In Georgia, housing woes a long-term drag on economy
As we claw our way out of this recession, it’s easy to forget where it all started: housing. And while other parts of the economy have begun to recover and show signs of health, the housing situation is actually getting worse by some key standards. The Atlanta Federal Reserve has some interesting data and — oh goody! — charts to explain where we are at the moment.
For example, the number of American households who owe more on their mortgage than the house is worth — known as negative equity — continues to grow in many markets, including Georgia. In fact, in the fourth quarter of 2010, Georgia had the sixth highest rate of negative equity in the nation. Three out of 10 Georgia homeowners owed more in loans on their property than their property was worth, which is a remarkable number.
In the metro Atlanta area, the ratio is even higher. More than one out of three homeowners in this market are “underwater” on their mortgage, making them prime candidates for eventual default or foreclosure. Those who do not default will experience long-term “houselock,” meaning they’re stuck in those homes because they’re unable to sell them for enough to pay off the mortgage. Every monthly mortgage payment they make is another payment in a bad investment, but they make them anyway because that investment is also a home.
That is not a problem that is going away soon, with “soon” defined as anytime in the next five or maybe 10 years. It will continue to be a drag on housing prices and on consumer spending. New-home construction — once the driving force in the metro Atlanta economy — will continue to be more of a boutique business than a thriving industry.
That’s what happens when a bubble pops. That’s what happens when the music stops. Sooner or later, things that are too good to be true always stop being true.
– Jay Bookman
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Normal
March 23rd, 2011
12:26 pm
As I was walking into the men’s room, preparing to sit astride my favorite throne, I slipped and fell. As I was laying there semi-conscience, I had a vision into the future. I KNOW NOW THAT ONE DAY, ONE DAY…there will be Kindle like devices in EVERY BATHROOM STALL IN THE WORLD!! What a future!
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:27 pm
AmVet
March 23rd, 2011
11:38 am
“Your Republican neighbors have gotten decimated.
I’d list tons of facts to show you, but to what end?”-AmVet
AmVet,
Curiously enough I didn’t think you would provide any facts. How utterly predictable. But you go on thinking that the people that got hurt in the subprime crisis were Republicans if it makes you feel better. Everyone else knows different- those thousands of people that descended on east point to get assistance know better. They were the ones that got devastated thanks to Mr. Bawney Frank and Chris Dodd. BTW where oh where is Franklin Raines today?
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:27 pm
Hillary now says Kaddafy doesn’t have to go. Anyone on the left care to take a stab at what Obama is trying to accomplish in attacking a country that didn’t attack us?
Mark T
March 23rd, 2011
12:27 pm
This is what the Left/Unions are trying to do to this country!!!
former official of one of the country’s most-powerful unions, SEIU, has a secret plan to “destabilize” the country.
The plan is designed to destroy JP Morgan, nuke the stock market, and weaken Wall Street’s grip on power, thus creating the conditions necessary for a redistribution of wealth and a change in government.
The former SEIU official, Stephen Lerner, spoke in a closed session at a Pace University forum last weekend.
The Blaze procured what appears to be a tape of Lerner’s remarks. Many Americans will undoubtely sympathize with and support them. Still, the “destabilization” plan is startling in its specificity, especially coming so close on the heels of the financial crisis.
Lerner said that unions and community organizations are, for all intents and purposes, dead. The only way to achieve their goals, therefore–the redistribution of wealth and the return of “$17 trillion” stolen from the middle class by Wall Street–is to “destabilize the country.”
Lerner’s plan is to organize a mass, coordinated “strike” on mortgage, student loan, and local government debt payments–thus bringing the banks to the edge of insolvency and forcing them to renegotiate the terms of the loans. This destabilization and turmoil, Lerner hopes, will also crash the stock market, isolating the banking class and allowing for a transfer of power.
Lerner’s plan starts by attacking JP Morgan Chase in early May, with demonstrations on Wall Street, protests at the annual shareholder meeting, and then calls for a coordinated mortgage strike.
Lerner also says explicitly that, although the attack will benefit labor unions, it cannot be seen as being organized by them. It must therefore be run by community organizations.
Lerner was ousted from SEIU last November, reportedly for spending millions of the union’s dollars trying to pursue a plan like the one he details here. It is not clear what, if any, power and influence he currently wields. His main message–that Wall Street won the financial crisis, that inequality in this country is hitting record levels, and that there appears to be no other way to stop the trend–will almost certainly resonate.
A transcript of Lerner’s full reported remarks is below, courtesy of The Blaze. We have heard the tape, but we have not independently verified that the voice is Lerner’s. You can listen to the tape here.
Here are the key remarks:
Unions are almost dead. We cannot survive doing what we do but the simple fact of the matter is community organizations are almost dead also. And if you think about what we need to do it may give us some direction which is essentially what the folks that are in charge – the big banks and everything – what they want is stability.
There are actually extraordinary things we could do right now to start to destabilize the folks that are in power and start to rebuild a movement.
For example, 10% of homeowners are underwater right their home they are paying more for it then its worth 10% of those people are in strategic default, meaning they are refusing to pay but they are staying in their home that’s totally spontaneous they figured out it takes a year to kick me out of my home because foreclosure is backed up
If you could double that number you would you could put banks at the edge of insolvency again.
Students have a trillion dollar debt
We have an entire economy that is built on debt and banks so the question would be what would happen if we organized homeowners in mass to do a mortgage strike if we get half a million people to agree it would literally cause a new finical crisis for the banks not for us we would be doing quite well we wouldn’t be paying anything…
We have to think much more creatively. The key thing… What does the other side fear the most – they fear disruption. They fear uncertainty. Every article about Europe says in they rioted in Greece the markets went down
The folks that control this country care about one thing how the stock market goes what the bond market does how the bonuses goes. We have a very simple strategy:
How do we bring down the stock market
How do we bring down their bonuses
How do we interfere with there ability to be rich…
So a bunch of us around the country think who would be a really good company to hate we decided that would be JP Morgan Chase and so we are going to roll out over the next couple of months what would hopefully be an exciting campaign about JP Morgan Chase that is really about challenge the power of Wall Street.
And so what we are looking at is the first week in May can we get enough people together starting now to really have an week of action in New York I don’t want to give any details because I don’t know if there are any police agents in the room.
The goal would be that we will roll out of New York the first week of May. We will connect three ideas
that we are not broke there is plenty of money
they have the money – we need to get it back
and that they are using Bloomberg and other people in government as the vehicle to try and destroy us
And so we need to take on those folks at the same time. And that we will start here we are going to look at a week of civil disobedience – direct action all over the city. Then roll into the JP Morgan shareholder meeting which they moved out of New York because I guess they were afraid because of Columbus.
There is going to be a ten state mobilization to try and shut down that meeting and then looking at bank shareholder meetings around the country and try and create some moments like Madison except where we are on offense instead of defense
Where we have brave and heroic battles challenging the power of the giant corporations. We hope to inspire a much bigger movement about redistributing wealth and power in the country and that labor can’t do itself that community groups can’t do themselves but maybe we can work something new and different that can be brave enough and daring and nimble enough to do that kind of thing.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:27 pm
Thulsa Doom
I’m still waiting on Vet’s “doozy.”
Midori
March 23rd, 2011
12:29 pm
The valorous Wow will soon disappear. At least for awhile. Only to reappear with some other goofy moniker. And then actually try to con himself into believing that nobody will recognize the exact same claptrap. And he will once again swear he’s never been here before.
this can’t be emphasized often enough……..
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:29 pm
Al Qaida commander backs Libyan rebels in message
Oh goody, our own president is on the side of the folks who brought us 911.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:29 pm
“this can’t be emphasized often enough……..’
tick…tick…tick…
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 23rd, 2011
12:30 pm
I just wish one of them could tell me how it makes sense for 47% of the people to vote in whatever freebies they want when they have no skin in the game.
It makes sense because of the “extend the Bush tax cuts to save the economy” crap. Had Bush’s tax sale been allowed to expire as it was written, the 47% that pay no FEDERAL INCOME TAX would have been lowered back down to around 35% which is where it was before Bush decided to lower more people’s tax burdens to zero. I guess Jan 2013 is the next opportunity lower that 47%. I’ll be waiting to see how many people campaign for it.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:31 pm
“I’ll be waiting to see how many people campaign for it.’
I can’t wait to see how Obama campaigns on the back of Bush policies.
poison pen
March 23rd, 2011
12:31 pm
WOW, you will probably have to wait a long time. lol
Kamchak
March 23rd, 2011
12:33 pm
To copy/paste without giving credit is plagiarizing.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:34 pm
“you will probably have to wait a long time.”
Gitmo- still open
2 wars – ongoing
new war – just getting started
patriot act extended – you betcha
Bush tax cuts extended – you betcha
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:36 pm
“To copy/paste without giving credit is plagiarizing.’
plagiarize – Take (the work or an idea of someone else) and pass it off as one’s own.
Guess Kammy has a different definition than Webster.
JB
March 23rd, 2011
12:36 pm
I can speak first hand. I own a building material supply company. In the last two years, I’ve laid off 90 of my previous 208 employees. I’m still not making money. My suppliers aren’t making money. My cost of doing business keeps going up. Health insurance and diesel fuel to name two. Every 50 cents diesel goes up cost me 5,000.00 per month. Our split on health care has gone from 250,000 per year 3 years ago to 450,000 with LESS coverage. Washington, this IS THE REAL WORLD OUT HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Midori
March 23rd, 2011
12:36 pm
You just can’t make this stuff up:
Won’t You Help James O’Keefe Pay off His ‘Major Credit Card Debt’
Conservative prankster James O’Keefe, the artless cad behind heavily edited video “stings” on NPR, ACORN, and other enemies of the state, has been paying for all of his work on his and his buddies’ credit cards. Apparently it costs a lot of money to carry a camera and act like a jackass — $50,000, as it happens! So won’t you be a peach and give him $50,000, or perhaps even $1 million? This is James O’Keefe’s plea in an email to supporters.
O’Keefe explains that he and his friends have “hit a wall” after “running up major credit card debt” to finance their projects. He writes that it “cost us about $50,000 when all is said and done to produce the NPR video,” which is incredible, and “If you help us raise over $50,000, it will go toward our next video — after we pay off our credits cards, of course.” What other information could you possibly want from this notorious liar?
And then he asks for a million dollars: “If you help us pass $100,000 — we can do two new videos… And if by some chance, we raise $1,000,000 — we could expose 20 disturbing cases of government abuse and corruption. But, all I’m worried about is $50,000 right now.”
http://gawker.com/#!5784877
I think I’ll send him some used facial tissue……
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:37 pm
“I think I’ll send him some used facial tissue……”
tick…tick….tick…..
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:37 pm
JB
The left would describe you as “evil rich white man.”
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
March 23rd, 2011
12:39 pm
Bush tax cuts extended – you betcha
Yep, but you fail to mention how the GOP caved to the extension of unemployment benefits just to get the extra tax cuts for their benefactors. Seems like both rich and poor made out on that deal.
AmVet
March 23rd, 2011
12:40 pm
Keep waiting, name changer. I like watching you impatient little fellas squirm for a few hours.
When the time is right, you’ll be the first to know. (or will you? BWA!)
And they you can play stupid some more…
Thulsa, you know better.
But if it makes you feel good (and safer) thinking only the poor among Those People in East Point were affected by the Bush orchestrated economic meltdown, gawd bless you.
Maybe your neighbors all moved to India!
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:40 pm
Did a Baptist do this? Nope.
Did a Methodist do this? Nope.
Did a Catholic do this? Nope
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, who coulda done it?
1 dead, 50 injured in Jerusalem bus bombing
Bomb inside bag explodes next to Egged bus 74 opposite Binyanei Ha’uma in central Jerusalem; 3 seriously injured, 5 in moderate condition.
Source: Jerusalem Post
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:41 pm
DebbieDoRight
March 23rd, 2011
11:37 am
Doom: Penalizing people or doing things the right way is the last thing we want to do.
“Four Words. Inherited Income. Paris Hilton.”- DebbieDoRight
Debbie,
One thing we may all agree on, cons and libs, is that the woman is a superficial twit. But the money she will inherit is money that was earned and taxes paid on the income by her parents- who did the right things. They took risks, invested wisely, built an empire that employs thousands of people etc. The thousands of jobs they have created worldwide in constructing their hotels, maintenancing them,insuring them, redecorating them, etc. and staffing them and the tens of millions of dollars if not billions that that corporation has paid in hotel taxes, restaurant and liquor taxes, real estate taxes, payroll taxes, and finally taxes on the earnings is staggering. I do not begrudge the Hilton’s passing on money they earned to the twit.
I’m not sure what your point is. Are you saying that you and I are entitled to the twit’s money because it was earned by her parents and not her? If so it doesn’t matter. Taxes were already paid on her parent’s earnings and as I’ve pointed out the pure economic impact of their hotels is payment enough through the vast array of taxes that their hotels already pay. They and their hotels have paid vast sums of money in taxes that you and I can’t even fathom ever paying.
Midori
March 23rd, 2011
12:41 pm
tock…..tock….tock……
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:41 pm
“Keep waiting, name changer. I like watching you impatient little fellas squirm for a few hours.”
Can’t wait, Vet. But please remember, if you post my IP address or any of my personal info, you can face up to 5 years in prison.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:42 pm
“And they you can play stupid some more…”
What was that?
JB
March 23rd, 2011
12:43 pm
WOW……This is real world also….3 years ago I paid 1.8 mil to the feds as a S corp. This past year, I paid 240,000……………..I’m not alone. We have no money NOT BECAUSE OF THE TAX %RATES, BUT BECAUSE OF NO PROFIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:43 pm
“When the time is right, you’ll be the first to know. (or will you? BWA!)’
Like I said, I’ll be waiting! Can’t wait to see what tricks you have up your sleeves!!!!! Oh, and remember, it better be legal.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:45 pm
AmVet
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that you’ll either call me LA, Communist AJC or WhoDat? Either way, I’ve already been called all three things.
Kamchak
March 23rd, 2011
12:46 pm
JB
I was a trim carpenter in the new home biz for thirty years.
It was pretty evident in 2005-2006 that the end was near.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:47 pm
The left should be happy. Glen Beck is leaving FOX NEWS.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:47 pm
AmVet @ 12:40 pm,
AmVet the funniest thing about you is just how delusional you really are. This blog conversation with you? It makes me realize just how crazy you really are.
You go on thinking what you think. I’ll go on knowing what I know.
Mick
March 23rd, 2011
12:47 pm
**The left would describe you as “evil rich white man.”**
No, that would be you describing the left, big difference..
AmVet
March 23rd, 2011
12:48 pm
Midori @12:29, and others, note that he no longer tries to even deny it.
His Vulcan cloaking powers are not up to snuff!
Like a rat in a trap…
“…if you post my IP address or any of my personal info…”
Don’t worry, paranoid one, the Muslims hiding under your bed are gonna get you and Scout first…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 23rd, 2011
12:49 pm
Headline: “Senate to hold hearings on Muslims’ rights”
“Just weeks after House Republicans held a hearing looking at the dangers of radical Muslims in the U.S., Senate Democrats are countering with a hearing of their own, scheduled for after Congress returns from a 10-day vacation, to examine Muslims’ civil rights.”
Hummmmmmm …………….. I hope the include Muslim women’s civil rights.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:49 pm
Kamchak was a trim carpenter for 30 years? Who woulda thunk it.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:49 pm
Thulsa Doom
What Vet wrote sounds like a personal threat to me. He says he has a “doozy” to throw out to me which is either code for personal information or my IP address. I know @@ was hacked by a left winger a while back so I wouldn’t be surprised if Vet tried to do the same thing.
One thing you have to understand about the left. They are about as crazy as crazy gets.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:50 pm
“Don’t worry, paranoid one, the Muslims hiding under your bed are gonna get you and Scout first…’
Not paranoid, Vet. I just don’t take threats likely. Especially ones that are into crazy conspiracy theories.
JB
March 23rd, 2011
12:50 pm
Kamchak, most subs I know ( or knew) have fallen off the face of the earth. It’s really sad. And the ones left have had their rates beat down to nothing and can’t make a living. Illegals will trim a house for 2,000. Pay help, insurance, tools expenses and try and do that…….That’s not the mantra of the left ” doing jobs other Americans won’t. They pay no taxes, No insurance, and 10 of them live in one house….It ain’t right……
Midori
March 23rd, 2011
12:51 pm
The left should be happy. Glen Beck is leaving FOX NEWS.
why?
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:51 pm
“Midori @12:29, and others, note that he no longer tries to even deny it.”
You must have missed my conversation with Kamchack a week ago. Jay must be ok with it because he’s allowed me to post here for two weeks now and I’ve yet to “implode” as you like to call it.
AmVet
March 23rd, 2011
12:51 pm
Poor Thulsa, he desperately wants to believe that the untermenschen in East Point are the sole (get it? sole/soul?) victims.
While the 65% or so of the non-untermenschen homeowners in Nevada aren’t.
It must be dark up there…
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:52 pm
“why’
His ratings are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down. I haven’t watched that guys show in over a year. Too many conspiracy theories.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:52 pm
Good grief. AmVet has deluded himself into thinking he makes conservatives squirm? Now THAT is funny!
Midori
March 23rd, 2011
12:53 pm
No, I’m asking why the left should care?
The “left” is not the ones watching Fox News, or that crackpot……..
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:53 pm
“Good grief. AmVet has deluded himself into thinking he makes conservatives squirm? Now THAT is funny!”
Thulsa, AmVet is like that guy from Independence Day. The crazy pilot who believed that he was abducted by aliens.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:54 pm
“No, I’m asking why the left should care?”
Because many on the left talk about him non-stop.
“The “left” is not the ones watching Fox News, or that crackpot……..’
Uh huh.
Normal
March 23rd, 2011
12:55 pm
Glenn Beck? Too many conspiracy theories? Yeah,
Like the one Jesus is coming back real soon….too funny.
Maybe he can find a gig on SNL…
Normal
March 23rd, 2011
12:56 pm
The crazy pilot who believed that he was abducted by aliens.
WOW, but he had been….
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:56 pm
“Maybe he can find a gig on SNL”
Well, Sarah Palin did give the show it’s highest ratings in over 10 years when she did the show.
DebbieDoRight
March 23rd, 2011
12:56 pm
Doom – Basically I was commenting on what you said about the rich hiding money BUT still making America productive (or something like that, tried to find the link but couldn’t). I brought up inheritance taxes that SHOULD be paid by a Paris Hilton because neither she nor her parents “earned”their money by investments, etc. They (and she will) inherited their money from their parents parent and haven’t earned a dime of it. They (and she will) inherited a BOARD who makes all financial decisions, employs people, builds the buildings, and generally does all the work. They (and she will) only reap the benefits of the board’s work.
Clinton set the inheritance tax at rate that helped to pay down the federal deficit and Bush set it back to Reagan rates…………..
Basically I forgot what my point was in bringing her up. Sorry. I’ll try to look for the link.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:56 pm
“WOW, but he had been….’
HA!!!! True!
AmVet
March 23rd, 2011
12:56 pm
Niiice.
Now the tin-foiled-hat name changer thinks the bogeyman is hacking his IP address. Oooooh! Is it he second gunman on the grassy knoll? Or Elvis and the Aliens?
Whats that line from Animal House? “Fat, dumb and drunk is no way to go through life, son.”
The guy who screws relentlessly with pretty much everybody here is now tasting his own medicine.
Karma, it can be a real bitch…
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:57 pm
“Basically I forgot what my point was”
Seems to happen a lot with the left.
Normal
March 23rd, 2011
12:57 pm
Sarah will do anything for a buck…
Kamchak
March 23rd, 2011
12:57 pm
JB
Been that way since St. Ronnie of the Ray-Gun’s amnesty of 1986.
Illegals were sleeping in the unfinished apartments on pieces of cardboard in Gwinnett Co. and eating the pedigreed dogs in the neighborhood in 1987.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:58 pm
“Now the tin-foiled-hat name changer thinks the bogeyman is hacking his IP address. Oooooh! Is it he second gunman on the grassy knoll? Or Elvis and the Aliens?”
Nope, I was just informing you of what happens to people who hack other folks computers etc.
“Whats that line from Animal House? “Fat, dumb and drunk is no way to go through life, son.””
What’s Animal House?
“The guy who screws relentlessly with pretty much everybody here is now tasting his own medicine.”
Huh?
“Karma, it can be a real bitch…”
Huh?
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:58 pm
“Sarah will do anything for a buck…”
So will Bill and Hillary.
ConnedConsCon
March 23rd, 2011
12:59 pm
I was a trim carpenter in the new home biz for thirty years.
It was pretty evident in 2005-2006 that the end was near.
When they tell you that trim is not really necessary in order to sell the house, it is getting bad.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
12:59 pm
“Illegals were sleeping in the unfinished apartments on pieces of cardboard in Gwinnett Co. and eating the pedigreed dogs in the neighborhood in 1987.”
They must have been livin da life.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:59 pm
AmVet,
People got hurt all over. Not just poor black people here in Georgia. But as a percentage overall I would without a doubt say that Dems were disproportionately hurt more no matter what their race. That’s due to lower education levels, lower affluence, etc. And certainly some Repubs in middle and upper middle income communities had these loans but by and large the loans were concentrated in lower income and lower middle class areas throughout the country. Surely you realize this simple fact.
Next you’re probably going to try and say that the more affluent, higher educated suburbanite folks vote Dem and that its the poor and lower middle class people who vote Republican.
Also, just telling you about our local experience here in Georgia. The demographics don’t lie sport.
Rightwing Troll
March 23rd, 2011
12:59 pm
“Can’t wait, Vet. But please remember, if you post my IP address or any of my personal info, you can face up to 5 years in prison…”
Ummm… BS… anything I can glean from your posts here is in the public domain, and you’ve already posted your IP address (in a sense) by simply showing up here. You obviously need a job and/or a hobby.
JB
March 23rd, 2011
12:59 pm
Sarah Palin not qualified to be President…… But Obama is? Being a senator for 2 years and being absent half the time and voting present and not one single piece of legislation passed.
Yea, right….The guy is a smooth talking con artist. Nothing else.
Rightwing Troll
March 23rd, 2011
1:00 pm
“That’s due to lower education levels, lower affluence, etc. ”
Trailer parks are full of “conservatives”…
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:00 pm
“Ummm… BS… anything I can glean from your posts here is in the public domain, and you’ve already posted your IP address (in a sense) by simply showing up here. You obviously need a job and/or a hobby.”
The AJC has my IP address, troll. Oh, I have a job.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:01 pm
“Trailer parks are full of “conservatives”…’
Ghettos are full of democrats.
ConnedConsCon
March 23rd, 2011
1:01 pm
WOW equates “intellectual” with “ivy league school attendance” for some odd reason. I would prefer you use mild soap and warm water to wash my feet, WOW. I have sensitive skin.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:01 pm
“The guy is a smooth talking con artist. ‘
His teleprompter is.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:02 pm
“I would prefer you use mild soap and warm water to wash my feet, WOW. I have sensitive skin.”
HAHAHAHA
AmVet
March 23rd, 2011
1:02 pm
Illegals were sleeping in the unfinished apartments on pieces of cardboard in Gwinnett Co. and eating the pedigreed dogs in the neighborhood in 1987.
And the fat lazy Marietta and Roswell suburbanites in their gas guzzling Suburbans were picking them up by the droves, non-stop in front of the Home Depot to mow their lawns, landscape, fix things, etc.
They loved screwing their fellow working class Americans that way…
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:03 pm
“And the fat lazy Marietta and Roswell suburbanites in their gas guzzling Suburbans were picking them up by the droves, non-stop in front of the Home Depot to mow their lawns, landscape, fix things, etc.”
Huh, I didn’t know John F. Kerry was a fat lazy Mariatta type?
@@
March 23rd, 2011
1:04 pm
WOW:
I’m not on the left but…
Hillary now says Kaddafy doesn’t have to go. Anyone on the left care to take a stab at what Obama is trying to accomplish in attacking a country that didn’t attack us?
A divided Libya, much like Palestine?
Kissinger mentioned it last night. I’d already read about the possibility elsewhere.
Egypt would assume influence over the eastern half.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
1:04 pm
Am I deceived? Is the most liberal member of the blog community kamchak saying things that are anti-immigrant and blaming Reagan for letting immigrants in? Sure sounds like immigrant bashing. WOW!
Ragnar Danneskjöld
March 23rd, 2011
1:05 pm
Dear @@ @ 11:33, you have inadvertently revealed your true identity: Dagny Taggart.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:05 pm
“A divided Libya, much like Palestine?’
What was that the left was saying about how we shouldn’t nation build?
RB from Gwinnett
March 23rd, 2011
1:06 pm
Southern C,
You forgot the part about not including the under $250K which was the libs attempt at more class warfare. And magically, all you libs supported that tax increase because it doesn’t affect you. Why should you care if the evil rich people have to put more money in the pot for you to siphon off as you see fit with more social programs. No skin off your backs, right?
Mind if I have your credit card to do a little shopping. I promise it’ll be for the children.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:06 pm
Thulsa Doom
If Kam was really a carpenter I’m sure he used his fair share of illegals to help unload that truck load of 2×4’s off the back of his truck.
DebbieDoRight
March 23rd, 2011
1:06 pm
Seems to happen a lot with the left.
Hey unlike your “multitasking” on different blogs……….oh forget it. Why should I bother, what’s the point of trying? Never mind Wow.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:07 pm
“Hey unlike your “multitasking” on different blogs……….oh forget it. Why should I bother, what’s the point of trying? Never mind Wow.”
So you had to write out what you didn’t want to write? LOL
@@
March 23rd, 2011
1:08 pm
Huh?
Trailer parks are full of “conservatives”…
There are three…maybe four trailer parks in Clayton County. Predominantly Latino.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:08 pm
LOL!!! Garth Brooks has come to Obama’s rescue!!!!!!!!! I love pop-country music with all the wannabe cowboys and cowgirls.
Kamchak
March 23rd, 2011
1:08 pm
If Kam was really a carpenter I’m sure he used his fair share of illegals to help unload that truck load of 2×4’s off the back of his truck.
Wasn’t a framer.
Never hired an IA.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 23rd, 2011
1:10 pm
Since it was probably past your bedtime when I posted a reply to you late last night, here is the sequence again for your edification:
A)
1811/1801 – 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
11:32 pm
“HEADLINE DETROIT—The population of Detroit has fallen back 100 years.”
This is what liberalism does to a city.
B)
Midori
March 22nd, 2011
11:48 pm
“The population of the US has fallen back 100 years.
This is what Conservatism does to a country.”
C)
1811/1801 – 0311/0317
March 23rd, 2011
12:02 am
To Midori @ 11:48:
Sorry to have to burst your bubble regarding the U.S. vs. Detroit. You need to do your research before you go public – you’re usually smarter than that ……. maybe it’s late and you’re tired.
“Over the past 100 years the US has seen the largest population growth in its history, fuelled by the baby boomers of the postwar years. And its trajectory is to continue to put on numbers steadily through this century,”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/13/usa.topstories3
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:10 pm
“Never hired an IA.”
Uh huh.
Nice Guy
March 23rd, 2011
1:10 pm
Stands – “I have to say, this is the ONLY online forum I’ve ever participated in, where people think it’s odd to present charts and graphs to make a point.”
There’s your sign.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:10 pm
1811/1801 – 0311/0317
Dude, it’s Midori you’re talking about here. LOL
ConnedConsCon
March 23rd, 2011
1:11 pm
Kamchak uses 2×4s for trim! WOW, that must be trim fit for a king’s abode. The scale alone would mean the rooms are five times the average size.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 23rd, 2011
1:11 pm
Sorry: the above is for Ms. Midori
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:11 pm
“Never hired an IA.”
There’s your sign.
JB
March 23rd, 2011
1:11 pm
Obama getting a pass from the press, as usual….His party is not happy with him. Is Hillary calling the shots? This guy is weak as Army soup…….
Jefferson
March 23rd, 2011
1:11 pm
Raise interest rates and housing will get back to reality.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:11 pm
ConnedConsCon
You’re not a carpenter are you?
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
1:11 pm
Rightwing Troll
March 23rd, 2011
1:00 pm
“That’s due to lower education levels, lower affluence, etc. ”
Trailer parks are full of “conservatives”…
Rightwing troll,
At least our trailer park conservatives- poor as they are- don’t form dangerous gangs that carjack, sell drugs openly on the street corner in front of their house- how stupid is that?, do home invasions, smash and grabs at local malls, and brazenly murder each other with AK-47s in drug turf gang wars. And at least these people have enough sense of decency and pride that you can’t just go down there and round them up on a bus like cattle and pay them $5 to go and vote Republican. And the reality is that many trailer park white people vote Democrat. You’re just too full of blather to freaking know that.
Jack
March 23rd, 2011
1:12 pm
“Creative measures” prompted and resulted in people buying houses they couldn’t afford. And they knew that when they bought them. Honest and productive people are paying now for that liberal uselessness.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:12 pm
“Kamchak uses 2×4s for trim! ”
Your words, not mine.
ConnedConsCon
March 23rd, 2011
1:12 pm
Never hired an IA
I don’t blame you. Those Iowans may know farming but they don’t know anything about trim work.
Dave R.
March 23rd, 2011
1:12 pm
“Dude I provided the link — all you had to do was point, click and READ. What else did you want me to do? Read it to you too?”
Debbie, I DEBUNKED the falsehoods on your lying link. Maybe YOU should try reading sometime.
WOW
March 23rd, 2011
1:13 pm
“And the reality is that many trailer park white people vote Democrat. ‘
That’s because they actually think Obama will buy their gas for them.
ConnedConsCon
March 23rd, 2011
1:13 pm
Your words, not mine.
From your claims, not mine.
JB
March 23rd, 2011
1:13 pm
Army Doctor doing the physicals said of Obama and Hillary, ” only one of them had a set”.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 23rd, 2011
1:13 pm
Thulsa Doom :
I hope you stay with us permanently. You are really making them squirm.