Herman Cain: Muslims have no place in US government
So we’ve got two probable candidates for the GOP presidential nominees who claim Georgia as their base. One is Newt Gingrich.
This is the other one.
For those who can’t view the video, Herman Cain is asked whether he would be willing to appoint a Muslim as a Cabinet officer or judge.
“No. I will not,” he said. “And here’s why: There’s this creeping attempt — there’s this attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government.” According to Cain, many American Muslims “are trying to force their Sharia law onto the rest of us.”
That’s just stupid. As in not very bright. By comparison, the Sharia conspiracy crowd makes the birthers look downright sane and reasonable. It will be interesting to see who, if anyone, among the GOP mainstream steps up to repudiate such nonsense. After all, the Constitution explicitly rules out such nonsense, stating point blank that “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”
I guess Herman Cain doesn’t believe in the Constitution.
Oh, and by the way?
In a speech to Texas evangelicals, Gingrich also took up the theme over the weekend, warning that unless America is saved, his grandchildren “will live in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American.”
“a secular atheist country … dominated by radical Islamists?” Wow. That would be some trick.
It’s the kind of rhetorical collision that happens when you’re merely listing scare words needed to scare your audience and not even attempting to communicate cogent thought.
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josef nix
March 28th, 2011
4:50 pm
K’chak
@ 4:46
Can’t either one of them count change!
Smeat
March 28th, 2011
4:50 pm
i luv typos
Harry Callahan
March 28th, 2011
4:50 pm
Obama is a little boy playing at being president. It’s clear now, more than half-way through his first (and only) term that he had no plan for governing.
The economy? Well, he extended the Bush tax cuts, expanded the Bush stimulus, and quadrupled the Bush deficits. Some plan.
Unemployment? 8% when he took office, 10% and holding 26 months later. Rock-n-Roll, dude.
Foreign policy? Well, he’s still in Iraq, still in Afghanistan, still in Gitmo, and now gone into Libya with no real plan, defined objective, or exit strategy. And he’s flipflopped so many times even Hillary Clinton has thrown up her hands in exasperation.
Energy? Gasoline is $3.50/gal and climbing. Thanks a lot.
Health care? He passed an unpopular bill that’s already been determined un-Constitutional, and seems doomed to a 5-4 defeat at he Supreme Court.
But hey, he’s had lots of parties, vacations, and golf, so what the hey!!!
Thulsa Doom
March 28th, 2011
4:50 pm
Harry Callahan
March 28th, 2011
4:38 pm
Harry I will see you that and raise you one. The best story was on Michael Moore making 18 million off his last film. And then the greedy pig went back and sued to get another 3 mill from the brothers who helped produce his film. Can you say limousine liberal?
WOW
March 28th, 2011
4:50 pm
“Just sayin’.”
There’s yer sign…
tick…tick…tick…
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
4:51 pm
WOW
Not really? How so?
WOW
March 28th, 2011
4:51 pm
“Not really? How so?”
One talks, the other does.
Smeat
March 28th, 2011
4:52 pm
Everybody chant, “Nine Days Late… Nine Days Late… Nine Days Late !!”
Doggone/GA
March 28th, 2011
4:52 pm
“Childhood’s End by Arthur C. Clarke.
Good book”
Thanks!
Harry Callahan
March 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
“I’d rather be a drive-thru cashier than a phlogiston economist.”
I’m sure your parents would be happy to see you achieve either of the above.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
Those of y’all badmouthing President Obama’s venture into Libya…all I can say is that it’s rather heartening to see the opposition waving American flags and saying “thank you” rather than spitting on it and saying “d*mn you.”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
Yep, gas is climbing in price and the supply of gas is also climbing. Why by most supply/demand assessment, prices should be dropping. hmmm…wonder why not. I am sure we’ll hear lots more but none will go to the fact of Wall Street speculation causing the problem.
Dusty
March 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
Well,
I’m all for a college education. Good for the mind.
How do you know who here has been to college? Oh, I know some are brighter than others, but only graduates of the top 100 universities etc. ??
And JOSEF, of course we know about Harry Truman (one of my favorites) who finished only high school. But there are not a whole lot of Trumans. In fact, we need one right now.
If education or the lack of it is your only standard here, then go work in an admissions office. A blog permits all thought, free speech etc.
WOW
March 28th, 2011
4:55 pm
“Those of y’all badmouthing President Obama’s venture into Libya”
We’re bad mouthing his utter hypocrisy, josef. The guy is a walking contradiction.
“American flags and saying “thank you” rather than spitting on it and saying “d*mn you.””
LIke this: Obama burned in effigy
Protesters angry over the U.S. involvement in Libya take to the streets.
http://www.power1051fm.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104707&article=8345402
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
4:55 pm
WOW
The point was receiving the PhD and never having studied one of the languages fundamental to Philisophy…it’s sorta like going to a brain surgeon who never studied A&P…
Harry Callahan
March 28th, 2011
4:56 pm
” I am sure we’ll hear lots more but none will go to the fact of Wall Street speculation causing the problem.”
Well, since George W. Bush is no longer here to blame, I guess Wall Street is the next logical boogeyman.
Smeat
March 28th, 2011
4:56 pm
josef – With all due respect, ya know what they say about teachers —
“You teach best what you most need to learn.”
I’m not attacking you but I work with several PhDs and they have zero common sense and even less personality. They have nice cars but I’ll bet their personal lives are really boring.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
4:57 pm
DUSTY
Must be another tsunami on the horizon! Yep, on Harry and yep on we need one…
wrong again
March 28th, 2011
4:57 pm
I’ll take an easy one, keep it apolitical.
WOW – Rage Against the Machine was not “anti-American” – what the hay does that mean anyway? And they have been playing semi regularly again since 2007. Tom Morello, the amazingly talented lead guitarist, has guested on many artists’ albums and joined them onstage.
It would take all day to post corrections to all of the nonsense you carelessly spout, however I figured this one was simple enough.
Left wing management
March 28th, 2011
4:58 pm
[yawn .. stretch] soooooo let’s see what the cat’s dragged in … so last time we checked the world in which we lived was one in which Republicans are venomous, blood-sucking goons?
That still so?
Searching for evidence .. to the contrary ….
… still searching ….
Bosch
March 28th, 2011
4:58 pm
Doom,
Sorry for the delay — the ajc site went down.
But anywho, Intelligent Design I can get my head around better than the whole Genesis story. The main problem I’ve always had with ID is the concept of (like josef was saying) that there is something/someone (presumably “God) who started the Universe and there is a plan and stuff like that.
Since the dawn of man, things that man couldn’t understand, they brushed it aside as “God” and used that as kind of an excuse for what they couldn’t explain. I really don’t have a problem with people doing that, it’s just that I don’t. Some people need a tangible explanation for things and there is nothing wrong with that. I just happen to be someone who doesn’t. So, it’s all good with me.
WOW
March 28th, 2011
4:59 pm
“I guess Wall Street is the next logical boogeyman.’
Or not, BP and GE are in Obozo’s pocket.
Still waiting on Jay’s response as to why GE doesn’t pay taxes.
Smeat
March 28th, 2011
4:59 pm
josef – The effigy burning and protesting is only 9 days away brother.
Smeat
March 28th, 2011
4:59 pm
Obama has utterly failed in Libya.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:00 pm
smeat
No offense taken…I don’t hold PhD’s in the highest regard…and there’s a great deal of truth to that “you teach best…” The day I stop learning something new and different in my areas of “specialty” is the day I need to be put out to pasture…
Pogo
March 28th, 2011
5:01 pm
Today, the NYT’s had one of the best pieces on the the Japanese nuclear accident that I have seen written anywhere. It basically stated that while we (the world population) are willing to accept hundreds of thousands of deaths each year from car accidents, “normal” cancers, health problems caused by air and water pollution and health problems from other energy sources (such as gas explosions), the ultimate fear for many, many of us are nuclear acccidents. Even though the worst of these accidents (Chernobyl) actually killed only a handful of people, comparitively speaking. And why is it that nuclear has such a special place? Because people do not understand the fissioning of atoms and people do not understand radiation and they do not understand that living organisms on this planet have been bombarded with radiation day in and day out since the first cell evolved in the oceans millions of years ago. They do however understand a car hitting a logtruck head-on and in their minds that is understandable and that is acceptable because bluntly speaking, shite happens. But let a nuclear plant have a problem, which will statistically speaking cause far less mortalities than our normal living environment and you would think that hell had been unleashed. Ignorance and fear are terrible.
TaxPayer
March 28th, 2011
5:01 pm
A degree in Philosophy will get you a nice cushy job at the McDonalds drive thru.
I’m glad my keyboard was not in my direct line of spew.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:02 pm
“Obama has utterly failed…”
There are several hundred thousand Libyans still drawing breath who might take issue with that…
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:03 pm
“Rage Against the Machine was not “anti-American” – what the hay does that mean anyway?”
Check out the lyrics to Know Your Enemy.
“And they have been playing semi regularly again since 2007.”
They haven’t had a hit song since the 90s. They play very small crowds now.
“Tom Morello, the amazingly talented lead guitarist, has guested on many artists’ albums and joined them onstage. ”
Yeah, no kidding, but he left to join Audioslave and now does something with another band that no one listens to.
“It would take all day to post corrections to all of the nonsense you carelessly spout, however I figured this one was simple enough.”
LOL!!!!!
Rockerbabe
March 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
“I guess Herman Cain doesn’t believe in the Constitutio
Only when it suits him; he’s a bigot like most GOP’ers. The man is a smooth-talking bigot; he does make some sense once in a great while, but other than that, he is a bigot.
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
“The effigy burning and protesting is only 9 days away brother.”
It already happened.
“There are several hundred thousand Libyans still drawing breath who might take issue with that…”
They can thank France.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
BOSCH
Again, back to my man Maimonides, it isn’t brushed aside…it’s “assigned.” We assign to science, that which we know, we assign to the Alm-ghty that which we do not know…
Smeat
March 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
How ’bout that peaceful protest in London over the weekend where every window in that area got smashed?
That’s the Left !!
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:05 pm
WOW
They are thanking France, too…
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:05 pm
“Only when it suits him; he’s a bigot like most GOP’ers. The man is a smooth-talking bigot; he does make some sense once in a great while, but other than that, he is a bigot.”
Guess that makes you a racist.
Thulsa Doom
March 28th, 2011
5:07 pm
Bosch,
I would never be for the Genesis story since it obviously takes the view of Christians only even if we are in a mostly Christian nation. That would just open a can of worms and a big one. A couple of paragraphs on the intelligent design theory would be a reasonable to all I imagine. But alas the very far right people who would insist on a genesis version and the very far left who hate Christianity would never agree on anything except to agree to disagree rudely with each other.
Dusty
March 28th, 2011
5:09 pm
Well,
My daughter received a PhD in bio-chem and she never studied philosophy either. Nor is she unhappy and she still drives an old car. So what are we proving here? Nothng really.
Education should be considered essential because it is. But human beings possess the human spirit and that we should never forget, even though it is hard to do at times. Can we say the heart and reason should work together. I think so.
Doggone/GA
March 28th, 2011
5:10 pm
” would never be for the Genesis story since it obviously takes the view of Christians only even if we are in a mostly Christian nation”
That’s an interesting statement…given that Genesis was written several thousand years before Jesus was even a twinkle in God’s eye.
wrong again
March 28th, 2011
5:10 pm
WOW, your debating skills astound me. Did not you claim they broke up years ago? And what of the lyrics? Are you now the sole interpreter of what an artist’s intention or statement is?
Really, I don’t care about this band or these points. Just illustrating how reckless you are with topics of which you know little. You constantly tell people they don’t understand Islam, or Economics, or History. You constantly badger people for their qualifications to discuss a topic. Yet you so obviously suffer from diarrhea of the mouth at times.
Pray tell, share your resume; what makes you so eminently worthy of talking down to everyone on the blog on every topic?
Smeat
March 28th, 2011
5:10 pm
From ABC News:
Question by Jake Tapper to Secretary of Defense Gates, “Do you think Libya posed an actual or imminent threat to the United States?”
Answer by Gates, “No. No it was not a vital National Interest to the United States.”
Obama “The WarMonga” !!
Left wing management
March 28th, 2011
5:11 pm
Last time we checked, the world in which we live was one in which the conservative movement had been taken over by zombies and were skulking around with green blown-up faces looking for flesh to feast on. More particularly, it had morphed from being a self-righteous, annoyingly preachy, dyspeptic movement giving catechism lessons to anyone who’d listen on the evils of Nietzschean nihilism and French-inspired relativism brought on by tenured radicals in our universities to being a movement that hired the likes of truth death squad hit men like Rove, a nihilist and moral relativist if ever there was one, to do drive-by hits on this or that political enemy, all in the name of grabbing power for the people who don’t care about reality any more, because they “make” their own.
That still the world we live in?
What’s that? It’s even worse? Whaddya mean haven’t I heard that nowadays Rove passes for the reasonable one in the party?
You gotta be kidding me …
Dave R.
March 28th, 2011
5:14 pm
Mick, re: Clarence Thomas’ silence on the bench.
There was nothing funnier than Boston Legal’s take on that issue when Denny Crane and his sidekick Schoor would say something deliberately designed to get the Clarence Thomas character to utter a sound.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:15 pm
BTW “Childhood’s End…” I recommend it if that means anything…
Doggone/GA
March 28th, 2011
5:15 pm
“”I don’t think it’s a vital interest of the United States, but we clearly have an interest there,” Mr. Gates said in an appearance on the NBC News program, “Meet the Press” as part of a round of appearances on Sunday morning talk shows.
U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton discuss the latest developments in Libya, Syria and the Middle East during a taping of “Face the Nation.”
.He made a similar comment on ABC’s “This Week,” noting that Libya’s turmoil could further destabilize its neighbors Egypt and Tunisia, one of several factors that he said justified U.S. action even though Libya itself wasn’t a vital national interest.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704308904576226704261420430.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Context is important
Kamchak
March 28th, 2011
5:17 pm
Yet you so obviously suffer from diarrhea of the mouth at times.
The word you are looking for is verborrhea.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:17 pm
left wing
“…Rove, a nihilist and moral relativist…”
Yep.
Thulsa Doom
March 28th, 2011
5:19 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
“Yep, gas is climbing in price and the supply of gas is also climbing. Why by most supply/demand assessment, prices should be dropping. hmmm…wonder why not. I am sure we’ll hear lots more but none will go to the fact of Wall Street speculation causing the problem.”
Keep up,
Fox has mentioned numerous times in the past about the oil speculators and in particular several of their business analysts have remarked over the uptick rule.
Removal of the uptick rule would have a big effect on lowering speculation. I haven’t heard anything about the uptick rule lately and I don’t know if a shorter can still short without waiting for an uptick or if the uptick rule was reimposed to where you have to wait for an uptick before you can add to a short position. Curiously I’ve heard nothing about this for awhile from either Dems or Repubs.
Anybody know anything about whether or not the uptick rule on shorting was reimposed or if shorters can still just add continously to their position without waiting for an uptick?
BTW sorry to hear about your hand and the dog attack in general. Hopefully you will get well soon so that you can type and respond more quickly so that we can get back to lobbing salvos at each other. Damn shame about the dog too.
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:22 pm
“Did not you claim they broke up years ago? ”
Yep, Morrello left and the lead singer took a hiatus.
On September 13, 2000, Rage Against the Machine performed their last show before breaking up
Source: Wiki
“And what of the lyrics? Are you now the sole interpreter of what an artist’s intention or statement is?”
Zach de la Rocha has said time and again that he hates American government etc.
De la Rocha became one of the most visible champions of left-wing political causes around the world while advocating in favour of Leonard Peltier and Mumia Abu-Jamal, and supporting the Zapatista movement in Mexico
Source: Wiki
“Just illustrating how reckless you are with topics of which you know little. You constantly tell people they don’t understand Islam, or Economics, or History. You constantly badger people for their qualifications to discuss a topic. Yet you so obviously suffer from diarrhea of the mouth at times. ”
LOL!!!!!! Dude, I just schooled you above. Have fun spin, spin, spinning that one.
“Pray tell, share your resume; what makes you so eminently worthy of talking down to everyone on the blog on every topic?”
I don’t talk down to everyone. Just those who mindlessly call other people bigots, racists etc…
wrong again
March 28th, 2011
5:25 pm
WOW – resume, please. I need to see your qualifications before discussing with you further.
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:26 pm
FUN FACTS ABOUT THE MIDDLE EAST
* Despite the name, the Middle East is really off-center to the left in the East.
* Many of today’s problems in the Middle East started when one guy — I forget his name — said, “You know what religion needs? More violence!”
* The Middle East’s best period was the Islamic Golden Age a thousand years ago. They were so happy with that era that they haven’t advanced a day since.
* Part of the reason the Islamic Golden Age was so great was because of access to genies who would grant any wish. Eventually, though, the Taliban beat all the genies to death for not having the proper beard length.
* The reason the Middle East hates Israel so much is that they’d like to blame how everything sucks on the region, but then a bunch of Jews come and make a country and it’s the only one there doesn’t look like it would benefit from a technology exchange with Fred Flintstone.
* If Charlton Heston’s character from Planet of the Apes had came from the Middle East, he would have immediately recognized it as earth since it wouldn’t have looked very different from what he was used to.
* Also, at the end of the movie, he would have said, “Praise Allah, you blew it up! Take that, you infidels!”
* Americans tend to be quite confused by how people in the Middle East keep bringing up the Crusades as our knowledge about it comes primarily from the beginning of Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (and to a lesser extent, the beginning of Robin Hood: Men in Tights).
* The other thing than the Crusades that make the Middle East really mad at the West is how unfairly Indiana Jones fought that swordsman.
http://www.imao.us/index.php/2011/03/know-thy-enemy-the-middle-east/
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:27 pm
“resume, please. I need to see your qualifications before discussing with you further.”
Sure, post your e-mail address and I will send you my resume.
Thanks
Thulsa Doom
March 28th, 2011
5:27 pm
Left wing management
March 28th, 2011
5:11 pm
A seemingly eloquent blog which is entirely representative of liberal goobldeegook-some nice, perty words mixed in with some philosophy and the vanity of but a smidgling of all dressd up intellectualism- but still the same old tired, baseless, empty rhetoric predicated upon yet another mindless rant towards Karl Rove. Bravo!!! Pigeon clap!!! Now how bout some meat with them there potatoes.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:27 pm
K’Chak
verborrhea–miscreant formation…illiterate… it should be logorrhea…one may not combine Greek and Latin components…
Doggone/GA
March 28th, 2011
5:28 pm
“I don’t talk down to everyone. Just those who mindlessly call other people bigots, racists etc”
When you start believing your own “press” – it’s time to think seriously about getting professional help.
Dusty
March 28th, 2011
5:29 pm
Smeat,
I think Robert Gates is one of the finest men working for us in Washington. When he said that Libya was of no vital interest to us, he was correct. They were a small star on our horizon. But when their dictator started the massacre of protesting civilians, all the world including the UN got interested. We are part of the UN and moved rapidly to help stop the killing.
If you asked Gates if he/US minds civilians being slaughtered, he would say yes. But Libya being a vital participant in US business & politics, NO.
AmVet
March 28th, 2011
5:33 pm
WE WANNA SEE WOW’S CURRICULUM VITAE!
WE WANNA SEE WOW’S CURRICULUM VITAE!
WE WANNA SEE WOW’S CURRICULUM VITAE!
(Including all of the previous names he’s used here!)
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:34 pm
“WE WANNA SEE WOW’S CURRICULUM VITAE!’
Sure Vet, just as soon as you answer my long awaited question about what university you attended. Been waiting for that answer for weeks.
“(Including all of the previous names he’s used here!)”
DIVERT DIVERT DIVERT………
Left wing management
March 28th, 2011
5:35 pm
Thulsa Doom:
Doin my part to gobble and gook along towards a thought or two hopefully in a day’s time.
So, which part in my little science fiction narrative did you not find helpful?
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:36 pm
AmVet
Why? He’s already posted it. Can’t you read between the lines!
Dusty
March 28th, 2011
5:36 pm
Aw hush AmVet,
Today is nice day unless you got hit in the head this morning with hail. Came down my neighbor said. I slept right on through it. Come hail or five am and I don’t hear or see it!!
@@
March 28th, 2011
5:37 pm
Oh lawdy! Is this thread still up???
So Herman walks back his statement….or, as Obama says frequently….CLARIFIES his statement.
Difference being, Cain’s butter won’t melt in the left’s mouth. Obama’s, however, is “oh soooo goooood.” His, they eat up. Must be the way he articulates it. He (Obama) has the gift.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:37 pm
WOW
Well, AmVet HAS studied at least one of the languages of Western Philosophy!
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
WASHINGTON — “The Obama administration failed to set up an “effective” communications system during last year’s BP oil spill and threatened its own credibility by “severely restricting” the release of “timely, accurate information,” according to a newly released report commissioned by the U.S. Coast Guard.”
SEMPER PARATUS !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_C7m_5aZXQ
Kamchak
March 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
josef
“Verborrhea” was one of those words from the Word Power Made Easy edition thirty five years or so ago.
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
josef nix
I stated where I went to school. I wouldn’t have been hounding Vet but the guy consistently makes cracks about my universities football team so I asked him where he went.
Still waiting for him to answer that simple question.
@@
March 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
And THIS again!!??!!
(Including all of the previous names he’s used here!)
OCD ALERT!!!!!!!!!!
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:39 pm
“Well, AmVet HAS studied at least one of the languages of Western Philosophy!”
Correspondence by mail works for some I suppose.
Dusty
March 28th, 2011
5:40 pm
JOSEF,
No fair reading between the lines. We got enough stuff here with the lines. Quel garbage’ aussi.
Paul
March 28th, 2011
5:40 pm
Bosch
No, that Fox clip at
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4611119
wasn’t a joke. A conservative talk radio guy was explaining to the host why Pres Obama’s on solid constitutional ground with what he did in Libya. Guy’s points were the Founders made the pres commander in chief, Legislative does not have Executive power, pres can order military into war, if Congress doesn’t like it they can stop it (in other words, Pres doesn’t need Congress’s permission) by defunding action (said for all Kucinich’s and Paul’s words, neither has introduced a bill to stop funding) and…. ‘declare war’ does not mean ‘give permission to the Executive to go to war.” “Declare” is more like “announce.” Host brought up ‘make war’ and guest noted Madison considered ‘make war’ but tossed it as an infringement upon the Executive.
Bruno
March 28th, 2011
5:41 pm
josef–Thought you might enjoy this tribute to Django:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os2K6dmiLFU
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:43 pm
K’Chak
Yep. I use that book with my fifth graders…but, there are some etymological errors involved at places in it..
It’s like homosexual… is that homo the Latin “man” in which case it cannot refer to lesbians…and if it is the Greek same, why the Latin “sex-?”
But, hey, just trying to put my piece of paper from a “top 100″ to work!
Mick
March 28th, 2011
5:44 pm
doom
I once thought cheney was fairly competent after desert storm. Now, he represents the ultimate chicken hawk and I picture him in that costume in his sealed bunker. Five deferment cheney is the ultimate icon of hypocrisy. When it was his time to fight he had “other priorities”, tell that to all the wounded and dead from the iraq experience. He wanted that war, advocated for it and lied our way into it. He has made millions off of halliburton, war profiteering for that company is shameful. Maybe he technically donates more to charity but then he has many millions at his disposal. The man goes hunting where the birds are pre supplied for his blood lust. To me, he is one despicable, sad, human being…
Dusty
March 28th, 2011
5:45 pm
Paul,
You really know how to clear “things” up. Only took fourteen lines to do it. Now what was that you said?
Thulsa Doom
March 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
So, which part in my little science fiction narrative did you not find helpful?- Left wing management at 5:35.
All of it. Same ole sh$t different day. You rant about Karl Rove but provide not one specific example as to why he’s a bad guy. What specifically has the man done that upsets you so? Be specific sir.
Doggone/GA
March 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
“It’s like homosexual… is that homo the Latin “man” in which case it cannot refer to lesbians…and if it is the Greek same, why the Latin “sex-?” ”
I just chalk it up to being what happens when you have a mongrel language like English! You get bits and pieces of lots of other languages thrown together in ways that make no sense in the native language.
Bosch
March 28th, 2011
5:48 pm
Paul, I couldn’t understand it because someone was talking over the clip but thanks for the explain -color me shocked that a fox guy was saying something left of obama is the anti christ.
Josef, what you wrote earlier about what we assign to science and faith, I agree.
buck@gon
March 28th, 2011
5:49 pm
LEFT WING MANAGEMENT @ 12:31pm
“would make no difference because what counts is what the nation is founded on, which is the Enlightenment principle of reason which is atheistic root and branch, no matter how much Deistic God-talk is tossed out to soften that fact. It’s just window dressing.”
Alright, help us all out here LWM. Enunciate this principle of reason, please. Kindly explain to us the uh…. “genesis” of reason and its progress throughout uh….”western” society to culminate with the founding of the United States. To sweep the field, you might also illuminate us as to how you know this/these principle(s) to be exclusively atheistic.
I would hope you’d see the value in enlightening us all on such a principle of vital importance and wisdom. Truly, there is little you could contribute here that could be of such higher value to your fellow readers and bloggers, such as I and all those interested in the history of philosophy, which is “love of wisdom.”
I eagerly await the next utterance from your computer, but, as ever, I expect your abject failure to do as I ask. And in your failure, I suspect that what you say is based on your own wishing, rather than your own “reason.”
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:50 pm
Thulsa Doom
The left does this every single day: Bush, Cheney, Rove, Halliburton, Enron, etc…….
They can’t think without Rachel Madcow telling them what new catch phrases to throw out.
Paul
March 28th, 2011
5:50 pm
Hi Dusty!
Guy on Fox said Pres Obama’s okay on Libya, constitutionally-speaking.
Howzzat?
WOW
March 28th, 2011
5:51 pm
“I just chalk it up to being what happens when you have a mongrel language like English!”
That “mongrel” language is used more than any language on Earth.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
BRUNO
THANKS! Really good…Younger Boy played his own tribute to Django this weekend. I was impressed!
WOW
Nope. Not correspondence school…
DUSTY
Ya got a point there!
AmVet
March 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
Hiya, Dusty. Can’t say if it hailed here or not last night.
But it was coming down gully washer style for awhile around 5 this morning…
“He’s already posted it. Can’t you read between the lines!”
Niiice.
It’s not as if it was going to be a long read…
Bruno, that is one of my favorite albums of all time. Everything on it is first rate.
She comes curling round you like fingers…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApAdKVh_Oec&feature=related
Paul
March 28th, 2011
5:55 pm
Bosch
If that shocked you, this’ll make your head explode (you here, AmVet? (grin) EOI time!)
Here we have one of AmVet’s favorite Fox bloviators taking on all the right-wing free marketers and “you don’t like it, vote in a new CEO, corporations don’t really pay taxes” types with his comments about GE not paying any taxes.
Y’know, I notice the anti-Obama types were kinda quiet about that last clip. Wanna take bets on this clip?
http://billoreilly.com/video?chartID=610#play
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:55 pm
Doggone
And, as you know, I love our mongrel language…no other language on earth can compete with the freedom we enjoy in self-expression…can’t think of the “right word?” Then create one…
Bruno
March 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
Chewin’ on a piece of grass, walkin’ down the road:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKMA22Hd7J8
Al Morgan
March 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
Democracy is Dangerous if it is used in a Muslim Country
http://www.muslimsdebate.com/story.php?sid=1603
Dusty
March 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
Let us abstain from the bane of that old refrain of hate and disdain and return to the pain known as Cain. Yep, not Abel but CAIN.
Dinner time….Oncor beef patties tonight….
Paul
March 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
Bosch
Make that, TWO Fox commentators take on the ‘free market, corporations are all goooooood” types.
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
Incidentally, English is not used more than any language on earth…Mandarin is…and that’s factoring in those who use English as the international language of business, trade and commerce…
Thulsa Doom
March 28th, 2011
6:00 pm
Mick,
Couple points
1-Lots of pols took deferrments for school- both Dem and Republican and I may be mistaken but If I remember correctly he failed the physical anyway due to a bad knee.
2- I don’t see how he lied our way into a war. That’s a widely shared opinion by liberals not based upon fact. Just about every prominent Dem leader said Iraq had WMDs and so did 6 major intelligence agencies including our own. Seems to me the intelligence was simply wrong.
I find it difficult to believe that a man who commits so much to charity is also the same kind of guy who just loves to see 18 year olds blown up on a battlefield.That is your opinion and is not based on fact. You cannot see inside the man’s heart Mick. But his actions regarding his committments to charity do speak volumes. Lastly,the man has always been a low key, calm speaker. I’ve never seen the guy get all big talk with the bravado and such. Never seen it.
4- War profiteer- Better hold up on that one. I remember when Rumsfeld was accused of the same thing since he owned stock and such in companies such as Halliburton. Turned out that was a bunch of BS. Rumsfeld and I assume Cheney also had to divest of all holdings in companies that did business over there such as Iraq. Rumsfeld alone in an interview was talking about having to pay 20k in accounting fees to divest of companies with possible conflicts of interest in Iraq. I am assuming Cheney had to do the same thing.
4- Bloodlust in hunting. Come on Mick! How in the hell do you pre-supply birds for one’s bloodlust. That’s one of the more ridiculous things I’ve read today. You should retract that comment because its just plain ludicrous when you stop and think about it.
Left wing management
March 28th, 2011
6:00 pm
Doggone: “I just chalk it up to being what happens when you have a mongrel language like English!”
English sure is a mongrel language. Well, they all tend to be to one degree or other, but English puts them all to shame for sheer mongrelism.
Bruno
March 28th, 2011
6:01 pm
Bruno, that is one of my favorite albums of all time. Everything on it is first rate.
I’m definitely partial to the original version of “Crystal”.
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2011
6:01 pm
Solar canopy energizes Cincinnati Zoo
[T]he project consists of 6,400 photovoltaic solar collection panels assembled on more than 100 metal arrays, 15 to 18 feet high. They cover about 800 of the 1,000 parking spaces at the zoo’s main entrance. The project is designed to produce 1.56 megawatts [1.5 MILLION WATTS] of electricity, about 20% of the zoo’s annual need and enough to power 200 homes.
Not to mention a nice cool car to get into. Check this out!
Thulsa Doom
March 28th, 2011
6:02 pm
josef nix,
Could a billion and a half Chinamen be wrong?
AmVet
March 28th, 2011
6:04 pm
Paul, really great stuff. Corporations paying their fair share? Unheard of!
But buying loopholes? I love it!
…and that government of the General Motors, by the General Dynamics for the General Electrics shall not perish from the earth.
Welcome to the Corporatocracy!
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 28th, 2011
6:06 pm
Haven’t been here since last night. Have I missed anything?
josef nix
March 28th, 2011
6:07 pm
Thulsa
The Chinese are an interesting lot…
Left wing management
March 28th, 2011
6:07 pm
Thulsa: You rant about Karl Rove but provide not one specific example as to why he’s a bad guy
Oh he’s not such a bad guy. He’s just a green-faced zombie who’s groaning and lunging as he prepares to kneel down and make yet another meal on the marrow of the American nation. He’s a one-man truth hit squad raging over the steppes waging endless war against truth in the name of a movement that is petty and cheap.
The evidence?
He moved his lips once.
Bruno
March 28th, 2011
6:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRhEvjyk_dc&feature=related
getalife
March 28th, 2011
6:08 pm
A guy on fox told the truth?
Change.