The high-stakes labor fight in Wisconsin gets more intense

Wisconsin has seen a lot of political drama over the last couple of months, but in many ways the real fight there has barely begun.

Wisconsin Democrats, for example, are trying to force recall votes against eight Republican state senators, and they claim to be succeeding. They need to throw out three Republicans to regain control of the state Senate, and as the Washington Post reports, they sound pretty optimistic.

“We’re well ahead of schedule,” said Graeme Zielinski, Wisconsin Democratic Party spokesman. “I think in mid-summer, you will have a Democratic Senate.”

That would be quite a turn of events.

However, Wisconsin voters won’t have to wait until summer to make their sentiments known. As it turns out, state Justice David Prosser is up for re-election on April 5, a fact that ordinarily might not mean much. But back in December, shortly after the victory of Gov. Scott Walker, Prosser had aligned himself closely with the new governor, telling Wisconsin voters that his re-election to the court meant “protecting the conservative judicial majority and acting as a common sense complement to both the new administration and legislature.”

With Walker now down in the polls, acting as a judicial complement to the governor suddenly isn’t all that popular. It didn’t help matters when it was revealed last week that in court deliberations, Prosser had called the state’s chief justice “a total bitch” and promised to “destroy” her. He later explained that while he might have overreacted, “it was entirely warranted,” blaming his colleague for “deliberately goading people into perhaps incautious statements.”

In other words, she had it coming.

lamFinally, there’s the story of one Carlos Lam. On Feb. 19, he sent Gov. Walker an email, lauding him for his stance against unions and offering a bit of advice. Drawing upon his 18 years of experience in politics, Lam suggested that Walker stage on attack on himself, perhaps by someone using a firearm, to discredit the union opposition.

There are a lot of crazies out there, but in this case, the man advocating the staging of a felony attack on a public office is — or more accurately, was — a deputy prosecutor in Johnson County, Indiana. Lam resigned that post yesterday after initially denying, then admitting, that he had indeed sent that email.

It’s impossible to know how often such “false flag” operations are actually carried out. For example, it’s interesting to note that a couple of weeks after the Lam email was sent, while union protests continued at the Capitol, Capitol police reported finding dozens of .22 caliber hollow-point bullets secreted at three entrances to the building.

Nobody knows who put them there, or why. But these days, you can’t take anything at face value.


– Jay Bookman

636 comments Add your comment

Doggone/GA

March 25th, 2011
8:49 am

“In other words, she had it coming”

Yeah, it’s the “Why do you make me beat you?” argument of domestic abusers. So much for taking responsibility for YOUR OWN actions (or words)

jt

March 25th, 2011
8:49 am

Carlos Lam is a lawyer………..Can’t trust it.

Smells like a false flag false flag.

A counter counter operation.
Regardless, Wisconsin is a Wag-dog operation designed to keep our minds off of the on-going fleecing of the ever-dwindling population of American producers.(toilet paper, tobacco, driving taxes 5 dollar eggs coming).

IMHO.

stands for decibels

March 25th, 2011
8:49 am

You know what I like about our side? We don’t need phony sting videos and outright lies to give ‘em hell. We just “give them the truth and they think it’s hell”, as a wise man once put it.

Enjoy your remaining ten months in office, Scott.

Doggone/GA

March 25th, 2011
8:51 am

“Enjoy your remaining ten months in office, Scott”

Wouldn’t it be funny if he “pulles a Palin” and quit?

Obama

March 25th, 2011
8:51 am

Crap…looks like my bracket is officially busted. Thanks Duke!

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2011
8:52 am

While putting my Pop on the City of New Orleans Monday afternoon for his ride home, we met some Packers fans heading north….

Those folks are really charged. I mean really really charged.

The GOP has lost Wisconsin for a generation. Go cheeseheads!

Oh and shouldn’t Lam be prosecuted for his actions? Isn’t that conspiracy?

Peadawg

March 25th, 2011
8:52 am

“Wisconsin Democrats, for example, are trying to force recall votes against eight Republican state senators, and they claim to be succeeding. They need to throw out three Republicans to regain control of the state Senate, and as the Washington Post reports, they sound pretty optimistic.”

That’s actually the funniest thing I’ve heard in a while. It should be the 11 Democrats that ran away how should have the recalls votes. Y’all are too funny this morning!

Doggone/GA

March 25th, 2011
8:54 am

“Isn’t that conspiracy?”

Probably not, you can’t really have a conspiracy of one…plus no one was actually planning any such action…as far as we know right now. I could suggest someone shoot someone else, but that’s not a conspiracy to do so.

Jimmy62

March 25th, 2011
8:54 am

The real death threats people have made against him aren’t being reported by the media, so I can’t imagine why he thinks a fake attack would get reported. The media has shown it’s not willing to do it’s job, considering how much of a huge deal they made out of Palin having a target on a map in campaign literature, but then don’t seem to be bothered at all by Wisconsin union folks talking about going to war and sending actual death threats to Walker. The media won’t do it’s job, and that means Walker is at a serious disadvantage when it comes to PR. If only Jay and most of the rest of the media weren’t blatantly partisan in the stories they choose to cover and the way they present those stories to the public.

Doggone/GA

March 25th, 2011
8:55 am

“It should be the 11 Democrats that ran away how should have the recalls votes”

Well…you see…the Wisconsin voters know who is TRULY doing the people’s work for them.

ByteMe

March 25th, 2011
8:55 am

Dawg, if they were unpopular, the Republicans could mount a recall campaign to get them thrown out.

But they aren’t. You can figure it out.

ty webb

March 25th, 2011
8:56 am

“It’s impossible to know how often such “false flag” operations are actually carried out.”

kinda like those supposed racial slurs hurled at tea party protests?

Blitz Wolfer

March 25th, 2011
8:58 am

Unions are history. They will lose their cushy pay and benefits. The democrat sissies in Wisconsin that ran away from the vote deserve to be thrown out of office on their rear ends.

jm

March 25th, 2011
8:58 am

Teapot Dome.

ty webb

March 25th, 2011
8:58 am

“Dawg, if they were unpopular, the Republicans could mount a recall campaign to get them thrown out.”

they already did…it’s called an election.

ByteMe

March 25th, 2011
8:59 am

Guy Incognito

March 25th, 2011
8:59 am

How’s that investigation into the swastika at David Scott’s hq coming, and the proof of the racial language hurled at John Lewis? Sounds very similar to Lamm

AmVet

March 25th, 2011
9:00 am

Yep, I too got NCAA hammered last night – only Florida moved on for me. In Republispeak it was unfortunate that those SDSU, Duke and Wisconsin losses happened to me.

As for the neo-con work of art noted above, he must be the son of either Lee Asswater or Karl Piggy Rove.

(Tricky Dick taught them all advanced sleazebaginess very well…)

Jay

March 25th, 2011
9:00 am

Ty, maybe so. Sure can’t rule it out.

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:00 am

Lord. Dems are just confused as all get out about Wisconsin. Whatever. Dems, feel free to destroy your country. After all, that is the democratic process.

Bruno

March 25th, 2011
9:00 am

We don’t need phony sting videos and outright lies to give ‘em hell. We just “give them the truth and they think it’s hell”, as a wise man once put it.

That so, sfd?? These Democrats are facing criminal charges for this nonsense:

http://detnews.com/article/20110317/METRO02/103170380/1409/2-ex-Dem-leaders-charged-in-fake-tea-party-scheme

Somehow the Libs around this place never seem to notice the three fingers pointing back at them.

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2011
9:01 am

ty webb

March 25th, 2011
8:56 am
“It’s impossible to know how often such “false flag” operations are actually carried out.”

kinda like those supposed racial slurs hurled at tea party protests?

probably more like all those emails that “supposedly” supported Walkers stand or all those letters about the Union Mural in Maine or The Gladney Deal or the poor gal that scratched her own face or….

stands for decibels

March 25th, 2011
9:01 am

The real death threats people have made against him aren’t being reported by the media

oh no, NOBODY ANYWHERE has heard about alleged “union thuggery.” riiight.

see also this, from another very smart man, emphasis mine:

“The issue is the refusal of Memphis to be fair and honest in its dealings with its public servants, who happen to be sanitation workers. Now, we’ve got to keep attention on that. That’s always the problem with a little violence. You know what happened the other day, and the press dealt only with the window-breaking. I read the articles. They very seldom got around to mentioning the fact that one thousand, three hundred sanitation workers were on strike, and that Memphis is not being fair to them, and that Mayor Loeb is in dire need of a doctor. They didn’t get around to that.”

In the reality-based world, we know what your side does to people who get too uppity.

gotta go produce. Later, all.

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:02 am

That’s gubmint work for ya. :)

The latest census data bizarrely suggests that densely populated, largely immigrant neighborhoods — like the ones served by the often standing-room-only Flushing subway line — are virtual moonscapes, riddled with vacant buildings.

And dumbfounded officials yesterday insisted that the census missed hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers.

“It doesn’t make any sense,” Mayor Bloomberg said after new Census data showed a modest 2.1 increase in the city’s population since 2000.

“By every measure that we have, the city’s population is greater.”

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/feds_take_leave_of_their_census_V2COEhWeThWDCp2c27tbJJ#ixzz1HcFgEA9g

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:06 am

Looks like the Japan earthquake will be a buy-American incentive. Cause you won’t have any other choice…. (I’m half kidding. the parts shortages are messing up US manufacturing too. did these retards only have one supplier for these parts? were they that dumb?)

http://blogs.forbes.com/joannmuller/2011/03/24/automotive-industrys-sucker-punch/

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:06 am

Parts shortages from Japanese suppliers may reduce global automobile production by about 30 percent, research firm IHS Automotive told Bloomberg today.

WOW

March 25th, 2011
9:07 am

“Wisconsin Democrats, for example, are trying to force recall votes against eight Republican state senators, and they claim to be succeeding.’

So it was okay for them to run away from their job, leave the state and hide out for a few weeks?

“Nobody knows who put them there, or why. But these days, you can’t take anything at face value.’

What????????????

DebbieDoRight

March 25th, 2011
9:08 am

and the proof of the racial language hurled at John Lewis?

John Lewis was in the civil rights marches of the 60’s and 70’s — I’m sure he knows “racial language” when he hears it.

Blitz: Unions are history. They will lose their cushy pay and benefits

Yes that “earning a living wage” thing is soooooo anti-American! We need to get back to the days of sweat shops and child labor,

Normal

March 25th, 2011
9:10 am

Wisconsin is going to win another big one! It’s not that they tried to union bust that gets me, it’s the underhandedness of it all. Voters should be able to vote over things like that…”Just put it to a vote, stupid”.

WOW

March 25th, 2011
9:11 am

Left wingers don’t understand that even if Walker is recalled, there are going to be mass teacher layoffs. Then again, left wingers don’t understand basic economics.

Jay can spin spin spin but it won’t change the fact that something has to be done in Wisconsin. The south is a right to work region and companies see that. Harley Davidson has already stated that if something isn’t done to curb union crybabies, they will pack up and move.

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:12 am

“underhandedness ”

cause representative democracy is so underhanded. that’s why the dems had to run away to another state. cause “democracy” is only good when we’re in the majority.

Normal

March 25th, 2011
9:12 am

What do you do when they “Blitz”? Throw over their heads… :)

james

March 25th, 2011
9:13 am

Once we rid the country of all employers and taxpayers the employees will have it much better.

kayaker 71

March 25th, 2011
9:14 am

If you think that suggestions of this type are limited to the GOP, I have a good 18 yr old horse that you might want to buy. Walker has not and will not act on this suggestion. He is somehow guilty by association, eh, Bookman. Perhaps Bookman and all of the lib posters might offer suggestions as to how WI is supposed to pay for the demands of these union thugs without raising taxes on an already taxed to death state. How is Walker supposed to deal with this “encroachment into the lives of our dedicated and valued public servants?” Is he supposed to kick it down the road, as his predecessors have done so as not to deal with it? We have to come to grips with spending before we bankrupt this nation. How would you handle it? Give us a eureka moment, libs.

Normal

March 25th, 2011
9:15 am

WOW,
I know alot of Bikers who would trade their Harley in for a Kowasaki if Harly broke its Union…just sayin’. Lot’s of people out there think Unions are more American than a Harley…truly.

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2011
9:15 am

Speaking of sweatshops and child labor laws….

Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah said in a lecture posted to his YouTube channel that Congressional laws banning child labor are forbidden by the US Constitution. (Raw STory)

and

from Senate Bill 222 as proposed in the Missouri Senate (and this is a pdf). we note that the bill would repeal certain sections of law related to child labor (ALternet)

Where is the outrage?

Normal

March 25th, 2011
9:15 am

jm,
Don’t go there, it will only make you look foolish…

WOW

March 25th, 2011
9:17 am

“John Lewis was in the civil rights marches of the 60’s and 70’s — I’m sure he knows “racial language” when he hears it.’

Who gives a crap about John Lewis? The guy is a race pimp and a liar.

“Wisconsin is going to win another big one! ”

Say bye bye to a lot of teachers.

“The GOP has lost Wisconsin for a generation. Go cheeseheads!”

LOLOL!!!!!!!!

“Unions are history. They will lose their cushy pay and benefits. The democrat sissies in Wisconsin that ran away from the vote deserve to be thrown out of office on their rear ends.”

EXACTLY!!!!! Unions are like overweight crybabies who want more more more and work less less less.

“Somehow the Libs around this place never seem to notice the three fingers pointing back at them.”

They never do. Just look at Florida where an ex KKK grand wizard is running for mayor. He’s a democrat but nope, not a peep from the left wingers.

“We need to get back to the days of sweat shops and child labor,’

Gotta love left wing talking points.

BADA BING

March 25th, 2011
9:18 am

Ho Hum, country after country in the ME is having turmoil. What is the Revolution du jour?

Peadawg

March 25th, 2011
9:18 am

“it’s the underhandedness of it all. Voters should be able to vote over things like that…”Just put it to a vote, stupid”.”

So voters should also get to vote on Obamacare b/c of all the back dealings and underhandedness that went on behind the scenes?

DebbieDoRight

March 25th, 2011
9:19 am

AmVet: Yep, I too got NCAA hammered last night – only Florida moved on for me. In Republispeak it was unfortunate that those SDSU, Duke and Wisconsin losses happened to me.

You too!!?! I had SDSU over UConn and Duke in the Final 4! Good thing I don’t believe in gambling, ’cause I would’ve been broke and busted after ODU didn’t advance.

TaxPayer

March 25th, 2011
9:20 am

It doesn’t look like the Democrats that are on the Lam to me.

kayaker 71

March 25th, 2011
9:22 am

Debbie,

“Sweat shops and child labor?” You confirm my suspicions, dear lady. You’re sounding more like Bookman every day.

That's a Rich Lott

March 25th, 2011
9:23 am

You tell ‘em, WOW.

DebbieDoRight

March 25th, 2011
9:25 am

Bookman. Perhaps Bookman and all of the lib posters might offer suggestions as to how WI is supposed to pay for the demands of these union thugs without raising taxes on an already taxed to death state. How is Walker supposed to deal with this “encroachment into the lives of our dedicated and valued public servants?”

For the gazillionith time, please repeat after me, “It was about BARGAINING RIGHTS”. The union had already agreed to the proposed cuts in benefits, etc.

Paul

March 25th, 2011
9:27 am

This is a high-stakes game that isn’t over. For Republicans, it’s about maintaining power.

For Democrats, it’s about maintaining a healthy cash flow and regaining political power.

Republican efforts weren’t executed very well, but it made sense politically. Unions, public employee and otherwise, contribute overwhelmingly to Democrats. Democratic politicians support union members’ goals of retaining/expanding pay and benefits.

My take is, Republicans figured the best way to deflate Democrats’ cash cow was to go after the source. Budget balancing was an ancillary issue. Money is the milk of politics. Democrats have an ample supply, Republicans went after the source.

Yup, it ain’t over, by a long shot -

DebbieDoRight

March 25th, 2011
9:27 am

Debbie, “Sweat shops and child labor?” You confirm my suspicions, dear lady. You’re sounding more like Bookman every day.

Did you happen to catch GG’s 9:15 a.m. post? Perhaps you should read that one — might be edifying……..

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2011
9:29 am

Why wasn’t Lam fired by Scott Walker when he got the e-mail?

Was Walker trying to hide something? Or maybe saving the idea for later?

Hmmmmmmm

@@

March 25th, 2011
9:30 am

Goodbye, Wisconsin.

We don’t need phony sting videos and outright lies to give ‘em hell. We just “give them the truth and they think it’s hell”, as a wise man once put it.

stands:

You would prefer they go about their dirty business without your knowledge? Ignorance is bliss?

Interesting.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 25th, 2011
9:31 am

Jay:

If fair elections in Wisconsin can reverse what is happening there right now that’s the way it works ……. both ways.

However, if that happens the voters will just be voting some public workers into permanent layoffis or worse for the state. If that’s what they want ………… let ‘em continue to make their own poison !

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2011
9:31 am

Right now they are talking about staging, how long before these nuts actually start a strategic “failed” assignation to win the game. I hope that they investigate and prosecute anyone who suggests these types of tactics to the fullest extent of the law. Then again, the WI gov is appointing legislative family members to the WSP and one legislator is shacking up with his young mistress after she got a new job with a significant payraise over the former holder of the job, so it looks like the Republican crooks are in charge….temporarily.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 25th, 2011
9:32 am

BADA BING:

I can name that revolution in ………. three notes !

Donovan

March 25th, 2011
9:32 am

Talk about sour grapes! Whenever Democrats lose something there is the inevitable whining and threats of pay-back. You saw this exercise in futility with the Al Gore defeat and the Florida Supreme Court fiasco. You heard the name calling and threatening retribution from Air America each time George Bush won election. You experienced the 8 year campaign of obstructionism and vitriolic rhetoric from the Democrats during Bush’s administration. The simple fact of losing political share as a result of poor political management by Democrats leaves them with nothing but egg on their faces. Just like children who are embarassed by thier misdeeds their only avenue for face saving is a threat to get even or “recall” mentality. To steal a quote from the triumphant Democrats after the presidential election…”you lost”. To the losers in Wisconsin…”we won”.

@@

March 25th, 2011
9:32 am

Mrs. Godzilla:

Lam was a deputy prosecutor, not the D.A..

Do you know, for certain, that a letter wasn’t sent to his boss, the D.A.?

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:33 am

DDR 9:25 – that’s so bogus. The fight over bargaining rights was a fight over the future budget.

Getting concessions but not ending politically corrupt bargaining rights for public employee unions is like taking away the 6 bullets currently loaded in a gun, but leaving the perp sitting in a warehouse of ammo, and leaving him the gun too.

ty webb

March 25th, 2011
9:33 am

“Why wasn’t Lam fired by Scott Walker when he got the e-mail?

Was Walker trying to hide something? Or maybe saving the idea for later?

Hmmmmmmm”

granny,
wisconsin governors can’t really fire indiana public employees. stick to media matters.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 25th, 2011
9:34 am

BADA BING:

“Ho Hum, country after country in the ME is having turmoil. What is the Revolution du jour?”

Seriously, the waiter is the Muslim Brotherhood and the menu is radical Islam.

Jay

March 25th, 2011
9:35 am

Granny, Lam was a prosecutor in Indiana, not neighboring Wisconsin.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2011
9:35 am

Lam should be disbarred also.

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:35 am

As has been pointed out, a conservative of such stature as FDR admonished against the idea of public employee unions.

FDR is now too conservative for our uber-liberal Democrat party. How ironic.

kayaker 71

March 25th, 2011
9:36 am

Debbiie,

“Edifying?” I think it sounds a little stupid. If you think that we will return to sweat shops and child labor because the union thugs in WI are not getting what they want from the state, that 18 yr old horse is still for sale.

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:36 am

Who cares about Lam? The only people who should care are his constituents in Indiana.

This has nothing to do with Walker. I’m so sick of this muckraking.

USMC dawg

March 25th, 2011
9:37 am

Obama’s Cronies don’t have to pay their FAIR SHARE of Taxes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/business/economy/25tax.html?_r=1&hp

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2011
9:39 am

Was it mudracking when Gov Walker said he considered with others in his partying in creating protest disruptions when he was talking with “Koch”?

Paul

March 25th, 2011
9:39 am

I have to wonder: many here on the Left cite political contributions by Wall Street/Corporate Interests to Republicans (I won’t go into whether that’s accurate – that it’s very far off donations to Democrats). Then, the reasoning goes, the bought-and-paid-for Republican politicians pass legislation resulting in tax breaks, subsidies, etc. and other laws favorable to corporate interests. This is portrayed as an outrageous situation.

Yet…. the Wisconsin situation, or any situation involving government employees who belong to a union granted pay-bargaining rights, where union political contributions flow overwhelmingly to Democratic politicians, with resulting agreements providing pay and benefits increases to union members, is portrayed not as a corrupt alliance but as… the result of collective bargaining?!!?

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 25th, 2011
9:39 am

Headline (NY Times): “Islamist Group Is Rising Force in a New Egypt”

“The Muslim Brotherhood, once banned, is now a tacit partner with the military government that many fear will thwart fundamental changes.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/world/middleeast/25egypt.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1301026218-uEuKVpCmjFRA0cFZhuY+Mw

We have exchanged a non-poisonous snake for a poisonous one.

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:40 am

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:41 am

Kepp 9:39 – tell me what Walker did that was wrong. He answered a bogus phone call?

@@

March 25th, 2011
9:42 am

Mrs. Godzilla:

from Senate Bill 222 as proposed in the Missouri Senate (and this is a pdf). we note that the bill would repeal certain sections of law related to child labor (ALternet)

Work permit stipulations for children in the entertainment industry…motion picture productions, television or radio productions, theatrical productions, modeling productions, horse shows, rodeos and musical performances.

Can you say Hollywood?

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:42 am

Keep – FYI, its muckraking, not mudracking. And muckraking is perped by the press, not something an elected official engages in. Google it.

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2011
9:42 am

Thanks for the correction….mea culpa…

BUT

Let’s not miss the fact that the e-mail from the prosecuter in IN was sent to GOVERNOR WALKER’s office…..

And he just ignored it? His staff ignored it?

Come on, that’s some serious crap

TnGelding

March 25th, 2011
9:43 am

It’s sad that it has come down to this in America. We’re supposed to be the sane ones.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 25th, 2011
9:43 am

The political “radiation bias” at the AJC could never be more clearly heard on the “geiger counter of respectable journalism”!

(Sorry Jay: no one’s reading down below)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2011
9:43 am

jm…yep and Walker said he considered sending in thugs and he did not, not because it was “wrong” but merely because he misjudged and thought the protests and coverage would go away,

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:45 am

Keep 9:43 – sorry, not clear here. What did he DO?

Doggone/GA

March 25th, 2011
9:45 am

“He answered a bogus phone call?”

It wasn’t answering the phone call that was the problem…it was what he SAID during that phone call.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2011
9:45 am

Thanks for the attempted word lesson jm…….. still does not mean that your point is correct.

WOW

March 25th, 2011
9:45 am

OFF TOPIC ONE:

A Mission Wrapped in Confusion
By Eugene Robinson

Is it just me? Am I the only one who’s utterly confused about the rationale, goals, tactics and strategy of the U.S.-led military intervention in Libya?

Thought not.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/03/25/a_mission_wrapped_in_confusion_109341.html

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2011
9:46 am

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:35 am
As has been pointed out, a conservative of such stature as FDR admonished against the idea of public employee unions.

and has been debunked….

See FDR’s Letter To Union President Luther Steward Regarding Public Unions dated

O'Keefe it to Yourself

March 25th, 2011
9:47 am

What those other people do is muckraking.

Ray T. Heon

March 25th, 2011
9:49 am

The mission in Libya is to increase the 1.41 million dollar multiplier.

WOW

March 25th, 2011
9:49 am

“Do you know, for certain, that a letter wasn’t sent to his boss, the D.A.?”

No, @@, she doesn’t. This is what’s so funny about left wingers.

“Lam should be disbarred also.”

You tell em, Skittles!

“Let’s not miss the fact that the e-mail from the prosecuter in IN was sent to GOVERNOR WALKER’s office…..”

Maybe you should go make a citizens arrest, Granny.

“It wasn’t answering the phone call that was the problem…it was what he SAID during that phone call.”

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwe!

Where's My Party?

March 25th, 2011
9:50 am

Donovan at 9:32……excellent, excellent post. It has been my contention all along that the day Al Gore was declared the loser was the day the liberal and Democrat Party lost their collective crap. That was the day the liberal and Democrat Party punched their vitrolic hate buttons to the “on” position. And we have been going downhill ever since.

And don’t get me wrong, the far right is no better and certainly not part of the solution.

Guy Incognito

March 25th, 2011
9:51 am

Deb

Love the, “Oh he MUST be telling the truth because he’s old and black” defense. I’m sure he’s NEVER lied

BTW, fixed your typo……..John Lewis was in the civil rights marches of the 60’s and 70’s — I’m sure he thinks he hears “racial language” when there is none

kayaker 71

March 25th, 2011
9:52 am

Debbie, Granny, Bookman,

Again, put yourself in Walker’s place and pretend that you would like to be fiscally responsible (that might be quite a stretch, however) with the Wisconsin taxpayer’s money. Pretend that you have just won an election by a fair margin and you ran on a platform of fiscal responsibility and were primarily elected to clean up the financial fiasco that those before you had failed to confront. Aside from raising taxes,(the ultimate liberal solution to any financial problem) how would you handle WI’s financial shortfall? Would you attempt to balance the budget or would you just kick it down the road to the next governor while the shortfall grows and you fall further into debt? Walker is trying to face reality here. I have yet to see a solid, well thought out idea about how to save money coming from WI democrats. The three of you seem to be in good company. Bookman doesn’t have a clue. All he does is publish scare letters from some GOP idiot and try to make us believe that Walker is somehow complicit because he is a Republican.

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:52 am

GG 9:46 – sure thing. here you go. the actual text. get your facts straight

All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.

Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable.

ButtHead

March 25th, 2011
9:53 am

The problem is that the unions have NEVER been for the children’s educational benefit, they are for members only benefit, they could care less if anybody gets an education…
Last time I looked the GOP has made gains in Wisconsin, and the democrats have run away from their jobs. Seems to me that the WI. Democrats don’t understand that election have consequences… What a bunch of sore losers, maybe the senate democrats will run away from DC.
Funny how in a state with the biggest short fall in the budget, biggest teacher union, with public funded retirement, public funded medical, and all the GOP wants is them to pay ½ of what the private sector pays, and this is call union busting by the democrats. As our fearless leader Obozo said, we all have to share in the pain; I don’t remember Obozo saying everybody but the unions…

Prosser, Party of None

March 25th, 2011
9:54 am

Well she IS.

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2011
9:54 am

And of course the rest of the story on child labor laws….

Bill 222 also….

[294.021. No child under fourteen years of age shall be employed or permitted to work at any occupation at any time; except as provided in this chapter.].

those brackets mean this is a section of law whose repeal is proposed, and thus a child under 14 would no longer be limited in being able to be employed.

and

[294.024. A child may not be employed during the regular school term unless the child has been issued a work certificate or a work permit pursuant to the provisions of this chapter.]

Thus a child could now be employed during the school term without a work permit.

and

A child under 16 can work in motels/hotels – and without restrictions on hours – now that should raise some eyebrows.

and

No work permits would be required for those 15 or 16.

and

The authority of the Director of the Division of Labor Standards to oversee employers of children is eliminated.

Can you say complete story?

Whaheema

March 25th, 2011
9:55 am

Recall walker, don’t recall walker. It does not matter. We can lo longer afford the massive cost of public emplyee unions . That reality is emerging and won’t be denied . Doubt that many folks will be ok with being taxed into poverty to support cushy benefits for government workers.

Guy Incognito

March 25th, 2011
9:55 am

WOW

Eugene Robinson?……….wasn’t he a db in the nfl a few years ago?

carlosgvv

March 25th, 2011
9:55 am

Maybe the Wisconsin voters are finally waking up and realizing that Big Business and their Republican servants are determined to take them back to the days of 12 hour work days, 6 day work weeks, no insurance, no vacations, no sick leave, no workman’s comp and no paid holidays.

Doggone/GA

March 25th, 2011
9:55 am

Granny G – check around for the stories on Maine’s Governor and child labor laws too

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:56 am

And FDR knew about modern technology and investment options, he never, ever would have structured Social Security such as it exists today. And if LBJ had known how bad Medicare and Medicaid would blow up, he would have changed how they work too.

Democrats are not the party of change. They’re the party of: STATUS QUO.

Bosch

March 25th, 2011
9:56 am

Looks like this Lam guy went to the Karl Rove School of Political Trickery. Glad the doofus was exposed for the POS he is. In my opinion the douche should be disbarred.

George W

March 25th, 2011
9:56 am

GOD BLESS CARLOS LAM!!!!

poison pen

March 25th, 2011
9:57 am

Granny, you claimed that Walker and his staff ignored the e-mail. please tell us your source as to this knowledge?

Doggone/GA

March 25th, 2011
9:57 am

“Recall walker, don’t recall walker. It does not matter. We can lo longer afford the massive cost of public emplyee unions”

So WI can’t afford the cost of labor unions, so they want to increase how much they pay into their medical care and make changes to the pay rates. Got it. Then how can they afford to give something like 138 MILLION in tax breaks to corporations?

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:57 am

Granny, care to address the letter you brought up? Or, rather, I’ll accept you’ve conceded the argument.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2011
9:57 am

k71..you may want to review Walker’s rejection of stim funds and also the “emergency session” to pass tax credits to business which also happened to match the amount of the “deficit”.