Obama administration under fire on transparency
WASHINGTON — The Homeland Security Department official in charge of submitting sensitive government files to political advisers for secretive reviews before they could be released to citizens, journalists and watchdog groups complained in emails that the unusual scrutiny was “crazy” and hoped someone outside the Obama administration would discover the practice, The Associated Press has learned.
Chief Privacy Officer Mary Ellen Callahan, who was appointed by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, complained in late 2009 that the vetting process was burdensome and said she wanted to change it, according to uncensored emails newly obtained by the AP. In the emails, she warned that the Homeland Security Department might be sued over delays the political reviews were causing, and she hinted that a reporter might find out about the vetting. The reviews are the subject of a congressional hearing later this week and an ongoing inquiry by the department’s inspector general….
Callahan is expected to be a central witness during an oversight hearing Thursday by the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee. Anticipating the hearing, the department announced internally Monday that any further political vetting of information requests will be completed within 24 hours. The congressional investigation into government transparency under President Barack Obama is among the earliest by Republicans since they won control of the House and targets one of the first pledges Obama made after he moved into the White House.
Good for Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight Committee for bringing this to light and pursuing it. Political control and delay of Freedom of Information requests is simply unacceptable, particularly from an administration that claims to believe in government transparency.
Among other things, the hearings that begin Thursday will focus on how emails regarding the FOIA process at Homeland Security had been heavily censored before being released to the AP seven months ago. (The quotes cited above are taken from uncensored versions of those same emails, presumably obtained by Issa’s committee and leaked to the press.)
As the AP reports:
“The (newly leaked) emails also raise doubts about whether the emails previously released to the AP were properly censored. “The government should not keep information confidential merely because public officials might be embarrassed by disclosure, because errors and failures might be revealed or because of speculative or abstract fears,” Obama said shortly after he took office….
The government censored Callahan’s email that described the “crazy” scrutiny by political advisers. It also censored another email by associate FOIA director William Holzerland, who told Callahan in September 2009 that the political reviews were “bananas!” Also censored were complaints by Papoi, the former deputy, that the political reviews were “meddling” and, together with “constant stonewalling” by the department’s top lawyers, causing delays in the agency’s open records department.
The administration claims that the emails were censored properly, “under a provision in the Freedom of Information Act allowing the government to withhold passages that describe internal policy-making deliberations.” Issa apparently doesn’t buy it, and I don’t either. This is how government is supposed to work, one branch keeping another in check, forcing it to obey the law and keep its promises to the American people. If the hearings prove embarrassing to the Obama administration and force it to handle FOIA requests more straightforwardly in the future, that can only be a good thing.
– Jay Bookman
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George W
March 29th, 2011
1:42 pm
Joe…..yep it has a nice ring to it doesnt it?
George W
March 29th, 2011
1:43 pm
Granny….and your Lord Obama is yours?
JohnnyReb
March 29th, 2011
1:43 pm
Granny – they don’t have to “scare” someone to be in violation of the law, which they were. It’s not my place to file a civil suit. It is the responsibility of the sworn government officials to enforce the law.
Again, the lack of prosecution yells volumes about Obama and his whole gang.
George W
March 29th, 2011
1:43 pm
Wouldnt MLK be proud!!
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
1:43 pm
George W is afraid of the new black panthers…..what are there half a dozen?
Too funny.
George W
March 29th, 2011
1:44 pm
Johnny…..nice word “gang”….very fitting.
Jonas
March 29th, 2011
1:44 pm
Obama/deportation/CBOE
DC numbers are run and expressed by folks that would make Enron, Worldcom, Madoff look like solid bean counters.
For much of this year, the Obama administration touted its tougher-than-ever approach to immigration enforcement, culminating in a record number of deportations.
But in reaching 392,862 deportations, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement included more than 19,000 immigrants who had exited the previous fiscal year, according to agency statistics. ICE also ran a Mexican repatriation program five weeks longer than ever before, allowing the agency to count at least 6,500 exits that, without the program, would normally have been tallied by the U.S. Border Patrol.
When ICE officials realized in the final weeks of the fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30, that the agency still was in jeopardy of falling short of last year’s mark, it scrambled to reach the goal. Officials quietly directed immigration officers to bypass backlogged immigration courts and time-consuming deportation hearings whenever possible, internal e-mails and interviews show.
George W
March 29th, 2011
1:44 pm
Granny supports the black panthers because she is too weak to stand on her own…..
Too Funny!
rezy
March 29th, 2011
1:45 pm
Everyone knows that the left are the most hateful and racist people in the world
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2011
1:45 pm
“If they are doing it wrongly, face it and fix it.”
Agreed. The “transparency” issue is one of the things I have not been happy about, either, with this admin
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
1:46 pm
JohnnyReb
March 29th, 2011
1:43 pm
Granny – they don’t have to “scare” someone to be in violation of the law, which they were. It’s not my place to file a civil suit. It is the responsibility of the sworn government officials to enforce the law.
Again, the lack of prosecution yells volumes about Obama and his whole gang.
The lack of understanding of the incident and the laws treatment of said incident is a pretty damn big indicator of your
biggest problems – ignorance of the situation and fear of scarey black men
Y
Bosch
March 29th, 2011
1:46 pm
“Eric Holder should be thrown out over the Black Panther thing.”
Why should the AG be thrown out for refusing to prosecute a case that had no evidence — one that the former AG didn’t even prosecute.
That’s just stupid.
Joe Cool
March 29th, 2011
1:46 pm
“Joe…..yep it has a nice ring to it doesnt it”
Nope, Makes You Sound Like The Kid In The Class Who Screams For Attn, Since They Dont Get Any At Home.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 29th, 2011
1:46 pm
George W
March 29th, 2011
1:39 pm
Did you guys see where there are more black men in prisons today than were ever held in slavery?? WOW great work!!
And how many more black men are in the country today than during the days of slavery? But yes, I do agree with you that the continued repression of black people during the 100+ years following the civil war has lead to a unfortunate system of crime and poverty. Thanks for lifting the hood and caring…..dont know that the WOW had anything to do with it.
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
1:47 pm
If he thinks those new black panthers are scarey….hope he never meets
my friend Marions Mah Jong club…..those are some tough old birds.
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2011
1:48 pm
Granny – “Actually, yes it does”
When you grandkids grow up, you can have the great pleasure of watching thim make a list of which laws they will and won’t obey. And, even though by then America will be a cesspool, your conscience will be clear. Right?
moonbat betty
March 29th, 2011
1:49 pm
Obama has turned out to be a fraud
Had Obama not delivered the keynote address at the 2004 democratic convention, John Edwards would be president today.
George W
March 29th, 2011
1:49 pm
Keep….yep you are right it is the big bad white man that has caused your people to rape, steal, rob and murder each other. Look all over the world at your people and tell me where this same problem doesnt exist.
Way to ownt he problem…..
Joe Cool
March 29th, 2011
1:50 pm
George W Was Propbally The Kid Who Got Picked On By Some Black Kid Growing Up And It Has Haunted Him Ever Since. Its Okay Georgie. lol
Bosch
March 29th, 2011
1:50 pm
“Agreed. The “transparency” issue is one of the things I have not been happy about, either, with this admin”
Ditto for me. In my opinion, it’s easy to bitch and complain about something while campaigning, then when you get the job, you have to change your tune based on new information you know.
George W
March 29th, 2011
1:50 pm
Joe….propbally???? Is that Ebonics?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 29th, 2011
1:53 pm
My people? My people are Americans…..but your right, I am not proud of all their actions. I find your actions especially shameful as you support robbery, theft, murder and rape.
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
1:53 pm
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2011
1:48 pm
Granny – “Actually, yes it does”
When you grandkids grow up, you can have the great pleasure of watching thim make a list of which laws they will and won’t obey. And, even though by then America will be a cesspool, your conscience will be clear. Right?
ACtually I will be right beside them as my parents were beside me as we fight to make bad laws go away and better ones take their place. Hope you manage to get off the couch long enough to teach your kids the same thing
Ah, I fondly remember that very first earth day……a great family day.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2011
1:53 pm
“When you grandkids grow up, you can have the great pleasure of watching thim make a list of which laws they will and won’t obey”
Do you ever drive over the speedlimit, or make a turn or lane change without turning on your turn signal? If you’ve done any of those, you have broken the law. Which also means you have CHOSEN which laws you will and won’t obey.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 29th, 2011
1:54 pm
In the meantime, @BronxZoosCobra has tweeted about trips to the Financial District (“Leaving Wall Street. These guys make my skin crawl”), celebrity sightings (“Rockefeller Plaza is amaz… wait… OMG! Tina Fey totally just walked by me!”), and transportation woes (“What does it take to get a cab in this city?! It’s cause I’m not white isn’t it.”).
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2011
1:55 pm
“you have to change your tune based on new information you know.”
True, and I never thought he’d be able to make things as transparent as he claimed…but I don’t see that he’s even made steps to make things as transparent as he can.
George W
March 29th, 2011
1:55 pm
Granny….are you saying that voter intimidation should be permitted?
Joe Cool
March 29th, 2011
1:55 pm
What Is Ebonics? Looks Like A Typo To Me.
What I Said Must Have Been True. Were You The Last One Picked For Kickball As A Child, Or Did The Black Guy Take Your Spot On A JV/Varsity Team Growing Up? Ohhhhh Poor Georgie….
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
1:57 pm
George W
March 29th, 2011
1:55 pm
Granny….are you saying that voter intimidation should be permitted?
Do you support GOP efforts to prevent students, Seniors, homeless and the poor from voting?
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
1:57 pm
Joe Cool
All the symptoms are there…..
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 29th, 2011
1:57 pm
This is one of the WORST campaign promises that I believe he intentionally intended to break (he said a “transparent administration” just to get the votes of the lemmings).
The incidents described above re: Homeland Security are just the tip of the iceberg.
Bottom line …………… he LIED !
Obama administration under fire on transparency
March 29th, 2011
1:58 pm
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George W
March 29th, 2011
1:59 pm
Joe….actually neither. Played sports all the way through high school and played basketball for a four year school here in Georgia. I actually had many black friends. It is just funny to me that there are all of these problems going on in the black community but no one is willing to try to improve them…Instead they point fingers and make excuses.
MLK had a dream of rising up as a people and becoming strong contributors to society where all men were treated equal. Do you think this has happened or have you regressed?
Jonas
March 29th, 2011
2:00 pm
Cure the budget- you can’t vote if you don’t pay at least 1 $ of federal income taxes (this would be net of all credits) or you work for a company that pays no federal income taxes. DC would straighten up in a NY minute.
Midori
March 29th, 2011
2:02 pm
they’re coming to get you, George W — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lDCYjb8RHk
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:03 pm
Midori…..ooooooo
md
March 29th, 2011
2:03 pm
“Do you ever drive over the speedlimit, or make a turn or lane change without turning on your turn signal? If you’ve done any of those, you have broken the law. Which also means you have CHOSEN which laws you will and won’t obey.”
There is a difference between choosing to break laws and choosing to enforce laws………one can choose to break laws all day long…….but will more than likely suffer the consequences of such action if caught.
And ordinary citizens don’t make oaths to uphold the laws…………..
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 29th, 2011
2:04 pm
Headline (Associated Press): “WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama wanted to tell a hesitant America why he launched a military assault in Libya, and he wanted to describe it on his terms — limited, sensible, moral and backed by international partners with the shared goal of protecting Libyans from a ruthless despot.
Trouble is, the war he described Monday doesn’t quite match the fight the United States is in.”
Not surprising for a “Commander in Chiffon” !
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 29th, 2011
2:06 pm
I see it didn’t take long for this one to veer off track. Couldn’t find something to castigate Obama for on topic, so something else had to be brought in. Figures…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 29th, 2011
2:07 pm
Prosecutorial discretion refers to the fact that under American law, government prosecuting attorneys have nearly absolute powers. A prosecuting attorney has power on various matters including those relating to choosing whether or not to bring criminal charges, deciding the nature of charges, plea bargaining and sentence recommendation. This discretion of the prosecuting attorney is called prosecutorial discretion.
______________________
Prosecutors also have the obligation to determine if the allegations are sufficient to support the charge.
AmVet
March 29th, 2011
2:07 pm
Obama on transparency and not using lobbyists in “policy making jobs” is little more than the uninterrupted continuation of our disastrous 42nd president’s use of blatantly misleading statements that can be parsed so as to be factually correct.
Republispeak has moved across the aisle…
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2011
2:09 pm
Granny, Doggone/GA
Reading your posts today reminds me of a verse from an old Ray Stevens Song; “There are none so blind as those who will not see”
Joe Cool
March 29th, 2011
2:10 pm
“I actually had many black friends.”
The Number One Statement That Those Black Friends Kicked You To The Curb…lol. Is That Why All That Aggression?
As Far As MLK, In My Opinion I See The “Black Communty” As Having Come A Long Way. Last I Checked, They’re Are Problems In EVERY Comminty. Remember Georgie, Its People Like You, Who Have This FEAR, Not Me. I Love My America In All Its Colors/Colours.
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:11 pm
Fear no
Reality yes
Over 10% of the black community is in prison
far less that latinos or whites.
But you are right it is my fear that is causing the imprisonment. hahahaha
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
2:14 pm
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2011
2:09 pm
Granny, Doggone/GA
Reading your posts today reminds me of a verse from an old Ray Stevens Song; “There are none so blind as those who will not see”
and yours and George W remind me of that great tune from South Pacific – “You have to be carefully taught”
@@
March 29th, 2011
2:14 pm
We’ve been trying to expose his lack of transparency, but your team didn’t wanna hear it, jay.
Anyhoo…I’d like to see the administrations delay tactics removed when it comes to whether Obamacare is constitutional or not. For some strange reason, they’re holding up it’s appearance before the SCOTUS.
Time to get THAT ONE out of the way. States are gonna need to respond accordingly.
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:19 pm
Granny…..the word taught would imply that you are knowledgable enough to teach…..I dont see it.
Mick
March 29th, 2011
2:21 pm
georg
Why do you think your version of the truth is correct? More often than not, you’re not even close…
Bosch
March 29th, 2011
2:22 pm
“are you saying that voter intimidation should be permitted?”
There wasn’t any voter intimidation, if there had been, they would have prosecuted.
ragnar danneskjold
March 29th, 2011
2:22 pm
Geez, we have a nut running the government who has increased government spending (and thus decreased individual freedom) by a bazillion dollars in only three years, and talking heads are worried about his “transparency?” Sounds like the babblers are talking before they are thinking. Or fiddling while Rome burns.
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
2:22 pm
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:19 pm
Granny…..the word taught would imply that you are knowledgable enough to teach…..I dont see it.
that’s just one more thing amongst thousands…..
Joe Cool
March 29th, 2011
2:22 pm
“Over 10% of the black community is in prison
far less that latinos or whites.”
Okay….And, But The Funny Part Is That You As Though Its A Personal Concern To You.
Im Confused, Either You’re Concerned About The Numbers You Quoted, Or You Should Be Happy. From Your Previous Statements, Im Going To Go WIth The Latter.
Either Way Georgie, Im Ammused About Your Obsession Re: The Black Community.
Im Curious….Did You Have A Black Girlfriend And She Dumped You And Broke Your Heart.
Poor Georgie.
::Group HUG:::
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:22 pm
Mick….according to what? and according to who?
AmVet
March 29th, 2011
2:22 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/2011/03/28/329-cartoon-mike-luckovich-on-tax-loopholes/
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:23 pm
Joe….Ammused? Another ebonics word?
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:24 pm
Joe…..not even close.
ragnar danneskjold
March 29th, 2011
2:24 pm
All right, transparency: on the ATF gun-running to Mexico, that elevated the death level in the northern provinces, who green-lighted that idiotic plan?
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:24 pm
Joe you are right there is a big problem in the white community with white men running to date black women! hahaha
Carter
March 29th, 2011
2:25 pm
The Neo-Comms are imploding
Mick
March 29th, 2011
2:26 pm
ragnar
Why is it that the party always has to end when a dem takes control? Talk about spending bazillions, what was happening from 01 – 08? Throw in major tax cuts during two wars (off the books) and what do you get? A new recipe. When the dems take over it’s time for austerity and let’s clean up the mess that was handed over….give me a break.
Bosch
March 29th, 2011
2:27 pm
“there is a big problem in the white community with white men running to date black women! ”
Problem?
Bosch
March 29th, 2011
2:28 pm
Mick,
And they conveniently forget that we put the war costs back on the books.
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:28 pm
Bosch…..being very sarcastic!
Mick
March 29th, 2011
2:29 pm
georg
Keep digging…your true colors are showing…
Bosch
March 29th, 2011
2:29 pm
Oh George, is that what you kids call it these days?
Joe Cool
March 29th, 2011
2:29 pm
“Joe you are right there is a big problem in the white community with white men running to date black women.”
And What Would Be The Stats On That Poor Georgie? You Know 1st Hand?
Your Daddy Ran Off With One? Maybe Thats The Obsession You Have?
Left wing management
March 29th, 2011
2:29 pm
Did anyone by any chance notice buried in Obama’s speech last night an implicit conception of – dare I say it – American Exceptionalism?
The pundits were talking about whether it was possible to discern an “Obama Doctrine” coming together in the speech, but just as interesting as the implicit notion of American Exceptionalism in these words:
To brush aside America’s responsibility as a leader and -– more profoundly -– our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are. Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different. And as President, I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.
…
Born, as we are, out of a revolution by those who longed to be free, we welcome the fact that history is on the move in the Middle East and North Africa, and that young people are leading the way. Because wherever people long to be free, they will find a friend in the United States. Ultimately, it is that faith — those ideals — that are the true measure of American leadership.
AmVet
March 29th, 2011
2:29 pm
Joe, ask him to quote you the exact words that got him permanently banned from Ms. Tucker’s forum. (And trust me, to get noticed at that den of bigotry, takes some extraordinarily vile effort.)
Then go bake a cake, wash the car, do the laundry, pay some bills and come back for……..
Silence.
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
2:30 pm
Hey Rags….
You don’t capitalize your name anymore?
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:32 pm
Joe….no sir my dad was not name Mr. Obama.
Mick
March 29th, 2011
2:34 pm
bosch
I don’t mind taking some hits about dems but this mass amnesia about the sordid sack of excrement left for the USA at the end of the bush era is mindless denial. We are still sufferring through the aftershocks…I still disagree with obama getting mixed up in this libya mess that reagan should have finished 25 years ago…
Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
2:35 pm
AmVet
He’s afraid to. Paid per post, he needs Jay NOT to ban him.
It’s all about dollars and “sense”
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:38 pm
AmVet….you are so fixated on that comment….you must have loved it….not my fault Tucker is overly sensative.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2011
2:39 pm
It is currently 85F in Miami.
Joe Cool
March 29th, 2011
2:40 pm
AmVet,
We All Know Georgie For What He Is. He Has Just Yet To Accept It. Im Just Trying To Get To The Root As To Why. Something Traumatic Happened To That Fella Re: Someone Black And It Eats At Him Everyday To The Point Where On Every Topic He Has To Make A “Black” Reference. Its Okay Lil Georgie. It Must Eat At His Soul That Obama Is President. How Will You Live With Yourself Til 2016…lol
Midori
March 29th, 2011
2:41 pm
Bosch…..being very sarcastic!
no you weren’t…………..
in the “good ole days” you simply took it.
missing those, aren’t you?
Mick
March 29th, 2011
2:41 pm
taxpayer
Yes, the summer is here and thank technology for A/C..
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 29th, 2011
2:41 pm
“Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Tuesday he supported Durbin’s decision to hold the hearing on civil rights. But he also echoed King’s call for American Muslims to do more to combat efforts to radicalize members of their community.
“I am asking you to get in this fight,” Graham said. “We’re at war with an ideology.”
Thankgoodness someone in government had the guts to say it!
I D E O L O G Y !
Joe Cool
March 29th, 2011
2:43 pm
“sensative.”
Is That Ebonics??? LOL. Works Both Ways Lil Georgie.
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:46 pm
joe hahaha got me.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2011
2:47 pm
So, what’s the big deal here.
AmVet
March 29th, 2011
2:49 pm
Joe, I’m not sure that an entire team of doctors could get to the bottom of that tinted mental illness.
Fortunately most people in this country have worked really hard to move on from the demons that tormented us in the 1960 and 1970s.
And moreover, now understand well the consequences of systemic, centuries-long brutality, murder and oppression…
Harry Callahan
March 29th, 2011
2:50 pm
AmVet
March 8th, 2011
3:20 pm
“Mike, as our sage Paul notes, when your resort to unprovoked personal insults, you’ve already lost.”
Harry Callahan
March 29th, 2011
2:50 pm
AmVet
March 8th, 2011
3:39 pm
“jm, go f your sorry self. “
Harry Callahan
March 29th, 2011
2:51 pm
AmVet
March 29th, 2011
2:29 pm
“Joe, ask him to quote you the exact words that got him permanently banned from Ms. Tucker’s forum. (And trust me, to get noticed at that den of bigotry, takes some extraordinarily vile effort.)”
Was it anything like “go f your sorry self”?
ragnar danneskjold
March 29th, 2011
2:52 pm
Dear Mick @ 2:26, you raise a fair question, and reflect a widespread misunderstanding. From 2001 until 2007 (the last Republican Congress Budget), Federal spending rose from $1,862,906,000 to $2,728,702,000. I would be the last person to affirm that an increase of $865.796 billion over six years was “nothing.”
However, the estimated outlays now for FY 2011 are $3,833,861,000 – an increase of $1,105.159 billion in only four years.
Spending is where the lunacy is found. Perhaps we can agree the number prove the democrats are 50% crazier than the republicans were.
ragnar danneskjold
March 29th, 2011
2:53 pm
Dear Granny @ 2:30, good afternoon, I gave up capital letters for Lent.
Harry Callahan
March 29th, 2011
2:54 pm
“Granny Godzilla
March 29th, 2011
1:05 pm
“As good a job as President Obama continues to do, continual improvement
is a very good thing.”
Granny, I sincerely hope your kids have taken away the car keys…………..
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:54 pm
harry….no kidding haha…AMVET is just clueless.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 29th, 2011
2:55 pm
France? FRANCE? Did someone say France?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYFxGPkPTyw
getalife
March 29th, 2011
2:55 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/2011/03/25/327-cartoon-mike-luckovich-on-political-candidates/
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:55 pm
Granny…..what has Obama done that is “good”?
Mick
March 29th, 2011
2:55 pm
ragnar
You need to factor in the cost of two wars and tarp. Still, any less freedom I am experiencing these days is because of the price at the pump….
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:56 pm
getalife…..nice cartoon….yep this newspaper is truly unbiased haha.
Harry Callahan
March 29th, 2011
2:57 pm
Granny, was extending the Bush tax cuts a very good thing? Was keeping Gitmo prison open a very good thing? Was continuing the Bush wars in Iraq/Iran a very good thing? Was quadrupling the Bush deficit a very good thing? Was entering a war of choice in Libya, against people who have not attacked us, killing thousands of innocent civilians, a very good thing?
Inquiring minds want to know!!!!!!
George W
March 29th, 2011
2:58 pm
Harry…..it is the exact same things that she hated about Bush is what she loves about Obama……hmmmmm wonder why?
Harry Callahan
March 29th, 2011
2:59 pm
AmVet hasn’t posted in several minutes…must have gone to the back of the doublewide to get Mary Elizabeth’s help in coming up with something witty…
getalife
March 29th, 2011
3:00 pm
If we found out everything they are hiding, we will get all government to resign like Syria.
That’s right.
Freedom for Syria.
The movement is strong.
Harry Callahan
March 29th, 2011
3:00 pm
“Harry…..it is the exact same things that she hated about Bush is what she loves about Obama……hmmmmm wonder why?”
Because she is a simple-minded woman with an IQ well south of average who believes whatever the standard liberal talking points tell her to believe. Obviously.
Harry Callahan
March 29th, 2011
3:01 pm
Statistically, exactly half the people n America have an IQ below the median.
We call these people “Democrats”