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Maybe they could be running mates.
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Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:46 pm
Joe, if the labor force is shrinking and job creation is increasing, the participation rate would be going UP, not down, as it is under your Idiot Messiah!
stands for decibels
April 21st, 2011
3:46 pm
My bad, Scott-it was the 1999 dawg who was going on and on about how Trinity UCC and Rev. Wright weren’t Christian, not you.
That said, I will offer this bit of enlightenment, since you seem to think that the church was some kind of hate factory–where “horrible things” (your words) were said.
It’s been awhile since I had a look at a transcript of the infamous Rev. Wright sermon.
It’s rough, scalding hot rhetoric. It’s also fair to say that Wright is expressing precisely the same sentiments that Thomas Jefferson rather famously offered when he wrote “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.”
http://www.sluggy.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=315691&sid=4b3e97ace4ee8cee02bd6850e52f50b7
By the way, if you read beyond the oft-quoted “G.D. America” bit, you’ll find that Wright acknowledges the offensiveness of the phrase in that very same sermon, and actually apologized to the congregants for saying it.
It’s tough, thought-provoking stuff. I wouldn’t call it horrible. YMMV.
Paul
April 21st, 2011
3:46 pm
Scott
I see we’ve diverged. Looking back, you spoke generally of the “Left.”
I was speaking of this blog. Wasn’t questioning your character, just your knowledge of what occurred here.
Sure, the national media listed the deaths. They still do. It wasn’t in a negative or denigrating sense.
But on this blog I do remember those opposed to the Iraq war listing those deaths to highlight the price paid for what was seen as an unjust or mistaken war. I do not recall the same happening regarding Afghanistan on this blog.
@@
My earlier cite to you – and…. as a result of the exchanges I’ve had on this blog, I have changed my perspective on a number of those issues. That’s one of the things (changing one’s mind) I meant when I wondered why some of my posts seem to affect you so.
Lil Barry
I had a few replies for you. The only one I think might make a dent of an impression on you is “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do (say).”
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:48 pm
Lil — “Sorry Joe, I give you credit for working as hard as you can to minimize the damage, but there just ain’t no getting around that pesky ol’ unemployment rate!”
I didn’t think you’d read them, Lil. Ideologues and con men never want to have the evidence of their mendacity shown to them.
Shrug. We will just continue as we have, then, with you posting misleading and incomplete information and me being right behind you, posting actual facts and context to enlighten those you would otherwise be confusing.
“Unemployment: Higher under Obozo.”
Job losses — Worst in a CENTURY under President Bush.
LimoManinGA
April 21st, 2011
3:48 pm
This country (Obama) has spent more money while in office than this country has in 200 years combined. This was an absolute win by the black race getting out and voting. Some being driven to the polls. This has been in the works for quite some time. Doesn’t the name say it all Barack Hussein Obama II. The name sounds American huh? You folks that voted for Barack the first time better think twice on the second term! He agrees with everything every American disapproves of…Illegals vs. American workers, require you to have healthcare, not pay our troops during Govt. shutdown..OUR COUNTRY IS IN A CRISIS and it’s getting deeper and deeper.
St Simons - we're on Island time
April 21st, 2011
3:49 pm
Nun of the Above – wouldn’t that be the first Republic catholic woman to run
rimshot- we’re here all week. try the shrimp
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:50 pm
“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.”
——-
Yeah, that does sound a lot like Jeremiah Wright.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:51 pm
Lil — “Joe, if the labor force is shrinking and job creation is increasing, the participation rate would be going UP, not down,”
Math clearly was not your strong suit in school. That would only be true with a lengthy, extended period of 150K/month job creation. Or else it would have to be MUCH larger than 150K/month to turn that graph around so quickly.
You clearly don’t understand how that graph is calculated.
“as it is under your Idiot Messiah!”
I have no messiah, idiot or otherwise.
stands for decibels
April 21st, 2011
3:51 pm
And pardon me for flogging this dead horse, but Scott, given that it’s been established that Obama wasn’t actually in Chicago at the time that Rev. Wright delivered his infamous sermon, can you tell me some of the “horrible things” he heard when he did attend?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 21st, 2011
3:52 pm
Poison, you lost on DADT. Even the military agrees it can be implemented.
But let’s go with a simple fact. DADT did not keep gay men out of the military. The policy said effectively “If you’re gay, don’t tell us.” It was in place for years. All those men showerintogetherer during those years, some of them were gay. The horror! The horror!
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:53 pm
LimoMan — “The name sounds American huh?”
Oh, you don’t like ‘unamerican’ names?
How about Giornalista? How about Kolodziej? I served with those guys in the Army, and they were 100% American. I even knew a guy named Klinger in the Army, and no, he didn’t wear a dress.
If you don’t like ‘unamerican’ names, then that’s really just too bad for you.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:53 pm
Job losses — Worst in a CENTURY under President Bush.
——–
…no one much cared though, as 95% of the workforce was employed.
Bush: better unemployment numbers than Obozo
mm
April 21st, 2011
3:53 pm
Enter your comments here
Paul
April 21st, 2011
3:53 pm
@@
No thanks necessary. But your “all or nothing” remark gives me a better idea where you’re coming from.
“I am so over the class warfare being used as a political weapon that divides this nation. It doesn’t fly with me anymore…used to during my MORE liberal days. I’ve outgrown it.”
You see class warfare. I see basic issues of justice. You forget, I live in an affluent area. Median income north of six figures. I am not saying anything about my situation – just that I live in the midst of people who would be affected by the change in policies we write about. And a good number of them recognize the inequities in the system but go with the attitude of “well, if that’s all the tax I have to pay, that’s the way it is.”
Jonas
April 21st, 2011
3:54 pm
“It’s tough, thought-provoking stuff. I wouldn’t call it horrible”
I would say it is about the same as the various noises my jack russell makes when he wants to chase a rabbit. The left and right drama is truly sickening.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 21st, 2011
3:54 pm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Chicken fried ilk……….
Newtster
If that’s Trump’s plane, I’m guessing it kinda speaks to his business when he’s flying in a plane that hasn’t been in production since August 1984.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/727family/index.html
Most businessmen of his alleged calibre usually fly in something like this:
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/bbj/index.html
which is a modified 737, which is still in production as the 737-900 and 900ER series. If the man can’t update his bird, what can he do for his country?
mm
April 21st, 2011
3:54 pm
Hey Barry Bailout.
You need to change your name. The bailouts were passed under Bush.
@@
April 21st, 2011
3:55 pm
Paul:
The problem I’m having with you is not because of any disagreements we may have. I’ve neither asked or expected anyone to agree with me, be they R, L, or somewhere in between.
I don’t need it, want it, or expect them to admit it if they do.
Unlike you, I don’t tell people how to think or behave when entering a debate. You’ve taken on this Nanny-type persona, which leads me to believe………????
To someone like me, who enjoys a good fight, it’s most unbecoming.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:56 pm
Lil — “Joe, if the labor force is shrinking and job creation is increasing, the participation rate would be going UP, not down,”
Math clearly was not your strong suit in school.
———–
And with that, I rest my case!
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
April 21st, 2011
3:57 pm
Jay:
1) How much do you make a year?.
2) How much does Trump make a year?
Now, after you answer that, how much more do you think he has paid in taxes to support this country? I wouldn’t be so flippant.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:58 pm
You need to change your name. The bailouts were passed under Bush.
———
The one that worked was, agreed.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:59 pm
Lil — “…no one much cared though, as 95% of the workforce was employed.
Lie. U3 does not equal percentage of workforce. I already explained that to you. U3 leaves out many groups of people who would otherwise cause the number to go up. That’s why economists don’t rely on it. Politicians love it, though, because it’s a simple figure and because simple people will latch onto it.
“Bush: better unemployment numbers than Obozo”
Bush: Hey, It Wasn’t QUITE As Bad As The Great Depression
Left wing management
April 21st, 2011
3:59 pm
mm: “You need to change your name. The bailouts were passed under Bush.”
He knows it. And yet his entire universe is one giant effort to evade that truth. If he were forced to accept one detail that differs, the entire structure would come crashing down.
Tom
April 21st, 2011
4:00 pm
Got a question for all you liberal lefties on this blog, do any of you pay taxes or all of you in that 50% of citizens who do not pay anything. ?? I guess that people like Donald Trump pay his share and many of your kind!!!
getalife
April 21st, 2011
4:00 pm
The circus is back in town.
Yell at them again cons.
getalife
April 21st, 2011
4:01 pm
So, you should be lil w bailout.
Left wing management
April 21st, 2011
4:02 pm
mm, that is to say, his entire universe is predicated on a frantic attempt to avoid facing the fact, one long series of vain attempts to plug in all the little holes that keep opening up. Must be an exhausting existence.
LimoManinGA
April 21st, 2011
4:02 pm
I neither endorse Trump or Obama. However, Obama did say that his father had served in World War II and received services that he needed as a veteran when he returned home. President Barack Obama’s biological father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was born in Kenya on 04 April 1936. When World War II started on 01 September 1939, President Obama’s father was little more than 3 years old. THIS IS WHILE HE WAS CAMPAIGNING!
Scott
April 21st, 2011
4:02 pm
Paul “Sure, the national media listed the deaths. They still do. It wasn’t in a negative or denigrating sense.”
I disagree wholeheartedly. back then, you heard about deaths constantly. Now, you do not hear a peep. I just do not think it would have stopped if a Rep was in the White House right now. The media would still be following Cindy Sheehan and they would still be making an effort to report every single death regardless of where it occurred. We would still hear how this month faired in comparison to others unless of course if there was an actual improvement. Then, it would go ignored.
I know you will not agree and frankly I can careless. As the old saying goes “perception is reality.” My perception over there was that the libs in Congress and the media were doing everything it could to undermine us. They didn’t care about us one bit….only looked for ratings and how to use deaths as a way to disparage the Bush presidency. That perception is shared by many veterans. It is further supported how the attention suddenly disappeared when Obama took over and it became his wars. Wars that he said he would end. One war that he actually escalated. Another war that he decided we would play a role in starting.
stands for decibels
April 21st, 2011
4:02 pm
how much more do you think he has paid in taxes to support this country? I wouldn’t be so flippant.
really?
the “if you’re so smart why weren’t YOU staked to a hundred-plus mil by your slumload daddy” argument?
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
4:03 pm
Tom — “Got a question for all you liberal lefties on this blog, do any of you pay taxes or all of you in that 50% of citizens who do not pay anything. ?? I guess that people like Donald Trump pay his share and many of your kind!!!”
I pay taxes. Do you?
For all you know, I might be paying for YOU.
Paul
April 21st, 2011
4:03 pm
@@
If by “Nanny personna” you mean “points out the inaccuracies upon which some base their opinions or offers another viewpoint that can be seen from looking at the same evidence” or “questions others for the basis of what they assert”
Then I plead ‘guilty.’
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 21st, 2011
4:03 pm
Where in the US Constitution does it say “The more you pay in taxes the more you get in representation”? We all realize that the money buys representation in all levels of government but I did not realize that taxes counted in there too.
Of course, given his bankruptcies and business losses and tax planning, who says Trump has paid any federal income tax?
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
4:04 pm
There were several bailouts, one of which worked. That one was passed and implemented under our President Bush. Every other bailout and stimulus failed.
stands for decibels
April 21st, 2011
4:04 pm
who says Trump has paid any federal income tax?
This much I know–Trump sure as hell doesn’t want to have to cough up that information.
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
4:06 pm
I think Republicans are just misunderstood. They need to get out there and have town hall meetings where they can explain to the voters just what they mean when they say they support replacing Medicare for those on the program with vouchers so they can buy their own private insurance and what they mean when they say that they are going to cut trillions from social programs and give more tax cuts to the wealthiest while also continuing to raise the national debt. I think they really need to do that.
Paul
April 21st, 2011
4:07 pm
@@
“To someone like me, who enjoys a good fight, it’s most unbecoming.”
That’s probably the key difference. You like to fight, I like to understand and gain new information.
Years ago, was having a spirited debate (more of an argument, really). Suddenly, I heard new information that completely changed my viewpoint. I said “you are correct. I didn’t know that before.”
The other person looked at me and then resumed the argument.
That floored me. Couldn’t understand the attitude, arguing like that.
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:09 pm
sfd 4:04 seconds
getalife
April 21st, 2011
4:10 pm
It is like the President is running unopposed.
They don’t walk to get booed like ryan.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
4:10 pm
Scott’s 100% right on the money. The Dems and the media used our troops’ casualty numbers to bash Bush. Once Obama took responsibility for prosecuting those wars, suddenly the casualties became much less interesting.
The bulk of the Democrat party and the media share former president Clinton’s attitude toward the military–sadly, a loathing for it.
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:11 pm
You mean like Obama got so uncomfortable when he got his duet for when the army put someone who committed Treason into the brig?
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 21st, 2011
4:12 pm
back then, you heard about deaths constantly. Now, you do not hear a peep.
You must not watch This Week on ABC then. Every Sunday, they pay tribute to soldiers who’s names have been released from the previous week. If you don’t want to see it mentioned, you won’t find it. Just because “you” don’t find it, doesn’t mean that nothing is being said and/or done. I quit watching that segment of This Week because I don’t want to recognize a service member’s name that I’ve seen coming through the airport on their R&R break. I’d rather remember that, “I’m back on US soil” look that I see from them everyday.
md
April 21st, 2011
4:12 pm
“You see class warfare. I see basic issues of justice.”
Basic issues of justice are not restricted to monetary variables alone…………..one must consider all the variables in the equation to arrive at some sense of justice……….to do so requires that one look at each individual and how they got to where they are…………
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:12 pm
1/2 of America is screaming, like Mel Gibson at the end of Braveheart: Freedom!
The other 1/2 just apparently don’t give a damn.
Paul
April 21st, 2011
4:13 pm
Scott
Excuse me. “Most” of the casualty counts in the national media weren’t in a negative sense. News readers just read the numbers.
I was one of those who questioned why the Afg body counts ended.
See how much you assumed?
Your end point’s been discussed here, too. Cons assert Candidate Obama said he would end the Afg war. Speeches have been linked to where he said just the opposite. His actions since becoming President bear that out (his Afg expansion has been discussed here, too, with many cons and libs opposed on one hand, many cons and libs supporting, on the other).
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 21st, 2011
4:13 pm
jm..got a conviction to prove treason?
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:14 pm
Keep 4:13 – not yet….
pogo
April 21st, 2011
4:14 pm
Methinks ole Joe certainly does have a messiah and he/she knows it. Man-up and say you are an Obama Joe!
From Wilkipedia:
Looking at the annual average unemployment rates for each of the eight years of Bush’s presidency, the average of all eight figures, and thus of his entire presidency, is 5.26%, with a low of 4.6% for the years of 2006 and 2007, and a high of 6.0% for 2003.[64]
Hummm Joe. You forte must not be math.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 21st, 2011
4:15 pm
lbb
Scott’s 100% wrong. Isn’t ABC one of those evil, liberal bastions of media? Why would they do this http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/memoriam-us-service-members/story?id=6377296 if they were not paying tribute to our service members?
JKL2
April 21st, 2011
4:15 pm
Jay- Thanks again for your faux interest in potential Republican candidates. I am holding my breath waiting for your endorsement.
Truth
April 21st, 2011
4:15 pm
Anything’s better than Obama. Obama = Jimmy Carter !!!!!!
Just like Jimmy, we have unrest in the Middle East, high energy prices and high unemployment. Hang on because we will soon have high inflation and interest rates just like Jimmy. The only good news is thing got a lot better after the American public had a taste of Jimmy Carter. Lets hope the American public wakes up and fires Mr. Obama.
@@
April 21st, 2011
4:15 pm
Paul:
And if I had to guess, our assets may exceed that six figures you claim. We didn’t come by it without sacrifice and hard work. Why the hell do you think it’s ME who’s out re-glazing the windows on the house.
We’re hoping to leave our daughter something better…something we’ve strived for…not the meager scraps that government can offer her.
Left wing management
April 21st, 2011
4:16 pm
The bulk of the Democrat party and the media share former president Clinton’s attitude toward the military–sadly, a loathing for it.
That’s about the stupidest thing I’ve heard claimed on here in weeks.
The same media that drummed up hysteria and puffed up the case for the invasion of Iraq? Anti-military?
You don’t even believe the crap you post here, do you ?
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
4:17 pm
Lil — “There were several bailouts, one of which worked. That one was passed and implemented under our President Bush. Every other bailout and stimulus failed.”
LOL
If it worked, then why’d President Bush leave his successor with the worst recession, the worst economy and the worst job creation figures since the Great Depression?
Folks, we’re in the presence of greatness — we have Nitwitticus of Borg posting for us right here! (laughing)
md
April 21st, 2011
4:17 pm
“U3 leaves out many groups of people who would otherwise cause the number to go up”
Yes, but those groups are consistently left out year over year……….add them in and the average doesn’t really change.
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
4:17 pm
Many, or most, Republicans appear to need a leader that they can worship and so they wrongly assume that everyone else shares their inadequacies.
getalife
April 21st, 2011
4:18 pm
Liberal’s or pros if you will ,did not want to cut the troop’s pay and end Medicare.
Just factin.
Paul
April 21st, 2011
4:19 pm
Scott
Thinking about it, I should not have written “cons assert Candidate Obama said he would end the Afg war.” Some libs, did, too. They both saw and heard what they wanted to see and hear.
Isn’t it nice they could be in agreement on something? Even if it was inaccurate?
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
4:20 pm
Lil — “And with that, I rest my case!”
It’s not surprising, given that you clearly don’t understand statistics. (laughing)
Now I know why you don’t want to look at the job creation numbers.
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:20 pm
SoCo – I really don’t care for Amanpour. At all. Tapper’s not bad, Stephanopolous was good. Amanpour pretty much blows….
St Simons - we're on Island time
April 21st, 2011
4:22 pm
I like this blog. Spirited debate, no racism. But now to the beach.
Come on down, grab a margaritta, mellow out dudes. Think it through and you’ll never vote Republic again. A hint to my former fellow Atlantans when you come down here – do like us, wait til late afternoon to hit the beach, its not as hot, sunburn’s not as bad. And remember, the good of All of Us outweighs the good of a few, You know its true. Listen, Mother Ocean will tell you. You’re lying to yourselves, Republican friends. I did it for years.
AmVet
April 21st, 2011
4:22 pm
Truth,
Who would you rate as the better president – James Earl Carter or George Walker Bush?
Paul
April 21st, 2011
4:22 pm
@@
Wasn’t assets. Was yearly income.
And I do my own windows, too. Bought a squeegee and scrubber at Home Depot. Another reason I bought one of the few one-stories in our area. Easier maintenance.
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:23 pm
St. Simons – hate to warn you, the racism issue does crop up pretty often.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 21st, 2011
4:24 pm
jm
Haven’t seen too many with Amanpour myself. However, that one show pretty much disproves Scott’s assertion that “Now, you do not hear a peep.” I kinda liked Step’s hosting style myself.
md
April 21st, 2011
4:25 pm
“And remember, the good of All of Us outweighs the good of a few, You know its true.”
Unfortunately, there is a large swath of selfish folks that believe otherwise………and the sad part is, many here believe they are restricted to one “side”.
Paul
April 21st, 2011
4:25 pm
SoCom
Hope Scott’s still here to see your 9:15.
I’m with you on those segments, too, for reasons I won’t go into here -
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
4:25 pm
“I really don’t care for Amanpour. At all.”
Paul! Did you see that? The humanity!!!
Daryl-Atlanta
April 21st, 2011
4:25 pm
Donald Trump, like Ross Perot would never be happy as president. First of all, neither would want to move into a smaller house.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 21st, 2011
4:26 pm
jm…if there is no conviction, the man is presumed innocent and entitled to the protections of the US Constitution and decency in his confinement awaiting trial. If he has not been treated so, then those who abused him should be charged and tried. Ultimately the President is responsible and it appears that it has come to the awareness of some at the White House as the individual has been transferred to the custody of others and not left with alleged abusers– a change that many hoped for. It is a disgrace to this country and to many members of our military that anyone would celebrate the abuse of prisoners. It is unfortunate for the President that he has been embarrassed by those allegations by those trusted to properly confine the prisoner. It is a testimony to the power of public pressure that the change has been made. Those who cheer the alleged abuse are shameful.
JKL2
April 21st, 2011
4:26 pm
SoCo-
You remind me of NPR arguing Armed Forced Radio wasn’t balanced because they played an hour of Rush Limbaugh. Somehow playing 5 hours of conservative radio a week over-shadowing the 100+ hours of liberal drivel and needed to be changed.
Just because ABC does one positive story doesn’t give them a pass for their constant backstabbing of our Armed Services.
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:27 pm
SoCo 4:24 – me too. Amanpour’s overly focused on international issues. The whole reason “the sundays” are engaging (for me) is because of the focus on national and local politics….
Bad choice on Amanpour in my book. She’s going to be the next Katie Couric. She belongs and should stay in international reporting.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
4:28 pm
Pogo — “Methinks ole Joe certainly does have a messiah and he/she knows it.”
I’m an atheist. Atheists have no messiahs.
“Man-up and say you are an Obama Joe!”
I voted for Obama, yes. And I also voted Republican for over 20 years before I switched. I know how the game is played on *both* sides, sir/ma’am.
Facts and truth *used* to matter to conservatives; if facts didn’t line up with what we wanted to do, we’d adjust and fine-tune our approach, and then start over. We didn’t shy away from facts that disagreed with us. Now it’s all about ideology and going LA LA LA LA when someone presents an inconvenient fact or a piece of evidence that disagrees with them.
It’s behavior like yours that drove me away from the GOP, Pogo. Don’t count on it bringing me back in. You’re not going to convince me to come back by going LA LA LA LA and pretending to understand something you don’t.
“From Wilkipedia:
Looking at the annual average unemployment rates for each of the eight years of Bush’s presidency, the average of all eight figures, and thus of his entire presidency, is 5.26%, with a low of 4.6% for the years of 2006 and 2007, and a high of 6.0% for 2003.[64]”
Irrelevant. Go back and find the link I posted a page or two back. And read the post associated with it. It explains exactly why this reliance on U3 (the figures you posted) are misleading at best.
“Hummm Joe. You forte must not be math.”
No, it’s statistics. (laughing)
I always know when I’m debating with someone who has no idea about employment, the economy and how such things are assessed, because they demonstrate this crazy reliance on the U3 figure.
If anyone’s got a messiah, it’d be you and Lil, the way you cling to that number.
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
4:28 pm
I get the distinct impression that Ryan’s yellow brick roadmap is not going over too well with the Republican constituency. They’re gonna have to come up with some better words and phrases from Luntz to paint those lips with before they can fool the people again cuz that dawg just ain’t huntin’.
Paul
April 21st, 2011
4:28 pm
Bosch
Yeah, there’ve been a few posts here today beyond the pale -
garep
April 21st, 2011
4:29 pm
of course an idiot will applaud another idiot
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:29 pm
Keep 4:26 – I, myself, am not a court of law or a reporter. I can make judgments. The guys guilty in my book. We’ll see what the military says. Frankly, if convicted, the guy should be hung.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
4:29 pm
“She’s going to be the next Katie Couric. ”
jm,
If you don’t stop, Paul and I will have to come hunt you down.
say what?
April 21st, 2011
4:29 pm
Can someone tell me honestly why this lil bb refers to President Obama as the idiot messiah? I mean, messiah?? A tad dramatic, aren’t we?
Joe Cool
April 21st, 2011
4:29 pm
The Donald=”The Joe the Plumber of Fifth Avenue.”
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:30 pm
Bosch / Paul – how on god’s green earth was that “beyond the pale”?
pogo
April 21st, 2011
4:30 pm
uh-oh, Obama is sending un-manned drones into Libya. Another war-front is opening. Where are the code-pinkers when you need them and where is the outrage from the left? Innocent civilians will be killed just as they always are when using these machines. Maybe, in Obama’s mind, he can sleep better at night knowing that it isn’t actual human beings on the ground doing the killing, just machines that are far-removed from the “fog of war”. And what about the casualties in Afghanistan? Where are the pictures of the American soldiers bodies coming home that the popular media wanted to put out there during the Bush years? What happened to all that?
By far progressive/liberals are the most hypocritical group of people on this earth. They stand for absolutely nothing but their ideology and even that constantly changes to meet their own political and personnal desires. Obama truly is their messiah because he morphs into whatever he wants to because he knows his base will always accept it. What does he have to lose? He could spit into their face and they would still vote for him. In fact, he as already done that (politically speaking) and they still fall to their knees in front of him. What does that make his base?
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:31 pm
“I will have to come hunt you down.”
[red button. pushed]
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
4:31 pm
“Innocent civilians will be killed just as they always are when using these machines.”
Oh look, how cute, the wingnuts are all concerned for civilians now.
md
April 21st, 2011
4:32 pm
“Those who cheer the alleged abuse are shameful.”
I guess we are back to the definition of abuse……..I can’t agree with the naked part, but have no problem with anything else. I think half our problem as a society is the we coddle those that choose to enter the penal system……………most live better than those that have done nothing to harm society……high time we turn off the AC, TV’s, basketball courts, etc and make them realize they made a bad choice.
Give them all the books they can read and nothing else…….
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
4:33 pm
jm,
Yes, they have, and don’t you be calling that goddess a whore!!!
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:33 pm
Bosch 4:31 – straw man alert!
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
4:33 pm
md — “Yes, but those groups are consistently left out year over year……….add them in and the average doesn’t really change.”
That’s quite true, and you get a gold star for paying attention, and another one for making a very good point.
The point you’re missing though is that U3 would be meaningful as an over-time comparison only if the size of the labor force AND the population did not change, or if they trended tightly together. When one trends much more quickly than the other (say, if we had another baby boom) or if one trends in the *opposite* direction (like we have now, where the labor force has been shrinking but population continues to grow), you lose the baseline values that make U3 worth using as a comparison at all. That’s why conservative commentators love to flog U3 — it doesn’t bear any resemblance to the actual employment situation now, but it’s a handy political cudgel. That’s why you see people like Lil’ relying on it and refusing to read anything that might disagree with it — because they are emotionally and politically invested in it being right. They’re in love with it, and they want to gay-marry it.
Very good point, md, and thank you very much for making it.
getalife
April 21st, 2011
4:34 pm
Saw luntz on fox spewing out talking points.
fox is gop propaganda all the time now.
They don’t pretend to do otherwise anymore.
JohnnyReb
April 21st, 2011
4:34 pm
What’s amazing is the Left actually thinks Republicans would nominate Trump.
jm
April 21st, 2011
4:35 pm
Bosch 4:33 – Amanpour. Goddess.
Is today the same day the Newt said he was against going into Libya, and yesterday he said he was in favor of going into Libya?
Cause that cr-p is just upside down and making my head spin. circuits frying….
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
4:35 pm
JKL — “over-shadowing the 100+ hours of liberal drivel and needed to be changed”
Please point to a specific piece of “liberal drivel” from NPR in the last 90 days. With link, please.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
4:35 pm
“What’s amazing is the Left actually thinks Republicans would nominate Trump.”
No Reb, we actually don’t. We know he’s just a fame whore seeking attention.
getalife
April 21st, 2011
4:35 pm
Do you know why Obama loves drones?
No US casualties.
pogo
April 21st, 2011
4:36 pm
Amvet, that is a tough one! Both of them sucked.
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
4:36 pm
Yes, they have, and don’t you be calling that goddess a whore!!!
She’s not a ho. She’s just hooking for love in all the wrong places.
Thulsa Doom
April 21st, 2011
4:36 pm
Lets see. Executive experience previous to coming into the white house for Barack Obama- zero. Unless you count being head of his college newspaper.
Donald Trump executive experience? No need to even go into it. The man’s business reputation speaks for itself whether you like him or hate him.
Obama’s executive wins- a health care bill that will eventually bankrupt the country, record shattering gas prices with further rises to come, record shattering unemployment, record shattering deficits with nearly 5 trillion in new debt added, and record future deficit projections by HIS OWN administration through 2020.
That’s what happens when you hire a pretty speech community organizer who has never had an executive job, doesn’t know the first thing about business, and is absolutely clueless to both economics and what a balance sheet is. Could we have really picked a worse leader than a know nothing community organizer? Nope. And the proof is right there for the all of us to see.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
4:37 pm
jm,
Hehehehehe. Got you back.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
4:37 pm
pogo — “uh-oh, Obama is sending un-manned drones into Libya. Another war-front is opening. Where are the code-pinkers when you need them and where is the outrage from the left?”
Under the War Powers Resolution, Presidents need not obtain Congressional authorization for military actions under 90 days in length. If you want outrage from me, come back in mid-June and talk to me.
I was US Army. Now I’m a disabled veteran. Which branch of the Armed Forces were YOU in?
pogo
April 21st, 2011
4:38 pm
Joe, my messiah ain’t no politician. That’s where you are going wrong.