Watchdog says Black Panther case handled correctly
The Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) has concluded an investigation finding that politics played no role in the handling of the New Black Panther Party case, which sparked a racially charged political fight.
After reviewing thousands of pages of internal e-mails and notes and conducting 44 interviews with department staff members, the OPR reported that “department attorneys did not commit professional misconduct or exercise poor judgment” and that the voter-intimidation case against the Panthers was dismissed on “a good faith assessment of the law” and “not influenced by the race of the defendants.”
The OPR investigation was launched at the request of U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith, Republican of Texas and chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. Here’s the guts of its findings, as related in a letter to Smith from OPR Counsel Robin Ashton:
In a sane world, that would be that. Unfortunately, we do not live in a sane world. We live in a world in which too many people have too much invested in feeling themselves the downtrodden victim of the black man to let this foolishness die.
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jm
March 30th, 2011
1:46 pm
DDR “Not one voter complained NOR, when questioned, claimed that they felt intimidated. ”
That’s such a bogus metric. I got violently ill after swimming in my gym pool a month ago. Didn’t complain.
Low and behold, found out this week they had a bunch of rehab people with contusions, and wearing diapers, that didn’t shower before using the pool and they’ve now posted warnings (that people will continue to ignore I’m sure). So I’ve stopped swimming in the pool.
Want people to just stop voting? Ridiculous argument you have there.
jewcowboy
March 30th, 2011
1:47 pm
mm,
“The wingnuts have really overreached this time thinking they had some kind of mandate.”
They did…to create jobs. Seems they’ve kinda forgot about that, huh?
DebbieDoRight
March 30th, 2011
1:47 pm
Jimmy62: The question is whether only minorities should have their rights protected, or everyone. Holder and his Justice Department seem to feel only minorities’ rights get protected
Dude, do you even KNOW what you’re talking about, what this story is referencing or what day it is? The polling station was in a BLACK COMMUNITY. How is Holder (who wasn’t even AG when this happened by the way), NOT protecting everyone’s (whites included) rights?
George W
March 30th, 2011
1:47 pm
AmVet……no black govenors…..sounds like you should take to the streets and teach your youth that politics is a better career choice than prision…..you like over 10% of the black population has chosen to do! keep up the good work.
jt
March 30th, 2011
1:48 pm
In other words, the overwhelming majority of black voters don’t make the decision on their own to support Democrats, they are somehow “laid claim” to by the Democrats? It has very little to do with the people themselves?
How does that work exactly?
Over 80% of employed blacks work for government as per government.
The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, for example, has employed 614% more blacks than their proportion in the civilian workforce, and the U.S. Department of Education employed 473% more blacks.
The protected minority groups include blacks, Hispanics, Asians/Pacific Islanders, Native Americans, and women. The OPM Report for 2003 shows that, of the new federal jobs created, only 22.9% were filled by white males and other “non-minorities.” Tim Fay comments, “It wasn’t a very good year for white guys to apply for a federal job.”
They vote FOR their job.
AmVet
March 30th, 2011
1:48 pm
What group of people are arguably the richest, per capita, in this country? Jews.
What party do Jews vote for overwhelmingly? Democrats.
Bigots tend to see everything in terms of color though…
WOW
March 30th, 2011
1:48 pm
AmVet, explain this one, bigot.
Meet the Ex-KKK Grand Dragon Running for Mayor in Fla.
Former Klansman Seeks Political Office in Florida…as a Democrat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2695091/posts
George W
March 30th, 2011
1:48 pm
AmVet…..wow you are stretching now….haha
Kamchak
March 30th, 2011
1:50 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
jewcowboy
March 30th, 2011
1:50 pm
George W,
“If attempting to enforce immigration laws is p*ssing….then fine……keep paying for our southern neighbors that are taking your jobs!!! ”
If the GOP keeps acting the way it does towards Hispanics, they might just find themselves a distant memory: http://tinyurl.com/5we3cwq
md
March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm
“That’s just the thing, no voters were intimidated. Not one voter complained NOR, when questioned, claimed that they felt intimidated. ”
Everything I read says otherwise………….plenty of testimony from poll watchers, and witnesses that state voters turned around and left vs entering the building through the commotion………….
Just because nobody went on record does not necessarily equate to your conclusion.
Granny Godzilla
March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm
George W
March 30th, 2011
1:46 pm
Granny……haha right…….
glad to see you agree
Deep Throat
March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm
DebbieDo DT: I DO NOT support the KKK and what they are about and I DO NOT support the Black Panthers and what they are about.
Neither do a lot of people. And……..?
You support them by protecting them, if you do not support them, denounce them.
I double dog dare you.
Jay
March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm
jt, do you have a source for those numbers?
George W
March 30th, 2011
1:52 pm
Jew……hahaha keep wishing man….The Dems are doing a great job of bending over for them. I mean since when have you ever heard of a president suing a state because they are enforcing federal law…….
Jay
March 30th, 2011
1:52 pm
Don’t push your luck, George.
WOW
March 30th, 2011
1:52 pm
“Bigots tend to see everything in terms of color though…”
What was that you called white people, Vet? You are a living breathing contradiction.
“AmVet…..wow you are stretching now….haha”
Vet’s not all there in the head, George.
“The polling station was in a BLACK COMMUNITY.”
So what why were they there holding billy clubs? Also, if you think that’s ok then I guess you’re fine with the KKK standing in front of white community polling stations.
George W
March 30th, 2011
1:53 pm
Jay…….really???? I thought this was an adult blog. Freedom of speech ever hear of it?
md
March 30th, 2011
1:53 pm
“She and Rubio are going to have to wrestle over it.”
Rubio recently made it clear he has no intention of doing anything but playing senator for now…….
He needs more experience………..
Granny Godzilla
March 30th, 2011
1:54 pm
md
March 30th, 2011
1:51 pm
“That’s just the thing, no voters were intimidated. Not one voter complained NOR, when questioned, claimed that they felt intimidated. ”
Everything I read says otherwise………….plenty of testimony from poll watchers, and witnesses that state voters turned around and left vs entering the building through the commotion………….
Just because nobody went on record does not necessarily equate to your conclusion.
plenty of testimony? nobody on record? excuse me, but how can there be testimony recorded if nobody went on the record
Please tell us what it is you read and where and perhaps we can help you understand it.
Joe Cool
March 30th, 2011
1:54 pm
“I wonder how the left would feel if it was the KKK in front of a voting center.”
They’d Get Their Azz Headed To Them.
AmVet
March 30th, 2011
1:55 pm
I just keep putting up facts to bolster my claim that the GOP is pretty much a whites only party, and all you boys do is keep on driving right around them.
And the funniest part?
Your future.
(But don’t look there!)
The demographics in this nation are moving WAY against you.
You boys better quit blogging and get REAL busy procreating.
HA!
And the crowd goes crazy…
jm
March 30th, 2011
1:56 pm
jewcowboy / mick – 1:34 keep sticking your heads in the sands. hide the facts.
mm
March 30th, 2011
1:56 pm
“If attempting to enforce immigration laws is p*ssing….then fine……keep paying for our southern neighbors that are taking your jobs!!! hahahah”
Last time I looked, not all Latinos are here illegaly. And if it were not for business hiring the illegals for cheap labor, they wouldn’t be here. So the very businesses you wingnuts defend on a daily basis are the cause of all the illegals in this country.
WOW,
Keep it classy. You prove my point.
Deep Throat
March 30th, 2011
1:56 pm
Jay why should jt have to vet his source the Obama admin don’t.
George W
March 30th, 2011
1:56 pm
AmVet……keep posting about your fantasy dreams……
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 30th, 2011
1:57 pm
GeorgeW….now you do realize that, being the constitutional scholar all Republicans must be beause they get trained by Bachmann now, that the 1st Amendment only says that the government shall not interfere with your right of speech…Jay is not the government and this blog is not government owned. If Jay bans you, its because you failed to abide by the terms of use or frankly, he is just not that into you….but that is the right of the AJC.
Ya might want to go read that constitution again and this time think about it.
George W
March 30th, 2011
1:57 pm
mm…..who said we are against legal immigration?
jewcowboy
March 30th, 2011
1:57 pm
George W,
“hahaha keep wishing man”
It is not a wish…it is the reality of the moment. If the GOP continues using illegal immigration as a wedge issue, they will keep pushing the largest growing demographic into the open arms of the Democrat’s. The GOP ignores this at its own peril.
George W
March 30th, 2011
1:58 pm
Keep…..please post the “terms of use” for this blog…….
md
March 30th, 2011
1:58 pm
” HILL: [Shabazz] immediately started with ‘What are you doing here, Cracker?’ And he and Mr. Jackson attempted to close ranks. I went straight between them through the door to find our poll watcher, who was inside the building at the time…he was pretty shaken up…he was visibly upset.
QUESTION: What did he tell you?
HILL: He was called a race traitor for being a poll watcher, credentialed poll watcher for the Republican Party as a black man, and that he was threatened if he stepped outside of the building, there would be hell to pay.”
Looks like intimidation to me……………….what would some of you call it??
jm
March 30th, 2011
1:59 pm
The Democrats are ignoring the Tea Party at their peril.
DebbieDoRight
March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm
Because race baiting bigots like Jesse and Al have had the bully pulpit for years telling black people who to vote for.
I am so glad you found that out!! Thank you for knowing the truth (and telling it to me). If not for your very real truth telling, I’d continue to be bullied for years and years by Jesse and Al. Thanks for that!! Now I can finally vote for who I want to vote for — a Republican (who calls me lazy, a welfare breeder, who discredits my value and input and who says I am a victim of the Dems). Thanks again!
George W
March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm
AmVet…
Only 45% of Black men graduate from high school in the United States.
• Just 22 % of Black males who began at a four-year college graduated within six years.
• 69% of Black children in America cannot read at grade level in the 4th grade, compared with 29%
among White children.
• 7% of Black 8th-graders perform math at grade level.
• 32% of all suspended students are Black. Black students (mostly Black males) are twice as likely
as Whites to be suspended or expelled.
• 67% of Black children are born out of wedlock.
Yep keep up the good work…..not my words just simple facts.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm
George are you really so ignorant that you cannot scroll to the bottom of the page and click on Visitor Agreement…… how do you manage to get out of bed without help in the morning?
Kamchak
March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm
Yellow card.
AmVet
March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm
But in an effort to be fair and balanced, I must admit that the GOP has a MUCH better record when it comes to black mayors.
Four.
Doesn’t even really seem possible, does it?
jewcowboy
March 30th, 2011
2:00 pm
jm,
“jewcowboy / mick – 1:34″
Sorry…what did I say at 1.34?
Tommy Maddox
March 30th, 2011
2:01 pm
So the Justice Department investigated the Justice Department and came to the conclusion that the Justice Department did nothing improper. Go figure.
ty webb
March 30th, 2011
2:01 pm
Jay, despite no prosecution of the matter. I would like to know what you think about the actual incident at the polling place? Thanks.
jewcowboy
March 30th, 2011
2:01 pm
jm,
“The Democrats are ignoring the Tea Party at their peril.”
The Orange Pekoe Brigade ignores independents and moderates at their peril.
ty webb
March 30th, 2011
2:02 pm
sorry meant “any” not “no”.
Scooter (The Original)
March 30th, 2011
2:02 pm
Great! So it’s OK to stand outside polling places and intimidate voters of other races. Is Jay really trying to sell that argument… NO?
jewcowboy
March 30th, 2011
2:02 pm
George W.
“please post the “terms of use” for this blog…….”
How about just being civil…would that work?
ODDOWL
March 30th, 2011
2:02 pm
If the extreme right wing, Herr Paul Von Broun type, Tea Party Republicans are frighten by those scary New Black Panther Party members intimidating Republicans at a Democrat polling station. I have even more depressing news for them. ACORN is back and they’re more powerful than ever because they’ve gone international and now have global financial support. Wooooooo Scary !!! The ACORN and Black Panther get out the vote operations are in full effect. Democrats victories in 2012 will be historic.
George W
March 30th, 2011
2:03 pm
AmVet….and it keeps going….
In 2001, the chances of going to prison were highest among Black males (32.2%) and Hispanic
males (17.2%) and lowest among White males (5.9%).
• Blacks account for only 12% of the U.S. population, but 44 % of all prisoners in the United States
are Black.
• Blacks, who comprise only 12% of the population and account for about 13% of drug users,
constitute 35% of all arrests for drug possession, 55% of all convictions on those charges, and
74% of all those sentenced to prison for possession.
• In at least fifteen states, Black men were sent to prison on drug charges at rates ranging from
twenty to fifty-seven times those of White men.
• In 1986, before mandatory minimums for crack offenses became effective, the average federal
drug offense sentence for Blacks was 11% higher than for Whites. Four years later following the
implementation of harsher drug sentencing laws, the average federal drug offense sentence was
49% higher for Blacks.
• 1,172 Black children and teenagers in the United States died from gunfire in 2003.
• A young Black male in America is more likely to die from gunfire than was any soldier in Vietnam.
• The Justice Department estimates that one out of every 21 Black men can expect to be
murdered, a death rate double that of U. S. soldiers in World War II.
• 1.46 million Black men out of a total voting population of 10.4 million have lost their right to vote
due to felony convictions.
Not my words just facts……
jm
March 30th, 2011
2:03 pm
jewcowboy 2:00 pm typo, should’ve been 1:43.
Granny Godzilla
March 30th, 2011
2:04 pm
md
Looks like intimidation to me……………….what would some of you call it??
using someone elses content without permission – ain’t there a name for that? </strong
jt
March 30th, 2011
2:06 pm
Jay- from the Fed——————-
Now comes an astonishing report from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management: “Annual Report to Congress, Federal Equal Opportunity Recruitment Program, Fiscal Year 2000,” released in April 2002.
Deep Throat
March 30th, 2011
2:07 pm
Amvet what about Supreme Justices, you got the number nominated by a GOP president ? Or what about the number of black Justices nominated by GOP presidents , that the Left attacked and tried to block their appointment.
Get a life clown.
Paul
March 30th, 2011
2:07 pm
Hey jewcowboy –
Welcome back!
You picked a heckuva thread to return to, though -
godless heathen
March 30th, 2011
2:07 pm
The NBP Party will be glad to hear that they can post armed reps outside the polling places for subsequent elections.
Jay
March 30th, 2011
2:08 pm
Ty, I think the behavior was despicable and foolish, but that authorities from the local policeman who told the guy with the nightstick to move along to the Bush officials who declined to waste government resources on a criminal prosecution to the Obama folks who got a restraining order against Mr. Nightstick handled it appropriately.
It is much ado about nothing.
WOW
March 30th, 2011
2:09 pm
“I must admit that the GOP has a MUCH better record when it comes to black mayors.”
The Democrats sure do have a great track record of black mayors who’ve gone to prison.
“a Republican (who calls me lazy, a welfare breeder, who discredits my value and input and who says I am a victim of the Dems). ”
What’s a welfare breeder?
“I just keep putting up facts to bolster my claim that the GOP is pretty much a whites only party, and all you boys do is keep on driving right around them.”
How many soldiers did you desert in Vietnam?
George W
March 30th, 2011
2:09 pm
Jay…..if it is much ado about nothing….why did you post a blog about it?
Chief
March 30th, 2011
2:10 pm
George W – is there a point to your posts? On the surface you appear to simply be an angry white supremacist. Grow up.
jewcowboy
March 30th, 2011
2:10 pm
jm,
“2:00 pm typo, should’ve been 1:43.”
Ahh…that makes much more sense. I was wondering if I said something the blog ate
I have to call bs on your statement. NO democrat would say they would vote for the nut case Bachmann or Palin…I know many Republicans who say they wouldn’t vote for them. That is not to say there are Democrats that would vote for a Republican…just not those Republicans.
ty webb
March 30th, 2011
2:10 pm
Jay,
me too. thanks.
ragnar danneskjold
March 30th, 2011
2:11 pm
Tom Sowell sees hope for the African-American community in the new Census data:
“The latest published data from the 2010 census show how people are moving from place to place within the United States. In general, people are voting with their feet against places where the liberal, welfare-state policies favored by the intelligentsia are most deeply entrenched.
…
“The movement of the black population– especially educated young blacks– is the most striking of all.
“In the past, the massive movements of millions of blacks out of the South in the early 20th century was one of the epic migrations of a people– comparable in size with the millions of the Irish who fled the famine in Ireland in the 1840s or the millions of Jews who fled persecution in Eastern Europe in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
“In more recent decades, blacks have been moving back to the South, however. While the overall black population of the northeastern and midwestern states has not declined in the past ten years, except in Michigan and Illinois, the net increase of the black population nationwide has increasingly been in the South. About half of the national growth of the black population took place in the South in the 1970s, two-thirds in the 1990s and three-quarters in the past 10 years.
“While the mass migrations of blacks out of the South in the early 20th century was to places where there were already established black communities, such as New York, Chicago and Philadelphia, much of the current movement of blacks is away from existing concentrations of black populations.
“Blacks are moving to suburbs, and even to cities like Minneapolis. Overall, the racial residential segregation patterns are declining in the great majority of the largest major metropolitan areas.
“Among blacks who moved, the proportions who were in their prime — from 20 to 40 years of age– were greater than in the black population at large, and college degrees were more common among them than in the black population at large. In short, with blacks, as with other racial or ethnic groups, those with better prospects are leaving the states that are repelling their most productive citizens in general with liberal policies.”
Great insight.
George W
March 30th, 2011
2:11 pm
Chief….nope read the previous posts from AmVet….just responding that is all…
How does posting FACTS make me a white supremacist…..What makes you think I am white?
md
March 30th, 2011
2:11 pm
“plenty of testimony? nobody on record? excuse me, but how can there be testimony recorded if nobody went on the record”
Never mentioned official testimony…………..
Check the definition of testimony………maybe we can help you understand it ………
George W
March 30th, 2011
2:12 pm
Ragnar….that article talks about blacks as if they are cattle……
jm
March 30th, 2011
2:12 pm
Jay. Ask yourself, if it was a bunch of KKK members (or some such group) outside a polling place, would you JUST think: “the behavior was despicable and foolish”?
Or would you think it was something more than just despicable and foolish? What do you think the ADL would say if it were Nazis?
Remember, understanding racism from a different position involves standing in someone else’s shoes.
Paul
March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm
George W
Not speaking for Jay, but it hightlights, 155 posts later, in spite of a professional investigation conducted by Justice’s Office of Professional Responsibility, that there are a significant number of people who can’t bring themselves to say “Well, that settles that.”
Remember the 20 percent rule? “Twenty percent of people will believe anything.”
Although sometimes it’s 25 percent. Some poll results been posted here – that occasionally rises to 50 percent.
jm
March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm
jewcowboy 2:10 – Probably not. But I was saying he would vote R, EXCEPTING Palin, Bachmann, etc.
DebbieDoRight
March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm
DT: You support them by protecting them, if you do not support them, denounce them. I double dog dare you.
Please explain to me, HOW I protect them? This should be good.
Jm; That’s such a bogus metric. I got violently ill after swimming in my gym pool a month ago. Didn’t complain.
It’s like that old adage, if you don’t vote you don’t count. It can be used here as well, if you don’t complain then you are not affected, unhappy, or otherwise hurt by a decision or action.
Jm: Want people to just stop voting? Ridiculous argument you have there
Huh?
Jt: Over 80% of employed blacks work for government as per government.
The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, for example, has employed 614% more blacks than their proportion in the civilian workforce, and the U.S. Department of Education employed 473% more blacks
Jeesh you can’t win with you guys. If you don’t work, you’re lazy and a leech, if you DO work, it’s wrong because you work for the government.
Md: Everything I read says otherwise………….plenty of testimony from poll watchers, and witnesses that state voters turned around and left vs entering the building through the commotion………….
Just because nobody went on record does not necessarily equate to your conclusion.
See answer to jt above.
Wow: So what why were they there holding billy clubs? Also, if you think that’s ok then I guess you’re fine with the KKK standing in front of white community polling stations
If no one feels intimidated, if they aren’t making threatening motions, then they are within their rights to be there. That’s why we’re AMERICANS; because we believe in the concept of certain inalienable rights.
AmVet
March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm
Granny, jcb, et al,
A huge percentage of the time, I just ignore the posters here who I don’t value.
It infuriates them.
Because?
It is a one way street.
And as we all know, this story always concludes with the same ending – they either move on and sooner or later, come back as someone “new”, or they get banned.
Either way, the band plays on…
People movin’ out
People movin’ in
Why, because of the color of their skin
Run, run, run, but you sho’ can’t hide
An eye for an eye
A tooth for a tooth
Vote for me, and I’ll set you free
Rap on brother, rap on
Well, the only person talkin’
‘Bout love thy brother is the preacher
And it seems,
Nobody is interested in learnin’
But the teacher
Segregation, determination, demonstration,
Integration, aggravation,
Humiliation, obligation to our nation
Ball of Confusion
That’s what the world is today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miZWYmxr8XE
carlosgvv
March 30th, 2011
2:13 pm
Since the early 1960’s, politicans have been falling all over themselves to see who can give blacks the most civil rights. None of them have ever bothered to say anything to blacks about CIVIL RESPONSIBILITIES. The results of this are there for all to see. Until blacks realize that civil rights and responsibilities go hand in hand, they will continue to lead the way in being at the top in crime and the bottom in education and income.
ragnar danneskjold
March 30th, 2011
2:14 pm
Walter E Williams has grave problems with the policies flowing from the Department of Justice:
“The U.S. Department of Justice, led by Attorney General Eric Holder, rejected the results of Dayton’s Civil Service examination because not enough blacks passed. The DOJ has ordered the city to lower the passing score. The lowered passing grade requires candidates to answer 50 of 86 (58 percent) questions correctly on the first part and 64 of 102 (63 percent) of questions on the second. The DOJ-approved scoring policy requires potential police officers to earn the equivalent of an “F” on the first part and a “D” on the second. Based on the DOJ-imposed passing scores, a total of 748 people, 258 more than before, were reported passing the exam. Unreported was just how many of the 258 are black.
“Keith Lander, chairman of the Dayton chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and Dayton NAACP president Derrick Foward condemned the DOJ actions.
“Mr. Lander said, “Lowering the test score is insulting to black people,” adding, “The DOJ is creating the perception that black people are dumb by lowering the score. It’s not accomplishing anything.”
“Mr. Foward agreed and said, “The NAACP does not support individuals failing a test and then having the opportunity to be gainfully employed,” adding, “If you lower the score for any group of people, you’re not getting the best qualified people for the job.”
“I am pleased by the positions taken by Messrs. Lander and Foward. It is truly insulting to suggest that black people cannot meet the same standards as white people and somehow justice requires lower standards. Black performance on Dayton’s Civil Service exam is really a message about fraudulent high school diplomas that many black students receive…”
Libertarian
March 30th, 2011
2:14 pm
Can one liberal on the blog please just admit that what the NBPPs did was wrong?
And my two cents re: racial tensions…we do have a lot of racial tensions and problems still…especially in Atlanta. And the AJC is fanning the flames of racial tension on a daily basis.
Joe Cool
March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm
“George W – is there a point to your posts? On the surface you appear to simply be an angry white supremacist. Grow up.”
Cheif, Lil Georgie hs an obsession when it comes to anything dealing with “blacks”. The thread was right up his alley. You noticed how he had his collect data in .03 seconds…lol. He sits at home with his lil data in a Word doc, just waiting for when he can post it.
Poor Georgie….
jewcowboy
March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm
Howdy Paul,
Work has been kicking my bottom lately, but I have to say I’ve been avoiding this blog b/c it has become so acrimonious and personal. People aren’t debating the topic, as much as throwing insults at each other. It just got to be a bit much. Now I just pop in every so often, and if I see the comments are on the very ugly side, I leave.
“As citizens we have to be more thoughtful and more educated and more informed. I turn on the TV and I see these grown people screaming at each other, and I think, well, if we don’t get our civility back, we’re in trouble.” ~ Emmylou Harris
md
March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm
“using someone elses content without permission – ain’t there a name for that? </strong"
What in the world are you talking about???
George W
March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm
AmVet….great job….way to respond!!! hahahahaha
jt
March 30th, 2011
2:15 pm
This one is better Jay——————————straight from the leviathon’s mouth——————
http://www.opm.gov/feorpreports/2003/feorp2003.pdf
jewcowboy
March 30th, 2011
2:16 pm
jm,
“But I was saying he would vote R, EXCEPTING Palin, Bachmann, etc.”
Ahhh… apologies. That’s what I get for skimming
George W
March 30th, 2011
2:16 pm
Joe…..you should be proud of my post? Shouldnt you? haha do the facts hurt…I know you like to live in lala land but sometimes the truth must be shared!
ragnar danneskjold
March 30th, 2011
2:16 pm
Dear George W @ 2:12, “that article talks about blacks as if they are cattle……” I suppose, if one assumes that cattle drive themselves. Or if one thinks of leftist mayors and governors in the rust belt as rustlers, driving them away from where “they belong.”
jm
March 30th, 2011
2:19 pm
DDR “It can be used here as well, if you don’t complain then you are not affected, unhappy, or otherwise hurt by a decision or action.”
I’m sure dead murdered people don’t complain either. Your logic is infallible.
md
March 30th, 2011
2:19 pm
“If no one feels intimidated, if they aren’t making threatening motions, then they are within their rights to be there. That’s why we’re AMERICANS; because we believe in the concept of certain inalienable rights.”
There is “official” testimony (for granny) that staes intimidation did take place……….your talking points don’t seem to jive with the facts.
do you really believe that?
March 30th, 2011
2:19 pm
carlosgvv, congratulations on the most ignorant post I’ve seen on the blogs in awhile (2:13).
Perhaps it’s time to take leave of these blogs. They have become overrun with the worst of the worst in people.
AmVet
March 30th, 2011
2:20 pm
“…give blacks the most civil rights…?
Wow.
According to the Founding Fathers, they were attributed to the creator with all of that unalienable stuff about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Joe Cool
March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm
@Lil Georgie
Why would anyone be “proud” of a post as such? THose facts have nothing to do with me, but I laugh at you because of your OBSESSION over anything regarding “blacks” or even if it doesnt and your attempt to inject it into any topic.
Those “blacks” you hate so much must have really did a number on you…lol.
Do tell where this obsession comes from.
Granny Godzilla
March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm
md
posting without attribution….that’s what you did.
Central eyewitness testimony in last years’ New Black Panthers voter intimidation case is literally terrifying and appalling – but not for the reasons you might think.
Mr_B
March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm
Stipulated: The New Black Panther Party is a group for paranoid race-baiting idiots.
If being a paranoid race-baiting idiot were a federal offense, many here are in deep federal doodoo.
There are no sworn statements from anyone inviloved in this case that claim actual intimidation, that is nobody declined to vote or changed a vote based on the idiotic behavior of these clowns.
No itimidation, no federal case.
AmVet
March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm
Redact to read, by the creator…
Deep Throat
March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm
DebbieDo DT: You support them by protecting them, if you do not support them, denounce them. I double dog dare you.
Do you support the KKK ? Do you denounce them? Why ?
jt
March 30th, 2011
2:21 pm
DebbieDoRight
That is BS for you to put words in my mouth.
Jay asked how blacks could be compelled to overwelmingly vote for democrats. I gave him one reason why this is so.
Unlike you, I would would never screw the black race over by voting democrat. What the feds are doing to these guys is a disgrace.It IS institutionalized racism. But you keep impowering them.(democrat lawyers).
Remember, there are more blacks in prison now than EVER were slaves, thanks to your Uncle Sugar daddy.
Truth hurts but I am not afraid of it.
DebbieDoRight
March 30th, 2011
2:22 pm
Looks like intimidation to me……………….what would some of you call it??
Heresay. Without substantiation what you’ve just posted is nothing more than rumors, innuedo, hearsay and, gossip. Sorry.
DT: Amvet what about Supreme Justices, you got the number nominated by a GOP president ? Or what about the number of black Justices nominated by GOP presidents , that the Left attacked and tried to block their appointment.
I got it…..ONE!!! To All of the above the answer is ONE!!! Whooopeee!! Whadda I win?
George W
March 30th, 2011
2:22 pm
Joe….no obsession just facts……
George W
March 30th, 2011
2:24 pm
jt…….A freaking MEN!
jm
March 30th, 2011
2:24 pm
I hope that those people of all stripes who fought against racism, poll taxes, Jim Crow, etc in this country for 100 years, after 200 years of slavery, did not go to such lengths only to see that some new group could go forth to intimidate others without repercussion.
I didn’t, and I hope others didn’t….
The most sacred right in this country is the right to vote. (Fortunately now extended to everyone). And to see that trampled on in any way is not despicable, it is horrific.
ty webb
March 30th, 2011
2:24 pm
“Do tell where this obsession comes from.”
Now now “joe cool”. This obsession on race, and the interjection of it into every blog topic can hardly be placed at the foot of a singular commenter of a singular political persuasion.
AmVet
March 30th, 2011
2:27 pm
jewcowboy, don’t worry about it brother.
Your input is appreciated.
Regarding the endless personal attacks, etc, by a very small minority, as I noted earlier, it always sorts itself out in the long run.
Or when the host finally gets fed up…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 30th, 2011
2:27 pm
I sure hope these rabid demands for voter intimidation include these reported cases….should these not be investigated fully and completely? Are the right wingers appalled that these accusations of intimidation were looked into by the local clerks office and that no further action was taken?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 30th, 2011
2:28 pm
s/b rebid demand for investigation and prosecution of voter intimidation
jm
March 30th, 2011
2:28 pm
For the legally inclined, the right to vote, is of course not a pure “right”. Ie, those with felonies, in prison, depending on the state, etc., may have had such right revoked temporarily. But that, of course, was not the point of my 2:24.
Deep Throat
March 30th, 2011
2:31 pm
Amvet why do you think so many take exception to you?
Joe Cool
March 30th, 2011
2:32 pm
“Joe….no obsession just facts……”
If that being the case, explain why the need to inject your “facts” when its not even on topic or relevant to the thread?
When you do that, that what shows your true colors and your obsession.
Please do tell where this obsession comes from.
jm
March 30th, 2011
2:32 pm
Keep – that was a pretty useless link, but all voter intimidation should be prosecuted. And I’m not a “right winger”