Watchdog says Black Panther case handled correctly

From The Washington Post:

The Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) has concluded an investigation finding that politics played no role in the handling of the New Black Panther Party case, which sparked a racially charged political fight.

After reviewing thousands of pages of internal e-mails and notes and conducting 44 interviews with department staff members, the OPR reported that “department attorneys did not commit professional misconduct or exercise poor judgment” and that the voter-intimidation case against the Panthers was dismissed on “a good faith assessment of the law” and “not influenced by the race of the defendants.”

The OPR investigation was launched at the request of U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith, Republican of Texas and chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. Here’s the guts of its findings, as related in a letter to Smith from OPR Counsel Robin Ashton:

blackpanthers

In a sane world, that would be that. Unfortunately, we do not live in a sane world. We live in a world in which too many people have too much invested in feeling themselves the downtrodden victim of the black man to let this foolishness die.

– Jay Bookman

384 comments Add your comment

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
12:53 pm

“Watchdog says Black Panther case handled correctly”

Why of course it was.

Such incredible silliness, with more to follow below I guess….

hahaha!!!

March 30th, 2011
12:56 pm

So……an office inside the very department that is being accused of obvious racism says they themselves did a wonderful job?!?!?! Hahahahaha!!!!

As usual Jay, thanks for the laugh!!!

Forrest Gump

March 30th, 2011
1:00 pm

Sorry I ruined your Black Panther party….

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
1:00 pm

We live in a world in which too many people have too much invested in feeling themselves the downtrodden victim of the black man.

Help! I’m being repressed!

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
1:02 pm

In a sane world, that would be that. Unfortunately, we do not live in a sane world. We live in a world in which too many people have too much invested in feeling themselves the downtrodden victim of the black man to let this foolishness die.

If this were Game Seven of the World Series, that would be the curveball that would be a call strike three with the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
1:03 pm

By the way….

If any of you feel repressed by me, I’m not doing it intentionally. :)

Call it like it is

March 30th, 2011
1:03 pm

Well lets see………nah nevermind not worth it…..this blog should end in 3…..2…….1……………..

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
1:04 pm

Ok…..let’s wait for all the “colorful” comments that’ll be coming soon. In 5, 4, 3, 2,1………….

Peadawg

March 30th, 2011
1:05 pm

Oh goody…I can count too. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. See!

@@

March 30th, 2011
1:07 pm

jay, I’ve always seen the Black Panthers as your team’s problem. The GOP doesn’t pigeonhole people.

The Black Panthers are like birds of prey….crapping all over the black community.

Again…it’s the public perception thingy.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
1:08 pm

Hi SoCo!! Well at least you didn’t repress those Tigers in the Iron Bowl.

PS: I’m sorry for that, but I just HAD to peck at you with that one. Please forgive me. Bad Debbie Bad, Bad, Bad. :sad:

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
1:09 pm

@@ the new BPP have no political affiliations.

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
1:13 pm

Debbiedo @@ the new BPP have no political affiliations
What a crop of sh–

@@

March 30th, 2011
1:14 pm

Debbie:

@@ the new BPP have no political affiliations.

But according to the DNC, African Americans belong to them by an overwhelming majority. In other words, they like to claim blacks as theirs. It’s they (the DNC) who ties ‘em up with a colored ribbon.

Paul

March 30th, 2011
1:15 pm

There was a great deal of controversy over this. However, the Office of Professional Responsibility did a thorough job of examining all the material and interviewing all necessary witnesses.

This should be the end of it.

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:15 pm

Just for clarity’s sake….. so it’s now ok for the KKK to show up outside of polling locations?

Boy, they’ll be thrilled to hear this.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
1:15 pm

DeepThroat (my what a moniker!! One is almost tempted to ask the obvious question “How deep…”) – can you prove otherwise?

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:15 pm

Cool, so I guess the left will have no problem when Robert Byrd KKK types show up with wooden crosses at polling stations.

So Bookman is fine with Black Panther bigots showing up with billy clubs to intimidate voters.

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:16 pm

Interesting Jay….so someone can break the law and then not be prosecuted because they are “his people” Interesting.

I wonder how the left would feel if it was the KKK in front of a voting center.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
1:16 pm

Deb

You might not wanna watch HBO tonight then….

In an HBO special airing Wednesday night, four former Auburn football players will say they received cash from boosters, according to the Sports by Brooks website.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/ex-auburn-players-tell-891151.html

People are getting their panties in a bunch over much of nothing. The NBPP is in no way affiliated with the original, nor are they representative of the “Black” community.

Jimmy62

March 30th, 2011
1:16 pm

Gee, what a surprise, the OPR counsel, a Holder appointee named to the office in December 2010, long after all this started, said there were no problems. She was put in that very position to make this very decision. He never would have appointed anyone who wasn’t going to whitewash this. Are you really that naive, Bookman?

I wonder what an actual outsider without a stake in this would think. The OPR takes their marching orders from Holder, who is never going to criticize the left wingers in then Justice Department.

This is like if we let Osama Bin Laden choose who investigated 9/11.

Sorry, if a person is standing outside a polling area with a bat and military-looking clothes, that right there is intimidation even if he never moves. I bet if I went and did the exact same thing at a poll in south Atlanta, there would be a very different result. Several people within th Justice Department have stated publicly that they will ONLY push voting rights cases when it involves minorities being oppressed or intimidated. In other words, if you’re white, they don’t care and won’t help. This whitewash is bull.

jconservative

March 30th, 2011
1:17 pm

What is all the noise about? I have never heard of this case.

Are we talking about some case from the 1960’s?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 30th, 2011
1:18 pm

Well, if this ain’t a disgusting case of libruls covering the butts of other libruls, I don’t know what is. Everybody knows if you see one of Those People near a polling place he’s only there to try and keep you from voting. The fact that you can’t see his gun or club don’t have nothing to do with it. I know good and well that White people never, ever kept people from voting in the whole history of this country. Now we got Those People trying to keep good White people from voting and the libruls say they’re pure as the driven snow. What a disgusting pile of steaming crap that is.

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:18 pm

“In an HBO special airing Wednesday night, four former Auburn football players will say they received cash from boosters, according to the Sports by Brooks website.’

Yep, the only problem is HBO didn’t say any of it was actually real. I saw the HBO special and no one is named in the piece.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
1:18 pm

I wonder how the left would feel if it was the KKK in front of a voting center.

Don’t they have to stand in front of a voting center in order to enter and vote? They can stand anywhere they so choose. That’s the thing about free speech in America. They can even stand in a pile of dog sh*t if they choose to do so. Depending on which candidate they’re backing, I might even stand there with them.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
1:18 pm

But according to the DNC, African Americans belong to them by an overwhelming majority. In other words, they like to claim blacks as theirs. It’s they (the DNC) who ties ‘em up with a colored ribbon.

I must be missing something in my interpretation of what you’ve just said. AA’s as a whole, (race) has nothing to do with BPP’s being part of the DNC.

Jay

March 30th, 2011
1:19 pm

Sorry guys.

The Bush Justice Department made the decision that this was too insignificant to deserve criminal prosecution, so go take it up with them if you have a problem.

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
1:20 pm

@@,

“The GOP doesn’t pigeonhole people.”

Thanks @@ for the laugh…I needed it after the past 2 weeks. That was quite funny.

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:20 pm

“too many people have too much invested in feeling themselves the downtrodden victim of the black man to let this foolishness die.”

You mean like Jesse, Al and many other bigot racist democrats blaming everything on whitey, Jay? You mean like Cynthia Tucker who gets paid by COX Communications for writing articles about how white people keep black people down?

same thing?

March 30th, 2011
1:20 pm

So people seem upset that these folks were carrying bats and wearing military style clothes…however the Tea Partiers are patriots for bringing guns (legally, I might add) to their rallies?

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
1:21 pm

Several people within th Justice Department have stated publicly that they will ONLY push voting rights cases when it involves minorities being oppressed or intimidated. In other words, if you’re white, they don’t care and won’t help.

Hmmmm, then there’s only a few years until you can do that. Whites will no longer be majority in the US coming fairly soon. Just think, now whites can qualify for the minority protections that they despise so damned much now. I can’t wait to see an entire race flip-flop on minority protection. The one question is how much of a percentage will flip-flop?

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:21 pm

Southern….you are right no voter intimidation was done right?

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:21 pm

“The Bush Justice Department made the decision that this was too insignificant to deserve criminal prosecution, so go take it up with them if you have a problem.”

LOL!!!!! That’s your defense, Jay? Bush would have had one month to investigate before the Kenyan Marxist, as you call him, shut it down.

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
1:21 pm

I love how Andrew Serwer over at the Washington Post put it:

To sum up: The New Black Panther tale — a years-long journey into the fevered right-wing imagination that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and led to no shortage of scurrilous accusations of racism against the first black president and attorney general — was a colossal waste of time and taxpayer resources.

In the past, the OPR has not hesitated to excoriate the Justice Department. In 2008, it found that the Justice Department’s political leadership had broken civil service laws by prioritizing partisan affiliation in its hiring practices. OPR also determined in 2009 that the political leadership of the Civil Rights Division under Bush had done the same.

Of course, it was those very same disgruntled Bush partisans, hired during an era of politicization at the Department, when the leadership exchanged racist emails and talked openly about purging liberals from the division who provided the fuel for the baseless accusations of anti-white racism that have dominated the conservative media for the past two years. After the Justice Department changed hands, the cause was picked up by the conservative dominated U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. Like the civil rights division itself, under Bush the agency that once laid the groundwork for the civil rights legislation of the 1960s became a corrupted partisan instrument, narrowly focused on “toppling” the Obama administration with a flawed voter intimidation case framed in conjunction with a Republican political operative.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
1:21 pm

Cool, so I guess the left will have no problem when Robert Byrd KKK types show up with wooden crosses at polling stations

Someone is showing their ignorance on what a good faith assessment of the law means based on the actual facts and not some fake poutrage.

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:22 pm

Same…..please show a picture of a video of a tea party supporter with a gun at a demonstration.

I can post the video of the black panthers (fools)

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 30th, 2011
1:23 pm

The Bush Justice Department made the decision that this was too insignificant to deserve criminal prosecution, so go take it up with them if you have a problem.

Well, I might of knowed. Here comes the “Bush done it” excuse. The only good President this country has had in 10 years, and the libruls got to blame everything on him.

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
1:23 pm

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:24 pm

SoCo 1:18 – it’s illegal to publicly advocate for a candidate or position within a certain distance of every polling place. they were clearly in violation of this.

maybe its too insignificant to prosecute. but if the shoe were on the other foot, I doubt it would be “too insignificant”

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
1:24 pm

Throat, one of my pet peeves is when people misunderestimate using words and phrases correctly.

The phrase is crock of sh–. Not crop, ya hayseed…

Poor, misunderstood cons.

They don’t have the testicular fortitude to understand why, or even acknowledge that they are, pretty much a whites only party…

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
1:24 pm

jm, its only politically correct for a minority, a person of color , an illegal alien to get all the safe passes, they keep getting the get out jail free cards from the left.
I’ll give anybody respect, but I expect the same in return, I’m a white male, I have friends from a vast mixture of ethnicity’s and back grounds, I DO NOT support the KKK and what they are about and I DO NOT support the Black Panthers and what they are about.

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:24 pm

Racist New Black Panthers advocate killing whites & their babies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSuiSIWRn7s&feature=related

Libertarian

March 30th, 2011
1:24 pm

Since the NBPP is mad with Obama now, I guess that means they will be backing a Republican candidate for president? :-)

Guy Incognito

March 30th, 2011
1:24 pm

“New Black Panther Leader Malik Zulu Shabazz: Obama Works for White Man”

I guess DDR is right. I’m sure the BPP members will be voting R next time around

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:25 pm

New Black Panther Racist Rant and Killing All Cracker Babies?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV2E-4h7fow&feature=related

Guy Incognito

March 30th, 2011
1:25 pm

Libertarian

You’re too quick 4 me

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
1:25 pm

SoCo you’re talking about this?

In this 2004 photo, Auburn’s Stanley McClover picks up coach Tommy Tuberville after they defeated Louisiana State in Auburn on Sept. 18. In an HBO special, McClover reportedly will say that during his recruiting process he got $500 in a handshake from LSU, other money handshakes from Auburn and Michigan State, and sexual favors from Ohio State.

That was in 2004 Jeesh!! 2004, 2010, see the difference? BTW I’d be more worried about Jim Tressel giving “favors” to freshman!! I can just see him, in that red vest and tie, him and that big ugly buckeye standing on the corner, coercing young, vulnerable men with favors while they call him “daddy”. Shiver. That’s enough to make anyone very, very afraid.

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
1:25 pm

Amvet go back to work greeter.

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:25 pm

AmVet…..”a whites only party”…..your ignorance is bliss!!

Jimmy62

March 30th, 2011
1:27 pm

Same thing: Just to fill in your third grade education, there are things called voter intimidation laws which are supposed to prevent people from intimidated voters with baseball bats at polling places. You want to intimidate voters anywhere else, like say a political rally, go ahead. There’s no law against that.

Two different situations, two different sets of laws. Not hard to figure out.

SoCo: The question is whether only minorities should have their rights protected, or everyone. Holder and his Justice Department seem to feel only minorities’ rights get protected, the rest of us just have to deal. It doesn’t matter who is minority or majority, the law should be executed the same. There was this whole separate but equal thing that we got rid of long ago, but Holder has brought it back in this peculiar form.

mm

March 30th, 2011
1:27 pm

This is just another case of some Fox News fake outrage about a non-issue. The polling place these guys were standing around at was in a very black district. Exactly who were they intimidating?

The wingies hate when their fake stories are shown for what they really are. BS.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
1:28 pm

Now, now boys, play nice.

FOUR black US Representatives in 80 years.

You’re doing a heckuva job, cons…

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:29 pm

mm…..”a very black district” hmmmm the government should look into this and see about taking their city rights away……similar to Sandy Springs and Dunwoody eh? clown!

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
1:29 pm

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:29 pm

Good grief. This has all just gone too far. I’m for equality as far as the eye can see.

But we’ve got folks suing the state for letting a city incorporate itself on the grounds that it violates civil rights (because the racial makeup isn’t ok with them), while some folks can go intimidate voters? Boggles the mind.

HDB

March 30th, 2011
1:30 pm

same thing?

March 30th, 2011
1:30 pm

Ok George W – here’s the link, and the beginning of the text…

http://coloradoindependent.com/45261/from-the-liberty-file-hot-tea-and-warm-guns#

Who brings a gun to a tea party? Lots of attendees at a Tea Party on Saturday in Alamagordo, N.M., for example.

Notes on the event from the New Mexico Independent:

About 300 people attended an anti-Obama rally in Alamogordo Saturday, and many of the protesters showed up at the rally armed with holstered hand-guns and loaded assault rifles.

Protesters cited a number of issues for the event, including the health care reform in Congress, taxes, gun rights, allegations that Obama is not an American citizen. One attendee cited his displeasure with what was described as an international police organization that will take control away from local police departments as a result of a recent Obama secret directive.

Those gathered to protest said they brought their guns because they wanted to draw more attention to the event, because they wanted to exercise their Constitutional Rights, to show responsible gun ownership. One protester threatened armed insurrection if steps are not taken to restore “Constitutional” governance.

Mick

March 30th, 2011
1:30 pm

Is there any issues where obama is not partnered with the bogeyman?

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:31 pm

HDB….ok good picture……For the record I do not condone that behavior.

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
1:31 pm

Amvet the name caller, the agitator, the i— fill in the blank

@@

March 30th, 2011
1:31 pm

I won’t be pulled into jay’s race baiting, so last comment on this thread.

Unfortunately, we do not live in a sane world.

No we do NOT. We live in a world where elitist politicians (dems) lay claim to a segment of the American electorate based solely on their color. It has very little to do with the people themselves.

We live in a world in which too many people have too much invested in feeling themselves the downtrodden victim of the black man to let this foolishness die.

We also live in a world where a group of elite politicians (dems) feel themselves to be the champions of the black community…believing that blacks can never become champions in their own right.

Gimme a break. Subversive racism–the worst KIND in my opinion.

Goodbye.

Jimmy62

March 30th, 2011
1:31 pm

Granny: The OPR might have done a good job in the past, but Holder appointed the counsel in December, and he did it specifically so she would be in place for this case. Who cares about their record previous, they were under a different leadership, one not hand-picked by Holder to protect his view of things.

And Jay, there were specific reasons why this wasn’t tried as a criminal case, but that doesn’t mean the dude is innocent. That’s like saying a criminal is innocent because the case was moved to a different jurisdiction to get fresh jurors. A change of the law someone is tried on doesn’t make them any more innocent than a change in venue. Your logic is off today.

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:32 pm

Harry Reid is starting a government shutdown.

md

March 30th, 2011
1:32 pm

“In an HBO special airing Wednesday night, four former Auburn football players will say they received cash from boosters, according to the Sports by Brooks website.”

And one of them is fingering Ohio St………that should make the Tressel debacle even more interesting.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
1:32 pm

ONE black US Senator is 110 years.

Republican diversity.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
1:32 pm

Holder and his Justice Department seem to feel only minorities’ rights get protected, the rest of us just have to deal.

What a crock! Daily, prosecutors and others exercise their discretion about which cases to pursue on a variety of issues. It has long been demonstrated that often minorities have been treated differently than the majority and that the treatment is adverse to minorities.

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
1:33 pm

Jimmy 62

“he did it specifically so she would be in place for this case.”

Proof please?

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
1:33 pm

…so last comment on this thread.

:roll:

Mick

March 30th, 2011
1:34 pm

jm

Maybe a government shutdown is going to be caused by the repubican house unrealistic demands….

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
1:34 pm

carlosgvv

March 30th, 2011
1:34 pm

“In a sane world, that would be that”

In a sane world, after 50 years of Civil Rights progress, you would not still have people complaining about how much racism they encounter every day and compairing themselves to slaves. So, don’t look for the professional victims to ever go away. Not now, not ever, never.

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:35 pm

AmVet….sounds like you need to get your people to rise up…..only one black senator….hahaha

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:35 pm

Mick 1:34 – wrong. Reid is blocking Senate DEMOCRATS from passing a budget that could be sent to the House.

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:35 pm

“And one of them is fingering Ohio St”

Wonder if his finger smells.

Anyhoo, LSU and Michigan State are also named but the bottom line is that no one is named in the video. McGlover and others have changed their stories several times.

HDB

March 30th, 2011
1:35 pm

George W
March 30th, 2011
1:31 pm

Didn’t think you did; the problem is that THAT is the face of the Tea Party….and the selective animus that they bring forth speaks volumes! As I’ve asked countless times: If the Tea Party is against massive government spending, where were they when the nation got BUSHwhacked??

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2011
1:35 pm

What a shock. The government says the government was right to dismiss charges for a crime captured on video. Overlord logic.

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
1:36 pm

Oh and Jimmy62…

I think her appointment was more a response to the whole Monica Goodling fiasco don’t you?

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
1:37 pm

George, how come you aren’t posting about all matters racial at Ms. Tuckers, these days?

(Just kidding. I know, Granny got you banned.)

A laugh riot…

md

March 30th, 2011
1:37 pm

“This is just another case of some Fox News fake outrage about a non-issue. The polling place these guys were standing around at was in a very black district. Exactly who were they intimidating?”

I do have to wonder if the same video was produced from an all white district where whites were holding billy clubs in front of a handful of black voters if we would have the same outcome……..

In my opinion, we still have a long way to go…………..

Jay

March 30th, 2011
1:37 pm

What absolute nonsense from @@:

“We live in a world where elitist politicians (dems) lay claim to a segment of the American electorate based solely on their color. It has very little to do with the people themselves….

We also live in a world where a group of elite politicians (dems) feel themselves to be the champions of the black community…believing that blacks can never become champions in their own right.”

In other words, the overwhelming majority of black voters don’t make the decision on their own to support Democrats, they are somehow “laid claim” to by the Democrats? It has very little to do with the people themselves?

How does that work exactly?

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:38 pm

Yep these are the kind of fools that we all should invite over for dinner! Hide the nice silver!!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f89_1265819772

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:38 pm

Mick 1:34 – if you need more info, though you’ll never see the light…..

“House Republicans have grown increasingly frustrated that Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the majority leader, has failed to bring the Senate Democrats’ proposal to the floor.”

From the LA Times.

I’ve got a hard core Democratic buddy (hell I used to be a Democrat) who works on public policy. He and I have been arguing about the deficit and who’s responsible for months. He was up in DC this past week. He’s come to the conclusion the Dems are stopping progress on cutting the deficit, and said even he’d vote Republican at this point (sans palin, bachmann, huckabee, etc.)

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:38 pm

AmVet…..yep keeing brining up a subject that you know nothing about!! Oh wait you do that with every post.

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
1:39 pm

Amvet ONE black US Senator is 110 years
is what , you criticize and it comes back to bite, HA–HA—HA !
What ? SO you are not perfect either ?

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:39 pm

Deep…..great post….he is a coward!

HDB

March 30th, 2011
1:40 pm

@@
March 30th, 2011
1:31 pm

The other side of your coin is thus:

“We live in a world where elitist politicians (Republicans) lay claim to a segment of the American electorate based solely on their color (white). It has very little to do with the people themselves.

We live in a world in which too many people have too much invested in feeling themselves the downtrodden victim of the black man to let this foolishness die.

We also live in a world where a group of elite politicians (Republicans) feel themselves to be the champions of the white community…believing that only whites SHOULD become champions in their own right.

Gimme a break. Subversive racism–the worst KIND in my opinion.”

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:40 pm

Jay 1:37 – you haven’t been listening to Neil Boortz at all eh? :)

By the way, have all the liberals sent in their NPR donations? They might need them. Fund drive ends this week.

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
1:40 pm

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
1:37 pm
George, how come you aren’t posting about all matters racial at Ms. Tuckers, these days?

(Just kidding. I know, Granny got you banned.)

A laugh riot…

WAIT UP THERE AMVET BIG FELLA……A small correction…
George W got himself banned…..why do we keep seeing bloggers who do stupid vile things and then when they are called out – sure they did it but if they hadn’t been caught it would be ok????

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
1:41 pm

Wow: So Bookman is fine with Black Panther bigots showing up with billy clubs to intimidate voters

That’s just the thing, no voters were intimidated. Not one voter complained NOR, when questioned, claimed that they felt intimidated.

GeorgeW: Interesting Jay….so someone can break the law and then not be prosecuted because they are “his people” Interesting

What are you talking about?

Jimmy62: Sorry, if a person is standing outside a polling area with a bat and military-looking clothes, that right there is intimidation even if he never moves. I bet if I went and did the exact same thing at a poll in south Atlanta, there would be a very different result

I double dog DARE you to try it!! (There! That should do it!)

Wow: You mean like Cynthia Tucker who gets paid by COX Communications for writing articles about how white people keep black people down?

Could you perhaps name one article that she’s written that says that? I’ll wait.

DT: I DO NOT support the KKK and what they are about and I DO NOT support the Black Panthers and what they are about.

Neither do a lot of people. And……..?

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:42 pm

Granny…..why dont you call out AmVet for his vile remarks as well…..hmmmmm i wonder?

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:42 pm

“In other words, the overwhelming majority of black voters don’t make the decision on their own to support Democrats, they are somehow “laid claim” to by the Democrats? It has very little to do with the people themselves?”

Because race baiting bigots like Jesse and Al have had the bully pulpit for years telling black people who to vote for.

Remember the famous words of the great Atlanta bigot himself: Maynard Jackson: If he’s black, vote black.

What race of people are the poorest in the country? Blacks.

What party do blacks vote for overwhelmingly? Democrats.

What race is more likely to be sent to prison for rape, murder and theft? Blacks.

If the African-American race didn’t vote for Democrats, we’d never see a Democrat in office.

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:42 pm

BTW – rumor mill, Bachmann is trying to position herself for VP slot. She and Rubio are going to have to wrestle over it.

Mick

March 30th, 2011
1:43 pm

jm

Nice spin but reid needs something realistic to work with…

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
1:43 pm

jm,

“He’s come to the conclusion the Dems are stopping progress on cutting the deficit, and said even he’d vote Republican at this point ”

I have 100 Republican friends that say they would rather have Obama President than Palin, Bachmann, Huckabee, etc….they also have jet packs.

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:43 pm

WOW……..wow hahahahah

mm

March 30th, 2011
1:43 pm

“No we do NOT. We live in a world where elitist politicians (dems) lay claim to a segment of the American electorate based solely on their color. It has very little to do with the people themselves.”

Nice try. Actually, blacks vote for dems because the repukes p*ss on them everytime they are in the majority. Just like they are doing now.

And the repukes are p*ssing on the hispanics oo. There goes that vote as well.

Next year the only people voting for repukes will be old white senile farts like the ones on this blog and young white jerks who think they are going to be rich because they vote republican.

The wingnuts have really overreached this time thinking they had some kind of mandate.

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
1:45 pm

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:42 pm
Granny…..why dont you call out AmVet for his vile remarks as well…..hmmmmm i wonder?

just did

He’s a real man and he can take it without melting.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
1:45 pm

Granny, it’s called being a member of the Party of No personal Responsibility!

For the childish and oblivious, the fact segued off of the first one.

There has been exactly ONE black Republican US Senator, ever.

Spin away on that one ballerinas.

But never let it be said that you GOPers are not multi-dimensional.

You can also boast NO black governors in the past 138 years.

Yep, as I asserted, pretty much, whites only…

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:45 pm

mm…..And the repukes are p*ssing on the hispanics oo. There goes that vote as well.

If attempting to enforce immigration laws is p*ssing….then fine……keep paying for our southern neighbors that are taking your jobs!!! hahahah

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:46 pm

Granny……haha right…….

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:46 pm

DDR “Not one voter complained NOR, when questioned, claimed that they felt intimidated. ”

That’s such a bogus metric. I got violently ill after swimming in my gym pool a month ago. Didn’t complain.

Low and behold, found out this week they had a bunch of rehab people with contusions, and wearing diapers, that didn’t shower before using the pool and they’ve now posted warnings (that people will continue to ignore I’m sure). So I’ve stopped swimming in the pool.

Want people to just stop voting? Ridiculous argument you have there.

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
1:47 pm

mm,

“The wingnuts have really overreached this time thinking they had some kind of mandate.”

They did…to create jobs. Seems they’ve kinda forgot about that, huh?

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
1:47 pm

Jimmy62: The question is whether only minorities should have their rights protected, or everyone. Holder and his Justice Department seem to feel only minorities’ rights get protected

Dude, do you even KNOW what you’re talking about, what this story is referencing or what day it is? The polling station was in a BLACK COMMUNITY. How is Holder (who wasn’t even AG when this happened by the way), NOT protecting everyone’s (whites included) rights?

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:47 pm

AmVet……no black govenors…..sounds like you should take to the streets and teach your youth that politics is a better career choice than prision…..you like over 10% of the black population has chosen to do! keep up the good work.

jt

March 30th, 2011
1:48 pm

In other words, the overwhelming majority of black voters don’t make the decision on their own to support Democrats, they are somehow “laid claim” to by the Democrats? It has very little to do with the people themselves?

How does that work exactly?

Over 80% of employed blacks work for government as per government.

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, for example, has employed 614% more blacks than their proportion in the civilian workforce, and the U.S. Department of Education employed 473% more blacks.

The protected minority groups include blacks, Hispanics, Asians/Pacific Islanders, Native Americans, and women. The OPM Report for 2003 shows that, of the new federal jobs created, only 22.9% were filled by white males and other “non-minorities.” Tim Fay comments, “It wasn’t a very good year for white guys to apply for a federal job.”

They vote FOR their job.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
1:48 pm

What group of people are arguably the richest, per capita, in this country? Jews.

What party do Jews vote for overwhelmingly? Democrats.

Bigots tend to see everything in terms of color though…

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:48 pm

AmVet, explain this one, bigot.

Meet the Ex-KKK Grand Dragon Running for Mayor in Fla.

Former Klansman Seeks Political Office in Florida…as a Democrat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2695091/posts

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:48 pm

AmVet…..wow you are stretching now….haha

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
1:50 pm

Tick…tick…tick….

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
1:50 pm

George W,

“If attempting to enforce immigration laws is p*ssing….then fine……keep paying for our southern neighbors that are taking your jobs!!! ”

If the GOP keeps acting the way it does towards Hispanics, they might just find themselves a distant memory: http://tinyurl.com/5we3cwq

md

March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm

“That’s just the thing, no voters were intimidated. Not one voter complained NOR, when questioned, claimed that they felt intimidated. ”

Everything I read says otherwise………….plenty of testimony from poll watchers, and witnesses that state voters turned around and left vs entering the building through the commotion………….

Just because nobody went on record does not necessarily equate to your conclusion.

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:46 pm
Granny……haha right…….

glad to see you agree

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm

DebbieDo DT: I DO NOT support the KKK and what they are about and I DO NOT support the Black Panthers and what they are about.

Neither do a lot of people. And……..?

You support them by protecting them, if you do not support them, denounce them.
I double dog dare you.

Jay

March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm

jt, do you have a source for those numbers?

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:52 pm

Jew……hahaha keep wishing man….The Dems are doing a great job of bending over for them. I mean since when have you ever heard of a president suing a state because they are enforcing federal law…….

Jay

March 30th, 2011
1:52 pm

Don’t push your luck, George.

WOW

March 30th, 2011
1:52 pm

“Bigots tend to see everything in terms of color though…”

What was that you called white people, Vet? You are a living breathing contradiction.

“AmVet…..wow you are stretching now….haha”

Vet’s not all there in the head, George.

“The polling station was in a BLACK COMMUNITY.”

So what why were they there holding billy clubs? Also, if you think that’s ok then I guess you’re fine with the KKK standing in front of white community polling stations.

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:53 pm

Jay…….really???? I thought this was an adult blog. Freedom of speech ever hear of it?

md

March 30th, 2011
1:53 pm

“She and Rubio are going to have to wrestle over it.”

Rubio recently made it clear he has no intention of doing anything but playing senator for now…….

He needs more experience………..

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
1:54 pm

md

March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm
“That’s just the thing, no voters were intimidated. Not one voter complained NOR, when questioned, claimed that they felt intimidated. ”

Everything I read says otherwise………….plenty of testimony from poll watchers, and witnesses that state voters turned around and left vs entering the building through the commotion………….

Just because nobody went on record does not necessarily equate to your conclusion.

plenty of testimony? nobody on record? excuse me, but how can there be testimony recorded if nobody went on the record

Please tell us what it is you read and where and perhaps we can help you understand it.

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
1:54 pm

“I wonder how the left would feel if it was the KKK in front of a voting center.”

They’d Get Their Azz Headed To Them.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
1:55 pm

I just keep putting up facts to bolster my claim that the GOP is pretty much a whites only party, and all you boys do is keep on driving right around them.

And the funniest part?

Your future.

(But don’t look there!)

The demographics in this nation are moving WAY against you.

You boys better quit blogging and get REAL busy procreating.

HA!

And the crowd goes crazy…

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:56 pm

jewcowboy / mick – 1:34 keep sticking your heads in the sands. hide the facts.

mm

March 30th, 2011
1:56 pm

“If attempting to enforce immigration laws is p*ssing….then fine……keep paying for our southern neighbors that are taking your jobs!!! hahahah”

Last time I looked, not all Latinos are here illegaly. And if it were not for business hiring the illegals for cheap labor, they wouldn’t be here. So the very businesses you wingnuts defend on a daily basis are the cause of all the illegals in this country.

WOW,

Keep it classy. You prove my point.

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
1:56 pm

Jay why should jt have to vet his source the Obama admin don’t.

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:56 pm

AmVet……keep posting about your fantasy dreams……

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
1:57 pm

GeorgeW….now you do realize that, being the constitutional scholar all Republicans must be beause they get trained by Bachmann now, that the 1st Amendment only says that the government shall not interfere with your right of speech…Jay is not the government and this blog is not government owned. If Jay bans you, its because you failed to abide by the terms of use or frankly, he is just not that into you….but that is the right of the AJC.

Ya might want to go read that constitution again and this time think about it.

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:57 pm

mm…..who said we are against legal immigration?

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
1:57 pm

George W,

“hahaha keep wishing man”

It is not a wish…it is the reality of the moment. If the GOP continues using illegal immigration as a wedge issue, they will keep pushing the largest growing demographic into the open arms of the Democrat’s. The GOP ignores this at its own peril.

George W

March 30th, 2011
1:58 pm

Keep…..please post the “terms of use” for this blog…….

md

March 30th, 2011
1:58 pm

” HILL: [Shabazz] immediately started with ‘What are you doing here, Cracker?’ And he and Mr. Jackson attempted to close ranks. I went straight between them through the door to find our poll watcher, who was inside the building at the time…he was pretty shaken up…he was visibly upset.

QUESTION: What did he tell you?

HILL: He was called a race traitor for being a poll watcher, credentialed poll watcher for the Republican Party as a black man, and that he was threatened if he stepped outside of the building, there would be hell to pay.”

Looks like intimidation to me……………….what would some of you call it??

jm

March 30th, 2011
1:59 pm

The Democrats are ignoring the Tea Party at their peril.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm

Because race baiting bigots like Jesse and Al have had the bully pulpit for years telling black people who to vote for.

I am so glad you found that out!! Thank you for knowing the truth (and telling it to me). If not for your very real truth telling, I’d continue to be bullied for years and years by Jesse and Al. Thanks for that!! Now I can finally vote for who I want to vote for — a Republican (who calls me lazy, a welfare breeder, who discredits my value and input and who says I am a victim of the Dems). Thanks again!

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm

AmVet…

Only 45% of Black men graduate from high school in the United States.
• Just 22 % of Black males who began at a four-year college graduated within six years.
• 69% of Black children in America cannot read at grade level in the 4th grade, compared with 29%
among White children.
• 7% of Black 8th-graders perform math at grade level.
• 32% of all suspended students are Black. Black students (mostly Black males) are twice as likely
as Whites to be suspended or expelled.
• 67% of Black children are born out of wedlock.

Yep keep up the good work…..not my words just simple facts.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm

George are you really so ignorant that you cannot scroll to the bottom of the page and click on Visitor Agreement…… how do you manage to get out of bed without help in the morning?

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm

Yellow card.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm

But in an effort to be fair and balanced, I must admit that the GOP has a MUCH better record when it comes to black mayors.

Four.

Doesn’t even really seem possible, does it?

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm

jm,

“jewcowboy / mick – 1:34″

Sorry…what did I say at 1.34?

Tommy Maddox

March 30th, 2011
2:01 pm

So the Justice Department investigated the Justice Department and came to the conclusion that the Justice Department did nothing improper. Go figure.

ty webb

March 30th, 2011
2:01 pm

Jay, despite no prosecution of the matter. I would like to know what you think about the actual incident at the polling place? Thanks.

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
2:01 pm

jm,

“The Democrats are ignoring the Tea Party at their peril.”

The Orange Pekoe Brigade ignores independents and moderates at their peril.

ty webb

March 30th, 2011
2:02 pm

sorry meant “any” not “no”.

Scooter (The Original)

March 30th, 2011
2:02 pm

Great! So it’s OK to stand outside polling places and intimidate voters of other races. Is Jay really trying to sell that argument… NO?

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
2:02 pm

George W.

“please post the “terms of use” for this blog…….”

How about just being civil…would that work?

ODDOWL

March 30th, 2011
2:02 pm

If the extreme right wing, Herr Paul Von Broun type, Tea Party Republicans are frighten by those scary New Black Panther Party members intimidating Republicans at a Democrat polling station. I have even more depressing news for them. ACORN is back and they’re more powerful than ever because they’ve gone international and now have global financial support. Wooooooo Scary !!! The ACORN and Black Panther get out the vote operations are in full effect. Democrats victories in 2012 will be historic.

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:03 pm

AmVet….and it keeps going….

In 2001, the chances of going to prison were highest among Black males (32.2%) and Hispanic
males (17.2%) and lowest among White males (5.9%).
• Blacks account for only 12% of the U.S. population, but 44 % of all prisoners in the United States
are Black.
• Blacks, who comprise only 12% of the population and account for about 13% of drug users,
constitute 35% of all arrests for drug possession, 55% of all convictions on those charges, and
74% of all those sentenced to prison for possession.
• In at least fifteen states, Black men were sent to prison on drug charges at rates ranging from
twenty to fifty-seven times those of White men.
• In 1986, before mandatory minimums for crack offenses became effective, the average federal
drug offense sentence for Blacks was 11% higher than for Whites. Four years later following the
implementation of harsher drug sentencing laws, the average federal drug offense sentence was
49% higher for Blacks.
• 1,172 Black children and teenagers in the United States died from gunfire in 2003.
• A young Black male in America is more likely to die from gunfire than was any soldier in Vietnam.
• The Justice Department estimates that one out of every 21 Black men can expect to be
murdered, a death rate double that of U. S. soldiers in World War II.
• 1.46 million Black men out of a total voting population of 10.4 million have lost their right to vote
due to felony convictions.

Not my words just facts……

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:03 pm

jewcowboy 2:00 pm typo, should’ve been 1:43.

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
2:04 pm

md

Looks like intimidation to me……………….what would some of you call it??

using someone elses content without permission – ain’t there a name for that? </strong

jt

March 30th, 2011
2:06 pm

Jay- from the Fed——————-

Now comes an astonishing report from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management: “Annual Report to Congress, Federal Equal Opportunity Recruitment Program, Fiscal Year 2000,” released in April 2002.

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
2:07 pm

Amvet what about Supreme Justices, you got the number nominated by a GOP president ? Or what about the number of black Justices nominated by GOP presidents , that the Left attacked and tried to block their appointment.
Get a life clown.

Paul

March 30th, 2011
2:07 pm

Hey jewcowboy –

Welcome back!

You picked a heckuva thread to return to, though -

godless heathen

March 30th, 2011
2:07 pm

The NBP Party will be glad to hear that they can post armed reps outside the polling places for subsequent elections.

Jay

March 30th, 2011
2:08 pm

Ty, I think the behavior was despicable and foolish, but that authorities from the local policeman who told the guy with the nightstick to move along to the Bush officials who declined to waste government resources on a criminal prosecution to the Obama folks who got a restraining order against Mr. Nightstick handled it appropriately.

It is much ado about nothing.

WOW

March 30th, 2011
2:09 pm

“I must admit that the GOP has a MUCH better record when it comes to black mayors.”

The Democrats sure do have a great track record of black mayors who’ve gone to prison.

“a Republican (who calls me lazy, a welfare breeder, who discredits my value and input and who says I am a victim of the Dems). ”

What’s a welfare breeder?

“I just keep putting up facts to bolster my claim that the GOP is pretty much a whites only party, and all you boys do is keep on driving right around them.”

How many soldiers did you desert in Vietnam?

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:09 pm

Jay…..if it is much ado about nothing….why did you post a blog about it?

Chief

March 30th, 2011
2:10 pm

George W – is there a point to your posts? On the surface you appear to simply be an angry white supremacist. Grow up.

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
2:10 pm

jm,

“2:00 pm typo, should’ve been 1:43.”

Ahh…that makes much more sense. I was wondering if I said something the blog ate ;)

I have to call bs on your statement. NO democrat would say they would vote for the nut case Bachmann or Palin…I know many Republicans who say they wouldn’t vote for them. That is not to say there are Democrats that would vote for a Republican…just not those Republicans.

ty webb

March 30th, 2011
2:10 pm

Jay,
me too. thanks.

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2011
2:11 pm

Tom Sowell sees hope for the African-American community in the new Census data:

“The latest published data from the 2010 census show how people are moving from place to place within the United States. In general, people are voting with their feet against places where the liberal, welfare-state policies favored by the intelligentsia are most deeply entrenched.

“The movement of the black population– especially educated young blacks– is the most striking of all.

“In the past, the massive movements of millions of blacks out of the South in the early 20th century was one of the epic migrations of a people– comparable in size with the millions of the Irish who fled the famine in Ireland in the 1840s or the millions of Jews who fled persecution in Eastern Europe in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

“In more recent decades, blacks have been moving back to the South, however. While the overall black population of the northeastern and midwestern states has not declined in the past ten years, except in Michigan and Illinois, the net increase of the black population nationwide has increasingly been in the South. About half of the national growth of the black population took place in the South in the 1970s, two-thirds in the 1990s and three-quarters in the past 10 years.

“While the mass migrations of blacks out of the South in the early 20th century was to places where there were already established black communities, such as New York, Chicago and Philadelphia, much of the current movement of blacks is away from existing concentrations of black populations.

“Blacks are moving to suburbs, and even to cities like Minneapolis. Overall, the racial residential segregation patterns are declining in the great majority of the largest major metropolitan areas.

“Among blacks who moved, the proportions who were in their prime — from 20 to 40 years of age– were greater than in the black population at large, and college degrees were more common among them than in the black population at large. In short, with blacks, as with other racial or ethnic groups, those with better prospects are leaving the states that are repelling their most productive citizens in general with liberal policies.”

Great insight.

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:11 pm

Chief….nope read the previous posts from AmVet….just responding that is all…

How does posting FACTS make me a white supremacist…..What makes you think I am white?

md

March 30th, 2011
2:11 pm

“plenty of testimony? nobody on record? excuse me, but how can there be testimony recorded if nobody went on the record”

Never mentioned official testimony…………..

Check the definition of testimony………maybe we can help you understand it ………

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:12 pm

Ragnar….that article talks about blacks as if they are cattle……

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:12 pm

Jay. Ask yourself, if it was a bunch of KKK members (or some such group) outside a polling place, would you JUST think: “the behavior was despicable and foolish”?

Or would you think it was something more than just despicable and foolish? What do you think the ADL would say if it were Nazis?

Remember, understanding racism from a different position involves standing in someone else’s shoes.

Paul

March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm

George W

Not speaking for Jay, but it hightlights, 155 posts later, in spite of a professional investigation conducted by Justice’s Office of Professional Responsibility, that there are a significant number of people who can’t bring themselves to say “Well, that settles that.”

Remember the 20 percent rule? “Twenty percent of people will believe anything.”

Although sometimes it’s 25 percent. Some poll results been posted here – that occasionally rises to 50 percent.

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm

jewcowboy 2:10 – Probably not. But I was saying he would vote R, EXCEPTING Palin, Bachmann, etc.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm

DT: You support them by protecting them, if you do not support them, denounce them. I double dog dare you.

Please explain to me, HOW I protect them? This should be good.

Jm; That’s such a bogus metric. I got violently ill after swimming in my gym pool a month ago. Didn’t complain.

It’s like that old adage, if you don’t vote you don’t count. It can be used here as well, if you don’t complain then you are not affected, unhappy, or otherwise hurt by a decision or action.

Jm: Want people to just stop voting? Ridiculous argument you have there

Huh?

Jt: Over 80% of employed blacks work for government as per government.
The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, for example, has employed 614% more blacks than their proportion in the civilian workforce, and the U.S. Department of Education employed 473% more blacks

Jeesh you can’t win with you guys. If you don’t work, you’re lazy and a leech, if you DO work, it’s wrong because you work for the government.

Md: Everything I read says otherwise………….plenty of testimony from poll watchers, and witnesses that state voters turned around and left vs entering the building through the commotion………….
Just because nobody went on record does not necessarily equate to your conclusion.

See answer to jt above.

Wow: So what why were they there holding billy clubs? Also, if you think that’s ok then I guess you’re fine with the KKK standing in front of white community polling stations

If no one feels intimidated, if they aren’t making threatening motions, then they are within their rights to be there. That’s why we’re AMERICANS; because we believe in the concept of certain inalienable rights.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm

Granny, jcb, et al,

A huge percentage of the time, I just ignore the posters here who I don’t value.

It infuriates them.

Because?

It is a one way street.

And as we all know, this story always concludes with the same ending – they either move on and sooner or later, come back as someone “new”, or they get banned.

Either way, the band plays on…

People movin’ out
People movin’ in
Why, because of the color of their skin
Run, run, run, but you sho’ can’t hide
An eye for an eye
A tooth for a tooth
Vote for me, and I’ll set you free
Rap on brother, rap on
Well, the only person talkin’
‘Bout love thy brother is the preacher
And it seems,
Nobody is interested in learnin’
But the teacher
Segregation, determination, demonstration,
Integration, aggravation,
Humiliation, obligation to our nation
Ball of Confusion
That’s what the world is today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miZWYmxr8XE

carlosgvv

March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm

Since the early 1960’s, politicans have been falling all over themselves to see who can give blacks the most civil rights. None of them have ever bothered to say anything to blacks about CIVIL RESPONSIBILITIES. The results of this are there for all to see. Until blacks realize that civil rights and responsibilities go hand in hand, they will continue to lead the way in being at the top in crime and the bottom in education and income.

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2011
2:14 pm

Walter E Williams has grave problems with the policies flowing from the Department of Justice:

“The U.S. Department of Justice, led by Attorney General Eric Holder, rejected the results of Dayton’s Civil Service examination because not enough blacks passed. The DOJ has ordered the city to lower the passing score. The lowered passing grade requires candidates to answer 50 of 86 (58 percent) questions correctly on the first part and 64 of 102 (63 percent) of questions on the second. The DOJ-approved scoring policy requires potential police officers to earn the equivalent of an “F” on the first part and a “D” on the second. Based on the DOJ-imposed passing scores, a total of 748 people, 258 more than before, were reported passing the exam. Unreported was just how many of the 258 are black.

“Keith Lander, chairman of the Dayton chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and Dayton NAACP president Derrick Foward condemned the DOJ actions.

“Mr. Lander said, “Lowering the test score is insulting to black people,” adding, “The DOJ is creating the perception that black people are dumb by lowering the score. It’s not accomplishing anything.”

“Mr. Foward agreed and said, “The NAACP does not support individuals failing a test and then having the opportunity to be gainfully employed,” adding, “If you lower the score for any group of people, you’re not getting the best qualified people for the job.”

“I am pleased by the positions taken by Messrs. Lander and Foward. It is truly insulting to suggest that black people cannot meet the same standards as white people and somehow justice requires lower standards. Black performance on Dayton’s Civil Service exam is really a message about fraudulent high school diplomas that many black students receive…”

Libertarian

March 30th, 2011
2:14 pm

Can one liberal on the blog please just admit that what the NBPPs did was wrong?

And my two cents re: racial tensions…we do have a lot of racial tensions and problems still…especially in Atlanta. And the AJC is fanning the flames of racial tension on a daily basis.

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm

“George W – is there a point to your posts? On the surface you appear to simply be an angry white supremacist. Grow up.”

Cheif, Lil Georgie hs an obsession when it comes to anything dealing with “blacks”. The thread was right up his alley. You noticed how he had his collect data in .03 seconds…lol. He sits at home with his lil data in a Word doc, just waiting for when he can post it.

Poor Georgie….

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm

Howdy Paul,

Work has been kicking my bottom lately, but I have to say I’ve been avoiding this blog b/c it has become so acrimonious and personal. People aren’t debating the topic, as much as throwing insults at each other. It just got to be a bit much. Now I just pop in every so often, and if I see the comments are on the very ugly side, I leave.

“As citizens we have to be more thoughtful and more educated and more informed. I turn on the TV and I see these grown people screaming at each other, and I think, well, if we don’t get our civility back, we’re in trouble.” ~ Emmylou Harris

md

March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm

“using someone elses content without permission – ain’t there a name for that? </strong"

What in the world are you talking about???

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm

AmVet….great job….way to respond!!! hahahahaha

jt

March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm

This one is better Jay——————————straight from the leviathon’s mouth——————

http://www.opm.gov/feorpreports/2003/feorp2003.pdf

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
2:16 pm

jm,

“But I was saying he would vote R, EXCEPTING Palin, Bachmann, etc.”

Ahhh… apologies. That’s what I get for skimming ;)

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:16 pm

Joe…..you should be proud of my post? Shouldnt you? haha do the facts hurt…I know you like to live in lala land but sometimes the truth must be shared!

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2011
2:16 pm

Dear George W @ 2:12, “that article talks about blacks as if they are cattle……” I suppose, if one assumes that cattle drive themselves. Or if one thinks of leftist mayors and governors in the rust belt as rustlers, driving them away from where “they belong.”

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:19 pm

DDR “It can be used here as well, if you don’t complain then you are not affected, unhappy, or otherwise hurt by a decision or action.”

I’m sure dead murdered people don’t complain either. Your logic is infallible.

md

March 30th, 2011
2:19 pm

“If no one feels intimidated, if they aren’t making threatening motions, then they are within their rights to be there. That’s why we’re AMERICANS; because we believe in the concept of certain inalienable rights.”

There is “official” testimony (for granny) that staes intimidation did take place……….your talking points don’t seem to jive with the facts.

do you really believe that?

March 30th, 2011
2:19 pm

carlosgvv, congratulations on the most ignorant post I’ve seen on the blogs in awhile (2:13).

Perhaps it’s time to take leave of these blogs. They have become overrun with the worst of the worst in people.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:20 pm

“…give blacks the most civil rights…?

Wow.

According to the Founding Fathers, they were attributed to the creator with all of that unalienable stuff about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm

@Lil Georgie

Why would anyone be “proud” of a post as such? THose facts have nothing to do with me, but I laugh at you because of your OBSESSION over anything regarding “blacks” or even if it doesnt and your attempt to inject it into any topic.

Those “blacks” you hate so much must have really did a number on you…lol.
Do tell where this obsession comes from.

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm

Mr_B

March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm

Stipulated: The New Black Panther Party is a group for paranoid race-baiting idiots.

If being a paranoid race-baiting idiot were a federal offense, many here are in deep federal doodoo.

There are no sworn statements from anyone inviloved in this case that claim actual intimidation, that is nobody declined to vote or changed a vote based on the idiotic behavior of these clowns.

No itimidation, no federal case.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm

Redact to read, by the creator…

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm

DebbieDo DT: You support them by protecting them, if you do not support them, denounce them. I double dog dare you.

Do you support the KKK ? Do you denounce them? Why ?

jt

March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm

DebbieDoRight

That is BS for you to put words in my mouth.
Jay asked how blacks could be compelled to overwelmingly vote for democrats. I gave him one reason why this is so.

Unlike you, I would would never screw the black race over by voting democrat. What the feds are doing to these guys is a disgrace.It IS institutionalized racism. But you keep impowering them.(democrat lawyers).
Remember, there are more blacks in prison now than EVER were slaves, thanks to your Uncle Sugar daddy.
Truth hurts but I am not afraid of it.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
2:22 pm

Looks like intimidation to me……………….what would some of you call it??

Heresay. Without substantiation what you’ve just posted is nothing more than rumors, innuedo, hearsay and, gossip. Sorry.

DT: Amvet what about Supreme Justices, you got the number nominated by a GOP president ? Or what about the number of black Justices nominated by GOP presidents , that the Left attacked and tried to block their appointment.

I got it…..ONE!!! To All of the above the answer is ONE!!! Whooopeee!! Whadda I win?

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:22 pm

Joe….no obsession just facts……

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:24 pm

jt…….A freaking MEN!

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:24 pm

I hope that those people of all stripes who fought against racism, poll taxes, Jim Crow, etc in this country for 100 years, after 200 years of slavery, did not go to such lengths only to see that some new group could go forth to intimidate others without repercussion.

I didn’t, and I hope others didn’t….

The most sacred right in this country is the right to vote. (Fortunately now extended to everyone). And to see that trampled on in any way is not despicable, it is horrific.

ty webb

March 30th, 2011
2:24 pm

“Do tell where this obsession comes from.”

Now now “joe cool”. This obsession on race, and the interjection of it into every blog topic can hardly be placed at the foot of a singular commenter of a singular political persuasion.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:27 pm

jewcowboy, don’t worry about it brother.

Your input is appreciated.

Regarding the endless personal attacks, etc, by a very small minority, as I noted earlier, it always sorts itself out in the long run.

Or when the host finally gets fed up…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
2:27 pm

I sure hope these rabid demands for voter intimidation include these reported cases….should these not be investigated fully and completely? Are the right wingers appalled that these accusations of intimidation were looked into by the local clerks office and that no further action was taken?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
2:28 pm

s/b rebid demand for investigation and prosecution of voter intimidation

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:28 pm

For the legally inclined, the right to vote, is of course not a pure “right”. Ie, those with felonies, in prison, depending on the state, etc., may have had such right revoked temporarily. But that, of course, was not the point of my 2:24.

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
2:31 pm

Amvet why do you think so many take exception to you?

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
2:32 pm

“Joe….no obsession just facts……”

If that being the case, explain why the need to inject your “facts” when its not even on topic or relevant to the thread?

When you do that, that what shows your true colors and your obsession.
Please do tell where this obsession comes from.

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:32 pm

Keep – that was a pretty useless link, but all voter intimidation should be prosecuted. And I’m not a “right winger”

Normal

March 30th, 2011
2:32 pm

I posted this earlier this morning, but for those who didn’t see it…well, it Is interesting…

Mar 30, 1870:
15th Amendment adopted
Previous Day March 30 Calendar Next Day
Following its ratification by the requisite three-fourths of the states, the 15th Amendment, granting African-American men the right to vote, is formally adopted into the U.S. Constitution. Passed by Congress the year before, the amendment reads, “the right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.” One day after it was adopted, Thomas Peterson-Mundy of Perth Amboy, New Jersey, became the first African American to vote under the authority of the 15th Amendment.

In 1867, the Republican-dominated Congress passed the First Reconstruction Act, over President Andrew Johnson’s veto, dividing the South into five military districts and outlining how new governments based on universal manhood suffrage were to be established. With the adoption of the 15th Amendment in 1870, a politically mobilized African-American community joined with white allies in the Southern states to elect the Republican Party to power, which brought about radical changes across the South. By late 1870, all the former Confederate states had been readmitted to the Union, and most were controlled by the Republican Party, thanks to the support of African-American voters.

In the same year, Hiram Rhoades Revels, a Republican from Natchez, Mississippi, became the first African American ever to sit in Congress. Although African-American Republicans never obtained political office in proportion to their overwhelming electoral majority, Revels and a dozen other African-American men served in Congress during Reconstruction, more than 600 served in state legislatures, and many more held local offices. However, in the late 1870s, the Southern Republican Party vanished with the end of Reconstruction, and Southern state governments effectively nullified the 14th and 15th Amendments, stripping Southern African Americans of the right to vote. It would be nearly a century before the nation would again attempt to establish equal rights for African Americans in the South.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/15th-amendment-adopted

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 30th, 2011
2:33 pm

Don’t push your luck, George.

Well, I got hauling to do but it sure would be fun to stick around and see if George W. can match LA/Grand Forks/WOW, etc. for most times banned from a blog. After awhile we’ll replace “Banned in Boston” with “Banned by Bookman.”

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
2:33 pm

Can one liberal on the blog please just admit that what the NBPPs did was wrong?

They were wrong. They did it to create controversy and it worked.

jt: What the feds are doing to these guys is a disgrace.It IS institutionalized racism. But you keep impowering them.(democrat lawyers).
Remember, there are more blacks in prison now than EVER were slaves, thanks to your Uncle Sugar daddy.

The feds are screwing them by HIRING them in a time when there’s a DEPRESSION? Well, I know a lot of unemployed people who’d line up for that screwing….just saying. And about the blacks in prison part, uncle sugar and dem lawyers part……well……..did you remember to take your pills today? Just asking.

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:33 pm

HEY GUYS JOE COOL IS OBSESSED WITH ME…….haha isnt it cute!!

Normal

March 30th, 2011
2:34 pm

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm

One of my favorites AmVet… :)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
2:34 pm

jm…that link was to the direct record of 2010 voter initimidation claims against King Street Patriots.

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:35 pm

Debbie…..”people who’d line up for that screwing”??? Really!?!?! Where? haahha

getalife

March 30th, 2011
2:35 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
2:35 pm

You may know King Street for their recent “True the Vote” fiction with Not-So-Breitbart as speaker………

The Teleprompter Caliphate of Socialist Union thugs - Bingo!

March 30th, 2011
2:35 pm

“How many soldiers did you……”

Host, its your move. For all the marbles.
For all the credibility of this newspaper.

carlosgvv

March 30th, 2011
2:36 pm

do you really believe that

I told you something you did not want to hear and you reacted in a typical liberal knee-jerk way, just as I knew you would. Calling me names does not invalidate anything I have said and will NOT make it go away.

Paul

March 30th, 2011
2:36 pm

Deep Throat

“Amvet why do you think so many take exception to you?”

Displaced frustration over not being able to make a reasonable counter to his points?

WOW

March 30th, 2011
2:36 pm

“A huge percentage of the time, I just ignore the posters here who I don’t value.

It infuriates them.”

What’s really sad is the fact that Vet actually thinks we conservatives care what he thinks. The only thing that infuriates other posters is that fact that you consistently use racist language towards white people and Jay accepts it.

Actually Vet, most of us feel sorry for you.

“It is much ado about nothing.”

So it’s ok for black people to be racists. Got it.

“If no one feels intimidated, if they aren’t making threatening motions, then they are within their rights to be there.”

I love hypocritical left wingers.

“What in the world are you talking about???”

mm, Granny never ever ever makes any sense.

TaxPayer

March 30th, 2011
2:36 pm

All I know is that every time SoCo posts that graphic of head in hand, I start feeling another bout of repression coming on.

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:36 pm

Keep – not very apparent, and I have no clue who the King Street Patriots are…

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
2:37 pm

@ TY

I say that because on 2 seperate occassions YESTERDAY Lil Georgie interjected some talk re: “blacks” and some figures.

In the 1st blog, he posted it (which had nothing to do with the topic), but since no one bit on his baiting, he decided to wait until the NEXT topic Jay posted (which again, had NOTHING to do with race at all) to repost his same drivel, which would lead one to try and understand this facination or obsession about such.

Paulo977

March 30th, 2011
2:38 pm

KeepUpthe
GoodFight
“has long been demonstrated that often minorities have been treated differently than the majority and that the treatment is adverse to minorities” Why do we have to keep on reminding the society that this is true?

Jay

March 30th, 2011
2:38 pm

jt, unless I’m missing something, those links don’t say what you claim they say. For example, you allege that 80 percent of black Americans with a job are employed by government. But the federal report that you cite says that black Americans make up just 17.3 percent of the federal workforce, not that far out of line with their share of the overall population.

Again, I could be missing something. Where does that 80 percent number come from?

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
2:38 pm

Tom Sowell sees hope for the African-American community in the new Census data

Praise Jesus!! Tom Sowell sees hope!!!

md: Check the definition of testimony………maybe we can help you understand it

a. A declaration by a witness under oath, as that given before a court or deliberative body.
b. All such declarations, spoken or written, offered in a legal case or deliberative hearing.
2. Evidence in support of a fact or assertion; proof.

Hope that clears that up……………

md

March 30th, 2011
2:38 pm

Funny how some (granny and ddr) just ignore evidence because it doesn’t jive with their preconceived ideas. Heresay DDR?

It’s right here, read it for yourselves:

http://www.usccr.gov/NBPH/04-23-2010_NBPPhearing.pdf

Amazing what talking points can do to an individual………..threats were made……period.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:38 pm

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:27 pm

“jewcowboy, don’t worry about it brother.”

“Regarding the endless personal attacks, etc, by a very small minority, as I noted earlier, it always sorts itself out in the long run.”

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:39 pm

AmVet

March 8th, 2011
3:39 pm

“jm, go f your sorry self. “

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
2:39 pm

jm….I am sure you dont knwo who they are…Fox does not talk about them much. Maybe you’ll enjoy their handywork in falsifying posters at an event. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_AGWD7QT70

Mr_B

March 30th, 2011
2:39 pm

“that was a pretty useless link, but all voter intimidation should be prosecuted. And I’m not a “right winger”
You are correct sir. It’s just in this case, no one was intimidated.

stands for decibels

March 30th, 2011
2:40 pm

late to this one, but…

After reviewing thousands of pages of internal e-mails and notes and conducting 44 interviews with department staff members

J.C. on a pogo stick, how many teacher or police salaries could’ve been funded by what was likely spent on this absurd sop to the nation’s wingnuts?

Guy Incognito

March 30th, 2011
2:40 pm

I believe jt’s 80% figure comes from any gov’t position, not just fed. Also, gov’t schools must be included

Jay

March 30th, 2011
2:41 pm

As to George W., he also posted this gem the other day:

“hmmmm what else can you take from teh 60’s? Segregation was strong, gays were limited to virtually no rights, abortion was murder……hmmmm you are right I kind of liked those days.”

so yes, it’s pretty darn clear where he’s coming from, without even getting into his history on other AJC blogs.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:41 pm

“If no one feels intimidated, if they aren’t making threatening motions, then they are within their rights to be there.”

So if the Klan shows up at a polling place in a black neighborhood, that’s OK by you, as long as they don’t make any threatening motions?

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:41 pm

Jay, ever hear of that “broken windows” theory of policing?

These guys just broke the window. Next we’ll have people voting twice and thinking that’s ok (already happens sadly), then a variety of other things.

The 2012 election will probably be very sad to watch in many ways, no matter who wins.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:42 pm

“You are correct sir. It’s just in this case, no one was intimidated.”

So if the Klan shows up at a polling place in a black neighborhood, that’s OK by you, as long as they don’t make any threatening motions?

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:42 pm

Keep 2:39 – before you accuse me of being glued to Fox, you might go get some facts rather than just lobbing insults

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
2:43 pm

Paul, Paul, Paul , I did not know you were the Amvet, I did know several people posted with different names but I did not expect that from you.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:43 pm

“J.C. on a pogo stick, how many teacher or police salaries could’ve been funded by what was likely spent on this absurd sop to the nation’s wingnuts?”

So if the Klan shows up at a polling place in a black neighborhood, that’s OK by you, as long as they don’t make any threatening motions?

Liberals are so funny………..

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:44 pm

Redneck and Normal,

Good times in the asylum.

Niiice Paul.

Sometimes I feel like Randall P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.

Other times?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZPE82q2qoQ

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:44 pm

Jay….POST THE REST OF THAT POST……You left out the sarcasm near the end. Great work…..

md

March 30th, 2011
2:44 pm

“I sure hope these rabid demands for voter intimidation include these reported cases….should these not be investigated fully and completely? Are the right wingers appalled that these accusations of intimidation were looked into by the local clerks office and that no further action was taken?”

I get the sense that you posted that in defense of this case……….

Last I checked, wrong was wrong………regardless which “side” it comes from.

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
2:44 pm

@ Georgie

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzZZZZZZ (=|
Dont be mad you got called out.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
2:45 pm

GeorgeW:Debbie…..”people who’d line up for that screwing”??? Really!?!?! Where? haahha

You’re silly! :)

Taxpayer: All I know is that every time SoCo posts that graphic of head in hand, I start feeling another bout of repression coming on.

You’re silly too!! :)

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:45 pm

Joe….not mad…smiling all day every day.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:45 pm

Jay, would you like to weigh in on Bill Maher’s use of vulgarities to attack Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann on HBO? Or is that just like the Black Panther’s thing, it’s OK as long as the victims are conservatives?

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:47 pm

Harry….you are spot on.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
2:47 pm

jm…did not accuse you of being glued to fox nor did I sling any insults but interesting that you find a statement that “Fox does not talk about them much” to be an insult. I don’t blame you for misinterpreting a statement abot Fox to be an insult.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:48 pm

I surmise from the positions taken on this blog by the usual lib suspects that it’s OK for the Klan to show up at polling places in black communities, as long as they don’t make threatening motions or engage in verbal intimidation. Do I have that right?

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2011
2:48 pm

Dear Jay @ 2:38, I don’t know, but I share your doubt on the 80% number. While I suspect the percentages for black unemployment and black self-employment and black state employment are probably higher than for the population as a whole, I still don’t see it approaching anywhere near 80% of the total black population. Still, the real number is probably out there, or calculable from DOL data. Surely there is some econ grad student out there who wants to run the numbers.

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:49 pm

Um jay, why are me Lee Atwater comments getting banned?

md

March 30th, 2011
2:49 pm

“testimony is a solemn attestation as to the truth of a matter”

Truth isn’t restricted to court Deb……………

Jay

March 30th, 2011
2:49 pm

Harry, I think Maher’s language was vile. I gave up watching him a long time ago for just that reason. He’s a left-wing Coulter — they’re friends, you know — and I have no use for either.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
2:49 pm

md – 201 pages!!! Good grief, just tell us what page you are citing man and be done with it!! No one in their right mind is going to through 201 pages of legal mish mash if they don’t have to!!!

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:49 pm

Jay, there’s a certain named that’s banned by the technology? Lee?

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
2:49 pm

“So if the Klan shows up at a polling place in a black neighborhood, that’s OK by you, as long as they don’t make any threatening motions?”

NOPE, Never okay!
But they know they’d get their bed sheet wearing azzes handed to them.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:49 pm

Hello? Can I please get a liberal to respond to the Klan question?

stands for decibels

March 30th, 2011
2:50 pm

I think I get Harry’s point now.

Two doofuses calling themselves the New Black Panthers somehow equals a century of domestic terrorism against African Americans.

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:50 pm

Jay, Lee A-t-w-a-t-e-r is banned? Huh?

HDB

March 30th, 2011
2:50 pm

jt
March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm
“Remember, there are more blacks in prison now than EVER were slaves…”

Have you ever thought that the reason that occurs is that they have been TARGETED?? Incidents like this occur DAILY!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-against-exonerated-death-row-inmate-who-sued-prosecutors/2011/03/29/AF8tZPwB_story.html

Jay

March 30th, 2011
2:50 pm

No, jm, there’s a certain four-letter combination in Atwater that the BlueNose finds objectionable.

md

March 30th, 2011
2:50 pm

“You are correct sir. It’s just in this case, no one was intimidated.”

I suggest you also read the testimony in my link…………….Mr Hill stated under oath that the poll watchers had been intimidated…

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:51 pm

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
2:49 pm

“So if the Klan shows up at a polling place in a black neighborhood, that’s OK by you, as long as they don’t make any threatening motions?”

“NOPE, Never okay!”

Then I assume you can tell me why that would be any different from the New Black Panther incident?

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:51 pm

Jay 2:50 – well that’s totally whack. Hell, everyone should be able to roast Lee Atw-ter for what he did.

Lord rest his soul.

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2011
2:52 pm

Correction @ 2:48, total WORKING black population – I think that was the claim.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
2:52 pm

md… I agree. So why is it seemingly that neither the Republican state of Texas nor the DOJ investigating? Why do we not hear about the rage about these claims of initimidation? Could it be that the King Street Patriots are really tea partiers?

md

March 30th, 2011
2:52 pm

“md – 201 pages!!! Good grief, just tell us what page you are citing man and be done with it!! No one in their right mind is going to through 201 pages of legal mish mash if they don’t have to!!!”

I’m not the one that called it heresay……………….either read it or go on believing your falsehoods………

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:52 pm

“stands for decibels

March 30th, 2011
2:50 pm

“I think I get Harry’s point now. ”

No, clearly you don’t, but I have gathered from your posts on this blog that reasoning and critical thinking aren’t your strong suits.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:52 pm

“Jay, there’s a certain named that’s banned by the technology? Lee?”

jm, I too discovered that recently. So I got resourceful and just renamed him A$$water.

Fortunately for his ardent fans, the name Karl Rove is still OK with the evil censoring bot…

jt

March 30th, 2011
2:53 pm

Jay–considering that blacks suffer an unemployment rate close to 20%. (see link) The prison industrial complex takes another unproportional bite out of the population. The high percentage of unwed mothers that are stay at home, , the above figures of non-proportional government hires, and the latest census figures, with my trusty TRS 80 and extrapolation………….over 80% work for the government.(not that I trust any government figure). The situation is probably worse.

I am not necessarily saying this is bad. Merely stating one reason why blacks overwelmingly vote democratic.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
2:53 pm

md

nice try, but that link does not include the testimony of Larry Counts….

. So did you actually ever see the Black Panthers?

A. No I never seen them…

—————————-
Q. Did you ever become aware – and I know I asked you this but let me run through it – did you become aware that members of the New Black Panther Party were outside?

A. No….

—————————–
Q. did anybody from the Republican Party come in and speak to you during election day?

A. No.

Q. Let me be specific. There is a tall gentleman who was wearing a white shirt and blue jeans. His name is Chris Hill. Did he come in and speak to you?

A. Not that I recall, no.

Q. I’ll be explicit. If Mr. Hill is on videotape saying that he spoke to you and you indicated that you were afraid, you don’t recall any statement like that to Mr. Hill.

A. No. I had no reason to be afraid.

————————————
Q. And you never heard anybody inside the election room say that there are two members of the Black Panther Party outside?

A. No. Nobody was, you know. Communicating or talking about no Black Panthers on the inside.

——————————-
Q. Mr. Counts I only want you to refer to the photo at the bottom of the scene.

A. I ain’t never seen those two guys.

Q. OK just to be explicit so it’s in our written record, there appear to be two members of the – - I won’t even say that they are members of the New Black Panther Party — but the two gentlemen there in dark black uniforms and one of them has a nightstick. You don’t recall seeing either one of those gentlemen on election day. Is that right?

A. No…

—————–
Q. did you see any voters turned away at the polling site?

A. No.

Q. Did anybody who came in to vote indicate that they were concerned or worried about their safety?

A. No.

My previous link had embedded links to the transcript….

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:53 pm

I guess I can thank the BlueNose for stopping that four letter word (and others) though…..

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
2:54 pm

So that’s the deal, Jay?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

This dumb farmboy would never have figured it out!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
2:54 pm

Harry, poor thing…everyone ignoring your silly comments because we all know the KKK has the legal right to protest in a black community or a jewish Chicago community. That is the 1st Amendment. They do not have the right to initimidate voters in any community.

Next

ty webb

March 30th, 2011
2:55 pm

now now Jay. Coulter can also be pretty rough on her opposition, but Maher can’t hold a candle to her wit nor her intellect. Maher thinks he can say anything, and because he’s on HBO he can add the f-word to it and it’s comic genius. Both are rather adept at generating PR and that sells.

jt

March 30th, 2011
2:55 pm

HDB

You are preaching to the choir.
I am aware of Federal institutionilized Racism.

md

March 30th, 2011
2:56 pm

“So why is it seemingly that neither the Republican state of Texas nor the DOJ investigating? Why do we not hear about the rage about these claims of initimidation? Could it be that the King Street Patriots are really tea partiers?”

Have to ask them……..

Not on the right blog………(so ask Jay)

Who knows………..

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:56 pm

Granny….Lie Lie Lie Lie

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:57 pm

AmVet…..farmboy….hmmmm hardworking, earns a living and provides for others. I kinda like that name.

Let me see if I can think one up for you….

come on Jay!

March 30th, 2011
2:58 pm

Yes, where IS your outrage over a comedian like Bill Maher making offensive jokes about Palin and Bachmann?? This seems like cutting edge news – a comedian mocking a politician????

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
2:58 pm

Keep Up, poor thing…everyone ignoring your silly posts because we all know you are a typical liberal hypocrite, and know damn well that it would be plastered on the news 24/7 and would be Priority #1 of hte Justice Dept if the KKK attempted any such thing…

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
2:58 pm

md: testimony is 2. Evidence in support of a fact or assertion; proof.

THAT is considered testimony. It is made and/or affirmed in a legal context; as this case is legal in its bearing, just by saying something is “truth therefore testimony” is absurd.

Harry C: surmise from the positions taken on this blog by the usual lib suspects that it’s OK for the Klan to show up at polling places in black communities, as long as they don’t make threatening motions or engage in verbal intimidation. Do I have that right?

No you’re wrong. If you would’ve taken the time to read the posts that were posted earlier (by both cons and dems); you would’ve seen we’ve already been over that one. It makes no sense to go over it again just because you came in late to the conversation and are too lazy to read what was previously posted.

jm

March 30th, 2011
2:59 pm

AmVet 2:52 – thanks for the tip. If only my mind was more in the gutter than it already is, I probably would have figured it out without Jay’s help….

Granny Godzilla

March 30th, 2011
3:00 pm

George W

March 30th, 2011
2:56 pm
Granny….Lie Lie Lie Lie

transcript, transcript, transcript

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:01 pm

“Yes, where IS your outrage over a comedian like Bill Maher making offensive jokes about Palin and Bachmann?? This seems like cutting edge news – a comedian mocking a politician????”

I’m pretty sure that if Rush Limbaugh used those terms to describe Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama there would be a Congressional Hearing by the end of the day, and he’d be off the air in 24 hours.

BUt you can pretend there’s no double standard all you wish, just as you are doing with the NBP thing…we understand…

George W

March 30th, 2011
3:01 pm

Transcript doesnt make it truth….just ask Barry Bonds.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
3:02 pm

Regarding farmboys and speaking of fellow Jayhawks, on this date in 1932, one of my very greatest heroes, Amelia Earhart, becomes the first woman to make a solo crossing of the Atlantic.

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2011
3:02 pm

Funny, Usually Censors Know That Hardly Ever Can Evading Notes Slide Over Readers. Unless creating an acronym.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 30th, 2011
3:02 pm

Can anyone say WHITEWASH (no pun intended) !

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
3:02 pm

“Then I assume you can tell me why that would be any different from the New Black Panther incident?”

Honestly, 2 black dudes in fatigues wouldnt make me initially notice them, because i dont know what this NBP is suppose to look like.
Yet, if i saw two white dudes dressed in their mommas finest bed sheets I think i’d readily identify them and what their purpose was.

The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..

March 30th, 2011
3:02 pm

Is this a case of Americans getting dumber or getting wiser?

“SHOCK POLL: 43% Don’t Know Obama’s Religion…”

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 30th, 2011
3:03 pm

George W:

Don’t you know people NEVER lie under oath? Just ask Clinton.

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
3:04 pm

Bill Maher is a faux populist douchebag asshat always on the lookout for a running mob to jump in front of and say, “Wait, where are you going? I want to lead you.”

Silly cons didn’t mind being lead by him during his Politically Incorrect campaign.

George W

March 30th, 2011
3:04 pm

1811…..no kidding!

getalife

March 30th, 2011
3:04 pm

The welcher is back.

I will be good Jay but your trolls are lame and boring.

Just sayin.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:05 pm

So…question for you libbies who are telling us there was no evidence to support charges against the New Black Panthers, and it was all hearsay…

How did you feel about the Anita Hill accusations against Clarence Thomas?

Jay

March 30th, 2011
3:05 pm

Harry claims:

“we … know damn well that it would be plastered on the news 24/7 and would be Priority #1 of the Justice Dept if the KKK attempted any such thing….”

Actually, Harry, your assertion has already been tested and proved false. Back in 2006, a group of anti-immigrant Minutemen showed up at a polling place and began interrogating and trying to intimidate Hispanic-looking voters. One of the Minutemen even had a handgun strapped to his hip.

Did that become a huge media cause celebre, as you claim? Did the decision of the Bush Justice Department not to pursue criminal or civil charges become a national scandal on Fox News?

The answer to both questions is no.

stands for decibels

March 30th, 2011
3:06 pm

What I learned from Harry today:

Two doofuses run off a polling station because locals found them annoying = a century of domestic terrorism against millions of Americans.

this place is a font of in-fro-mayshun!

George W

March 30th, 2011
3:06 pm

Jay….interesting video on Sharia Law….yes it if Fox News and Bill but watch and think about it.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=76d_1301500529

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:06 pm

“SHOCK POLL: 43% Don’t Know Obama’s Religion…”

Obama doesn’t know his religion, why should anyone else?

George W

March 30th, 2011
3:07 pm

jay can you post video of the minutemen at the poling station?

JohnnyReb

March 30th, 2011
3:07 pm

Several good posts countering Bookman, including the observation the Justice Department has concluded the Justice Department handled the case correctly with no racial bias.

You can write it, talk it, debate it till the cows come home. I saw the video. Two panthers in the wrong place at the wrong time breaking voting rights laws. And, based on the stellar individuals involved having demonstrated their agendas in other videos, it makes it extremely difficult absence the race card to conclude they did nothing wrong. If you believe they did nothing wrong, we have ocean front property in Arizona for you.

As to “too many people have too much invested in feeling themselves the downtrodden victim of the black man…” That one is right up there with historic ridiculous statements. Even white supremacists blame white men, not blacks, for the overreach in laws ending discrimination. I have yet to meet someone who feels a victim of the black man.

Personally, I try to treat everyone equal, but I must admit to being extremely weary of the race card and its standard actors such as Jessie, Al, et al.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:07 pm

Jay @ 3:05…

So you’re OK with the Minuteman incident, just as you’re OK with the Black Panthers incident?

TaxPayer

March 30th, 2011
3:07 pm

DebbieDoRight,

I was trying to be silly with my post but I don’t know about GeorgeW.

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:08 pm

Jay 3:05 – but it dern sure well should’ve been prosecuted.

Uh....

March 30th, 2011
3:08 pm

Wasn’t Rush just on the air this week making fun of Michelle Obama’s wight? What a real man, mocking the wife of someone with whom he disagrees politically.

Anyhoo, when do the hearings start????

Libertarian

March 30th, 2011
3:09 pm

Harry

Those of us who live in the real world know exactly what would happen if the KKK showed up to a black polling place. All H ell would break loose.

getalife

March 30th, 2011
3:09 pm

“How did you feel about the Anita Hill accusations against Clarence Thomas?”

I felt she told the truth.

His wife is still bitter her, got drunk and called her.

Not a very nice woman and made money off of her husband’s decisions.

Culture of corruption is bad in today’s gop.

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
3:09 pm

Harry, all the Lib’s are quick to condemn the KKK but not a single one will denounce the Black Panthers.
Myself, I do denounce both.

The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..

March 30th, 2011
3:09 pm

Joe Cool
March 30th, 2011
3:02 pm

So you wouldn’t notice two black guys wearing black outfits with black panther patches and head gear with batons in their hands at a polling place? Are you blind?

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:09 pm

Uh… start? Ask dreamy Dennis Kucinich

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:09 pm

What I learned from stands for decibels today…

Liberals aren’t particularly bright.

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:10 pm

“Culture of corruption is bad” anywhere anytime.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:10 pm

“Myself, I do denounce both.”

me too

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

I suggest you also read the testimony in my link…………….Mr Hill stated under oath that the poll watchers had been intimidated…

Granny posted it for me. Seems like you were talking out the side of your neck about “Mr. Hill being intimidated” or the other pollers being intimidated. Hmmmm did you even READ your own link? Or just figured, (and rightly so), we’d see that it was 201 pages and would just say “forget that!!”? Good thing for Granny huh?

GeorgeW: Transcript doesnt make it truth….just ask Barry Bonds

If you lie under oath, you can be convicted. What idiot (besides bonds) would risk that?

Oh and granny – Go Granny!! Go Granny!! It’s your birthday!! Go!!! Go!!

TaxPayer

March 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

Did someone say minute”man”:

Forde, a notorious nativist who moved to Arizona to start her own Minutemen militia, was accompanied by Jason Bush, a white supremacist who authorities suspect is a serial killer, and Albert Gaxiola, a local resident who served time in prison for drug dealing. The murder occured in May of 2009 and Forde, Bush and Gaxiola were arrested 12 days later and charged with first-degree murder, burglary and aggravated assault.

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the Government Accountability Office (GAO) have each released reports that provide fresh evidence that the nation’s fiscal policy is on an unsustainable course and changes will be needed.

http://www.pgpf.org/Issues/Fiscal-Outlook/2011/03/21/Report-on-CBO-Budget-Analysis.aspx

http://pgpf.org/Issues/Fiscal-Outlook/2011/03/23/Report-on-GAO-Budget-Analysis.aspx

The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..

March 30th, 2011
3:12 pm

DebbieDoRight
March 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

“If you lie under oath, you can be convicted. What idiot (besides bonds) would risk that?”

Um…..bill clinton?

Mr_B

March 30th, 2011
3:12 pm

Harry Callahan: “So if the Klan shows up at a polling place in a black neighborhood, that’s OK by you, as long as they don’t make any threatening motions?””

They would be within their Constitutional rights to do so.
Within their right minds: not so much.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
3:12 pm

So you wouldn’t notice two black guys wearing black outfits with black panther patches and head gear with batons in their hands at a polling place? Are you blind?

Black people don’t seem to stand out in black neighborhoods. Sorry.

Dave R.

March 30th, 2011
3:13 pm

Sorry, but this administration and Justice Dept. hasn’t done a whole lot to engender any trust within me. Eric Holder is about the worst political hack we’ve seen in that office since Nixon’s John Mitchell.

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:13 pm

America is in Decline. It was a great couple hundred years…. time to go somewhere new.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:13 pm

The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..

March 30th, 2011
3:12 pm
DebbieDoRight
March 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

“If you lie under oath, you can be convicted. What idiot (besides bonds) would risk that?”

Um…..bill clinton?

Leg Lamp – 1
Debbie – 0

md

March 30th, 2011
3:13 pm

Well granny………very good testimony……..now the question is which one is telling the truth………

It is obvious that one of them is not……to add in another variable, I have read several articles that state intimidation is not a short term issue…….especially for those that live in the area………

And then this little trinket:

“In their sworn depositions, Mr. and Mrs. Counts stated that they had
not seen members of the New Black Panther Party at the polling site. In addition, both denied
speaking with anyone from the Republican Party about the Panthers. Further, Mr. Counts even
contended that he had never been interviewed by the Justice Department. His testimony on this
latter point was contradicted by his wife, however, who indicated that they each had been
interviewed by a team from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Department of
Justice several months after the election”

Hmm…………….

ty webb

March 30th, 2011
3:14 pm

“Black people don’t seem to stand out in black neighborhoods. Sorry.”

who new berets were so fashionable?

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
3:14 pm

Clinton huh? Well good thing Rove never took a witness’ stand you betcha. :roll:

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:15 pm

The projected rise of debt to 87 percent of GDP under the President’s budget is worrisome. Economists Kenneth Rogoff and Carmen Reinhardt conducted research on the experience of several countries that carried high levels of debt. They found that countries with debts above 90 percent of GDP tended to grow more slowly than countries with lower levels of debt.

The Administration estimates that federal debt under the President’s policies would stabilize at 77 percent of GDP over the next 10 years. By contrast, the CBO does not expect debt to stabilize under the President’s policies. Although a full accounting of the differences will not be available until the CBO publishes its final analysis of the President’s budget next month, the differences likely stem from the fact that the CBO does not assume that the economy recovers as quickly as the Administration does. The CBO also makes different technical assumptions that can influence projections of the budgetary costs of President’s various initiatives.

Will i am Smith

March 30th, 2011
3:15 pm

I liked Men In Black. What was wrong with it. I know. It was my co-star, wasn’t it.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:15 pm

“If you lie under oath, you can be convicted. What idiot (besides bonds) would risk that?”

um…Charles Rangel?

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
3:15 pm

Uh….

At least unlike Lynn Westmoreland, he didn’t call the Obamas uppity.

Though he was born in Georgia in 1950 and has live here his entire life, he swears he was unaware that the word is a pejorative historically used to describe African-Americans who have made economic, social, or political progress. Or that it was in any way offensive.

Riiiiight.

Oh and there was that ugly incident about him leading the opposition to renewing the 1965 Voting Rights Act…

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:16 pm

In assessing the relative riskiness of debt, credit analysts tend to look at interest costs as a share of revenues. The CBO estimates that interest costs under the President’s budget will be 10 percent of federal revenues this year, which is well above the levels seen in several other AAA-rated countries. More worrisome, the CBO projects that interest costs will grow to more than 18 percent of revenues in 2018―just seven years from now. Some credit analysts believe that if interest costs were to reach that level, the United States could risk losing its AAA status. A ratings downgrade would make Treasury bonds and notes less attractive to investors and likely result in higher interest rates.

The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..

March 30th, 2011
3:17 pm

DebbieDoRight
March 30th, 2011
3:12 pm

“Black people don’t seem to stand out in black neighborhoods. Sorry.

Still oblivious to life, huh? Granted, black people don’t stand out in black neighborhoods. But only fools would not notice two black guys standing outside a polling place wearing black panther attire and carrying batons in their hands. Anyway, enjoy life on planet “doright”.

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:17 pm

SELECTED REVENUE POLICIES IN THE PRESIDENT’S BUDGET

The most significant revenue policies in the President’s budget are:
• Permanent extension of tax cuts for families earning less than $250,000 and individuals earning less than $200,000; child credits; marriage-penalty relief; and lower rates on dividends and capital gains.

* Permanent indexing of the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) for inflation.
* An increase in the estate tax exemption to $3.5 million and a lowering of the top rate to 45 percent.
* A limit on the deductions that high-income filers can claim.

The permanent extension of the tax cuts (and the other provisions in the first bullet) represents the largest contributor to future deficits in the President’s budget. By the CBO’s estimates, it accounts for more than 75 percent of the total change in projected revenues over the next 10 years.

md

March 30th, 2011
3:18 pm

“THAT is considered testimony. It is made and/or affirmed in a legal context; as this case is legal in its bearing, just by saying something is “truth therefore testimony” is absurd.”

Boy are you rigid…………even folks in church provide their “testimony”…………..

Testimony basically means giving ones side of the story as truth…….it doesn’t have to be in a legal setting.

Anywho……what I provided was actual testimony….under oath…….now refute it if you choose.

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:19 pm

SELECTED SPENDING POLICIES IN THE PRESIDENT’S BUDGET

The President’s budget reduces programmatic spending by a modest amount over the next 10 years, but also reallocates funding among various programs. Some programs receive more funding compared to current law; other programs receive less. Over the next 10 years, the most significant changes are a:

* Freeze in Medicare’s payment rates for physicians .
* Extension/expansion of certain refundable tax credits .
* Increase in transportation funding.
* Reduction in funding for activities related to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq .
* A five-year freeze in non-security discretionary spending.

Although annual funding for non-defense spending (known as non-defense discretionary spending) would fall by a cumulative total of about $600 billion over 10 years, most of the decline ($504 billion) would stem from a reclassification of some transportation spending from discretionary spending to mandatory spending.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
3:19 pm

md:It is obvious that one of them is not……to add in another variable, I have read several articles that state intimidation is not a short term issue…….especially for those that live in the area………

Ok I don’t get you. Granny pulled up the very testimony from the link that you referenced and now you’re stating that its questionable. md – you are……..unique.

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:19 pm

understatement-

The CBO report confirms that we need to go beyond the policies outlined in the President’s budget in order to address our longer- term debt and deficits. The CBO projects that under the President’s policies, by 2021federal debt will climb to almost 90 percent of GDP. Without a change to current policies, debt is expected to grow even further.

The leading edge of the baby-boom generation turns 65 this year. Over the next decade and beyond, spending pressures on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid will begin to mount, yet revenues will not keep pace. Failing to address the gap between spending and revenues could do great harm to our families, our businesses, and our economy in the years ahead.

Although any action on the budget must recognize the fragility of the current state of the economy, policymakers could significantly improve the outlook for the budget and economy by creating a credible plan to reduce the deficit gradually over time as the economy recovers.

George W

March 30th, 2011
3:21 pm

OK GUYS….TOTALLY OFF TOPIC….BUT THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE FUNNIEST VIDEOS I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f61_1301503389

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:21 pm

If the health care cost control measures contained in the Affordable Care Act are not sustainable in the long run, by 2034, debt held by the public will exceed 200 percent of GDP and interest payments to service the public debt will reach 9 percent of GDP.

md

March 30th, 2011
3:22 pm

“Granny posted it for me. Seems like you were talking out the side of your neck about “Mr. Hill being intimidated” or the other pollers being intimidated. Hmmmm did you even READ your own link? Or just figured, (and rightly so), we’d see that it was 201 pages and would just say “forget that!!”? Good thing for Granny huh?”

Granny didn’t “prove” anything………just presented more evidence………

Now we have contradicting evidence and contradictions made by one side that presented evidence….

You make the call……..as you will anyway.

The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..

March 30th, 2011
3:23 pm

So I wonder if the “cutting in line” stuff affected the poll? :cool:

Obama Cuts in Line and Gets an iPad 2…

OBAMA POLL HITS NEW LOW…

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:23 pm

Oh goody. By 2040, all we will be able to afford to pay are the interest expense and social security.

No government, no health care, no roads. Lights out.

md

March 30th, 2011
3:24 pm

“Ok I don’t get you. Granny pulled up the very testimony from the link that you referenced and now you’re stating that its questionable. md – you are……..unique.”

That link….all 201 pages….presented evidence from more than one witness…….and granny’s evidence came from another source…….slow down and read it or risk looking silly.

Yippee

March 30th, 2011
3:24 pm

Politcal party affiliation has nothing to do with it Mr. Bookman or anyone else writing here. All one need do is watch the video of the actual event to clearly understand the behavior was wrong and clearly designed to intimidate. We have lost our way when we are afraid to be honest with ourselves for fear of being labeled this or that. Mr. Bookman chose to focus on this stroy to drive this blog. Perhaps contract negotiations are at hand. In any event Mr.Bookman, you have lost all integrity in my eyes, not that my opinion or I matter to you. Enough said on this race baiting attempt. Pitiful.

George W

March 30th, 2011
3:24 pm

OMG>>>>>you guys have got to watch that video…..I am crying!!!

The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..

March 30th, 2011
3:25 pm

md
March 30th, 2011
3:24 pm

“risk looking silly”?

I think for her it’s given.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:25 pm

“AmVet

March 30th, 2011
3:15 pm

Uh….

“At least unlike Lynn Westmoreland, he didn’t call the Obamas uppity.

No, but Bill Clinton said the Obama’s would be bringing him coffee.

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
3:26 pm

One more b4 I go…..

But only fools would not notice two black guys standing outside a polling place wearing black panther attire and carrying batons in their hands.

What exactly is “Black Panther attire”? Is it like cowboy attire or marching band attire? Oh and BTW only one had a baton. And, in the eyes of black people, the one with a baton was either an undercover cop or in a marching band or something…….

getalife

March 30th, 2011
3:27 pm

Call Orkin.

This place is infested with con trolls.

They are the creatures in their commercials.

Del

March 30th, 2011
3:27 pm

As Obama continues to display his incompetence, Jay continues to divert attention by putting up topics of little importance.

hahaha!!!

March 30th, 2011
3:27 pm

Thats how you know when the kooks know they are wrong. “But Bush did it too!!!!” Gay, the more intelligent of us are well aware Bush wasnt a Conservative, only on national defense. If the Neo-Comms had anyone with a functioning brain they should put a statue up of the man.

The Bush administration was packed up and ready to go when this racist, pro-murdering ape decided to intimidate voters. As well you know, Gay

Dave R.

March 30th, 2011
3:28 pm

“What exactly is “Black Panther attire”?”

I think it includes lots of black with shiny metal accessories.

But I could be wrong . . . :)

DebbieDoRight

March 30th, 2011
3:28 pm

That link….all 201 pages….presented evidence from more than one witness…….and granny’s evidence came from another source…….slow down and read it or risk looking silly.

You’re the one who cited Mr. Hill’s testimony!! Good grief man!! Don’t you remember what you’ve typed from one minute to the next?

Oh and BTW Go granny! Go Granny!! Go! Go!!!

Ken Starrs in "The Lady in Blue" from FOXy Films

March 30th, 2011
3:28 pm

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:33 pm

ug

The GAO’s simulations can also be used to gauge the magnitude of changes necessary to stabilize the debt. Under the more optimistic projections of the Extended Baseline scenario, in order to hold the public debt at its current level of 62 percent of total economic output through the end of the GAO’s projection period, taxes would immediately and permanently have to increase by almost 15 percent, spending would have to be slashed
permanently by 13 percent, or some combination of the two. Under the Alternative scenario, to stabilize the debt, taxes would need to increase by almost 54 percent, all non-interest spending would have to be decreased by 35 percent, or some combination of the two.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:34 pm

“And, in the eyes of black people, the one with a baton was either an undercover cop or in a marching band or something…….”

They weren’t there to intimidtate BLACK voters, Debbie.

Do try to keep up…………………….

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:35 pm

my 3:33 – the alternative “growth” scenario is the real likely one, and those tax increases and spending cuts are never going to happen.

Which means: reset button. Put yo $ elsewhere and emigrate asap.

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
3:35 pm

Speaking of trolls, has getalife posted anything of intellectual value on this topic? If so, I guess I overlooked it…

WOW

March 30th, 2011
3:35 pm

“Regarding farmboys and speaking of fellow Jayhawks”

To be a Jayhawk one would have to have had to attend the U of Kansas. Quit lying, Vet.

hahaha!!!

March 30th, 2011
3:37 pm

@ Del,

Isn’t it hilarious? Same with CT’s looney blog. Nothing but social issues that have been defeated 25 times over.

The world is literally bracing itself for a global war thanks to the US having a spineless, incompetent, gutless Muslim Kenyan for a leader and this is all they want to talk about?

LOL!!!!

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:38 pm

The spending going on in DC is mind boggling. You’d think the boom never stopped. And for them, it didn’t. Dozens and dozens of buildings under construction. Employment growth out the wazoo (contractors and gov’t).

Our country has lost its sense of balance.

Dave R.

March 30th, 2011
3:39 pm

“Speaking of trolls, has getalife posted anything of intellectual value on this topic? If so, I guess I overlooked it…”

Harry, getalife is one of the drive bys on this blog. Never posts anything of intellectual value.

Deep Throat

March 30th, 2011
3:39 pm

Yippee, you’re so right on target, one does not need someone else to tell them what is intimidation. The sad thing is not one Lib. will speak out against the Black Panthers, altho none will come right out and say it they give them legitimacy. Myself, I have along with other Conservatives denounce not only the Black Panthers, but, also the KKK, or any group whose agenda promotes their race or ethnicities above others.

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
3:40 pm

…and this is all they want to talk about?

Blogspot is ready when you are.

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:40 pm

24 hours in jail seems about right for these jokers.

jewcowboy

March 30th, 2011
3:41 pm

ty webb,

“who new berets were so fashionable?”

I’ve actually seen 2 different guys in my office tower in Buckhead wearing berets today…with business suits.

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:43 pm

America’s problems.

1. Only the Fed is buying our debt right now. Self dealing is usually not a sign of prosperity.
2. More than 1/2 our oil is imported.
3. Our health care costs are through the roof making our labor uncompetitive.
4. And our tax rates are high…. (relative to the world)

Last one to leave, turn the lights out.

md

March 30th, 2011
3:43 pm

“You’re the one who cited Mr. Hill’s testimony!! Good grief man!! Don’t you remember what you’ve typed from one minute to the next?”

Yes…..Mr Hill’s testimony………and granny cited Mr Counts testimony……..and I cited the contradictions to Mr Counts statements……….

Shall I continue, or can you take it from here?

ty webb

March 30th, 2011
3:51 pm

“I’ve actually seen 2 different guys in my office tower in Buckhead wearing berets today…with business suits.”

Jewcowboy,
hmmm…white collar mimes?

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:52 pm

In energy speech, Obama exchanges the ambitious for the politically possible

President Obama called Wednesday for a one-third cut in oil imports, to be achieved by increased domestic production, alternative energies, and higher fuel efficiency.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0330/In-energy-speech-Obama-exchanges-the-ambitious-for-the-politically-possible

Now we’re talking. Forced out of lala land by the Republicans, Obama starts thinking realistically…

jm

March 30th, 2011
3:55 pm

I think Obama unofficially kicked off his re-election campaign today.

Unfortunately for him, he now has a record, not just rhetoric.

hahaha!!!

March 30th, 2011
3:57 pm

@ kamchak,

Quadrupling our debt, starting a war while being on vacation #48, going to war without Congress’ approval, supporting Communist nations desires to drill while banning ours, being a Kenyan, being a muslim, hating America….do you want to pick?

Joe Cool

March 30th, 2011
3:58 pm

“So you wouldn’t notice two black guys wearing black outfits with black panther patches and head gear with batons in their hands at a polling place? Are you blind?”

Nope! I guess that would be like me readily identifying MinuteMen in “their” attire. I wouldnt know what they look like, but i’d know what a couple of sheet wearing, holes in their mommas pillow case wearing fools look like.

Its 2011, I see all kinda mess worn by all groups of people that wouldnt make me identify them as This and That.

Tundra Dude

March 30th, 2011
3:59 pm

Harry Callahan@3:06 wrote;

Obama doesn’t know his religion, why should anyone else?

Sure he does.

“You’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith,”
Obama to interviewer George Stephanopoulos (2008)

md

March 30th, 2011
3:59 pm

“I think Obama unofficially kicked off his re-election campaign today.”

Personally, I don’t think he ever left the stump………….

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
4:02 pm

….do you want to pick?

The point of starting your own blog is that you get to choose the topic.

Then you have to deal with crybabies.

Midori

March 30th, 2011
4:03 pm

When you do that, that what shows your true colors and your obsession.
Please do tell where this obsession comes from.

Joe — two words: erectile dysfunction

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
4:04 pm

So now…which religions are not allowed to be President? And do please cite a constitutional provision to support.

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
4:05 pm

Unemployment thread upstairs.

jm

March 30th, 2011
4:06 pm

A GEORGIAN IN DC. Love me some Chuck Leavell.

“Leavell: Terribly frustrated! I don’t think you talk to anyone on the street who doesn’t say, “Why can’t we get things done?” It wasn’t all that long ago that you had people from each party that would lock

themselves in a room. I’ll equate it this way: If you read Keith Richards’s autobiography, you come across a time when manager Andrew Oldham locked Keith and Mick Jagger in a room and said, “Don’t come out until you write a song!” And they did. I equate that to what we should do here. Lock these lawmakers in a room and don’t let them out until they do something. ”

http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1103/chuck_leavells_washington_gig_.html

Dusty

March 30th, 2011
4:12 pm

Well, congrats, Bookman! You have posted another subject which you knew would engender racial bigotry.

Anything to keep the blog numbers rising. Anything! Don’t call it journalism. Call it the great weakness to incite the public to degrade themselves for no purpose whatsoever. Quite an achievement, Bookman.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
4:13 pm

Think of the new Mercedes that those checks buy. Why no wonder I heard yesterday that the Mercedes dealership laidoff a number of people.

Time to sell Whole Foods. [snark]

Harry Callahan

March 30th, 2011
4:18 pm

“Harry, getalife is one of the drive bys on this blog. Never posts anything of intellectual value.”

Oh…so he’s pretty much like Kamchak, in other words…

Dave R.

March 30th, 2011
4:25 pm

Yeah, Harry, they’re the drive by twins. Add in TaxPayer and you’ve got a set of triplets!

hahaha!!!

March 30th, 2011
4:33 pm

So basically you just dont want to talk about anything serious or relative? Only played out, tired, tried and weighed social issues? Didnt think so.

Thanks for playing! Next!

The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..

March 30th, 2011
4:46 pm

DebbieDoRight
March 30th, 2011
3:26 pm

On planet “doright” ignorance is bliss. You said “What exactly is “Black Panther attire”? Is it like cowboy attire or marching band attire? Oh and BTW only one had a baton.”

Um, let’s see. How about the black panther patches and head wear? And if only one guy with a baton is okay, I guess if one of those guys was brandishing a gun you’d be okay with that too.

The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..

March 30th, 2011
4:49 pm

Joe Cool
March 30th, 2011
3:58 pm

So I guess at the polling place where you vote there a guys hanging outside with black panther patches on their clothes and carrying batons? And you wouldn’t notice them? Needless to say you’ll never be called on the witness stand as an eye witness for anything.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
7:06 pm

SoCo 1:18 – it’s illegal to publicly advocate for a candidate or position within a certain distance of every polling place. they were clearly in violation of this.

I have not seen any information that stated the NBPP guys were explicitly campaigning for a particular candidate. I don’t see the clear violation if there is no proof.

The question is whether only minorities should have their rights protected, or everyone. Holder and his Justice Department seem to feel only minorities’ rights get protected, the rest of us just have to deal.

Jimmy

It was Bush’s Justice Dept that made the decision to drop the charges. I don’t see how or why Holder should take the rap for that. All persons should have their rights protected, but it’s obvious that minorities need additional help as they don’t have majority control to legislate their own protection.

different rules

March 31st, 2011
8:59 am

if they had been “white panthers” instead, the ruling would have totally different, due to pressure from the media, sharpton/jackson and the “panthers” would be in prison.

buck@gon

April 2nd, 2011
2:27 pm

“We live in a world in which too many people have too much invested in feeling themselves the downtrodden victim of the black man to let this foolishness die.”

So Pennsylvania voters scared away by shouting, club-wielding men who happen to be black, and who happen to be shouting “cracker” and “you are going to be ‘ruled’ by a black man!” ought not invest in those on-the-spot feelings of being downtrodden.

What if I stand with a club in front of you, Jay Bookman and effectively threaten you from the moment you leave your car, until the moment you enter your office? Would calling the cops be foolishness? Would their prosecution of me be justified?

Would it be acceptable for a white governor to pardon me because I am one of “his” people?

You’ll pardon the expression, but I hope Eric Holder “hangs” in disgrace before or after the next election when it becomes more widely known what he has done and what he is continuing to do. With him, it is a Martin Luther King Jr. feared, that justice DOES depend upon the color of ones skin.

And I’ll hope that you’ll keep the unjustifiable nonsense out of your columns in the future.