The Ryan budget plan, Part III: More trickle-down
In “The Path to Prosperity,” House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan makes it clear that tax increases will not be part of the solution to the nation’s fiscal problems. He intends to address the problem solely through budget cuts, most of them focused on programs affecting the elderly, the sick and the poor. After all, that’s where the money is in the federal budget, especially when you exempt the Pentagon from spending cuts, as Ryan proposes to do.
“The U.S. government is not running sustained deficits because Americans are taxed too little,” the plan states. “The government is running deficits because it spends too much.”
However, that sentiment doesn’t mean that Ryan intends to leave the tax code untouched. Among other things, he proposes to reduce the number of tax brackets from the current six, which would make the income tax flatter and less progressive. He also intends to lower the top tax bracket on individuals and corporations from the current 35 percent to 25 percent.
Inevitably, such changes would have the effect of lowering taxes on corporations and the wealthy, while shifting more of the burden to working and middle-class Americans. When combined with the payroll tax, which Ryan concedes is a surtax on earned income below $106,000, a large number of working class and middle-class Americans would probably end up paying a significantly higher percentage of their income in federal taxes than their wealthier counterparts.
I say “probably” because as far as I can tell, Ryan hasn’t released specifics of his tax reform proposal to the public. He did, however, provide considerable detail to the Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis to allow it to project the economic impact of the proposed changes. So let’s see what they have to say.
Overall, Heritage projects, the Ryan budget proposal would produce an outcome that frankly would be nothing short of miraculous, including an increase in economic output of $1.5 trillion over the next ten years. That in turn would help drive down the federal deficit considerably.
But how real is it? Unlike projections by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the Heritage analysis relies on what is called “dynamic scoring.” In other words, it programs its computer models to assume that tax cuts on the wealthy and corporations produce enormous economic growth.
For example, let’s take a look at what dynamic scoring does to the projected unemployment rate. The CBO projects that the unemployment rate next year will average 8.4 percent. The Heritage Foundation, using dynamic scoring, projects that if the Ryan plan passes, unemployment would plummet next year to 6.4 percent.
By 2015, the CBO projects, unemployment will be down to 5.9 percent. Under the Ryan plan, Heritage projects it will fall to a remarkable 4.0 percent, declining still further to 2.8 percent in 2021.
2.8 percent?
Who believes that? Nobody believes that. In fact, those projections are so embarrassingly absurd that Heritage itself has gone back into its study and removed them. They were there in the version I downloaded yesterday; they are gone from the version available today.
In this case, Heritage can make ridiculous claims for the economic benefits of Ryan’s plan — claims that help account for the supposed deficit reduction — without fear of those claims being tested against reality. Nobody believes that the plan will ever be adopted.
Ten years ago, however, the Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis ran similar projections for President Bush’s plan to cut taxes, using the same computer model it used to analyze Ryan’s plan.
Heritage claimed that if the Bush tax cuts were approved, the economy would grow so quickly that by 2010, the entire federal debt would effectively be eliminated.
Not only that, “The plan would save the entire Social Security surplus and increase personal savings while the federal government accumulated $1.8 trillion in uncommitted funds from FY 2008 to FY 2011, revenue that could be used to reform the Social Security and Medicare systems and reduce the payroll tax,” Heritage claimed.
Well ….
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Kamchak
April 6th, 2011
10:06 pm
Adam
TMI
Just sayin’.
Jackie
April 6th, 2011
10:07 pm
@Adam
Have those who disagree compare UPS or FedEx to the Postal Service.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/shopping/shopping-tips/fedex-vs-ups-vs-the-postal-service/overview/package-delivery-services-ov.htm
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:07 pm
“Unlike you, I can think for myself.”
You tow the party line.
Del
April 6th, 2011
10:08 pm
Taps…y’all have a great evening.
AmVet
April 6th, 2011
10:08 pm
The Beckerhead was just the latest in a long line of talking head snake oil salesmen.
Like televangelists and carnival barkers they make their living off of the naive and easily duped.
Trust me, they’ll find another one to replace him…
Adam good for you!
Just know there are risks…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VshBT5Ua4uo
killerj
April 6th, 2011
10:10 pm
Good,not to mention all the people with no homes because of misappropriate of funds for the past 30 years because of liberal views like yourself jay,shut it down,it,s best for the majority,less Government mean,s more money in my pocket,thats what its all about right ? ………Go Tea Party.
@@
April 6th, 2011
10:10 pm
Adam:
Okey Dokey! Just don’t go beyond the 10 year gap. All women, regardless of sexual preference, are capable of being mothers. Moms dating men young enough to be their sons is just ICK–imo!!
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2011
10:11 pm
Thulsa
That isn’t what I meant. One 1950 dollar would buy what would cost $8.33 today. The purchasing power of the 1950 dollar was worth approximately 8 times what todays dollar is.
Doggone/GA
April 6th, 2011
10:12 pm
“the conversation was about wealth in relation to debt, now it is about just the Clinton era tax rates…….not the same thing”
When did I say it was? Unlike some, I am actually capable of discussing more than one thing at a time..and something as complicated as our economy cannot be narrowed down to a bumper sticker
USMC dawg
April 6th, 2011
10:13 pm
Two George Soros Events Aim to Remake the Financial Order and the Media
— So Where’s the Reporting?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/04/06/george-soros-events-weekend-aim-remake-financial-order-media-wheres-reporting/#ixzz1IncvgDBQ
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/04/06/george-soros-events-weekend-aim-remake-financial-order-media-wheres-reporting/
Adam
April 6th, 2011
10:13 pm
AmVet ahahahahaha!
@@: I don’t mind a little attention. I do mind being told to grow up and what to do with simple decisions.
Thulsa Doom
April 6th, 2011
10:14 pm
Mick,
Yes. You’re right. SS could be fixed with a couple simple changes. And as a con I do agree that we should take the cap off the FICA tax asap.
The fees you would pay to manage your own money pale in comparison to what you would earn- and besides Congress could cap what financial svc firms could charge in fees.
SS was indeed designed as a safety net only but there are too many people who think its supposed to be their retirement.
And I disagree that it was brilliantly designed. The framers of it should have had enough common sense to know that demographics change and that as societies advance that people would be living longer and retiring earlier.
Mongo
April 6th, 2011
10:15 pm
The little GOPiggies better get ready for the backlash…here it comes.
Mick
April 6th, 2011
10:16 pm
dusty
It’s kind of comical to read you and dave r slamming ole jay bookman, last I heard he wasn’t forcing anyone here or demanding that they follow lockstep with his perspective. There’s both an art and science to crafting words into a column, in my opinion bookman is in the top tier of his profession. Many keep asking why I’m here if I live in miami, simple the miami herald does not have a columnist of bookman’s caliber. Hiassen is good but only writes a sunday column. I’ve been reading a newspapers cover to cover ever since the dolphins went undefeated in 72. The AJC is a pretty good read…
@@
April 6th, 2011
10:16 pm
The purchasing power of the 1950 dollar was worth approximately 8 times what todays dollar is.
That’s because of all the funny money floating around out there…..somewhere.
(IW&SH)
I’m off.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:18 pm
YEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We’re well over 500 comments!!!
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:20 pm
Looks like the left wingers are arguing over some very stupid subjects.
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:20 pm
I think beck getting fired is a win for the Pros (Progressives) and another loss for the cons.
Pros vs cons.
Score one for the Pros.
Mick
April 6th, 2011
10:20 pm
doom
As I’ve said before, once us boomers die off, that big curve will be eliminated. As far as medicare goes, that is the 800lb. gorilla in the room. That is where I definately don’t want to burden the younger folks because it is not sustainable in present form…
Thulsa Doom
April 6th, 2011
10:20 pm
I hear someone in the background making nose about Beck. I think I’ve watched bits and pieces of 3-4 of his shows and that’s about it. He kinda bores me.
But what I always take notice about his detractors saying things like “The Beckerhead was just the latest in a long line of talking head snake oil salesmen.Like televangelists and carnival barkers they make their living off of the naive and easily duped.”
The reason I take notice is that not one time have I even seen any of his detractors provide tangible, specific proof of Beck giving lying or false info. Not once have I seen it. A lot of hyperbole over what the man says but no specifics as to why he’s wrong- just rhetoric. And you know what they say- boolsheet walks.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 6th, 2011
10:20 pm
Adam: Oh, does that mean you’ll stop that whole “Obama isn’t leading” garbage?
——————–
Of course not. He’s not leading on anything. He’s a punter.
Oh, and you do understand the difference between leading a government and its bureaucrats, and motivating/inspiring people, right?
Worthwhile people are motivated and inspired by great things and great people. Not by government tools.
Doggone/GA
April 6th, 2011
10:22 pm
“because it is not sustainable in present form…”
No, it isn’t…but I wouldn’t be surprised if it isn’t, ultimately, a single-payer system that “fixes” it.
RW-(the original)
April 6th, 2011
10:23 pm
Just don’t go beyond the 10 year gap
Is it OK to go beyond that limit in the other direction?
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:23 pm
“I think beck getting fired is a win for the Pros (Progressives) and another loss for the cons.”
Even with Beck leaving FOX, PMSNBC is still trailing in every category. Is CNN still around?
Thulsa Doom
April 6th, 2011
10:23 pm
getalife,
Not sure about Beck but I think he quit voluntarily. In any event he’s not going away so don’t get too excited. He’ll be out there exposing liberalism soon enough.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:23 pm
“As far as medicare goes, that is the 800lb. gorilla in the room. ”
Oh, so now we’re discussing Micheal Moore.
Mick
April 6th, 2011
10:24 pm
lbb
I used to punt back in the day. If I did my job correctly and nailed the punt, the defense would take care of the rest.
Trendy Times
April 6th, 2011
10:25 pm
Some trends show up over a short time or spatial horizon while others take a longer time or greater displacement in order to observe them. An obvious example would be the rotation of the earth about its axis versus it orbit about the sun. Another would be the roughness of a surface versus its waviness.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:25 pm
Thulsa Doom
Beck didn’t get fired. I love how the left wingers are salivating over Beck leaving. Guess they don’t realize that O’Reilly and Hannity are still destroying everyone at PMSNBC.
Oh, and Rush still averages 40 million listeners per week.
Mick
April 6th, 2011
10:26 pm
**Rush still averages 40 million listeners per week.**
More like 14 million, still very impressive…
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:26 pm
HILARIOUS!!!!!
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie Calls His State’s Teachers Union ‘Political Thugs’
MPercy
April 6th, 2011
10:27 pm
Speaking of Warren Buffet and his complaints about not being taxed enough…
Mr. Buffet has arranged to donate 85% of his fortune to charity (the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation). The donation to the Foundation will alleviate Mr. Buffet from paying, literally, billions of dollar in taxes. These are taxes Mr. Buffet has worked to avoid in structuring his gift the way he has.
What has Mr. Buffet avoided? I’m not a tax specialist of any sort, but let’s consider if he had simply died today with his holdings intact (i.e., had he not given the money before he died). His estate tax this year would amount to over $13B (35% times $37.4B). That’s $13 not going to the Treasury due to Mr. Buffet’s keen tax avoidance strategy.
Mr. Buffet also has shorted the taxman by donating appreciated stock. This is an assumption on my part, but it known that the majority of Mr. Buffet’s wealth is represented by his ownership of Berkshire-Hathaway stock, on which he has huge unrealized capital gains, so I have assumed he made his donation by donating that appreciated stock directly, as this has the effect of minimizing Mr. Buffet’s taxes.
By donating the appreciated stock, Mr. Buffet avoids paying capital gains taxes on a large part of that $37.4B. I once tried to estimate Mr. Buffet’s basis in BRK from SEC filings, but I can’t locate my numbers now (switched to a new computer and need to sort through the backups). Let’s say his basis is half (it was much smaller than that, I do recall that). Had Mr. Buffet simply sold his stock, paid the CG taxes, and donated the remainder, he would have paid nearly $3B (again, this is very conservative).
But it’s even better. By donating appreciated stock, Mr. Buffet gets to claim the appreciated amount on his taxes, so he gets a $37.4B deduction against his other earnings. There are limitations on this of course, but you get the idea.
Why did Mr. Buffet go to all this effort to avoid paying all these taxes? Clearly he believes that maximizing his donation to the charity is a more effective use of his money than had the government been given their cut.
So, Mr. Buffet: from one lowly worker bee paying a higher rate than you (claim to pay) please shut up about your too low tax rates. You had plenty of chances to pay more, and did everything in your power to avoid doing so. You don’t want the Government to have more of your money than I do.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:27 pm
“More like 14 million, still very impressive…”
LOL!!!!! I guess Mick can’t comprehend 40 million.
AmVet
April 6th, 2011
10:27 pm
Mick, hysterical huh?
These rude ingrates insult the host all the time. I presume their mommas didn’t raise them right.
Well, for once, my timing is perfect.
Now that the auto-responder is here, I’m out. Got a very early start tomorrow…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EoQVaQGXmM
Mick
April 6th, 2011
10:28 pm
**New Jersey Governor Chris Christie**
Speaking of 800lb gorilla…
Trendy Times
April 6th, 2011
10:28 pm
NOW the Republicans want Obama to lead them around by their noses. Works for me. Obama presented a budget and since the Republicans want him to lead them, they simply need to accept what he has already given them.
lynnie gal
April 6th, 2011
10:28 pm
The current crop of hard right wingers is balls to the wall all-out attack on everyone except the rich and corporations now. Let’s see–first they attack blacks, then gays, then hispanics, then muslims, then teachers, then police and firemen, then college professors, and now elderly, in addition to their usual hate for liberals and the poor, the environment and science. I guess next they’ll go after people’s pets.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:29 pm
“These rude ingrates insult the host all the time. I presume their mommas didn’t raise them right. ”
tick…..tick…..tick……..
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:29 pm
“Let’s see–first they attack blacks, then gays, then hispanics, then muslims, then teachers, then police and firemen, then college professors, and now elderly, in addition to their usual hate for liberals and the poor, the environment and science. ”
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Mick
April 6th, 2011
10:29 pm
wow
Got a source for that 40 million?
Trendy Times
April 6th, 2011
10:30 pm
Who’s Beck. Didn’t he play guitar or something in a 70s band.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 6th, 2011
10:31 pm
Put down the Koolaid, lynnie.
Trendy Times
April 6th, 2011
10:32 pm
Guard your koolaid, lynnie. I think Lil’ Barry Bailout may be eyeing it.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 6th, 2011
10:32 pm
That Kloppenburg is one angry b^tch!
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:33 pm
“Got a source for that 40 million?”
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:34 pm
The Pros got beck and walker fired in the same day.
cons lose lil bar.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 6th, 2011
10:35 pm
Kloppenburg looks like Uncle Leo after Elaine drew in his eyebrows with a Sharpie.
MPercy
April 6th, 2011
10:35 pm
getalife @10:20 pm I think beck getting fired is a win for the Pros (Progressives) and another loss for the cons.
Seems to me to be completely consistent with Conservative values. Mr. Beck’s job was to draw viewers to the network. His audience is down nearly 50% from its high of 2.2M viewers a little more than a year ago. He is not doing his job as well as his employer expects, so when his contract comes to an end, both sides have determined that he needs to find other employment.
As it should be.
Or would you prefer he goes crying to a union? Or sue?
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:35 pm
wow,
rush?
Seriously?
Are you trying to be funny?
Mick
April 6th, 2011
10:36 pm
wow
That’s not a source, just his warped webpage which I scan daily, sometimes its downright humorous but most of the time it’s just pig headed stupid….
Billings
April 6th, 2011
10:36 pm
It’s sad when all the libs have to celebrate is GB’s departure.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:37 pm
“That’s not a source, just his warped webpage which I scan daily, sometimes its downright humorous but most of the time it’s just pig headed stupid….”
Your problem, not mine.
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:37 pm
MPercy,
beck had no advertisers because the Pros waged war to end them.
The Pros won.
It is obvious.
Admit it.
Mick
April 6th, 2011
10:37 pm
**It’s sad when all the libs have to celebrate is GB’s departure.**
How can one celebrate something they never watch?
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:38 pm
“How can one celebrate something they never watch?”
So why are the left wingers writing about him?
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:39 pm
Not sad for the Pros.
Winning.
Duh.
Mick
April 6th, 2011
10:39 pm
Hasta la vista baby…..
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:40 pm
I won’t be baaack.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:40 pm
“Not sad for the Pros.”
getalife, there’s a remedial English class with your name on it.
MPercy
April 6th, 2011
10:40 pm
According to the AJC last year:
For the fourth year in a row, Rush Limbaugh is the most influential radio talk show host, according to Talkers magazine.
Limbaugh draws at least 15 million listeners a week. He remains the top-rated show on 640/WGST-AM. He’s had a field day going after Pres. Obama and the Democrats this past year. And he continues to be influential without the benefit of Fox News, which has fueled the growth of No. 2 host Sean Hannity (14 million weekly radio fans and two to three million viewers per night on Fox News) and No. 3 host Glenn Beck (9 million-plus listeners on radio and two to three million viewers per night on Fox News).
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:41 pm
“According to the AJC last year:’
There’s your sign.
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:41 pm
Come on wow.
Pros vs cons.
That is original stuff.
Trendy Times
April 6th, 2011
10:42 pm
GB’s departure. George Bush has been gone since ‘08. Try to leave him in the past where he can do no more damage to the USofA.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:42 pm
Has Rachel Madcow decided if she’s a man or a woman? He/She dresses like a teenage boy.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:43 pm
Whatever happened to Keith Olbermann?
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2011
10:43 pm
MPercy @ 10:27
Well said. I’m currently reading a biography on Andrew Carnegie and I find a lot of parallels between him and Warren Buffet.
Carnegie was giving away his fortune, with great fanfare, while cutting the pay and increasing the hours of his employees. His testimony in the 1912 anti-trust suit against U S Steel Corporation was pure fantasy.
Nite all.
Dusty
April 6th, 2011
10:44 pm
Mick,
Back somewhere you expressed your devotion to Bookman. It is true he knows how to stir up a fuss on a blog. It is an art for him, words out of context, selective comments without followup, facts & graphs from liberal sources, and the use of “idiots” to describe anyone of differing opinions. He is the love of liberals because of his one view direction and he never fails you.
He has killed the old idea that “you know it is true because you read it in the news”. It aint so with Bookman. What you read is one sided blog-stirring liberalism and that is what you like.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:45 pm
Dusty
The Braves are losing. What’s up with that?
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:45 pm
Obama using the bully pulpit again.
He works long hours.
Trendy Times
April 6th, 2011
10:47 pm
The Braves are losing.
And you read it here first on the Bookman blog. The blog where you can go for the truth, no matter how much it hurts.
WOW
April 6th, 2011
10:47 pm
Well, looks like the left wingers left.
Night all.
MPercy
April 6th, 2011
10:49 pm
getalife @10:37 pm MPercy, beck had no advertisers because the Pros waged war to end them.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen his show, so I’m not defending on any sort of fanship. But I never said anything about advertisers. I said he lost *viewers*. You think progressives got viewers to tune out, too?
But speaking of advertisers, “Among the advertisers to pull spots from the popular cable talk show are Geico, owned by Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A 122,724, -376.00, -0.31%) (BRK.B 81.99, -0.05, -0.06%) ; Procter & Gamble (PG 61.76, +0.09, +0.15%) ; Sargento Cheese; and Progressive Insurance (PGR 21.46, +0.01, +0.05%) , according to the companies and Color of Change, one group that is organizing a campaign against the program.”
Given the notable left-leaning ownership of some of these companies, why were they advertising on his show in the first place? I guess they were not too proud or too anti-conservative or too anti-capitalist to ride his coattails to put their products in front of the viewers he once drew in an effort to increase their own profits.
Again, seems quite in line with Conservative principles.
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:52 pm
Wow,
Main Entry: acerbate
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: exasperate
Synonyms: aggravate, annoy, disturb, perturb, provoke, rattle one’s cage
Main Entry: anger
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: make someone mad; become mad
Synonyms: acerbate, affront, aggravate , agitate, annoy, antagonize, arouse, bait, blow up, boil over, boil, bristle, burn, burn up, chafe, craze*, cross, displease, egg on, embitter, enrage, exacerbate, exasperate, excite, fret, gall, get mad, get on one’s nerves, goad, incense, inflame, infuriate, irritate, lose one’s temper, madden, make sore, miff, nettle, offend, outrage, pique, provoke, raise hell, rankle, rant, rave, rile, ruffle, seethe, steam up, stew, stir up, tempt, umbrage, vex ”
That is you.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 6th, 2011
10:53 pm
Reid looks old, tired, and beat down. Boehner looks fit and ready to fight for the American people.
Obozo looks like his usual ignorant, smirking self.
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:54 pm
Good mercy percy,
He called the President a racist.
Take some personal responsibility and admit it.
It will not hurt.
getalife
April 6th, 2011
10:56 pm
lil bar,
Looks?
You can do better con.
Doggone/GA
April 6th, 2011
10:58 pm
“You can do better con”
Don’t ask for the impossible…especially this late at night
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 6th, 2011
10:59 pm
Just giving my impression of the just-concluded press conferences with the three. To sum up:
Reid: Loser.
Boehner: Strong defender of the American people’s interests.
Obozo: Clueless punter.
getalife
April 6th, 2011
11:01 pm
Sounds partisan bar and weak.
Get some sleep and hope you find a job soon.
Bless your poor bitter heart.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 6th, 2011
11:04 pm
I don’t need a second job, geta. The one I’ve got pays OK, heh heh.
Midori
April 6th, 2011
11:04 pm
I saw the complete opposite – Boehner looks like a scared, frightened, out-of-his-league puppet.
He’s scared to death of offending the tea nuts.
And it’s funny as h$ll
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 6th, 2011
11:07 pm
Regardless of how it turns out, spending is by damn going to get cut. And that’s a win for Americans.
Midori
April 6th, 2011
11:10 pm
regardless of how it turns out, the top 1% will bleed us dry even more, which is a win for them.
especially when they are aided and abetted by their ignorant, repulsive cheerleading sheep — who they have taught to love, envy and support them. No matter the cost to them.
MPercy
April 6th, 2011
11:13 pm
getalife @10:54 pm Good mercy percy, He called the President a racist.
So? He’s not entitled to his opinion? I’ve seen hundreds of postings on Jay’s blog alone since the beginning of this year where someone is calling someone else racist. Usually it’s someone arguing from the left calling someone arguing from the right a racist. It’s often a very unfair slur, albeit not the worst one thrown around.
And, again, it seems to me perfectly reasonable that advertisers ditched him for what he said. It’s his right to say it, it’s their right to ditch his show, and it’s Fox’s right to not renew his contract. All as it should be.
All very capitalistic and conservative sounding to me.
getalife
April 6th, 2011
11:25 pm
Good point Midori.
Bad spin Percy.
Jefferson
April 6th, 2011
11:26 pm
This cat Ryan is an idiot if he thinks that will go anywhere. Americans want services from the gov’t, thats what taxes are for.
Adam
April 6th, 2011
11:43 pm
On Beck’s departure, that just means someone in power at Fox News Channel has a brain. As for the whole ratings thing, having MSNBC trailing by ratings means nothing, if it’s still the second highest rated network. That means it’s still got viewers, plenty enough of them. It also means more people get brainwashed onto the conservative/Tea Party side than on the liberal side.
How’s that liberal media meme working out for ya?
TnGelding
April 6th, 2011
11:51 pm
I stopped taking him serious when he said it would pay off the debt. The nation will always be indebted to Mr. MBA/USA and the Gypper.
TnGelding
April 6th, 2011
11:55 pm
Maybe we can get some whitewash and a toupee for Obama so he’ll be acceptable to some here. That’s not to say I’m pleased with his performance.
Bookman's Brain
April 6th, 2011
11:56 pm
Scamulus trick didn;t trickle down either did it jay bob
TnGelding
April 7th, 2011
12:10 am
The stimulus worked just as expected.
Get Real
April 7th, 2011
12:32 am
Midori…you should by a new TV as the one you have obviously has a bad picture if that is what you saw..
Get Real
April 7th, 2011
12:35 am
TnGelding “The stimulus worked just as expected”
What??? Stop drinking now, it is too late for that as it is apparently affecting your cognitive reasoning skills….
Get Real
April 7th, 2011
12:36 am
Adam rrrrright; NOT
Gandalf, the White
April 7th, 2011
4:34 am
At least Ryan has a plan, much more than Barry!
Gandalf, the White
April 7th, 2011
4:39 am
Barry is off running for President again, so let the lies begin. How many lies did he tellL
Close GITMO..
get us out of Iran and Arghanistan..
Recovery would keep unemployment less that 8%…
Any one who still supports him is either an idiot or socialist that wants the country to fall..
Dave R.
April 7th, 2011
5:49 am
And for those who continue to mindlessly defend public sector unions, this little ditty:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0407dock_scammers_still_on_payroll/srvc=home&position=0
Dave R.
April 7th, 2011
5:53 am
TnGelding: “The stimulus worked just as expected”
Yep. Just as badly as the adults expected it would.
stands for decibels
April 7th, 2011
5:56 am
the headline reads: Obama, Congressional Leaders Narrow Differences, Still No Agreement
I believe that’s Beltway-speak for “You’re gonna get rolled big-time, America.”
stands for decibels
April 7th, 2011
6:02 am
probably just paranoid, but I’ve heard the theory advanced that all this political theater is just a prearranged bit to set us up for what the two main guys from the Catfood Commission wanted to do to us a few months back.
Ryan was sent out there to push an absurdly extremist approach so that Simpson and Bowles would seem “reasonable” and less baldly fraudulent, perhaps.
Alternative theories are welcome.