U.S. military balks at promised Afghan drawdown
Military leaders and President Obama’s civilian advisers are girding for battle over the size and pace of the planned pullout of U.S. troops from Afghanistan this summer, with the military seeking to limit a reduction in combat forces and the White House pressing for a withdrawal substantial enough to placate a war-weary electorate.
Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top allied commander in Afghanistan, has not presented a recommendation on the withdrawal to his superiors at the Pentagon, but some senior officers and military planning documents have described the July pullout as small to insignificant, prompting deep concern within the White House.
At a meeting of his war cabinet this month, Obama expressed displeasure with such characterizations of the withdrawal, according to three senior officials with direct knowledge of the session. “The president made it clear that he wants a meaningful drawdown to start in July,” said one of the officials, who, like the others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to share internal discussions….
Two senior military officials said one set of options being developed by staff officers in Kabul involves three choices: the removal of almost no forces; the withdrawal of a few thousand support personnel, including headquarters staff, engineers and logisticians; and the pullout of a brigade’s worth of troops — about 5,000 personnel— by culling a battalion of Marines in Helmand province that was added after the surge, a contingent of soldiers training Afghan security forces and an Army infantry battalion in either the country’s east or far west.
I don’t blame Petraeus and other military leaders for trying to keep as much manpower as possible in Afghanistan. They’ve fought hard and sacrificed a lot for whatever progress they’ve been able to make, and they naturally don’t want to see it all evaporate.
But in the end, it’s not their decision, and it shouldn’t be. I don’t know how much time is enough time, but I do know the tenth anniversary of our invasion of Afghanistan is coming up. I don’t know how much money is enough money, but at this point it’s costing us $120 billion a year. And I don’t know how many American lives this is all worth, especially given the dismal performance of the Afghan government that we’re trying to defend. But last year we lost 499 soldiers and Marines, in that cause, and another 73 have been killed so far this year, with the spring fighting season yet to begin.
It’s time to start drawing down. It’s time to start handing Afghanistan’s fate back to its people.
– Jay Bookman
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Normal
March 31st, 2011
3:33 pm
Dave R.
March 31st, 2011
3:18 pm
Mick: “USCG count?”
Only after you take the wheels off the bottoms of your boats!
____________________________________________
Only a Sailor can talk like that to the Coast Guard…
To the Navy, the Coast Guard is like a little sister… 
Thulsa Doom
March 31st, 2011
3:33 pm
I’m out for now after providing Jackie with something called a FACT.
getalife,
Quit your whining little girl. Somebody just questioned AmVet’s math because it didn’t add up with his service account. Just STFU and go sit in your corner. Your posts are all weak, inane, and completely lacking in substance.
Paul
March 31st, 2011
3:34 pm
Woodstock 3:16
That was good –
Mick
You bet it does.
Dave R.
Army recruit finished his 20-mile march, collapsed and said “I love this s%1t.” Ranger parachuted into mountains at night, navigated 30 miles by the stars carrying an 80 pound pack, got to his objective and said “I really love this s%!t.” Marine recon jumped from a helo into a swamp, slogged 10 miles mapping enemy displacements, stayed out in the field for three days, took the 30-mile route home, grinned and said “this is the best s%!t in the world.”
Air Force fighter pilot flies a 2-hour mission, checks into the Q, kicks the A/C to 68, grabs a beer from the fridge, clicks the remote at the tv and says ‘no cable?!!? What is this s%!t?!!?”
Fred
March 31st, 2011
3:34 pm
BMDPD = USN Retired
March 31st, 2011
3:31 pm
The funny thing is that the Liberals in ole Hollywood try to glamourize the single mother. Don’t you just love it?
========================
Glamorize it? They have transformed them into some sort of sacred cow God category. Life f’ing a loser who runs off from his responsibilities is a GOOD thing. Oh, and BMDPD? You have to type it correctly, when you speak of the sacred cows, you have to use all caps. SINGLE MOM.
BMDPD = USN Retired
March 31st, 2011
3:35 pm
Keep, how do you know he served honorably?
How do you know he is not one of the many faking a disability to get money from Uncle Sam?
Just askin?
stands for decibels
March 31st, 2011
3:35 pm
HD, @ 3.26, I’ll second your notion about jackassery having no particular political affiliation.
I wouldn’t be the first to notice that this character seems to bring out an uncharacteristically harsh streak in you. I actually thought about this a bit. At the risk of prying a bit—is it possible that it’s due in no small part because he continues to label his pathetic cult a “Baptist” church?
I only ask, because I can only imagine the rage *I* would feel if my own family’s denomination were sullied in such a fashion, by such a scoundrel.
AmVet
March 31st, 2011
3:36 pm
USCG count?
Yes it does, and rock on brother Mick.
You took that oath and put your ass on the line too.
MIKE, you don’t have to apologize. I’m a hot head about numerous things. But especially veterans. And I despise gultess turds like thelma who don’t respect anybody, including themselves.
Thanks, George. You’re a good man for saying so.
Jackie, no sir, I salute you. You, Del, Popeye and Scout (among others) are the big boys I’ve always looked up to.
And for my fellow airman Dave R.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGigYvztqHE&feature=related
(Keep you word and just go away @@. You’re a complete embarrassment.)
And with that, I’m done discussing all matters military for today..
WOODSTOCK MIKE
March 31st, 2011
3:36 pm
@Stand for Decibels
I do not associate Fred Phelps with all Democrats. Just to be clear, I just wanted to mention he was a Dem. He’s clearly a wack job and I can agree with you on that for sure. My whole point was let’s not try and confuse which party supports the military more because there is no comparison to be made. Even Obama can’t salute the soldier when he gets off Air Force One, his salute is the most pathetic salute of all times…
Normal
March 31st, 2011
3:37 pm
The Marines get to dig foxholes when there is incoming mail, the Air Force gets to flay away from triple A, the sailor has to hunker down on his ship when the cruise missles come in.
Real Scooter
March 31st, 2011
3:38 pm
Imagine that! No hot food! I’ll tell ya’, the hardships I had to endure . . .
Dang Dave,I feel sorry for you. I could get a hot meal 24/7.
The worst day I had in uniform was when those hippies were shooting peace signs at me!
@@
March 31st, 2011
3:39 pm
Come to think of it…it could’ve been a circular saw or circular table saw I taught my neighbor’s godson to use. The blade is circular and pulled down onto a table.
I don’t know the names of tools, I just know how to use most of ‘em.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
3:39 pm
…………… and they fight the sea even when there is no war.
http://www.uscg.mil/history/uscghist/USCGSBKIA.asp
stands for decibels
March 31st, 2011
3:39 pm
Just to be clear, I just wanted to mention he was a Dem.
There’s absolutely nothing good that can come from making such a claim in this context. It can only lead downhill.
Even Obama can’t salute the soldier when he gets off Air Force One, his salute is the most pathetic salute of all times…
like, say, the above.
BMDPD = USN Retired
March 31st, 2011
3:39 pm
Heck, didn’t Kerry basically call military folks stupid a few years ago?
md
March 31st, 2011
3:40 pm
Have to say that for somebody that calls everyone that disagrees with him/her “con”, saying others are “sick” is a bit rich……………..
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
3:40 pm
Normal:
Marines dig “fighting holes” not “fox holes”.
Foxes hide in holes.
The Army digs foxholes.
Real Scooter
March 31st, 2011
3:40 pm
Paul
March 31st, 2011
3:34 pm
stands for decibels
March 31st, 2011
3:41 pm
Heck, didn’t Kerry basically call military folks stupid a few years ago?
well no, he didn’t. But that didn’t keep unscrupulous people from misquoting his mildly botched one liner (about Bush “getting us stuck in Iraq”) and claiming it meant something that it didn’t.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
3:41 pm
I’ll second your notion about jackassery having no particular political affiliation.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 31st, 2011
3:41 pm
BMDPD… I am willing to accept their word for it on this blog, just as I am willing to accept you word that you are an actual adult despite posts that suggest rather childish posting. If someone posts something later that calls that into serious question, I’ll learn to deal with it just as we have had to deal with child on this blog
@@
March 31st, 2011
3:41 pm
AmVet:
You’re a complete embarrassment.
Externalizing again, are ‘ya?
It’ll never fix what ails you.
I’ve gotta go pick up some tape.
jm
March 31st, 2011
3:42 pm
Scout 3:40
WOODSTOCK MIKE
March 31st, 2011
3:42 pm
@Stand for Decibels
Pardon me for pointing out a fact, he is a Democrat. And if I believe that Obama is not one of the most military supportive presidents that is my opinion. You should respect that.
Jordan
March 31st, 2011
3:42 pm
My son is a US Marine and he just got back from Afghanistan Tuesday. He said its hopeless. The Afghans police and personnel he worked with will never be good for anything. They are just going through the motions. We can stay there a 100 years and it will be just like it is now. Stop the insanity and get the hell out.
BMDPD = USN Retired
March 31st, 2011
3:42 pm
Keep, What childish posts? Show me his DD-214, that will tell me all I need to know about him.
Tommy Maddox
March 31st, 2011
3:44 pm
So, for all those clowns that claimed Iraq and Afghanistan was started for the benefit of BP and Haliburton, I had no idea that Obama held stock in those companies.
williebkind
March 31st, 2011
3:45 pm
I hate Jane Fonda!
George W
March 31st, 2011
3:45 pm
Jordan….I agree how ever I am not sure that getting out will make it better.
@@
March 31st, 2011
3:45 pm
stands:
Before I leave. What matters most is that the troops believed that John Kerry thought they were stupid.
Probably had something to do with Kerry’s own military record and their lack of respect for HIM!!!!
BMDPD = USN Retired
March 31st, 2011
3:45 pm
Keep, you stick up for him because he is on your side! You can be kicked out for drugs or breaking the law, but you are still a vet!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 31st, 2011
3:45 pm
BMDPD….do cite for us all the requirement that AmVet or any other poster show you any “papers” as a requirement to express their opinion? Do I have to poit out the terms of service like I had to yesterday for the clown child?
WOODSTOCK MIKE
March 31st, 2011
3:46 pm
If the Afghan people are unwilling to take this opportunity and make the most of it we need to stop losing the lives of our military. If they do not embrace the change we need to get the hell out of that dreadful place.
Real Scooter
March 31st, 2011
3:46 pm
That would be a mitre saw @@.
jm
March 31st, 2011
3:46 pm
Jordan, GW – leave 10-15k troops (special forces +), drones, air support and some artillery to play whack a mole with the bad guys and keep them in check. Bring the rest home.
Make it unsafe for them, but cut the US and military family costs.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 31st, 2011
3:47 pm
BMDPD…really? Try Scout Zero….he’ll tell you I dont agree with much of the nonsense he posts but I respect his service.
BMDPD = USN Retired
March 31st, 2011
3:47 pm
Am Vet, I am not questioning your service or the integrity of your service. I am making a point that anyone can be anyone they want to be on a blog.
George W
March 31st, 2011
3:47 pm
Jm….may not be a bad solution.
stands for decibels
March 31st, 2011
3:50 pm
What matters most is that the troops believed that John Kerry thought they were stupid.
well, I guess if you can find two guys in uniform who believe that, you can claim “the troops” did. Sure.
getalife
March 31st, 2011
3:50 pm
Punch them in the nose AmVet.
Amazing what happens when you do.
williebkind
March 31st, 2011
3:50 pm
This is the result of a war where you do not make war so horrible that men, women, and children fear for their lives every minute of every day. You fight the war like we did WWII or we do not fight at all. No more Koreas, Viet Nams, and Afghanistans. Just remember when you save the lives of their children you are taking the lives of your children. That is not a good swap for any religion.
md
March 31st, 2011
3:51 pm
“Do I have to poit out the terms of service like I had to yesterday for the clown child?”
High or low road? Didn’t your previous post say something about posting like a child??
jm
March 31st, 2011
3:51 pm
GW – problem is, we need a base in Afghanistan from which to operate. If we draw down, I see it as likely they will try to eject us completely.
Playing whack-a-mole from aircraft carriers is not terribly feasible. So it will probably take massive financial payments instead. Of course, it can’t cost more than what we’re spending now.
jm
March 31st, 2011
3:52 pm
getalife 3:50 big talk for a 6th grader
WOW
March 31st, 2011
3:52 pm
Well, it’s officially over 500 posts.
Braves win so it’s off to a good start for Fredi Gonzalez!
BMDPD = USN Retired
March 31st, 2011
3:53 pm
Senator John Kerry
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq!”
If that is not degrading to the military, then I don’t know what is!!!!
getalife
March 31st, 2011
3:53 pm
“getalife 3:50 big talk for a 6th grader”
I know you are but what am I ?
Nanananana.
md
March 31st, 2011
3:53 pm
“If the Afghan people are unwilling to take this opportunity and make the most of it we need to stop losing the lives of our military.”
Why should they, they have the US military out front doing it for them………much like some of the dependence in this country………
WOW
March 31st, 2011
3:53 pm
“And I despise gultess turds like thelma who don’t respect anybody, including themselves.”
What’s a gultess turd? Vet, again, spell check is your comrade.
“Punch them in the nose AmVet. ”
Nothing like advocating violence from the “tolerant’ left.
George W
March 31st, 2011
3:54 pm
jay….how much do you make off of each post?
BMDPD = USN Retired
March 31st, 2011
3:54 pm
willieb, you are right. You can’t win a war via politically correct means. You have to be mean, ruthless and not care about public opinion.
getalife
March 31st, 2011
3:55 pm
Did you get paid more for 500 wow.
Give me some of that money
Joe Cool
March 31st, 2011
3:55 pm
Not good news for the cons:
BOSTON (Reuters) – Young voters, who were crucial to President Barack Obama’s election in 2008, have not soured on him and now support the Democrat in greater numbers than in the fall, according to a Harvard University poll.
The survey also showed that young voters worry most about the economy, and still turn to traditional news outlets for political coverage.
In the latest iteration of Harvard’s Institute of Politics poll of 18 to 29 year olds, 55 percent of the so-called Millenial Generation approve of Obama’s job performance, up by six percentage points from the previous poll in October.
About 10 million Latino voters cast ballots in 2008. And with 500000 new voters joining the rolls every year, as many as 12 million Latinos expected to vote come 2012.
stands for decibels
March 31st, 2011
3:55 pm
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq!”
His one liner was missing the word “us”, as in, “you get us stuck in Iraq.”
He was, of course, speaking about GW Bush.
But you go right on believing what you like
Kamchak
March 31st, 2011
3:55 pm
This is the result of a war where you do not make war so horrible that…
Chinggis Khaan, arguably one of the most ruthless conquerors known couldn’t take Afghanistan and it was in his back yard.
AmVet
March 31st, 2011
3:56 pm
Am Vet, I am not questioning your service or the integrity of your service. I am making a point that anyone can be anyone they want to be on a blog.
No offense taken, sailor.
I’d never doubt your’s or anyone elses. Kansas naivety? Also, my mom taught me to look for the good in people, not the bad.
The biggest majority of people here are cool, and for the most part, even though we fuss and fight like a dysfunctional family, we get along OK. Especially during Friday Night Music, when we put down our ideological swords and pick up an instrument/sing along. Check it out sometime. It’s big fun and the music, of all genres, rocks.
A tiny few are ignorant POS’s.
What can ya say?
As Paul noted earlier, it’s a microcosm of real life…
stands for decibels
March 31st, 2011
3:56 pm
Anyway, I’d love to hang around and see whatever symptoms materialize from Kerry Derangement Syndrome, but more producin’ awaits. Later, all.
WOW
March 31st, 2011
3:57 pm
Just 21% Say U.S. Has Clearly Defined Mission in Libya
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2011/just_21_say_u_s_has_clearly_defined_mission_in_libya
WOW
March 31st, 2011
3:57 pm
“Also, my mom taught me to look for the good in people, not the bad.”
Then
“A tiny few are ignorant POS’s.”
Guess your mom didn’t teach you common sense.
Fred
March 31st, 2011
3:57 pm
@@
March 31st, 2011
3:39 pm
Come to think of it…it could’ve been a circular saw or circular table saw I taught my neighbor’s godson to use. The blade is circular and pulled down onto a table
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sounds like a miter saw.
WOW
March 31st, 2011
3:58 pm
“The biggest majority of people here are cool, and for the most part, even though we fuss and fight like a dysfunctional family, we get along OK. ‘
Yeah, it’s just that most of the time you spend it calling people trolls, humpers, racist nazi bigots etc.
jm
March 31st, 2011
4:00 pm
WOW. War of the Worlds?
AmVet
March 31st, 2011
4:00 pm
getalife, I did love your observation about punching blog bullies in the nose and then watching them cry.
Speaking of non-stop crybabies, someone tell the out-of-control auto-responder, its a euphemism…
getalife
March 31st, 2011
4:00 pm
“Yeah, it’s just that most of the time you spend it calling people trolls, humpers, racist nazi bigots etc.”
Sensitive.
md
March 31st, 2011
4:00 pm
sfd @ 3:55,
That explanation makes no sense………Kerry knows GWB graduated from Yale and Harvard…..to make that change is just silly.
jm
March 31st, 2011
4:00 pm
WOW. Or. War of Words?
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:00 pm
“Young voters, who were crucial to President Barack Obama’s election in 2008, have not soured on him and now support the Democrat in greater numbers than in the fall, according to a Harvard University poll.”
A Harvard poll. The same Harvard that Obama got into with affirmative action. Gee, imagine that.
Fred
March 31st, 2011
4:01 pm
1811/1801 – 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
3:40 pm
Normal:
Marines dig “fighting holes” not “fox holes”.
Foxes hide in holes.
The Army digs foxholes.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I’m sick scout so I’m gonna cut you a break on that. I didn’t meet the qualifications to get in the Marines: my parents were not only married, but they weren’t brother and sister…………..
BMDPD = USN Retired
March 31st, 2011
4:01 pm
sfd, we know what he meant to say. He said what he really thinks! What was that shrink’s name, Sigmond Fraud? Kerry, he had one of them “Fraudian Slips”.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
4:01 pm
jm
Seems like the GOP has gone full in on the prepetual political war….
In a closed door caucus meeting today, a source who was present tells me, Speaker John Boehner reassured Republicans nervous about the ongoing budget standoff with Dems by vowing to “kick their ass.”
“If we stick together and keep the pressure on the Democrats, we’re going to win this fight,” Boehner told assembled Republicans, according to the source. “We’re gonna kick their ass.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/boehner-on-dems-were-gonna-kick-their-ass/2011/03/03/AFzJf73B_blog.html
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:01 pm
“Sensitive.”
Nope, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.
getalife
March 31st, 2011
4:02 pm
AmVet,
That is twice.
Knockout in the third round.
These trolls are boring.
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:02 pm
“I did love your observation about punching blog bullies in the nose and then watching them cry.”
How does one watch a blogger cry?
“Speaking of non-stop crybabies, someone tell the out-of-control auto-responder, its a euphemism…”
Dodge, duck, dive, divert, dodge.
BMDPD
March 31st, 2011
4:03 pm
Good for Boehner! Rahm E. would have never said anthing like that, huh?
AmVet
March 31st, 2011
4:03 pm
“Fraudian Slips”.
LOL, that’s great!
I may have to Joe Biden that one from you, BMDPD…
jm
March 31st, 2011
4:03 pm
SoCo 4:01- well, its hard not to sympathize with him after the Dems came out with their gameplan to call the Republicans extreme. At least he didn’t say “we’re going to lie about these people and call them radicals”. He just said: we’re going to beat them. That’s the arena and the Dems took the gloves off first.
BMDPD
March 31st, 2011
4:04 pm
Ya’ll Americans have a good day!
BMDPD, out!
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:05 pm
“Does getalife ever have a single thing of revelance to say? ”
No. Not one single thing.
getalife
March 31st, 2011
4:06 pm
So how much do they pay you wow for 500 posts?
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
4:06 pm
jm
A true statesman would respond with the truth and sensible talk and not lower himself to fighting in the mud. I guess that’s why we have no true statesmen in elected office and are stuck with damned politicians.
Del
March 31st, 2011
4:07 pm
Scout@3:40…I have a few doggie buddies who would have some fun with those words. I won’t provide any samples. ISFH
jm
March 31st, 2011
4:07 pm
WOW 4:05 – second that.
Wazza WOW stand for? inquiring minds wanna know.
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:07 pm
“So how much do they pay you wow for 500 posts?”
This is getalifes theme song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpRiSb_Ir-s
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:09 pm
“Wazza WOW stand for? inquiring minds wanna know.”
I believe Debbiedoright and I had this discussion one day. She sent me a page of what WOW could stand for but I forgot which one I picked.
jm
March 31st, 2011
4:09 pm
SoCo – statesmanship, such as it exists, only occurs in the Senate. Sometimes.
I like Boehner and I think he’s a really good guy at heart and doing what he thinks is best for the country. As a matter of fact, I’d venture to say most (ok, maybe only 2/3 or less) people are there for that reason, at least initially, both Dem and Repub.
But as a body, they’re an unholy mess.
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:10 pm
“Go marlins”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!! The Marlins!!!!!!!!! They can’t even pay people to watch that team play.
carlosgvv
March 31st, 2011
4:11 pm
Southern Comfort
You have to go way back in American History to find true statesmen in elected office. That we do not now is a big part of the dumbing down of America.
Real Scooter
March 31st, 2011
4:11 pm
I’ve had all the fun I can stand for one day yall.
Bring the troops home and give the survivers a parade that they deserve!
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
4:11 pm
Damn, Jay, nearly 900 posts on a single thread for the day..Was gibt’s?
On topic: it’s time to wind down on that one in Afghanistan…turn it over to some other democratic state to police the place,
And otherwise I see it’s the afternoon insult fest, so, here I be…
BTW
GBI at school today doing their investigation…wheee…your tax dollars at work…
Fred
March 31st, 2011
4:11 pm
Actually Kam, Genghis Khan did conquer Afghanistan. He just wasn’t able to stamp out Islam or hold it long.
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:13 pm
“Bring the troops home and give the survivers a parade that they deserve!”
The libs would spit on them like they did to Vietnam Vets.
jm
March 31st, 2011
4:13 pm
For anyone interested in the Streets of Buckhead. Good news and details.
The Streets of Buckhead will still be an upscale mixed-use project with two high-rise apartment buildings. And no hotels. That’s the vision shared by the new owners of Atlanta’s most talked about stalled retail project. OliverMcMillan will continue to pursue a mix of luxury and specialty retailers for the project but declined to name any specific tenants. He was quick to say the look would be a “village” concept versus “trying to create a … version of Rodeo Drive.” Hunter says OliverMcMillan should be closing on the property in Q2 with construction commencing by year’s end. Aside from the apartment towers, the project will include 350k SF of retail and 40k to 50k SF of office space.
Joe Cool
March 31st, 2011
4:13 pm
“The same Harvard that Obama got into with affirmative action. Gee, imagine that.”
Smile, you dont wear hater well.
Spend some time working on that 12M Hispanic voting block you cons will have to contend with and the 18 to 29 year olds block also.
You do know that in 4 years, some of those OLD GOP voting block kicked the bucket,
while the 18-29 continue to thrive.
Cons, you got your work cut out for ya.
USMC dawg
March 31st, 2011
4:13 pm
“I’m sick scout so I’m gonna cut you a break on that. I didn’t meet the qualifications to get in the Marines: my parents were not only married, but they weren’t brother and sister…………..”
LOL!
USMC= Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children.
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:13 pm
Gasoline up 100% under Obama
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/mar/30/gas-prices-double-under-obama/
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
4:14 pm
jm
There’s pols, on both sides, that I think are there for the right reasons. I think it’s the outside pressure that turns them all into sh*t-for-brains.
carlos
Those days are long gone, and I don’t think we’ll see them again.
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
4:15 pm
WOW
“Yeah, it’s just that most of the time you spend it calling people trolls, humpers, racist nazi bigots etc.”
Every family has its rotten apples…
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:15 pm
“Spend some time working on that 12M Hispanic voting block you cons will have to contend with and the 18 to 29 year olds block also.”
Bush did pretty darn well with the Hispanic vote. Besides, if there are no jobs why would they vote for Obama?
“while the 18-29 continue to thrive.”
Yeah, they thrive by living at home with their parents.
“Cons, you got your work cut out for ya.”
BWAHAHAHHHAHAHAAHA
WOW
March 31st, 2011
4:16 pm
“Every family has its rotten apples…”
So you’re admitting Vet is a rotten apple.
poison pen
March 31st, 2011
4:17 pm
Jordan, Just seen your earlier post about Afghanistan and I agree 100% with you, please tell your son thank you for his brave service.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
4:18 pm
USMC= Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children.
I haven’t heard that one in a while. Reminds me of my cousins joking on each other at family gatherings. No service component was spared…..