In Japan, a grisly consequence of radiation
Boy, hadn’t thought about this aspect of the tragedy in Japan … from the Japan Times:
Radiation is preventing the retrieval of hundreds of bodies from inside the 20-km evacuation zone around the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, police sources said Thursday.
Based on initial reports after the March 11 catastrophe, the number of bodies is estimated at between a few hundred and 1,000, one of the sources said, adding that high radiation is now hampering full-scale searches.
That view was supported by the Sunday find of high radiation levels on a body found in Okuma, Fukushima Prefecture, 5 km from the plant.
The rescuers are now in a bind. Even if they retrieve the bodies, anyone who comes into contact with them risks being irradiated, too, whether they’re in the evacuation zone or not.
And if the bodies are cremated, the smoke could spread radioactive materials as well, the sources said. Even burial poses a problem. When the bodies decompose, they might contaminate the soil with radioactive materials.
Other news looks equally grim:
(The International Atomic Energy Agency) said Wednesday in Geneva it detected about 2 million becquerels of radioactive substances per sq. meter, or double the threshold at which the IAEA itself would order an evacuation, in soil samples from the village of Iitate about 40 km northwest of the nuclear power plant.
With the data, the IAEA effectively urged Japan to expand the current no-go zone of 20 km around the plant. Residents in areas 20 km to 30 km of the plant have been advised to stay indoors.
Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano only said the government may consider expanding the mandatory evacuation zone if the higher levels of radiation continue…..
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said Thursday the level of radioactive iodine-131 in seawater near the plant was 4,385 times the maximum tolerable amount, the highest reading since the crisis began March 11.
Other highly radioactive materials were also detected, including cesium-134 at 783.7 times the maximum amount permitted, and cesium-137 at 527.4 times the legal limit.
The half-life of cesium-137, or the time its radioactivity dissipates by half, is 30 years compared with eight days for iodine-131 and two years for cesium-134.”
Workers at the disaster-stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan say they expect to die from radiation sickness as a result of their efforts to bring the reactors under control, the mother of one of the men tells Fox News….
Speaking tearfully through an interpreter by phone, the mother of a 32-year-old worker said: “My son and his colleagues have discussed it at length and they have committed themselves to die if necessary to save the nation.
“He told me they have accepted they will all probably die from radiation sickness in the short term or cancer in the long-term.”
The woman spoke to Fox News on the condition of anonymity because, she said, plant workers had been asked by management not to communicate with the media or share details with family members in order to minimize public panic.
She could not confirm if her son or other workers were already suffering from radiation sickness. But she added: “They have concluded between themselves that it is inevitable some of them may die within weeks or months. They know it is impossible for them not to have been exposed to lethal doses of radiation.”
– Jay Bookman
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josef nix
March 31st, 2011
5:59 pm
md
I understand the logic at work, which is why I said “imho.” There just too much left to chance for me to be comfortable with it…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
5:59 pm
“Gaddafi’s glamorous blonde lawyer daughter joins soldiers on the front line”
This is going to make a great movie !
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371426/Libya-Gaddafis-glamorous-blonde-lawyer-daughter-Aisha-joins-soldiers-line.html#ixzz1IDW3USMD
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
6:02 pm
“Alert Issued After Security Incident On Camp Pendleton”
“3 Middle Eastern Men Tried To Enter Base Without Proper Authorization, Base Alert Says”
Discrimination !
http://www.10news.com/news/27377448/detail.html
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
6:03 pm
Pogo
True… Everything has risks, and there’s no way to avoid them if we are to keep up with our demand for energy.
md
I had the same thought about a 2nd containment system located below the reactor. Like you, I’m not an engineer, so I don’t know how feasable that would be.
Scout/1811
Those threats come on a regular basis. Law enforcement in border sectors stay on high alert at all times. Unless we’re going to declare war against Mexico, I don’t think the Marines will get to partake in that action. I think you’re in the ball park though. Why do we have troops dealing with other people’s problems all around the world, when they should be here dealing with our problems in our own backyard.
Paul
March 31st, 2011
6:08 pm
josef nix
I found it interesting that the use of either ‘tribes’ or ‘nations’ had to do with consistency with one’s view of states’ rights or Manifest Destiny.
AmVet
If that example doesn’t get people to understand the concept of corporate welfare, I don’t think anything will.
md
March 31st, 2011
6:08 pm
Gee soco, maybe we need to re-think our career choices…….:)
md
March 31st, 2011
6:11 pm
“With that said, we the people paying for these Georgia plants up front, is a crock of corporate welfare ____…”
Don’t know that that is the best example to use…….what is the difference between paying up front or paying when finished?
Kind of like the mechanic asking for a deposit on parts before he works on your car………you will pay for it all when the time comes.
WOW
March 31st, 2011
6:12 pm
“If that example doesn’t get people to understand the concept of corporate welfare, I don’t think anything will.”
GE and GM come to mind.
STW
March 31st, 2011
6:14 pm
Thanks Bookman…The sky is falling….run for your lives…
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
6:16 pm
PAUL
Same here. I read an interesting article once which was based on the concept of what would an independent South have been had it been left to go its own way without the war, The thesis was that the example of the Texas Republic would be the best example…
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
6:20 pm
WOW
“GE and GM come to mind”
I wouldn’t argue that they weren’t welfare recipients, but they are now off welfare…
AmVet
March 31st, 2011
6:20 pm
md, I’m not sure that’s not the best analogy.
That’s my friggin’ car he’s working on.
If I sense he is screwing me, I can take it elsewhere.
And even so, I have rights as a consumer. (Well, at least I used to before the corporatocracy!)
Paul, corporate welfare is a concept to cons like heaven and hell is a concept to dogs and cats…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 31st, 2011
6:25 pm
WASHINGTON — The Nuclear Regulatory Commission says three U.S. nuclear power plants need increased oversight from federal regulators, although officials stressed that all are operating safely.
NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko (YAHT’-skoh) says the three plants – in South Carolina, Kansas and Nebraska – need more intensive review than other plants because of problems with safety systems or unplanned shutdowns.
Jaczko told a House subcommittee Thursday that the plants “are the ones we are most concerned about” among the 65 U.S. nuclear power plants in 31 states.
Jaczko did not identify the plants, but an agency spokesman said they are the H.B. Robinson nuclear plant in South Carolina, Fort Calhoun in Nebraska and Wolf Creek in Kansas
___________________________
Toto, this doesn’t glow like Kansas…..
Midori
March 31st, 2011
6:26 pm
Peadawg @ 4:26 — bless you.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
6:28 pm
md
I don’t know about that…. The whole glow-in-the-dark thing kinda freaks me out about nuclear power. We can design plants and reactors, but I’m not doing any on-site work.
md
March 31st, 2011
6:29 pm
Well Am, you can also look at it like that is your power they are working on…….unless you plan to go elsewhere…………….
Pogo
March 31st, 2011
6:30 pm
Josef, do the deaths caused from “conventional” or “green” energy sources outweigh the risks? Nothing comes free dude. Name the energy source and one can name a number of things that are environmentally dangerous to us or our environment or our economy. Some entail slave labor or heavy metal poisoning for their production and some destroy species but make no mistake, all of them are fraught with danger and damage our environment whether they be hydro-power, coal, solar, wind, nuclear or natural gas. I guess the question we have to ask ourselves is, are willing to sacrifice modern technology with all of the benefits and risks that it presents or do we want to go back to sitting around wood fired CO2 emitting fires to cook our food and to stay warm. It is a simple question. In fact, nothing could be simpler.
@@
March 31st, 2011
6:30 pm
An interesting freebie.
What Happened to the American Declaration of War?
As our international power and interests surge, it would seem reasonable that our commitment to republican principles would surge. These commitments appear inconvenient. They are meant to be. War is a serious matter, and presidents and particularly Congresses should be inconvenienced on the road to war. Members of Congress should not be able to hide behind ambiguous resolutions only to turn on the president during difficult times, claiming that they did not mean what they voted for. A vote on a declaration of war ends that. It also prevents a president from acting as king by default. Above all, it prevents the public from pretending to be victims when their leaders take them to war. The possibility of war will concentrate the mind of a distracted public like nothing else. It turns voting into a life-or-death matter, a tonic for our adolescent body politic.
What Happened to the American Declaration of War? is republished with permission of STRATFOR.
War by any other name is………???
md
March 31st, 2011
6:32 pm
“I wouldn’t argue that they weren’t welfare recipients, but they are now off welfare…”
I don’t think so……at least not with GM:
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=12176572
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
6:33 pm
Pogo
I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert in the area…it just makes me nervous…
WOW
March 31st, 2011
6:33 pm
“Peadawg @ 4:26 — bless you.”
LOL!!!!!!!! Here comes Midori!!!!!!!
Typical Democrat
March 31st, 2011
6:34 pm
Obama is a genius.
Jay is a genius.
All Republicans are evil, wicked, mean and nasty.
All Democrats are wise, compassionate, and forthright.
We must take money away from the people that earned it and give it to the deadbeats.
md
March 31st, 2011
6:36 pm
“What Happened to the American Declaration of War?”
Went bye-bye with the War Powers Act……….the President now has sole discretion for a free 90 day war anywhere he so chooses….all by himself.
md
March 31st, 2011
6:38 pm
“I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert in the area…it just makes me nervous…”
Good thing you aren’t in the navy stationed on a carrier
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
6:38 pm
md
It is making its payments…off the dole, but not out of debt…
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
6:40 pm
md
@ 6:38
True, that!
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
6:43 pm
@@:
“war by any other name ……….”
Kinetic death !
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
6:44 pm
josef:
You haven’t asked me about my “pea-juice” budy.
md
March 31st, 2011
6:44 pm
“It is making its payments…off the dole, but not out of debt…’
Granted…..but the operative word is “making”………I’ll lighten up on them when the word changes to “made”.
Jackie
March 31st, 2011
6:44 pm
I hope a viable solution to the crisis in Japan is found. The Japanese need it, as does the rest of the world.
If no solution is found and the same thing happens in another country, where does that leave the rest of the world?
Tundra Dude
March 31st, 2011
6:45 pm
from earlier today, maybe AmVet??
The company also has a history of hiding/ falsifying documents to the government.
That same company,Tokyo Electric, has the contract to build 2 nuke pwr plants in So. Texas.
Good thing there’s no earthquakes down there.
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
6:45 pm
Scout
Sorry… tell…
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
6:46 pm
md
@ 6:44
Bottom line, I would have to agree…
md
March 31st, 2011
6:51 pm
Jo….my biggest beef is gov’t picking and choosing winners and losers……..for every person that we bailed out at GM and Chrysler, xxx number of other people lost their jobs as their companies were allowed to go under…………..
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 31st, 2011
6:53 pm
Nothing in this world is fool-proof and everything has a trade off. The thing about anything nuclear that makes me queasy, is the time frame involved when things go wrong. Radio active material can be a danger for hundreds of years, or longer. That leaves you virtually no margin for error. You make a wrong assumption, have an unintended consequence, etc, it’ll possibly be paid for, for generations and generations. Hard for me to get comfortable with that.
Tundra Dude
March 31st, 2011
6:54 pm
Southern Comfort@6:03 pm, wrote, in part:
True… Everything has risks, and there’s no way to avoid them if we are to keep up with our demand for energy.
For nuke power, it seems they can dramatically lower the risks by substituting thorium for uranium.
The Chinese are going full speed ahead resurrecting thorium. (The US lost interest decades ago…they were more interested in producing weapons-grade plutonium)
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
6:55 pm
md
@ 6:51
That was much my beef with the bail out, too. Truth be told, it was trickle down at work, but we’re not supposed to say that…
Mighy Righty
March 31st, 2011
6:56 pm
Jay, please explain why in 1945 Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by weapons which should have caused more radiation than the present nucleur plants are releasing. Today, both of those cities have completely recovered. Birds, sing, fish swim, birds fly and the cities are among the most modern on our planet. Also, we exploded several nucleur devices in Nevada, New Mexico, and the South Pacific. We had many GI’s witness these tests, some as guenea (?) pigs to study the effects. As far as I know, there were little if any serious illness.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
6:57 pm
josef:
He was a “good old boy” ex-motorcycle cop from Columbus, Ga. back in the mid-70’s.
We would often go to lunch at this certain cafeteria and he would always get a big piece of cornbread and then have the lady dip a big spoon and lady just some of the “pea juice” (without any peas) on top of his cornbread.
Thus the nickname ……….. “pea-juice” ……………..
)
Paul
March 31st, 2011
6:57 pm
md
“Went bye-bye with the War Powers Act……….the President now has sole discretion for a free 90 day war anywhere he so chooses….all by himself.”
Yup.
You might find this interesting – Mark Levin on the President’s legal authority to bomb Libya.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4611119/mark-levin-on-legal-authority-to-bomb-libya/
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
6:58 pm
Hillbilly
Back in the 70s there was a group of Japanese touring Hanford. The guide made comment that the waste would be buried “under constant government supervision” for x-thousand years. A Japanese lady raised her hand, “and what makes you think that the government will last x thousand years.”
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
6:58 pm
Excuse me: “big spoon and ladle some of the pea-juice”
Soothsayer
March 31st, 2011
6:59 pm
By 2015, the supplies of uranium will be in sufficient decline to limit nuclear energy. Or will they?
“This assessment results in the conclusion that in the short term, until about 2015, the long lead times of new and the decommissioning of aging reactors perform the barrier for fast extension, and after about 2020 severe uranium supply shortages become likely which, again will limit the extension of nuclear energy.” Uranium Resources and Nuclear Energy, 2006.
The United States and France, heavy nuclear users, will be out of domestic supply and world supply is questionable. It takes semantic tricks by industry representatives to claim otherwise. (See Note 2)
Joaquin offers up the future of nuclear power, the future carefully avoided by governments, the nuclear industry, and the media. Instead of the current generation of plants, the nuclear industry will give us “improved reactors” and fuel cycles that require less uranium. Supplementing that will be imports from the same type of unreliable suppliers that we have for petroleum (e.g., Kazakhstan, the Soviet Union).
“So, where’s all the nuclear fuel going to come from? The answer has to be that the nuclear industry and U.S. government intend to use more exotic fuel cycles in the future power plants including, MOX [mixed oxide] (currently leaking our of Fukushima1, unit 3), reprocessed Uranium, Thorium, and breeder reactors of various types (See Note)
“The industry and their government and media proxies don’t want to talk about this fact too much because the waste from these future fuel cycles is far more dangerous than most of the stuff slowly making a large part of Japan uninhabitable for the next few dozen millennium. In other words, the discussion in the media about future nuclear safety is completely dishonest.”
Like oil, coal, natural gas all other forms of non-renewable energy, nuclear is rapidly coming to a close. So, in effect, we’re taking all of these risks (especially with new reactors in GA) that can only be operational for another 20 – 30 years. Is the danger and expense really worth it?
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 31st, 2011
7:00 pm
Kind of like the mechanic asking for a deposit on parts before he works on your car………
Having spent a good many years in that business, there is a reason for that. If you don’t come back to get your car worked on, after he has gotten the parts, at best, he has to send them back and all that time and effort was wasted on his part. A more likely scenario, is that he will have to send them back and pay a restocking fee. Some cases, he may not be able to send them back and be stuck with them.
One of the most amazing things I saw, in my years in the business, was how many people will pay for parts in total, not a deposit, and never come back. I’ve seen people pay a couple hundred dollars to order a part and never come back for it. So if people will do that, imagine how many would order parts and never come back, if there was no monetary risk to themselves. You have to work a while around the public to realize just how irresponsible a lot of people are.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 31st, 2011
7:05 pm
Mighty Righty
My Daddy passed through Hiroshima in 1946 as a member of the U.S. Army. The train stopped but the soldiers weren’t allowed off, due to the radiation. It’s something he seldom mentions but when he does, he never mentions birds flying around, chirping or otherwise.
Some of you may know that back in the 1950’s-1960’s, Lockheed had a nuclear facility in Dawson County, in what is now the Dawson Forest Wildlife Management Area. A very large number of people who worked there died from some sort of cancer. Sometimes it was years later but you have to wonder.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
7:09 pm
For nuke power, it seems they can dramatically lower the risks by substituting thorium for uranium.
Lowering the risks and eliminating them are two different monsters. Lower risks does not mean that something bad won’t happen.
Doggone/GA
March 31st, 2011
7:11 pm
“in what is now the Dawson Forest Wildlife Management Area. A very large number of people who worked there died from some sort of cancer. Sometimes it was years later but you have to wonder.”
And there are still areas that are off limits. If you check on the hiking trails in that area, they tell you to stay on the trail and not wander off – due to the danger of getting into a radiation area.
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
7:12 pm
Mighty Righty
Of 2200 persons who worked on the film “The Conqueror” on location in Utah in 1955, 91 had contracted cancer as of the early 1980s and 46 died of it, including stars John Wayne, Susan Hayward, and Agnes Moorehead, and director Dick Powell. According to experts under ordinary circumstances only 30 people out of a group of that size should have gotten cancer. Many attribute the cancers to radioactive fallout from U.S. atom bomb tests in nearby Nevada. See “The Hollywood Hall of Shame” by Harry and Michael Medved.
Scout
Midori
March 31st, 2011
7:12 pm
Japanese officials are giving up; Fukushima to be abandoned and entombed
“We have no choice but to scrap” the No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 units at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, Katsumata told a news conference.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/03/30/UPI-NewsTrack-TopNews/UPI-13621301536800/#ixzz1IDdfmmY0
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
7:16 pm
You have to work a while around the public to realize just how irresponsible a lot of people are.
Nothing any more truthful has ever been spoken on this blog!!!
Paul
March 31st, 2011
7:17 pm
Hi Midori!!! Hi Doggone/GA!!!
Doggone/GA
March 31st, 2011
7:20 pm
Hi Paul! I’ve actually hiked in that area of Dawson Forest.
Soothsayer
March 31st, 2011
7:20 pm
It’s hard to believe, but here in the United States we conducted over 200 above-ground nuclear explosions. No wonder there’s so much cancer. Think about it. That’s over 200 nuclear bombs — many orders of magnitude greater than Nagasaki or Hiroshima — exploded right out there in Nevada. What were they thinking?
md
March 31st, 2011
7:21 pm
HD,
Knew a local builder that had to start making folks pay up front for any changes out of the norm …….things such as pink carpet have a way of diminishing potential buyers………..
Paul
March 31st, 2011
7:22 pm
Doggone/GA
I understand people say you have quite a glow about you -
Doggone/GA
March 31st, 2011
7:23 pm
“exploded right out there in Nevada. What were they thinking?”
Not all of them were above ground though. When they found how dangerous it was above ground testing was banned.
Doggone/GA
March 31st, 2011
7:24 pm
“I understand people say you have quite a glow about you”
I try to keep it hidden, but it does creep out…especially after dark!
Soothsayer
March 31st, 2011
7:25 pm
Doggone/GA: no, not all but over 200.
@@
March 31st, 2011
7:26 pm
About the War Powers Act….sorry….I wandered off to a REALLY interesting article. I’m easily distracted.
Japanese officials are giving up; Fukushima to be abandoned and entombed
Should’ve done that much, much earlier. People have been known to exist without any power. Wasn’t it prehistoric man who invented fire?
Write ‘em off as a loss and move forward.
Midori
March 31st, 2011
7:27 pm
Hi Paul
Paul – were you aware that Peadawg is now a “left winger”?
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
7:27 pm
josef:
Check these out …………. 1898 !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4jB96oIEyE&feature=related (historic film)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FAqSLMLQ8Q&feature=related (historic film)
AmVet
March 31st, 2011
7:30 pm
Typical Democrat, what a shame. You did so well on the first four!
For What it’s Worth (You hipsters will get it in a second), another anti-nuclear message put to song by five legitimate superstars…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjU6JKkKQP4
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
7:31 pm
I try to keep it hidden, but it does creep out…especially after dark!
LOL!!!!! This wasn’t based on you by chance, was it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCG4XsfjYVE
Soothsayer
March 31st, 2011
7:31 pm
Jay, things are getting a little slow. You’re either going to have to uncage WOW or start a new thread about illegal immigration or the FairTax.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 31st, 2011
7:32 pm
……………… and this one (especially at the 40 second mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K45ECwWVl8&feature=related (historic film)
Jay
March 31st, 2011
7:33 pm
Google nuclear and downwinders, and you’ll find more “fallout” evidence. I was working in Nevada in the early ’80s when the scandal broke about the gov’t lying about radiation exposure from above-ground testing.
In the ’50s, the city seal of Vegas had a mushroom cloud on it — the tests were that big of a tourist attraction at the time.
RW-(the original)
March 31st, 2011
7:33 pm
That Fox story is just heart-rending.
On an unrelated note great start for the Braves. I also have to give in to those of you that want to claim tomorrow as Opening Day. Even the Braves pocket schedule says tomorrow is the opener…even though they don’t play.
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
7:36 pm
Scout
I’m fascinated by those film clips from the turn of the last century…
But…the Buffalo Soldiers ain’t real popular in this household!
Doggone/GA
March 31st, 2011
7:37 pm
“LOL!!!!! This wasn’t based on you by chance, was it?”
Wish it had been!
Paul
March 31st, 2011
7:37 pm
Midori
Glad I was sitting down when I heard that. Didn’t do much good, though – still fell out of my chair.
Jay
Guy named Mike Peters does the comic “Mother Goose and Grimm.” Did a few on Grimmy and friend going to Chernobyl for vacation. Got complaints about him making fun of such a serious circumstance.
This is how he responded: ” I did these strips because I was outraged that the government of Ukraine was asking tourists to come to Chernobyl for vacation. When a nuclear power plant implodes like Chernobyl, it takes a lot more than 30 years (maybe 300) to become safe enough to bring kids.
I was hoping that the strips would interest my readers enough to talk about it and learn that this story is true — just Google “holiday in Chernobyl Ukraine” and find out more. It’s hard to make these things up.”
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
7:37 pm
JAY
Great minds…I was just about to post about the downwind cases still being argued around Hanford…
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 31st, 2011
7:39 pm
This is totally off-topic. I had never heard this before and can’t vouch for the accuracy of it but it sure is interesting……..
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/31/the-mystery-behind-moammar-gadhafis-birth-some-say-hes-jewish/?ncid=webmail
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
7:41 pm
PAUL
Back in the early 90s our school had a group of kids we called our “Chernobyl Babies” who had been brought to Atlanta from Byelorussia for treatment and study…not all of them made it…
Normal
March 31st, 2011
7:44 pm
Scout,
you got one of these?
http://www.marines.mil/news/publications/Documents/MCO%203500.70.pdf
AmVet
March 31st, 2011
7:44 pm
RW-(the liar), kudos. You really got your slobbering pals in a tizzy downstairs. Several of the lamebrains ganged on to your nasty prevarication.
Well played, stalker.
Now play dumb. You do it to perfection.
Can you tell me please, who won?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjU6JKkKQP4
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
March 31st, 2011
7:45 pm
josef:
I hear you. They were bad news for the Native Americans.
getalife
March 31st, 2011
7:45 pm
Thanks Midori.
I was thinking when they would start the cement job.
Paul
March 31st, 2011
7:46 pm
josef nix
That sure made it real, didn’t it? That’d be tough to see.
Anyway, made some Scotch Broth over the last couple of days, biscuits cool enough to eat.
Pleasant evening, all -
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
March 31st, 2011
7:48 pm
Normal:
Nope but I did go to CBR Training during my stiint with my prior agency.
As we used to call it “Better Living Through Chemistry”.
As I am sure you know there is some stuff out there that makes radiation look tame.
Deep Throat
March 31st, 2011
7:49 pm
Amvet the fake, you have been outed, I knew it all along.
RW-(the original)
March 31st, 2011
7:50 pm
amvet,
If I post something you said and it happens to be a lie, it remains your lie.
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I Yam What I Yam
March 31st, 2011
7:52 pm
I’m afraid a prayer for those brave souls is all that anyone could offer at this point. I hope something good comes from it.
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
7:53 pm
Hillbilly
@ 7:09
I could have gone all day without that!
However the Jewish component of Libya’s population was significant and up until the rise of Mussolini and the anti Jewish pogroms of the late 1940s they had lived in relative peace and had good relations with their non Jewish neighbors…
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
7:56 pm
HD
I saw something similar when things first went south in Libya. From Back in Feb….
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/22668/Default.aspx
and
http://israelinsider.net/profiles/blogs/with-a-jewish-grandma-and-a
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March 31st, 2011
7:58 pm
RW:
I was gonna send you an e-mail warning that AmVet has now placed his bullseye on your forehead. If nothing else, he’s predictable.
AmVet’s nothing without his imagined enemies. Gotta flex his digits somehow.
(ISH)
Soothsayer
March 31st, 2011
8:00 pm
I’m taking bets but this might be the funniest SNL skit of all time. And how appropriate to this thread. You have to bookmark or favorite this skit. You’ll love it.
AmVet
March 31st, 2011
8:02 pm
I’m out before I get banned.
You guys deal with the scumbags here…
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March 31st, 2011
8:02 pm
(ISH)
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March 31st, 2011
8:04 pm
Just to clarify…the “S” in my ISH stands for “smile” not scumbag.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 31st, 2011
8:05 pm
josef @ 7:53
I don’t know much about it. Makes one wonder if he doesn’t have some sort of self-loathing issues, for whatever reason. I do hope somebody manages to topple him, somehow. If he stays in power, the blood bath will only have been post-poned, not prevented.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 31st, 2011
8:07 pm
I’m pretty sure postponed doesn’t have a hyphen. Maybe I just threw that in to flush out the grammar nuts.
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March 31st, 2011
8:09 pm
Rumor has it, Hitler was also Jewish.
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
8:10 pm
Hillbilly
We need to remember Heydrich’s “issues…” and, as you know, there are a couple of those here on the blog (no, NOT AmVet)…
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 31st, 2011
8:14 pm
Rumor has it, Hitler was also Jewish.
I’ve heard that as well. Don’t know enough about it to know if anybody has ever come up with good evidence or not. He was a monster, whatever he was.
josef nix
March 31st, 2011
8:17 pm
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That one on Adolf is an intrigue…but there has never been any real substantive evidence…one sort of has to accept that Hitler’s father, Alois, was the lilligitimate son of Frankenberger which has not been substantiated…some DNA tests make the same claim, but then, Jewish (also in his case, African) DNA would be fairly common in that part of Europe…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 31st, 2011
8:21 pm
You’re either going to have to uncage WOW or start a new thread about illegal immigration or the FairTax.
Well, I’m begging Bookman: please, pretty please don’t write anymore about the FairTax. It brings out all the tax cheats and IRS haters and pretty soon it breaks down to just a slam on guvmint in general. And I don’t need anymore about illegal immigration. I already wrote the solution but you never paid me no mind. Hint: It involves us rednecks, our pickup trucks, and gas money.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 31st, 2011
8:25 pm
Sooth
Not even close. The funniest SNL skit of all time (excluding any of Eddie Murphy’s skits) is this one….
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/update-palin-rap/773781/
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March 31st, 2011
8:27 pm
Lawd ah mercy, josef….Jews are/were ever-where.
(IW&SH)
Another freebie on AQAP, which seems to be our greatest threat at the moment.
AQAP and the Vacuum of Authority in Yemen
AQAP and the Vacuum of Authority in Yemen is republished with permission of STRATFOR.
RW-(the original)
March 31st, 2011
8:34 pm
Did I doze off and write something about anyones voting record?
Didn’t think so…