Herman Cain drops ‘friendly’ warning to American Muslims
In an interview with Christianity Today, GOP presidential candidate and metro Atlanta resident Herman Cain was asked about race and discrimination:
“Do people still discriminate in some small ways against certain people because of their color or their religion? Yes. But it is nowhere near where it was 235 years ago.
Whether we will ever reach that utopian level of all men created equal and all men being treated equal, I don’t know. You know, the journey in life is to strive to be better and better every day, to strive to be more Christ-like. Whether or not any of us get to the level of Christ himself, I doubt it, because we are human. You have secret thoughts, and only God and Christ knows those secret thoughts. And they may not be Christ-like.”
That’s well put. Later, however, the interviewer asks Cain about a speech he gave last month at a church in Milner, Ga., in which Cain recounted his successful battle against cancer. (A video of the speech is below; the section in question begins at the 5:00 minute mark). When he learned that his surgeon would be a Dr. Abdallah, Cain said, he initially balked. But when the physician’s assistant reassured him that “Don’t worry, he’s a (Lebanese) Christian,” Cain reports that he “felt a whole lot better.”
The interviewer uses that incident to inquire about the appropriate role for Muslims in this country:
“The role of Muslims in American society is for them to be allowed to practice their religion freely, which is part of our First Amendment. The role of Muslims in America is not to convert the rest of us to the Muslim religion. That I resent. Because we are a Judeo-Christian nation, from the fact that 85 percent of us are self-described Christians, or evangelicals, or practicing the Jewish faith. Eighty-five percent. One percent of the practicing religious believers in this country are Muslim.
And so I push back and reject them trying to convert the rest of us. And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion, you know, they have an objective to convert all infidels or kill them. Now, I know that there are some peaceful Muslims who don’t go around preaching or practicing that. Well, unfortunately, we can’t sit back and tolerate the radical ones simply because we know that there are some of them who don’t believe in that aspect of the Muslim religion. So their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely, just like we should be allowed to practice our religion freely, and not try to convert the rest of us.”
“Their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely … and not try to convert the rest of us.”
In other words, they better not get too pushy, right Mr. Cain? They better recognize their place. They can be equal, but … not THAT equal.
The remarks are particularly interesting in the context of the rest of the interview, in which Cain makes a pitch for political support from the Christian evangelical community. (Cain himself is an associate pastor at Antioch Baptist Church North in Atlanta). One of the defining characteristics of the evangelical movement is the importance it places on, well, evangelizing. You know, trying to convert the non-believing and thus save their souls. Like many in the Muslim faith, they see it as part of their religious duty.
Apparently that’s OK for Christians in this country, but not for others.
– Jay Bookman
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TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
3:42 pm
I wonder about those of faith that seem to have so little faith in the sustainability of their own faith.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
3:44 pm
oh good grief. yawn.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
3:47 pm
That’s it, Jay???????? Geez, Obama has broken lots of his own promises, vindicated Bush and is now in the process of nation building and you’re going after Herman Cain?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
3:48 pm
“You know, trying to convert the non-believing and thus save their souls. Like many in the Muslim faith, they see it as part of their religious duty.”
Yeah, but we’re not flying large aircraft into NY skyscrapers.
wow
March 22nd, 2011
3:48 pm
is that the best you can do…what a non-stroy….10th grade journalism at best
jm
March 22nd, 2011
3:50 pm
This will thrill the lefties. These debates have gotten so boring, and lack such substance, and I feel like even Jay’s posts are starting to lack substance, or maybe the same issues are just on recycle mode, that I think it may be time to reach for the dimmer switch on this thing.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
3:50 pm
I gots me a genuine little brother.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
3:51 pm
“Apparently that’s OK for Christians in this country, but not for others.”
Jay, do you talk to many Christians around the country?
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
3:51 pm
Seems to me the words from Herman Cain echo those of many the conservative Christian. By the way, where’s Scout. Something just made me wonder about his absence.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
3:52 pm
Not another one! I knew he was irrational about Obama, and now this. Go back to selling pizza, Mr. Cain! And your radio show is terrible.
stands for decibels
March 22nd, 2011
3:52 pm
Because we are a Judeo-Christian nation
ok, he’s officially in the Bozo Bin.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
3:52 pm
You can smell the fear the left has for this man if he becomes a viable candidate in 2012. They’ll have nothing of substance on which to attack him, and they can’t pull the race card unless it is to call him an Uncle Tom.
So they begin to manufacture poutrage over the slightest comments. We in the profession call it “nit-picking”.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
3:53 pm
Bye, jm. And, Yawn!
stands for decibels
March 22nd, 2011
3:53 pm
your radio show is terrible.
let’s be fair. his pizza sucks, too.
Race Card
March 22nd, 2011
3:54 pm
Dave R pulled the race card.
Race Card
March 22nd, 2011
3:54 pm
Does Dave R make pizzas too.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
3:55 pm
List of Obama’s broken promises:
1: Close Gitmo
2: End the wars.
3: End the Bush Tax Cuts.
4: End the Patriot Act.
5: Never go to war without being attacked first.
6: Never nation build.
7: Create jobs.
But please, continue the attacks on Herman Cain.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
3:55 pm
Oh, my…oh, well, thank G-d for the Muslims in America…gives us Jews a break…
Joe Cool
March 22nd, 2011
3:55 pm
“Yes. But it is nowhere near where it was 235 years ago”
???
Did He Really Just Say That???
HDB
March 22nd, 2011
3:56 pm
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
3:52 pm
Calling Herman Cain an Uncle Tom would be an insult to Uncle Toms…..
Deep Throat
March 22nd, 2011
3:56 pm
I don’t see anything wrong with what Herman said, it’s like Jay can think or believe what he wants, but I will not believe the puke he preaches.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
3:56 pm
“Yeah, but we’re not flying large aircraft into NY skyscrapers.”
Neither are American Muslims, WOW. I mean if we’re going to start judging entire religions by the actions of a few, then Muslim clergy weren’t sexually abusing hundreds if not thousands of children, while others in the clergy covered up for them. That was Catholics. Are all Catholics now to be suspected of child abuse? Or how about the Methodist Church leader arrested just last month here in the Atlanta area on charges of possessing and distributing child pornography? Does that tell us something about Methodists in general?
I would argue not. Apparently you would take the other side of the argument. Unless you would apply that broad brush in your hand solely to Muslims….
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
3:57 pm
WOW
Christians aren’t flying planes into skyscrapers? Has anybody told Sooth yet?
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
3:57 pm
Who is this guy anyway? The only time I’ve heard his name was on this blog.
Man, what a crazy day — time to sit back and enjoy some Ben & Jerry’s Chunky Monkey.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
3:58 pm
Regarding the pizza, I used to go to the original Godfather’s pizza back in Omaha Neb. back in the ’70s, and it was EXCELLENT!
Something was lost in the translation to corporate.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
3:58 pm
This will thrill the lefties.
Sarah Shahi thrills me.
Herman Cain?
No.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
3:59 pm
HDB
Sorry, but Mr. Cain has as much a right as anyone else to hold whatever opinion he so chooses and set it forth afforded the public podia…that does not make him an Uncle Tom…black folks have just as much a right (and an obligation, I’d say) as anybody else to be off the wall…equality. Ain’t it grand?
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:00 pm
This blog is like watching two people beat each other with those styrofoam bats, as if they’re on one of those contest TV shows.
Meanwhile, off screen, the Capitol and White House are burning down.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:00 pm
“Neither are American Muslims, WOW. I mean if we’re going to start judging entire religions by the actions of a few, then Muslim clergy weren’t sexually abusing hundreds if not thousands of children, while others in the clergy covered up for them. ”
Muslims flew planes into the twin towers, Jay. So sorry if that offends you but they did. Muslims weren’t sexually abusing children? Nah, instead they rape them and cut off their heads while their Imams cover it up.
“That was Catholics. Are all Catholics now to be suspected of child abuse?”
I’m not Catholic, Jay. Take it up with the Vatican.
“Or how about the Methodist Church leader arrested just last month here in the Atlanta area on charges of possessing and distributing child pornography?’
LOL!!!! You found ONE Methodist church leader with a record!!!!! One!!!!! LOL
“Does that tell us something about Methodists in general?”
Yaaaaaaaaaaaawn, wake me up when the Methodists are flying planes into buildings.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:00 pm
jay…..we are a Christian country. Easy answer.
Deep Throat
March 22nd, 2011
4:00 pm
WOW , you forgot his promise to govern more transparently.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 22nd, 2011
4:00 pm
Well, I got nothing against Muslims. Long as they’re good Christians. Baptist or Holiness, I hope.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:00 pm
“Calling Herman Cain an Uncle Tom would be an insult to Uncle Toms…..’
Good ole HDB!!!!
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
4:01 pm
Think I’ll sit this one out, unless y’all get a good sidebar going.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:01 pm
“WOW , you forgot his promise to govern more transparently.”
AH yes, that one as well.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:01 pm
No George W, we’re not.
We’re a country with a strong Christian majority, but that’s different.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:01 pm
Far more interesting. Vewy vewy interesting.
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Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:01 pm
“Because we are a Judeo-Christian nation, from the fact that 85 percent of us are self-described Christians, or evangelicals…”
“One of the defining characteristics of the evangelical movement is the importance it places on, well, evangelizing…”
Do as I preach, not as I do.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:02 pm
“we are a Christian country. Easy answer.”
Funny, I don’t remember seeing that in the Constitution. Better not tell the Jews that.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:02 pm
stands for decibels
March 22nd, 2011
3:53 pm
I never tried his pizza.
Dave R, Viable? You must want Obama to get reelected.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:02 pm
JAY
It’s the Ragpickers, I tell you, but do you believe me…noooo…you’ll see, just wait…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:02 pm
“We’re a country with a strong Christian majority, but that’s different.”
Don’t know about that, Jay. The majority of Americans are too busy watching Snookie and Kim Kardasian.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:02 pm
My currency has a typo on it. I knew it was supposed to say: In Allah We Trust.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:03 pm
jay….you need to read again and do your research on the founding fathers. Great work here joker.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:03 pm
Paul,
Well duh, the evangelicals would be evangelicals if they didn’t evangelize. See now?
cosby smith
March 22nd, 2011
4:03 pm
Cain hit the nail on the head..sorry, but no matter how you cut it, a cult, as I refuse to call islam a religion, that teaches “kill those who do not believe as we do” is not a religion. Since 9/11 I have not seen nor heard much outcry from the muslim’s folks regarding the jahidist or radical muslims. Until I see or hear differently, then you have to call it like you see it. Maybe charles Manson was a religion, Perhaps Mr Wright that taught Obama, all all religious fanitics, I do not know, but they all, under the guise of religion, spew hatred and violence thereby making them no more than a cult. Allow them to operate puts all in danger…wake up and smell the roses before you are pushing them up!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:03 pm
“I mean if we’re going to start judging entire religions by the actions of a few”
You just did: Apparently that’s OK for Christians in this country, but not for others.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:04 pm
WOW
“2: End the wars.”
No matter how much information people provide refuting that, you keep posting it.
One more time: when did Candidate Obama say he’d end the war in Afghanistan?
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:04 pm
jm, Allah is merely the Arabic word for God.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:04 pm
Maybe that should be professed Christians as opposed to practicing ones.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:05 pm
“One more time: when did Candidate Obama say he’d end the war in Afghanistan?”
When did Candidate Obama say we should nation build in Libya?
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:05 pm
jay….please read the appendix of the constitution.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:06 pm
“jm, Allah is merely the Arabic word for God.”
And they scream ALLAHU AKBAR when they detonate bombs.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:06 pm
WOW….When did Obama say he would have Gitmo closed? Or have us all of the way out of Iraq?
Lies Lies Lies
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:06 pm
Jay 4:04 – oh I’m just kidding. I have no dog in this fight and could care less. I’m not worried about our religious freedoms getting trampled on anytime soon. Now, the financial viability of the Republic. That be a diffrunt issue.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:06 pm
BOSCH
Well, EOI Jew Boy chiming in here, but, yes, we are a Christian nation in much the same fashion that Turkey is a Muslim nation…a secular Republic, yes…face it, I get off at Christmas and Easter, not Hannukah and Passover…does it bother me? Not in the least…but, yes, when I have to take personal days off from my government job to celebrate my holidays and my Christian co-workers don’t, it does come to mind….
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:06 pm
WOW
“I’m not Catholic, Jay. Take it up with the Vatican.”
Hint for discussion: when a poster makes a point, refuting with “It’s all about me” is kinda lacking…..
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:07 pm
“Dave R, Viable?”
Yeah, Gelding. He meets all the prerequisites from the Harry Reid side of the equation; he’s clean, articulate, black . . .
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:07 pm
George W
Yep, and the left continues to divert divert divert…….
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
4:07 pm
When did Candidate Obama say we should nation build in Libya?
Divert, divert, divert.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:07 pm
“Hint for discussion: when a poster makes a point, refuting with “It’s all about me” is kinda lacking….”
Sorta like you, huh.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:07 pm
Kamchak
tick….tick…..tick…..
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:08 pm
Jay…..when you do you daily prayer to Obama….do you face Mecca?
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:08 pm
” You must want Obama to get reelected.”
And no, not in a million years.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:08 pm
If our Founding Fathers had wanted to declare this a Christian country, they could have done so in the Constitution, George W.
They did not. To the contrary, they insisted that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States,”:and guaranteed freedom of religion to all, not to all Christians.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:09 pm
fun times
Portuguese Government May Collapse Tomorrow, JPMorgan Says (1)
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The PIIGS are getting cooked….. Portugal Italy Ireland Greece and Spain.
Soon that slogan will have to be revised to: US PIIGS are getting cooked.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:09 pm
“when a poster makes a point, refuting with “It’s all about me” is kinda lacking”
Jay didn’t have a point other than to divert attention from the fact that Muslims are responsible for most terrorist attacks worldwide.
Again, I’m not Catholic and I can’t answer for the Catholic Church.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:10 pm
Jay…..agreed……ever wonder what premise the Bill of Rights were founded. You should really read the bible….there are some really easy to read versions ou there now.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:10 pm
“Again, I’m not Catholic and I can’t answer for the Catholic Church.”
But you’ll be glad to pass judgement on all Muslims…..
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:10 pm
“jm, Allah is merely the Arabic word for God.”
Not in some places, certain provinces of Indonesia and Malaysia at point here, where non Muslims may not use it in their services…
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:11 pm
Muslims are so repressed in this country. Whatsoever shall we do? This really needs the attention of Congress and the President.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:11 pm
Hey Bosch!
“Funny, I don’t remember seeing that in the Constitution. Better not tell the Jews that.”
Aren’t Jews kinda like Christians? They just don’t know it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ZMj5RksbE&feature=related
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:11 pm
“But you’ll be glad to pass judgement on all Muslims…..”
I call em like I see em, Bosch.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:12 pm
Bosch….read the Koran first and then comment back. I have read it 4 times. It is actually not a very long book. Read it and then ask yourself if you feel we are unfairly catagorizing all Muslims.
Joe Cool
March 22nd, 2011
4:12 pm
“You can smell the fear the left has for this man if he becomes a viable candidate in 2012. ”
Dude Please….Bristol Palin Would Get More Votes
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:12 pm
“Aren’t Jews kinda like Christians? They just don’t know it?”
Yeah, something like that, right josef?
And, josef, no, we aren’t a Christian nation…..so there.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:13 pm
I found another typo.
“hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
harvey
March 22nd, 2011
4:13 pm
How incredibly simplistic you are. The muslims don’t want just to convert people from Christianity–they want to kill them. i don’t know any evangelical who will kill someone simply because they are another faith. if you want to go through life blindly go ahead. It is a shame you spread your ignorance in an opinion column like this. About discrimination–it used to be alright to be discriminating–it meant you had taste, standards, ethics, and discriminated against those who didn’t. Hey, I make no excuses for discriminating against the ignorant, tasteless and criminal.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:13 pm
Dems…..attack attack attack….Palin and Cain attack attack attack…..what are you guys so scared of?
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:13 pm
George W.,
I can comment whenever I want, thanks — I don’t need permission from you, only our host.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:13 pm
The appendix to the Constitution, George W?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:14 pm
“I can comment whenever I want, thanks — I don’t need permission from you, only our host.
YOU TELL EM BOSCH!!!!!! LOL
Michael Sanak
March 22nd, 2011
4:14 pm
Jay,
Sorry to tell you this, but, Herman is right. Everyone in this country has a right topractice their religion but they do NOT have the right to push their religion on any one else. Having had the dubious pleasure of living in a muslim country (Saudi Arabia) I have seen the religion up close and personal in the heart and what you have heard about the religion is only a cleaned up version of what really takes place. Once you have seen a woman stoned to death for not wearing her abyah you want to stay as far away from that religion as you can. I HAVE seen it and I do not want anything to do with it. I have several friends that are practicing muslims and have no problem with them, just as I have no issues with most christians- only the zealots. Unfortunately today, more radicalization is occuring in the muslim influence sphere and it is coming our way-look at Europe to se what we can expect soon.
Deep Throat
March 22nd, 2011
4:14 pm
When will Jay post a new article about McCain wanting to implement a no fly zone over Libya.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:14 pm
“One more time: when did Candidate Obama say he’d end the war in Afghanistan?”
When did Candidate Obama say we should nation build in Libya”
WOW, that’s not even a half-hearted attempt at avoidance.
Please, try to put a bit more thought into it next time, ‘k?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:15 pm
“WOW, that’s not even a half-hearted attempt at avoidance.”
Really?
White House: Helping install ‘a democratic system’ is goal in Libya
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/151191-white-house-suggests-regime-change-is-goal-of-libya-mission?page=1
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:16 pm
Bosch
Yes, we are. We are not a Christian Repbulic, though, and that’s the point we need to keep in mind…
And I’m with Paul…Kinky’s my kind of Jew!
Joe Cool
March 22nd, 2011
4:16 pm
“i don’t know any evangelical who will kill someone simply because they are another faith”
Harvey,
Do you know ANY Muslims “will kill someone simply because they are another faith”??
Better Yet, Do You Even Know Any Muslims?
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:17 pm
“Dude Please….Bristol Palin Would Get More Votes”
You obviously know nothing about Mr. Cain, nor the nominating process.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:17 pm
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:07 pm
Good point. There is hope for you.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:17 pm
PAUL, BOSCH
A Christian is a Jew with an insurance policy!
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:17 pm
” I HAVE seen it and I do not want anything to do with it.”
But have you seen it here, in the States? I’m thinking the answer to that is probably no, so your point is kind of irrelevant.
“I have several friends that are practicing muslims and have no problem with them,”
So why categorize all Muslims as bad if you know the opposite to be different
“just as I have no issues with most christians- only the zealots.”
Yeap. I hate fundamentalism anywhere.
harvey
March 22nd, 2011
4:17 pm
Joe, yes I do know some muslims. I hope I don’t know any jihadist muslims however, and you must know those are the one to which I made reference. To ignore the obvious to make a dumb argument is specious.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
March 22nd, 2011
4:18 pm
Good afternoon all. Had Mr. Cain made such comments about leftists, I would have stood to applaud. Herman is the only candidate I have supported financially in the past 10 years. I think he is now my first choice for 2012. Chairman Ann tweeted that he is her second choice, behind only the estimable Chris Christie. Mr. Cain may be able to undo most of the destruction the leftist Obama administration has wrought against this country – healthcare, energy policy, financial regulation.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:18 pm
Really Michael? “They do NOT have the right to push their religion on any one else?”
So the Jehovah’s Witnesses should be thrown in jail? We should round up all those clean-cut Mormon kids on their bicycles and ship them off to prison? Is that what you’re saying?
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:18 pm
Jay….when the framers mention “year of our Lord” what do you feel they are talking about?
Andy Pence
March 22nd, 2011
4:18 pm
Funny how Jay Bookman chose to leave out the whole “or kill them” part when they are unable to convert you to Muslim.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:18 pm
josef,
“Yes, we are. ”
No, we are not, so there. (I can do this all night, you know)
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:18 pm
I don’t think Jesus would claim us.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:18 pm
Jay….I actually married a JW….she converted a year after our marriage….Very strange religion or shall I say cult.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:19 pm
WOW
“Yep, and the left continues to divert divert divert…….”
Did you really think people wouldn’t notice you posted that just two minutes after you gave us this?:
“One more time: when did Candidate Obama say he’d end the war in Afghanistan?”
“When did Candidate Obama say we should nation build in Libya”
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:19 pm
“The appendix to the Constitution, George W?”
The laws of the US?
http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Reference_Shelf/Laws.shtml
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:19 pm
Oh and josef at 4:17 —
False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)
March 22nd, 2011
4:19 pm
Herman is a great storyteller and should stick to talk radio. He lacks credible presidential bearing – just another blowhard that likes to pander to those that cling to thier fear of “others”.
Where's My Party?
March 22nd, 2011
4:19 pm
Eh….nothing to see here. Move along.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:19 pm
“So the Jehovah’s Witnesses should be thrown in jail?”
If they try to knock over my trash cans again, yes.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:20 pm
Michael Sanak…
Yes they do have a right to “push” their religion if that is what their faith dictates…they don’t have the right to legislate it, but they can push til judgment day…and that’s a good thing…
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:20 pm
WOW……HAHAHAHAHAHA
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:20 pm
“Did you really think people wouldn’t notice you posted that just two minutes after you gave us this?:”
Paul, you must be under the false impression that I care what you think.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:20 pm
Seriously, who is this Cain guy? And more importantly, does he have a brother named Abel?
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:20 pm
“Jay….when the framers mention “year of our Lord” what do you feel they are talking about?”
Personally, I think they’re talking about a system to measure time, George W. If they were trying to declare this a Christian country, that’s a darn peculiar way to go about it.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
March 22nd, 2011
4:20 pm
Minor correction – Mr. Cain is the only candidate I supported directly…. I also contributed to the PACs of Mr. Demint and Mr. Gingrich.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:20 pm
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:18 pm
Not the Father, Son and Holy Ghost!
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:21 pm
Jay 4:18 – sure they have the right to market their religion. But let’s just say they don’t have the right to kill the infidels that don’t convert, as their religion says they should do to those that don’t convert.
Tommy Maddox
March 22nd, 2011
4:21 pm
“In other words, they better not get too pushy, right Mr. Cain?”
Nope: in other words – don’t push Sharia on us.
Simple.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:21 pm
“He lacks credible presidential bearing’
So does Obama and yet he won.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
4:22 pm
Is it true that it was illegal for a Jew to hold public office in New Hampshire until 1877?
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:22 pm
Can’t wait for that Caliphate thing to come along any day now.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:22 pm
” But let’s just say they don’t have the right to kill the infidels that don’t convert, as their religion says they should do to those that don’t convert.”
Now, I’m no Constitutional scholar like Dave R., but I’m pretty sure we have laws in place that don’t let people kill other people because they won’t convert to their religion.
Isn’t that right Dave R.?
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:22 pm
jm
“to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God ”
The Founding Fathers were Druids?!!?
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:23 pm
Jay……I am all for the freedom of religion for ALL religions. We are guarenteed that right. However when a religion promotes and defends violence, hate and superiority…..they cannot wonder why so many people are cautious towards that religion.
Where's My Party?
March 22nd, 2011
4:23 pm
False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)
March 22nd, 2011
4:19 pm
“Obama is a great speaker and should stick to community organizing. He lacks credible presidential bearing – just another blowhard that likes to pander to those that cling to their fear of “others”.”
Fixed your typos.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:23 pm
BOSCH
“No, we are not, so there. (I can do this all night, you know”
And you’ll still be wrong, so there squared…
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:23 pm
“The Founding Fathers were Druids?!!?”
Sweet!! You know Paul, I converted to Neo-Paganism, right? Well, Episcopalian too still, but I have dual religionship.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
4:23 pm
I think the founding fathers would have preached abortion if they could see some of their Christian offspring today.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:23 pm
“Now, I’m no Constitutional scholar like Dave R., but I’m pretty sure we have laws in place that don’t let people kill other people because they won’t convert to their religion. ”
Doesn’t stop Muslims.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
josef,
No, I am not wrong, so there.
USMC dawg
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
Jay Bookman is a Racist!
Sounds like Jay Bookman’s hidden RACIST agenda is starting to show itself.
Jay’s twisted world view of criticizing Black people is most evident. Leave black people alone, Jay. They have had to overcome a tremendous amount of racism.
Jay must be racist because he is criticizing Herman Cain who is black.
Isn’t that how the Leftwing Liberal (non)Logic madness goes???
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
Sharia.
OhMyGoodness they’re going to impose Sharia!!!!
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
Paul 4:22 – who knew?
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
Interesting article Jay…http://churchvstate.blogspot.com/2007/10/our-founders-were-they-christian.html
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
“So the Jehovah’s Witnesses should be thrown in jail? ”
No!
They’re too much fun to mess with when they come to my front door . . .
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
“Doesn’t stop Muslims.”
In this country, it certainly does.
Joe Cool
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
HARV
“and you must know those are the one to which I made reference. ”
I know of what you type, not what you meant. I hope you wouldnt also know any extreme evangelist “who will kill someone”.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
Jay….can you please define SHaria law?
Pogo
March 22nd, 2011
4:25 pm
OK, Jay doesn’t like Christians but he ESPECIALLY doesn’t like this black man who is a conservative speaking such anti-progressive language. The fact that this gentleman is black and not a democratic party sycophant is what really bothers Jay and those that think as he does. Jay is just being a good little progressive and he is giving his editors what he thinks they want and he is probably right. The left in this country are using Islam to further their battle against the hated white Christian conservatives who to them, are the ultimate enemy or “the great satan” if you will. I wish that these very same progressives could live under Sharia law. I don’t think they would be quite so infactuated with it if they did.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:26 pm
I had some JW’s come to my door….I invited them in…..then I pointed to the American Flag on a mantle and ask them to recite the “Pledge of Allegiance” IT WAS GREAT!
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:26 pm
Well, if Nazi’s, Southern Baptists, Commies, and the KKK are legal in this country, I guess the Muslims should be allowed to hang out here too….
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:26 pm
“I hope you wouldnt also know any extreme evangelist “who will kill someone”.”
Sadly enough, I’ve know two of those.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:26 pm
“OhMyGoodness they’re going to impose Sharia!!!!”
Jay obviously doesn’t understand Islam.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:27 pm
Pogo,
“OK, Jay doesn’t like Christians ”
What on Earth has Jay written for you to make that leap? I hope you stretched first.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:27 pm
Hillbilly
Yep…believe it was..
Oh, and Jay, AD=anno domini…alternate, CE Common Era…I use the latter…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:27 pm
“In this country, it certainly does.”
Slain Over Hijab? Father Allegedly Strangles Daughter Over Head Scarf
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3987812
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:27 pm
George W
“However when a religion promotes and defends violence, hate and superiority…..they cannot wonder why so many people are cautious towards that religion.”
I know what you mean. I mean, Christian church membership is way down since those Baptists started desecrating all those servicemen’s funerals. Now people know what Baptists and Christians are really like,
Bosch
Good strategy. Enjoy life here and still get into Heaven!
(do Episcopalopians still believe in Heaven?)(
Tommy Maddox
March 22nd, 2011
4:28 pm
You asked Jay. I simply explained the readily apparent.
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:28 pm
Herman Cain has had a REAL job and we REALLY do know where he was born and I’ll bet you he can have a real birth certificate in a mater of minutes, that alone makes him a better choice that the OBOZO the vacation boy.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:28 pm
They really should make our currency more PC. My suggestion:
In Allah, Jehovah, Buddha, God, Jesus, Maybe Nothing, and Definitely Nothing, We Trust
Then again, I guess electronic transactions are going to make paper currency meaningless soon enough. Whatever.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:28 pm
Paul…..great point!
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:28 pm
“Now, I’m no Constitutional scholar like Dave R., but I’m pretty sure we have laws in place that don’t let people kill other people because they won’t convert to their religion.
Isn’t that right Dave R.?”
Well, yes, you are no Constitutional scholar, Bosch.
And the Constitution SHOULD adequately protect us from any form of Sharia law being implemented, as long as the SCOTUS rules accordingly.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:28 pm
I guess you missed the phrase in that article:
“will appear in court today” meaning he’s been arrested for the charges. Again, we have laws that say you can’t do that.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:29 pm
Muslim husband who killed his wife and children because of their Western ways
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/muslim-husband-who-killed-his-wife-and-children-because-of-their-western-ways-437199.html
JF McNamara
March 22nd, 2011
4:29 pm
This guys a little mixed up. Last I checked, we had freedom of religion. That means that American Muslims can do whatever they chose so long as they do not break any laws.
I actually like his approach though only I want to ban recruiting of any religion. I’ve been approached by Jehovahs Witnesses, Atlanta Church of Christ, Mormons, and Baptists and I not so politely told them to get the (blank) out of my face.
I don’t care about anyone’s cult, and I’d prefer they all stay away from me.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:29 pm
“And the Constitution SHOULD adequately protect us from any form of Sharia law being implemented, as long as the SCOTUS rules accordingly”
Thanks Dave, in other words, I’M RIGHT…go ahead and say it.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:29 pm
The US Dollar is worth less than the Canadian Dollar. So sad.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:29 pm
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:24 pm
There WAS hope for you. You’ve got to admire their dedication.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
4:29 pm
Well, if Nazi’s, Southern Baptists, Commies, and the KKK are legal in this country, I guess the Muslims should be allowed to hang out here too….
And you even get to pick which ones you like. Ain’t America Great!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:29 pm
“I mean, Christian church membership is way down since those Baptists started desecrating all those servicemen’s funerals. Now people know what Baptists and Christians are really like”
And where is your proof?
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:30 pm
Define Sharia? Sure, George W.
“Sharia (n): A paranoid and absolutely groundless right-wing fixation; a fantasy that has about the same odds of becoming reality in this country as an invasion of little green men from Mars.”
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:31 pm
Arizona Police Hunt for Dad Accused of Running Over Daughter
Police Say Faleh Hassan Almaleki Believed His Daughter Was ‘Too Westernized’
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/US/arizona-police-hunt-muslim-father-ran-westernized-daughter/story?id=8890844
misplaced
March 22nd, 2011
4:31 pm
what about this?
In Luke 19:28 Jesus said, “…who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither and kill them before me”.
The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..
March 22nd, 2011
4:31 pm
Hey, everybody. I’ve been out of touch taking care of some sick relatives. Can anyone update me on the expensive, illegal, regime-changing Obama war in Libya?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:31 pm
“Sharia (n): A paranoid and absolutely groundless right-wing fixation; a fantasy that has about the same odds of becoming reality in this country as an invasion of little green men from Mars.”
Thanks for proving that you don’t understand Islam.
Joe Cool
March 22nd, 2011
4:31 pm
“Herman is the only candidate I have supported financially in the past 10 years”
Wasted Money….You Coulda Got You A Six Pack
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:31 pm
Sorry Paul, missed your post back to me — but of course they do!! We are a wise bunch of cultists, we are.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
4:31 pm
And where is your proof?
Coming from WOW, that’s just WOW.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:32 pm
Sharia….really…that is what it is????? Who knew…..
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:32 pm
Dave R, Bosch – well now wait a sec. Islam requires infidels to be killed. And the constitution requires the free practice of their religion. I sense a potential constitutional crisis coming on here.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:32 pm
Dammit, Jay, you just made me waste a perfectly good bite of ice cream. It’s Chunky Monkey too, that stuff ain’t just ordinary ice cream, you know.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:32 pm
“Thanks Dave, in other words, I’M RIGHT…go ahead and say it.”
Nope, won’t go THAT far, Bosch, since I don’t think you could EVER be called RIGHT.
More like “correct” in this instance.
The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..
March 22nd, 2011
4:32 pm
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:30 pm
I thought Sharia was Obama’s long lost muslim sister.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:32 pm
Luke 19:28
28 After Jesus had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem. 29 As he approached Bethphage and Bethany at the hill called the Mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples, saying to them, 30 “Go to the village ahead of you, and as you enter it, you will find a colt tied there, which no one has ever ridden. Untie it and bring it here. 31 If anyone asks you, ‘Why are you untying it?’ say, ‘The Lord needs it.’”
misplaced hasn’t read his Bible.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:32 pm
I thought this was Sharia Law Jay….
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=474_1296205218
TimFromLA
March 22nd, 2011
4:33 pm
I posted this comment in Christian Today, but it was removed:
Herman, can I have a large pizza, pepperoni, sausage, cheese with onion? Your logic of “converting” infidels to the Muslim race makes no sense. How so? Because Christians do the same. They try and convert. But instead of killing them non-believers outright, the Sky-Spook and the son, Jeebus, whose mother was born of rape, will kill you. Just like they do in Nebraska: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20110306/NEWS10/103060331 Thank dog that the mother had the opportunity to say goodbye to a living child who suffered. Religion makes me puke!
I wonder they censored me?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:33 pm
Bosch
You are, too…nyanh, nyanh!
POGO
Jay is not anti-Christian (at least here and from what I’ve seen) by any stretch of the imagination…in fact, I’ve found him to be very tolerant of all faiths and or lacks thereof…it’s refreshing…
And those of y’all bashing Mormans and JW’s…if I have the time, I invite them in for a discussion since I do enjoy that…if I don’t have the time, I invite them in, tell them that is so they will know I respect them and their efforts but that I’m not a candidate for conversion and come back later when I have time and we’ll talk about theology and the origin and meaning of the universe…sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t…but I was taught to be polite and welcoming to the stranger at your gate…
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
4:34 pm
Jay,
Are you sure they’re green. I mean, it is the red planet and little green men on mars would provide sufficient contrast to pick them out in a video image.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:34 pm
George W
Seriously, take the actions of some here, broadcast it in certain parts of the world, and I’m pretty sure they get a view of “all Americans” and “all Christians” every bit as skewed as we get of Muslims.
That’s why I like some of those Christian charities that operate in desperate parts of the world, No evangelizing, no restricting aid to only their members, but food, medical and other assistance to those who need it. All the people in the communities see is people who ‘aren’t like them’ helping them with not strings attached. Counters all those negative stereotypes they get of us.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:34 pm
“But instead of killing them non-believers outright, the Sky-Spook and the son, Jeebus, whose mother was born of rape, will kill you.”
Gee, I wonder why your hate filled rhetoric was censored.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:34 pm
Jay….here ya go….you are actually more ignorant than I thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:34 pm
“More like “correct” in this instance.”
More like, I’M RIGHT — Hahahahahaha! I know that just eats you up inside to admit it…..
hehehehehhehehehhe.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:34 pm
The Leg Lamp™©® is a “major award”…..
March 22nd, 2011
4:31 pm
War is a little bit of an exaggeration. Nothing but a routine training exercise. France and Britain are supposed to be doing most of the heavy lifting. Now Congress is upset because it wasn’t asked for approval that it hasn’t had the guts to give since WWII after many complained because Obama didn’t act sooner..
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:35 pm
Paul….and your point?
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:35 pm
” Islam requires infidels to be killed. And the constitution requires the free practice of their religion. I sense a potential constitutional crisis coming on here.”
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:35 pm
“France and Britain are supposed to be doing most of the heavy lifting. ”
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:35 pm
josef,
Nah, uh! So there!
Peadawg
March 22nd, 2011
4:36 pm
“So the Jehovah’s Witnesses should be thrown in jail?” – Of course not. All you have to do is answer the door when they knock butt naked and they’ll never bother you again.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:36 pm
WOW
““I mean, Christian church membership is way down since those Baptists started desecrating all those servicemen’s funerals. Now people know what Baptists and Christians are really like”
And where is your proof?”
Wound a little tight, are we?
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:37 pm
I’m merely using “correct” in the purest sense of the word, Bosch.
I didn’t want to offend you by calling you “right”, being the dedicated lefty that you are.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:37 pm
“All you have to do is answer the door when they knock butt naked and they’ll never bother you again.”
Or you could come to the door wearing a UGAG shirt and yell GO DAWGS WOOF WOOF SIC EM!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:37 pm
“Wound a little tight, are we?
Not at all, Paul.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:37 pm
Dammit, Peadawg (where’s that brain bleach?). Hey, be careful, did they catch that guy who killed the cop yet?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:38 pm
Tim
Why did they censor you? Maybe because you’re rude and ill mannered.
JF McN
So you not so politely told them…why not politely, works just as well…but then I guess you don’t want to get above your raising…
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:38 pm
Dave R.,
“I didn’t want to offend you by calling you “right”, being the dedicated lefty that you are. ”
I actually thought about that after my last post — thanks, you can be quite swell sometimes.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:40 pm
misplaced
“In Luke 19:28 Jesus said, “…who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither and kill them before me”.”
What translation you using? NIV renders it “After Jesus had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.”
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:40 pm
Dave R 4:35 – there’s nothing in the constitution prohibiting the taking of life. As a matter of fact, when the thing was written, slavery was ok, and state governments continue to conduct executions to this day.
Seems perfectly reasonable, since constitutional law precedes any federal laws prohibiting murder, that Muslims are perfectly within their rights, as guided by their religion, to go out and kill the infidels. Bad news for those peaceful religion folks….
Peadawg
March 22nd, 2011
4:41 pm
“Hey, be careful, did they catch that guy who killed the cop yet?” – Nah they haven’t caught the little thug yet. Still looking…
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:41 pm
Ok guys I am out, have a great evening.
Jay….keep working on that Sharia thing….I am sure you will get it sooner or later.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
“What translation you using? NIV renders it “After Jesus had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.”’
Paul, I posted that entire verse along with some that followed. Me thinks misplaced has a few screws loose.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
Sounds like some creative Bible editing.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
it was 19:27, Paul.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
Bosch
Are, too!
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
HEY JAY……why dont you post on your blog a cartoon drawing of Mohammed and see what happens…….
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
“I actually thought about that after my last post — thanks, you can be quite swell sometimes.”
I’m just showing off my sensitive side, Bosch!
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
Known plenty of impolite people.
“Raising” generally don’t enter into it.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:43 pm
“why dont you post on your blog a cartoon drawing of Mohammed and see what happens’
EXACTLY!!!!! Hey, why not get Luckavich to do it. Oh wait, he’s skeered.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:43 pm
JAY
@ 4:42
Way to go! I rest my case!
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:44 pm
Better be careful Dave, somebody might think you’re a liberal…ewwwww……
Be careful Peadawg!!
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:45 pm
No George, I won’t do that. I also won’t stick a Christ figure in a jar of urine, for the same reason. I have no interest in gratuitous insults of religious faith, and have no respect for those who do.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:45 pm
Urban Meyer going to Ohio State.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:45 pm
OMG, I wish they’d get that news story about that plane crashing in Libya off the news for just a bit…it’s making me have panic attacks.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
Jay….so you associate drawing a figure with placing one in a jar of urine??? Really mature comment. Ha, coward!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
“I also won’t stick a Christ figure in a jar of urine, for the same reason.’
How many artists were beheaded over that? ZERO
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
George W
Point was just (and I meant to type ‘if other parts of the world saw select actions those here do) people get a skewed view of things, often based on the actions of a few. Kinda helps to view ourselves thru their eyes to understand how those views can be formed.
My point about the charities was I think it does a world of good to have people in those parts of the world getting slanted view of Christians or Westerners to get aid with no strings attached. Sure, there’s the residual suspicion, but overall, it helps undo the damage some here have caused.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
“it’s making me have panic attacks.”
Poor baby.
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
It’s funny that Liberals call Republicans war mongers and it was the Democrats that have started 90% of all the wars in the past century…just keeping you honest.
WWI-Wilson D
WWII-Roosevelt D
Korea-Truman D
Vietnam-Kennedy D
Bosnia- Clinton
Bush I-Iraq R
Bush II-Iraq R
I think you have us beat hands down for war mongering….kinda of like that other myth, you’re for the blacks and the little guy…that ones easy to debunk also.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
WOW…..great point…..this fool just wont get it.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm
Interesting article….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811197
Religion may become extinct in nine nations, study says
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm
Bid D….Clinton also had Iraq.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm
Jay 4:45 – yeah, tolerance. I’m all for tolerance too. It stops when the folks engage in murder and terrorism. Being a KKK member isn’t illegal, and nor should it be. But I’m damn certain the police and citizenry should keep a close eye on those folks.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm
I think the preamble might just cover the whole “taking of a life” thing, jm.
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
Kinda hard to argue against the “establish justice” and “insure domestic tranquility” thing, don’t you think?
Not to mention that it is kinda hard to enjoy “the blessings of liberty” when you can be killed on a whim.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:48 pm
“I think you have us beat hands down for war mongering….kinda of like that other myth, you’re for the blacks and the little guy…that ones easy to debunk also.”
And a Democrat socialist also helped build the atomic bomb. 2 Jews and a socialist to be exact.
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:48 pm
G W 4:42…yea, he would find out real quick just how ” peaceful” they really are.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:48 pm
Bosch, Paul and any other Anglicans…
I met a fellow the other day from Turkey…he was involved in the efforts there to restore some of the Byzantine frescoes painted over by the Muslims. He had been invited to England to help restore some of the Norman frescoes painted over by Henry and Company…a little bit of ecumenism to brighten our day!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:49 pm
WWI-Wilson D
WWII-Roosevelt D
Korea-Truman D
Vietnam-Kennedy D
Bosnia- Clinton
Bush I-Iraq R
Bush II-Iraq R
And who is left out: REAGAN!!!!!!!!!!
TimFromLA
March 22nd, 2011
4:50 pm
@WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:34 pm
//“But instead of killing them non-believers outright, the Sky-Spook and the son, Jeebus, whose mother was born of rape, will kill you.”
Gee, I wonder why your hate filled rhetoric was censored.//
Where is the hate? Telling a woman to not have an abortion and watching a living being suffer isn’t hate? This is what Christianity teaches? Oh right, this is NOT hate-filled, but the will of the Pizza-eating-Sky-Spook. Then this is why Christianity is such an evil organization.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
4:50 pm
Paul – it’s actually Luke 19:27 not 28
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:51 pm
“Where is the hate? Telling a woman to not have an abortion and watching a living being suffer isn’t hate? This is what Christianity teaches? Oh right, this is NOT hate-filled, but the will of the Pizza-eating-Sky-Spook. Then this is why Christianity is such an evil organization.’
Tim, you got problems, dude.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:51 pm
“Not to mention that it is kinda hard to enjoy “the blessings of liberty” when you can be killed on a whim.”
Yeap.
(Aren’t you doubly scared that I agreed with you?)
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:52 pm
Dave R – 4:47 – I don’t think Domestic Tranquility means what you think it means. More like a national defense clause. If Domestic Tranquility meant what you thought, I’m 99.9% sure slavery wouldn’t have flown.
In all seriousness, its kinda surprising a Muslim hasn’t tried to use the 1st amendment. Maybe they have.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:52 pm
Big D
And if we can believe the Carpetbag-Scalawag-Yankee Imperialist Running Dogs, add the Late Misunderstanding to the list even if it were more than a century ago!
Jefferson Davis (D)
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
josef,
That is cool! Thanks for sharing! Right up my alley on many levels. And, you’re still wrong.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
Jay – WOW
19:27?
The parable? About the ten servants? A story told to illustrate a larger point? A story told knowing only a certain few would understand the principle behind it and others would not understand?
Again, some people quoting the Bible remind me of people who quote a line from Midsummer Night’s Dream and proclaim “See! That’s Shakespeare’s entire philosophy! Right there in one line! It explains all his plays, life, the universe and everything!”
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
WOW 4:49 And which war was that….
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
In all seriousness, jm?
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
josef,
Just curious, but do you ever watch that show NCIS? You remind me of Duckie on that show.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
March 22nd, 2011
4:54 pm
Our anti-Christian friends do not have to worry about Luke 19:27 during this lifetime. Why change your ways?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:54 pm
Paul
I posted the entire verse along with some that followed.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm
Dave R – sad truth. “Murder” is legal in many forms. Government can do it. An individual can do it in self defense. And when slavery was legal, you could kill your slave if you so decided (puke). If an individual can do it in self defense, or their religion requires it, I don’t see anything stopping them frankly (legally).
People should probably avoid pointing out the 1st amendment to Muslims….
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm
Yep , and he was talking about those God awful slave freeing Republicans…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm
“WOW 4:49 And which war was that….’
No war, Big D. I was just stating that Reagan never started a war and ended the Cold War without firing a shot.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm
“That’s Shakespeare’s entire philosophy! Right there in one line! It explains all his plays, life, the universe and everything!”
There are idiots everywhere, Paul. No one is immune from their existence.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:56 pm
Jay 4:53 – just thinking out loud. What part of the Constitution bans murder, either by government or individuals? There isn’t one. It is part of federal law of course.
Ok, I’m laughing at myself right now. But the reality is government commits murder through capital punishment. Just food for thought here….
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:57 pm
jm,
“People should probably avoid pointing out the 1st amendment to Muslims….”
Don’t worry, freedom of religion doesn’t trump the actual law of the land. Sleep easy there.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:57 pm
No, Reagan cut and ran by GOP standards. But he did bravely attack Libya and invade Grenada.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:57 pm
“The parable? About the ten servants? A story told to illustrate a larger point? A story told knowing only a certain few would understand the principle behind it and others would not understand?”
The ten minas: parable of the long journey.
Whoever posted that verse left out the ENTIRE parable.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:58 pm
“No, Reagan cut and ran by GOP standards. ”
LOL
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
4:58 pm
” “Murder” is legal in many forms. Government can do it. An individual can do it in self defense.”
No, it isn’t. Killing is legal in some instances. Murder never is.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:58 pm
Funny thing about your list, WOW.
Bosnia, which was exclusively an air campaign, is listed as a war.
Yet you don’t list Reagan’s invasion of Grenada, or Bush’s invasion of Panama.
that's just goofy
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
I’ve never had a Muslim come to my door to preach – or try to convert me. Christians however ….
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
“But the reality is government commits murder through capital punishment. Just food for thought here”
Nope again. The government is not murdering you when you are convicted of a crime and sentenced to death.
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
WOW ..I know I just wanted them to see the foolishness of their words about Reagan…if they had to think about which war… it would in turn make them think.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
“Bosnia, which was exclusively an air campaign, is listed as a war.”
Not my list, Jay. Big D posted it and I copied it and showed that Reagan never took the US to war.
“Yet you don’t list Reagan’s invasion of Grenada, or Bush’s invasion of Panama.”
Again, not my list, Jay.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
Bosch
You are welcome. I thought you might like that one…and I am not. BTW, I’ll take Duckie as a compliment, but how so?
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:00 pm
mur·der
noun \ˈmər-dər\
Definition of MURDER
1: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
Murder by definition means unlawful.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:00 pm
“Yet you don’t list Reagan’s invasion of Grenada”
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
5:00 pm
Folks, we haven’t been in a “war” since WWII.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
5:00 pm
josef,
You are full of great tidbits of trivia and knowledge!
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
5:01 pm
Oh, and josef….are so.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:02 pm
Jay:
Vietnam is listed on the Iwo Jima Memorial in Washington, D.C. as a “conflict”.
58,000 + “conflicts”
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:02 pm
A disengaged presidency
Let’s begin a thoughtful discussion about the about the dangers of a disengaged presidency while the nation is challenged by multiple wars, punishing unemployment and a festering fiscal crisis that will someday explode, unless it is addressed credibly.
The governing style and political strategy of President Obama simultaneously hurts the reelection prospects of both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and delays crucial decisions that require strong hands-on leadership from the president.
http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/brent-budowsky/151033-a-disengaged-presidency
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
5:02 pm
“not my list…”
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:02 pm
Which comes first? Constitutional law permitting free exercise of religion, or federal or state law making first degree murder illegal.
When the founders wrote the first amendment, they sure as heck didn’t contemplate a religion that requires murdering non-believers. If so, they’d a said something like “permit the free exercise of religion as long as such religion does not physically harm others”
Help me out here Jay. I know this is a ridiculous argument. I’m no legal jock. Where’s the language that says, life comes before religion.
In fact, the 5th amendment obviously provides for the execution of those as necessary…..
Just curious. Inquiring minds want to know.
Not that it is particularly relevant. The nutjobs aren’t going to let either federal, state, or constitutional law stop them….
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:03 pm
Bosch
Not so sure about the knowledge, but trivia, yes…love it…makes you sound a lot smarter than you really are..
Oh, and am not
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:03 pm
TnGelding :
If you mean a “declared one” you are correct.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:03 pm
Doggone 4:59 – nice hair splitting
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:03 pm
” I don’t think Domestic Tranquility means what you think it means. More like a national defense clause.”
Oh, I think keeping things within the borders peaceful pretty much defines “domestic tranquility”. Kinda like societal order. And you can’t have that when you can kill someone on a whim.
““Murder” is legal in many forms. Government can do it. An individual can do it in self defense.”
The government cannot “murder”. It can seek an appropriate punishment in kind for committing such, but it cannot initiate the act. And self defense is not murder. It may be the taking of a life, but again, is not initiated.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
5:04 pm
josef nix
Nice, nice story. Art transcends all.
Was going thru a private chapel in the Rock of Cashel in Ireland last summer. Walls and ceiling had been plastered and whitewashed. Workmen chipped thru the plaster, underneath were wonderfully vivid frescoes, with gold. Work stopped as they’re figuring out who to contact to restore.
If you run into that guy again, he may want to email them -
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:04 pm
Kamchak 5:00 pm – what killing is lawful?
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:06 pm
Kamchak 5:00 pm – what killing is lawful?
Didn’t say anything about “killing”, sport.
The subject was/is “murder.”
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:06 pm
“nice hair splitting”
No, actually it isn’t. “Murder” has a specific legal meaning. If you kill someone in self-defense, you did not murder them. If the government legally executes you, you were not murdered. If someone shoots at someone else with intent to murder them, but get you instead – you were not murdered. If your wife stabs you in the middle of the night and kills you, you were murdered.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:06 pm
“Imagine how upset the left will be when Khadafy’s weapons of mass destruction are not found.” -Rush
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
jm
EOI here, but “they sure as heck didn’t contemplate a religion that requires murdering non-believers…” that was very much what they were contemplating…the European wars of religion were still fresh in their minds and they were out to do all they could to keep from repeating the same mistake here…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
Jay:
Here is the type of American Muslims we shouild have written by …… well ……… an American Muslim !
“Anxiety on all sides of upcoming House hearing on radicalization of U.S. Muslims”
By Michelle Boorstein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 26, 2011; 5:31 PM
Zuhdi Jasser leads the American Islamic Forum for Democracy.
“In some ways, Zuhdi Jasser doesn’t match the profile of the typical Muslim American. He’s an active Republican who has supported U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, advocates for Israel and says his faith harbors “an insidious supremacism.”
That final point is the core tenet of Jasser, a father of three, Navy veteran and a former doctor to Congress.
Through his nonprofit group, the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, he debates other Muslims and appears on mostly conservative media to press Muslim leaders to aggressively oppose a “culture of separatism.” He wants clerics to disavaow scripture that belittles non-Muslims and women and to renounce a role for Islam in government.
Into the void comes Jasser, who sits on the board of a nonprofit group that made two controversial films about the dangers of radical Islam. The Clarion Fund says on its Web site that the growth of the American Muslim population “is raising eyebrows from sea to shining sea. . . . And if you think that a growing Muslim population cannot threaten America, just look at Europe.”
LONG VERSION:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/26/AR2011022600330.html?hpid=topnews
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
Well, jm, there is the “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness’ verbiage in the Declaration of Independence, where “life” comes first.
Other than that, I think the other points I’ve made pretty much cover the Sharia law implementation argument.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
Well, there goes the Democrat vote.
Black populations fall in major cities
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2011-03-22-1Ablacks22_ST_N.htm
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
Kam 5:06 – what? your definition: the crime of UNLAWFULLY KILLING a person especially with malice aforethought
What killing is lawful?
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
5:09 pm
Has the US spent a billion dollars on Obama’s little war in Libya yet?
I got this viral video today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v99wEjLa-E&feature=player_embedded
They’re yelling Allah Abar !, Allah Abar and then….
This will play well on Al Jazeera.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:09 pm
josef nix 5:07 – sure nough.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:10 pm
PAUL
Will pass that on to him…he might well be interested in going there to look-see anyway
I asked him how it was going in their efforts in Turkey…he said it’s really an issue between the secularists and the fundamentalists…
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
5:10 pm
Just got the ‘30-minute battery warning” on my laptop, so if it bonks out before I can find an outlet
pleasant evening, folks
Bosch
“There are idiots everywhere, Paul. No one is immune from their existence.”
No kidding. The fact they don’t know the meaning of life, the universe and everything is in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, not in the collected works of Shakespeare, is proof enough of that.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:11 pm
“What killing is lawful?”
executions
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:11 pm
Smeat!!!!!!
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:12 pm
I’ve entered the Twilight Zone. I’m beginning to feel like William Shatner at 20,000 ft.
Bosch and I have agreed on something, and now Doggone and I are using the same arguments.
I knew that 5 martini lunch was a bad idea . . .
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:12 pm
Kam 5:06 – what? your definition:…
Not my definition, Merriam-Webster’s.
Take your complaint to them.
Had to cut down a tree yesterday, I killed it.
The police haven’t arrested me, so I guess that “killing” is legal.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:12 pm
AIFD – “American Islamic Forum for Democracy”
http://www.aifdemocracy.org/news.php?id=6131
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:12 pm
Dave R – well, I think the Declaration is not exactly a part of US law, except such as it separates us from the UK.
There’s got to be a case out there where some nutjob said: “My religion made me do it” and the court said – you’re loco buddy. But I’m not aware of it….
Del
March 22nd, 2011
5:13 pm
Jay, you’re displaying ignorance and or ideological captivity to the lefts absurd bias. Hopefully, it’s only the former. There is no reasonable comparison with Christian Evangelicals and Islamic Sharia law that condones outright murder of those who reject its precepts. Evangelicals simply deliver the good news of Jesus Christ and allow the Holy Spirit to take charge from there. Evangelical Christians are simply messengers, not enforcers of belief. Many on the far-left must be truly miserable human beings living in a nation founded on Christian-Judeo principles that is embraced by so many of their fellow countryman
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
5:13 pm
josef nix
“I asked him how it was going in their efforts in Turkey…he said it’s really an issue between the secularists and the fundamentalists”
No matter where you go, no matter who you talk to, it’s always the same, isn’t it?
Somehow, I’d hoped we could find some better examples of ‘we’re all the same.’
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:14 pm
“I’ve entered the Twilight Zone. I’m beginning to feel like William Shatner at 20,000 ft.”
This version is better, Dave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwEclI_ffOA&feature=related
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
5:15 pm
Would you guys PLEASE stop talking about definitions? Or Harry’s gonna magically appear and say ’socialism’…..
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:15 pm
jm
@ 5:07
Warfare, capital punishment and justifiable homocide for starters…
Fedup
March 22nd, 2011
5:15 pm
Can anybody see the fruitcake is like Sarah Palin trying to sell something. They are all the same a quick get rich scheme.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:16 pm
Oh, no you don’t, WOW . . .
There is NOTHING better than the Shat!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:16 pm
“There is NOTHING better than the Shat!’
No, but the gremlin in the 1980 version was way scarier than that crappy looking retarded teddy bear creature from the old version.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:18 pm
Well, duh! 1963 vs. 1980!
But we’re talkin’ ’bout the Shat!
Normal
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
God save us from ALL religions. Religions are man made, man isflawed, ergo rligion is flawed. Worship your God in the privacy of your heat and be silent about it.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
josef nix 5:15 – exactly. Calling Constitutional Scholar Obama….. what law says you can’t kill people even if your nutty religion says you can? I know its out there. The Waco wackos obviously were subject to it.
saywhat?
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
Del wrote “Jay, you’re displaying ignorance and or ideological captivity to the lefts absurd bias. Hopefully, it’s only the former. There is no reasonable comparison with Christian Evangelicals and Islamic Sharia law that condones outright murder of those who reject its precepts. Evangelicals simply deliver the good news of Jesus Christ and allow the Holy Spirit to take charge from there. Evangelical Christians are simply messengers, not enforcers of belief. Many on the far-left must be truly miserable human beings living in a nation founded on Christian-Judeo principles that is embraced by so many of their fellow countryman”
Oh REALLY? Is it Islamists trying to pass laws enforcing their own beliefs on abortion on the rest of us? Is it Islamists trying to enforce their beliefs against alcohol purchases on Sunday? Please show me a single proposed law in the U.S. that is an attempt by Islamists to enforce Sharia law on me.Just one instance.
Normal
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
Thats heart, but I like heat too…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
In my opinion there are three basic types of Muslims:
1) Westernized Muslims – a very small minority of Muslims in the U.S. are in this category. They worship Allah in sincerity but they also (because of their education and secularization) embrace freedom and Western democracy. They fear the following two forms of Islam probably as much as we do.
2) Classic Muslims – most Muslims in the world fall into this category and many live in the U.S. They embrace Islam in its unbridled totality (educational, societal, legal, economic, political, governmental, military, religious, etc.,). They may not individually murder or terrorize in the name of Allah/Islam but neither to they verbally condemn those who do. Radical Islam recruits from their ranks. This type of Islam must be marginalized in the U.S. as much as possible (including closed immigration) or given enough time and volume it will ensure the destruction of this Republic as we know it.
3) Radical/Terrorist Muslims – these types of Muslims will stop at nothing to physically force their vicious schism of Islam on the world. They are pure evil and every effort must be made to totally eradicate their influence and existance from the face of the earth.
The question for all of you to answer is which kind do we want here ……….. especially for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:22 pm
“God save us from ALL religions.”
It’s the relationship with God that matters.
Pogo
March 22nd, 2011
5:22 pm
josef, I don’t think Jay is anti-Christian. I just think him and his ideological brethren just think that it is the most vulnerable and the most acceptable religion to attack without any potential political fallout for themselves from their editors or their peers. White Christians in this country have become the “enemy” to be conquered by the left. Nevermind that there are millions of black christians. To the left, the Christianity that is practiced in the black church is much different than the “hateful” Christianity that whites practice. And why is that? Because black christians blindly support the demoractic party. It is just that simple.
The left can’t attack Jews or Muslims or Hindus because it would be not politically correct to do so as those religions don’t represent the largest majority of religious people in this country. The progressive movement is all about attacking the white majority of anything and furthering the cause of the minority because if they (the left) can get enough groups that they deem as “minorities” on their side, they think that they can control things. And to the left, this whole thing is about control and eliminating anyone and anything that stands in their way of achieving their goal. The only types of people in our society that are allowed to be attacked and made fun of anymore are obese people, people from the South (because of their supposed stereotypical “ignorance” and “bigot” label), black people that stray from the democratic fold and certain conservative women. There is nothing more that liberals hate than members of their ordained “minorities” that “defect” from their liberal cause. I means Jays piece here is meant to do exactly what I am saying and look at Palin. I don’t like Palin at all but it is totally OK with NOW for Bill Maher to call her a “cu#@” on national TV. Is Jay OK with this? Is anyone OK with calling a woman this? The silence from the media on this arrogant clown calling Palin this most derogratory term is because their ideology means more than common decency and if that is what our society has come to, I want no part of it. And make no mistake, I am not a died in the wool Christrian. I do believe in a higher power but my belief is my own business as is everyone elses. I hate hypocrisy and I see more and more of it everyday here and everywhere else.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:23 pm
“Religions” are mankind’s way of trying to reach out to God.
“Christianity” is God’s way of reaching out to mankind.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:23 pm
“The left can’t attack Jews or Muslims or Hindus’
They don’t mind attacking Israel.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:24 pm
““Christianity” is God’s way of reaching out to mankind.”
Huh, I thought it was God’s way of redemption.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:24 pm
“It’s the relationship with God that matters to people of faith”.
Fixed your typo, WOW. You need to remember that not all believe. And have every right to do so.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:25 pm
Religion’s got nothing to do with god, and god’s got nothing to do with religion.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:25 pm
“Fixed your typo, WOW. You need to remember that not all believe. And have every right to do so.”
You must have me confused with someone else.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
5:26 pm
Once again, much ado about nothing, jay.
“Their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely … and not try to convert the rest of us.”
In other words, they better not get too pushy, right Mr. Cain?
Cain would probably say the same thing about the Jehovah’s Witness.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:28 pm
“Religion’s got nothing to do with god, and god’s got nothing to do with religion.”
I’m not sure I totally buy into that statement, Kamchak. I think you have to have a religion first in order to have a concept of a god. Not sure I’m phrasing that properly, but I think one begats the other.
Del
March 22nd, 2011
5:28 pm
saywhat?, it’s not my responsibility to show you, it’s yours to stop wallowing in what you wish it is and pay attention to what it is.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:30 pm
“You must have me confused with someone else.”
No, I was referencing your comment @ 5:22 on the previous page.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:30 pm
POGO
There is a great deal of truth to what you say there. It is not my religion, but it particularly galls me when somebody comes in attacking Christianity and Christians (or any faith for that matter) with a broad brush. And you are right, there is this list that many liberals and no small few conservatives have of those it is okay to malign out of hand…
I don’t think Jay does it with religions, but he sure does with Southerners and lets ride comments against certain socio-economic classes without challenge…but, I suppose we all have our prejudices and biases…
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:30 pm
“I think you have to have a religion first in order to have a concept of a god. Not sure I’m phrasing that properly, but I think one begats the other.”
Not neccessarily. Think you have to have a concept of a god to have faith in one, but that doesn’t mean you have a religion.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
5:31 pm
I have no interest in gratuitous insults of religious faith, and have no respect for those who do.
Jay wrote that and good for him.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:32 pm
Pogo:
In my opinion Jay and millions of others are mistaken to think that all “religions” are equal and should be tolerated equally and treated equally. That is pure nonsense !
There are some religions in this country that like polygamy. We don’t allow that. It’s against the law. We don’t treat that religion equally.
It is my understanding that the British fear there are still some tribes in Uganda who sacrifice children to the “Crocadile God”. Guess what ………. that “religion” should disappear from the face of the earth.
If Jim Jones had not sipped the Kool-Aid and was still operating here in this country and immigrants by the hundreds of thousands were coming here to join his “cult”, change our laws and many were even violent about it what should our reaction be?
“Tolerance is the virtue of those who stand for nothing.”
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
“I don’t think Jay does it with religions, but he sure does with Southerners and lets ride comments against certain socio-economic classes without challenge…but, I suppose we all have our prejudices and biases…”
And a gentle poke at the Bruin through the bars by the man from Mississippi!
George W. Bush Jr. (formally known as Obama)
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
Ya that’s right…I’m going to bomb Libya and spread Democracy. How’s that for Hope and Change!!!
onpatroll
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
scout, your question is infantile. If we stay with your 3 muslim categories; chances are that classical muslims from the middle east come to the US. If they have children here they will be in category 1 whether their parents like it or not…this same analogy can be used for those of us (americans who have been here for generations) who grew up in christian, conservative households where the children don’t follow the parents. Over time you will lose both groups of muslim and christian radicals just like today. You can’t stand gay people but your typical high school student doesn’t see it your way anymore and within time they will be able to marry and in another closer to home example; we will hopefully have alcohol sales on sunday.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
WOW
“They don’t mind attacking Israel.”
But that’s not the same thing as…if you don’t believe it, just ask them! But I’ve learned not to go there here…and ever so often you do get a critic hereabouts who says “The State of Israel” or the Government of Israel…I tend to listen to them…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
WOW:
That’s just another way of saying it ……… redemption, salvation, eternal life, etc., etc.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:34 pm
josef nix
I just think it’s interesting that there are American Jews who act as though they’re truly embarrassed of Israel.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
“That’s just another way of saying it ……… redemption, salvation, eternal life, etc., etc.”
Si
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
Send the Libyans to Gitmo. It’s still open for business.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
“I’m going to bomb Libya and spread Democracy”
Hate to break it to you…but the “spreading” started without us. We’re just helping to protect it.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
“There are some religions in this country that like polygamy. We don’t allow that. It’s against the law. We don’t treat that religion equally.”
And we are wrong to do so. As long as the act doesn’t affect the life, liberty or property of another, there should be no law against any practice.
That is what “equality” and “freedom” are all about.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
I think you have to have a religion first in order to have a concept of a god.
No, all you have to have is a soul.
Religion is a political organization.
Not just electoral “politics”, but “politics” in the sense that when more than two people get together and have to make decisions, then a certain amount of “lobbying” goes on to arrive at a consensus.
Some of the worst politicking that I have witnessed involves pulpit and/or building committees in 3 SBC churches.
Lifetime friendships lost.
Families torn apart.
Churches split up.
Not god’s work.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:36 pm
I remember when the left was talking up Obama like he was the next savior of the world. How he would end war, close Gitmo, end the Bush tax cuts, solve unemployment, not attack a country without first being attacked…….
Those were the good ole days.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:36 pm
DAVE R
Well, I don’t want Sister Dusty coming in calling me a suck up! And L-rd knows, I’m trying to learn the fine art of double standards…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:36 pm
“Hate to break it to you…but the “spreading” started without us. We’re just helping to protect it.’
Yes, by bombing a country that didn’t attack us………….
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:37 pm
MAKE BRACKETS NOT WAR
MAKE BRACKETS NOT WAR
MAKE BRACKETS NOT WAR
MAKE BRACKETS NOT WAR
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:37 pm
“No, all you have to have is a soul.”
That doesn’t quite cut it, either.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:37 pm
WEAR MOM JEANS, NOT CAMO
WEAR MOM JEANS, NOT CAMO
WEAR MOM JEANS, NOT CAMO
WEAR MOM JEANS, NOT CAMO
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:37 pm
“And we are wrong to do so. As long as the act doesn’t affect the life, liberty or property of another, there should be no law against any practice”
And I agree. As long as the partners in the polygamy and any children that result are fairly and legally protected, I see no reason to make it illegal.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:38 pm
THROW BASEBALLS, NOT GRENADES
THROW BASEBALLS, NOT GRENADES
THROW BASEBALLS, NOT GRENADES
THROW BASEBALLS, NOT GRENADES
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:39 pm
“That doesn’t quite cut it, either”
Well, I got curious and looked up “religion” in the dictionary and what came up actually makes no refererence to a god at all:
re·li·gion /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Show Spelled
[ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA
–noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic . religious rites.
8. Archaic . strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one’s vow.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:40 pm
CHANGE POSITIONS, NOT REGIMES
CHANGE POSITIONS, NOT REGIMES
CHANGE POSITIONS, NOT REGIMES
CHANGE POSITIONS, NOT REGIMES
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:40 pm
BUILD HIGH SPEED INDUSTRIAL TRAINS, NOT NATIONS
BUILD HIGH SPEED INDUSTRIAL TRAINS, NOT NATIONS
BUILD HIGH SPEED INDUSTRIAL TRAINS, NOT NATIONS
BUILD HIGH SPEED INDUSTRIAL TRAINS, NOT NATIONS
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:40 pm
WOW
I’m embarassed by some of the actions and policies of the government of the State of Israel…no, let me take that back. Shamed as a Jew would be a better word, and that wall is one of them…there are just some things that a Jew cannot do and walling in a group of people is one of them. But Israel? Well, have to admit, I’m one of the uppity variety Granddaddy called the Hebrew Tarzans!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:41 pm
SOMEWHERE IN CHICAGO, A VILLAGE IS MISSING ITS IDIOT
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:41 pm
“I’m embarassed by some of the actions and policies of the government of the State of Israel”
Like what?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:42 pm
OBAMA LIED, LIBYANS DIED
@@
March 22nd, 2011
5:43 pm
This isn’t intended as a Muslim bash, it’s directed at Qaddafi, who, inconveniently is Muslim.
The Gaddafi regime continues to deny any massacre took place in the Libyan town of Zawiyah.
Instead the government spokesman in Tripoli has asked Britain to produce “evidence” of any civilians dying at the hands of Gaddafi forces there.
Well, Dr Moussa Ibrahim, Sky News has that evidence. A Sky News team of three was trapped in Zawiyah as Gaddafi unleashed the might of his toughest brigade on the town – for days and days.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Video-Libya-Gaddafi-Regime-Denies-Massacre-In-Zawiyah-But-Sky-News-Has-Evidence-It-Happened/Article/201103415958004?lpos=World_News_Top_Stories_Header_2&lid=ARTICLE_15958004_Video%2C_Libya%3A_Gaddafi_Regime_Denies_Massacre_In_Zawiyah%2C_But_Sky_News_Has_Evidence_It_Happened
Women and children with bullets in their heads.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:43 pm
You know “WOW” just adds SO MUCH to this blog. None of it advances the discussion one iota…but it does ADD a lot.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:43 pm
K’chak
And you and the SCB…you find what you go looking for and “still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest…” And I mean that with all due respect for your search for enlightenment.
saywhat?
March 22nd, 2011
5:44 pm
Del- in other words, you make stuff up and we should all just believe you. Good plan. Maybe you should stop wallowing in your irrational fear of things that don’t exist and pay attention to what does.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:44 pm
OBAMA LIED, BILL MAHER CRIED
OBAMA LIED, BILL MAHER CRIED
OBAMA LIED, BILL MAHER CRIED
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:45 pm
“You know “WOW” just adds SO MUCH to this blog. None of it advances the discussion one iota…but it does ADD a lot.’
Says the guy who hasn’t once discussed Herman Cain.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:45 pm
WOW
@ 5:41
See my
@ 5:40
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:46 pm
MUSLIM Dr. Zuhdi Jasser (the Thomas Paine of freedom loving Muslims in America) :
1) “says his faith harbors ‘an insidious supremacism’ “.
2) Wants “Muslim leaders to aggressively oppose a ‘culture of separatism’.”
3) Wants “clerics to disavaow scripture that belittles non-Muslims and women”.
4) Wants “clerics to renounce a role for Islam in government”.
Now, does anyone out there have any problems with Dr. Jasser’s statements (excluding of course Islamic terrorist cell leaders) ?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:46 pm
STOP OBAMA’S TERRORISM
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:46 pm
josef
As I grow older, I find myself more in tune with Siddhartha and his river.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:47 pm
Dave R:
Does that include the “Crocadile God” ceremony ????
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:47 pm
OUT OF LIBYA NOW
@@
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
josef:
I’m wondering how jay would confront a pushy Jew?
(ISH)
saywhat?
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:43 pm
“You know “WOW” just adds SO MUCH to this blog. None of it advances the discussion one iota…but it does ADD a lot.”
It adds the opportunity for me to use my scroll wheel on my mouse.I stopped reading the troll’s nonsense long ago. Do that and you can actually be smarter after reading Jays blog.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
WOW
Doggone is a she…not that it matters except in pronoun selection…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER DEMOCRAT WAR
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
“Doggone is a she…not that it matters except in pronoun selection…”
noted
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:49 pm
DOWN WITH THE OBAMA REGIME
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:49 pm
BRING OUR TROOPS OUT OF LIBYA NOW
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:50 pm
NO OBAMA, YOU CAN’T HAVE MY BABY FOR YOUR WARS
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:51 pm
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:51 pm
TROOPS OUT OF IRAFGHANILIB NOW
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:52 pm
WE DO NOT TORTURE
Del
March 22nd, 2011
5:52 pm
I think Pogo @5:22 is spot on. It’s not that liberals generally speaking hate Christians, ( although there are those on the far-left who do) it’s that they see Christians as potentially a very strong voting block, which it can be and they think that discrediting Christians will somehow weaken that block.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:53 pm
“Do that and you can actually be smarter after reading Jays blog.”
Trust me…I DO scroll right on by, mostly.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:53 pm
Kamchak
I recently unearthed the Hesse work…BTW have you read “Ishmael?”
@@
How would Jay confront a pushy Jew? I can assure you, by telling us to get back into our “you poor unfortunate thing” corner and be grateful…ISH
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:53 pm
“Trust me…I DO scroll right on by, mostly.’
They mostly come at night. Mostly.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
“Doggone is a she…not that it matters except in pronoun selection”
Yeah, well…I said something on an earlier blog about being a liberated woman…but THAT one seems to have sailed right on by.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
“How would Jay confront a pushy Jew?”
By telling said Jew to stop calling people leg humpers.
Mark T
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
JayJay, Jay…Obama goes to war without approval from Congress and if course thats not news worthy(btw, Bush got approval first), and this is what you talk about…
The hypocrisy is unreal!
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
You know, just the other day, a Muslim jumped out from behind a tree and tried to convert me to Islam. I said, “we gave at the office.” He looked kinda puzzled and went back behind his tree.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
Should all so-called religions be given equal protection from gratuitous remark. What about L. Ron Hubbard’s Church or atheism (it’s just the religion of no religion) or the family that protests at funerals. What if they believe that the only way for them to be saved is to protest. Then there’s devil worshipping and witchcraft. Do we draw a line or is anything potentially declarable as a religion worthy of our restraint and respect.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:55 pm
“Yeah, well…I said something on an earlier blog about being a liberated woman…but THAT one seems to have sailed right on by.”
Maybe because most people avoid your comments.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:55 pm
“What about L. Ron Hubbard’s Church or atheism”
Atheism isn’t a religion.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:56 pm
“Does that include the “Crocadile God” ceremony ????”
Of course not, Scout, because it violates the “life” portion of the life, liberty or property part of my argument.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:56 pm
DOWN WITH ENRON
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:57 pm
“is anything potentially declarable as a religion worthy of our restraint and respect”
There’s nothing in our laws or our society that requires you to respect any religion, but if you find one intolerable you are still expected to restrain yourself from violence.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:58 pm
DOWN WITH HALIBURTON
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:58 pm
josef
I used to have a voracious appetite for reading, but that part of me is resting. After doing the wiki thing on Ismael it looks like just the kind of thing I should’ve read.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:00 pm
At least Herman has Joy opening blogs about him.
How much traction will it generate? Probably not much but every time he gets press his numbers improve.
Cain is a smart guy with a proven track record as a get-it-done type leader and motivator.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:00 pm
WOW, Doggone
I read both of y’all,,,sometimes I agree and applaud, sometimes I disagree and hiss…but, then, I’m a reactionary and proud of it and come here to vent!
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:01 pm
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
3:50 pm
I gots me a genuine little brother.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Doesn’t it always feel good when you pick up a cowardly cyber stalker who uses your name?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:02 pm
K’chak
I highly recommend it…I think you’d like it…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:02 pm
“Cain is a smart guy with a proven track record as a get-it-done type leader and motivator.”
He also ran a business and worked his way up instead of allowing affirmative action get him into Harvard.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:03 pm
“Doesn’t it always feel good when you pick up a cowardly cyber stalker who uses your name?”
no
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:04 pm
MAKE CHICKEN SOUP, NOT WAR
MAKE PRETTY CERAMICS, NOT WAR
MAKE BBQ CHICKEN PIZZA, NOT WAR
MAKE A DOG HOUSE, NOT WAR
@@
March 22nd, 2011
6:04 pm
josef:
I’m embarrassed to say I’ve not yet finished your book. Life’s been happenin’ in my world, what with folks dyin’ n all.
Anyhoo, what I have read puts me in mind of Scout’s narrative in “To Kill A Mockingbird”.
Pogo
March 22nd, 2011
6:04 pm
And what about Obama’s Brazillian visit? He goes there to offer American support in their offshore oil drilling operations and meanwhile, him and his EPA stymy any attempt on offshore drilling in the US (which is costing us hundreds of thousands of jobs) and ironically, he did this under the guise of “job creation” for Americans. What he really was down there for was to talk Brazil into buying up some of our national debt because now that Japan is unable to do it, he had to find another convenient “partner” to do it (or monetary patsy, if you will). He has no intention of curtailing our spending. He only wants another international “enabler” to continue it.
And what about those beloved American corn ethanol tarriffs? Obama is more than willing to throw them (and the heavily subsidized farmers in the Midwest) away for Brazil and their sugar cane produced ethanol market just to buy our debt. I don’t believe in the anti-christ thing but the thinking behind it is pretty much sound. If you have someone that promises you everything, whether they can deliver or not, then most likely the uninformed/biased will follow them and Obama is, if nothing more, a promiser. For those that believe in the anti-christ, rest assured, Obama is most certainly not that. He is not that smart. Obama has no real substance at all and his only real belief is in himself. It really is surprising that so many intelligent people are willing to continue to support Obama even though they must know in their heart of hearts, they have elected a loser. I can now understand how Hitler and Mussolini and any number of unsavory political characters in world history have come to power. They just promised to solve all of societies problems in a very convincing way, just as Obama did but unfortunately, our children are going to pay the price for this fools dreams of self-grandeur.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:05 pm
“We will continue to support the actions against Libya but we will not be in the lead.” – President Obama from El Salvador.
Who’s gonna lead and why the hell did we move our fleet, shoot off a couple hundred million dollars worth of Tomahawks, lose an F-15 and god only knows what else?
Our POTUS is a complete buffoon.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:07 pm
@@
Don’t be embarassed…you’ve had a lot on your plate…besides, you bought it and that’s what matters, eh? But thanks for the Scout reference…at first I thought you mean OUR Scout…had to do a second take! ISH
Paulo977
March 22nd, 2011
6:09 pm
josef
“gives us Jews a break…” There’s always a positive side to things!!
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:11 pm
@Kamchak: I have wondered for a while what a Kamchak was lol, so I finally did a google. Is your handle in fact from the books about the world of Gor? If so, (I know a REALLY stupid question) are they any good? I love science fiction/fantasy and need some good books to read. I see they are up to 26. It’s not a Robert Jordon type thing where the author got fond of his own voice and died before he could finish the series is it?
Mark T
March 22nd, 2011
6:14 pm
I love it…shoe is on the other foot, and nobody wants to talk about…Libs/Lefts credibility goes right out the window
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:14 pm
Dave R.
Well, it’s THEIR religion ! You’re not very tolerant.
By the way, we sacrifice thousands each day to the “ABORTION GOD”.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:15 pm
Here’s one thing Obama did well. He needs to stick with this and live in Vegas.
Feel terrible about the state of your bracket after the first weekend of the NCAA Tournament? Don’t worry, we all do. But one person that doesn’t is President Barack Obama, leader of the free world and, apparently, bracket expert. Obama’s bracket is one of the nation’s best ahead of the Sweet Sixteen, in the 99.9th percentile in ESPN’s bracket challenge. For a man many say is too busy to enjoy as much college basketball as the rest of us, it’s an impressive feat, to say the least.
Obama nailed the West region in his bracket, correctly picking Duke, Arizona, Connecticut and San Diego State to make it to the Sweet Sixteen. In the Southeast, he lost one of his Final Four teams as Pittsburgh fell to Butler while also missing on Wisconsin. The Southwest region is a mess, just like the rest of the nation’s — even Obama couldn’t predict Richmond, VCU and Florida State making the Sweet Sixteen. Finally, the East region was near-perfect, with only Marquette spoiling Obama’s chance at perfection in the region.
In total, Obama has 490 points in the ESPN bracket challenge thus far, earning him bragging rights in the college basketball world. Meanwhile, my own bracket is on fire and a heaping mess after the first two rounds. You can check out our Sweet Sixteen predictions to get a handle on the next two rounds, or it may be safer to just follow Obama’s at this point.
http://seattle.sbnation.com/washington-huskies/2011/3/21/2064578/obamas-bracket-espn-bracket-challenge-score-ncaa-bracket
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:15 pm
Anyone seen Owl Gore?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:16 pm
Judge orders use of Islamic law in Tampa lawsuit over mosque leadership
http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/article1158818.ece
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:17 pm
Soothsayer:
You’re not paying attention. I told you yesterday you had that “tree thing” backwards. Right josef?
“Among the signs of the approach of Day of Judgment is what the messenger of Allah PBUH said: “The hour of judgment shall not happen until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Muslims shall kill the Jews to the point that the Jew shall hide behind a big rock or a tree and the rock or tree shall call on the Muslim saying: hey, O Muslim there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him ….”
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:18 pm
President Moron
As a presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) emphatically stated that the Constitution does not give the president the authority to unilaterally authorize a military attack unless it is needed to stop an actual or imminent attack on the United States.
Obama made the assertion in a Dec. 20, 2007 interview with the Boston Globe when reporter Charlie Savage asked him under what circumstances the president would have the constitutional authority to bomb Iran without first seeking authorization from Congress.
“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,” Obama responded.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:18 pm
WOW:
I posted that earlier. The libs. don’t care.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
6:19 pm
WOW, remember our discussion about off-topic spamming?
Last warning.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:20 pm
“I posted that earlier. The libs. don’t care.’
No, not until 2012 when Obama is shown the door.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
6:21 pm
Fred
Yes, Kamchak was the only worthwhile character in that multi tome opus.
The series really goes off the rails early on.
My favorite books are by Roger Zelazny particularly the Amber series.
If you haven’t read E.R. Burroughs’ Tarzan of the Apes, do so. Hollywood never even came close to capturing that love story.
David Eddings has two or three very good series.
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:21 pm
Uh, thanks, Scout, uh, I guess? I’ll make a note of that.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:21 pm
“Last warning.”
Well, I figured since the topic was about presidential candidates, Obama was in range of the topic.
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:21 pm
So why did scout change his name anyways?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:23 pm
Scout
Now, now…that’s not ALL Jews…just the uppity ones! And as Sophie would say, kiss my tuchus and plant a tree for Israel!
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:24 pm
It seems I recall we wuz discussin’ the war last night.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:24 pm
Jay, when will you discuss the topic of Obama’s broken promises to America?
Jean Louise Dell'Aquila
March 22nd, 2011
6:25 pm
The judic-christian does not convert he subverts…were you to be given a thousand years of life yet would you return to Allah. Think not o hypocrites sad u see pharisees that your king shares anything with a rabbi. He sits me myself and I. Mightily he walks stalks balks before the Muslim.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:25 pm
BRUIN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITeuaqcpckc
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:26 pm
Thanks Kam, I’ll avoid it based on what you wrote lol. And so I don’t get warned for off topic spam………
I don’t care for Herman Cain. I WANTED to, I listened to him when he filled in for Boortz and then tried when he had his own show, but he just doesn’t seem very bright. I don’t find him intellectually honest either. He’s a straight Republican party kind of guy. Never take a step out of bounds and of course, unlike Jesus, he wants to rule in god’s name……..
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:27 pm
“BRUIN”
Who is BRUIN?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:27 pm
“I don’t find him intellectually honest either. He’s a straight Republican party kind of guy. ‘
So who DO you consider “intellectually honest, Fred?
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:28 pm
Ah just thank Gawd Almighty we got the Sheriff riding herd on this here cattle drive!
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:29 pm
Fred:
I changed my handle (feel free to call me Scout or worse) so I could find my posts faster when I scrolled around.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
6:29 pm
“Well, it’s THEIR religion ! You’re not very tolerant.”
Their right to a religious practice ends when life, liberty or property of another is jeopardized, Scout.
“By the way, we sacrifice thousands each day to the “ABORTION GOD”.”
Sorry, I’m not buying that one.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:29 pm
Speaking of broken promises — Where are the half-trillion dollar savings from eliminating fraud and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid? They’re supposed to make Obamacare deficit neutral.
godless heathen
March 22nd, 2011
6:30 pm
“Funny, I don’t remember seeing that in the Constitution. Better not tell the Jews that.”
Or us atheists.
How many followers does it take to qualify as a “religion” as opposed to a “cult”. Is there a number? Websters defines cult: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents.
Who gets to say what is orthodox besides the orthodox? All religions have some pretty whacky rituals and superstitions in my belief.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
6:31 pm
“Who is BRUIN?”
Our affectionate name for our host.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:31 pm
Enter your comments here
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
6:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl2fONPgIJE
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:32 pm
Jay:
Since you’re here what are your thoughts on my 5:07 and in particular my 5:46 ???
Mark T
March 22nd, 2011
6:33 pm
Wow, dont you know thats what the left does?…If its something they cant defend, they just shut down the conversation
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:33 pm
“Our affectionate name for our host.”
Does not compute.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
6:34 pm
“Judge orders use of Islamic law in Tampa lawsuit over mosque leadership”
Sorry, WOW, but not quite the same as the headline implies. He’s ruling between two competing Islamic interests in a mosque disagreement. So he’s hoisting them on their own petard, as it were.
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:34 pm
Jay, does that mean we cain’t talk about canine flatulence no more? What about a’r freshners?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:34 pm
“f its something they cant defend, they just shut down the conversation’
Or blame it on Bush, Palin, Limbaugh, Cain, Rove, Cheney, Boortz or Gingrich.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:34 pm
Dave R.
I know you’re not but I believe God is. Someday we will know for sure.
“Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you”
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:34 pm
WOW, you ********* he’s a UCLA Bruin!
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:35 pm
Certainly not you WOW. I’m being totally honest when I say I doubt you can even comprehend what the words intellectually honest mean. You are a rigth wing fanatic. You quote whatever the Republican party line is no matter how insipid it was. If you were a left wing fanatic, you would quote those morons Michael Moore and Ariana Huffington (with a little Whoopie Goldberg thrown in) to us. What else can I say? You wouldn’t listen to it anyways.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:36 pm
Dave R.
P.S.
“Snake Handling” services are illegal in all states except ………….. Tennessee …………….
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:36 pm
“WOW, you ********* he’s a UCLA Bruin!”
You what? Come on Sooth, say it. UCLA Bruin? Huh, I didn’t know Jay went to UCLA.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:37 pm
What is the American exit strategy from Libya Mr. President?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:37 pm
Hillbilly
(By the way…he ain’t misplaced…gone to Publix to get a chicken…)
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
6:38 pm
Sometimes some of us (and usually me – with an occasional assist from josef) find a way to express our consternation at our host’s sometimes – misguided – assertions.
As Jay is the final arbiter of who and what stays on his blog, our expression of displeasure is sometimes referred to as “poking the Bruin” (or bear) through the bars of his cage.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
6:39 pm
You mean more of your bigotry, Scout?
No, I have no comment. It is what it is.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:39 pm
“I’m being totally honest when I say I doubt you can even comprehend what the words intellectually honest mean.”
In other words, you have no clue and instead divert attention away from the fact that you haven’t a clue.
“You quote whatever the Republican party line is no matter how insipid it was. ‘
LOL!!!!! Right, and this morning you also claimed that I am on welfare.
“If you were a left wing fanatic, you would quote those morons Michael Moore and Ariana Huffington”
Divert divert divert
“What else can I say? You wouldn’t listen to it anyways.’
Let’s see: Fred calls me stupid, claims that I am on welfare and then goes off on some rant about Michael Moore.
Fred, you got issues.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:40 pm
“You mean more of your bigotry, Scout?”
Wow.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:40 pm
Nyunh hyunh
He’s an Ole Miss Rebel Black Bear!
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
6:40 pm
““Snake Handling” services are illegal in all states except ………….. Tennessee ”
That’s because some in Tennessee use them for other than worshipping “services’, if you know what I mean . . .
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:41 pm
“He’s an Ole Miss Rebel Black Bear!’
Who is?
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:42 pm
Yee how! Boy if ‘is don’t git ya, nuthin’ will
@@
March 22nd, 2011
6:42 pm
No doubt!
Why Obama isn’t pushing for Yemen president to go: Al Qaeda
Obama wants Libya’s Qaddafi out, and he pushed hard for Egypt’s Mubarak to exit. Not so Yemen’s Saleh, president for 33 years. The difference: US concern about Al Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula.
From the comment section:
Also, time has come for us to select Arabs masses of 150 million people and their resources including Oil or 5 million Israelis and their illegal and brutal 40-years old occupation, liability and inhumane daily killings of innocents using American arms and political help.
5 million Jews…that’s 1 million short of the number who died in the Holocaust.
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:42 pm
I stand corrected
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:43 pm
Thank you for proving my point WOW. You are certainly a peach. I see I am pig wrestling………..
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:43 pm
“Thank you for proving my point WOW. You are certainly a peach. I see I am pig wrestling………..’
Fred seriously needs medical attention.
godless heathen
March 22nd, 2011
6:44 pm
“atheism, it’s just the religion of no religion”
The on-line edition of Websters that I use provides four definitions for “religion”. Atheism doesn’t fit any of them.
a : the state of a religious b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2
: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3
archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:44 pm
“I see I am pig wrestling………..”
So you’re into that kind of thing, huh. Well it is legal in Alabama.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:44 pm
What does “victory” mean in Libya Mr. President?
On your way home from South America why don’t you land Air Force 1 in Egypt and then drive over to Libya to campaign?
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:46 pm
Just damn Soothsayer, how do you even BEGIN a search for something like that video lol?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:46 pm
“What does “victory” mean in Libya Mr. President?”
It means Kansas wins the NCAA tourney.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:47 pm
Fred
Who do you find intellectually honest?
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:47 pm
Fred, what are a rednecks last words? “Hey, watch ‘is shee-uht!”
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:49 pm
Yeah soothsayer, but the funny thing is after those words, IF he survives? You can get him to do it again by saying, “Bet you ain’t got the balls to do THAT again…….”
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
6:49 pm
“I see I am pig wrestling………..”
“Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.”
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:49 pm
What are a libs last words?
“Hey, watch me drop 10 hits of acid.”
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:50 pm
“Do not argue with an idiot.”
Ah yes, more name calling by the left.
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:50 pm
Fred, you know what the old farmer said when the bug hit his windshield going 60 miles per hour? “I’ll bet you ain’t got the guts to do that again!”
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:51 pm
What are a libs last words?
“Watch me pass this 18 wheeler in my SMART car.”
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:51 pm
Is the situation stable in Bahrain Mr. President?
Is The United States prepared to support the opposition in Iran overtly Mr President?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:53 pm
Smeat
I wouldn’t be surprised if France accidentally attacks Britain in a firefight. This whole “war” is total chaos. No one knows what’s going on.
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:54 pm
Doggone: Something similar. To wrestle with a pig you have to get down and roll around in the pig crap. And the pig likes it.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:54 pm
@@
Yemen? He better get that DADT thingie worked out before he sends troops in to prop up that regime…they execute “those people” there…but, hey, what’s a few dead homos among friends, eh? ISH
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:54 pm
Jay an Ole Miss Rebel? Who’da thunk it?
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:54 pm
I wonder if WOW/SMEAT knows that Jay can see the ip’s of the posters?
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:55 pm
If revolution happens in Saudi Arabia will The United States be prepared to support the monarchy by authorizing the use of military forces to secure and protect vital American national security interests?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:56 pm
“I wonder if WOW/SMEAT knows that Jay can see the ip’s of the posters?”
What does it matter, Fred?
Again, who do you find intellectually honest? Or are you gonna divert by calling me a pig, stupid and then suggest that I am on welfare.
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:56 pm
LOL Sooth, he’s a Yankee who graduated from Penn.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:56 pm
WOW
@ 6:41
Our Scalawag host…! (poke, poke!)
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:57 pm
Fred, I’m glad you’re here. I stumbled across this just today. Here is a 3kW (big enough to power most homes) concentrated solar sterling engine power generation unit that you could very easily have installed in your back. Friends, if you want a glimpse into the future, this is it.
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:58 pm
Who you WOW? I’m not going to read or reply to your posts. You add absolutely zero to the conversation. I actually want the 10 seconds of my life back that it took to type this post…….
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
6:58 pm
Well, just damn! Somebody’s pulling one of my legs.
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:59 pm
Don’t have time to read it now Sooth, but I bookmarked it. Thanks.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:59 pm
FRED
He ain’t a Yankee by blood…he’s descended from slave owners in the Old Dominion…
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:59 pm
later
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:59 pm
“I’m not going to read or reply to your posts.”
You just did.
“You add absolutely zero to the conversation. I actually want the 10 seconds of my life back that it took to type this post…….’
LOL
Again: Who do you find intellectually honest? It really is a simple question.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:59 pm
why would I care if Jay sees my IP?
duh… wanna use the da internet,? An administrator has to wurk it dude.
When someone starts talking death threats or hack threats then they trigger the beast.
Jay lets people speak here. That’s why his blog smashes the others on ajc.com.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:00 pm
“later”
Fred Translator 2000: He is incapable of answering a simple question and therefore has to divert by using childish rhetoric.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
7:03 pm
Fred, important correction:
Penn STATE.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
7:03 pm
Libya: Six injured as US team botches rescue of downed airmen
Libyans said US helicopter came in with guns firing, creating panic and wounding onlookers after F-15E Strike Eagle crash
BUT:
Reporters said the villagers had showed no animosity after the incident; instead, they expressed gratitude for the US-led coalition, which they said had saved them from massacre by Gaddafi’s forces.
AMAZING!
Perhaps they would understand after watching Black Hawk Down.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
7:05 pm
“Don’t get into a pi$$ing contest with a guy who drinks beer bongs all day long” — Sun Tzu, 500 B.C.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
7:07 pm
@@ – supposedly that video was on the net earlier but has been scrubbed somehow by someone.
F. Sinkwich
March 22nd, 2011
7:07 pm
So Jay can’t stand a conservative black man. I’m shocked.
Uncle Tom !!
Please, Jay, tell us all about the positive influence Muslim immigrants have had on France and the UK — how they assimilate and all.
And doesn’t the Koran teach that lying to infidels (non-Muslims) is an acceptable and desirable Muslim practice?
Imam: “We are a religion of peace.”
My a$$.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
7:08 pm
josef:
Among friends?
You my homoboy! Well, mine and Unmentionable’s.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
7:10 pm
What good will come from our attack on Libya Mr. President?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
7:10 pm
okay, just for the fun of it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IbQgeWY3Fk
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
7:11 pm
Penn State–now that’s more like it!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:15 pm
“So Jay can’t stand a conservative black man. I’m shocked.’
Remember when the left was crying racism when conservatives wouldn’t support Obama?
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
7:16 pm
You know, as I understand it, you can’t have a car on campus your freshman year at Penn State. But, they will let you bring your tractor!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:16 pm
“Penn STATE.”
And UCLA? And OLE MISS?
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
7:16 pm
When and where is Khalid Sheik Mohammed going on trial Mr. President?
From Wiki:
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, on March 1, 2003, by the Pakistani ISI, possibly in a joint action with agents of the American Diplomatic Security Service, and has been in U.S. custody since that time.
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
7:17 pm
Sorry Jay. UP is the Ivy league GOOD school and Penn State is the one with the football team. My bad.
Damn wife, calls me upstairs and then gets on the phone………..
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:17 pm
“But, they will let you bring your tractor!’
Sounds a lot like U of Bama.
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
7:20 pm
“Damn wife, calls me upstairs and then gets on the phone……”
Hope you didn’t waste a blue pill! Don’t wait 4 hours, call the doctor!
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
7:20 pm
yeah, WOW, all those schools. I’m a regular Sarah Palin.
Not.
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
7:21 pm
Josef: That was SO sacrilegious and so damn funny. You are going to rot in 4 out of 5 hells for that.
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
7:21 pm
Call the doctor hell, I’m gonna call every woman I know…….
Jay's alter ego
March 22nd, 2011
7:21 pm
“I can see Alabama from my office window!”
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
7:22 pm
Enter your comments here
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:24 pm
“yeah, WOW, all those schools. I’m a regular Sarah Palin.”
Whaaaaaaaaa? Jay, josef said that you are an Ole Miss black bear and someone else said that you are a UCLA bruin.
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
7:25 pm
Jonix: that Buddha has a “nice pair!”
F. Sinkwich
March 22nd, 2011
7:25 pm
“Remember when the left was crying racism when conservatives wouldn’t support Obama?”
Yep, they still do.
I guess if they don’t support Cain, then they’re racists too.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
7:26 pm
Is the Lockerbie bomber jerk dead from his “cancer” yet Mr. President?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:27 pm
“I guess if they don’t support Cain, then they’re racists too.”
Someone earlier called Cain an uncle tom.
F. Sinkwich
March 22nd, 2011
7:29 pm
Did Jay just do another knock on Sarah Palin?
I guess he doesn’t appreciate a woman who’s smarter than he is.
Jay, channel some Helen Ready…….
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:30 pm
“Did Jay just do another knock on Sarah Palin?”
Yep, ain’t that funny.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
7:31 pm
Found this recent picture of our host…
http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2011/03/01/heres-a-first-look-at-the-new-mississippi-mascot-rebel-black-bear/
But I hear al Qaaida is out to get him…he pushed out Admiral Ackbar to get there…
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
7:32 pm
Didn’t Bush and Gadhafi settle our differences on Halloween, 2008 Mr. President?
Under the agreement, Libya pays more than $500 million to settle remaining claims from the Lockerbie case and more than $280 million for victims of the disco bombing. It will also set aside funds to compensate victims of several other incidents blamed on Libya, although Libya has not accepted responsibility.
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-31/world/libya.payment_1_disco-bombing-moammar-gadhafi-lockerbie-case?_s=PM:WORLD
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 22nd, 2011
7:34 pm
Well, I see this blog ain’t gone nowhere. But I sure want to be retired some day like WOW so I can blog all day and all night. Life ain’t fair. Me, I got to blog on breaks and when I’m home and such. WOW just cuts loose anytime he wants to. Sometimes he gets in three in a row before anybody else can get a word in.
Have a good night everybody. And drink more beer. It’s good for my job and 401k and if you drink hard enough I’ll be butting heads with WOW for blog time pretty soon.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:35 pm
As a Penn St. grad, Jay must be really happy to see O. State’s ball coach get suspended for five games next season.
F. Sinkwich
March 22nd, 2011
7:36 pm
My bad, Reddy……
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:36 pm
“Sometimes he gets in three in a row before anybody else can get a word in.’
I’m fast like that.
Pogo
March 22nd, 2011
7:38 pm
Exactly Josef. As I always knew, you are good. You see.
Jack
March 22nd, 2011
7:40 pm
I don’t lose any sleep worrying about Catholics or Methodists bombing us.
F. Sinkwich
March 22nd, 2011
7:44 pm
“As a Penn St. grad, Jay must be really happy to see O. State’s ball coach get suspended for five games next season.”
If he was a Muslim, or black, or on food stamps, or homeless, or here illegally, or drove a Prius, or was a union member, or voted for the Obama, he’d be outraged!
Errant Hypocrisy Makes Bill Sad | The Evil Eyebrow
March 22nd, 2011
7:45 pm
[...] or a hypocrite. There’s no middle ground. About eight seconds after posting this, I read this This entry was posted in Opinion, Politics. Bookmark the permalink. ← Georgia Marathon [...]
F. Sinkwich
March 22nd, 2011
7:46 pm
“I don’t lose any sleep worrying about Catholics or Methodists bombing us.”
How insensitive.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
7:49 pm
JACK
“I don’t lose any sleep worrying about Catholics or Methodists bombing us.”
Good thing you don’t live in Ulster….
Moshe’s walking down the street in Belfast. Somebody grabs him, pulls him in the alleyway and puts a knife to his throat.
“Be ye Catholic or Protestant?”
“Neither. I’m a Jew!”
“All-h be praised, I’m the luckiest Muslim in all of Ireland!”
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
7:51 pm
Okay, let me be fair…the Methodists didn’t take part in any of that sectarian violence in Ireland…
AmVet
March 22nd, 2011
7:51 pm
The role of Muslims in America is not to convert the rest of us to the Muslim religion. That I resent.
Because that purview is reserved solely for you supposed Christians?
That is what I resent.
And as for that Judeo-Christian thing, I’d forget about that group before the hyphen if I were you Mr. Cain.
Unless you make history and become the first neo-con in America to get a sizable percentage of the MOT vote.
And I’d venture that the odds are better that wow posts 10,000 times this week before that happens…
@@
March 22nd, 2011
7:52 pm
How often do I come in here having no idea what everyone’s talking about?
Like now for example.
RW, if you stop by.
Was Washington State an E.R. doctor in the Pacific Northwest?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
7:54 pm
Would y’all quit knockin WOW’s prodidgeous posting…he can outpost me and that’s not an easy thing to do…give the boy his credit…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:54 pm
“And I’d venture that the odds are better that wow posts 10,000 times this week before that happens…”
For someone who claims that I am “obsessed” you sure do write a lot about me, Vet. As for 10,000, who cares?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
7:55 pm
@@
Why should you know what we’re talking about…we don’t…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:55 pm
“Would y’all quit knockin WOW’s prodidgeous posting…he can outpost me and that’s not an easy thing to do…give the boy his credit…”
MAN!!!!! I ain’t no boy, josef. Anyway, the only folks who are concerned with how much I type are the left wingers. I haven’t heard a peep out of the right about about much I post.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
7:55 pm
AmVet:
That is what I resent.
Nobody’s trying to win you over…certainly not ME. You’re a lost cause in more ways than one.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:56 pm
“the Methodists didn’t take part in any of that sectarian violence in Ireland”
Did the Presbyterians or Baptists?
RW-(the original)
March 22nd, 2011
7:56 pm
@@,
What great timing. I believe he was acquainted with the medical profession, but most likely as a mental patient.
F. Sinkwich
March 22nd, 2011
7:56 pm
“Unless you make history and become the first neo-con in America to get a sizable percentage of the MOT vote.”
Another nonsensical post from the resident commie.
Yawn.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:57 pm
@@
You hit the nail on the head with that last post.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
7:57 pm
@@ If you’re still around…..
You mentioned the movie, “Blackhawk Down”, I’d suggest you read the book if you haven’t. Much more interesting than the movie and the movie wasn’t bad, in my opinion.
Speaking of the Toyota Prius,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
7:58 pm
“Another nonsensical post from the resident commie.”
What’s really ironic is the fact that he knocks “evil Wall Street” yet josef claims that he makes a lot of money off of Wall Street.
Kind of like how Michael Moore knocks the American medical system yet he gets his diabetes medicine from the US Hospital system.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
8:00 pm
“Good thing you don’t live in Ulster”
I had a similar thought
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
8:00 pm
WOW
Shut up on that boy thing…you white!
Baptists…no. Presbyterians…the ringleaders and, in fact “the” Protestants…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
8:02 pm
“Shut up on that boy thing…you white!”
How do you know I’m white, josef? For all you know I could be Hispanic.
“Baptists…no. Presbyterians…the ringleaders ”
But no Southern Baptists.
F. Sinkwich
March 22nd, 2011
8:02 pm
WOW = Words Of Wisdom.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
8:03 pm
“WOW = Words Of Wisdom.”
No, WOW stands for my reaction to the left.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
8:03 pm
RW:
Thanks! I stumbled on a blog called “Movin’ Meat” where the host worked in E.R., the Pacific Northwest.
At times I wonder…or wander, if you will.
(ISH)
josef:
I’m gonna take this opportunity to read your book.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
8:03 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
8:05 pm
Tock…tock…tock….
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
8:05 pm
WOW = Way Out West
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
8:05 pm
AmVet
Lessee what happens if Cantor gets top of the ticket! (JK)
Nonsensical post? I’d say not…but me and AmVet have been down that road on opposite sides before!
And he’s not a communist…he’s a capitalist running dog of the conspiracy of international zionist bankers…jeeeze don’t you EVER read the memos?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm
“WOW = Way Out West”
Cowboy, baby!
AmVet
March 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm
Fortunately, based on what I just read at the top of this thread, I’ve read little else of Mr. Cain’s “brilliance”.
But I really do hope he runs for something more than dogcatcher, so I can enjoy what certainly will be the forthcoming clips of some classic right wing talk radio gibberish he hosted.
So stinkwich, you want some figures? Some data? Some facts? Or is that like showing a cross to a vampire and you’ll scream out in pain?
It’s OK your streak of not learning anything this year is safe! (IF you don’t read on!)
Does the number 18.4% mean anything to you?
That’s the combined MOT voting percentage for the past five GOP prez candidates.
Which I believe was about the same approval rating your boy George had when he left office.
LOL….
RW-(the original)
March 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm
I second Hillbilly D’s recommendation. The movie does a nice job of illustrating the scene, but the book puts you right there. Same thing goes for The Perfect Storm.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm
josef nix
Why are you the one who has to explain what AmVet is?
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm
WOW – take your pick: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/WOW
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
8:07 pm
“Which I believe was about the same approval rating your boy George had when he left office.
Boy George was in office?
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:07 pm
Personally, I have found the most intellectual honesty in peer-reviewed papers that I’ve read.
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
8:08 pm
Who?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
8:09 pm
Doggone/GA
I like “World of Words.”
Seems to fit me.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
8:10 pm
@@
Oh, well, propaganda there, propaganda here! ISH
WOW
Pues, pode ser..meles ladino?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
8:12 pm
WOW
“Why are you the one who has to explain what AmVet is?”
Cause we’re in the same boat together…
And besides, I like him…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
8:13 pm
Pues, pode ser..meles ladino? translates to: As prune to be scrum crafty?
Try again, josef.
AmVet
March 22nd, 2011
8:14 pm
josef, hysterical isn’t it? I show up, make a post and the Humpties goes Dumpty over me.
I resent that! LOL…
These pseudo-Christians, couldn’t get a drowning man to go to their church.
Ike got 40% of the Hebe vote. And it has all been way downhill since…
Like I said, extremely sensitive BS detectors…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
8:17 pm
“And besides, I like him…’
Well, I guess even the vilest of folks can have comrades.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
8:17 pm
WOW
You said you might be Hispanic and I though maybe you might be a passanger on the Ship of Zion!
But you and me better drop it for a few minutes…with BOTH of us posting, nobody else will have the change of a prayer in h3ll of getting a word in edgewise…
@@
March 22nd, 2011
8:18 pm
josef, hysterical isn’t it? I show up, make a post and the Humpties goes Dumpty over me.
Nothing to call his own in ^^^ that one.
AmVet
March 22nd, 2011
8:19 pm
Boy George also posts here.
At least since he was permanently banned from Ms. Tucker’s forum for being a racist and bigot. (Cue up @@ screaming “Free Speech!”)
Schnirkle…
Rock on, bro jo.
Maybe we’ll play some Matisyahu for the AmVet addicts on Friday night…
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
8:20 pm
Did someone forget that Congress only passed a three week CR?
What’s gonna happen next week when they have to vote for more CRs?
BTW – The deficit ceiling hits in a few weeks too.
And more explosions rock Libya…
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
8:22 pm
AmVet
Thanks for that stat on the Hebes for Ike vote…I had wondered about that…
But you sho do ruffle some folks’s tail feathers!
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
8:24 pm
Cue up @@ and free speech? I’ll be in her corner on that one! I like free speech…
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:25 pm
As for the BMW M3 vs Toyota Prius,
1) No matter how you drive that BMW, you will not get better than its rated hwy mpg of 20 while the Toyota can be driven in a manner that will get you more like 49 mpg hwy (I think that’s the new rating). So, at least the guy in that video was correct in his assertion that fuel mileage is dependent on how one drives. He just failed to provide more than a half truth in order to prove his non-point.
2) The BMW base price is more than double that of the Prius so that’s a lot of differnce to make up under said optimal driving conditions for the BMW and worst case for the Prius.
3) The claims regarding environmental damage is relative. If you are going to go down that path, then one should at least list all the materials used in both vehicles along with all the fuels used in said vehicles over their lives and see how they stack up. After all, walking likely does the least environmental damage but it doesn’t do much good if we must travel more than a few miles to and from work each day or do not have food growing in our yards year round, etc.
The bottom line is that I just don’t have much faith in Herman Cain’s ability to deliver such intellectual honesty so I just could not ever see myself voting for him. How’s that for staying on post while discussing off post.
AmVet
March 22nd, 2011
8:26 pm
Vilest?
That’s a pretty big word for an Aw-burned kid!
The vocabulary of a challenged fifth grader…
No worries, josef. I just show up and it drives the droolers all Pavlovian.
I’d love to stay and taunt the clowns some more, but gotta go.
Somebody has to work and play hard around here!
Peace out…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12qtTuvWQSI
@@
March 22nd, 2011
8:28 pm
AmVet:
(Cue up @@ screaming “Free Speech!”)
You would prefer I take your route…the banning of?
Schnirkle…
Yet again!!??!!
Tweek on.
Schnort!!!!!
jhubers
March 22nd, 2011
8:29 pm
Well said. What could be added, however, is the fact that Mr. Cain hasn’t even bothered to learn anything about his Muslim neighbors, which means that this good Christian man, who claims that his highest calling is to love as Jesus loves, is breaking one of the ten commandments most everytime he speaks about his Muslim neighbors. That’s the one that goes like this: “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” The fact is, Muslims are no more aggressive, in fact, much less aggressive, in their desire to share their faith than Christians. And this nonsense about Muslims being somehow compelled to kill the “infidel” is so off base as to be laughable.
If you truly want to love as Jesus loves, Mr. Cain, stop bearing false witness against your Muslim neighbor.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
8:29 pm
AmVet is such a celebrity he gets own booth at the Waffle House.
Tell Bert I said hello.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
8:29 pm
AmVet
Matisyahu? Why wait for Friday,…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h55P7F8rW8A&feature=related
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:30 pm
Schnort!!!!!
Doctors have made some great advances in treating many sinus conditions. There’s no need to suffer any longer.
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:34 pm
My wife and I keep fighting about sex and money. She charges me too much! I don’t get no respect!
joethepoliceman
March 22nd, 2011
8:35 pm
Herman Cain is not a christian but he’s a black Klu Klux Klans spokesperson.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
8:35 pm
TaxPayer:
How ’bout you keep your nose out of this.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:38 pm
The Ten Commandments are so old testament. The Newer testament opened up the option of being forgiven for one’s sins. It made wars, for example, a whole lot easier to wage.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
8:38 pm
I wonder if President Obama stares at his Nobel Peace Prize when he knows that the US is fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gitmo and Libya.
Donald Trump folds him up like a cheap chair in November 2012.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:39 pm
How ’bout you keep your nose out of this.
Just tryin’ to help you out. There’s no need to get all snooty about it.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
8:41 pm
TaxPayer:
Just tryin’ to help you out.
Not a registered Democrat so there’s really no need.
Thanks just the same.
buck@gon
March 22nd, 2011
8:42 pm
Herman Herman come on over…….
TAG! You’re a racist and a bigot.
Nyah, nyah nyah nyah nyah!
….Jay Bookman just going through his weekly TO DO list.
Don’t we all wish the uh “mainstream press” would turn that microscope to Obama. But no. He’s just “playing the cards he was dealt,” right Jay?
Grob Hahn
March 22nd, 2011
8:43 pm
Calling Mr. Cain an “Uncle Tom” is pure, ignorant racism. Also, equality is not the same as superiority. American Christians long ago learned that they are NOT in charge and that they have no right to convert anyone. Muslims must learn to understand this. As long as they act like religious supremacists they will find friction in the land of the free.
Grobbbbbbb
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
8:43 pm
Doctors have made some great advances in treating many sinus conditions. There’s no need to suffer any longer.
Raw, local honey is the best cure for pollen related sinus conditions.
The only draw back is that it must be consumed on a regular basis several months prior to pollen season.
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:43 pm
“Donald Trump folds him up like a cheap chair in November 2012.”
Just as long as a sudden gust of wind doesn’t come up!
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:45 pm
“Raw, local honey is the best cure for pollen related sinus conditions.”
Amen! The honey “desensitizes” the body from attacking the pollen as invaders.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
8:47 pm
Raw, local honey is the best cure for pollen related sinus conditions.
Nothing original in ^^^ that either.
Advice long ago give by moi!
Kamchak cared, I see.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
8:48 pm
Kamchak
I’d agree with you on the honey. A spoonful a day works pretty good.
Midori
March 22nd, 2011
8:48 pm
Happy 80th Birthday to William “Capt. Kirk” Shatner!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hARDXYz2io&feature=related
@@
March 22nd, 2011
8:49 pm
This is kind of easy…reading and blogging.
“The seventh of September was a very bad day for Mama.”
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
8:50 pm
Since I made it through the day and still love everybody (except Helen Thomas!
) I’ll call it a night while I’m ahead…
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
8:51 pm
Shatner ought to get some kind of lifetime achievement award for chewing scenery.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
8:51 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe
Yep. I generally use biscuits as a delivery device.
Midori
March 22nd, 2011
8:54 pm
aw, come on Hillbilly!!
The Shat is the man!!
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
“Yep. I generally use biscuits as a delivery device.”
Not ‘em ‘ere “cathead” type I hope!
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Midori! How are you!
kayaker 71
March 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Bookman,
It’s never the majority of any movement that causes is the problem. But when the movement goes radical, those in the majority chose to say nothing. It is replete throughout history. Hitler and his followers, at first, were in the minority. Pol Pot and his enforcers were certainly in the minority but chose to kill gazillions of people who they deemed inferior. Do you think that Stalin who killed millions had the country and it’s people behind him? How about Marcos? He was a banana dictator of the first rate but the majority of the people went along because he was in control. The same can be said of Castro, Idi Amin, Charles Taylor, Robert Mugabe, Laurent Kabila, Mao, Pinochet, Manuel Noriega and numerous others throughout history. They were not in control at first but as time went on, they assumed control of a majority who were afraid to speak out. Herman Cain is right. And if we don’t realize this, we are our own worst enemy.
Midori
March 22nd, 2011
8:56 pm
Hi Sooth.
doing good
and you?
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
8:57 pm
Midori – “The Shat is the man!!”
Might I suggest you find out what “shat” is the past tense of….before you settle on it as a nickname? Though Shatner might actually appreciate the humor.
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
8:59 pm
Good night! Everyone. I’m in an especially good mood tonight! Who knew? I’m going to quit while I’m ahead!
Midori
March 22nd, 2011
8:59 pm
LOL – Doggone.
It just sounds cool
“The SHAT!!”
joethepoliceman
March 22nd, 2011
9:02 pm
Remember people, Herman’s last name is Cain. In the bilble, which supposed to be the book of the jews and christians, Cain killed his brother Abel because he was envious of GOD’s acceptance of him. Abel was blessed while Cain was cursed. There is nothing good in envy.
Billybob
March 22nd, 2011
9:02 pm
A few more of these and your far left liberal ‘intellectual superiority’ will be in serious question. I think I could ’squeeze more juice’ out of a pile of sawdust than you did in this weak attempt at squeezing and bashing Cain AND Christianity…….far left sure is scrambling for anything these days……keep it up….
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
9:04 pm
Doggone/GA
Thought about giving that advice earlier to dave then thought, nah let ‘im wallow in his ignorance.
Odd that the filter doesn’t recognize that past tense, though….
Del
March 22nd, 2011
9:05 pm
I heard Herman Cain speak live late last year, he has a lot to say. While I wouldn’t rule him in as the Republican nominee, I wouldn’t rule him out as a possible running mate selection. He has presence with both white and black Evangelical Christians.
Derek
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
HERMAN CAIN IS NOT!!!!! AN ASSOCIATE PASTOR! HE IS NOT EVEN ORDAINED1 HE IS A MINISTER LICESNED TO PREACH THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST!
THE PASTOR OF ANTIOCH BAPTIST CHURCH NORTH IS THE REV. DR. C.M. ALEXANDER!
Producer
March 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
This is a vastly, overwhelmingly Chisitian-identified nation. 80-85% says it all. Don’t like it. Tough. Go Herman!
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
Herman Cain?
Sounds like a drug or a drink.
This blog needs a no lie zone.
Trolls everywhere spewing lies.
Del
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
Billybob, They’re running scared as they know America doesn’t buy into their B.S. What you see on this blog is mostly the aging hippy population and the wannabe’s. Nothing new. Take everything with a grain of salt.
roy
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
Once upon a time, the forefathers invaded and occupied America. Imposed the Judeo-Christian faith on the native Americans. Oops! Judea was a place not a religion and followers of Jesus, Moses,Adam, Eve, Abraham, Mary, Noah, Zacharia, John, Lot, Job, Aaron, Elisha, Jonah,David, Eziekiel, Isiah, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Joseph, Benjamin, Muhammed ,etc.etc ( May Gods peace be upon them all ) Were all Muslims, because they prayed to and worshiped THE ONE and ONLY GOD… The Bible foretells the advent of Muhammed in Genesis 21:13,18. Deuteronomy 18:18 and 33:13, Isaiah 11:1-4, 21:13-17, 42:1-13 and others… The 1st and 2nd Commandment tell of believing in ONE God not three in one , Mary, peace be upon her, did pray to FATHER (God, glory be to him), but not SON (Jesus, peace be upon him, was born 2 thousand years ago of immaculate conception ) and Holy Spirit ( Angel Gabriel, another of Gods creation) she would not commit blasphemy by associating her son(Jesus) and angel Gabriel . She worshiped THE GOD, the one and only, giver and taker of LIFE. Muslims believe in and worship in this SAME, ONE God… As far as 911, It is easy for the Elitists, war mongers, profit makers, greedy owners of weapons, tanks, fighter plane and helicopter companies with the help of our Commander (past) in chief, to create LIES, HATE, blame and animosity towards Arabs and Muslims, so they can easily and illegally go to WAR and kill as many Muslims and Arabs, with the blessings of the American public. Then, control the OIL. The Elitists’ money is in the back pockets of our leaders (THIEVES and liars) that we vote in… Come on People wake up, no one as held you as a prisoner or taken your freedom away. Think about how many muslim countries, we are in and how we have taken their freedom away. How we have destroyed their infrastructure and their lives and for WHAT, only LIES,LIES. So are we not terrorizing them??? These same elitists that run our government and our media, they are constantly spewing hate. Most people buy into this hateful and racist rhetoric and become total IGNORANTS. Educate yourselves, invite a Muslim to your home or go to their home and learn about them, from them, not from their enemies, the religious bigots and racists. After all, all the prophets and messengers of God, as stated above were all Muslims ( Because they worshiped ONE God same as Muslims do). Next time when you see a Christmas play or watch a Biblical movie, you can see the characters dressed in Muslim attire. Muslims don’t change the word of God or Gods rules, they just obey them. The old testament forbids eating of pork, but Majority of Christians consume the flesh of swine, going against Gods rule… May God bless and guide all of humanity to the right path, AMEN ….
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
What kind of Christians attack our President in a time of war and wanted to watch another tyrant slaughter his people?
Marty
March 22nd, 2011
9:23 pm
Presidential timber or not, this redneck white boy sees Herman Cain as a worthy man among men.
godless heathen
March 22nd, 2011
9:23 pm
I love a story with a happy ending.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/22/armed-beauty-queen-fatally-shoots-intruder-florida-home-invasion/
Del
March 22nd, 2011
9:26 pm
Oh well we have an epistle either written over the last several hours or taken from a leftist Web site as a cut and paste. Either way, it’s interesting that someone would even begin to think that anyone would actually read beyond the first few sentences.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
9:27 pm
Raw, local honey is the best cure for pollen related sinus conditions.
The only draw back is that it must be consumed on a regular basis several months prior to pollen season.
Kamchak,
I’ve never tried that remedy for allergies. Do you have first hand experience.
4 Deuce
March 22nd, 2011
9:31 pm
Jay, is this all you have? Really? Dude, get out more.
Del
March 22nd, 2011
9:32 pm
Anyone who knows of a cure for pollen related sinus conditions has something to make me listen up. I don’t care who that poster may be or their politics.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
9:34 pm
Local honey will help with your allergies. It has to be local though, because it’ll be made from the same things that are giving you trouble. Helps your body deal with it.
Mongo
March 22nd, 2011
9:38 pm
Another GOPiggy backbencher, but then again, aren’t they all?
@@
March 22nd, 2011
9:42 pm
Del:
It’s gotta be raw honey, not processed. It slowly introduces the irritants (pollens) into your system thereby building up your tolerance.
Del
March 22nd, 2011
9:42 pm
“Local honey will help with your allergies.”
She says that she has a headache.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
9:44 pm
I’ve heard that the honey must be local and that makes sense but what do you need to do to make sure that the honey was based on pollen[s] that you are allergic to? Do you search for wildflower honey or gather up honey from all sources are do they all contain enough pollen variety to take care of most allergies?
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
9:47 pm
Taxpayer
You can’t be 100% sure what it’s made of, but bees use whatever is easiest for them. Usually they use a lot of different things. If it’s from pretty close to where you live, that greatly increases the odds of it helping you.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
9:51 pm
Del:
She says that she has a headache.
Well…there’s always a local honey.
J/K
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
9:52 pm
“That’s a pretty big word for an Aw-burned kid!
The vocabulary of a challenged fifth grader…”
Auburn is ranked higher than the university you attended, Vet. Oh wait, you didn’t.
Del
March 22nd, 2011
9:55 pm
@@, but my local honey said she has a headache. Oh well off to bed sneezing and a wheezing.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm
“Abel was blessed while Cain was cursed. There is nothing good in envy.”
Obama’s middle name is Hussein. The US took out a Hussein back in 2004. Kind of ironic.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:00 pm
“You said you might be Hispanic and I though maybe you might be a passanger on the Ship of Zion! ”
Not Jewish, josef but my Lord is from the lineage of David.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
10:00 pm
You can’t be 100% sure what it’s made of, but bees use whatever is easiest for them. Usually they use a lot of different things. If it’s from pretty close to where you live, that greatly increases the odds of it helping you.
I’m just glad I’m not allergic to pine pollen.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:01 pm
“Donald Trump folds him up like a cheap chair in November 2012.’
Doubt Americans want a president who’s filed for bankruptcy several times. Plus, America tends to vote for the guy with a full head of hair.
Romney in a landslide.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
10:03 pm
As predicted…two days out.
European Aircraft Carriers Enter the Libyan Theater.
Two European aircraft carriers, the French nuclear-powered Charles de Gaulle (R91) and Italian Giuseppe Garibaldi (551), entered the Libyan theater March 22 as the Western coalition prepared for the fourth day of air and cruise missile strikes against Libya. Their arrival signals that the coalition will soon see a transfer of command from the United States to Europe.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
10:03 pm
Most people aren’t allergic to pine pollen. They’re just more aware of pine pollen because it’s so visible. Oak pollen is a lot worse for allergies.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
10:03 pm
TaxPayer
Yes I have first hand experience.
For years I took OTC allergy meds, and felt terrible.
Still suffer from headaches and minor sniffles, but gone is the sinus swelling.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:04 pm
“Still suffer from headaches and minor sniffles, but gone is the sinus swelling.”
Go to an allergist. There are plenty in the metro area that are great.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
10:04 pm
Trump has a full head of something but it may not be hair. It looks like road kill, to me.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:05 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe
It probably is. The guy can afford everything in the world yet he has the worst fake hair.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
10:07 pm
Don’t need an allergist.
Bayer aspirin and honey is cheaper.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:07 pm
“Bayer aspirin and honey is cheaper.”
Allergy shots will help a lot more than Bayer ever will.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
10:10 pm
Allergy shots will help a lot more than Bayer ever will.
Don’t want any more medicine than aspirin.
Midori
March 22nd, 2011
10:10 pm
LOL — Look at Del: http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/toontalk/files/2011/03/cj032211_color.jpg
Midori
March 22nd, 2011
10:13 pm
I tried allergy shots. I had to take six of them per week (3 in each arm), and it only made me worse. Broke out in hives all over my legs.
Some people can’t take them. And I’m one of them.
Mick
March 22nd, 2011
10:23 pm
I can tell you this straight up, outside of georgia people don’t know what a herman cain is. Some know the herman’s hermits, others know herman munster but I can fam dam guarantee a herman cain draws a blank here in paradise….
DawgDad
March 22nd, 2011
10:31 pm
I’ve often listened to Mr. Cain on the radio and I deeply respect his wisdom and perspective. I see absolutely nothing at all objectionable or disrespectful in his comments.
Imagine for a moment being a member of a comparable-sized Judeo-Christian minority in a Muslim country. Or China. Or Russia.
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
10:33 pm
Here is the man that changed the world and he was a Muslim:
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/28/5941280-mohamed-bouazizi-the-fruit-vendor-whose-death-may-have-changed-the-arab-world
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
10:33 pm
“Imagine for a moment being a member of a comparable-sized Judeo-Christian minority in a Muslim country. Or China. Or Russia.”
Yes, DawgDad. Now imagine yourself as that minority hearing a candidate for president describing you as Cain described Muslims.
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
10:37 pm
Oops:
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/28/5941280-mohamed-bouazizi-the-fruit-vendor-whose-death-may-have-changed-the-arab-world
Mick
March 22nd, 2011
10:42 pm
I think we are in the throes of the conservative christians last stand. No disrespect intended but that brand is shrinking as the decades roll by…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:45 pm
“I think we are in the throes of the conservative christians last stand.”
Uh huh, and in 2008, the left stated that the GOP was headed the way of the Whig Party and the Democrats would have a stronghold on America for the next 40 years. Oh, and UGA was preseason number one and would also win the national title.
Bottom line: Predictions are meaningless.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:45 pm
“Now imagine yourself as that minority hearing a candidate for president describing you as Cain described Muslims.”
Cain didn’t say anything wrong.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
10:46 pm
“I think we are in the throes of the conservative christians last stand”
It may turn out that the “rapture” so many of them expect won’t play out the way they think it will.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:48 pm
“It may turn out that the “rapture” so many of them expect won’t play out the way they think it will.’
Love it when libs seem to know all about the book they never read.
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
10:48 pm
Yeah, a Muslim changed the world.
Your thoughts good Christians?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:49 pm
“Your thoughts good Christians?’
Sure, MSNBC is about as relevant as Ted Kennedy.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:50 pm
Yeah, Muslims changed the world…..when they flew planes into the WTC, Pentagon etc….
Mick
March 22nd, 2011
10:50 pm
**Predictions are meaningless.**
I guess they are only good when it comes to football, eh? Look, I absolutely could be wrong but there are regions in this country where one can go where there’s less religionista’s..remember in 2050, hispanics will obtain the majority, it will be a brave new world?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:52 pm
“I guess they are only good when it comes to football, eh?”
No not really.
“remember in 2050, hispanics will obtain the majority, it will be a brave new world?’
Cool, if you can predict what will happen in 2050, please pass me the winning lotto numbers.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:52 pm
“there are regions in this country where one can go where there’s less religionista’s”
Yeah, your point?
Mick
March 22nd, 2011
10:54 pm
wow
You are the king of snark..it’s a real turnoff..so good night and don’t let the bed bugs bite..
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
10:55 pm
“You are the king of snark”
Only to the left.
“.it’s a real turnoff’
Sorry, you’re not my type.
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
10:59 pm
A Muslim wow.
Do you even know what I am talking about?
killerj
March 22nd, 2011
11:03 pm
I,d like a second opinion,tell you what Jay,will send you to any town in Iran and see what there opinion is of christian,s that way we can get both sides of the story,are you game?
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
11:04 pm
Guess wow is using the google.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
11:05 pm
“see what there opinion is of christian”
I see…you think we should be just like them
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
11:07 pm
killerj,
The movement has reached Iran and that theocracy might be history after a long battle.
Should we be good Christians and help them or watch them be slaughtered?
MMA
March 22nd, 2011
11:12 pm
I don’t know any Muslims who’ve tried to convert me, but I know more than my fair share of Christians and other faiths who have knocked on my door (I’m looking at you, Jehovah’s Witnesses) trying to convert me. Is Cain going to do anything about them, or is what they’re doing okay, because apparently we’re a “Judeo-Christian nation?”
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
11:13 pm
MMA,
I have fun with the Mormons.
Ask them how many wives they have and if there are beckers.
Old Physics Teacher
March 22nd, 2011
11:15 pm
You guys are right; it wasn’t the evangelicals and “Christians” who flew the planes into the Twin Towers…
These people only want to keep us from buying alcohol on the weekend and make sure none of our wimmen get any abortions, and make sure every government meeting starts with The Lord’s Prayer, and make sure none of ‘those people’ read from the Torah’s at any meeting – you know they killed Christ, don’t cha?
You’re right; we don’t have anything to fear from those good folks – it’s only those whacko Muslims that are a danger to our freedoms.
Someone once said something about taking care of the beam in your own eye before complaining about the sawdust in your “brother’s.” Maybe someone here that actually reads rather than only watches the boob-tube could give you chapter and verse?
Jimbo
March 22nd, 2011
11:16 pm
Hey Jay, your panacea of abject equality, tolerance and acceptance will never become a reality. Religions divide people, culture divides people, government divides people, media divides people. Don’t think that you can cram mutual agreement and acceptance to all parties on any topics mentioned above and force them to agree. In fact, the more finger pointing and name calling by the media on polarizing issues, the more entrenched and agitated people become. I can choose to boycott muslim owned businesses, restaurants and services and feel damn good about myself. I don’t need your approval.
getalife
March 22nd, 2011
11:18 pm
Yeah Jimbo,
/Shakes fist at Jay and dang liberal media.
Thulsa Doom
March 22nd, 2011
11:28 pm
My college roommate pranked me one time with the Mormons. He knew I would be home one Friday afternoon drinking beer after finals and so he set up an appointment with the Mormons to come by and see me. I’ld already had a few beers so when they showed up I let them in being the nice guy that I was. Drank another 6-7 beers in front of them and drunkenly debated religion with them till they finally decided I just wasn’t seeing the light.
But seriously I have no qualms towards them. They’re just doing what they think is right and the polite thing to do when they show up is just to say no thanks I wouldn’t be interested. I was just drunk enough that I thought it might be interesting to have them come on in.
I think in Herman’s case his real fear is that a growing Muslim minority would want and demand to live under Sharia law. We’re already seeing this in France and England where Muslim populations are more forceful in their demands for sharia law.
And if the Christian bashers on here think Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are scary then you need to wake the hell up. At least Falwell and Robertson don’t have gays hanged or adulterous women stoned or raped with no repercussions to the rapists. At least they seem to know how sinful their followers are. heck we all do.
Midori
March 22nd, 2011
11:28 pm
LOL,
Getalife: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3NFU0cxEDzU/TR7N5TAi7EI/AAAAAAAABLg/YBhQptQSY6E/s1600/grandpa-simpson-shakes-fist-at-cloud1.jpg
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
11:32 pm
DETROIT—The population of Detroit has fallen back 100 years.
This is what liberalism does to a city.
Thulsa Doom
March 22nd, 2011
11:42 pm
Old physics teacher,
A few things for you to note. First of all yeah. Some Christians don’t want us buying alcohol on Sunday- not the whole weekend. Secondly, I suspect in Georgia that will change soon. In a bible state like Alabama you can buy beer in B’ham on Sunday and on the gulf coast also. One thing you didn’t mention is that in most Muslim countries you can’t buy alcohol period. Funny that you didn’t mention that.
Point 2- Abortion is legal in this country- has been for almost 40 years and let’s be honest about it- it always will be most likely. Abortion is not legal in most if not all Muslim countries to my knowledge.
Thirdly I don’t see anybody advocating that every govt meeting start with a prayer. Sure it happens in a lot of small town meetings and even state legislatures. But is it really impugning someone else’s rights if the overwhelmingly Christian govt leaders at the meeting want to take 30 seconds for a prayer? I mean really. Is it really going to damage someone? If I’m in Saudi Arabia working as a foreigner do you really think I’m going to be offended if the Saudis start a meeting with a prayer to Allah?
And your last point about Jews. Gimme a break. Do you really think Christians are just a hating and wanting to kill Jews? Seriously? We have Islamic leaders and religious Imams every day calling for the exterminatin of Israel. Its a matter of darn policy for some states such as Iran or did you not know that.
Put the physics book down and learn some current events sir. Your comparison between Christians and Islam is ridiculous and competely lacking in scale and perspective.
Midori
March 22nd, 2011
11:48 pm
The population of the US has fallen back 100 years.
This is what Conservatism does to a country.
Jimbo
March 22nd, 2011
11:48 pm
Hey Getalife, when you’re done getting your food stamps and other government handouts, and the batteries die in your remote control so you can’t watch t.v., educate yourself by reading readily available journals at the library for free and try and comprehend why europe’s socialist governments are crumbling financially, and why social integration is a failure (muslim), Check France’s latest statements on muslims.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
11:51 pm
“UNCLE MOHAMMAD” ???
Jay says: “You mean more of your bigotry, Scout? No, I have no comment. It is what it is.”
Well, well Mr. Jay, since both of the posts I made were simply quotes from Muslim Dr. Jasser, (who recently testified before the House Committee on Homeland Security) I guess that makes “him” the bigot.
FOR YOUR PERSONAL EDIFICATION, I WILL POST HIS QUOTES AGAIN:
MUSLIM Dr. Zuhdi Jasser :
1) “says his faith harbors ‘an insidious supremacism’ “.
2) Wants “Muslim leaders to aggressively oppose a ‘culture of separatism’.”
3) Wants “clerics to disavaow scripture that belittles non-Muslims and women”.
4) Wants “clerics to renounce a role for Islam in government”.
NOW MR. JAY,:
1) DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF HIS POSITIONS?
2) OR IS HE AN “UNCLE MOHAMMAD” ?
AMERICAN ISLAMIC FORUM FOR DEMOCRACY (http://www.aifdemocracy.org/)
“Help us build capacity in AIFD’s programs that help to reform those ideologies in Islam that create radicalization which in turn threaten our liberty, freedom, and democracy. Please take action and donate today.”
THIS IS THE TYPE OF MUSLIM GROUP VS. “CAIR” THAT I CAN SUPPORT !
Jimbo
March 22nd, 2011
11:52 pm
Midori just validated her intellect with a Simpson post. Go Obama! We voted for you because….you’re different.
You Distort/We Deride
March 22nd, 2011
11:53 pm
I strongly urge that we immediately begin opening internment camps in each and every state of the nation in order to segregate the Muslim-Americans from the rest of us and perhaps to discourage more Muslims from entering America with the express purpose of wanting to live and work here.
I am convinced by the incredible rhetoric of WOW and Thulsa amongst others who have successfully swayed me into believing the imminent and inherent danger each and every Muslim-American poses to the general population of primarily Christian Americans. I fear the babies of Muslim-Americans who will surely grow up next door and eventually attempt to behead their classmates in elementary school and their colleagues in college or the workforce. It’s chilling if you really allow the fear to seep into your system and penetrate your rational mind. Try it sometime Jay. It’s called being an American.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
11:58 pm
Thulsa Doom
March 22nd, 2011
11:42 pm
Excellent post. We need you here more often.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 23rd, 2011
12:02 am
Midori @ 11:48:
Sorry to have to burst your bubble regarding the U.S. vs. Detroit. You need to do your research before you go public – you’re usually smarter than that ……. maybe it’s late and you’re tired.
“Over the past 100 years the US has seen the largest population growth in its history, fuelled by the baby boomers of the postwar years. And its trajectory is to continue to put on numbers steadily through this century,”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/13/usa.topstories3
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
12:05 am
Sorry Midori,
Had to burn one,
I like the one of Homer screaming “Liiiibeeeraals! Hilarious.
Jimbo,
Start reading about the Muslim that lit himself on fire in Tunisia and follow the movement collapsing countries around the Arab world. You will learn something about the world and it is utterly fascinating reading.
You’re welcome.
Jimbo
March 23rd, 2011
12:22 am
Getalife, I could give a flying intercourse about a man who set himself on fire in Tunisia. Will this change world events? Will all of these rise ups mean anything in the stream of time? Nope, they will all be smacked down by an extremist muslim dictator and the martyrdom and cause will be out of the media and mind in 3 to 6 months! And we turn a blind eye because we need oil! I hope he finds his virgins!
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
12:28 am
Jimbo,
You are a con and cons are missing the empathy gene in their dna.
You sound like a good Christian that wanted to watch them get slaughtered on fox news.
Americans can’t just say we are for freedom and not walk the walk.
They want freedom and we should help them.
BTW, the man’s name was Mohamed Bouazizi and he changed our policy of supporting a dictator for “security”.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:29 am
We distort/you deride,
Always got to try to make a point by making an extreme,utterly absurd example such as the one about Muslim children beheading our kids. Anybody can make up with baseless rhetoric and hyperbole- its easy.
Perhaps you didn’t see in the news a week ago about the missing 13 year old who was found by police after running away from home. Her uncle was hiding her from her family. Why you might ask? Because her Pakistani Muslim father had acceptd some money to send her to Pakistan to be a bride in an arranged marriage. Or perhaps you missed that story.
You see you come with emotion based rhetoric. I counter with real life facts and examples.
Last go on now with your assertion that a rising Muslim population is just fine. Go ask Britain and France about all the recent street riots in Muslim enclaves that non-Muslims absolutely dare not enter. Try picking up a newspaper and do some actual reading about the non-assimilating Muslims throughout Western Europe- England, France, Denmark, Germany. The consensus is that the Muslim immigrants are not only not assimilating but are wanting sharia law. As their populations grow does your mind not understand that they are going to demand that the culture they moved to bow to their religious demands? Its happening now.
And about Falwell. He complained about Maplethorpe’s taxpayer funded portrait of a cross in a glass of urine. And you probably thought Falwell was the azzhole. So what happened to that famous Dutch writer who had drawn cartoons making fun of the phrophet Muhammad? Oh. That’s right. He was attacked by a Muslim in broad daylight and quickly bled to death after having his throat slashed so deeply that his head almost came off.
And Salman Rushdie? Still in hiding after 15 years or so for a book and still under a death threat from various Islamic imams. Yeah buddy. Those are the exact kind of immigrants I want coming to America. No thanks. I’ll take the Mexicas instead
ken
March 23rd, 2011
12:32 am
Libya, Japan, oil at $105 a barrel and you talk about tHerman Cain ?????????????? Head in sand ??????????
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:35 am
Sorry but I think it was actually a Danish and not Dutch cartoonist who had his throat slashed in broad daylight on a busy city street. Either way maybe you get the idea about these peace loving Muslims. And yes. I get the idea that the majority of them, especially in this country, are harmless and pro American. But if only 10% of them are the radical type that want Sharia law that’s too many for me. And in various polls and surveys in Britain and France a slight majority of Muslims have indicated they want to live under Sharia law. No thanks.
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
12:36 am
“Those are the exact kind of immigrants I want coming to America. No thanks. I’ll take the Mexicas instead”
White flour!
oooh lawd
March 23rd, 2011
12:37 am
If his numbers are right, it doesn’t even matter come election day. Either way, the role of government is to avoid the matter of religion altogether and I think Herman Cain understands that better than most. I don’t see where his personal opinion matters if he’s running for office unless you’re fairly adamant about your elected leaders subscribing to your own brand of groupthink.
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
12:38 am
Thulsa,
There is a Muslim under your bed.
Do you think you are better than them?
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 23rd, 2011
12:40 am
You Distort/We Deride:
Try this one (written by a woman raised as a Muslim) regarding the future:
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2207/pub_detail.asp
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:41 am
Forgot to mention this but maybe some of you saw the news special- I think it was PBS or Frontline about Muslims in Europe a few nights ago. It showed a French shopkeeper- a woman- who operated a small shop in a neighborhood that turned Muslim in a few years. The woman has been attacked several times for being a Christian in a Muslim neighborhood. In the last attack acid was thrown at her face. Incidentally in many attacks throughout the middle east on women the choice of weaponry is acid. Femininists these Muslims are not. Women might as well be cattle to these Muslim men.
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
12:45 am
“is acid”
Why do you think they call it dope?
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 23rd, 2011
12:46 am
Thulsa Doom:
What is truly amazing is that our liberal friends on here can’t even understand the threat even when told to them BY A MUSLIM !
But ……… we’ll keep trying.
TAPS !
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
12:46 am
How many sock puppets do you have here Scout?
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:47 am
getalife,
Am I better than them Muslims? Depends on what you mean by better. I can tell you this- I treat women with respect and not as chattel or 3rd class citizens. In that one area I will state I am unequivacally better than 99% of the Muslim men out there. And in my religious beliefs my prince didn’t conquer with the sword as Muhammad did. Jesus conquered with peace and love. And I don’t advocate or associate with people who advocate the extermination of a whole group of people- the Jews. So in those regards you’re damn right- I am better in those regards.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:50 am
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
12:45 am
“is acid”
“Why do you think they call it dope?”- getalife
Getalife,
I do wonder if all the Muslim women who are attacked with acid every year think that’s funny? What do you think? Seems you must have missed that 60 minutes special on how frequently this occurs in Islamic countries.
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
12:55 am
Thulsa,
You are a con. You ha te them.Just say it. Don’t play around.
cons are not better than anybody ,
You are fooling yourself.
Don’t get me started on cons.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
12:55 am
1811,
I think they are completely ignorant of what actually goes on. In that same 60 minutes episode they also interviewed and told the story of a young Afghan girl who refused an arranged marriage.
So what happened? 4 men took her and cut off her nose and ears and left her to die. Her own family would not take her in. One uncle helped her and in the 60 minutes special a charity got her surgery for a new nose and ears.
This crap happens routinely and the shame of it is you have people like getalife who are of such a profound ignorance that they don’t read about any of this everyday brutality. Good Grief. They think Jerry freaking Falwell is the bad guy. Truly stupefying.
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
1:03 am
Women are attacked in our country too Thulsa with acid.
cons get drunk and beat their women all the time.
Angry, full of h ate, then add alcohol and they go off.
You think you are better than others?
Now that is funny.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
1:04 am
getalife,
Never said I hate them. You did. Most Muslims, especially the ones in this country, are good, honest, hardworking people who mind their own business and pay their taxes. I’ve absolutely no issue with them. But what I don’t want is for Muslims in this country or for newcomer Muslims to think that they can just live by their own laws and not assimilate. I’ve no need for people that won’t assimilate for the simple reason that I am seeing today the balkanization happening in Western Europe.
I’ll give you a small example that you may remember from last year. Remember in NY city when first one and then a several NY city Muslim cab drivers said they would refuse to transport alcohol if passengers has it in their bags or were carrying it to a party or whatever? What the hell? Even Jerry Falwell wouldn’t tell me I can’t bring my duty free alcohol that I bought in the Bahamas with me on a cab ride home. Who the freak did these clowns think they were trying to impose their morals on alcohol to fare paying passengers. Got news for you getalife. That’s just a start of things to come.
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
1:05 am
At least falwell did not get caught molesting children but you have a priest problem that needs addressed.
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
1:09 am
There will be no Shari law in this country con and take a different cab.
You cons obsess over non issues.
The world is changing.
Pay attention to important reality not whack job thoughts.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
1:11 am
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
1:03 am
Women are attacked in our country too Thulsa with acid.
cons get drunk and beat their women all the time.
Angry, full of h ate, then add alcohol and they go off.
Getalife,
Yes women get abused in every country in the world. Is there something about scale, perspective, and the big picture that you guys just don’t get? How many American women have you ever heard of being attacked with acid? I’m certain its happened somewhere even though I’ve never heard of it.
The simple concept that your mind seems to have a problem grasping is that this happens routinely and with regularity in the Muslim world. And abuse of women happens to a substantially greater degree and if you try to debate that you will be recognized as the biggest fool on the blog today. How many women over here get their noses cut off every day sport?
You need help with your critical thinking skills- especially in terms of scale and proportion.
BUCK
March 23rd, 2011
1:16 am
WHY OH WHY DON’T you& your islame idiots go to iran to live leave us post haste
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
1:17 am
http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/epidemic-of-acid-attacks-on-islamic-women/
Hey getalife,
Got a strong stomach. Check out this link and see various photos of acid attacks on women in just one Muslim country. Also, I tried googling acid attacks on women in the U.S. Couldn’t find anything except an acid attack on a Bethany Storrano. Turns out it was a hoax.
crawdaddy
March 23rd, 2011
1:18 am
Herman is the Bomb. I live in CO and I tell all of my friends about Mr. Cain. He tells it like sees it whether people like it or not.
Thulsa Doom
March 23rd, 2011
1:19 am
Going to bed. Hopefully getalife will educate himself somewhat in the meantime.
getalife
March 23rd, 2011
1:23 am
Acid attacks in the United States.
Google it.
You will learn something.
Sharia law will not happen here. cons are passing laws because they are scared too .
This is a fact, you live here you follow our laws or go to jail.
That will not change so you are obsessing over nothing.
We have major issues in the world right now .
Get a grip on reality.
TnGelding
March 23rd, 2011
2:05 am
Cain slew Cain.
TnGelding
March 23rd, 2011
2:14 am
Most of the women in my life are hard-hearted Hannahs. Beware!
susan
March 23rd, 2011
2:15 am
I love when people say “we don’t fly planes into buildings.” No, but we drop atomic bombs on innocent civilians burning the skin off of 350,000. We do kill 150 million American Indians in the last 400 years. We do import slaves from Africa and hold them down as long as we can until the pesky liberals of the time demand their freedom. We do imprison 120,000 Japanese Americans with 70% being US citizens in 1942. We do kill 250 people in the Mid East searching for fictitious weapons but your are right, we typically don’t fly planes into buildings except when it’s one of our own flying into the IRS building…..
TnGelding
March 23rd, 2011
2:42 am
susan
March 23rd, 2011
2:15 am
Shh!!! Remember the Alamo. Remember the Maine. Remember Pearl Harbor. Remember God is on our side!
seabeau
March 23rd, 2011
7:08 am
Susan!! The US dropped the Bombs on Japan because we extrappolled the deaths,military and civilian that would occur if the US invaded in Japanese Home Islands would reach an excess of TWO MILLION. The bombing actually saved lives. We did kill many Native Americans. Of cource they themselves were killing each other as well.As for the Slave Trade,yes those nasty old liberals in Yankee states in New England where incidentally ALL of the ships that carried the slaves were financed by Northern Banks,built by Northern Shipyards, sailed by northern crews and captained by northerners. The slave trade Built Wall Street and the War Between the States gave us a Federal Government with vastly more power than the founding fathers ever intended . As far as the internment of the Japanese Americans during WW2 ,once again a violation of the constitution by the Federal Government.
Lil' Barry Bailout
March 23rd, 2011
7:13 am
The best part about our Nobel Prize winning Idiot Messiah having gone to war with Libya is that it will seriously cut down on the number of idiotarian posts about our President Bush going to war with “a country that never attacked us”.
You Distort/We Deride
March 23rd, 2011
7:24 am
Can you imagine that? Thulsa derides my hyberbole by shrieking her own hyperbole times five.
The cons on this board disturb me, simply because their lack of logic combined with a distortion of fact somehow is supposed to trump my own opinions.
Go ahead and live your lives in fear of the boogie man, cons. And while you’re at it, why not suggest your solution? Does genocide sound about right?
ConnedConsCon
March 23rd, 2011
7:32 am
I’m glad McCain is not president. He’d still be struggling with something that rhymes with, “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Egypt,” while Sarah would be struggling with what shade of red to wear to the shock and awe campaign before finally throwing up her hands and quitting, again. They would eventually end up calling in two of their spiritual advisors, Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich, to tell them what to do next.
stands for decibels
March 23rd, 2011
7:35 am
black folks have just as much a right (and an obligation, I’d say) as anybody else to be off the wall…
and I wholeheartedly support Mr. Cain’s right to go all the way to win GOP primaries and proudly go into battle in the general election in 2012.
In fact, I might even slip a few shekels his way to help him on his journey.
@@
March 23rd, 2011
7:38 am
Mick:
…there are regions in this country where one can go where there’s less religionista’s..remember in 2050, hispanics will obtain the majority, it will be a brave new world?
Are you implying that hispanics are godless heathens?
Roman Catholics, most of ‘em. Very devout.
One Nation Under God!
March 23rd, 2011
7:40 am
Mo-hammad was a PEDIPHILE!!!!!!!!!!!! That is somebody to worship. A perverted freak.
stands for decibels
March 23rd, 2011
7:42 am
He’d still be struggling with something that rhymes with, “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Egypt,”
Ta-ake my con-script?
Ta-ake my Cool-Whip?
that’s a toughie.
Mick
March 23rd, 2011
7:50 am
@@
As a retired catholic myself, I don’t find that that brand of religion too aggressive or abrasive….I’m also not talking about godless heathens, just a region where religion is mild and unobtrusive…
Bill Orvis White
March 23rd, 2011
7:52 am
First of all, Bill Orvis White called for Herman to run before Herman even thought about running: http://tinyurl.com/27q8oww
If we are looking at experience, technical quality and pure intelligence, the Honorable Mr. Herman Cain should be president of the United States right now.
Second, Mr. Cain knows that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. The good Muslims help us out in places like Saudi Arabia where most of the world gets the oil that we need. The Saudis also helped out the Honorable President George HW Bush in the rightful first war against the thug Saddam Hussein who re-grouped behind our backs to pull off September the 11th. Of course, Saddam re-grouped under Bubba Clinton’s watch while that administration took a vacation from history. After Saddam pulled off the biggest terrorist act on our soil, HW’s dignified, honorable son, the Honorable President George W. Bush rightfully went after the people responsible for killing 3,000+ US citizens.
So you see, Liberal Jay and your secular progressive friends, a President Cain would know the difference between who helps us and who doesn’t. In other words, WE THE PEOPLE would have our country back under a Cain administration whereby we return to the rightful and just Bush Doctrine.
Amen,
Bill
stands for decibels
March 23rd, 2011
7:55 am
Mo-hammad was a PEDIPHILE!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Jesus’ followers [could be said to] have a fetish for brutal torture (the cross), worship a zombie, and eat human flesh and drink human blood in their rituals [if you're willing to go the extra mile to demonize all good folks who call themselves "Christian"]!!!!!!!!!!
Otherwise, you might want to look a little deeper than what you’ve been spoon fed about Islam in general, and about the concept of marriage among Bedouins at the time in question, in particular.
jt
March 23rd, 2011
7:56 am
Too funny………….
I looked it up.
idiotarian-a philosophy or individual who increasingly defends an untenable position or person,most often denying rationality or logic.Often in a shrill manner.
See sucker,Democrat/Republican, or Gullible.
Mick
March 23rd, 2011
8:04 am
bill orvis
Saddam was behind the world trade center attacks? You must be the last man standing who believes in that fairy tale…
One Nation Under God!
March 23rd, 2011
8:06 am
stands for dumb—, if you think taking a twelve or thirteen year old girl against her will and making her your mate is ok, then perhaps we have a little more insight of what you spend your days on your computer doing, when your not waiving your yes we can flag on jays blog.
carlosgvv
March 23rd, 2011
8:08 am
“to strive to be more Christ-like”
Herman Cain, like so many “good Christians”, does not care that many are Jews, Muslims, Hindus, agnostics etc. My way or the highway is their attitude. This will never change. All true belivers, Christian or otherwise, have the same mentality.
One Nation Under God!
March 23rd, 2011
8:10 am
mickymouse, no, saddam wasn’t behind the WTC attacks but he was murdering his citizens and condoning brutal attacks on women and children. Sorta like old mo-mar in lybia. Funny that you bedwetters were so upset with President Bush but now support the same actions by little barry-boy.
Call it like it is
March 23rd, 2011
8:16 am
Hmmmm….wasnt sure if I was going to look into Herman Cain or not, but since Bookman doesnt like him, that changes everything.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2011
8:18 am
“saddam wasn’t behind the WTC attacks but he was murdering his citizens and condoning brutal attacks on women and children”
And so were the Taliban in Afghanistan..but we didn’t attach THERE until AFTER 911, BECAUSE the Taliban gave sanctuary to Al Qaeda. Just being brutal to woman and children was NOT enough to trigger an attack in Afghanistan, but it WAS in Iraq? I like your double standard.
redder
March 23rd, 2011
8:18 am
I talked to a good friend of mine the other day about what I think being Catholic is all about. When she said that she doesnt get God and doesnt believe in Him, I felt bad for her. Difference between me and the people in the middle east (Muslims) is that the Bible doesnt say that I should thereafter kill her.
Its time people wake up to what is happening. Dont be fooled by the candy, the gun is not far behind.
George W. Bush
March 23rd, 2011
8:18 am
And y’all thought I was dumb for trying to spread Democracy by bombing another country!
ConnedConsCon
March 23rd, 2011
8:18 am
if you think taking a twelve or thirteen year old girl against her will and making her your mate is ok
I think I read about one of those cases. They seem to happen here in the US quite often. It really Smarts, don’t it, to hear that it’s not just for Mohammeds any more.
stands for decibels
March 23rd, 2011
8:19 am
if you think taking a twelve or thirteen year old girl against her will and making her your mate is ok
“taking”/”making”, present tense? If you can find where I’ve ever said such a thing, feel free to present it to the class for discussion.
If on the other hand you’re going to hold every historical figure out there up to current standards and practices and judge them accordingly, for starters, we’d better tear down those monuments to the guys who bought and sold men and women like they would livestock (and who fathered at least one child by the “property”, as well.)
Peadawg
March 23rd, 2011
8:20 am
“I like your double standard.” – For the record, Doggone, are you for or against the bombings in Libya?
stands for decibels
March 23rd, 2011
8:20 am
you bedwetters
Not that I have been thus afflicted, but seriously, why do conservatives hate people with involuntary urinary control problems?
ConnedConsCon
March 23rd, 2011
8:20 am
I think Republicans should select Herman Cain as their choice for president. He’s a natural.
Mick
March 23rd, 2011
8:21 am
one nation
I do not support obama in getting involved in Libya’s internal conflict. I am against being the world cop, if you do for one then you should do for all, so don’t stereotype me…
ConnedConsCon
March 23rd, 2011
8:21 am
Not that I have been thus afflicted, but seriously, why do conservatives hate people with involuntary urinary control problems?
Perhaps they like to have advance notice of impending trickle down.
stands for decibels
March 23rd, 2011
8:22 am
dang. dead-threaded by housing poop-pile sheets.
Dave R.
March 23rd, 2011
8:25 am
“Herman Cain, like so many “good Christians”, does not care that many are Jews, Muslims, Hindus, agnostics etc. My way or the highway is their attitude.”
And you learned that about him WHERE, carlos? From one post by Jay Bookman?
Your thoughts are so narrow-minded I’ll bet your Post-It Notes are all one inch wide.
Chris Matthews
March 23rd, 2011
8:29 am
All Muslims are radicals!
Congressman brooks
March 23rd, 2011
8:31 am
Drill Baby Drill! Obozo is clueless! Makes Bush a genius in comparison!
JB
March 23rd, 2011
8:48 am
Don’t think I’ve seen people under the banner of “Christians” commit hundreds of acts of terrorism the last 20 years, killing anyone, anywhere, including their own. If you don’t think there is a problem with a sect of this religion, you are narrow minded. It’s real, growing and not interested in sitting down and talking about it.
poison pen
March 23rd, 2011
8:54 am
Bush,Palin, Newt, Cain….Bush, Palin, Newt, Cain…Bush, Palin,Newt,Cain…Bush, Palin,Newt,Cain
get the picture, ooops! almost forgot Global Warming.
Article today on Drudge stating that Biden said ” if he starts a war I will Impeach him myself ” LMAO.
Keith
March 23rd, 2011
8:58 am
Evangelizing is annoying from any religion however it is rightfully protected under the constitution and i don’t see anything in Herman’s statements suggesting otherwise. Attempting to push your religious views on others using the force of government is inappropriate from any religion,. It was wrong when the Southern Baptists did it and it will be just as wrong if and when others try it as well.
JB
March 23rd, 2011
8:59 am
Obama is a one term President. His base is mad because he HAS to be Normal and straight laced at times, Like being shown up by France to bomb Libya. You better bet he didn’t want to. College kids are out of school and realizing finding a job other than Starbucks is impossible.
The fence sitters( independents) Have seen enough. Moderate Democrats are embarrassed….. ( we must pass the bill to see what’s in it…..Yes, it’s on tape) He’s toast.
poison pen
March 23rd, 2011
9:18 am
Susan & Seabeau, the last time that I checked I believe a Republican President freed the slaves, please check your history.
The Thin Guy
March 23rd, 2011
9:18 am
Unlike Jay Bookman and his Midtown Myrmidons, I actually know quite a few Muslims. Most are intelligent, articulate, and personable. But when it comes to religion, politics, and sex they are all crazy as a bed bug. Try going to a Muslim country and proselytizing for another religion and see what happens. Actually, I feel sorry for the Muzzies. BBQ pork ribs, pork chops, bacon, and ham are things that makes life worth living. Never belong to a religion that has a dress code or dietary restrictions.
JG
March 23rd, 2011
9:21 am
Jay, look at the countries dominated by the Islamic faith. These are countries that endorse aristocracy and show no support for any freedom of public gatherings or speech, no freedom of religion, no respect for gay and lesbian rights, and certainly no respect for women’s rights. These are issues that many Americans hold dear, unfortunately most in the Islamic world do not support these simple, yet powerful, ideals.
With all the political attacks on Christians and Jews, I think what Mr. Cain was trying to say is that he fears that later down the road it may turn out to be politically incorrect to turn down the Islamic faith. That is just my opinion I could be wrong.
JB
March 23rd, 2011
9:31 am
LOL the thin guy…..I agree with you…..
Greg
March 23rd, 2011
9:36 am
Larry David said it best, regarding evangelicals, but you can apply it to any pushy member of a religion. “I like lobster, but I don’t go around telling everybody else you have to eat the lobster, here eat the lobster”
joe
March 23rd, 2011
9:39 am
I agree with everything Herman said…there is nothing wrong with his remarks. I find him refreshing, honest and genuinely concerned with our country and our way of life. He, along with most of us, can see when there is something brewing that could potentially derail our way of living. In my eyes, there are two such instances we are dealing with today. The first is islamic terrorists, as they opt to kill those who don’t believe in their God…Christians don’t threaten non-believers with their lives. Secondly, is the weakening of America both domestically and Internationally. Our current president is heck-bent on making decisions to weaken our nation.
I’d elect Herman Cain our next President in a heartbeat as he can address both those issues.
the red herring
March 23rd, 2011
9:42 am
Nothing wrong with Herman Cain’s comments. Until the law abiding Muslims are willing to help root out the fanatics then we have to protect america. We should be continuing to observe what is going on in the mosques in this country (might be a good idea to pay more attention what’s being said in Rev. Wrights church as well.) Too many examples of people in America becoming radicalized for us to simply ignore it. I don’t care to recognize anything as a “religion” that preaches murdering people who don’t accept it. This doesn’t correct the wrongs other religions have committed but for now the focus should be on whether we should accept radical islam in america and I for one vote NO. 60 minutes had some shows of hidden videos several years ago of what was being preached in these mosques—we need more of that so people can understand the misuse of the term religion when applied to these folks.
williebkind
March 23rd, 2011
9:56 am
Religion seems to be a hot topic today! But I rather know what Obama scored on the golf course.
TnGelding
March 23rd, 2011
9:59 am
Lil’ Barry Bailout
March 23rd, 2011
7:13 am
War? Surely you jest.
Libya did attack our citizens, at least according to Sir Ronnie. And all he did was slap them on the wrist. The Kenyan prince is now having to clean up one of his messes along with those of ‘41′ and ‘43′.
Sorry to intrude, but I just couldn’t resist. Troll on and have a great day!
LOL
March 23rd, 2011
10:04 am
Jay, I hate to break this to you but this country was founded on Judeo- Christian beliefs. It has evolved some over the years, but that is still the base. I know you “Liberals” only like to use facts and history when it suits you’re agenda. What Mr. Cain said is not wrong, this country has a Constitution and a set of laws by which it is goverend, and anyone who comes to this country legally should assimilate to those laws and abide by them. There is no place for Shariah law in this country just as there would be no place for any Jewish, Buddhist, laws etc..
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
March 23rd, 2011
10:10 am
Herman Cain is THE MAN! I would vote for him for any office.
Cynthia Who?
March 23rd, 2011
10:19 am
Another lazy cut and paste article by the AJC’s talented staff of liberal writers. Why not write about something important like the budget or wasting money in Libya? Instead you and CNN love to go after potential presidential candidates.
DawgDad
March 23rd, 2011
10:25 am
“Yes, DawgDad. Now imagine yourself as that minority hearing a candidate for president describing you as Cain described Muslims.”
Jay, as a government and as a society we are NOT discriminating against nor intimidating Muslim minorities in this country. In the Muslim world, this is all too often NOT the case in reverse. It is intellectually dishonest to imply that we are, or that Mr. Cain is. Period.
On this you DO NOT have the ability to alter my opinion or view, even at the point of a gun if it came to that. I’ve heard Mr. Cain speak far too often to believe otherwise, and I know (there are individual exceptions in every crowd) people on the right in general harbor no ill will toward Muslims who are not seeking our death and destruction, which many are, openly and on the record.
Swede Atlanta
March 23rd, 2011
10:39 am
Herman Cain is a religious zealot, period.
The first part of the interview exposes the fact he doesn’t believe that Muslims are capable of being qualified, capable physicians. He was relieved with it was determined his physician was a Christian. That can only mean he didn’t really believe that a Muslim could achieve the same level of competence as a Christian.
Muslim extremist elements are not about converting Christians, Jews, Buddhists, etc. to Islam. They are using their religion as a shield and a sword to attack anyone that doesn’t believe as they do. Osama Bin Laden would not stop vilifying the U.S. tomorrow if everyone here converted to Islam. For him it is all about power and terror.
Islam, like Christianity, is an evangelical religion. Both religions maintain that the only path to truth and salvation is by following the tenets of their religion. There were times in the past when Christians used violence in the name of their religion whether it was during the Crusades when thousands of Muslims were slaughtered or during the Inquisition when thousands of Muslims and Jews were forced to convert or face death or banishment.
Christian tradition has mellowed over time so that conversion relies primarily on persuasion and to a great extent example, i.e. Christian charities.
Nations with a Judeo-Christian legal pedigree have largely eliminated the harshest elements of the tradition. For example we don’t banish or stone someone for heresy, something that was done in New England under the Puritans.
Not all Muslims and certainly none of the American Muslims I know (a) follow Sharia law or (b) have any interest in interjecting their religious traditions and observances into American law. What they do fear, however, are attempts by Christians to interject Christian traditions into secular law. My Muslim friends want a secular society where all are free to practice their religion including Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.
Mr. Right
March 23rd, 2011
11:01 am
Jay I was looking for your slam against Cain since thats what you do and you waited till the last sentence ! Wow , not bad !
Beau Leroux
March 23rd, 2011
11:50 am
If the Watchtower comes to my door I can kindly tell them that I am Catholic and they leave. I would have a problem if a Muslim came to the door and comenced to lop off my head for the same reason! I fail to see your point Jay. Are you saying that it is okay for Muslims to kill if one doesn’t convert?
Lil' Barry Bailout
March 23rd, 2011
1:40 pm
Turns out the Libyan rebels are supported by al Qaeda. No wonder the Idiot Messiah is also backing them. He wouldn’t miss a chance to ally himself with his natural constituency–America haters and terrorists.
dbm
March 23rd, 2011
1:48 pm
@ WOW
March 22nd, 2011
3:48 pm
Timothy McVeigh blew up a multi-story building. Is it important that he used a truck instead of a plane?
And what about the Crusades and the Inquisition?
dbm
March 23rd, 2011
1:54 pm
@ Beau Leroux
March 23rd, 2011
11:50 am
Are you saying it is okay for Catholics and Jehovah’s Witnesses to kill if one doesn’t convert?
Freethinker
March 23rd, 2011
2:11 pm
Of course, Christians proselytize all the time, and we freethinkers resent it. That being said, nothing is quite as threatening as Islam, ideology-wise, so Mr. Cain is certainly correct in his assessment. I would prefer that all three Abrahamic monotheistic religions – Judaism, Christianity and Islam – receive proper scrutiny to determine that they are largely based on falsehoods and create terrible bigotry and divisiveness.
Lil' Barry Bailout
March 23rd, 2011
3:02 pm
If you oppose religion, don’t have one. Unless and until your rights are in some way violated, it really isn’t any of your business. And someone discussing religion or their beliefs with you is not a violation of your rights.
DAfromPA
March 23rd, 2011
11:11 pm
“In other words, they better not get too pushy, right Mr. Cain? They better recognize their place. They can be equal, but … not THAT equal.”
Jay, what in the world are you talking about? Mr. Cain was talking about certain Muslims who intend to convert the rest of us BY FORCE. He made that very clear. Are you suggesting true equality mean we must allow this?
Sharon
March 24th, 2011
9:53 am
It never ceases to amaze me that an individual thinks they know best for all……..
85% ????? realy? Did he ever stop to consider all the Native Americans? You know the First Peoples of Turtle Island (know called the USA-by those that immigranted illegaly to these shores and caused suffering/deaths),……which today still go on?
I should also include the 1997 bill signed into law that forecfuly removed 12,000 men/women/children/elders and put them on a radio-active toxic dump so that Peabody Coal(a British company) could rape the land………1997 not so long ago…………..
congress………………lets see………..who has rights?
Oh by-the -way…….their life, the Dineh’ – filmed their exsistance ,called “Broken Rainbow” and took it whith some of the elders to the UN in 2000 and showed it to World leaders…..yep……the World knows………………………………did you?
So, Mr. Cain………………………….take your comments and keep them.
Many of the Nations have become Christian and that is their right……other have not, and that is their right. Many still have not chosen a path, and that is their right.
dbm
March 24th, 2011
12:27 pm
@ LOL
March 23rd, 2011
10:04 am
A lot of the Founding Fathers were deists.
dbm
March 24th, 2011
1:42 pm
@ DAfromPA
March 23rd, 2011
11:11 pm
Sorry, DA, Mr. Cain didn’t make that at all clear.
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MMD
March 25th, 2011
5:49 pm
While Allah is the Muslim word for god, it is not the same as the Christian God. Muslim’s do not consider Jesus to be the son of God and the savior of mankind. Jesus himself claimed this. If you disagree with Him, that’s fine. But since Jesus set himself in a different status, he can not be grouped with others and neither can his Father God.
Also, coming to the Christian God is a choice with which ultimately God will deal not me. Fortunately if someone does not convert, I have no responsibility to kill them before my God. If killing or lying is taught even remotely in certain Muslim sects, I certainly would think twice of having a Dr. who adhered to this religion. His religious convictions would possibly be stronger than his medical ethics. I could not possibly determine that for sure. That’s not prejudice, it’s wisdom. If Muslims are in disagreement with these teachings, they must speak louder. I don’t hear them and I’m trying to listen.