Herman Cain drops ‘friendly’ warning to American Muslims
In an interview with Christianity Today, GOP presidential candidate and metro Atlanta resident Herman Cain was asked about race and discrimination:
“Do people still discriminate in some small ways against certain people because of their color or their religion? Yes. But it is nowhere near where it was 235 years ago.
Whether we will ever reach that utopian level of all men created equal and all men being treated equal, I don’t know. You know, the journey in life is to strive to be better and better every day, to strive to be more Christ-like. Whether or not any of us get to the level of Christ himself, I doubt it, because we are human. You have secret thoughts, and only God and Christ knows those secret thoughts. And they may not be Christ-like.”
That’s well put. Later, however, the interviewer asks Cain about a speech he gave last month at a church in Milner, Ga., in which Cain recounted his successful battle against cancer. (A video of the speech is below; the section in question begins at the 5:00 minute mark). When he learned that his surgeon would be a Dr. Abdallah, Cain said, he initially balked. But when the physician’s assistant reassured him that “Don’t worry, he’s a (Lebanese) Christian,” Cain reports that he “felt a whole lot better.”
The interviewer uses that incident to inquire about the appropriate role for Muslims in this country:
“The role of Muslims in American society is for them to be allowed to practice their religion freely, which is part of our First Amendment. The role of Muslims in America is not to convert the rest of us to the Muslim religion. That I resent. Because we are a Judeo-Christian nation, from the fact that 85 percent of us are self-described Christians, or evangelicals, or practicing the Jewish faith. Eighty-five percent. One percent of the practicing religious believers in this country are Muslim.
And so I push back and reject them trying to convert the rest of us. And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion, you know, they have an objective to convert all infidels or kill them. Now, I know that there are some peaceful Muslims who don’t go around preaching or practicing that. Well, unfortunately, we can’t sit back and tolerate the radical ones simply because we know that there are some of them who don’t believe in that aspect of the Muslim religion. So their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely, just like we should be allowed to practice our religion freely, and not try to convert the rest of us.”
“Their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely … and not try to convert the rest of us.”
In other words, they better not get too pushy, right Mr. Cain? They better recognize their place. They can be equal, but … not THAT equal.
The remarks are particularly interesting in the context of the rest of the interview, in which Cain makes a pitch for political support from the Christian evangelical community. (Cain himself is an associate pastor at Antioch Baptist Church North in Atlanta). One of the defining characteristics of the evangelical movement is the importance it places on, well, evangelizing. You know, trying to convert the non-believing and thus save their souls. Like many in the Muslim faith, they see it as part of their religious duty.
Apparently that’s OK for Christians in this country, but not for others.
– Jay Bookman
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George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
HEY JAY……why dont you post on your blog a cartoon drawing of Mohammed and see what happens…….
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
“I actually thought about that after my last post — thanks, you can be quite swell sometimes.”
I’m just showing off my sensitive side, Bosch!
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm
Known plenty of impolite people.
“Raising” generally don’t enter into it.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:43 pm
“why dont you post on your blog a cartoon drawing of Mohammed and see what happens’
EXACTLY!!!!! Hey, why not get Luckavich to do it. Oh wait, he’s skeered.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:43 pm
JAY
@ 4:42
Way to go! I rest my case!
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:44 pm
Better be careful Dave, somebody might think you’re a liberal…ewwwww……
Be careful Peadawg!!
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:45 pm
No George, I won’t do that. I also won’t stick a Christ figure in a jar of urine, for the same reason. I have no interest in gratuitous insults of religious faith, and have no respect for those who do.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:45 pm
Urban Meyer going to Ohio State.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:45 pm
OMG, I wish they’d get that news story about that plane crashing in Libya off the news for just a bit…it’s making me have panic attacks.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
Jay….so you associate drawing a figure with placing one in a jar of urine??? Really mature comment. Ha, coward!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
“I also won’t stick a Christ figure in a jar of urine, for the same reason.’
How many artists were beheaded over that? ZERO
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
George W
Point was just (and I meant to type ‘if other parts of the world saw select actions those here do) people get a skewed view of things, often based on the actions of a few. Kinda helps to view ourselves thru their eyes to understand how those views can be formed.
My point about the charities was I think it does a world of good to have people in those parts of the world getting slanted view of Christians or Westerners to get aid with no strings attached. Sure, there’s the residual suspicion, but overall, it helps undo the damage some here have caused.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
“it’s making me have panic attacks.”
Poor baby.
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
It’s funny that Liberals call Republicans war mongers and it was the Democrats that have started 90% of all the wars in the past century…just keeping you honest.
WWI-Wilson D
WWII-Roosevelt D
Korea-Truman D
Vietnam-Kennedy D
Bosnia- Clinton
Bush I-Iraq R
Bush II-Iraq R
I think you have us beat hands down for war mongering….kinda of like that other myth, you’re for the blacks and the little guy…that ones easy to debunk also.
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm
WOW…..great point…..this fool just wont get it.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm
Interesting article….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811197
Religion may become extinct in nine nations, study says
George W
March 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm
Bid D….Clinton also had Iraq.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm
Jay 4:45 – yeah, tolerance. I’m all for tolerance too. It stops when the folks engage in murder and terrorism. Being a KKK member isn’t illegal, and nor should it be. But I’m damn certain the police and citizenry should keep a close eye on those folks.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm
I think the preamble might just cover the whole “taking of a life” thing, jm.
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
Kinda hard to argue against the “establish justice” and “insure domestic tranquility” thing, don’t you think?
Not to mention that it is kinda hard to enjoy “the blessings of liberty” when you can be killed on a whim.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:48 pm
“I think you have us beat hands down for war mongering….kinda of like that other myth, you’re for the blacks and the little guy…that ones easy to debunk also.”
And a Democrat socialist also helped build the atomic bomb. 2 Jews and a socialist to be exact.
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:48 pm
G W 4:42…yea, he would find out real quick just how ” peaceful” they really are.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:48 pm
Bosch, Paul and any other Anglicans…
I met a fellow the other day from Turkey…he was involved in the efforts there to restore some of the Byzantine frescoes painted over by the Muslims. He had been invited to England to help restore some of the Norman frescoes painted over by Henry and Company…a little bit of ecumenism to brighten our day!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:49 pm
WWI-Wilson D
WWII-Roosevelt D
Korea-Truman D
Vietnam-Kennedy D
Bosnia- Clinton
Bush I-Iraq R
Bush II-Iraq R
And who is left out: REAGAN!!!!!!!!!!
TimFromLA
March 22nd, 2011
4:50 pm
@WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:34 pm
//“But instead of killing them non-believers outright, the Sky-Spook and the son, Jeebus, whose mother was born of rape, will kill you.”
Gee, I wonder why your hate filled rhetoric was censored.//
Where is the hate? Telling a woman to not have an abortion and watching a living being suffer isn’t hate? This is what Christianity teaches? Oh right, this is NOT hate-filled, but the will of the Pizza-eating-Sky-Spook. Then this is why Christianity is such an evil organization.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
4:50 pm
Paul – it’s actually Luke 19:27 not 28
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:51 pm
“Where is the hate? Telling a woman to not have an abortion and watching a living being suffer isn’t hate? This is what Christianity teaches? Oh right, this is NOT hate-filled, but the will of the Pizza-eating-Sky-Spook. Then this is why Christianity is such an evil organization.’
Tim, you got problems, dude.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:51 pm
“Not to mention that it is kinda hard to enjoy “the blessings of liberty” when you can be killed on a whim.”
Yeap.
(Aren’t you doubly scared that I agreed with you?)
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:52 pm
Dave R – 4:47 – I don’t think Domestic Tranquility means what you think it means. More like a national defense clause. If Domestic Tranquility meant what you thought, I’m 99.9% sure slavery wouldn’t have flown.
In all seriousness, its kinda surprising a Muslim hasn’t tried to use the 1st amendment. Maybe they have.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:52 pm
Big D
And if we can believe the Carpetbag-Scalawag-Yankee Imperialist Running Dogs, add the Late Misunderstanding to the list even if it were more than a century ago!
Jefferson Davis (D)
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
josef,
That is cool! Thanks for sharing! Right up my alley on many levels. And, you’re still wrong.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
Jay – WOW
19:27?
The parable? About the ten servants? A story told to illustrate a larger point? A story told knowing only a certain few would understand the principle behind it and others would not understand?
Again, some people quoting the Bible remind me of people who quote a line from Midsummer Night’s Dream and proclaim “See! That’s Shakespeare’s entire philosophy! Right there in one line! It explains all his plays, life, the universe and everything!”
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
WOW 4:49 And which war was that….
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
In all seriousness, jm?
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm
josef,
Just curious, but do you ever watch that show NCIS? You remind me of Duckie on that show.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
March 22nd, 2011
4:54 pm
Our anti-Christian friends do not have to worry about Luke 19:27 during this lifetime. Why change your ways?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:54 pm
Paul
I posted the entire verse along with some that followed.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm
Dave R – sad truth. “Murder” is legal in many forms. Government can do it. An individual can do it in self defense. And when slavery was legal, you could kill your slave if you so decided (puke). If an individual can do it in self defense, or their religion requires it, I don’t see anything stopping them frankly (legally).
People should probably avoid pointing out the 1st amendment to Muslims….
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm
Yep , and he was talking about those God awful slave freeing Republicans…
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm
“WOW 4:49 And which war was that….’
No war, Big D. I was just stating that Reagan never started a war and ended the Cold War without firing a shot.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm
“That’s Shakespeare’s entire philosophy! Right there in one line! It explains all his plays, life, the universe and everything!”
There are idiots everywhere, Paul. No one is immune from their existence.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
4:56 pm
Jay 4:53 – just thinking out loud. What part of the Constitution bans murder, either by government or individuals? There isn’t one. It is part of federal law of course.
Ok, I’m laughing at myself right now. But the reality is government commits murder through capital punishment. Just food for thought here….
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
4:57 pm
jm,
“People should probably avoid pointing out the 1st amendment to Muslims….”
Don’t worry, freedom of religion doesn’t trump the actual law of the land. Sleep easy there.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
4:57 pm
No, Reagan cut and ran by GOP standards. But he did bravely attack Libya and invade Grenada.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:57 pm
“The parable? About the ten servants? A story told to illustrate a larger point? A story told knowing only a certain few would understand the principle behind it and others would not understand?”
The ten minas: parable of the long journey.
Whoever posted that verse left out the ENTIRE parable.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:58 pm
“No, Reagan cut and ran by GOP standards. ”
LOL
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
4:58 pm
” “Murder” is legal in many forms. Government can do it. An individual can do it in self defense.”
No, it isn’t. Killing is legal in some instances. Murder never is.
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
4:58 pm
Funny thing about your list, WOW.
Bosnia, which was exclusively an air campaign, is listed as a war.
Yet you don’t list Reagan’s invasion of Grenada, or Bush’s invasion of Panama.
that's just goofy
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
I’ve never had a Muslim come to my door to preach – or try to convert me. Christians however ….
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
“But the reality is government commits murder through capital punishment. Just food for thought here”
Nope again. The government is not murdering you when you are convicted of a crime and sentenced to death.
Big D
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
WOW ..I know I just wanted them to see the foolishness of their words about Reagan…if they had to think about which war… it would in turn make them think.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
“Bosnia, which was exclusively an air campaign, is listed as a war.”
Not my list, Jay. Big D posted it and I copied it and showed that Reagan never took the US to war.
“Yet you don’t list Reagan’s invasion of Grenada, or Bush’s invasion of Panama.”
Again, not my list, Jay.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
4:59 pm
Bosch
You are welcome. I thought you might like that one…and I am not. BTW, I’ll take Duckie as a compliment, but how so?
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:00 pm
mur·der
noun \ˈmər-dər\
Definition of MURDER
1: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
Murder by definition means unlawful.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:00 pm
“Yet you don’t list Reagan’s invasion of Grenada”
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
TnGelding
March 22nd, 2011
5:00 pm
Folks, we haven’t been in a “war” since WWII.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
5:00 pm
josef,
You are full of great tidbits of trivia and knowledge!
Bosch
March 22nd, 2011
5:01 pm
Oh, and josef….are so.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:02 pm
Jay:
Vietnam is listed on the Iwo Jima Memorial in Washington, D.C. as a “conflict”.
58,000 + “conflicts”
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:02 pm
A disengaged presidency
Let’s begin a thoughtful discussion about the about the dangers of a disengaged presidency while the nation is challenged by multiple wars, punishing unemployment and a festering fiscal crisis that will someday explode, unless it is addressed credibly.
The governing style and political strategy of President Obama simultaneously hurts the reelection prospects of both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and delays crucial decisions that require strong hands-on leadership from the president.
http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/brent-budowsky/151033-a-disengaged-presidency
Jay
March 22nd, 2011
5:02 pm
“not my list…”
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:02 pm
Which comes first? Constitutional law permitting free exercise of religion, or federal or state law making first degree murder illegal.
When the founders wrote the first amendment, they sure as heck didn’t contemplate a religion that requires murdering non-believers. If so, they’d a said something like “permit the free exercise of religion as long as such religion does not physically harm others”
Help me out here Jay. I know this is a ridiculous argument. I’m no legal jock. Where’s the language that says, life comes before religion.
In fact, the 5th amendment obviously provides for the execution of those as necessary…..
Just curious. Inquiring minds want to know.
Not that it is particularly relevant. The nutjobs aren’t going to let either federal, state, or constitutional law stop them….
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:03 pm
Bosch
Not so sure about the knowledge, but trivia, yes…love it…makes you sound a lot smarter than you really are..
Oh, and am not
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:03 pm
TnGelding :
If you mean a “declared one” you are correct.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:03 pm
Doggone 4:59 – nice hair splitting
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:03 pm
” I don’t think Domestic Tranquility means what you think it means. More like a national defense clause.”
Oh, I think keeping things within the borders peaceful pretty much defines “domestic tranquility”. Kinda like societal order. And you can’t have that when you can kill someone on a whim.
““Murder” is legal in many forms. Government can do it. An individual can do it in self defense.”
The government cannot “murder”. It can seek an appropriate punishment in kind for committing such, but it cannot initiate the act. And self defense is not murder. It may be the taking of a life, but again, is not initiated.
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
5:04 pm
josef nix
Nice, nice story. Art transcends all.
Was going thru a private chapel in the Rock of Cashel in Ireland last summer. Walls and ceiling had been plastered and whitewashed. Workmen chipped thru the plaster, underneath were wonderfully vivid frescoes, with gold. Work stopped as they’re figuring out who to contact to restore.
If you run into that guy again, he may want to email them -
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:04 pm
Kamchak 5:00 pm – what killing is lawful?
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:06 pm
Kamchak 5:00 pm – what killing is lawful?
Didn’t say anything about “killing”, sport.
The subject was/is “murder.”
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:06 pm
“nice hair splitting”
No, actually it isn’t. “Murder” has a specific legal meaning. If you kill someone in self-defense, you did not murder them. If the government legally executes you, you were not murdered. If someone shoots at someone else with intent to murder them, but get you instead – you were not murdered. If your wife stabs you in the middle of the night and kills you, you were murdered.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:06 pm
“Imagine how upset the left will be when Khadafy’s weapons of mass destruction are not found.” -Rush
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
jm
EOI here, but “they sure as heck didn’t contemplate a religion that requires murdering non-believers…” that was very much what they were contemplating…the European wars of religion were still fresh in their minds and they were out to do all they could to keep from repeating the same mistake here…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
Jay:
Here is the type of American Muslims we shouild have written by …… well ……… an American Muslim !
“Anxiety on all sides of upcoming House hearing on radicalization of U.S. Muslims”
By Michelle Boorstein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 26, 2011; 5:31 PM
Zuhdi Jasser leads the American Islamic Forum for Democracy.
“In some ways, Zuhdi Jasser doesn’t match the profile of the typical Muslim American. He’s an active Republican who has supported U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, advocates for Israel and says his faith harbors “an insidious supremacism.”
That final point is the core tenet of Jasser, a father of three, Navy veteran and a former doctor to Congress.
Through his nonprofit group, the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, he debates other Muslims and appears on mostly conservative media to press Muslim leaders to aggressively oppose a “culture of separatism.” He wants clerics to disavaow scripture that belittles non-Muslims and women and to renounce a role for Islam in government.
Into the void comes Jasser, who sits on the board of a nonprofit group that made two controversial films about the dangers of radical Islam. The Clarion Fund says on its Web site that the growth of the American Muslim population “is raising eyebrows from sea to shining sea. . . . And if you think that a growing Muslim population cannot threaten America, just look at Europe.”
LONG VERSION:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/26/AR2011022600330.html?hpid=topnews
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
Well, jm, there is the “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness’ verbiage in the Declaration of Independence, where “life” comes first.
Other than that, I think the other points I’ve made pretty much cover the Sharia law implementation argument.
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
Well, there goes the Democrat vote.
Black populations fall in major cities
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2011-03-22-1Ablacks22_ST_N.htm
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm
Kam 5:06 – what? your definition: the crime of UNLAWFULLY KILLING a person especially with malice aforethought
What killing is lawful?
Smeat
March 22nd, 2011
5:09 pm
Has the US spent a billion dollars on Obama’s little war in Libya yet?
I got this viral video today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v99wEjLa-E&feature=player_embedded
They’re yelling Allah Abar !, Allah Abar and then….
This will play well on Al Jazeera.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:09 pm
josef nix 5:07 – sure nough.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:10 pm
PAUL
Will pass that on to him…he might well be interested in going there to look-see anyway
I asked him how it was going in their efforts in Turkey…he said it’s really an issue between the secularists and the fundamentalists…
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
5:10 pm
Just got the ‘30-minute battery warning” on my laptop, so if it bonks out before I can find an outlet
pleasant evening, folks
Bosch
“There are idiots everywhere, Paul. No one is immune from their existence.”
No kidding. The fact they don’t know the meaning of life, the universe and everything is in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, not in the collected works of Shakespeare, is proof enough of that.
Doggone/GA
March 22nd, 2011
5:11 pm
“What killing is lawful?”
executions
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:11 pm
Smeat!!!!!!
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:12 pm
I’ve entered the Twilight Zone. I’m beginning to feel like William Shatner at 20,000 ft.
Bosch and I have agreed on something, and now Doggone and I are using the same arguments.
I knew that 5 martini lunch was a bad idea . . .
Kamchak
March 22nd, 2011
5:12 pm
Kam 5:06 – what? your definition:…
Not my definition, Merriam-Webster’s.
Take your complaint to them.
Had to cut down a tree yesterday, I killed it.
The police haven’t arrested me, so I guess that “killing” is legal.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:12 pm
AIFD – “American Islamic Forum for Democracy”
http://www.aifdemocracy.org/news.php?id=6131
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:12 pm
Dave R – well, I think the Declaration is not exactly a part of US law, except such as it separates us from the UK.
There’s got to be a case out there where some nutjob said: “My religion made me do it” and the court said – you’re loco buddy. But I’m not aware of it….
Del
March 22nd, 2011
5:13 pm
Jay, you’re displaying ignorance and or ideological captivity to the lefts absurd bias. Hopefully, it’s only the former. There is no reasonable comparison with Christian Evangelicals and Islamic Sharia law that condones outright murder of those who reject its precepts. Evangelicals simply deliver the good news of Jesus Christ and allow the Holy Spirit to take charge from there. Evangelical Christians are simply messengers, not enforcers of belief. Many on the far-left must be truly miserable human beings living in a nation founded on Christian-Judeo principles that is embraced by so many of their fellow countryman
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
5:13 pm
josef nix
“I asked him how it was going in their efforts in Turkey…he said it’s really an issue between the secularists and the fundamentalists”
No matter where you go, no matter who you talk to, it’s always the same, isn’t it?
Somehow, I’d hoped we could find some better examples of ‘we’re all the same.’
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:14 pm
“I’ve entered the Twilight Zone. I’m beginning to feel like William Shatner at 20,000 ft.”
This version is better, Dave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwEclI_ffOA&feature=related
Paul
March 22nd, 2011
5:15 pm
Would you guys PLEASE stop talking about definitions? Or Harry’s gonna magically appear and say ’socialism’…..
josef nix
March 22nd, 2011
5:15 pm
jm
@ 5:07
Warfare, capital punishment and justifiable homocide for starters…
Fedup
March 22nd, 2011
5:15 pm
Can anybody see the fruitcake is like Sarah Palin trying to sell something. They are all the same a quick get rich scheme.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:16 pm
Oh, no you don’t, WOW . . .
There is NOTHING better than the Shat!
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:16 pm
“There is NOTHING better than the Shat!’
No, but the gremlin in the 1980 version was way scarier than that crappy looking retarded teddy bear creature from the old version.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2011
5:18 pm
Well, duh! 1963 vs. 1980!
But we’re talkin’ ’bout the Shat!
Normal
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
God save us from ALL religions. Religions are man made, man isflawed, ergo rligion is flawed. Worship your God in the privacy of your heat and be silent about it.
jm
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
josef nix 5:15 – exactly. Calling Constitutional Scholar Obama….. what law says you can’t kill people even if your nutty religion says you can? I know its out there. The Waco wackos obviously were subject to it.
saywhat?
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
Del wrote “Jay, you’re displaying ignorance and or ideological captivity to the lefts absurd bias. Hopefully, it’s only the former. There is no reasonable comparison with Christian Evangelicals and Islamic Sharia law that condones outright murder of those who reject its precepts. Evangelicals simply deliver the good news of Jesus Christ and allow the Holy Spirit to take charge from there. Evangelical Christians are simply messengers, not enforcers of belief. Many on the far-left must be truly miserable human beings living in a nation founded on Christian-Judeo principles that is embraced by so many of their fellow countryman”
Oh REALLY? Is it Islamists trying to pass laws enforcing their own beliefs on abortion on the rest of us? Is it Islamists trying to enforce their beliefs against alcohol purchases on Sunday? Please show me a single proposed law in the U.S. that is an attempt by Islamists to enforce Sharia law on me.Just one instance.
Normal
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
Thats heart, but I like heat too…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
March 22nd, 2011
5:20 pm
In my opinion there are three basic types of Muslims:
1) Westernized Muslims – a very small minority of Muslims in the U.S. are in this category. They worship Allah in sincerity but they also (because of their education and secularization) embrace freedom and Western democracy. They fear the following two forms of Islam probably as much as we do.
2) Classic Muslims – most Muslims in the world fall into this category and many live in the U.S. They embrace Islam in its unbridled totality (educational, societal, legal, economic, political, governmental, military, religious, etc.,). They may not individually murder or terrorize in the name of Allah/Islam but neither to they verbally condemn those who do. Radical Islam recruits from their ranks. This type of Islam must be marginalized in the U.S. as much as possible (including closed immigration) or given enough time and volume it will ensure the destruction of this Republic as we know it.
3) Radical/Terrorist Muslims – these types of Muslims will stop at nothing to physically force their vicious schism of Islam on the world. They are pure evil and every effort must be made to totally eradicate their influence and existance from the face of the earth.
The question for all of you to answer is which kind do we want here ……….. especially for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren?
WOW
March 22nd, 2011
5:22 pm
“God save us from ALL religions.”
It’s the relationship with God that matters.