The Newtster gives some love to the Donald
How many ex-wives do each of us have?
“If my choice was Barack Obama or Donald Trump, I would have zero hesitation saying that Donald Trump is dramatically less dangerous to America’s future than Barack Obama, and I’d be happy to campaign for him.”
Maybe they could be running mates.
Tell us what you think about the site
Customer Care »
Vacation stops, manage subscriptions and more
AJC Services
Sections
Other Editions
Visitor Agreement | Privacy Statement
© 2013 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
628 comments Add your comment
jm
April 21st, 2011
2:57 pm
I bet that was China snooping in Oak Ridge.
straitroad
April 21st, 2011
2:57 pm
The caption under the photo should read “how many people believe Obama is as American as apple pie”.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
2:57 pm
MiltonMan — “GM – lost what little respect (and what little intelligence) he had by stating that Obozo is a great president.”
Regardless of your opinion of the President, you don’t do your own self much credit by using cutesy, silly schoolyard names to refer to him. It’s quite possible to criticize the President without being a d**k about it, sir.
Perhaps if you’d grow up and stop using those silly, childish names, you might actually have a polite, adult conversation here. Maybe even with people with whom you disagree! Now wouldn’t THAT be something?
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
2:58 pm
Funny, but the previous president didn’t exactly cut the welfare rolls if you know what I mean? You guys are just totally obsessed with tagging obama for all your ills…get over it…
——-
Unemployment was so low that it wasn’t an issue.
Your Idiot Messiah is now handing out more cash to his parasite base than we’re taking in in taxes.
Idiot Messiah: Huge expensive fail.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
2:58 pm
” I work for the Kock brothers. ”
Well, if you work for them, you might want to spell their names right, bosses don’t like that.
@@
April 21st, 2011
2:59 pm
Meanwhile, an even larger group of conservatives is here celebrating the possibility of a President Donald.
Given the option of two more years of inexperience, I’ll take the unconventional Trump.
Gawd knows conventional politics hasn’t worked.
Mick
April 21st, 2011
3:00 pm
**Isn’t the world a better place without Sadaam**
Tell that to the american families of 5,000 killed and over 30,000 seriously wounded, lest we forget anywhere from 125k to one million innocent iraqi’s. Quite a high price in blood & treasure to get one man..
Peadawg
April 21st, 2011
3:00 pm
“The war in Iraq, a war of choice against a country that had not attacked us, was very different. The 5,000 Americans who died in that war gave the ultimate sacrifice for a cause that many of us still do not understand.”
Let’s pray that Libya doesn’t turn out like this….
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:01 pm
Bosch 2:58 – I was fully expecting a freudian slip accusation…
Koch
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:01 pm
**Isn’t the world a better place without Sadaam**
And aren’t y’all the ones griping and bitching about Libya?
Gregg Allchin
April 21st, 2011
3:01 pm
I would have to agree with Newt. No one could be worse then oboma.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:01 pm
jm,
I was gonna do that, but I figured it just too petty.
Kamchak
April 21st, 2011
3:02 pm
Donald’s clearly signaling his lunch order to the waiter. What do you think he’s having?
Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:02 pm
“Let’s pray that Libya doesn’t turn out like this….”
Well Peadawg, since we are pretty much already out of Libya, I don’t worry about that so much.
Mick
April 21st, 2011
3:02 pm
lbb
**Unemployment was so low that it wasn’t an issue.**
Who was the president that presided over the greatest market meltdown since the great depression? Hint: “this sucker…..
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
3:03 pm
Well, I guess congratulations are in order for jm on his success at landing a paying gig. Now you can join the ranks of us taxpayers and complain about, well, you know, the usual stuff, and really do it with meaning.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:04 pm
Lil — “Unemployment was so low that it wasn’t an issue.”
Wrong. Employment failed to keep up with population growth for 75% of President Bush’s time in office. That means that not only did we not put to work kids who were graduating from high school and college, but that we also weren’t putting back to work people who lost their jobs in the recession that straddled the Clinton and Bush administrations.
The reason the unemployment rate went down is that the labor force SHRANK. It shrank because people stayed unemployed so long that they either fell off the unemployment rolls (and were no longer counted in U3, which is the number you like to cite) or because they became disillusioned and gave up looking for a job (again, this would cause U3 to stop counting them). It’s not mathematically possible for population to increase *simultaneously* with a decreasing labor force.
I’ve offered to show those numbers several times, Lil. Would you have to have an actual look at them this time?
mystified
April 21st, 2011
3:04 pm
GM….hahahhaha… you oughta be on Letterman..Obama didn’t lead us in the oil spill. BP did. The only thing he did is close down the drills and kill jobs and oil production.
Joe Cool
April 21st, 2011
3:04 pm
“Bomb, propane tanks found at Colorado mall”
LITTLETON, Colo. – Investigators want to question a person of interest about a pipe bomb and two propane tanks that failed to detonate at a Colorado mall that were found after a security guard extinguished a fire. He is described as a white male with graying hair and a silver mustache.
Dayum you teabaggers….why do you hate America so much?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 21st, 2011
3:05 pm
eewww I don’t like spam.
That was a good pallete cleanser…thanks Kam
Peadawg
April 21st, 2011
3:05 pm
“Well Peadawg, since we are pretty much already out of Libya, I don’t worry about that so much.”
We shouldn’t had been there in the first place…
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:06 pm
Kamchak — “Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.”
I looked fer that, but the QT was plumb out of it. So I got me a microwave burrito instead.
Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:06 pm
Paul, So apparently my recollection is faulty but anybody else is okay to use. Unbelievable.
Anyways I made a slight correction to your statement though.
“I do like to look at issues if it fits my point of view. But I like to look at what was actual, not what was imagined or the result of faulty recollection unless that faulty recollection was on my part, in which case I will completely ignore it and deny its existence.” There you go.
As a former solder that fought in both Iraq and Afghanistan, I remember what clowns like you did. That is only recollection I need.
St Simons - we're on Island time
April 21st, 2011
3:06 pm
jm, tybee’s cool. What do ya mean slow down? 25 is too fast, dude. There’s a 25 sign under my palm tree in the front yard, and i’m tryin to get that changed to a more sane 15.
@@
April 21st, 2011
3:07 pm
Paul:
Left a comment for you downstairs. It has emoticons (5!!!!) because you’re special.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:08 pm
“We shouldn’t had been there in the first place…”
Oh good grief, then you’d just bitch about us not being there in the first place.
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:08 pm
In First U.S. Flight, ‘JetMan’ Will Fly Through the Grand Canyon
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-04/first-us-flight-jetman-will-fly-through-grand-canyon
frickin awesome
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
3:08 pm
I’ll have what the Donald’s having but can you hold the spam.
Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:08 pm
Bosch “And aren’t y’all the ones griping and bitching about Libya?”
We are griping about it because it appears that our very own President has no clue on what he is doing. He cannot even agree on a plan with his own cabinet. You took the short bus to school didn’t you?
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:09 pm
St. Simons. yeah 15 is pretty cool…
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
3:09 pm
Oh good grief, then you’d just bitch about us not being there in the first place.
Too late. They did that already.
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:10 pm
Trump’s whole “candidacy” is like the world’s longest spam email.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:10 pm
Wrong. Employment failed to keep up with population growth for 75% of President Bush’s time in office.
———–
Wrong. Unemployment was around 5% for most of the Bush administration, and your Idiot Messiah would deport his Aunt Zeitunie if that would make his own sorry record as strong as Bush’s.
St Simons - we're on Island time
April 21st, 2011
3:11 pm
Come to the island, mon, grab this margaritta, ride a wild horse. You’ll know who to vote for.
Peadawg
April 21st, 2011
3:11 pm
“Oh good grief, then you’d just bitch about us not being there in the first place.”
Nice crystal ball ya got there. You shouldn’t ASSume stuff, Boschy. Did I bitch when we didn’t involved in Egypt? Nope. Would I had bitched if we didn’t get involved in Libya? Nope again.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:12 pm
” it appears ”
Never forget that Scott.
“You took the short bus to school didn’t you?”
What’s that saying? When you lose an argument and have nothing left you start hurling insults? Or something like that.
TnGelding
April 21st, 2011
3:12 pm
Yeah, seizing the oil in the ME would be a sane and safe move. Newt is a disgrace. I pegged him correctly when he signed that $400k book deal before he even took the gavel as Speaker.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:14 pm
Peadawg,
“You shouldn’t ASSume stuff, Boschy.” That’s real cute coming from you.
Relax, it was a joke with you young Padawan.
TnGelding
April 21st, 2011
3:14 pm
Bush was a disaster, period. Why Congress rolled over for him is beyond me. 90% of the debt is due to his and Reagan’s idiocy.
Truth Squad
April 21st, 2011
3:14 pm
The Donald is a closet conservative Democrat(and Obama supporter),and always has been.
What he is doing now is to help highlight the parade of idiots running for the Republican nomination. Of course if it looks like he might be able to win, then he’ll go for it because his ego will not let him do the right thing. He figures if an idiot must win, why not him?
In the end, it really will not matter. Come some short time after election night 2012,I predict that The Donald will be yucking it up and sharing “terrorist fist bumps” with “the blacks” and the rest at a victory celebration at the White House.
Peadawg
April 21st, 2011
3:14 pm
“Relax, it was a joke with you young Padawan.”
That’s a good Boschy.
Left wing management
April 21st, 2011
3:15 pm
BMDPD: “Left, I also apologize for any shots I took at your intellectual capability.”
No need to apologize. Just fight to the death for the truth and let that be your apology!!
MiltonMan: “No need to apologize for something that does not exist.”
LOL! You guys are great.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:16 pm
Peadawg,
“That’s a good Boschy.”
Will you scratch my ear??
@@
April 21st, 2011
3:16 pm
I didn’t know Trump had formed an exploratory committee back in 1999. Hs favorable/unfavorable ratings were ’bout the same back then.
Is he gonna run? I don’t think so.
He’s forcing a conversation on topics that the others refuse to address. I’ll give him points for that.
jay’s team oughta be giving him points for all the early praise he laid on Obama.
Oops! Wait a minute…..if he could be so wrong about Obama, what else might he be wrong about?
schnirt
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:16 pm
Lil — “Wrong.”
Sorry, no. I’m right. And backed up by cold, hard, historical numbers. Would you like to see them this time?
“Unemployment was around 5% for most of the Bush administration”
Which is irrelevant, because U3 (again, this is the number you like to cite) ignores long-term unemployed and discouraged job seekers. It’s inaccurate because it doesn’t count those two groups of unemployed people, among others.
What really tells the tale are the job creation numbers. Unemployment is a lagging indicator. That’s why the Republicans like to use it — I think they’re hoping that the economy will stay bad enough long enough to not show improvement in U3 by the time the election gets here.
“and your Idiot Messiah”
I have no messiah, idiot or otherwise. I simply can’t stand to see people make repeated uninformed and incorrect assertions, as you have.
“would deport his Aunt Zeitunie if that would make his own sorry record as strong as Bush’s.”
Actually, his job creation record is *better* than Bush’s. He turned his employment downturn around *faster* than President Bush did, and with a *deeper* downturn than Bush had.
Again, would you like to see the numbers?
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:19 pm
and in the news of the absurd and cool….
Two bottles of 200-year old champagne recently salvaged from a Baltic Sea shipwreck will be auctioned off in June, the local government that owns the bubbly said Wednesday.
Finland’s autonomous province of Aaland “has decided that two bottles will be sold at an exclusive champagne auction held in (the capital) Mariehamn on June 3, 2011,” it said a statement.
One of the auctioned bottles will be from the house of Veuve-Clicquot and the other from the now extinct house of Juglar.
They are part of a batch of around 150 champagne bottles divers stumbled upon last July in a two-masted schooner which had run aground sometime between 1825 and 1830.
Salvaging of bottles — preserved in ideal conditions at the bottom of the Baltic Sea — began in August and authorities identified the bottles as the world’s oldest Juglar and Veuve Clicquot brands.
Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:19 pm
Bosch….not an insult….just stating what “Appears” to be a fact. The statements you make a ridiculous, unfounded, and just plain flat out wrong. When I say it appears that obama has no clue, i would say it is true. Either that or he enjoys seeing his entire administration looking like a bunch of dopes. well….now that I think about it…they haven’t looked too bright on anything they have done so perhaps he really does enjoy looking like a dolt.
stands for decibels
April 21st, 2011
3:19 pm
Scott @ 2.42, Obama belonged to the same denomination that that claimed crazy radicals like John Adams, Calvin Coolidge, and Ronald Reagans’ Sec’y of Commerce Malcolm Baldrige, for the record.
And I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume pretty much all you know of the former pastor of Trinity UCC, Rev. Wright, are three little words from a single sermon, played in an endless video loop throughout the so-called liberal media for a big chunk of March 2008. Am I right?
mm
April 21st, 2011
3:19 pm
One immoral jerk rooting for another.
Repulicans have low standards. Actually, they don’t have ANY standards.
Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:20 pm
tngelding…the numbers say otherwise but whatever makes you sleep better at night.
md
April 21st, 2011
3:21 pm
“Which is irrelevant, because U3 (again, this is the number you like to cite) ignores long-term unemployed and discouraged job seekers. It’s inaccurate because it doesn’t count those two groups of unemployed people, among others.”
It always does, so they have no bearing on any of the numbers…………….they will exist in every administration, so they are a wash.
Now, compare the posted numbers………….and one will get an idea of what is going on.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 21st, 2011
3:21 pm
There are numerous intelligent people would take the short bus. The size of the bus says nothing about the ability of the brain of the rider. It says tons about the small size of the brain of the person posting the reference.
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
3:21 pm
It appears that Scott judges folks on how they appear to be to him.
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:22 pm
“Repulicans have low standards. Actually, they don’t have ANY standards.”
….cause a state legislator turned 2 year senator is oh so qualified to be President of the United States of America.
The phone is ringing at 3am…. and Obama just takes it off the hook.
Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:22 pm
stands…not talking about denomination…talking about his actual church. Nice try at deflecting though buddy. there is alot more of Rev wright out there….not that you woudl care to try to find it at all. And BTW….is certainly was not played in liberal media. it wasn’t even covered by them.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:22 pm
” The statements you make a ridiculous, unfounded, and just plain flat out wrong.”
And what, pray tell, would that statement be?
See, here’s the thing — the only thing that is certain in this world is that one day we were born, and one day we’ll die — the rest is just opinion. Except math, that’s pretty factual. So, please don’t take yourself so seriously as to think that what you have to say is the truth, whole truth, and nothing but.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:23 pm
md — “Now, compare the posted numbers………….and one will get an idea of what is going on.”
Excellent! Would you like to see the numbers I’m speaking of?
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:24 pm
Again, would you like to see the numbers?
——–
I already gave you the most important one, so what’s the point? I suppose I can’t stop you!
Your Idiot Messiah has produced higher unemployment in every month of his regime than Bush did in any month of his eight years.
Paul
April 21st, 2011
3:25 pm
Scott
The very fact I asked others here to offer their recollections – particularly those who did the actual postings – should be enough to demonstrate I acknowledged I may be remembering incorrectly.
That’s in spite of what Jay wrote to you.
But it was obvious you just wanted a platform.
“As a former solder that fought in both Iraq and Afghanistan, I remember what clowns like you did. That is only recollection I need.”
Question: what were you doing in Iraq and Afg – reading this blog and seeing bloggers here recording the body counts? Then logging it so you could use it years later? Else, how else would you know what I did?
Or were those imagined memories? (Hint: I was one of those who took issue with the body count methodology).
Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:25 pm
taxpayer….false. I base my thoughts of you on the stupid things you guys post on here day in and day out. No substance. You ignore the facts. When you get called out on your stupid comments, you deflect deflect deflect. I am not surprised though…Sounds just like the Obama administration. Wah…..I don’t like being asked tough questions during interviews so i am just not going to do interviews anymore with you and I am going to deny you access to my admin…..wahhh wahhhh wahh. Most transparent admin my butt.
USMC
April 21st, 2011
3:26 pm
SUPPORTERS HECKLE OBAMA: ‘WHERE’S OUR CHANGE?’
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm
stands for decibels
April 21st, 2011
3:26 pm
Scott, you’ve obviously never been called on your BS about Trinity UCC; well, now you are.
Tell me about how this isn’t a Christian church. I’m all ears.
@@
April 21st, 2011
3:26 pm
Given Bosch’s Conversion Disorder…once known as Hysterical Blindness…even a dim bulb gives off a bright light.
Conversion disorder is a condition in which patients present with neurological symptoms such as numbness, blindness, paralysis, or fits without a neurological cause. It is thought that these problems arise in response to difficulties in the patient’s life, and conversion is considered a psychiatric disorder.
No offense, Bosch, just an observation.
md
April 21st, 2011
3:26 pm
“Excellent! Would you like to see the numbers I’m speaking of?”
Sure…..I’m always open to possibilities………but have no clue what you are talking about in reference to the posted unemployment numbers………they were around 5% and have moved up to around 10%……don’t see how that is better.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:27 pm
” I base my thoughts of you on the stupid things you guys post on here day in and day out. No substance.”
Coming from a post that has……no substance.
Corey
April 21st, 2011
3:28 pm
The Old Spice guy has a GASP! Muslim name! Can you say Isaiah Mustafa?
Newtster
April 21st, 2011
3:28 pm
Trump’s wife is hot. Wonder if I can get an upgrade….
Doggone/GA
April 21st, 2011
3:28 pm
“The Republican presidential candidates seem more like trail mix; an assortment of nutz with some dried up fruit mixed in”
I like this one a bit better: like a bowl of granola…full of fruits, nuts, and flakes
St Simons - we're on Island time
April 21st, 2011
3:28 pm
“None of the above” is leading in the polls for Republicans (Pew/CBS/NYT)
Well, at least we agree with them on something.
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
3:30 pm
The Republicans have finally picked their favorite candidate. By the way, who is this fella called “None of the Above?”
@@
April 21st, 2011
3:31 pm
Doggone:
And your candidate could be compared to instant oatmeal.
A bit runny.
Tom
April 21st, 2011
3:31 pm
Donald Trump can not do anymore damage to this country than the Big Three (Obama, Pelosi & Reid) has!!!! He is not a politican which I find refreshing. He also speaks his mind and does not mince his words trying not to offend some foreign country!
Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:31 pm
Paul..nice try in trying to question my character. You see people in the military get deployed. they also get these things called redeployments. Now that is where you come back from the sandbox and you get to come home. When you come home, you get to do things like jump on the internet and read the moronic things posted by people like you. Sounds good to you. Now we also have other things called television sets, also called TVs. They are these things that can play video coverage of news. Over in the desert, we still had access to these TVs and we could watch the body counts posted on CNN, MSNBC, etc. Yeah….I know….It is amazing that these TVs can get coverage from pretty much anywhere in the globe. We could also hear all of the swell things spoken of us by our oh-so-supportive Democratic led Congress. I hope that answers your question. Would you like to question my character any further.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:31 pm
Labor participation rate stable under Bush–tanking under Obozo:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
Newtster
April 21st, 2011
3:31 pm
Trump’s gotta nice plane too. If Trump gets Air Force 1, can I use the Trump’s 757?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=trump%27s%20airplane&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1792&bih=966
Paul
April 21st, 2011
3:31 pm
@@
awwww, thanks. I was beginning to fear we’d lost the @@ we all know and love!
Loved the alliteration. It’s so…. you!
So soon you forget I was on the side of criticizing those who inaccurately portrayed and criticized the Tea Partiers early on, hmmmmmm?
Remember the debate over Valerie Plame? Who outed her? Who should be punished? The lack of statutes cited? The duplicity of the special prosecutor?
Remember the Richard Clarke discussions? The contesting of the idea that if he’d been ‘listened to’ 9-11 would have been avoided?
Remember the furor over enhanced interrogations?
I think back on all that and that’s why I wrote that it seems to me your labels were hurled only when you perceived disagreement on domestic or social issues.
BID MIT
April 21st, 2011
3:31 pm
OBAMA IN 2012! YES WE CAN AGAIN!
Mike
April 21st, 2011
3:32 pm
“Several NFL players have been arrested on a variety of charges during the league’s lockout.”
surprise…surprise…come on owners you gotta keep these guys busy or they will all be in jail.
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
3:33 pm
Scott,
You also appear to be very distraught.
Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:34 pm
stands….when did I say it wasn’t a Christian church? Please, oh please, oh please, do me a favor and point it out to me. I merely mentioned that the guy went to church and listened to Wright say horrible things and he made the decision to continue to attend that church. that says a little bit about his character and his ideals.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:34 pm
At least Paul is open in his contempt for the military. Most of his ilk keep it under wraps or save it for conversations with the like-minded.
Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:36 pm
taxpayer….why do you have that as a name? I would have pegged you for somebody in the other 47%.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 21st, 2011
3:36 pm
ilk alert!
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:36 pm
oh lord. really, we have to watch this BS everywhere?
New Labor plan: Nationwide protests
politco.com
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:38 pm
methinks the Huck is serious about POTUS….
Huckabee slams Beck
politico.com
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
3:38 pm
I would have pegged you for somebody in the other 47%.
I see my choice of labels has served its purpose then.
Jay
April 21st, 2011
3:38 pm
Paul’s contempt for the military?
Little One, whenever I think you’ve gotten as low as you can go, I discover you have yet another secret sub-basement.
mm
April 21st, 2011
3:38 pm
“….cause a state legislator turned 2 year senator is oh so qualified to be President of the United States of America.”
To be honest, nobody is qualified to POTUS unless they have already had the job. And if you use your logic, nobody in this entire country would ever get a promotion.
And I’ll take Obama’s performance over GWB’s performance any day.
Kamchak
April 21st, 2011
3:39 pm
Don;t cry over spilled ilk.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:40 pm
Lil’ — “I already gave you the most important one”
Of course you didn’t.
“so what’s the point?”
The point is that you’re wrong and misinformed. You could be deliberately trying to mislead people, but I think you’re a better person than that.
“I suppose I can’t stop you!”
Do you plan to actually read them, sir/ma’am?
“Your Idiot Messiah”
I have no messsiah, idiot or otherwise
“has produced higher unemployment in every month of his regime than Bush did in any month of his eight years.”
And his job creation numbers are *better* than President Bush’s. The worst months for employment creation in the last 10 years happened under President Bush, not President Obama.
Here you go:
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.compaes.txt
Scroll down to this (it’s just a little bit down the page):
00000000 Total Nonfarm All Employees (in thousands), SEASONAllY ADJUSTED
Over-the-month change as revised (BM2010)
Economists differ on the exact number, but generally, it is agreed that you have to create ~150K jobs each month — about 1.8M jobs a year — just to keep up with population growth. Create less than that, and true unemployment is INCREASING (because you’re not employing all the new people coming into the labor force and you’re not putting back to work anyone who was already in the labor force), whereas if you create more than that, true unemployment is DECREASING. This is simple math.
Look through President Bush’s monthly numbers (you may have to scroll left and right to see all 12 months of each year). You’ll see that he doesn’t have a positive month until OCT 2003 and that he doesn’t really have a sustained period of job creation over 150K/month until 2005 — in his second term. He does have a 3-month period in the spring of 2004, late in his first term.
Look through President Obama’s monthly numbers, and you’ll see that he’s already had his first positive month (MAR 2010) and a 3-month up period (spring of 2010). And these figures don’t even include anything from 2011 yet.
Compare both sets of numbers, and you’ll see that President Bush’s job losses were shallower over a longer period than President Obama’s were. Yet President Obama turned it around *faster* than President Bush did, and with a deeper hole to dig out of.
What were the worst months for job creation from 2000 – 2010? Well, the *worst* two belong squarely in President Bush’s column; NOV 2008 and JAN 2009.
Sorry, Lil. When you actually *look* at the numbers in detail and break them down and compare them — actually THINKING about what you’re seeing — it’s plain that Obama’s done a better job with a worse employment problem than President Bush did. Both Presidents suck for job creation, but Obama’s clearly done a better job so far in pulling us back from the brink.
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:40 pm
During a morning fundraiser at the St. Regis Hotel, a woman interrupted the president to say she had written a song for him. But the message she and her table mates had for the president wasn’t one of affection – they were there to protest the treatment of Army Pfc. Bradley Manning, accused by the U.S. military of handing over thousands of confidential government documents to WikiLeaks.
“I paid my dues, where’s our change?” the group sang. “We’ll vote for you in 2012, yes that’s true. Look at the Republicans — what else can we do?”
It was another reminder to Obama, who is traveling through California and Nevada, that the Democratic base is restless. Obama conceded as much during a fundraiser on Wednesday, acknowledging that he’s frustrated progressives by striking deals with Republicans while going on an extended riff about how “everybody’s a political consultant” and his supporters say they “used to be so excited.”
The protest Thursday was a particularly stark, in-your-face confrontation for the tightly controlled and largely affectionate world that a president inhabits, especially when going from one big-money fundraiser to another.
When the woman first stood up, Obama tried to get her to wait until later, but she persisted and the table of 10 broke into a song that pointed out that each of them had spent $5,000 to attend the event.
Obama appeared to take the interruption in stride and at first he didn’t seem to realize it was a protest song. He looked to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and asked, “Nancy, did you do this?” Ms. Pelosi had a look on her face, as she stared at the singing group, that definitely said she did not, according to the pool report.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53546.html#ixzz1KBk64wiN
@@
April 21st, 2011
3:41 pm
Paul:
‘Scuse me, I guess I was supposed to thank you for all your support.
Social issues? No problems there.
Domestic issues like income redistribution? Big problem there. It only serves to breed contempt. It’s all or none with me.
I am so over the class warfare being used as a political weapon that divides this nation. It doesn’t fly with me anymore…used to during my MORE liberal days. I’ve outgrown it.
Bosch
April 21st, 2011
3:41 pm
” I base my thoughts of you on the stupid things you guys post on here day in and day out. No substance. You ignore the facts. When you get called out on your stupid comments, you deflect deflect deflect.”
“Scott
April 21st, 2011
3:39 pm
keep up. Uhoh…Ilk Alert. not one of those. You are such a douche.”
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:42 pm
mm 3:38 – someone who has worked in the Whitehouse, and also been governor, would be very qualified, infinitely more qualified. Like Mitch Daniels (or Huntsman).
Hell, Hillary would’ve been more qualified.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 21st, 2011
3:42 pm
Now now Scott….sticks and stones.
That makes me feel all kinds of warm and squishy…either that or I sat in something.
Joe Mama
April 21st, 2011
3:43 pm
Lil — “Labor participation rate stable under Bush–tanking under Obozo:”
Yes (laughing).
I’ve been TELLING you about that for a week, sir/ma’am.
That’s the shrinking labor force, Lil. (laughing)
Now go back and look at the numbers I posted. Read carefully and try to make sense of them. Then come on back and let’s talk.
TaxPayer
April 21st, 2011
3:43 pm
You Republicans have so many choices for the primary. How will you ever choose. You need some way to critique them. Some sort of metrics by which to gage their worthiness of your support. Let’s see, there’s that age thingie and they all look ages enough and then there’s the birther thingie and they all look crazy enough and then there’s the tax cut for the wealthiest thingie and they all look like the just finished snorting Koch. So, I think you’re gonna need something new to differentiate them. How about the religion thingie. That might knock out a few contenders. Then there’s the log cabin thingie. How many will be willing to come out of the closet for the chance at an extra vote. Decisions, decisions.
jm
April 21st, 2011
3:43 pm
The group continued its song: “Even though we don’t know if we’ll retain our liberties, in what you seem content to call a free society, yes it’s true that Terry Jones is legally free, to burn a people’s holy book in shameful effigy, but at another location in this country, alone in a 6×12 cell sits Bradley, 23 hours a day is night, the 5th and 8th Amendments say this kind of thing ain’t right, we paid our dues, where’s our change?”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53546.html#ixzz1KBkyVBGg
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 21st, 2011
3:44 pm
Sorry Joe, I give you credit for working as hard as you can to minimize the damage, but there just ain’t no getting around that pesky ol’ unemployment rate!
Unemployment: Higher under Obozo.
poison pen
April 21st, 2011
3:46 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 21st, 2011
1:41 pm
Poison…please stop picturing me in a shower perv How do I keep my sexual impulses down…well first I accept that I am not an animal who cannot control impluses. Are you aroused by The David and thus incapable of control?
Its obvious your thinking of something before you post, it may not however be the right things for this blog.
Keepup, my reference is to men soldiers being in their communal showers and a gay guy looking at all of them, don’t tell me he won’t have certain feelings, it would be the same thing as a man in a ladies shower, something I think you would not like. This is why DADT is such a hot issue, yet you libs want to support every goofy thing that another lib suggests.
Being a senior and serving for my country I don’t have to worry about things like this, but you brought it up without thinking about everything that goes with it.
Sorry about late response, took grandkids out to park.