The Ryan budget plan, Part III: More trickle-down

In “The Path to Prosperity,” House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan makes it clear that tax increases will not be part of the solution to the nation’s fiscal problems. He intends to address the problem solely through budget cuts, most of them focused on programs affecting the elderly, the sick and the poor. After all, that’s where the money is in the federal budget, especially when you exempt the Pentagon from spending cuts, as Ryan proposes to do.

“The U.S. government is not running sustained deficits because Americans are taxed too little,” the plan states. “The government is running deficits because it spends too much.”

However, that sentiment doesn’t mean that Ryan intends to leave the tax code untouched. Among other things, he proposes to reduce the number of tax brackets from the current six, which would make the income tax flatter and less progressive. He also intends to lower the top tax bracket on individuals and corporations from the current 35 percent to 25 percent.

Inevitably, such changes would have the effect of lowering taxes on corporations and the wealthy, while shifting more of the burden to working and middle-class Americans. When combined with the payroll tax, which Ryan concedes is a surtax on earned income below $106,000, a large number of working class and middle-class Americans would probably end up paying a significantly higher percentage of their income in federal taxes than their wealthier counterparts.

I say “probably” because as far as I can tell, Ryan hasn’t released specifics of his tax reform proposal to the public. He did, however, provide considerable detail to the Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis to allow it to project the economic impact of the proposed changes. So let’s see what they have to say.

Overall, Heritage projects, the Ryan budget proposal would produce an outcome that frankly would be nothing short of miraculous, including an increase in economic output of $1.5 trillion over the next ten years. That in turn would help drive down the federal deficit considerably.

But how real is it? Unlike projections by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the Heritage analysis relies on what is called “dynamic scoring.” In other words, it programs its computer models to assume that tax cuts on the wealthy and corporations produce enormous economic growth.

For example, let’s take a look at what dynamic scoring does to the projected unemployment rate. The CBO projects that the unemployment rate next year will average 8.4 percent. The Heritage Foundation, using dynamic scoring, projects that if the Ryan plan passes, unemployment would plummet next year to 6.4 percent.

By 2015, the CBO projects, unemployment will be down to 5.9 percent. Under the Ryan plan, Heritage projects it will fall to a remarkable 4.0 percent, declining still further to 2.8 percent in 2021.

2.8 percent?

Who believes that? Nobody believes that. In fact, those projections are so embarrassingly absurd that Heritage itself has gone back into its study and removed them. They were there in the version I downloaded yesterday; they are gone from the version available today.

In this case, Heritage can make ridiculous claims for the economic benefits of Ryan’s plan — claims that help account for the supposed deficit reduction — without fear of those claims being tested against reality. Nobody believes that the plan will ever be adopted.

Ten years ago, however, the Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis ran similar projections for President Bush’s plan to cut taxes, using the same computer model it used to analyze Ryan’s plan.

Heritage claimed that if the Bush tax cuts were approved, the economy would grow so quickly that by 2010, the entire federal debt would effectively be eliminated.

Not only that, “The plan would save the entire Social Security surplus and increase personal savings while the federal government accumulated $1.8 trillion in uncommitted funds from FY 2008 to FY 2011, revenue that could be used to reform the Social Security and Medicare systems and reduce the payroll tax,” Heritage claimed.

Well ….

– Jay Bookman

970 comments Add your comment

AmVet

April 7th, 2011
6:06 am

“At least Ryan has a plan…”

Yes he does, faux wizard. Right out of the1980s. More voodoo economics and welfare for the wealthy.

Because it worked out so swimmingly for the middle class last time!

And you slogan spouters and Republisheep are gonna fall for it once again. Amazing. Too bad your kids and your neighbors always end up paying for your naivety and ignorance.

http://tinyurl.com/j9dkc

Dave R.

April 7th, 2011
6:22 am

AmVet, all this poutrage concerning the “middle class”.

I’ll ask the same question from last night. If our own benighted government Census Bureau says that the poor haven’t increased as a percentage of population in about 40 years, and many claim the “middle class” is shrinking, WHERE DID THEY GO?

Only one direction, AmVet.

And it ain’t down.

So, is our government mistaken? Are they lying to us? Or is all this faux poutrage over something manufactured just that?

Dave R.

April 7th, 2011
6:32 am

Oh, and one other note about those living in poverty.

After 40 years of social engineering, tinkering with our economy and unspeakable government deficits and debt, all in the name of “rising all boats”, the percentage of poor hasn’t decreased?

Good job!

It’s high time for the grown-ups to be in charge. Step one, November 2010. Step two, 2012.

AmVet

April 7th, 2011
6:40 am

An early good morning, Dave!

I’ve got to head out in a few minutes, so I’ll make this brief.

For the umpteenth time:

A huge percentage of American workers – nearly three out of four – make less in adjusted inflation dollars than they did three decades ago. Though their productivity has doubled.

We are the very first generation of Americans who as a majority answer no to the question, “Do you have it better than your parent’s generation?”

There are record numbers of middle class personal bankruptcies. The biggest reason? Catastrophic medical expenses.

There is massive unemployment and even greater under-employment. Not just companies, but entire industries and career paths have been outsourced to dirt-cheap labor overseas.

The chasm between the haves and have nots in America is wider than it was during even the Great Depression. And the disparity is getting bigger every day.

A relatively small handful of people (20%) now own 84% of the wealth in this country. At this rate, it is going to be 10% owning 94% of the wealth.

Nearly 80% of Americans believe corporations have too much control over their lives and over our government.

These are the facts and they spell more disasters like the one that brought us to the brink of ruin in September 2008.

We now live in de facto and de jure plutocracy.

The corporate destruction of capitalism.

Have a great morning, I’ll check back in later…

Whaheema

April 7th, 2011
6:41 am

Imagne your budget were 1600 out of balance. Your credit cards will soon be maxed out. If interest rates rise, your problem will get much much worse. So all the dems can cut is 4 bucks. They should all resign and let grown ups run the country.

USinUK

April 7th, 2011
6:54 am

unemployment 2.8% … baaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha …

“I’ll have what he’s having”

Bo Doodley

April 7th, 2011
7:00 am

….more Bookman hooey is more like it.

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
7:10 am

reprinted in its entirety (all five paragraphs, which is one more than I typically allow myself) because it needs to be seen, here.

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If you’re a Democrat in Congress, yeah, you’re probably appalled by Rep. Paul Ryan’s savage budget proposal (or you oughta be). But in your gut, there’s gotta be this little acid burn, this ember of envy, that, with the support of his leadership, Ryan just went balls out for the [stuff] that Republicans believe in. Because you know what would have happened if the situation was reversed.

If a Democrat had proposed a budget that radically cut the military, raised the top tax rate by nearly a third, ended all the wars, created a national health care system through a new payroll tax (thus relieving businesses of a huge financial burden), expanded EPA and food safety enforcement, and jacked up discretionary spending on education, scientific research, and more, and still yielded trillions of dollars in long-term savings, and then explained the document by saying, “This isn’t a budget. This is a cause,” do you think that that Democrat would have been hailed as “courageous” by any Republicans? Do you think that anyone in the media would have taken the thing seriously? Don’t be [bleep]ing stupid. What would have happened is that most Democrats would have run away like beaten bitches afraid of Rush Limbaugh’s switch, Republicans would have called it “un-American” and “the mostest radicalest budget that anyone has ever put out in the history of forever” and taken the word “cause” to mean “Marxist rape of your children,” and Fox “news” would have gone to TardCon 5 in demonizing everything: “Do you want the government telling you what diseases you can have? Do you want Barack Obama to decide how much [excrement] should be on your chicken?”

Paul Ryan’s budget is not a serious document. It is, instead, a few pages of dried ejaculate on paper. It is a wishlist out of every conservative wet dream, and, as such, it is ballsy just how brazen it is. If nothing else, you can’t say in the future that Republicans didn’t warn us. Ryan’s plan, his “Road Map,” sets the bar so low that it pretty much guarantees that Democrats will be negotiating away many of the programs they worked on for decades and then declare victory because they didn’t give in to everything Republicans wanted.

A decent comparison would be to imagine that you have grown a beautiful apple tree, but your neighbor wants it down so he can see the factory on the hill better. You say that you can trim the branches. He offers to cut down the tree, burn down your home, and kick you in the nuts. If you’re a Democrat, you figure if you can convince your neighbor not to kick you in the nuts, it’s a victory. If you’re a Republican, you say, “No, I’m still gonna kick you in the nuts.” If you’re Barack Obama, you offer your ass instead.

Instead of being treated like some brave hero facing the “real” problems in the nation, Paul Ryan should have been burned in effigy across America yesterday.

Normal

April 7th, 2011
7:21 am

Stands,
Good post…and true.
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Good Thursday morning all y’all…
Today’s history headlines…it was a good day in history for our Navy. This day in 1776, they captured their first British warship ever and in 1945 on this day the USN sank the battleship Yamato…

Also in the news on this day 1862 the Battle of Shiloh concluded, being the worst loss of life to date.
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Now to the point of it all, as Jay’s post proves…

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/04/06/funny-pictures-life-does-imitate-art/

Please notice the face of the imitator… :)

seabeau

April 7th, 2011
7:26 am

If I’m correct I believe this type of plan(trickle-down) worked for Prez. Ronald Rayguns.

USinUK

April 7th, 2011
7:40 am

Normal – great pic – :lol:

dB – as if you haven’t earned a standing O hundreds of times before, you definitely get one for posting the 7:10 link

Mick

April 7th, 2011
7:42 am

stands

Great post…..everyday it’s the same fight about our trillions and who’s to blame, americans have a deficit of short term memory. When one checks out ryans numbers they don’t add up but his ideological driven plan has already been praised by the cons as serious…it never ends..

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 7th, 2011
7:44 am

Dave

From your linkee @ 5:49…

Attorney General Martha Coakley, who prosecuted the men, asked that they be barred from working on Massport docks, but a judge denied her request.

I think it’s more on the judge than anything. As part of the sentence, they could have, and should have been barred from returning to work there. I don’t think that’s the fault of the union. Had the judge done that, there would be no story.

Buzz G

April 7th, 2011
7:46 am

Bookman and his leftist loonies don’t much care for trickle down wealth. They and their Democratic Party are much more adept at trickle up poverty.

USinUK

April 7th, 2011
7:47 am

“Bookman and his leftist loonies don’t much care for trickle down wealth”

because it doesn’t exist.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 7th, 2011
7:49 am

Paul Ryan’s budget is not a serious document. It is, instead, a few pages of dried ejaculate on paper. It is a wishlist out of every conservative wet dream, and, as such,

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I don’t think I could have even imagined something quite that graphic to describe Ryan’s budget, and I have quite a vivid imagination. Damn………

WOW

April 7th, 2011
7:49 am

“because it doesn’t exist.’

Oh like Ebonics? LOL

USinUK

April 7th, 2011
7:50 am

wow – yep. exactly like ebonics, which is also sweeping the nation.

bigot.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
7:51 am

“When one checks out ryans numbers they don’t add up”

So explain to us all the Obama alternative. Oh that’s right, there isn’t one.

It’s funny how left wingers are all in a tizzy over the GOP plan but they won’t discuss how the non existent Democrat plan as an alternative.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
7:51 am

“bigot”

Bookman, remember yesterday when you stated that you’d ban someone for name calling?

Thanks

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 7th, 2011
7:51 am

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/details-emerge-of-new-901039.html
A new Republican proposal to alter the state’s tax system gives more protection to middle-class filers who might have paid more in income taxes under a version of the plan pulled from consideration last week.

Critics say the new plan would leave the state with a $220 million budget hole to fill when the Legislature convenes next year.

I can’t believe we continue to elect such dipsh*ts with impunity. In the face of budget deficits for umpteen years, “We’re gonna give a tax cut and create even more deficit.” Why do we continue to allow such jackassery to propogate?

Bo Doodley

April 7th, 2011
7:51 am

How many of you have actually read every page of Ryan’s proposal? How many of you actually “ran the numbers” of Ryan’s proposal yourself?
Same Bookman blog garbage every day. GOP sucks, Democrats suck. You’re stupid, well, you’re ignorant…blah, blah, blah…..

WOW

April 7th, 2011
7:54 am

“How many of you have actually read every page of Ryan’s proposal?”

Same number who read the Obamacare plan. NOT MANY.

Remember Bo, most of these people never even went to college.

Normal

April 7th, 2011
7:54 am

I think there is a fine line between calling someone a name and telling the truth…just sayin’

WOW

April 7th, 2011
7:55 am

“I think there is a fine line between calling someone a name and telling the truth”

tick…..tick…..tick…….

USinUK

April 7th, 2011
7:55 am

“Bookman, remember yesterday when you stated that you’d ban someone for name calling?”

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!! they’re being meeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnn to me!!! just because I made a racial slur about the way black people talk!!!

wahwahwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
7:56 am

yep. exactly like ebonics, which is also sweeping the nation.

but but but one of WOW’s shower buddies presented ironclad evidence that some DEA guy advertising for a job opening mentioned fluency in ebonics as a must-have that one time, except that it wasn’t actually the job opening but some guy commenting on the job opening that he’d heard about.

isn’t that proof enough? why the sarcasm?

WOW

April 7th, 2011
7:56 am

Normal

Also, it’s funny how left wingers like UK are quick to call me a bigot when all I did was state the obvious. SOME black people speak in ebonics.

This Atlanta native speaks Ebonics on Marta. You may remember her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4mopN9nDIQ

TaxPayer

April 7th, 2011
7:57 am

I still have not quit laughing about the Heritage Koch Foundation’s prediction that Ryan’s Road Kill Map will lead us down the yellow brick road to 2.8 percent unemployment!!!!! Koch Coal Plants and formaldehyde manufacturing operations and such will be bidding against each other for precious employees. Everyone will be a billionaire, TAX-FREE! Life will be like a fairy tale, as written by those Grimm Brothers Koch. Tea Partyers, Rejoice!

Doggone/GA

April 7th, 2011
7:57 am

“his ideological driven plan has already been praised by the cons as serious”

Oh, it’s SERIOUS. It’s not workable and it won’t do what he claims he wants it to do, but make no mistake…it IS serious!

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
7:57 am

plan but they won’t discuss how the non existent Democrat plan

I support the Rude Pundit’s plan, outlined @ 7.10. For the record.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
7:57 am

“just because I made a racial slur about the way black people talk!!! ”

Since when is Ebonics a racial slur, USUK? Talk about gasping for air.

What racial slur did I make, USUK?

“wahwahwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh”

Tick….Tick….Tick…..

TaxPayer

April 7th, 2011
7:58 am

WOW! Some people speak in tongues.

USinUK

April 7th, 2011
7:58 am

“tick…..tick…..tick…….”

biological clock going off again, wow?

WOW

April 7th, 2011
7:58 am

“I support the Rude Pundit’s plan, outlined @ 7.10. For the record.”

The first two paragraphs pretty much rail on Paul Ryan.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
7:59 am

“biological clock going off again, wow?’

DIVERT DIVERT DIVERT

AGAIN, what racial slur did I make, USUK?

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
7:59 am

I don’t really have to reprint your crude attempts to ridicule African American dialect (and your nasty stereotyping of 13% of our citizenry as stupid and lazy by dint of their race), do I, WOW?

Because I will if I have to.

Or you could admit you were a douchebag and we can move on.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:00 am

“If you’re a Democrat in Congress, yeah, you’re probably appalled by Rep. Paul Ryan’s savage budget proposal (or you oughta be). But in your gut, there’s gotta be this little acid burn, this ember of envy, that, with the support of his leadership, Ryan just went balls out for the [stuff] that Republicans believe in.”

Stands, see what I mean?

Again, what’s the Democrat plan?

USinUK

April 7th, 2011
8:00 am

wow – “What racial slur did I make, USUK?”

sail phones = the way some african americans say cell phones

you knew it was a bigoted thing to say which is why you tried to weasel out of it (”I’m talking about Obama voters!”)

just because you have short-term memory problems doesn’t mean the rest of us do

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:01 am

“don’t really have to reprint your crude attempts to ridicule African American dialect (and your nasty stereotyping of 13% of our citizenry as stupid and lazy by dint of their race), do I, WOW?”

LOL!!!! I make an observation about how SOME black people say the word CELL phone and the left wingers get angry. Guess you gals can’t handle the truth.

“Or you could admit you were a douchebag and we can move on.”

Tick….tick…tick…..

Corey

April 7th, 2011
8:02 am

Those who don’t know and don’t know that they don’t are awful. Avoid them. Jay, that about sums up your sparring partners on this blog.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:03 am

“sail phones = the way some african americans say cell phones”

What’s racist about making an observation about the way a word is pronounced? You can take that PC crap and shove it. I don’t play the political correct game.

“you knew it was a bigoted thing to say which is why you tried to weasel out of it (”I’m talking about Obama voters!”)”

:LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

“just because you have short-term memory problems doesn’t mean the rest of us do”

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

Midori

April 7th, 2011
8:04 am

can’t you get something at the drug store or the vet to kill those ticks?

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:06 am

USinUK

Sounds like you’re insecure about the way some black people talk. If you want to make an observation about how some white people talk, go for it. Why, because I don’t really care.

It amazes me how insecure people are about their own race.

TaxPayer

April 7th, 2011
8:06 am

Boehner accused Obama of not leading but Obama has presented his budget. So, Boehner needs to get in line and follow Obama’s plan or deliver something else that Obama and the Senate will agree on. Of course, it would help if he delivered something that was not based on fantasies such as 2.8% unemployment from the Heritage Koch Club.

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
8:07 am

no, WOW. Here’s what you said about the “typical Obama voter.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2011/04/06/for-gop-budget-talks-are-all-about-getting-to-no/?cp=all#comment-559992

It’s not just about how you imagine others talk. It’s about how you imagine black folks are lazy. If that’s not bigotry, I don’t know what is.

And as for the Rude Pundit’s plan, try reading the hypothetical in the second graf.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:08 am

“Boehner accused Obama of not leading but Obama has presented his budget.”

So what’s his plan, Tax? All I hear from the president is whining about how mean the GOP is.

“It’s not just about how you imagine others talk. It’s about how you imagine black folks are lazy. If that’s not bigotry, I don’t know what is.”

Don’t see any racist rants, stands. I just made an observation.

“try reading the hypothetical in the second graf.”

I did, it’s drivel.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:10 am

stands

This is why I don’t take your crappy article seriously.

“Paul Ryan’s budget is not a serious document. It is, instead, a few pages of dried ejaculate on paper.”

Was that document written by a teenager? Geez, talk about disgusting crap.

Rob

April 7th, 2011
8:10 am

Every generation that fought a war paid for it with higher taxes. Our generation did not. Please stop saying that the morgage crises led to this debacle, not paying for our wars has led to this massive debt.

USinUK

April 7th, 2011
8:10 am

“It amazes me how insecure people are about their own race.”

you should stick with your “:LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!”s – they’re pretty much the only rhetorical skill you have.

“What’s racist about making an observation about the way a word is pronounced? ”

when you claim that it’s the way a word is pronounced BY ONE PARTICULAR RACE you make it a racist comment

bigot.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:11 am

A president teams up with a known racist to woo black people. THAT’s racist.

Obama teams up with Al Sharpton in New York to woo African-American voters ahead of 2012 election

Rob

April 7th, 2011
8:12 am

All. get off the racict rants and talk about the subject at hand!!!

Bo Doodley

April 7th, 2011
8:13 am

WOW, don’t waste your time. They’re not worth it.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:13 am

“they’re pretty much the only rhetorical skill you have.”

Says the person who wrote: wahwahwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

“when you claim that it’s the way a word is pronounced BY ONE PARTICULAR RACE you make it a racist comment”

No USUK, it’s called an observation. Again, take the political correctness and shove it.

“bigot”

What’s really sad about you is the fact that you resort to acting like a teenager and name call.

You must be what, 13 years old?

Rob

April 7th, 2011
8:13 am

We Americans are so easily distracted by name calling and quickly forget what we really need to talk about!!!

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:14 am

“WOW, don’t waste your time. They’re not worth it.”

Nah, they need to be called out, Bo. Especially the name calling British wannabe.

“All. get off the racict rants and talk about the subject at hand!!!’

That’s what I’m trying to argue with stands. His “democrat” document is garbage.

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
8:15 am

Was that document written by a teenager?

uh, yeah. It’s the hip new sound, daddy-o.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:16 am

“We Americans are so easily distracted by name calling and quickly forget what we really need to talk about!!!”

Rob, when most of the name calling comes from the left, they need to be called out on it.

Anyhoo, I’ve asked repeatedly for left wingers to discuss what the Democrat plan is. Instead, nothing, nada, zilch.

Instead, they make fun of Paul Ryan. That’s what left wingers do. They name call, divert, and blame Bush for everything.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:17 am

“uh, yeah. It’s the hip new sound, daddy-o.’

Funny that you expect people to take seriously a document that says Paul Ryans budget is that of a dry ejaculated piece of paper.

EPIC FAIL.

Rob

April 7th, 2011
8:18 am

WOW, You make yourself look like a 13 year old when you continue to post petty aurguments. Americans need to realize that we are becoming a nation of scardy cats. We only look after ourselves and forget about our fellow Americans. I ask everyone to stretch out thier hand and help a fellow American up.

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
8:19 am

EPIC FAIL.

if you liked that latest bit from the Rude Pundit. you’re gonna la-la LOVE this one.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:20 am

“You make yourself look like a 13 year old when you continue to post petty aurguments.”

Oh, so when I’m called a bigot etc I’M the 13 year old? LOL

“Americans need to realize that we are becoming a nation of scardy cats.”

Yeah, we have a president who is leading the scardy cat charge.

Rob

April 7th, 2011
8:21 am

Wow,

President Bush missed a great opportunity to unite our country after 9-11 but instead he told everyone to return to their normal lives and continue to shop. He should of asked us to prepare to make some sacrifices to keep American safe.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:21 am

“if you liked that latest bit from the Rude Pundit. you’re gonna la-la LOVE this one.”

No, I’m not into calling women degrading names like C&NT.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 7th, 2011
8:22 am

Wonderig where Keith Olbermann was:

Here he is And hes got more Worse Persons video clis.

I love his laugh at President Michelle Bachmann!

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:22 am

Rob

WTF does 911 have to do with the current budget problem?

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:23 am

“Wonderig where Keith Olbermann was:”

Looks like he’s working out of someone’s apartment. LOL

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:23 am

“And hes got more Worse Persons video clis.”

Wonder if PMSNBC misses him.

Rob

April 7th, 2011
8:24 am

Wow,

The media has you scared to go downtown, to a street party, to pick up a hitchhiker, or to take a homeless person to lunch. We only hear about the bad people in our country. It’s time to turn off the TV and our computers and see with our own eyes.

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
8:25 am

hee hee. He actually clicked the link.

my work is done here.

Rob

April 7th, 2011
8:25 am

WOW,

We did not pay for the wars. We borrowed money for them. You must raise taxes to pay for Wars.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:25 am

“The media has you scared to go downtown, to a street party, to pick up a hitchhiker, or to take a homeless person to lunch.”

Hi Rob, have we officially met? Because you seem to know me even though we haven’t.

“It’s time to turn off the TV and our computers ”

So why are you here blogging from a computer?

Bob

April 7th, 2011
8:25 am

Who cares about debt, at least the dems have given us jobs.

Normal

April 7th, 2011
8:25 am

Good plan, USinUK,

Keep making him use up all his posts… :D

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:25 am

“We did not pay for the wars. We borrowed money for them. You must raise taxes to pay for Wars.”

Have fun with that one, Rob.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 7th, 2011
8:26 am

sfd…you’re the man!

Mick

April 7th, 2011
8:26 am

stands

The rude pundit cracks me up, I’m a fan…

Paul

April 7th, 2011
8:26 am

WOW

Did you get Harry’s permission to co-opt his theme song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSklX1Hs324

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To the rest of the posters:

Try the Amish way:

http://tinyurl.com/3ev52vc

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:26 am

“Keep making him use up all his posts”

We’re over 500, Normal. I’m here for the long haul. :)

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:27 am

“Did you get Harry’s permission to co-opt his theme song?”

Who is Harry?

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:27 am

“The rude pundit cracks me up, I’m a fan…

So you’re a fan of degrading women. Nice.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 7th, 2011
8:28 am

Normal…we’re over 500 on this so have to wait for clean sheets for a count….but did you notice he has to number them now because he could not count. But that has got to be the fault of some billionaire teacher.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:28 am

Hey where’d UK go?

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:29 am

“Normal…we’re over 500 on this so have to wait for clean sheets for a count….but did you notice he has to number them now because he could not count. But that has got to be the fault of some billionaire teacher.”

Keep, you have IQ of a carrot. :)

Rob

April 7th, 2011
8:29 am

WOW.

I only blog about once a week for about thirty minutes. I don’t agree with every President Obama does but I did like the fact that he put the cost of the Wars in his budget, not asking for supplementals as the year went by.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 7th, 2011
8:30 am

Midori, if your around, care to tell us about how you feel about the poutrage of a poster who cheers someone who degrades a woman….. Myself, I think the poster just wants to create fights which is why the child has been limited on his posts already.

Finn McCool

April 7th, 2011
8:30 am

Fox Drops Glenn Beck
Ding-dong! The demagogic host announced his departure from Fox News Wednesday, but not before likening himself to Paul Revere.

Wow, when FOX News thinks your a ding bat and it’s time to go, you know you’re probably the nutiest of the nutters.

Normal

April 7th, 2011
8:31 am

Quick Jay,
reset the topic! ;)

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
8:32 am

The rude pundit cracks me up, I’m a fan…

He’s the only guy I know who can knock out a line like “Fox ‘news’ would have gone to TardCon 5 in demonizing everything” and make it work in context.

by the way, you owe it to yourself to at least listen to his weekly appearances on the Stephanie Miller show, archived here:

http://rudepundit.podbean.com/

unsurprisingly, in person, he comes off as a sweet-tempered, nice fella.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 7th, 2011
8:33 am

Finn, and this is the same channel that thinks Ryan is a genius!

Paul

April 7th, 2011
8:33 am

Finn

I think it’s more about the dollars from advertisers and the audience demographics, not what’s coming from their mouths.

Otherwise they’d have dropped Hannity lonnnnnnnng ago.

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
8:34 am

when FOX News thinks your a ding bat and it’s time to go

I’m sure it had nothing to do with perceptions of dingbattery and 99% to do with what the bean counters projected would be the net ad revenues if they were to renew his contract.

A lot of people made a lot of noise about the unsuitability of sponsoring his program, and for once, the effort seems to have worked.

argh. I seriously gotta leave this time-suck. Later, all.

USinUK

April 7th, 2011
8:34 am

Normal – 8:25 – talk about “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”

oy.

stands for decibels

April 7th, 2011
8:35 am

and Paul, get outa my brain and stealing my thoughts. Thank you.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:35 am

“Finn, and this is the same channel that thinks Ryan is a genius!’

It’s the same channel the drives left wingers to talk about them 24/7. They must be doing something right.

“Otherwise they’d have dropped Hannity lonnnnnnnng ago.

Why, he’s has the second highest ratings of any cable news outlet.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 7th, 2011
8:35 am

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:36 am

“Myself, I think the poster just wants to create fights which is why the child has been limited on his posts already.”

Says the guy who talks about pooping unicorns.

WOW

April 7th, 2011
8:37 am

“you know you’re probably the nutiest of the nutters.”

Like how PMSNBC got rid of Crybaby Olbermann.

Paul

April 7th, 2011
8:38 am

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 7th, 2011
8:38 am

talk about “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”

Who f@rted?