The Newtster gives some love to the Donald
How many ex-wives do each of us have?
“If my choice was Barack Obama or Donald Trump, I would have zero hesitation saying that Donald Trump is dramatically less dangerous to America’s future than Barack Obama, and I’d be happy to campaign for him.”
Maybe they could be running mates.
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Paul
April 21st, 2011
5:46 pm
getalife
Yeah, for about one minute….
SoCom
Lost it on that one.
Thanks.
JKL2
April 21st, 2011
5:49 pm
Paul- “Taking Chance” Found it tough to watch
I found it tough to watch but probably for completely different reasons. Didn’t help I was stuck at a PAX terminal and got to see it several times.
Try watching this one http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034320/
Same story line except easier on the eyes. Not sure which one has worse acting.
pogo
April 21st, 2011
5:50 pm
Joe, did I question your patriotism? I don’t know you and you don’t know me. But it looks as if you have some demons you really need to deal with, as we all do. There is no shame in it. Every American has every right to state their case and on the other hand, every American has the right to disagree with that case. If and when that right goes away, we are all screwed and we become nothing more than the sheep that are the people of China, North Korea or Venezuela. The only reason America defeated Hitler and Japan and their dreams of world conquest in goals in WWII is because our nation brought itself together in a time of extreme crisis. If another situation ever arises on the level of that one, I am not at all sure our counry would react in the same manner. If Obama and Bush have done nothing, they have divided this country into two halves which are not at all helpful to any of us. “A house divided, falls”, if you will. And make no mistake, this country is divided and it will fall unless something changes and China will own us without ever firing a bullet. All they have to do is own us through our relentless spending habits and our lack of any industrial base.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
5:51 pm
Paul — “I’m guessing from Joe Mama’s post that the Republican Party lost a lot like him. And those left in the Party who are taking it down its current path are more than happy to write them off as RINO, impure, liberals at heart.”
They are. They forgot Saint Ronald’s dictum that Thou Shalt Not Speak Ill of Another Republican. They also forgot that he said that they should even stick with people who are on their side only 80% of the time.
In a lot of cases, they ran us off because we didn’t fit some demographic of theirs. For example, they have a problem with folks in high-visibility positions who are known to be or are identifiably not GOP kosher. In my case, they don’t like me because I’m an atheist. I’m still active on Free Republic, but whenever Jim Rob figures out that we’re back, he has a pogrom and kicks us all off. So most of us violate his TOS and cultivate multiple accounts so that we can go back on and find each other again.
They also don’t like non-christians and gays. Shrug. I don’t care if someone’s a theist; that’s their business. And as far as being gay goes — it’s no one’s business but me and my wife what we do in the bedroom, and I don’t care what a couple of gay guys do in theirs. It’s not my relationship, so it’s none of my business.
They’ve also changed in recent years to value orthodoxy over fact. They now ignore or dismiss facts that run counter to their narrative — you’ve seen Lil’ do that all afternoon here.
In short, I just couldn’t continue to be part of that group. I do like some of their ideas, but in the end, a lot of those ideas have morphed into the same mean-spiritedness that has characterized their behavior in recent years.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 21st, 2011
5:52 pm
JKL2
Could it be possible then that the shortage of flag draped coffins on tv could be because of family requests for privacy?
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
5:55 pm
Dave — “Joe Mama, John Kerry was, is and always will be a useless sack of $hit when it comes to being an elected official.”
That may very well be, but the GOP seems to have found a way to diss Democratic veterans while forgiving the shortcomings and failings of Republican veterans.
I refer you to the 2002 slagging of Max Cleland. I don’t care if Saxby Chambliss were to save both me and my wife from a burning building — I will never shake hands with that man.
Show me a Democratic veteran to whom the GOP has shown respect and deference on military matters. In fact, accept my challenge and show me three.
I don’t think you can.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
5:58 pm
pogo — “Joe, did I question your patriotism?”
Yes. You repeated that crap about me having a messiah, implying that I put politics over country. As a disabled veteran, I find that VERY offensive.
“I don’t know you and you don’t know me. But it looks as if you have some demons you really need to deal with, as we all do.”
I dealt with them by leaving the GOP.
“There is no shame in it. Every American has every right to state their case and on the other hand, every American has the right to disagree with that case.”
Disagree then, and leave the disrespectful BS about a messiah out of it.
If you have issues with my positions and politics, then be a MAN about it and talk to me about them like a man.
Paul
April 21st, 2011
6:00 pm
Joe Mama
Ideology and social values above all.
‘course… they didn’t realize that they were saying ‘above all’ awhile they were upside down.
Fresh sheets upstairs -
Dave R.
April 21st, 2011
6:02 pm
“Show me a Democratic veteran to whom the GOP has shown respect and deference on military matters. In fact, accept my challenge and show me three.”
I’d have a hard time coming up with three Democrat veterans . . .
However, I didn’t see them piling on Joe Sestak or Jim Webb regarding their military service.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
6:08 pm
Dave — “I’d have a hard time coming up with three Democrat veterans . . . ”
There are plenty; you named two particularly notable ones. Charles Rangel was an Army NCO during Korea. There are a handful of young Democrats who are Iraq/Afghanistan veterans. Army MAJ Tammy Duckworth, who lost her legs in Iraq, lost her election bid, but IIRC she’s been appointed to a senior position in the VA.
When he was still serving in the Senate, I liked GOP Senator Chuck Hagel (Army, Vietnam) very much and hoped to see President Obama consider him for a Cabinet position, or perhaps a service secretary job like Sec Army.
“However, I didn’t see them piling on Joe Sestak or Jim Webb regarding their military service.”
Hard to do, considering Joe Sestak’s rank (Vice Admiral) and his recent service, and considering that US Marine Jim Webb was Reagan’s Secretary of the Navy.
JKL2
April 21st, 2011
6:09 pm
SoCo- Could it be possible then that the shortage of flag draped coffins on tv could be because of family requests for privacy?
Cindy Sheehan is rolling over in her grave. I haven’t seen her camped out at Tony Rezco’s protesting yet. I’m sure he wouldn’t mind since he’s in jail. (I’m sure he’s pissed he didn’t get a sweethaert deal from Eric Holder like the Black Panther guy)
Gm
April 21st, 2011
6:17 pm
Thanks Trump, low trash birthers you have assured Obama another 2012 term, you have alienated every minority in the USA they will come out in droves to vote for him, you bigots have shown America can not move forward untill scum like you guys are out the way.
JKL2
April 21st, 2011
6:21 pm
Joe Mama- Charlie Rangle is a notable? Is he in jail yet? I understand he is so senile he doesn’t what’s going on, but that doesn’t give you an excuse. I will say he is a perfect example of the obama/democratic mold (crook).
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
6:32 pm
JKL — “Charlie Rangle is a notable?”
You knew who he was, didn’t you?
He’s an example of a veteran who’s also a Democrat, and who’s generally fairly well-known to the public.
“Is he in jail yet?”
No, and why would he be? House ethics charges do not, so far as I am aware, even result in prison time. Perhaps you are uninformed as to the nature of the charges against him and how they were resolved.
“I understand he is so senile he doesn’t what’s going on”
He’s not senile at all.
“but that doesn’t give you an excuse.”
Excuse for what? What do you think I need an excuse for?
“I will say he is a perfect example of the obama/democratic mold (crook).”
Shrug. Did you have any substantive point to make, or are you just jaggin’ off all over the thread? Fap fap fap fap fap fap aaaaaaahhhhhh.
@@
April 21st, 2011
6:40 pm
I call BS of Joe Mama!!!
For example, they have a problem with folks in high-visibility positions who are known to be or are identifiably not GOP kosher. In my case, they don’t like me because I’m an atheist.
They also don’t like non-christians and gays. Shrug. I don’t care if someone’s a theist; that’s their business.
Who’s this “they” of which you speak.
I couldn’t care less how you choose to live your life. The fact that you would leave the party because a former vet turned politician has been criticized is baloney. Superficial window dressing for public consumption, and I’m not buying it.
@@
April 21st, 2011
6:42 pm
Another thing, Joe Mama.
If you’ve opted for the Dems, just know you’ve hooked up with a party that was all too quick to accuse Marines in Haditha of murder when the evidence proved otherwise.
JKL2
April 21st, 2011
6:49 pm
Joe Mama- Did you have any substantive point to make, or are you just jaggin’ off all over the thread?
Actually kind of funny since I got a vasectomy today. When I give an example of honorable people I usually don’t go with crooks. Ted Kaczynski is famous too, but I don’t think Harvard has him at the top of their list for “distinguished alumni”.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
6:50 pm
@@ — “I call BS of Joe Mama!!!”
And I say go get stuffed. You accused me of bigotry last evening, and I’m still waiting for you to explain why, coward.
“Who’s this “they” of which you speak.”
Local GOP leadership. And in many cases, individual members of the GOP.
“I couldn’t care less how you choose to live your life.”
Maybe *you* don’t, but a lot of conservatives and members of the GOP *do.* If you’re an announced atheist or openly gay, or if you have any other characteristic they don’t like, forget about being in any kind of key position in the party. Oh, they’re happy to take your money, your volunteer time and your vote, but don’t expect to move up in the party hierarchy and don’t expect anyone to listen to any of your issues. It’s sit down and shut up time in that case.
“The fact that you would leave the party because a former vet turned politician has been criticized is baloney.”
More stupid misleading crap from you.
1) I didn’t say what you claimed I did (I’m beginning to see that misrepresenting others’ comments is par for the course with you).
2) Whether you think it’s baloney or not is irrelevant, just like the opinion of the nitwit who questioned my veteran status is irrelevant.
“Superficial window dressing for public consumption, and I’m not buying it.”
You don’t have to buy a thing. It is what it is, whether you like it or not and whether you believe it or not.
Your party lost me after over 20 years, and that’s a fact.
And your ideological compatriots are not doing a very good job of winning me — or people like me — back.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
6:52 pm
@@ — “If you’ve opted for the Dems, just know you’ve hooked up with a party that was all too quick to accuse Marines in Haditha of murder when the evidence proved otherwise.”
If you’ve opted for the GOP, just know that you’ve hooked up with a party that was all to quick to give no-bid contracts to Halliburton — who did shoddy electrical work that got several Marines killed in the shower in Iraq. Any liability for Halliburton? Of course not.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
6:53 pm
JKL — “Actually kind of funny since I got a vasectomy today.”
LOL! Good on ya!
“When I give an example of honorable people I usually don’t go with crooks.”
I was not asked for — nor did I purport to be giving — any examples of “honorable people.” Please go back and reread.
I believe that you may have been mistaking the voice in your head for what I actually wrote.
JKL2
April 21st, 2011
7:10 pm
Joe Mama- you’ve hooked up with a party that was all to quick to give no-bid contracts to Halliburton — who did shoddy electrical work that got several Marines killed in the shower in Iraq. Any liability for Halliburton? Of course not.
Plenty of fraud, waste, and abuse on the battlefield. If it wasn’t for Dick Cheney being in the WH, Halliburton wouldn’t even be an issue. The way I remember it, one was killed and the family got a big paycheck out of it.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
7:21 pm
“The way I remember it, one was killed and the family got a big paycheck out of it.”
Actually, at least 12 were killed:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/28/soldier.electrocutions/index.html
@@
April 21st, 2011
9:19 pm
Joe Mama:
And I say go get stuffed. You accused me of bigotry last evening, and I’m still waiting for you to explain why, coward.
I did! Not my fault you didn’t check back in.
More stupid misleading crap from you.
1) I didn’t say what you claimed I did (I’m beginning to see that misrepresenting others’ comments is par for the course with you).
Oh really? I guess all the drama caused a lapse in memory.
The GOP is breaking apart, and has been for several years. The first hint was when y’all slagged on a war veteran named Kerry in the 2004 election. A lot of politically moderate veterans — and I mean A LOT of them — became very disillusioned with the GOP when y’all did that. Some of us left then; I did.
Curtain call!
And the crowd went Oooooooooooooo.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
9:44 pm
@@ — “I did! Not my fault you didn’t check back in.”
You didn’t check in *today,* and that’s not *my* fault. You certainly do seem obsessed with the posting behavior of others.
More stupid misleading crap from you.
“Oh really? I guess all the drama caused a lapse in memory.”
Thanks for the admission.
“Curtain call! And the crowd went Oooooooooooooo.”
Right. Because you’re *wrong.* (laughing, pointing)
You clearly have a problem with understanding what others write. You make linkages and leap to conclusions that are not supported, and I’m beginning to see that that’s a habit with you.
You said: “The fact that you would leave the party BECAUSE A FORMER VET TURNED POLITICIAN HAS BEEN CRITICIZED is baloney. Superficial window dressing for public consumption, and I’m not buying it.”
I said that I left *then,* true. But not *because* of that, @@. You even posted where I said I left *then,* but there’s absolutely nowhere in that post or any other that I say that that’s WHY I left.
(laughing)
Go back and reread my posts on this topic. Then come back and ask me some questions. But stop leaping to conclusions, because you’re really bad at it.
@@
April 21st, 2011
10:04 pm
Joe Mama:
A drowning man will grasp at anything to survive.
A lot of politically moderate veterans — and I mean A LOT of them — became very disillusioned with the GOP when y’all did that. Some of us left then; I did.
At the very least, the personal attacks on Kerry was the defining moment, the final act, the last straw.
You can hold onto that straw, but it won’t save you from drowning.
Keep your day job ’cause acting ain’t your forte.
@@
April 21st, 2011
10:04 pm
Joe:
You can stuff your smileys too.
@@
April 21st, 2011
10:05 pm
…tough guy!
schnirt
Joe Mama
April 25th, 2011
4:25 pm
@@ — “Joe Mama: A drowning man will grasp at anything to survive.”
Show me where I said *because of.* :p
“At the very least, the personal attacks on Kerry was the defining moment, the final act, the last straw.”
Show me where I said *because of.* :p
“You can hold onto that straw, but it won’t save you from drowning.”
Show me where I said *because of.* :p
“Keep your day job ’cause acting ain’t your forte.”
Keep *yours,* because writing isn’t *your* forte. (pointing, laughing)
“You can stuff your smileys too.”
Aw, did @@ get its widdle feelings hurt? (pointing, laughing)
“…tough guy!”
Speaking of which, tell me about *your* military service. (pointing, laughing)
Once again, you clearly have a problem with understanding what others write. You make linkages and leap to conclusions that are not supported, and I’m beginning to see that that’s a habit with you.
I said that I left *then,* true. But not *because* of that, @@. You even posted where I said I left *then,* but there’s absolutely nowhere in that post or any other that I say that that’s WHY I left.
(laughing)
Go back and reread my posts on this topic. Then come back and ask me some questions. But stop leaping to conclusions, because you’re really bad at it.
I wrote the truth, and you don’t like it. That’s just too bad for you.