Georgia’s long-term unemployed about to be abandoned

Unless the state Legislature reverses course quickly, 22,000 Georgia households are going to be stripped of badly needed long-term unemployment benefits by the end of June.

The money may not seem like much — an average of $244 a week per household. But for Georgia families that already have had to survive months without a regular paycheck in the worst economic environment in 80 years, it’s at least something. It helps put food on the table.

But with only four days left in the 2011 session, state leaders are oddly reluctant to take action that would save those benefits.

It ought to be a no-brainer. The money at stake — Georgia’s share would come to an estimated $175 million — has already been appropriated by Congress. Other states with high unemployment rates have already taken steps to accept their share. Georgia leaders have to demonstrate their own willingness to accept it by passing a small, technical change in state law, but so far, they’ve balked.

The question is why.

Brian Robinson, a spokesman for Gov. Nathan Deal, notes that as a member of Congress, Deal voted against extended unemployment benefits and is philosophically opposed to them. As governor, Robinson says, Deal is “studying the issue very closely” but hasn’t decided yet whether he would sign the necessary bill into law.

“We’re fine with the Legislature moving forward on it” while the governor makes up his mind, Robinson said. But Deal will neither champion nor oppose the move.

As head of the state Department of Labor, Labor Commissioner Mark Butler is responsible for administering unemployment benefits and looking out for Georgia workers. But through spokesman Sam Hall, Butler is also taking an oddly passive position.

“The commissioner would support whatever the governor and the Legislature decide to do on the matter,” Hall told me Wednesday.

Of course, it’s not just the long-term unemployed who would benefit from the program. The $175 million at stake would be used to buy groceries at local stores. It would be used to pay rent to landlords, or perhaps fend off foreclosures that in turn would help keep neighorhood property values from plummeting. It would also generate millions of dollars in state income tax revenue.

If the money is rejected, none of that happens.

Despite all that, neither the governor nor the labor commissioner want to be seen as supportive of the idea. They don’t want to be perceived as opposing it; that would make them look heartless and cruel. But given the ideology that dominates their party, they also can’t be seen as advocating assistance for the long-term unemployed.

So they choose to “study the issue” or pretend they have no role. They dump the responsibility on legislators, many of whom are no doubt making the same sort of political calculation as their leaders have. They too don’t want to be seen as killing the program, but many may be perfectly willing to let it die.

Choosing to do nothing is still a choice, however. And it will still have consequences, both for those who can’t find jobs and for the politicians who lacked enough courage and spine to take action.

If legislators follow the example set by the governor and labor commissioner and no action is taken before the session ends, 22,000 hard-up Georgia families in communities across the state will lose their financial lifeline come June 30. They and their extended families and friends will have every right to feel betrayed by state leaders who were elected to serve them, but who chose to serve themselves instead by doing nothing.

– Jay Bookman

590 comments Add your comment

WOW

March 30th, 2011
6:30 pm

Now that the discussion has turned to baseball, I did see a Yankee fan on a plane yesterday. We hit some hard turbulence and he puked into a barf bag. His puking reminded me of what Yankee fans really are.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
6:31 pm

” “the only thing I’ll ever use the AJC for is to line my kids pet parakeets cage with.” It worked, too”

Funny….you don’t look like the bottom of a bird cage

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
6:31 pm

“G-d helps the rich. The poor can beg.” –Ethiopian proverb

Dave R.

March 30th, 2011
6:32 pm

“I assume you’re talking about the effects of money being given away on the average person’s willingness to work for the money when they can lounge about and still receive a hand-out?”

And you would a$$-u-me wrong, LWM.

I don’t give a rat’s patootie about the justice of any system except the legal one. I am the sole person responsible for my actions and results and do not care if someone else makes more money than me, or less. That is their benefit or problem, not mine. And if I wish to I can choose to help those I feel are in need of my help, or not, based on what I know about their particular circumstances.

But I’ll be damned if I will willingly have money taken from me for my hard work to give to others that have not or will not try as hard as I do to make a living.

You problem is that you keep trying to stick your nose into everyone’s business, good or bad, and using the government as your blackmailer in a search for your misguided definition of justice.

World B. Free

March 30th, 2011
6:32 pm

I’m surprised a gawd-fearing, good christian state like georgia would turn its collective back on the less fortunate…

md

March 30th, 2011
6:32 pm

“The talking heads have been discussing for days whether such actions would be legal under the UN resolution…and you’re surprised? Try paying better attention.”

Why would you ASSUME that I am surprised??

Dave R.

March 30th, 2011
6:34 pm

And with that, it’s time for the commute home.

Dusty

March 30th, 2011
6:35 pm

NO, JOSEF, I won’t play in your besotted world of starvation and neglect. If it makes your conscience feel better to declare it, good. I manage to deal with it as I can, not just the world of government dependency as the answer.

I don’t doubt your good intentions but sometimes I do wonder about your view of honest reality. It seems to run a bit wild at times. Then again, you face little ones every day. Do you really think they are starving?

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
6:36 pm

World B

Well, like the old spiritual says, “everybody talking ’bout heaven ain’t goin’ there..”

Libya and Obama…

My 4th graders brought it up today,,,interesting comments…their mouths to G-d’s ears….

Soothsayer

March 30th, 2011
6:37 pm

Left wing management

March 30th, 2011
6:37 pm

Dave R. :

Good on you for ceding point on Romney. Surprised the media didn’t pick up on it. Then again, my opinion of the media is lukewarm at best for a reason.

To put my other point a little more simply: the concerns you express about motivation and government aid are undermined when you have certain mega-earners in the financial sector – namely Wall Street hedge fund managers – who, regardless of how hard they actually work, I doubt work any harder than the average janitor or restaurant manager yet are able to accumulate sums of such volume that they can over time start buying favors in the political system (ensuring they stay within a favorable tax loophole status for ex.). A similar principle holds in the corporate world in general. So when you have financial managers pulling in yearly earnings in the billions with a B and you have average CEOs making not 10 or 20x the average worker but more like 200 – 300x as much, then I say you can no longer claim that the system operates based on ‘common sense’ morality of incentive, thrift, and industriousness. Instead it becomes a lottery or crony casino, etc. Only a radical reform of that system will return us to a place where we can demand common virtue from the ordinary worker in return for maintaining his social safety net.

AmVet

March 30th, 2011
6:37 pm

“Like I said, can’t I play in the hyperbole playground with you?”

Not if you hate rich people, josef!

Hey, I found wow on the Intertubes! Or is it harry? (I get them mixed up.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQb1sSZnlU

OK, off to the gym.

I know it’s fun, but try not to feed the trolls!

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
6:38 pm

DUSTY
What part of hyperbole don’t you get? Sometimes you’re as dense as the Black Forest of Germany! Hungry? THAT I do see and do see a lot of…much more than you with your blinders on would ever like to admit exists here in our land of plenty…

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
6:39 pm

“Why would you ASSUME that I am surprised??”

I didn’t. You already appear to know what a question mark is for…so I won’t have to explain to you why I USED one

Kerry

March 30th, 2011
6:39 pm

You party fouls just don’t get it do you. Ever heard of divide and conquer. Both the Dems and Reps are just setting their laughing at the voters. They have you both fighting each other as they both rob this country blind. Government shuts down, Congress gets paid, health insurance most people can not afford, but congress has theirs paid for life. Wake up people. Just wait until all the cuts are done in local government and you will not be able to leave your house with out it being broken into and good luck getting emergency care or the fire department to come out.

Soothsayer

March 30th, 2011
6:39 pm

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 30th, 2011
6:42 pm

Josef @ 6:18

Well, there is that. Or if somebody in the Metro area needs a reservoir and wants to come take our land, to build it.

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
6:42 pm

AmVet

Aw, why limit it to just two,…that one qualifies as the blog mascot!

And I don’t hate the rich…gently sauteed in lemon butter garlic with fresh baby asparagus and a nice dry Riesling they can be quite tasty..

md

March 30th, 2011
6:42 pm

“To put my other point a little more simply: the concerns you express about motivation and government aid are undermined when you have certain mega-earners in the financial sector – namely Wall Street hedge fund managers – who, regardless of how hard they actually work, I doubt work any harder than the average janitor or restaurant manager yet are able to accumulate sums of such volume that they can over time start buying favors in the political system”

Last I checked, one had the choice as to which profession to enter……………..

md

March 30th, 2011
6:43 pm

“You already appear to know what a question mark is for…so I won’t have to explain to you why I USED one”

Uh-huh………..

Soothsayer

March 30th, 2011
6:44 pm

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
6:45 pm

Hillbilly

Capitalist Colonialist Running Dogs of Carpetbag-Scalawag Yankee Imperialism! (And, no, that’s not hyperbole!)

Left wing management

March 30th, 2011
6:47 pm

Dave R: “I am the sole person responsible for my actions and results and do not care if someone else makes more money than me, or less. ”

Ok, I see. Then we’ll have to agree to disagree. I would just point out to you that if you claim not to care how much others make, that’s misguided. And indeed it seems to give the lie to your earlier claim that money is finite and to some extent a zero sum affair (from the standpoint of budgets). Well, if you have a collection of a half dozen higher earners in financial speculation who between them have income equal that of huge swaths of the population, then that is eventually going to have an effect on those same budget realities you claim to be so concerned about. It’s been claimed e.g. that if we were simply to enforce a ‘reasonable’ tax rate on those 12 or so hedge fund managers who last year had $1 b and up in income (in other words, if we were to increase their tax rate up to what Warren Buffet’s secretary makes on her measly little $40k salary) that alone would generate enough money to support salaries and benefits for hundreds of thousands of teachers.

Now it would be one thing if those same people who defend the low hedge fund tax rates weren’t also turning around and claiming we can’t afford to pay our teachers and public employees for basic services and that we’re broke and have to slash left and right. Now THAT is what in my mind you ought to care about what these people are making. It’s all of our business.

So when you start looking at it like this, th

Soothsayer

March 30th, 2011
6:49 pm

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 30th, 2011
6:50 pm

josef

Yeah, Colonialism is alive and well in the 21st century. Probably outlive both of us, too. The Colonialist do it for our own good, though, bless their hearts.

World B. Free

March 30th, 2011
6:50 pm

Nothing finer then the smell of stetson cologne and a angry old goper with a few bourbons in his belly wafting thru coach seating…

Left wing management

March 30th, 2011
6:52 pm

md: “Last I checked, one had the choice as to which profession to enter……………..”

You have got to be kidding me.

You’re going to tell me that an average kid in a working class environment has anywhere near the shot at breaking into the world of mega-earning high finance as the upper middle and upper class children?

The idea that the system is fair and wide open for anyone to enter is the biggest lie of all – and you fall for it.

Believe me, when you have a class of people making yearly income in the billions with a B, there are going to be some considerable entry barriers.

Dusty

March 30th, 2011
6:52 pm

Well, JOSEF, I see you are now the expert on starvation in America and anybody with another view is dumb. Do your students not get a free lunch every day and some even get breakfast? Yet you say you see them starving!

Anyone who lets their children starve in Atlanta is probably on drugs or purely ignorant. I would guess that the children of America are probably the best fed in the world. I can’t prove that but I don’t doubt that it is true. As I have mentioned, obesity is more the problem than starvation. Mrs. Obama seems to think so.

“The poor we have with us always.” But we never give up trying not to. Believe it or not, I am tryng too.

Off to dinner…

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
6:52 pm

Sooth 6:49 — and a four wheel drive at that.

Kinda makes me wonder, will the four wheel drive be necessary when picking up passengers or dropping them off at the soiree?

Adam

March 30th, 2011
6:53 pm

I see the birth certificate thing came up again. I guess we have Donald Trump to thank for this.

Here, again, is an article that proves

1) the birth certificate HAS been SHOWN
2) the birth certificate is REAL
3) Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii (which is one of the 50 United States, in case anyone wasn’t clear on that point)

Here it is, AGAIN: http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

And please, don’t be an idiot. Read beyond the first paragraph. It would be nice, if you are honest with yourself, to read the whole thing.

Soothsayer

March 30th, 2011
6:54 pm

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
6:55 pm

Hillbilly

Not out to poke, but I can’t for the life of me see how some people with a liberal view and an education cannot see that. Frankly, I think they can, they just don’t want to admit it. To do so would necessitate acknowledging their own roles in perpetuating the, uh, what do they call us, “anachronistic,” system. And as we know, no Major Historian dares touch the subject, they a few General Historians will!

@@

March 30th, 2011
6:57 pm

josef & Hillbilly:

We’ve discussed this so you’ll find it interesting.

STRATFOR is reporting that Assad made no concessions in his speech today. Feeling confident, he is. The reason? It’s the Muslim Brotherhood who’s been promoting much of the violence. They’re pushing the envelope in looking for the U.S. to intervene so they can fill the void.

Kinda like what happened in Egypt. It was the youth’s movement, but because they weren’t organized, the MB interjected themselves into the movement and won a seat at the table. The youth didn’t.

So I’ll expect a crackdown with no U.S. interference. I think Assad has cut a deal…with Turkey acting as the go-between.

Suspense and intrigue.

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
6:57 pm

DUSTY

I never said “dumb.” I said dense…there’s a big difference there…but enjoy your dinner, just don’t choke on it… :-)

@@

March 30th, 2011
6:58 pm

“in” should be “and”

IHB

Left wing management

March 30th, 2011
6:58 pm

md:

Forgot to add the crucial point:

Believe me, when you have a class of people making yearly income in the billions with a B, there are going to be some considerable entry barriers – and they aren’t going to be strictly merit-based.

steve

March 30th, 2011
6:59 pm

I thought this economy was booming Jay? Remember the summer of recovery last year? The Obama stimulus that was supposed to ensure unemployment would never rise above 8%? This article doesn’t make much sense unless you admit the Obama economy continues to slump and sink.

md

March 30th, 2011
7:00 pm

“You’re going to tell me that an average kid in a working class environment has anywhere near the shot at breaking into the world of mega-earning high finance as the upper middle and upper class children? ”

Absolutely……….Warren Buffet himself started one step at a time………

You seem to be living in the land of excuses vs the land of opportunity……

There are countless millionaires in this world that started from nothing……you do them a disservice with your excuses.

We choose everything we do……….including making excuses for the choices we didn’t make…..

jconservative

March 30th, 2011
7:00 pm

The $175 million is a grant to the State that does not need to be paid back. But the State must accept the money. Ask and ye shall receive. Ask not and ye will not receive.

This is a good way to cut State revenue, if anyone is interested in cutting revenue.

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
7:01 pm

@@

I’ve had my suspicions on Turkey’s role in the Byzantine shennanigans…they’ve got their own MB angst…what’s the saying thereabouts? “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

Dusty

March 30th, 2011
7:06 pm

Thank you, Josef. If I can overlook your dense obsessions as fiddle faddle, I certainly won’t choke on dinner. It’s meatloaf tonight. A good one too.

I don’t let my children STARVE even when they are six feet tall!! So there!

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 30th, 2011
7:07 pm

josef

Most “major historians” don’t get to be “major” by rocking the boat. Politics in that profession, like any other.

@@

Syria is interesting, although I’m not 100% up to speed. I don’t see anybody interfering much there. I doubt that the U.S/NATO alliance will, and the Arab League really doesn’t want this democracy thing to get out of hand, they just hope to sacrifice Gaddafi to take heat off themselves. It’ll be interesting to see what Israel does towards Syria. On the one hand, I’m sure they’d love to see a different regime in power but on the other hand, in spite of Syria’s mischief making in the region, the border between Syria and Israel has been relatively quiet for a good while. They might choose to go with the devil they know, so to speak.

By the way, have you ever read “America’s Secret War”by George Friedman? Interesting book.

Truth Squad

March 30th, 2011
7:09 pm

@Dave R…..if you don’t agree that for every $1 in assistance to the unemployed, there is a benefit of more than that to the economy, then PROVE IT!

I think Jay already did a great job of breaking down for us just why the economy benefits when assistance is given, and why it doesn’t when it is withheld.

Don’t call names and then run; that proves nothing. In fact, people might think you lack the capacity for thoughtful debate and cannot back up your claims in a plain , common sense, jargon-free manner.

md

March 30th, 2011
7:12 pm

Billionaires that started from nothing:

http://www.hotelresortinsider.com/news_story.php?news_id=801

And since we do choose everything we do, if one chooses to tell oneself that life ain’t fair and there are roadblocks and ………odds are they will fail.

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
7:15 pm

And since we do choose everything we do…

My Da chose to have cancer?

That’s just silly.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
7:16 pm

“odds are they will fail.”

and how many billions do YOU have?

cmac22

March 30th, 2011
7:17 pm

obozo is such a boob!

Obama in 2002: Toppling Brutal Dictator a ‘Dumb War’
Wednesday, March 30, 2011
By Matt Cover

President Barack Obama

President Barack Obama pauses during his speech on America’s energy security, in this photo taken Wednesday, March 30, 2011, at McDonough at Gymnasium Georgetown University in Washington. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

(CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama, as an Illinois state senator in 2002, said that using military force to topple a murderous dictator amounted to a “dumb war” and should be opposed.

The “dumb war” Obama was criticizing was the planned invasion of Iraq and the murderous dictator was its leader, Saddam Hussein. Obama, speaking at an anti-war rally in Chicago on Oct. 2, 2002 said that while Saddam was a brutal tyrant, that was not enough to justify using military force to remove him from power.

“Now, let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein,” said Obama in his speech. “He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied U.N. resolutions, thwarted U.N. inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.”

“… After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this administration’s pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such tragedy from happening again,” said Obama. “I don’t oppose all wars. … What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.”

Obama argued that deposing Saddam militarily was not necessary, because Iraq posed no “direct threat” to the United States. Obama also cited Iraq’s weakened economy and the fact that it was still possible to contain Saddam’s aggression, repudiating the Bush administration’s rationale that Saddam posed too great a threat to American interests and his own people to be left in power.

“But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military is a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history,” said Sen. Obama.

However, as president of the United States, Obama has discounted those same arguments he once made against using military force against brutal dictators.

In his March 28, 2011 speech justifying his decision to attack the government of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, Obama cited Gadhafi’s record of brutality, saying that allowing Gadhafi to continue his brutality was not an option.

“Qaddafi declared he would show ‘no mercy’ to his own people,” said President Obama. “He compared them to rats, and threatened to go door to door to inflict punishment. In the past, we have seen him hang civilians in the streets, and kill over a thousand people in a single day.

“Now we saw regime forces on the outskirts of the city,” Obama said. “We knew that if we waited, if we waited one more day, Benghazi, a city nearly the size of Charlotte, could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.”

Gadhafi, apparently unlike Saddam, needed to be stopped because he would kill his own people to maintain his own power, an act that this time posed a threat to America’s “interests and values,” Obama said.

“But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act,” said Obama. “That’s what happened in Libya over the course of these last six weeks.”

Obama, in his 2002 speech, said that instead of deposing Saddam through force, America should “fight” for democratic reforms in countries such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt, stronger international nuclear safeguards, and energy independence.

“Those are the battles that we need to fight,” Obama said in 2002. “Those are the battles that we willingly join – the battles against ignorance and intolerance, corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.”

By 2011, however, Obama had come to endorse the use of military power to enforce America’s “responsibility as a [global] leader” arguing that the United States was “different” and therefore had no other choice but to attack Libya.

“To brush aside America’s responsibility as a leader and, more profoundly, our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are,” he said. “Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different.”

md

March 30th, 2011
7:18 pm

“My Da chose to have cancer?”

“We do”………………………

elsee

March 30th, 2011
7:18 pm

I have a very good friend who has been out of work for over a year. Over 50, well qualified but too qualified. $244 a week will feed her children and put gas in her car. That is it. she is in danger of losing her home. (Not a weird loan). Utilities are off and on. Where is the help here. She is a white, divorced mother of two. Owns her home and has no debt other than her home which is underwater. What should she do all of you self righteous republicans with jobs and money to talk?

Jay

March 30th, 2011
7:18 pm

md, I think most people will agree that it’s possible to make such a leap, just as it’s possible to run a 4-minute mile. But only a select handful are capable of it.

On the other hand, if you only have to run a half mile in those four minutes, or even a quarter mile, your odds improve quite a lot.

And no, we’re not talking about guaranteeing equal outcomes, just a little more equitable starting point. Most of the recent research on the topic has shown that contrary to folklore, the US has less economic mobility than most other industrialized economies. It didn’t used to be that way, but it is now.

@@

March 30th, 2011
7:18 pm

josef:

We’ve been grooming Turkey to take the lead in the Arab word. What Arab country DOESN’T have a MB? And Syria? We’ve got years of “diplomacy” invested in Assad. He’s Iran’s only friend but maybe not, in reality. SOMEBODY got Hamas to back off on their attacks against Israel. I’m betting it WASN’T Ahmadenijad.

Hillbilly:

I agree! I was talking to my former minister (The Brit). Said he was suprised when he heard Syria had been under “emergency rule” for the last 40 years. His knowledge of and close friends in Syria have made no mention of it. He sees the country as pretty progressive by comparison.

I’ve seen the book but haven’t read it. I’ve got a friend who has…I’ll ask him if I can borrow it.

md

March 30th, 2011
7:21 pm

“and how many billions do YOU have?”

I’ve already raised my hand and stated I didn’t make the choices……………..and I refuse to make excuses for the choices I didn’t make.

cmac22

March 30th, 2011
7:21 pm

Anymore news on obozo’s Afghan “kill team”?

Kamchak

March 30th, 2011
7:23 pm

Anymore news on obozo’s Afghan “kill team”?

Your google broke?

cmac22

March 30th, 2011
7:25 pm

Google is just fine! love to Google “obama’s poll numbers” ….. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

BADA BING

March 30th, 2011
7:25 pm

Well, if you are going to continue these payments indefinitely, you are going to have to change the name of it and call it what it is…..welfare.

@@

March 30th, 2011
7:25 pm

In a way, just like Russia (natural gas/Europe), Syria is sitting in the catbird seat. Everybody wants to win points with Syria. Could there be a more “reliable partner”? I don’t have an answer to that.

Alls I can say is….when they’re all we’ve got, they’re all we’ve got. The lesser of two evils.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
7:26 pm

“I’ve already raised my hand and stated I didn’t make the choices”

A decision not made is not, by definition, a decision you can NEVER make. Get busy, make that choice and get those billions rolling in. After all, it’s up to you…all you have to do is make the right choice.

Right?

md

March 30th, 2011
7:27 pm

Well Jay, life ain’t fair and never will be………if folks redirect the energy they use to complain, maybe they would have a head start………….

I’ve seen numerous people spend hours trying to get out of doing something when they could have been done hours beforehand had they just done it.

And choices will forever keep the playing field uneven, no matter how hard one tries to level it. Effort, choices, motivation, etc all factor in to the equation ………

Starting with education………those that don’t take it seriously will forever be playing catchup.

Del

March 30th, 2011
7:28 pm

Doesn’t matter what congress appropriates, we’re broke the country is broke even though we spend money as though we’re not like what we’re doing now in Libya. The reality is that we’re getting down to the local communities as the last and only resort for the poor. Faith based charity will need to factor in greatly as it actually has without any reporting on its role. The liberal secularists hate the mere thought of it but reality is reality.

GrowGeorgia

March 30th, 2011
7:30 pm

It’s a no-brainer to bring federal money into these communities hardest hit by long term unemployment. Milledgeville, for example, has 15% unemployment right now due to plants closing up and moving abroad. The unemployment check pays landlord, grocer, shoestore, gas sation, drug store. Keep families afloat while they hunt their next job, and keep the small businesses afloat – no brainer!

BADA BING

March 30th, 2011
7:30 pm

There are no jobs available. When the economy comes back, the older people and some unskilled workers may still NEVER get another job, or be vastly under-employed. That will call for drastic measures that some people do not understand yet. Some people will never return to the life that they had, major life changes will be required.

md

March 30th, 2011
7:31 pm

“A decision not made is not, by definition, a decision you can NEVER make. Get busy, make that choice and get those billions rolling in. After all, it’s up to you…all you have to do is make the right choice.

Right?”

Absolutely……I’m working on it………

Don’t get me wrong, I’m taking baby steps every day…….but I also acknowledge some choices are not as productive as they could be…like being on this time sucking blog.

But I choose to be here…….so no excuses.

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
7:31 pm

JAY

Since you’re here and I know it’s off topic, but what is your take on Syria?

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 30th, 2011
7:31 pm

Fortunate in my ancestors……. I was supremely so in my birthplace. Where one is born is very important, for different surroundings and traditions appeal to and stimulate different latent tendencies in the child.

Andrew Carnegie

Bruno

March 30th, 2011
7:32 pm

josef–I didn’t know if you saw this article about a newly discovered 2000 year old Biblical artifact:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110330/ts_yblog_thelookout/could-lead-codices-prove-the-major-discovery-of-christian-history

Interesting discovery.

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

Grow Georgia

“…no brainer…”

Yep. But evidently logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead…

Bada

“…drastic consequences…”

And I don’t see those being addressed…

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

“like being on this time sucking blog.

But I choose to be here…….so no excuses.”

Nothing like contradicting yourself in less than an inch of type

md

March 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

Bruno…..read that earlier……….interesting to say the least. Makes a heathen like me think……….never hurts to review the possibilities………….

Del

March 30th, 2011
7:35 pm

Time to get the illegals out of this country, while bringing manufacturing back home from China and India so Americans can once again do the jobs that the fool politicians have said they won’t do.

Greedy Old People, Inc., A Magazine for the Privileged

March 30th, 2011
7:36 pm

md

March 30th, 2011
7:18 pm
“My Da chose to have cancer?”

“We do”………………………

WTF!

md

March 30th, 2011
7:36 pm

“Nothing like contradicting yourself in less than an inch of type”

Not at all…..I have plenty of irons in the fire….only time will tell which ones may or may not pay off……

Lisa

March 30th, 2011
7:37 pm

I agree the leaders have left long term unemployed Georgians abandoned, so long as they are in office now they are happy and could care less about the promises that led them to the golden dome. I hope they can sleep at night knowing that a once hard working voter is now hungry and possibly on the streets with their families! Tables do turn and I hope it gets better for my fellow Georgians who are looking for work after being out of work for an what the leaders say is to long. I was out of work for over a year, I LOST alot but I am working now,thanks to God and not the leaders. Last June they abandonded me I had absolutely no income for three months while they “studied the issue”. Amazing the way it works, you pay into a system all your working life and when you need it, it closes down!

md

March 30th, 2011
7:37 pm

Uh……we do……having cancer is not a “do”……..think about it.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 30th, 2011
7:38 pm

Speaking of polls:

(CNN) — Nearly half of all Americans have an unfavorable view of the Tea Party movement, putting it in the same company as the Democratic and Republican parties, according to a new national poll.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Wednesday indicates that 32% of the public have a favorable view of the two-year-old anti-tax movement, which also calls for less government spending and a more limited role for the federal government in our lives. The 32% favorable rating is down five points from December.

The people questioned for the poll who say they have an unfavorable view of the Tea Party is 47%, up four points from December and an increase of 21 points from January 2010. That number is virtually identical to the 48% unfavorable ratings for both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party in the same poll.

Jay

March 30th, 2011
7:38 pm

Well, Josef, there are a couple of ways to interpret that question. If by “what’s your take on Syria?,” you mean what should we do about it, my answer would be nothing.

But I’m rooting for Assad’s ouster. He and his family have been nothing but trouble, especially for the Syrian people. His removal might be bad news for the Iranians, who have been their allies, which would be good for us and Israel. However, it might also be good news for the Muslim Brotherhood folks, which might be bad for us and Israel.

But since we have no way of knowing the outcome, and no real way of influencing it ….

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
7:39 pm

BRUNO

I had not seen that…thanks…very interesting…more Essenes, perhaps?

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
7:39 pm

“Not at all”

I’m not a BIT surprised you can’t see the contradiction…not one bit surprised.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
7:40 pm

Heard on TV “If there were no customers, there would be no Nationwide” – have to remember that one the nest time someone calls me stupid for saying that customers come first!

Bruno

March 30th, 2011
7:41 pm

Makes a heathen like me think

Historical discoveries which “support” the Bible don’t sway me much. Many novels use a factual context to weave the fictional story around. Corroborating the factual part doesn’t make the fictional part any less fictional. But still a great discovery nonetheless, assuming it isn’t some type of hoax.

Greedy Old People, Inc., A Magazine for the Privileged

March 30th, 2011
7:42 pm

Uh……we do……having cancer is not a “do”……..think about it.

I believe the original statement was one of contradiction to your claim that we choose everything to which you proclaimed “we do.” I thought about it and replied appropriately with WTF! to which you replied with something as equally senseless as your other claims.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
7:43 pm

Del @ 7:35

Sounds good, but those manufacturing jobs are never coming back. The only way we’ll see them again is if the cost of manufacturing here becomes cheaper than the costs abroad. With free trade (no tarriffs) and substantially cheap labor abroad, Americans would have to work for damn near free to bring manufacturing jobs back.

I don’t know what the answer is, but it’s going to be a long, long time before employment returns back to “normal”, if it ever does. Americans are going to have to make hard decisions on even the most basic of things in order to survive. Outside of government, Wal Mart is the country’s largest employer. That should tell you how fu*ked up we are right now.

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
7:43 pm

JAY

That’s what I meant by “take…” I see it much the same way…and Syria does have a strong secular tradition…maybe not the most democratic, but secular nonetheless…and if their reformers do have a model in mind, I’d lay my bets on Turkey…

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
7:45 pm

“The only way we’ll see them again is if the cost of manufacturing here becomes cheaper than the costs abroad”

That day may be closer than you think. I’ve starting hearing…here and there…interviews with business men who say something along the lines of wondering if the cost and effort of shipping raw materials overseas and then shipping the finished goods back here is really worth the overall cost.

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 30th, 2011
7:47 pm

Outside of government, Wal Mart is the country’s largest employer. That should tell you how fu*ked up we are right now.

On the bright side, WalMart is on the rise in China, too. ;-)

Mr_B

March 30th, 2011
7:50 pm

Bruno: I wouldn’t get too excited about this. Every couple of years someboby in the Levant claims some sort of similar discovery: always with some sort of mysterious provenence, and never in the original context. Way too much money at stake in that part of the world.

JohnnyReb

March 30th, 2011
7:51 pm

CNN poll on the Tea Party is like the DOJ finding the DOJ not guilty in dropping the black panther lawsuit.

josef nix

March 30th, 2011
7:54 pm

Mr B
Shalom…but don’t forget, there are the Dead Sea Scrolls…ya never know! Them Essenes were a wiley lot!

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
7:55 pm

Doggone

I’d be happy to see that happen, especially if it happens before I die. I have no faith in the men/women who make those decisions.

HD

:lol:

JohnnyReb

March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm

Re, USA manufacturing. For the culprit, look no further than the unholy trinity: EPA, OSHA, and Unions.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
7:57 pm

“CNN poll on the Tea Party”

Looks like someone failed to notice it was ALSO a poll on both the Reps AND the Dems…and wasn’t favorable to ANY of them.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
7:59 pm

Re, USA manufacturing. For the culprit, look no further than the unholy trinity: EPA, OSHA, and Unions.

Had you said lobbyists, free trade agreements, and politicians, I might have agreed with you. If you remove the free trade agreements along with the lobbyists and politicians that make them happen, it would still be more cost effective to produce here.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
7:59 pm

“I have no faith in the men/women who make those decisions.”

Oh, it’s always going to come down to money. Yes, we’ve shipped a lot of jobs overseas and that has hurt us, but in the long run we’ve also created a lot of new consumers and it’s going to work out that businesses will find that it’s more economical to have their manufacturing closer to the market.

I don’t see the jobs “coming back” in the sense of not being “there” any more. I see them coming back in the sense of ALSO being here.

Del

March 30th, 2011
8:02 pm

SoCo, you make sound points but I still think that as the largest consumer market in the world (I know it’s rapidly slipping away as other foreign markets grow) we can negotiate far better trade agreements than what we’ve done. We’re giving away our technological advantages to countries like India and China. We do so in order to open markets in those countries that they’ll allow to open only slightly in return. The leverage they hold over our government is their continued financing of our debt. The chickens are coming home to roost and the ultimate reversal won’t be pretty.

JohnnyReb

March 30th, 2011
8:03 pm

There is obviously sufficient Leftist media to sway public opinion. And we all know the outcome of polls can be influenced by the structure of questions. It’s also obvious the Liberal media has kicked into gear at the same Dems are fighting Repubs over the budget and Obama has started campaigning (if he ever stopped).

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 30th, 2011
8:03 pm

Doggone

I’ll have to hope and pray that you’re right. If we had more of a sense of nationality and pride of America instead of self-pride, I’d be more inclined to believe as you do. As long as we have the “every man for himself” mentality here, we’re doomed.

Jay

March 30th, 2011
8:06 pm

Actually, JohnnyReb, if you look at manufacturing value-added, we’re producing just about as much as we ever did. We’re just doing it with technology/machinery, meaning much fewer jobs. Our manufacturing amounted to $1.5 trillion in 1976, and over $3 trillion now, all adjusted for inflation.

@@

March 30th, 2011
8:07 pm

His removal might be bad news for the Iranians, who have been their allies, which would be good for us and Israel.

But Netanyahu is supporting Assad during the protests.

Does anybody recall when George Mitchell was handed a proposal (map) by Netanyahu that indicated how far he was willing to withdraw from the Golan Heights? He even showed it to Obama. In exchange, Netanyahu wanted Syria to break off military ties with Iran and terminate their backing for Hizbullah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and a bunch of Palestinian terrorist organizations that enjoy sanctuary in Syria.

Not an easy task for Assad but one that can be accomplished over time. I just can’t see what Assad hopes to gain from hanging with Iran.

Perhaps I’m thinking too simplistically.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2011
8:07 pm

“As long as we have the “every man for himself” mentality here, we’re doomed”

But I think you’re thinking too much of the existing companies. You’re overlooking the hole they’ve opened for someone else to fill.

Jay

March 30th, 2011
8:08 pm

An you know, as long as the right leans on that “liberal media” crutch to explain the lack of popular support for their ideas, they’re going to have a hard time.