In Japan, a grisly consequence of radiation

First item. Unfortunately I had. Grisly and sad indeed.

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WOW, stfu with the Bush/Obama for once. THIS blog subject has nothing to do with either.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to Japan!

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“WOW, stfu with the Bush/Obama for once. THIS blog subject has nothing to do with either.”

Peadawg, make me.

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Those workers are real heroes…

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It may be that here in the US any future nuclear plants will be built far away from the ocean and nowhere near any earthquake faults. It’s no secret that oil will eventually run out and wind, solar and water power don’t look as though they will be able to replace all of that lost energy. So, in the years to come, either we learn to live with a good bit less power, or we build a large number of nuclear plants. I hope that future improvements in technology will prove me wrong.

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Peadawg

Japan and it’s citizens have an almost herculean task ahead of them on their road to recovery. A country with vast land resources could probably absorb this incident. However, Japan doesn’t have the space. I’ll continue to pray for them.

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“For what”

for being a PITA

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god works in mysterious ways, you’d think we could have a nuclear accident somewhere in the ME!

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It’s all George Bush’s fault!

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Sounds to me as if all future plants should be built over a deep pit full of water…….problems like this arise and flush the whole plant down the hole………….and cover it up.

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SoCo
“I’ll continue to pray for them…”

Likewise.

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AmVet

“Without constant attention, he’ll wither and die”

A delicate flower…

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WOW

For the record, I like having you around…

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josef, you truly are the King of EOIs!

BTW, PBS had a heartbreaking special about that killer earthquake last night.

As always, their intense coverage of any topic is top notch…

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God bless all the first responders…..

Seems to me whether at the World Trade Center, the Federal Building in OK, Japan’s nuclear plant – they behave with the utmost in dignity, character and bravery.

God Bless them everyone.

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jonix 4:42 – herehere

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Well said, Granny…

We tend to take them, and law enforcement, for granted.

Until…

It’s hard to believe that the diesel engines that run the entire plant cooling system could be so easily compromised. And the back up batteries only provided 8 hours of power.

I’m not playing backseat driver here, and I know the design is older, but WTF?

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Libya is not Rwanda

http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/30/libya_is_not_rwanda

The president made it clear in his speech that the U.S.-led war against Libya is primarily motivated to prevent a humanitarian catastrophe. “We were faced with the prospect of violence on a horrific scale,” he said. “To brush aside America’s responsibility as a leader and – more profoundly – our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are. Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different.”

This gives credence to the reports that Hilary Clinton, the secretary of state, Susan Rice, the U.S. permanent representative to the U.N., and Samantha Power, N.S.C. senior director for multilateral affairs, led the charge to war specifically to avoid “another Rwanda.” The latter two especially have been outspoken in their belief that the United States was wrong not to intervene to stop the 1994 genocide in Rwanda in which the ethnic Hutu Interahamwe militia slaughtered some 800,000 fellow Rwandans in a few weeks while the world watched. One diplomat told Power she shouldn’t let Libya become “Obama’s Rwanda,” according to the New York Times. Rwanda looms darkly in the liberal conscience as a powerful prod of guilt, whispering “Next time, do something. Do anything. Anything is better than nothing.”

Liberals have a point about Rwanda. It was grotesque that troop-contributing countries actually withdrew their forces from the U.N. Mission in Rwanda (UNAMIR), rather than beef it up with more resources and authority, as the genocide unfolded. (However, Power betrays her ignorance of military realities when she argued in her book, A Problem From Hell, that the U.N. could have stopped the genocide with the assets it had on the ground at the time).

But Libya is not Rwanda. Rwanda was genocide. Libya is a civil war.

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“persecution complex”

Like a Federal Pen?

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Jay, Please ban WOW.

WOW, hope that helps.

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No surprise to see someone whine and piss their pants over another saying STFU. Grow up. This blog is about the loss of humanity not the loss of your pride on how your Obama/Bush comment was responded to. Grow up.

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Very bad situation for them! Many prayers to the Japanese here and abroad.

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Peadawg left wing?????

Damn, I think I ruptured my kidneys from laughing so hard……..

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Anyone notice Bill SB-5 in Ohio passed! Bye Bye Unions!

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If WOW and Anti-WOW meet (in theory of course!), is there a giant explosion?

Doggone, I saw that. And it is mind boggling to think that the Japanese coast actually sank relative to the ocean, but I believe the protective tsunami walls were only 8 feet high.

I’m not faulting them, truly I’m not. And I understand that this was the largest earthquake to have hit that region in a long time, but this has shades of the levees in New Orleans. (Built for Cat 3, but nothing bigger…)

Scientists must have predicted bigger event

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jm

Genocides are frequently much a part of a civil war…

Quite frankly, and not trying to poke anybody, but I am always fascinated by just who (and what) it is that’s a burr under the Bruin’s saddle…he’s usually pretty placid…but sometimes…

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The Shores of Tripoli: Our Latest Wilsonian War
Walter Russell Mead

It’s still much too soon to tell how America’s Libya liberation venture will work out. The international coalition is shaky; the UN mandate is dubious; air power has frequently disappointed those who trusted that it alone can win wars; political support in the US is shaky; the Great Loon of Libya, a statesman in the hallowed tradition of Idi Amin, is as cunning as he is daffy; Libya’s fragile unity may crumble as the tribes and clans turn on one another; the rebels are poorly armed and poorly organized; some of them may in fact be experienced international terrorists.

For the record, I hope it all works out. I want the government to fall, the Great Loon to flap away into inglorious exile somewhere dismal and dull, and I want the rebels, with help from NATO and the Arab League, to set up a workable government that gives Libya’s people a chance to reinvent their country and spreads the oil wealth around. (I would also like a pony.) I think we are out on a limb here and I wish the president had found the time to get some congressional backing up front, but we are where we are and the best we can do now is to muddle on through.

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/03/30/the-shores-of-tripoli-our-latest-wilsonian-war/

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AmVet – you need to brush up on your physics. No explosion, maybe a few gamma rays, that’s about it. We just disappear into the night.

Maybe to an alternative universe perhaps.

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Carlosgvv, I don’t think that any technology can fool Mother Nature.

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Anti

“We just disappear into the night. Maybe to an alternative universe perhaps.”

Funny, that’s the reality I thought you were blogging from…..

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Jay:

I am so glad you posted this thread because this radiation debacle is probably an unmanageable problem

Now ………….. based on what’s happening in Japan, just imagine Islamic terrorists at some point in the future are able to set of a potent “dirty radiation” bomb in one or more of our major cities.

This is nothing to get political about.

We had best be doing EVERYTHING to prevent that (which at this time we are not).

Just sayin’

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Hello Wow, hows it going , all the hatred that spews from the left, if we could harness that energy perhaps we could eliminate a couple of our Nuke plants.

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Who was said the world will end, not with a bang, but a whimper?

Is Japan the beginning of that whimper?

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“A typical boiling water reactor in the US must have 5 emergency diesels instantly available at all time to provide emergency power to control and cooling systems in the event of loss of offsite power. Out of these five generators, at least two must available to power the control and cooling systems in the plant.”

5 or 55, I doubt any of them would work under water………..

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““josef, you truly are the King of EOIs!”

I do believe that I deserve at least an honorable mention in that category . . .

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I said this right after this disaster began, but we use the term “hero” a bit too loosely these days.

The workers in that plant and surrounding areas truly fit the definition of “heroes”.

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I doubt any of them would work under water………..

Maybe there is some use for our old diesel subs after all……..

Moderate

I don’t think Peadawg was asking Jay to ban WOW. He was just stating that Jay could do it, if he so chooses to.

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DAVE

Oh, I’ll agree…but you, too, are just an “also ran” when it comes to our founder and chairman, Paul…

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“5 or 55, I doubt any of them would work under water”

Didn’t Jay say something the other day about the new reactors at SRS having a passive cooling water flow, fed by gravity and not pumps?

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AmV

I don’t think anybody’s gonna best Paul in that category….

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No Normal, the Mid-East is the beginning of that “whimper”. From there it only goes down.

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Leakage of Caesium-137 of 547 times the normal level at the Dai-ichi nuclear plant is bad news, it has a half life of 30 years. Experiments with dogs show that a single dose is lethal within three weeks and even a small dose can cause cancer in humans. The worst fear is that it will get into the food supply and affect fertility rates leading to the depopulation of the planet. The IAEA has stated that Caesium-137 is the isotope of choice in dirty bombs, the Dai-ichi leak has accidentally made the dirty bomb a reality.

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Dang, AmVet and SoCom, would you two get some Christian charity? If God forgets the sin when a sinner repents, then maybe you two could…

wait… that means I’d have to feel remorse and turn away from those actions…

Nevermind.

good evening, josef nix

Regarding those “Five Civilized Tribes” down south: spent some growing-up years in upstate New York. There we had the Iroquois Five Nations – Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga and Seneca. They might take a wee exception to hearing another group of five referred to as ‘civilized’ -

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I understand what you are saying md but we cannot have energy without paying a price either in risks or our pocket books. All energy sources entail risks whether it be natural gas explosions or the terribly toxic byproducts created by the production of solar panels and batteries. We don’t live in some perfect sci-fi universe where there is a limitless cheap source of power which is pollution free to keep our AC’s and our computers going. I think that is the trouble with people today; everyone thinks that they should be able to have whatever they want whenever they want it but there should be absolutely no risk or cost involved to either themselves or to society. And at that point one can only surmise that we trully have become a “ship of un-educated, un-realistic” fools. Of course, what with our supposed “leaders” and the promises they make to pacify their constituentcies, it is entirely understandble. They know that they have enough gullible fools to follow them that they can basically say whatever they want whether it is stupid or not and they will still follow them.

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Jay

“was so unlikely that it would happen once every 17,000 years. But 20 years ago, it happened twice in four days at a pair of nuclear reactors in southern New Jersey”

Hits once, beginning of the 17,000, then it starts over and hits again. Doesn’t mean it can’t happen at the beginning of the cycle.

and lessee, that’s roughly equivalent to once every 6.2 million days.

But every week people are winning powerball lotteries with lots higher odds than that.

Oh well, sleep tight tonight!

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“Cartels threaten to kill Texas Rangers, ICE agents”

March 31, 2011 2:18 PM
Laura B. Martinez
The Brownsville Herald

“A law enforcement bulletin has been issued warning that the drug cartels were overheard plotting to kill ICE agents and Texas Rangers guarding the Texas border, officials reported this morning.

The cartel members planned to use AK-47 assault rifles to shoot the agents and rangers from across the border, the bulletin said. It did not name which drug cartel was involved.”

Note: Almost 100 years ago, Gen. Pershing and U.S. Cavalry were sent into Mexico on a punitive raid to stop the killing of U.S. Citizens along the border.

What we need is a president who would let the “Cartelnuts” group themselves across our border, land a company of Marines behind them and take no prisoners.

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Pogo….agree.

Jo…”Nuclear power…do the benefits outweigh the risks? IMHO, no….”

Along the lines of Pogo’s comment, I don’t think it is that simple of an answer……as he states, every source has it’s drawbacks……….another math equation to see which is actually worse.

Take nuclear off the table, and the price of oil skyrockets………and the cost of everything goes with it……..how many around the globe starve because they can’t afford the higher priced food??

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It is horrific.

Radiation spewing every where.

Toxic mess over there.

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md

I understand the logic at work, which is why I said “imho.” There just too much left to chance for me to be comfortable with it…

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“Alert Issued After Security Incident On Camp Pendleton”

“3 Middle Eastern Men Tried To Enter Base Without Proper Authorization, Base Alert Says”

Discrimination !

http://www.10news.com/news/27377448/detail.html

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josef nix

I found it interesting that the use of either ‘tribes’ or ‘nations’ had to do with consistency with one’s view of states’ rights or Manifest Destiny.

AmVet

If that example doesn’t get people to understand the concept of corporate welfare, I don’t think anything will.

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“With that said, we the people paying for these Georgia plants up front, is a crock of corporate welfare ____…”

Don’t know that that is the best example to use…….what is the difference between paying up front or paying when finished?

Kind of like the mechanic asking for a deposit on parts before he works on your car………you will pay for it all when the time comes.

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Thanks Bookman…The sky is falling….run for your lives…

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WOW

“GE and GM come to mind”

I wouldn’t argue that they weren’t welfare recipients, but they are now off welfare…

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WASHINGTON — The Nuclear Regulatory Commission says three U.S. nuclear power plants need increased oversight from federal regulators, although officials stressed that all are operating safely.

NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko (YAHT’-skoh) says the three plants – in South Carolina, Kansas and Nebraska – need more intensive review than other plants because of problems with safety systems or unplanned shutdowns.

Jaczko told a House subcommittee Thursday that the plants “are the ones we are most concerned about” among the 65 U.S. nuclear power plants in 31 states.

Jaczko did not identify the plants, but an agency spokesman said they are the H.B. Robinson nuclear plant in South Carolina, Fort Calhoun in Nebraska and Wolf Creek in Kansas
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Toto, this doesn’t glow like Kansas…..

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md

I don’t know about that…. The whole glow-in-the-dark thing kinda freaks me out about nuclear power. We can design plants and reactors, but I’m not doing any on-site work.

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Josef, do the deaths caused from “conventional” or “green” energy sources outweigh the risks? Nothing comes free dude. Name the energy source and one can name a number of things that are environmentally dangerous to us or our environment or our economy. Some entail slave labor or heavy metal poisoning for their production and some destroy species but make no mistake, all of them are fraught with danger and damage our environment whether they be hydro-power, coal, solar, wind, nuclear or natural gas. I guess the question we have to ask ourselves is, are willing to sacrifice modern technology with all of the benefits and risks that it presents or do we want to go back to sitting around wood fired CO2 emitting fires to cook our food and to stay warm. It is a simple question. In fact, nothing could be simpler.

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“I wouldn’t argue that they weren’t welfare recipients, but they are now off welfare…”

I don’t think so……at least not with GM:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=12176572

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“Peadawg @ 4:26 — bless you.”

LOL!!!!!!!! Here comes Midori!!!!!!!

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“What Happened to the American Declaration of War?”

Went bye-bye with the War Powers Act……….the President now has sole discretion for a free 90 day war anywhere he so chooses….all by himself.

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md

It is making its payments…off the dole, but not out of debt…

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“war by any other name ……….”

Kinetic death !

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“It is making its payments…off the dole, but not out of debt…’

Granted…..but the operative word is “making”………I’ll lighten up on them when the word changes to “made”.

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from earlier today, maybe AmVet??

The company also has a history of hiding/ falsifying documents to the government.

That same company,Tokyo Electric, has the contract to build 2 nuke pwr plants in So. Texas.
Good thing there’s no earthquakes down there.

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md
@ 6:44
Bottom line, I would have to agree…

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Nothing in this world is fool-proof and everything has a trade off. The thing about anything nuclear that makes me queasy, is the time frame involved when things go wrong. Radio active material can be a danger for hundreds of years, or longer. That leaves you virtually no margin for error. You make a wrong assumption, have an unintended consequence, etc, it’ll possibly be paid for, for generations and generations. Hard for me to get comfortable with that.

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md

@ 6:51

That was much my beef with the bail out, too. Truth be told, it was trickle down at work, but we’re not supposed to say that…

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josef:

He was a “good old boy” ex-motorcycle cop from Columbus, Ga. back in the mid-70’s.

We would often go to lunch at this certain cafeteria and he would always get a big piece of cornbread and then have the lady dip a big spoon and lady just some of the “pea juice” (without any peas) on top of his cornbread.

Thus the nickname ……….. “pea-juice” …………….. )

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Hillbilly

Back in the 70s there was a group of Japanese touring Hanford. The guide made comment that the waste would be buried “under constant government supervision” for x-thousand years. A Japanese lady raised her hand, “and what makes you think that the government will last x thousand years.”

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By 2015, the supplies of uranium will be in sufficient decline to limit nuclear energy. Or will they?

Like oil, coal, natural gas all other forms of non-renewable energy, nuclear is rapidly coming to a close. So, in effect, we’re taking all of these risks (especially with new reactors in GA) that can only be operational for another 20 – 30 years. Is the danger and expense really worth it?

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Mighty Righty

My Daddy passed through Hiroshima in 1946 as a member of the U.S. Army. The train stopped but the soldiers weren’t allowed off, due to the radiation. It’s something he seldom mentions but when he does, he never mentions birds flying around, chirping or otherwise.

Some of you may know that back in the 1950’s-1960’s, Lockheed had a nuclear facility in Dawson County, in what is now the Dawson Forest Wildlife Management Area. A very large number of people who worked there died from some sort of cancer. Sometimes it was years later but you have to wonder.

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“in what is now the Dawson Forest Wildlife Management Area. A very large number of people who worked there died from some sort of cancer. Sometimes it was years later but you have to wonder.”

And there are still areas that are off limits. If you check on the hiking trails in that area, they tell you to stay on the trail and not wander off – due to the danger of getting into a radiation area.

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Japanese officials are giving up; Fukushima to be abandoned and entombed

“We have no choice but to scrap” the No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 units at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, Katsumata told a news conference.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/03/30/UPI-NewsTrack-TopNews/UPI-13621301536800/#ixzz1IDdfmmY0

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Hi Midori!!! Hi Doggone/GA!!!

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It’s hard to believe, but here in the United States we conducted over 200 above-ground nuclear explosions. No wonder there’s so much cancer. Think about it. That’s over 200 nuclear bombs — many orders of magnitude greater than Nagasaki or Hiroshima — exploded right out there in Nevada. What were they thinking?

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Doggone/GA

I understand people say you have quite a glow about you -

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“I understand people say you have quite a glow about you”

I try to keep it hidden, but it does creep out…especially after dark!

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About the War Powers Act….sorry….I wandered off to a REALLY interesting article. I’m easily distracted.

Japanese officials are giving up; Fukushima to be abandoned and entombed

Should’ve done that much, much earlier. People have been known to exist without any power. Wasn’t it prehistoric man who invented fire?

Write ‘em off as a loss and move forward.

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josef:

Check these out …………. 1898 !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4jB96oIEyE&feature=related (historic film)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FAqSLMLQ8Q&feature=related (historic film)

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I try to keep it hidden, but it does creep out…especially after dark!

LOL!!!!! This wasn’t based on you by chance, was it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCG4XsfjYVE

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……………… and this one (especially at the 40 second mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K45ECwWVl8&feature=related (historic film)

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That Fox story is just heart-rending.

On an unrelated note great start for the Braves. I also have to give in to those of you that want to claim tomorrow as Opening Day. Even the Braves pocket schedule says tomorrow is the opener…even though they don’t play.

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“LOL!!!!! This wasn’t based on you by chance, was it?”

Wish it had been!

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JAY

Great minds…I was just about to post about the downwind cases still being argued around Hanford…

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PAUL

Back in the early 90s our school had a group of kids we called our “Chernobyl Babies” who had been brought to Atlanta from Byelorussia for treatment and study…not all of them made it…

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RW-(the liar), kudos. You really got your slobbering pals in a tizzy downstairs. Several of the lamebrains ganged on to your nasty prevarication.

Well played, stalker.

Now play dumb. You do it to perfection.

Can you tell me please, who won?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjU6JKkKQP4

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Thanks Midori.

I was thinking when they would start the cement job.

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Normal:

Nope but I did go to CBR Training during my stiint with my prior agency.

As we used to call it “Better Living Through Chemistry”.

As I am sure you know there is some stuff out there that makes radiation look tame.

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amvet,

If I post something you said and it happens to be a lie, it remains your lie.

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I’m afraid a prayer for those brave souls is all that anyone could offer at this point. I hope something good comes from it.

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HD

I saw something similar when things first went south in Libya. From Back in Feb….

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/22668/Default.aspx

and

http://israelinsider.net/profiles/blogs/with-a-jewish-grandma-and-a

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I’m taking bets but this might be the funniest SNL skit of all time. And how appropriate to this thread. You have to bookmark or favorite this skit. You’ll love it.

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(ISH)

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josef @ 7:53

I don’t know much about it. Makes one wonder if he doesn’t have some sort of self-loathing issues, for whatever reason. I do hope somebody manages to topple him, somehow. If he stays in power, the blood bath will only have been post-poned, not prevented.

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Rumor has it, Hitler was also Jewish.

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Rumor has it, Hitler was also Jewish.

I’ve heard that as well. Don’t know enough about it to know if anybody has ever come up with good evidence or not. He was a monster, whatever he was.

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You’re either going to have to uncage WOW or start a new thread about illegal immigration or the FairTax.

Well, I’m begging Bookman: please, pretty please don’t write anymore about the FairTax. It brings out all the tax cheats and IRS haters and pretty soon it breaks down to just a slam on guvmint in general. And I don’t need anymore about illegal immigration. I already wrote the solution but you never paid me no mind. Hint: It involves us rednecks, our pickup trucks, and gas money.

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Lawd ah mercy, josef….Jews are/were ever-where.

(IW&SH)

Another freebie on AQAP, which seems to be our greatest threat at the moment.

AQAP and the Vacuum of Authority in Yemen

AQAP and the Vacuum of Authority in Yemen is republished with permission of STRATFOR.

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SOCO: That’s a good one!

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At least 44 groups received more than $5 million to help pay health costs for more than 100,000 early retirees, according to the report. Some of the biggest recipients were unions and states. In addition to the UAW, the state of New Jersey received $39 million, the California Public Employees Retirement System, or Calpers, got $58 million, and the Georgia Department of Community Health also received $58 million, according to the report.

I wondered who was getting that fed Healthcare Legislation money — Georgia! I guess they were upset because they didn’t get more than California.

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Let’s do some more math shall we? On November 7, 1972 Nixon beat McGovern 520 electoral votes to 17. I’d say that was a trouncing, but nobody born in 1955 was eligible to vote in that election.

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@ 0311/0317 – 1811/1801

World Net Daily

hahahahahah

That is right wing version of like Daily Kos or Media Matters.

Slanted, biased bs for the easily lead sheeple……….. just two sides of the same coin

Right or left………………… makes know difference when you elect to be lead around by pied pipers singing and playing the same two tunes…….. far lefty and righty

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The news media, including Fox and every outlet that I have read, have focused primarily on the nuclear dangers from the Fukishima plant and have ignored or minimized the thousands of people who have died in this disaster. Even Bookman states in his cut and paste that the bodies of the victims pose a problem because of their nuclear contamination because the main story here is the evil nuclear reactors and what might happen to others if they don’t heed the dire warnings from all of the talking heads. Bottom line…. not one person to date has died from the nuclear fallout. Those workers that have “given their life” to “save the country” is a somewhat melodramatic version of the media perception of what is happening . It sells lots of newspapers, lots of blog space and yes, lots of iodine pills to those in San Francisco. The media has gone nuts with this. The panic button was pushed early on in this crisis and it keeps on giving. Nuclear power is now the enemy but it will be in the future, our only hope for providing the energy that we need to supply this gluttonous appetite we have. So let stop scaring the be-Jesus out of people. It serves no purpose but to sell corn plasters and used cars. Fix our problems and move along. We really have no other choice.

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We’ll never fly.

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WOW:

I hate to tell you this but Jay has always been a little partial.

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okay…g’night…

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Oops! forgot to close the slanty thingy.

“Bottom line…. not one person to date has died from the nuclear fallout.”

Au contraire, countless millions have died in this country from cancer as a direct result of the nuclear testing done in the late 40s and 50s.

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Read this article (New York Times) start to finish and you will hurl your supper.

Our leaders don’t know what they are doing, are speaking out of both sides of their mouths and are even contradicting each other.

Representative Mike Coffman, Republican of Colorado, during the morning session …………….
concluded, “This is just the most muddled definition of an operation probably in U.S. military history.”

Truly pathetic:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/01/world/africa/01military.html?_r=2&hp

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Didn’t see the Braves today but the pitchers gave up 5 hits, 2 walks and had 9 strikeouts. Not a bad day’s work.

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I got to listen to a bit of the tv broadcast, and it was rather enjoyable to listen to a victory.

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Speaking of Heyward..

Just call him Mr. Opening Day.

Combine the shot with 2010’s blast off Carlos Zambrano and Heyward becomes just the second player in baseball history to hit an opening day homer in his first career at-bat and then follow it up with another homer to lead off the next season. Stats Inc. says the only other player to notch the feat was Kazuo Matsui, who did it for the New York Mets in 2004 and 2005. Interestingly, he also hit an inside-the-park homer to lead off the 2006 season.

Courtesy of Yahoo sports…

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RW-(the original)

March 31st, 2011
8:43 pm

RW,

What are you saying? That Amvet said he was born in 1955 and then is stating things like he voted in 1972 when he was 17 and that is military record doesn’t coincide with his birthdate?

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The japanese value of country is most honorable. People that are willing to give their life so that others may keep theirs, is the ultimate sacrifice of humanity. Life, death, and destruction, japan has been hit so hard it makes our deficit squabbles pale in comparison. We need to watch, learn and pray for that unique nation…

scout
That was a badazz godzilla video, it was like wathching the whole movie in 4 minutes. Godzilla has to be one of my all time favorites. Creature feature on saturday morning with godzilla stomping around on the family black and white tv with just me up early in the morning at age six. It was dark out and I could swear he was right outside the door…ready to crush the house..

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Yeah, better check his long form birth certificate in the court of ridicule.

Does kay work for a nuke company?

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face it, getalife:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUIPlLw2ZE

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“In Japan, a grisly consequence of radiation”

Japs seem to have bad luck with nucular events.

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hd

Morse code….used to know it when I was in the guard, only we used flashing light. It only takes about four days to learn flashing light fairly well. That’s six hours a day of training and they gave us mini hand held ones to practice with at night. Can’t remember a darn thing now except sos…

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No doubt its a tragedy but something tells me that its also a little overblown and over the long haul the effects of this particular radiation leak will be minimal.

People acted like the Chernobyl meltdown was going to kill tens of thousands of people. It didn’t. It killed 34 people directly and adding in indirect deaths the total death total was 64. Source – wikipedia. And this was from a complete meltdown.

Unfortunately we may have some of those workers die directly from the radiation effects and we may not. Who knows? Only time will tell and all we can do is pray for them and their health. But my bottom line is that a year from new I’m willing to bet there will be very minimal deaths from the radioactive fallout.

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In other news, an earth shaking crowd of 200 iced tea partiers gathering at the capital today to be supported by way far out right gang. Pence, demint and bachmann to name a few, were cheered mightily by the throng of 200 and demanded off with the boehners head. “How dare he negotiate” uttered many who believe that hundreds of billions more need to be cut. The ongoing claptrap was analogous to a mosquito taking a bite out of an elephants arse…the american people were not listening nor interested..

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getalife is fraudian.

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getalife sux cox.

hahahahaha

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Mick,

The tea partyers in DC today may be the only 200 sane people there. What’s insane is when the govt spends 1.6 trillion more than it takes in- sinking the country ever deeper in debt, and only 200 people seem to give a sh$t about this insanity.

And then there are the people who belittle a movement that is based on the govt living within its means, less burdensome taxation, and having the nation’s books restored to fiscal sanity. And to think that those people think the tea party folks are the ones that are crazy.

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“others who must figure out how to pay more and more money for an ever increasing population of parasites who depend on the government theft-payoff machine to sustain their lives”- Mr. Reality

45% of the population now either does not pay federal taxes or recieves some sort of benefit from the federal govt. And Mr. Reality is wrong about this how?

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Back in my college days, I took a little ROTC. We had a short course in How To Survive a Nuclear Attack. The basic radiation info, and how to stock and run a Fallout Shelter. We were given a card that stated we had training, and in the event of an attack, anyone with that card was in charge of whatever shelter he was in, in the event that no official was in the shelter. These were the days of the nuclear scare, and we thought it was quite real. I still have that card as a memento of the old days.

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Just heard radioactive isotopes have been found in milk in Nevada and California. Oh yes, this is JUST a Japanese problem.Do NOT tell me about acceptable levels BS…. These damn nuke plants are ALL just an accident waiting to happen. Texas I hear is taking the lead on US alternative power sources; of al places! Strange bedfellows to say the least.

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Like I”ve mentioned before, is it too late to put this genie back in the bottle? It’s eerie that after the events of WWII they nuked themselves.

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We don’t pay any income tax because Congress and the Bush administration decided to fund the government on credit. It was supposed to have expired by now.

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[...] With the data, the IAEA effectively urged Japan to expand the current no-go zone of 20 km around the plant. Residents in areas 20 km to 30 km of the plant have been advised to stay indoors…..In Japan, a grisly consequence of radiation | Jay Bookman [...]

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And we would be downwind!

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Pump going to Japan through ATL:

http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-news/2011-03-31/srs-concrete-pump-heading-japan-nuclear-site

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Having spent 6 years there in the military, I can tell you that cremation is customary in Japan.

There is a huge crematorium just north of the air base at Yokota, and when the wind is right, everyone knows when it is active.

Anyway, I feel for my friends still there, Japanese and Americans. May the find their way out of this dark tragedy.

You idiots calling back at forth at each other”stfu….make me…”, show just how stupid and insensitive the both of you are to this horrific scene; but, one would expect such from the common garden variety demwittocrat, I suppose.

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You idiots calling back at forth at each other”stfu….make me…”, show just how stupid and insensitive the both of you are to this horrific scene; but, one would expect such from the common garden variety demwittocrat, I suppose.

Did anyone else pick up on the little bitty teeny weeny flaw in the Bud’s plea for non-civility.

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Today’s history lesson…

On this day in 1700, English pranksters begin popularizing the annual tradition of April Fools’ Day by playing practical jokes on each other.

Although the day, also called All Fools’ Day, has been celebrated for several centuries by different cultures, its exact origins remain a mystery. Some historians speculate that April Fools’ Day dates back to 1582, when France switched from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar, as called for by the Council of Trent in 1563. People who were slow to get the news or failed to recognize that the start of the new year had moved to January 1 and continued to celebrate it during the last week of March through April 1 became the butt of jokes and hoaxes. These included having paper fish placed on their backs and being referred to as “poisson d’avril” (April fish), said to symbolize a young, easily caught fish and a gullible person.

Historians have also linked April Fools’ Day to ancient festivals such as Hilaria, which was celebrated in Rome at the end of March and involved people dressing up in disguises. There’s also speculation that April Fools’ Day was tied to the vernal equinox, or first day of spring in the Northern Hemisphere, when Mother Nature fooled people with changing, unpredictable weather.

April Fools’ Day spread throughout Britain during the 18th century. In Scotland, the tradition became a two-day event, starting with “hunting the gowk,” in which people were sent on phony errands (gowk is a word for cuckoo bird, a symbol for fool) and followed by Tailie Day, which involved pranks played on people’s derrieres, such as pinning fake tails or “kick me” signs on them.

In modern times, people have gone to great lengths to create elaborate April Fools’ Day hoaxes. Newspapers, radio and TV stations and Web sites have participated in the April 1 tradition of reporting outrageous fictional claims that have fooled their audiences. In 1957, the BBC reported that Swiss farmers were experiencing a record spaghetti crop and showed footage of people harvesting noodles from trees; numerous viewers were fooled. In 1985, Sports Illustrated tricked many of its readers when it ran a made-up article about a rookie pitcher named Sidd Finch who could throw a fastball over 168 miles per hour. In 1996, Taco Bell, the fast-food restaurant chain, duped people when it announced it had agreed to purchase Philadelphia’s Liberty Bell and intended to rename it the Taco Liberty Bell. In 1998, after Burger King advertised a “Left-Handed Whopper,” scores of clueless customers requested the fake sandwich.

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In my case, they had to be far lefthanded burgers…

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Hey Bud,
Nice to “see” you again…

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Over at the RNC site, they’re advertising an “American Exceptionalism Calendar” for sale. You follow the link and it’s not there.

Decent April Fool’s joke, I’ll give it a B-.

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Where is the media about yesterday’s epic ice tea party fail? Here’s a good economic read-
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/01/opinion/01krugman.html?_r=1&hp

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Oh! I get it! Bud Wiser is really Jay’s April Fool joke on us… Good one, Jay!

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AmVet,
We both know that we did our part. That is ALL that matters. Hand salute…ready…Two!

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Don’t you love it when they do that? They’re just so totally unaware ….

Who am I to talk though.

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Blacks are racists.

I guess some are. Mugabe and his henchmen, holding the power that they hold in the part of the planet where they live, would qualify (although racism is perhaps an also-ran of that particular regime’s sins.)

However, a historically disenfranchised people with no power to oppress a majority culture cannot be “racist.”

(Also, one could just as goofily assert “Asians are mass murderers, Whites are child molesters, and Hispanics are animal torturers,” but it wouldn’t really mean very much, save to let everyone know what a jackass one was.)

(Also too, I know I lost you with “I guess,” but sometimes I feel the need to patiently explain the obvious anyway.)

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BADA BING:

Does Obama have that card ?

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“But what a disgrace that AmVet obsessed liar, RW is, huh?’

Vet, you call people humpers, racists, nazis, trolls, etc and yet somehow you believe in your own mind that you are pure as white snow. It’s really baffling how someone like you thinks that way.

You spend most of your time saying some of the most vile things on the blog. You like to hide behind your service to your country and expect that to be a shield from attacks AFTER you throw the first grenade.

I know many servicemen and women and NONE of them act like you do.

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Jay I have come to expect incoherent nonsensical responses from your usual crowd of DEM-wit and REP-ugant bloggers, however, your 7:50 a.m. rant causes me to have concern that you are taking these characters a little too seriously. Jay if these people were useful productive citizens do you think they would have time to spend an entire day every day responding to you inflammatory bolgs.
Think about it!

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however, your 7:50 a.m. rant causes me to have concern that you are taking these characters a little too seriously.

a two sentence, thirteen word post is a “rant?”

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g’morning, sfd

There. Just wanted to get my morning rant over with.

Whew.

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normal

I wish that were true but they had to weed out any potential deadwood because every day in the coast guard there is action whether it be search and rescue, drug interdiction or helo ops. I was at cape may and it was tough..

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Atlas Shrugging :

Some of us are retired and/or work at home from our computers ………….. thus we have time to play ………………

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Today, we will all get along and be nice to each other.

Happy April fools day.

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Mick,
I was just funnin’…I know the Coasties had it tough. I served with them occasionally in the Delta

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@WOW youre a moron

Were you a awake during 2008 when oil was $147 a barrel? Idiot

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I gotta say, “how much we can tell from polls conducted during the very early stages of a presidential primary campaign’ sounds like the setup for an April Fool’s prank.

He makes a pretty good case, so far, anyway. I look forward to his analysis of the Democrats’ primary polling history.

Beyond that, though, with the nation’s stat-geekiest sport just now opening up its doors for the season, I consider it my patriotic duty to savor the deliciousness of stat-geeky grafs like these:

[W]e were able to find some name recognition data, most often from Gallup, for perhaps 80 or 90 percent of the candidates. For the others, I made an educated guess based on factors like whether the candidate had run for the presidency before and the types of offices that he’d held. For instance, an otherwise undistinguished senator or governor will usually start with name recognition of about 30 percent once he begins to make some noise about running for president and gets some early media attention, so that figure would be applied for this type of candidate when we lacked more specific data.

There certainly is some imprecision in my estimates because of factors like the different wording pollsters use to get at the name recognition question — as well the handful of cases in which there was no hard data at all — but in most cases, they ought to be sound estimates — considerably better than rough ones.

Pardon my ongoing man-crush, but that’s poetry..

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FYI. Unemployment rate dropping because as unemployment benefits are getting cut back, people stop looking, because as a requirement for unemployment benefits, you have to prove and indicate you are looking for a job. Ie, the 99ers no longer count in the labor force. There’s more free-loading going on than economists understand from traditional models.

We’re not in a job recovery, though we are in an economic recovery.

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Wrong, jm. Jobs are actually being created. But people are dropping out of the workforce and the Labor Department is dutifully reporting it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110401/bs_nm/us_usa_economy

“The private sector accounted for all the new jobs in March, adding 230,000 positions after February’s 240,000 increase. Government employment fell 14,000, declining for a fifth straight month as local governments let go 15,000 workers.”

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getalife – voters won’t vote based on a headline number getalife. They’ll vote based on how they feel. And I don’t think they’re likely to actually feel good in a year and a half. We’ll see.

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Mick,

I saw you complain earlier about the oil companies screwing us on the price of gas and the prolific rise in gas prices. 2 points to be noted.

1) The oil companies do not set the price of gas/oil. Opec does. This is not debateable.

2) I remember when gas rose quickly in the Bush administration- I believe it was after Katrina that it temporarily ran up to $5 for a day or a couple days and gradually started dropping. The reason gas rose quickly was due to Wall Street speculation mostly likely from Obama’s largest campaign contributor Goldman Sachs and their buddies on Wall Street. Supply and demand also had a great deal to do with it. Panic and individual gas station proprietors also had something to do with it.

3)When this happened people like yourself, the libs, and the self-righteous blowhards in DC all called for investigations and studies of oil companies for running up the cost of gas. The truth is that before that there had already been 37 different studies done as to whether or not there was any collusion by oil companies to run up the cost of gas. Few of the studies found any evidence of the oil companies running up the cost of gas and the few that did concluded that if there was any collusion at all that it accounted for possibly 1 % of the cost of the gas. And that’s IF there was any collusion.

The rise in the cost of oil was always attributed to either market speculation of the product, supply and demand, and or kinks in the distribution system such as with Katrina that interrupted the supply of oil. If you will remember the main pipeline that help supplied oil to metro Atlanta was shut down for a few days.

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