GOP threatens to do real damage to country

110228_eric_cantor_ap_328From Politico:

“One day after being named to a presidential task force to negotiate deficit reduction, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor fired off a stark warning to Democrats that the GOP “will not grant their request for a debt limit increase” without major spending cuts or budget process reforms.

The Virginia Republican’s missive is a clear escalation in the long-running Washington spending war, with no less than the full faith and credit of the United States hanging in the balance….

People close to Cantor say that he hopes to make clear that small concessions from Democrats, including President Barack Obama, will not be enough to deliver the GOP on a debt increase.”

Great. Take the national economy hostage, stick a loaded pistol to its temple and threaten to pull the trigger unless you get your way. This is what we’ve come to. This is “leadership” and “statesmanship” in the modern American era. Cantor and his colleagues are trying to convince us that they really are childish, stupid and destructive enough to bring the country down to its knees if their demands aren’t fully satisfied.

I cannot imagine leaders of any other era, of any party or ideology, threatening to do severe long-term damage to the country as a means of winning a political argument, at least not since the years leading up to the Civil War. It would have been inconceivable to previous generations, and I can think of no historical parallel to it. Ronald Reagan, for example, would be appalled by the extremist tactics of those who claim to honor him.

Oh, and as to compromise? As Cantor said last week, “We can’t raise taxes. That was settled last November during the elections.”

– Jay Bookman

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Don't Tread

April 21st, 2011
7:55 am

Democrats have been doing real damage to this country for ages with rampant spending and stupid social engineering projects.

As Cantor said last week, “We can’t raise taxes. That was settled last November during the elections.”

And he’s right. People are tired of being taxed to death and then seeing their tax money spent on stupid stuff.. Republicans were elected to put the brakes on this sort of thing. And if they don’t do it, we’ll find someone that will.

Normal

April 21st, 2011
7:56 am

Mr. President,
Please, please, PULEEZE call their bluff. They WILL fold…guaranteed.

poison pen

April 21st, 2011
7:57 am

Well we need to start somwhwere, don’t we?
Jay, what is your solution, you seem to rip on all Repubs so surely you must have a better solution, I’m sure all of us would like to hear it.

Peadawg

April 21st, 2011
7:57 am

“stick a loaded pistol to its temple and threaten to pull the trigger”

After what happened in Arizona, this is what you got to say, Jay? You’re sick. If I say anything else, my post will be in moderation. That’s all I’m saying on this blog.

HM

April 21st, 2011
7:58 am

And the Dems did absolutely no damage to the country between 2009 & 2010?

Jay

April 21st, 2011
7:58 am

“taxed to death,” Tread?

Fact: Your tax load is lower today than it has been in several generations. You’re acting like a spoiled kid, demanding a functioning modern country but refusing to pay the price needed to build it.

poison pen

April 21st, 2011
7:59 am

Normal, are you saying that you agree with raising taxes & spending more? If people give you free money all the time what will you do with it, spend, spend, spend. DUH!

Joe The Plumber too.

April 21st, 2011
8:01 am

jay, let me fix that headline for you. oblowhard is doing real damage to this country. There you go, no thanks required, I just assumed you hadn’t had your coffee yet this fine a.m.

poison pen

April 21st, 2011
8:02 am

Jay, Fact: 45% of households don’t pay taxes. Why not eliminate all the loopholes and make everyone pay something, then you will get more money so our politicans can spend till the Earth ends.

Jay

April 21st, 2011
8:02 am

Poison, as I’ve written countless times here, we need a combination of long-term spending cuts and long-term tax increases across the board to resolve this problem, and it can’t be negotiated with one side holding a gun to the national economy and refusing to compromise.

Granny Godzilla

April 21st, 2011
8:05 am

Fortunately, the GOP remains the gang that can’t shoot straight.

You might just say to Mr Cantor:

You’ll shoot your eye out! You’ll shoot your eye out!

PS: Our “bidness” is boomin’……is everybody else feeling the uptick?

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 21st, 2011
8:06 am

Jay

My appologies on yesterday….

I guess this is another cog in the wheel of the GOP’s plan to make Obama a one-term president. After all, he can’t serve another term if the country collapses in to a pile of rubble. If they want to crash the world economy just to remain ideologically pure, we have a real problem on our hands that spending cuts will not cure.

Doggone/GA

April 21st, 2011
8:07 am

“Fact: 45% of households don’t pay taxes”

Complete, total and utter lie.

Jay

April 21st, 2011
8:08 am

Fact: That’s a total lie, Poison.

45 percent don’t pay income taxes, which is only one particular form of tax. They do many several other types of federal taxes, all of which go into the same pot.

And even the 45 percent figure is artificially and we hope temporarily high, a product of high unemployment with depressed incomes for millions of Americans. If you want to squeeze some more tax money out of a family household trying to raise kids on an income of $25 or $30k, or a senior citizen living on Social Security, which maxes out at around $28K, you go right ahead.

larry

April 21st, 2011
8:09 am

The POG is not going to be happy until they see every elderly and disabled person out on the street , living in shelters all to support their addiction to giving tax breaks to people who dont need them.

Of course , Cantor doesn’t know how a bill becomes law. Let him try to hold this country hostage, he wouldnt know what he was doing in the first place.

Jack

April 21st, 2011
8:10 am

Threats are necessary because liberals don’t understand anything less. Compromise with a liberal means doing it his way.

Doggone/GA

April 21st, 2011
8:10 am

There’s only one response to extortion: publish and be damned

@@

April 21st, 2011
8:12 am

GEEZ!!!

Great. Take the national economy hostage, stick a loaded pistol to its temple and threaten to pull the trigger unless you get your way. This is what we’ve come to. This is “leadership” and “statesmanship” in the modern American era. Cantor and his colleagues are trying to convince us that they really are childish, stupid and destructive enough to bring the country down to its knees if their demands aren’t fully satisfied.

Getting up on the left (wrong) side of the bed’ll do it to ‘ya every time, jay. Getting up on the right side will right what’s wrong.

“I remember when the candle shop burned down. Everyone stood around singing ‘Happy Birthday.”–Steven Wright

stands for decibels

April 21st, 2011
8:17 am

at least not since the years leading up to the Civil War.

Assuming you’re right about that—I don’t claim to be quite sufficiently schooled in American parliamentary horrors to know if you are—then it would be in keeping with the desires of the loony-bin separatist base that this party feels compelled to coddle.

see also this, and this.

Why any sane person would follow these men down this path, I’ve no clue.

jt

April 21st, 2011
8:17 am

“Great. Take the national economy hostage, stick a loaded pistol to its temple and threaten to pull the trigger unless you get your way.”

These progressives sure are a violent bunch when they’re wanting their tax increases.
I shudder to think what Jay would do if given a sniper rifle.

This rhetoric is too inflameble. Like PeaDawg, I’m out to Lew Rockwell or someplace more tame.

Drifter

April 21st, 2011
8:19 am

Just threatening? Both the GOP and the Democrats across the aisle keep pulling the trigger on us every day…it’s called $14,000,000,000,000 of debt.

RB from Gwinnett

April 21st, 2011
8:19 am

Just curious Jay, what in the world do you call what the Democrats have done to this country?

“as I’ve written countless times here, we need a combination of long-term spending cuts and long-term tax increases across the board to resolve this problem,”

You’ve also said you would be happy to pay “a few thousand more” of your own money to fix the problem, but when you had the opportunity to do so on your 2010 tax returns, you welched, Jay. Just admit you really only mean you want them to tax other people.

Jay

April 21st, 2011
8:19 am

I guess I should have ordered a few fainting couches….

larry

April 21st, 2011
8:20 am

Of course, they would not be talking this way if the President hadn’t caved in to their demands the last two times. I hope this time the President will show some backbone and stand up to the POG.

@@

April 21st, 2011
8:21 am

jay:

I guess I should have ordered a few fainting couches….

It would appear you only need the one for yourself.

JKL2

April 21st, 2011
8:22 am

Jay- we need a combination of long-term spending cuts

So you agree with Rep. Cantor on this one. The proposed Republican cuts have been laughably small but yet the Demwits were all crying about them. Maybe they need a “loaded pistol to the temple” for their dumb a$$es to wake up and start taking the deficit/budget seriously.

El Jefe

April 21st, 2011
8:23 am

Jay,

We pay a myriad of taxes at a flat rate, FICA, Medicare, sales tax, even the state income tax is basically a flat tax.

Why then is it not okay to tax income for the feds at a flat rate? Lets say 15% for everyone bringing home a pay check. That would cut out every other tax on the pay check. It would be consistent and equitable.

Think of it, a person working at mickey macs making $12,000 a year would pay $1,800 a year in taxes, while the lawyer making $250,000 would pay $37,500 a year in taxes. That seems fair and the lawyer would most likely be paying more than he/she is today.

Normal

April 21st, 2011
8:23 am

poison pen

April 21st, 2011
7:59 am

Poison,
I agree with Jay, we have to raise taxes and yes, we have to control spending, but we need not start with medicare and Social Security. Start with Defense, then the Business subsidies on down. Social Subsidies will be last. When the Republicans start talking about that, then we will make real progress, until then…it’s just noise from the Corporate Lovers.

detritusUSA

April 21st, 2011
8:23 am

Don’t worry, they’ll raise the debt limit. This nation is a plutocracy and the wealthy won’t stand for a possible loss of a penny of their money through economic convulsions. Their paid for minions will rise to the occasion.

Gale

April 21st, 2011
8:24 am

You are right, Don’t Tread. I am tired of seeing my tax money spent on stupid stuff — like wars we should not be involved in. And, btw, discontinuing a tax break that should not have been given is not the same as raising taxes.

Blitz Wolfer

April 21st, 2011
8:24 am

Jay – Obumbles has been taking this country down the toilet for the past 2 years. The grown ups are now trying to reign in the debt that Obama has accumulated.

We need politicians with the balls to make these tough decisions. The democrats do nothing but pander to unions and the entitlement crowd.

kayaker 71

April 21st, 2011
8:24 am

Many of the right would not mind raising taxes and contributing more if they were sure that the money would be spent on something other than another liberal program to help the “less fortunate”. We’ve been paying the “less fortunate’s” bills for way too long now. Congress could not manage a lemonade stand and the American taxpayer knows it.

stands for decibels

April 21st, 2011
8:25 am

Think of it

el jefe, people much smarter than you already have, and to blithely impose another 15% income tax on vast numbers of people already at the margins of economic survival in this country would be lunacy.

Mick

April 21st, 2011
8:26 am

Jay – please, this is wearing a lot of us down here. What is the FACTUAL number of the debt when clinton left office? What is the FACTUAL number when W. bush left office? Has obama really done as much damage as some would like to believe or has he been tagged with a lot of the previous presidents debt? I’d like to get the straight truth if possible…

JKL2

April 21st, 2011
8:27 am

Maybe they should all take a vacation to the Holiday Inn in Burr Ridge, IL until all this blows over. It seemed to be really popular on here when the Senators from WI did it…

mottlicher

April 21st, 2011
8:27 am

To: President Obama and all 535 voting members of the Legislature

The verdict is in…

Every one of you have ALL been proven to be completely corrupt and total failures!

1. The U.S. Post Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is becoming more unsustainable by the day.

2. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is bankrupt.

3. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right. It is bankrupt and now has an unlimited line of credit from the Fed.

4. The War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to “the poor” and they only want more.

5. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are bankrupt.

6. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right. It is bankrupt and now has an unlimited credit line from the Fed.

7. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure.

8. You rile on about corporate corruption; you demonize our free market system and the businesses who hand us our pay checks; you take that which is not yours and pour in into socialist trash heaps and disgusting delusion. It is YOU who ARE the epitome of corruption and abysmal FAILURE!

You have FAILED in every Socialist “government service” you have shoved down our throats while stealing our tax dollars.

AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??

stands for decibels

April 21st, 2011
8:27 am

…that said, and not to get derailed onto yet another tiresome, stupid argument about tax “fairness,” I’ve said before and will say again that I support bringing our tax brackets back to where they were under Clinton, which would mean everyone’s taxes would increase. I wouldn’t do it all at once—I would stick the wealthier Americans with the tab first, then roll in the lower incomes a year or two later. But yeah, we do need to go there sooner or later, and stop believing that we are “taxed enough already,” because clearly we aren’t.

George P. Burdell

April 21st, 2011
8:28 am

Yes we pay less in income taxes than we have as a whole but some groups have faired better than others in the tax breaks. The left screams about the top earners and the right screams about the bottom 50%. Truth is the top 1% and the bottom 50% have had significant breaks from the share they paid in 1986 after the last major tax reform. The group that has not benefited has been the earners from 1% to 5% of top income. They are the only subset in the general IRS data breakdown that pays more today. Ironically, that is the very group the left seems to be targetting as is clearly includes the earners over $250,000. I’ll gladly pay more if it is going to help the long term financial position of our country but all of this partisan rantings do nothing to help the situation. I blame the far right and far left and as usual those of us left in the middle will be the ones that ultimately pick up the tab for both groups.

USMC dawg

April 21st, 2011
8:28 am

Obama and Democrats have already done real damage to the country:
Bill Clinton’s right hand man explains:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLyJSOlv16M

jconservative

April 21st, 2011
8:28 am

Since when has it been a “Democratic” request to raise the debt limit?

If the Republicans do not want to raise the debt limit, then vote not to do it and quit talking about. Have a vote tomorrow and let the House vote no.

The reason they talk about it instead of actually doing it is because they know that in the end they will vote to raise the debt limit. So they talk, and a lot of their base is fooled into believing something is being done.

ty webb

April 21st, 2011
8:29 am

Obama votes against raising the debt limit and even makes some comments about how raising it shows a “lack of leadership”. Jay, carrying obama’s water, insists it was only a “protest” vote. Republicans threaten to vote the same way as senator obama, and that is going to “damage” to the country? Jay…you’re better than that…aren’t you? oh, and no “racial resentment” was involved in the typing of this comment.

The Woz

April 21st, 2011
8:30 am

OOOOOOOH. Demanding spending cuts to stop the red ink bloodbath is a danger to the repubublic? Nonsense!

It seems that every dollar of federal spending is going to have to be pried out of the democrats hands with a crowbar. If you wnat to raise the debt limit, prove you are serious about spending.

The damage to the republic is coming from the left who has jacked our deficits to eleven percent of GDP and whose lack of control is once again threatening the fiscal health of the country.

JP

April 21st, 2011
8:30 am

I am a DEM and feel we haven’t done a good job at all on deficit control the last 2 years. We can debate if we needed deficit spending to juice the economy, but the bottom line is, we are here now. That said I find it interesting that Boehner, Cantor, and Ryan were in office during 2000-2006 and were entirely complicit in driving up the debt. Yet you never here them say “yeah we were to blame too.” So you hear them NOW as if they have always been the party of fiscal sanity. They haven’t. So between both parties, there might be only 5 people who have been entirely consistent on deficit control, and that is what drives me crazy.

Normal

April 21st, 2011
8:30 am

Good Morning Gale, How are you?

stands for decibels

April 21st, 2011
8:30 am

motty @ 8.27, sorry, but our Scout has the exclusive Bookmaniac franchise rights to copy/pasting musty emails forwarded to him by his AOL buddy-listers.

kayaker 71

April 21st, 2011
8:31 am

mottlicher,

Great post. Are you listening, Bookman?

JKL2

April 21st, 2011
8:33 am

Norml- Start with Defense

How do you expect to pay for obama’s wars? He’s already given tax cuts to millionaires so I guess that isn’t in his plans either.

Gordon

April 21st, 2011
8:33 am

Do you think there will be “real damage” if we don’t get serious about deficit reduction? Clearly Obama isn’t serious – 2 months ago he wasn’t mentioning entitlement reform in his budget proposals and only is now in response to Ryan’s plan for political reasons. At what point do we actually get down to doing what needs to be done, Jay?

Normal

April 21st, 2011
8:33 am

stands for decibels

April 21st, 2011
8:30 am

Thanks for that Stands, but I’m afraid that people like Kayaker won’t listen to you…

Mike

April 21st, 2011
8:34 am

Normal; this is not a game of chicken that is being played – it’s about saving our great Nation from bankruptcy. Try to think about bigger issues than petty politics and, please, stop drinking the Cool-Aid!

Normal

April 21st, 2011
8:35 am

JKL2

April 21st, 2011
8:33 am

come on now, you’re not that naive..you’re just postulating…

gator24

April 21st, 2011
8:35 am

Hopefully these voters for the Republicans elected to congress see what they are all about. The last decade in congress cause all these problems with the debt and deficit

Russ555

April 21st, 2011
8:35 am

Raise the debt ceiling with no coditions. We have to pay our debts and obligations. Then change the laws to reduce future debts and obligations. But to threaten a default is close to treason.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 21st, 2011
8:36 am

The democrats do nothing but pander to unions and the entitlement crowd

The republicans do nothing but pander to the Kochs and the corporate overloads

Fixed that for you. But honestly, does either statement really reflect the complete truth or move the discussion forward.
_______________________________

Many of the right would not mind raising taxes and contributing more if they were sure that the money would be spent on something other than another liberal program to help the “less fortunate”

And many on the left would not mind cutting spending from the right places if the savings were not being passed along as tax credits to benefit those who need it least. Seems we ought to be negotiating and not giving ultimatums

USMC dawg

April 21st, 2011
8:36 am

Obama’s reckless spending threatens to do real damage to the country:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yxFtTwDcc

Gale

April 21st, 2011
8:36 am

G’morning, Normal. I’m enjoying a few minutes reading the usual back and forth here while awaiting the day’s flood of “urgent” matters. It appears the sane folks are still sane and the either side extremes are still extreme in their opinions.

Not Blind

April 21st, 2011
8:36 am

Government spending IS the problem. Higher taxes means less discretionary income. Lots of spending money in the pocket drives the economy. The American taxpayer needs to throw the globe off his shoulder.

TaxPayer

April 21st, 2011
8:36 am

Cantor and his colleagues are trying to convince us that they really are childish, stupid and destructive enough to bring the country down to its knees if their demands aren’t fully satisfied.

Hey, I’m convinced. If that’s the path that the GOP chooses to take then let’s do it. Let’s give the GOP the credit it will rightfully deserve for sending us into the 2nd Great Depression. By the way, what happened to the GOP after that little fiasco. Go for it.

Normal

April 21st, 2011
8:37 am

Mike,
you are being a drama queen or you really don’t know what not raising the debt ceiling would do, not only to us, but the global economy. Do a little reading and then we will talk.

Richard L

April 21st, 2011
8:37 am

The republicans are doing what needs to be done. (Note: They share a large part of the blame, since under Bush/Cheney the created a huge part of the problem. But being partly responsible for the problem does not mean they shouldn’t do the right thing to fix the problem).

The federal government has very, very few responsibilities. Its turned into a fat, bloated tick on the country. It can safely but cut by well over half (Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid should all be eliminated totally over a period of time. All of those programs solve an issue that belongs to American Society, not American Government).

Both parties are losers, in this case though, the Republicans are doing what is a (minor) step in the right direction.

Mick

April 21st, 2011
8:38 am

usmc

Where were you deficit hawks the past decade? Why now? That is the hypocrisy of your daily rants…

SoGaVet

April 21st, 2011
8:38 am

The “tax increase” that everyone is whining we can’t afford would be on those who make $20,833 A MONTH! I’ll bet a month’s pay there are darned few on this blog that curry that kind of coin. I bet in my town in South GA, there aren’t even 820 that would make up 2% of our population that make that much. Call their bluff Mr. President!

shawny

April 21st, 2011
8:39 am

“This is what we’ve come to.”
Note to Jay. Both sides have negotiated in this fashion to get their pet projects pushed through for decades.

Normal

April 21st, 2011
8:39 am

Gale,

I hear you. Let one “Normal” person say wecome to the mad house, to you. :)

larry

April 21st, 2011
8:39 am

HEADLINE: A Washington Post-ABC News poll found 72% of Americans wanted Congress to raise taxes on wealthy Americans making more than $250,000 per year.

Hear that Mr. Cantor? 72%.

Where's My Party?

April 21st, 2011
8:39 am

It is absolutely laughable you are calling out the Repubs as having no “leadership” or “statesmanship” when we have the horrific mistake of a President in office. The Dems had their chance and blew it. Mr. Obama is a fantastic candidate, but a horrid “leader” and a pathetic “statesman”. He actually makes the Repubs look good.

stands for decibels

April 21st, 2011
8:40 am

Has obama really done as much damage as some would like to believe or has he been tagged with a lot of the previous presidents debt?

jeez.

The only real bit of true additional spending these liars, criminals and developmentally challenged folk can point to is that which was authorized under the Recovery act, which took a couple of years to spend (whoop de freekin’ do) about half a trillion that – and this is very important to remember — would’ve likely been absorbed by individual states anyway, who are not in a position to incur cheaply lent debt like the feds.

And as I have argued a kajillion times, the Recovery act shouldn’t have been even remotely controversial. Had McCain been elected, I’m certain he would’ve seen the need for a similar economic stimulus—he would’ve had tax cuts/credits as a bigger chunk of it, but he would’ve spent on a similar scale.

Beyond that, these GOPers are blowing smoke. They know full well that Obama inherited a debt load that was mostly the result of elephant dungage, and they’ll do anything to make you believe otherwise.

USMC dawg

April 21st, 2011
8:40 am

Obama’s lack of understanding basic economic principles, among other things, threatens to do real damage to the country:
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSDBu35K-8

JKL2

April 21st, 2011
8:40 am

kayaker 71- Congress could not manage a lemonade stand and the American taxpayer knows it

Here’s the obama lemonade stand for you…

http://ragbrai.com/2009/07/19/obama-lemonade-near-henderson/

Jay

April 21st, 2011
8:40 am

Mick, I’ve posted OMB Historical Table 1.1, the basic accounting of revenue and spending, for the years 1979 through 2013 at http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/?page_id=7647

Note that the CBO had established that the 2009 deficit would be $1.2 trillion before Obama even took the oath of office, based on plummeting government revenue and increased costs for unemployment benefits, etc.

Emmanuel Halle

April 21st, 2011
8:41 am

The Republican lie that the Democrats are the big spenders has worked. The right wing misinformation is now acceptable to the media and to far too much of the public. Some of the very same Republican hypocrites who now would see the destruction of this country to get tax cuts for the “rich” and their paymaster, big business, led the fight for debt ceiling increases under George W. Bush. The Republicans do not have a winning hand in this fight and President Obama should realize that and tell Cantor and his right wingers to go to hell!

ty webb

April 21st, 2011
8:41 am

Now here’s something I can get behind:

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
Barack Obama-2006

So which obama is right? hmmmm. And again, no “racial resentment” was involved in the typing of this comment.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

April 21st, 2011
8:41 am

Well, when little ______ Zell George wants something and don’t get it he holds his breath and starts turning red and then kind of blue. It always works. The missus and the boy’s Mommy cave in and he gets what he wants and the missus and the boy’s Mommy start blaming theirselfs for being so stubborn in the first place.

So I’m betting Cantor and his bunch of Godly Republicans get most of what they want. But by that time the economy will be in shambles because we can’t borrow anymore and we’ll be known as—no offense, to any blogger here—a Welcher. And the Republicans will blame Obama for it and they’ll take the White House and the Senate and we’ll get ALL of what we want and the Welfare Queens will need to ride bicycles and Those People will need to find jobs and we’ll have three or four wars going on and the geezers will be flocking to WalMart to find Greeter jobs. And there’ll be lots of Tax Cuts and Trickle Down and we won’t want to die and go to Heaven because we got Paradise on earth.

But I might could be wrong so keep paying the note on your house and saving up.

Have a good day everybody.

Terd Fergesun

April 21st, 2011
8:42 am

What a crock this is Bookman! Dems are spending our way into oblivion and you the little liberal sicifant want to blame the Republicans. I will say one thing, you are a proud member of the band that keeps playing on the Titanic as it sinks. Keep playing Bookman, keep playing!

kayaker 71

April 21st, 2011
8:42 am

SoGaVet,

What’s wrong with making $20,833/month? You’d give your left nut for that kind of income and so would a lot of the whiners on this blog. What’s mine and what’s yours is mine….. the old liberal wisdom.

stands for decibels

April 21st, 2011
8:42 am

The Dems had their chance and blew it.

how, pray tell, would you have turned the ship of state around and magically turned the job hemorrhage from -500,000+ to above 200,000 a month, and somehow closed the budget deficit in the process?

I’m all ears.

buck@gon

April 21st, 2011
8:43 am

Holding a gun to the head? Gee, I thought Obama was actually threatening the same thing when he said in his speech last week that education and roads weren’t going to be funded unless he got HIS WAY!! Seems to me that he promises to get rid of waste, fraud and abuse more than he actually does anything at all when he wants Congress to authorize trillions more in spending. Why should we believe him on spending? Why are 2008 spending levels going to do “real damage” to the country?

Can’t answer, can you?

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Everyone

We here at LOVE want you to know that we favor cutting taxes as our GREAT PRESIDENT has always been in favor of doing. We are solidly committed.

Just don’t cut the following: food stamps, prescription drugs for seniors, Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, corporate breaks for GE, Green Energy, the EPA, Housing subsidies, Home heating assistance, Social security, NEA, Public Radio, Public television, OSHA, payments to ACORN, FDIC, FSLIC, FNMA, USACE, temporary long-term unemployment assistance, Disability payments….

Jay,

The GUN that the Democrats have to the public’s head is simply this, political partisanship, posturing, threats and demagoguery. You gleefully reported the findings of polls that show Americans want to cut spending but not any programs. Here, you are again happily chastising Republicans for using decisive actions to actually cut spending programs. In doing so, you are simply wrong about what would happen. The US can spend money it doesn’t have in two ways, not one. 1) it can borrow; 2) it can print. The Chinese are not committed to buying so much stock in us anymore, and the Japanese… well, let’s just say they have earth-shaking issues to deal with. America has done both borrowing and printing actually since our GREAT PRESIDENT slithered into the White House, so there is no great tragedy if government is forced to print rather than borrow.

The Democrat position is still that we won’t cut any of these programs in any measurable way–unless “cutting” in the Orwellian mess of liberal Washington means “raising someone’s taxes”–which of course, it DOES mean. At least we can see the Dem position more clearly now.

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Keep your focus Jay. As a media member of LOVE, you now have a quota of two birther stories a week, two unemployment-is-really-a-good-thing stories, three Republican-luddite stories (you can find your own adjectives), four about how dignified our GREAT PRESIDENT is, five about how much spending cuts would hurt the poor, the elderly, children, the handicapped, minorities, women, babies, firemen, police, the traveling public, public transportation, roads, shipping, eaters of food, buyers of gasoline, breathers of air….. use your creativity here. We would also like you to take back your 30-year-old son, now 31, back into your house.

Remember our GREAT PRESIDENT’s iron clad commitment to rid our country of waste, fraud and abuse. Remember as HE said, “you’ve got me now.” We will do these things and finally, we have a country we can be proud of.

Bosch

April 21st, 2011
8:44 am

“One day after being named to a presidential task force to negotiate deficit reduction, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor

Or as I like to call him, Mr. Weasel Man.

Now…….on to read the rest.

JKL2

April 21st, 2011
8:44 am

keep- The democrats do nothing but pander to Soros and the corporate overloads

Fixed that for you

real john

April 21st, 2011
8:44 am

Bookman:

The US economy is facing enormous long term pressures and is heading for a cliff. Those are the facts. Medicare, Medicared, and Social Security cannot continue as they currently are. Even the most liberal Democrats will privately admit that.

Throwing out useless statements like “We are going to cut hundreds of billions in waste from these programs” is complete crap. Every president says that and they know is crap. If we could cut all of this waste, we would already be doing it.

The Democrats are putting everyone in this country as huge financial risks by not getting serious about how big a problem the US debt is becoming. The Dems don’t want to screw up there Afrian-American, union, Jewish, Gay, young, naive college vote, so instead they will continue to bash Repbulicans.

Not only is Obama and the Democrats not doing anything to help the long term debt, they are actually making it much worse.

For all of the Bush haters, Obama’s spending make’s Bush look down right stingy. Give him 8 years, Obama’s debt will more than double Bush’s.

Gale

April 21st, 2011
8:44 am

I think many people have had to deal with personal debt getting out of control and know very well what it takes to get it back under control. It is not easy and it does involve some sacrifice. When the Congress claims they can do the same thing by cutting revenue, those same people don’t buy it. I can only hope they remember it when election day arrives. I think the best thing that could happen in Washington is a strict –much reduced– limit on campaign spending –which includes third party “issue” ads, and tem limits. We need representatives in Washington solving problems, not working to keep their seat.

Mick

April 21st, 2011
8:45 am

Thanks Jay, the link did not work but I do recall you going over this. There seems to be a lot of misinformation causing a ball of confusion..

stands for decibels

April 21st, 2011
8:45 am

Hey, Jay?

If the fainting couch crew are truly disturbed by the “violent” rhetoric in your post, could I please provide some of my own to make it seem tame by comparison? Because I’d be happy to help.

md

April 21st, 2011
8:45 am

Nice one sided view of the situation…………as I see it, doing nothing, as S&P also seems to see it, is no different than the other extreme………both lead to the same outcome……….

But side choosers have a hard time seeing the reality some times……………

The Teleprompter Caliphate of Socialist Union thugs - Bingo!

April 21st, 2011
8:46 am

These sociopaths are perfectly willing to accept the meddycare etc that the Greatest Generatio­n paid forward, but when it comes time for them to step up, they turn into shirking weasels, and “re-brand” it “courageou­s”. They make me sick.

jm

April 21st, 2011
8:46 am

“as a means of winning a political argument”

its an economic argument, not a political one.

BigBusiness

April 21st, 2011
8:46 am

The Wall Street Journal reports today that Corporate America certainly isn’t doing its part to help bring America out of its economic malaise. The paper surveyed employment data by some of the nation’s largest corporations — General Electric, Caterpillar, Microsoft, Wal-Mart, Chevron, Cisco, Intel, Stanley Works, Merck, United Technologies, and Oracle — and found that they cut their workforces by 2.9 million people over the last decade while hiring 2.4 million people overseas.

Fletch

April 21st, 2011
8:47 am

Yaaawwwnn……Nothing to see here. Could someone please wake me up when there is actually something new going on? It’s like a friggin broken record around here lately. Both parties suck, their sheep followers will continue to bleet their praises while trying up with more creative nicknames to insult their leaders.

And by the way, if you use the term Obumbles, Obozo, Boner, Con or Libtard, you really do sound like an idiot. But keep it up little sheepy, your masters need your unwavering support.

jm

April 21st, 2011
8:47 am

““We can’t raise taxes. ”

Maybe he means tax rates.

jm

April 21st, 2011
8:48 am

Also, the debate has been running that corporate creditworthiness is better than the US government’s. Which might mean, in the event of default, while it would be difficult, corporate America might survive relatively unscathed since they’ve paid down their debt loads so much and have so many cash reserves.

Might be a lesson for DC, though they’ll never get it.

Jay

April 21st, 2011
8:48 am

Mick, the link works for me. Has anybody else tried it?

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/?page_id=7647

LeeH1

April 21st, 2011
8:49 am

The Republicans and Tea-Baggers weren’t elected to work together for the common good. They were elected to confront, delay and destroy. Where were you in the last election? Of course they will drive america off a cliff for their narrow ideology! That’s what they were elected to do!

When you make simplistic answers to complex problems, you have gridlock and foolishness. Are the Republicans beeing foolish and unreasonable? Yes, they are. That;’s what they were elected to do. They are doing a good job.

No taxes for the rich! Let the markets regulate themselves! Get rid of government entirely, except for the police and jail system! Get rid of all minority positions, and make this country the wonderful palce it was back in the days when rich white people ran it!

SoGaVet

April 21st, 2011
8:50 am

Kayaker,

As a matter of fact, my family income last year came darn close – which is why I know that folks making that much can afford the additional bite.

md

April 21st, 2011
8:50 am

“Where were you deficit hawks the past decade? Why now? That is the hypocrisy of your daily rants…”

And there goes the curve ball……………doesn’t much matter where the problem came from (both sides if one is honest), the problem is here…..now…..and needs to be fixed…….and it will take ALL the misfits to get it done.

JKL2

April 21st, 2011
8:50 am

Norml- you really don’t know what not raising the debt ceiling would do, not only to us, but the global economy.

We’re already monetizing most of our debt now the way it is. What difference would it make since all we’re doing is printing more money? Sure the dollar is worth a peso but that’s what obama (and Soros) wants anyway.

Bosch

April 21st, 2011
8:51 am

“would be spent on something other than another liberal program to help the “less fortunate”. We’ve been paying the “less fortunate’s” bills for way too long now”

No matter how many times you point out that is utter bs, they still can’t refrain from writing it. It’s like they are programmed or something.

Bosch

April 21st, 2011
8:51 am

Yeap, Jay, working for me.

jconservative

April 21st, 2011
8:51 am

A little discussion of debt limit politics:

“In the past, the politics on a debt-limit vote have been relatively straightforward. The party in power talks about the need to ensure the continued soundness of the country’s credit and votes for an increase; the party out of power inveighs against irresponsible fiscal policies and votes against.

Obama, who is now pushing to raise the debt ceiling, voted against an increase as a member of the Senate in 2006, when George W. Bush was in the White House.

Nearly every single Republican in the Senate voted for a debt-ceiling increase that year. Three years later, when Democrats held power, every Senate Republican but one voted against an increase. Democrats have followed the same pattern.

This year, the politics are more complicated, as House Republicans have to find common ground with the Democrats who control the Senate.”

Bottom line is that horrible “C” word – Compromise.

Both Cantor and Reid know a compromise will be worked out. Both a just looking for a little extra butter on their slice of bread.

roughrider

April 21st, 2011
8:52 am

I’m not an economist or history expert but I can remember that during Clinton’s last year in office the USA had a budget surplus. During Bush’s last year, we had an economic meltdown.

jm

April 21st, 2011
8:52 am

jay 8:48 link works. aside from pop up ad :)