U.S. military balks at promised Afghan drawdown

From The Washington Post:

Military leaders and President Obama’s civilian advisers are girding for battle over the size and pace of the planned pullout of U.S. troops from Afghanistan this summer, with the military seeking to limit a reduction in combat forces and the White House pressing for a withdrawal substantial enough to placate a war-weary electorate.

Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top allied commander in Afghanistan, has not presented a recommendation on the withdrawal to his superiors at the Pentagon, but some senior officers and military planning documents have described the July pullout as small to insignificant, prompting deep concern within the White House.

At a meeting of his war cabinet this month, Obama expressed displeasure with such characterizations of the withdrawal, according to three senior officials with direct knowledge of the session. “The president made it clear that he wants a meaningful drawdown to start in July,” said one of the officials, who, like the others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to share internal discussions….

Two senior military officials said one set of options being developed by staff officers in Kabul involves three choices: the removal of almost no forces; the withdrawal of a few thousand support personnel, including headquarters staff, engineers and logisticians; and the pullout of a brigade’s worth of troops — about 5,000 personnel— by culling a battalion of Marines in Helmand province that was added after the surge, a contingent of soldiers training Afghan security forces and an Army infantry battalion in either the country’s east or far west.

I don’t blame Petraeus and other military leaders for trying to keep as much manpower as possible in Afghanistan. They’ve fought hard and sacrificed a lot for whatever progress they’ve been able to make, and they naturally don’t want to see it all evaporate.

But in the end, it’s not their decision, and it shouldn’t be. I don’t know how much time is enough time, but I do know the tenth anniversary of our invasion of Afghanistan is coming up. I don’t know how much money is enough money, but at this point it’s costing us $120 billion a year. And I don’t know how many American lives this is all worth, especially given the dismal performance of the Afghan government that we’re trying to defend. But last year we lost 499 soldiers and Marines, in that cause, and another 73 have been killed so far this year, with the spring fighting season yet to begin.

It’s time to start drawing down. It’s time to start handing Afghanistan’s fate back to its people.

– Jay Bookman

937 comments Add your comment

George W

March 31st, 2011
4:18 pm

WOW and Getalife….1 out of every 9 18-29 black males are in prison…I dont think we have to worry about them.

poison pen

March 31st, 2011
4:19 pm

Isn’t Harvard the same University that threw the Army Recruiter out? so were to believe a Liberal school, Riiiigggght!

WOW

March 31st, 2011
4:20 pm

“1 out of every 9 18-29 black males are in prison…I dont think we have to worry about them.”

George, do you have me mixed up with a left winger? I noticed you wrote something sarcastic to me this morning.

WOW

March 31st, 2011
4:21 pm

“Isn’t Harvard the same University that threw the Army Recruiter out?”

Yes.

josef nix

March 31st, 2011
4:22 pm

jm

Some of us just wish Streets of Buckhead would fall flat as a flitter…

WOW

“Admit” AmVet is a rotten apple? I’d venture he takes pride in the label…he should!

Get Real

March 31st, 2011
4:22 pm

The liberal progressive dribble is out in force today. Obama has lost the independents and that is what won him the election. That is not to say he could not win them back but as of this moment he is down and out…

WOW

March 31st, 2011
4:24 pm

New thread upstairs.

“Obama has lost the independents and that is what won him the election. ”

Yep, he has.

“That is not to say he could not win them back”

He won’t.

Joe Cool

March 31st, 2011
4:25 pm

“Bush did pretty darn well with the Hispanic vote. Besides, if there are no jobs why would they vote for Obama?”

Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2004, he got only 35% in 2000
Obama 67% (2008)

There were NO jobs in 2008 and we were losing almost 800k a month and they still voted 67%.
As the economy continues to grow, those numbers will grow.

“Yeah, they thrive by living at home with their parents.”

And health insurance up til their 26 :-)

George W

March 31st, 2011
4:26 pm

WOW…no i know you stand for the good.

James

March 31st, 2011
4:26 pm

For once I agree with Bookman. BRING THEM ALL HOME, NOW!!

Get Real

March 31st, 2011
4:28 pm

Wow…to me the biggest factor is that before the 2008 election Obama for the most part was an unknown commodity. Well, that ship has sailed, now people have clear insight as to what the man is and more precisely isn’t

WOW

March 31st, 2011
4:28 pm

“As the economy continues to grow, those numbers will grow.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!

Kamchak

March 31st, 2011
4:28 pm

Actually Kam, Genghis Khan did conquer Afghanistan. He just wasn’t able to stamp out Islam or hold it long.

Not during his lifetime according to the maps I have seen.

Despite his ruthless reputation, he was known to be tolerant of all religions and knowing that his people were nomadic in nature, chose locals to be governors of his conquered lands.

Evidently he was quite randy also. Just about everyone in the environs of modern Ulaanbaatar shares his DNA.

Jordan

March 31st, 2011
4:30 pm

poison pen

March 31st, 2011
4:17 pm

Jordan, Just seen your earlier post about Afghanistan and I agree 100% with you, please tell your son thank you for his brave service.

Thank you I will tell him. He had sent me a picture with him and some of his fellow marines with two or three Afghan police and he told me the Afghan guys in the picture were all dead. I asked what happened to them. Seems they took a IED into the police headquarters to disarm it. They cut the top cord but not the bottom cord and it blew them all to hell.

Joe Cool

March 31st, 2011
4:34 pm

As the economy continues to grow, those numbers will grow.

“HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!”

Numbers dont lie.
Unemployment is down
The new jobs report is going to make you look bad (approx. 210,000 added for March)
But I know for a con, that bad news.

Smile, you dont wear hater well. :-)

WOW

March 31st, 2011
4:36 pm

“Unemployment is down”

9% is down? LOL

“The new jobs report is going to make you look bad (approx. 210,000 added for March)”

LOL!!!!!!!!!! Link please.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 31st, 2011
4:37 pm

Fred:

LOL !

A.R.M.Y. (AIN’T READY to be a MARINE YET)

George W

March 31st, 2011
4:40 pm

WOW….he doesnt get…..Joe wants to defend his king at all costs.

Get Real

March 31st, 2011
4:42 pm

Joe Not Kool……I certainly want the economy to come back as it does no one any good for it to remain anemic. However, we disagree on the compelling factor to the recovery. It is not Obama and the runaway Democratic spending train rather it is the fact that Republicans won the House in a historic landslide have started to plug the leaks in our hemorrhaging debt and deficits…

George W

March 31st, 2011
4:47 pm

George W

March 31st, 2011
4:49 pm

Isnt it funny that no one on this blog has mentioned bill SB-5 that was passed in Ohio today……Bye bye unions!

@@

March 31st, 2011
5:10 pm

SoCo:

In response to my story, you said:

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Good story, although I’m thinking that some here wouldn’t buy it because it doesn’t fit their opinion and/or outlook.

In a coupl’a ways, it does:

Anyhoo, the program placed certain demands on the participants. They were required to pay $5.00 a week for childcare. If they didn’t, they were to be expelled from the program. It never happened…government programs never follow thru with consequences.

When the girls had been suspended, they were required to show up at the church and care for their own children. Again…they were to be expelled from the program if they didn’t. They didn’t but were never expelled.

By not following thru with consequences, government cripples. The number allowed into the program was/is limited. When 17 out of 18 girls think it oughta be free, it’s possible that other girls like the one I mentioned, were left to slip thru the cracks. What a shame, when it’s girls like her that could have contributed more positively…served as a more positive role model.

Bottom line? In order for government to be seen as necessary, they serve as accomplices in creating dependents, or dependence, if you will.

The only way we can improve the situation is to not be an accomplice to government’s wrong doing. It’ll be hard…some who speak out will suffer verbal attacks. In the long run though, everyone will be the better for it.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 31st, 2011
5:23 pm

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Well made points, and I agree. What the citizens should do is take their anger out on the politicians and not each other when the government fails to do what it’s supposed to do. I have no problem with holding people accountable for their actions. I found out long ago that when you drop the hammer a few times, everyone else gets the idea. They either fall in line and follow the rules, or they removed themselves from the situation.

I can have a heart of gold when needed. However, I have no problems with enforcing rules to the letter, even if it means making difficult choices.

Lil' Barry Bailout

March 31st, 2011
5:38 pm

Mo. to drop extended benefits for unemployed

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – Thousands of people in Missouri who have been unemployed for more than a year soon will lose their jobless benefits, marking a significant victory for Republican fiscal hawks who are crusading against government spending.
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A little fiscal sanity restored. Americans are putting an end to the gravy train for folks who choose not to work.

@@

March 31st, 2011
5:51 pm

SoCo:

Well made points, and I agree.

I’m glad to hear that. One party encourages independence, the other offers everything but…

Most giveaways are offered up by the DNC and I don’t think their intentions are altruistic in nature. I think their intention is to build on their political power and nothing more.

That’s the way I see it and only because I care.

Tundra Dude

March 31st, 2011
7:03 pm

AmVet@12:49 wrote:

Famous people born on this day:

1596, Rene Descartes, he thought, therefore he was.
1732, Joseph Haydn, composer, helped develop the Classical style.
1809, Edward FitzGerald, writer, “Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam.”

and ME & Al Gore……if ida known, wudda gladly stayed in for another day or 2…..

Adam

March 31st, 2011
7:26 pm

George W: I don’t have time to go through 10 pages of posts to find out George W, but did you ever get back to me on what part of Obama’s Birth Certificate is in question and why?

Lil' Barry Bailout

March 31st, 2011
8:38 pm

The Idiot Messiah’s birth certificate hasn’t been made public so every part of it is in question.

Adam

March 31st, 2011
9:31 pm

LBB: I see you too failed to read the article

Lil' Barry Bailout

March 31st, 2011
9:40 pm

We’ve Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

More Americans work for the government than in manufacturing, farming, fishing, forestry, mining and utilities combined.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704050204576219073867182108.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
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Takers = Parasites.

Lil' Barry Bailout

March 31st, 2011
10:18 pm

Unless the Idiot Messiah’s original birth certificate is included in whatever article it is that you’re talking about, it doesn’t matter.

Smyrna

March 31st, 2011
10:20 pm

“U.S. military balks at promised Afghan drawdown”

Gee, I always thought the President of the United States was the Commander in Chief of our military forces. When the President starts taking orders from the generals, or allows them to disregard his instructions, the nation is in serious trouble.

Not a huge Obama fan here, but he either needs to insist that his orders are followed to a tee or send some rogue generals to early retirement. He’s already done it once.

Adam

March 31st, 2011
10:39 pm

LBB: So you basically are just making an excuse for not reading it. It DOES include the original certificate. Now go read it.

Adam

March 31st, 2011
10:43 pm

Here, read THIS JKL2.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2010/apr/28/allen-west/west-says-nearly-half-americans-pay-no-taxes/

ALL of it now, don’t get stuck on some part of it you LIKE while avoiding the rest.

Adam

March 31st, 2011
10:43 pm

Eep, wrong thread…

TnGelding

March 31st, 2011
11:49 pm

It’s time to lick our wounds and mind our own business! And oh yeah, rebuild our treasury.

Gandalf, The White

April 1st, 2011
12:56 am

Barry lied,
American Soldiers Died!

IMPEECH THE LIAR