Herman Cain drops ‘friendly’ warning to American Muslims
In an interview with Christianity Today, GOP presidential candidate and metro Atlanta resident Herman Cain was asked about race and discrimination:
“Do people still discriminate in some small ways against certain people because of their color or their religion? Yes. But it is nowhere near where it was 235 years ago.
Whether we will ever reach that utopian level of all men created equal and all men being treated equal, I don’t know. You know, the journey in life is to strive to be better and better every day, to strive to be more Christ-like. Whether or not any of us get to the level of Christ himself, I doubt it, because we are human. You have secret thoughts, and only God and Christ knows those secret thoughts. And they may not be Christ-like.”
That’s well put. Later, however, the interviewer asks Cain about a speech he gave last month at a church in Milner, Ga., in which Cain recounted his successful battle against cancer. (A video of the speech is below; the section in question begins at the 5:00 minute mark). When he learned that his surgeon would be a Dr. Abdallah, Cain said, he initially balked. But when the physician’s assistant reassured him that “Don’t worry, he’s a (Lebanese) Christian,” Cain reports that he “felt a whole lot better.”
The interviewer uses that incident to inquire about the appropriate role for Muslims in this country:
“The role of Muslims in American society is for them to be allowed to practice their religion freely, which is part of our First Amendment. The role of Muslims in America is not to convert the rest of us to the Muslim religion. That I resent. Because we are a Judeo-Christian nation, from the fact that 85 percent of us are self-described Christians, or evangelicals, or practicing the Jewish faith. Eighty-five percent. One percent of the practicing religious believers in this country are Muslim.
And so I push back and reject them trying to convert the rest of us. And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion, you know, they have an objective to convert all infidels or kill them. Now, I know that there are some peaceful Muslims who don’t go around preaching or practicing that. Well, unfortunately, we can’t sit back and tolerate the radical ones simply because we know that there are some of them who don’t believe in that aspect of the Muslim religion. So their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely, just like we should be allowed to practice our religion freely, and not try to convert the rest of us.”
“Their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely … and not try to convert the rest of us.”
In other words, they better not get too pushy, right Mr. Cain? They better recognize their place. They can be equal, but … not THAT equal.
The remarks are particularly interesting in the context of the rest of the interview, in which Cain makes a pitch for political support from the Christian evangelical community. (Cain himself is an associate pastor at Antioch Baptist Church North in Atlanta). One of the defining characteristics of the evangelical movement is the importance it places on, well, evangelizing. You know, trying to convert the non-believing and thus save their souls. Like many in the Muslim faith, they see it as part of their religious duty.
Apparently that’s OK for Christians in this country, but not for others.
– Jay Bookman
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Pogo
March 22nd, 2011
5:22 pm
josef, I don’t think Jay is anti-Christian. I just think him and his ideological brethren just think that it is the most vulnerable and the most acceptable religion to attack without any potential political fallout for themselves from their editors or their peers. White Christians in this country have become the “enemy” to be conquered by the left. Nevermind that there are millions of black christians. To the left, the Christianity that is practiced in the black church is much different than the “hateful” Christianity that whites practice. And why is that? Because black christians blindly support the demoractic party. It is just that simple.
The left can’t attack Jews or Muslims or Hindus because it would be not politically correct to do so as those religions don’t represent the largest majority of religious people in this country. The progressive movement is all about attacking the white majority of anything and furthering the cause of the minority because if they (the left) can get enough groups that they deem as “minorities” on their side, they think that they can control things. And to the left, this whole thing is about control and eliminating anyone and anything that stands in their way of achieving their goal. The only types of people in our society that are allowed to be attacked and made fun of anymore are obese people, people from the South (because of their supposed stereotypical “ignorance” and “bigot” label), black people that stray from the democratic fold and certain conservative women. There is nothing more that liberals hate than members of their ordained “minorities” that “defect” from their liberal cause. I means Jays piece here is meant to do exactly what I am saying and look at Palin. I don’t like Palin at all but it is totally OK with NOW for Bill Maher to call her a “cu#@” on national TV. Is Jay OK with this? Is anyone OK with calling a woman this? The silence from the media on this arrogant clown calling Palin this most derogratory term is because their ideology means more than common decency and if that is what our society has come to, I want no part of it. And make no mistake, I am not a died in the wool Christrian. I do believe in a higher power but my belief is my own business as is everyone elses. I hate hypocrisy and I see more and more of it everyday here and everywhere else.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:23 pm
“Religions” are mankind’s way of trying to reach out to God.
“Christianity” is God’s way of reaching out to mankind.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:23 pm
“The left can’t attack Jews or Muslims or Hindus’
They don’t mind attacking Israel.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:24 pm
““Christianity” is God’s way of reaching out to mankind.”
Huh, I thought it was God’s way of redemption.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:24 pm
“It’s the relationship with God that matters to people of faith”.
Fixed your typo, WOW. You need to remember that not all believe. And have every right to do so.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:25 pm
Religion’s got nothing to do with god, and god’s got nothing to do with religion.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:25 pm
“Fixed your typo, WOW. You need to remember that not all believe. And have every right to do so.”
You must have me confused with someone else.
@@
March 22nd, 2011
5:26 pm
Once again, much ado about nothing, jay.
“Their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely … and not try to convert the rest of us.”
In other words, they better not get too pushy, right Mr. Cain?
Cain would probably say the same thing about the Jehovah’s Witness.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:28 pm
“Religion’s got nothing to do with god, and god’s got nothing to do with religion.”
I’m not sure I totally buy into that statement, Kamchak. I think you have to have a religion first in order to have a concept of a god. Not sure I’m phrasing that properly, but I think one begats the other.
Del
March 22nd, 2011
5:28 pm
saywhat?, it’s not my responsibility to show you, it’s yours to stop wallowing in what you wish it is and pay attention to what it is.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:30 pm
“You must have me confused with someone else.”
No, I was referencing your comment @ 5:22 on the previous page.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:30 pm
POGO
There is a great deal of truth to what you say there. It is not my religion, but it particularly galls me when somebody comes in attacking Christianity and Christians (or any faith for that matter) with a broad brush. And you are right, there is this list that many liberals and no small few conservatives have of those it is okay to malign out of hand…
I don’t think Jay does it with religions, but he sure does with Southerners and lets ride comments against certain socio-economic classes without challenge…but, I suppose we all have our prejudices and biases…
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:30 pm
“I think you have to have a religion first in order to have a concept of a god. Not sure I’m phrasing that properly, but I think one begats the other.”
Not neccessarily. Think you have to have a concept of a god to have faith in one, but that doesn’t mean you have a religion.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 22nd, 2011
5:31 pm
I have no interest in gratuitous insults of religious faith, and have no respect for those who do.
Jay wrote that and good for him.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:32 pm
Pogo:
In my opinion Jay and millions of others are mistaken to think that all “religions” are equal and should be tolerated equally and treated equally. That is pure nonsense !
There are some religions in this country that like polygamy. We don’t allow that. It’s against the law. We don’t treat that religion equally.
It is my understanding that the British fear there are still some tribes in Uganda who sacrifice children to the “Crocadile God”. Guess what ………. that “religion” should disappear from the face of the earth.
If Jim Jones had not sipped the Kool-Aid and was still operating here in this country and immigrants by the hundreds of thousands were coming here to join his “cult”, change our laws and many were even violent about it what should our reaction be?
“Tolerance is the virtue of those who stand for nothing.”
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
“I don’t think Jay does it with religions, but he sure does with Southerners and lets ride comments against certain socio-economic classes without challenge…but, I suppose we all have our prejudices and biases…”
And a gentle poke at the Bruin through the bars by the man from Mississippi!
George W. Bush Jr. (formally known as Obama)
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
Ya that’s right…I’m going to bomb Libya and spread Democracy. How’s that for Hope and Change!!!
onpatroll
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
scout, your question is infantile. If we stay with your 3 muslim categories; chances are that classical muslims from the middle east come to the US. If they have children here they will be in category 1 whether their parents like it or not…this same analogy can be used for those of us (americans who have been here for generations) who grew up in christian, conservative households where the children don’t follow the parents. Over time you will lose both groups of muslim and christian radicals just like today. You can’t stand gay people but your typical high school student doesn’t see it your way anymore and within time they will be able to marry and in another closer to home example; we will hopefully have alcohol sales on sunday.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
WOW
“They don’t mind attacking Israel.”
But that’s not the same thing as…if you don’t believe it, just ask them! But I’ve learned not to go there here…and ever so often you do get a critic hereabouts who says “The State of Israel” or the Government of Israel…I tend to listen to them…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm
WOW:
That’s just another way of saying it ……… redemption, salvation, eternal life, etc., etc.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:34 pm
josef nix
I just think it’s interesting that there are American Jews who act as though they’re truly embarrassed of Israel.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
“That’s just another way of saying it ……… redemption, salvation, eternal life, etc., etc.”
Si
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
Send the Libyans to Gitmo. It’s still open for business.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
“I’m going to bomb Libya and spread Democracy”
Hate to break it to you…but the “spreading” started without us. We’re just helping to protect it.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
“There are some religions in this country that like polygamy. We don’t allow that. It’s against the law. We don’t treat that religion equally.”
And we are wrong to do so. As long as the act doesn’t affect the life, liberty or property of another, there should be no law against any practice.
That is what “equality” and “freedom” are all about.
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:35 pm
I think you have to have a religion first in order to have a concept of a god.
No, all you have to have is a soul.
Religion is a political organization.
Not just electoral “politics”, but “politics” in the sense that when more than two people get together and have to make decisions, then a certain amount of “lobbying” goes on to arrive at a consensus.
Some of the worst politicking that I have witnessed involves pulpit and/or building committees in 3 SBC churches.
Lifetime friendships lost.
Families torn apart.
Churches split up.
Not god’s work.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:36 pm
I remember when the left was talking up Obama like he was the next savior of the world. How he would end war, close Gitmo, end the Bush tax cuts, solve unemployment, not attack a country without first being attacked…….
Those were the good ole days.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:36 pm
DAVE R
Well, I don’t want Sister Dusty coming in calling me a suck up! And L-rd knows, I’m trying to learn the fine art of double standards…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:36 pm
“Hate to break it to you…but the “spreading” started without us. We’re just helping to protect it.’
Yes, by bombing a country that didn’t attack us………….
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:37 pm
MAKE BRACKETS NOT WAR
MAKE BRACKETS NOT WAR
MAKE BRACKETS NOT WAR
MAKE BRACKETS NOT WAR
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:37 pm
“No, all you have to have is a soul.”
That doesn’t quite cut it, either.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:37 pm
WEAR MOM JEANS, NOT CAMO
WEAR MOM JEANS, NOT CAMO
WEAR MOM JEANS, NOT CAMO
WEAR MOM JEANS, NOT CAMO
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:37 pm
“And we are wrong to do so. As long as the act doesn’t affect the life, liberty or property of another, there should be no law against any practice”
And I agree. As long as the partners in the polygamy and any children that result are fairly and legally protected, I see no reason to make it illegal.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:38 pm
THROW BASEBALLS, NOT GRENADES
THROW BASEBALLS, NOT GRENADES
THROW BASEBALLS, NOT GRENADES
THROW BASEBALLS, NOT GRENADES
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:39 pm
“That doesn’t quite cut it, either”
Well, I got curious and looked up “religion” in the dictionary and what came up actually makes no refererence to a god at all:
re·li·gion /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Show Spelled
[ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA
–noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic . religious rites.
8. Archaic . strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one’s vow.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:40 pm
CHANGE POSITIONS, NOT REGIMES
CHANGE POSITIONS, NOT REGIMES
CHANGE POSITIONS, NOT REGIMES
CHANGE POSITIONS, NOT REGIMES
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:40 pm
BUILD HIGH SPEED INDUSTRIAL TRAINS, NOT NATIONS
BUILD HIGH SPEED INDUSTRIAL TRAINS, NOT NATIONS
BUILD HIGH SPEED INDUSTRIAL TRAINS, NOT NATIONS
BUILD HIGH SPEED INDUSTRIAL TRAINS, NOT NATIONS
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:40 pm
WOW
I’m embarassed by some of the actions and policies of the government of the State of Israel…no, let me take that back. Shamed as a Jew would be a better word, and that wall is one of them…there are just some things that a Jew cannot do and walling in a group of people is one of them. But Israel? Well, have to admit, I’m one of the uppity variety Granddaddy called the Hebrew Tarzans!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:41 pm
SOMEWHERE IN CHICAGO, A VILLAGE IS MISSING ITS IDIOT
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:41 pm
“I’m embarassed by some of the actions and policies of the government of the State of Israel”
Like what?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:42 pm
OBAMA LIED, LIBYANS DIED
@@
March 22nd, 2011
5:43 pm
This isn’t intended as a Muslim bash, it’s directed at Qaddafi, who, inconveniently is Muslim.
The Gaddafi regime continues to deny any massacre took place in the Libyan town of Zawiyah.
Instead the government spokesman in Tripoli has asked Britain to produce “evidence” of any civilians dying at the hands of Gaddafi forces there.
Well, Dr Moussa Ibrahim, Sky News has that evidence. A Sky News team of three was trapped in Zawiyah as Gaddafi unleashed the might of his toughest brigade on the town – for days and days.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Video-Libya-Gaddafi-Regime-Denies-Massacre-In-Zawiyah-But-Sky-News-Has-Evidence-It-Happened/Article/201103415958004?lpos=World_News_Top_Stories_Header_2&lid=ARTICLE_15958004_Video%2C_Libya%3A_Gaddafi_Regime_Denies_Massacre_In_Zawiyah%2C_But_Sky_News_Has_Evidence_It_Happened
Women and children with bullets in their heads.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:43 pm
You know “WOW” just adds SO MUCH to this blog. None of it advances the discussion one iota…but it does ADD a lot.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:43 pm
K’chak
And you and the SCB…you find what you go looking for and “still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest…” And I mean that with all due respect for your search for enlightenment.
saywhat?
March 22nd, 2011
5:44 pm
Del- in other words, you make stuff up and we should all just believe you. Good plan. Maybe you should stop wallowing in your irrational fear of things that don’t exist and pay attention to what does.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:44 pm
OBAMA LIED, BILL MAHER CRIED
OBAMA LIED, BILL MAHER CRIED
OBAMA LIED, BILL MAHER CRIED
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:45 pm
“You know “WOW” just adds SO MUCH to this blog. None of it advances the discussion one iota…but it does ADD a lot.’
Says the guy who hasn’t once discussed Herman Cain.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:45 pm
WOW
@ 5:41
See my
@ 5:40
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:46 pm
MUSLIM Dr. Zuhdi Jasser (the Thomas Paine of freedom loving Muslims in America) :
1) “says his faith harbors ‘an insidious supremacism’ “.
2) Wants “Muslim leaders to aggressively oppose a ‘culture of separatism’.”
3) Wants “clerics to disavaow scripture that belittles non-Muslims and women”.
4) Wants “clerics to renounce a role for Islam in government”.
Now, does anyone out there have any problems with Dr. Jasser’s statements (excluding of course Islamic terrorist cell leaders) ?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:46 pm
STOP OBAMA’S TERRORISM
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:46 pm
josef
As I grow older, I find myself more in tune with Siddhartha and his river.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:47 pm
Dave R:
Does that include the “Crocadile God” ceremony ????
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:47 pm
OUT OF LIBYA NOW
@@
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
josef:
I’m wondering how jay would confront a pushy Jew?
(ISH)
saywhat?
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:43 pm
“You know “WOW” just adds SO MUCH to this blog. None of it advances the discussion one iota…but it does ADD a lot.”
It adds the opportunity for me to use my scroll wheel on my mouse.I stopped reading the troll’s nonsense long ago. Do that and you can actually be smarter after reading Jays blog.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
WOW
Doggone is a she…not that it matters except in pronoun selection…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER DEMOCRAT WAR
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:48 pm
“Doggone is a she…not that it matters except in pronoun selection…”
noted
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:49 pm
DOWN WITH THE OBAMA REGIME
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:49 pm
BRING OUR TROOPS OUT OF LIBYA NOW
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:50 pm
NO OBAMA, YOU CAN’T HAVE MY BABY FOR YOUR WARS
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:51 pm
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:51 pm
TROOPS OUT OF IRAFGHANILIB NOW
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:52 pm
WE DO NOT TORTURE
Del
March 22nd, 2011
5:52 pm
I think Pogo @5:22 is spot on. It’s not that liberals generally speaking hate Christians, ( although there are those on the far-left who do) it’s that they see Christians as potentially a very strong voting block, which it can be and they think that discrediting Christians will somehow weaken that block.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:53 pm
“Do that and you can actually be smarter after reading Jays blog.”
Trust me…I DO scroll right on by, mostly.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:53 pm
Kamchak
I recently unearthed the Hesse work…BTW have you read “Ishmael?”
@@
How would Jay confront a pushy Jew? I can assure you, by telling us to get back into our “you poor unfortunate thing” corner and be grateful…ISH
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:53 pm
“Trust me…I DO scroll right on by, mostly.’
They mostly come at night. Mostly.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
“Doggone is a she…not that it matters except in pronoun selection”
Yeah, well…I said something on an earlier blog about being a liberated woman…but THAT one seems to have sailed right on by.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
“How would Jay confront a pushy Jew?”
By telling said Jew to stop calling people leg humpers.
Mark T
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
JayJay, Jay…Obama goes to war without approval from Congress and if course thats not news worthy(btw, Bush got approval first), and this is what you talk about…
The hypocrisy is unreal!
Soothsayer
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
You know, just the other day, a Muslim jumped out from behind a tree and tried to convert me to Islam. I said, “we gave at the office.” He looked kinda puzzled and went back behind his tree.
TaxPayer
March 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm
Should all so-called religions be given equal protection from gratuitous remark. What about L. Ron Hubbard’s Church or atheism (it’s just the religion of no religion) or the family that protests at funerals. What if they believe that the only way for them to be saved is to protest. Then there’s devil worshipping and witchcraft. Do we draw a line or is anything potentially declarable as a religion worthy of our restraint and respect.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:55 pm
“Yeah, well…I said something on an earlier blog about being a liberated woman…but THAT one seems to have sailed right on by.”
Maybe because most people avoid your comments.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:55 pm
“What about L. Ron Hubbard’s Church or atheism”
Atheism isn’t a religion.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:56 pm
“Does that include the “Crocadile God” ceremony ????”
Of course not, Scout, because it violates the “life” portion of the life, liberty or property part of my argument.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:56 pm
DOWN WITH ENRON
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:57 pm
“is anything potentially declarable as a religion worthy of our restraint and respect”
There’s nothing in our laws or our society that requires you to respect any religion, but if you find one intolerable you are still expected to restrain yourself from violence.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:58 pm
DOWN WITH HALIBURTON
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:58 pm
josef
I used to have a voracious appetite for reading, but that part of me is resting. After doing the wiki thing on Ismael it looks like just the kind of thing I should’ve read.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:00 pm
At least Herman has Joy opening blogs about him.
How much traction will it generate? Probably not much but every time he gets press his numbers improve.
Cain is a smart guy with a proven track record as a get-it-done type leader and motivator.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:00 pm
WOW, Doggone
I read both of y’all,,,sometimes I agree and applaud, sometimes I disagree and hiss…but, then, I’m a reactionary and proud of it and come here to vent!
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:01 pm
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
3:50 pm
I gots me a genuine little brother.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Doesn’t it always feel good when you pick up a cowardly cyber stalker who uses your name?
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:02 pm
K’chak
I highly recommend it…I think you’d like it…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:02 pm
“Cain is a smart guy with a proven track record as a get-it-done type leader and motivator.”
He also ran a business and worked his way up instead of allowing affirmative action get him into Harvard.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:03 pm
“Doesn’t it always feel good when you pick up a cowardly cyber stalker who uses your name?”
no
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:04 pm
MAKE CHICKEN SOUP, NOT WAR
MAKE PRETTY CERAMICS, NOT WAR
MAKE BBQ CHICKEN PIZZA, NOT WAR
MAKE A DOG HOUSE, NOT WAR
@@
March 22nd, 2011
6:04 pm
josef:
I’m embarrassed to say I’ve not yet finished your book. Life’s been happenin’ in my world, what with folks dyin’ n all.
Anyhoo, what I have read puts me in mind of Scout’s narrative in “To Kill A Mockingbird”.
Pogo
March 22nd, 2011
6:04 pm
And what about Obama’s Brazillian visit? He goes there to offer American support in their offshore oil drilling operations and meanwhile, him and his EPA stymy any attempt on offshore drilling in the US (which is costing us hundreds of thousands of jobs) and ironically, he did this under the guise of “job creation” for Americans. What he really was down there for was to talk Brazil into buying up some of our national debt because now that Japan is unable to do it, he had to find another convenient “partner” to do it (or monetary patsy, if you will). He has no intention of curtailing our spending. He only wants another international “enabler” to continue it.
And what about those beloved American corn ethanol tarriffs? Obama is more than willing to throw them (and the heavily subsidized farmers in the Midwest) away for Brazil and their sugar cane produced ethanol market just to buy our debt. I don’t believe in the anti-christ thing but the thinking behind it is pretty much sound. If you have someone that promises you everything, whether they can deliver or not, then most likely the uninformed/biased will follow them and Obama is, if nothing more, a promiser. For those that believe in the anti-christ, rest assured, Obama is most certainly not that. He is not that smart. Obama has no real substance at all and his only real belief is in himself. It really is surprising that so many intelligent people are willing to continue to support Obama even though they must know in their heart of hearts, they have elected a loser. I can now understand how Hitler and Mussolini and any number of unsavory political characters in world history have come to power. They just promised to solve all of societies problems in a very convincing way, just as Obama did but unfortunately, our children are going to pay the price for this fools dreams of self-grandeur.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:05 pm
“We will continue to support the actions against Libya but we will not be in the lead.” – President Obama from El Salvador.
Who’s gonna lead and why the hell did we move our fleet, shoot off a couple hundred million dollars worth of Tomahawks, lose an F-15 and god only knows what else?
Our POTUS is a complete buffoon.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
6:07 pm
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Don’t be embarassed…you’ve had a lot on your plate…besides, you bought it and that’s what matters, eh? But thanks for the Scout reference…at first I thought you mean OUR Scout…had to do a second take! ISH
Paulo977
March 22nd, 2011
6:09 pm
josef
“gives us Jews a break…” There’s always a positive side to things!!
Fred
March 22nd, 2011
6:11 pm
@Kamchak: I have wondered for a while what a Kamchak was lol, so I finally did a google. Is your handle in fact from the books about the world of Gor? If so, (I know a REALLY stupid question) are they any good? I love science fiction/fantasy and need some good books to read. I see they are up to 26. It’s not a Robert Jordon type thing where the author got fond of his own voice and died before he could finish the series is it?
Mark T
March 22nd, 2011
6:14 pm
I love it…shoe is on the other foot, and nobody wants to talk about…Libs/Lefts credibility goes right out the window
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:14 pm
Dave R.
Well, it’s THEIR religion ! You’re not very tolerant.
By the way, we sacrifice thousands each day to the “ABORTION GOD”.
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
6:15 pm
Here’s one thing Obama did well. He needs to stick with this and live in Vegas.
Feel terrible about the state of your bracket after the first weekend of the NCAA Tournament? Don’t worry, we all do. But one person that doesn’t is President Barack Obama, leader of the free world and, apparently, bracket expert. Obama’s bracket is one of the nation’s best ahead of the Sweet Sixteen, in the 99.9th percentile in ESPN’s bracket challenge. For a man many say is too busy to enjoy as much college basketball as the rest of us, it’s an impressive feat, to say the least.
Obama nailed the West region in his bracket, correctly picking Duke, Arizona, Connecticut and San Diego State to make it to the Sweet Sixteen. In the Southeast, he lost one of his Final Four teams as Pittsburgh fell to Butler while also missing on Wisconsin. The Southwest region is a mess, just like the rest of the nation’s — even Obama couldn’t predict Richmond, VCU and Florida State making the Sweet Sixteen. Finally, the East region was near-perfect, with only Marquette spoiling Obama’s chance at perfection in the region.
In total, Obama has 490 points in the ESPN bracket challenge thus far, earning him bragging rights in the college basketball world. Meanwhile, my own bracket is on fire and a heaping mess after the first two rounds. You can check out our Sweet Sixteen predictions to get a handle on the next two rounds, or it may be safer to just follow Obama’s at this point.
http://seattle.sbnation.com/washington-huskies/2011/3/21/2064578/obamas-bracket-espn-bracket-challenge-score-ncaa-bracket
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:15 pm
Anyone seen Owl Gore?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:16 pm
Judge orders use of Islamic law in Tampa lawsuit over mosque leadership
http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/article1158818.ece
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
6:17 pm
Soothsayer:
You’re not paying attention. I told you yesterday you had that “tree thing” backwards. Right josef?
“Among the signs of the approach of Day of Judgment is what the messenger of Allah PBUH said: “The hour of judgment shall not happen until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Muslims shall kill the Jews to the point that the Jew shall hide behind a big rock or a tree and the rock or tree shall call on the Muslim saying: hey, O Muslim there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him ….”
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
6:18 pm
President Moron
As a presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) emphatically stated that the Constitution does not give the president the authority to unilaterally authorize a military attack unless it is needed to stop an actual or imminent attack on the United States.
Obama made the assertion in a Dec. 20, 2007 interview with the Boston Globe when reporter Charlie Savage asked him under what circumstances the president would have the constitutional authority to bomb Iran without first seeking authorization from Congress.
“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,” Obama responded.