Battle lines drawn; government shutdown looms larger

Twenty-two Senate Republicans, including Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, have signed a letter to President Obama in which they threaten to hold debt-ceiling legislation hostage unless they get immediate action that reduces spending on Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare:

“Strong leadership is needed now to ensure that our entitlement programs can serve both current and future generations. Without action to begin addressing the deficit, it will be difficult, if not impossible, for us to support a further increase in the debt ceiling.”

Oddly, however, other than their demand for “strong leadership,” the senators offer no specifics. What kind of ransom are they demanding? What changes would they like to see? What exactly is their proposal?

They have none. Instead, they want President Obama to take the lead and propose changes by the artificial deadline they have set, and so far the president shows no sign of playing that game.

Obama has made his position quite clear: Yes, a long-term deal is going to have to be reached that addresses entitlement reform and budget discipline. Just yesterday, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told Congress that “It is absolutely imperative that we find a bipartisan solution to bring down our deficits dramatically.”

However, neither Geithner nor Obama believes that such changes should be held hostage to either the debt-ceiling legislation or negotiations over the 2011 budget. They don’t want government by crisis, and they feel no obligation to help Republicans escape the rhetorical trap in which they’ve placed themselves. The administration continues to insist that it wants a “clean bill” raising the debt ceiling while a longer term deal is being worked out (the latest estimate is that the current debt ceiling will be reached between April 15 and May 31.)

As Geithner also said Wednesday, “Congress has to (raise the debt ceiling). There’s no alternative.”

In the House, another interesting dynamic is playing out. Republican leaders, including House Speaker John Boehner, have publicly stressed their intention to avoid a government shutdown over the 2011 budget or the debt ceiling. However, a good number of the GOP caucus clearly have different thoughts. On Tuesday, more than 50 House Republicans voted against a temporary three-week budget resolution backed by Boehner because they considered it insufficiently conservative.

“Things don’t change in Washington until they have to,” U.S. Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., warned on the House floor. “It’s time to pick a fight.”

That sets the stage for an interesting intra-party conflict. Over the next three weeks, Boehner and his lieutenants will attempt to negotiate a compromise budget bill with Senate Democrats and President Obama to get us through the rest of 2011 without a shutdown. However, any spending bill that would satisfy the Senate and the president will be deeply unsatisfying for the conservatives who dominate the House GOP caucus. They want “to pick a fight.” They want blood. Among other things, they want to gut EPA, gut Planned Parenthood and end funding for NPR, none of which the administration is likely to accept.

If Boehner delivers a bill that can pass the Senate and be signed by the president, his own backbenchers will revolt. If he insists on a bill that his caucus will back, the federal government will shut down.

It’s quite a dilemma for the speaker.

– Jay Bookman

234 comments Add your comment

Stonethrower

March 17th, 2011
9:03 am

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:04 am

“threaten to hold debt-ceiling legislation hostage unless they get immediate action that reduces spending on Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare”

Great, it’s time to watch Obama squirm.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 17th, 2011
9:05 am

Oh well, for people who are so concerned about our fiscal issues, they sure are willing to play chicken with our economy. God help us all……

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:05 am

“Just yesterday, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told Congress that “It is absolutely imperative that we find a bipartisan solution to bring down our deficits dramatically.”’

I always find it interesting that Democrats want bipartisanship ONLY when they lose power. Obama shut the GOP out for two years and didn’t allow them into budget meetings etc.

Oh, and Tim Gietner is a tax cheat.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:09 am

“If Boehner delivers a bill that can pass the Senate and be signed by the president, his own backbenchers will revolt. ”

Obama won’t sign anything the GOP passes. Period.

“It’s quite a dilemma for the speaker.’

Mmmmmm, no not really, Jay. It’s more of a dilemma for Obama since he’s the one who’s spent us into near bankruptcy levels.

james

March 17th, 2011
9:09 am

“They don’t want government by crisis”

Interesting choice of words from a group that took an economy in crisis and went a step further to cause the gov’t to be in crisis.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:11 am

From Boortz.

The Center for Medicare and Medicaid is going to play a key role in implementing ObamaCare. However, in 2010 alone, this government agency made at least $70.5 billion in improper payments. Yes, that “billion” with a “b.” In fact, $70.5 billion is more than the entire combined expenditures of the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security – a total of $68.3 billion.

This is your imperial federal government at work! But that’s OK. No! Really! I mean, this is government! America is government! Government is what made us great!

Soothsayer

March 17th, 2011
9:11 am

Nuke-u-lar energy: what could possibly go wrong?

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:11 am

I know! Let’s send our Georgia Tea Party members up to Washington DC and let them camp out and protest until they have their way. They can huff and puff and make phoney calls like little children and threaten to rally voters against anyone that opposes them and even threaten to unleash the wrath of the Sarah Palin Kraken on them. Hey! I think it worked with Nathan Deal. What a loser.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 17th, 2011
9:12 am

Good morning all. Given that seemingly nobody is proposing serious reductions in Federal spending – which really means abolisitonis of entire agencies and commissions and departments – a shutdown would be a good “second-best.” Leave them closed for two or three years, see if anyone notices.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:13 am

“Tea Party members up to Washington DC and let them camp out and protest until they have their way.

We did. It was called the November 2, 2010 beat down of the Democrat Party.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 17th, 2011
9:13 am

Perhaps “aboilisitonis” is not a real word – looks like “abolition” after a quart of coffee.

DW

March 17th, 2011
9:14 am

@wow

where were all you deficit hawks when bush was spending like a drunken sailor? At least obama was spending to right the sinking ship that was america.. not blowing money on 2 un necessary wars! idiot

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:15 am

A couple of ways to curb debt.

1: Abolish the IRS.
2: Abolish the Dept. of Education.
3: Privatize SS
4: Abolish Obamacare.
5: Raise the retirement age.

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
9:16 am

“It’s time to pick a fight.”

Nice. How grown up.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 17th, 2011
9:16 am

The unmovable object has been hit by the unstoppable force.

Let the games begin.

By the way, Pelosi talking about fiscal responsibility out to get the “joke of the year” award.

buck@gon

March 17th, 2011
9:17 am

Obama has made his positions on critical budget and international issues VERY clear recently.

Earlier this week Barack Hussein “Nero” Obama filled out his NCAA brackets for ESPN; he played golf; and this weekend, he’s going to Rio.

Everyone got it?

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:18 am

“where were all you deficit hawks when bush was spending like a drunken sailor?”

Well, in November of 2006, I was sitting in the Bahamas on my honeymoon. I sat out that election to let the Dems wipe out the Republicans. I was pretty happy to see the Bill Frists go.

“At least obama was spending to right the sinking ship that was america’

You mean the failed stimulus packages that didn’t create jobs?

“not blowing money on 2 un necessary wars! idiot”

Hey DW, if you’re going to call me an idiot, you may want to check your “facts.” What’s that?? OH, THAT’S RIGHT, OBAMA IS STILL CONTINUING ON WITH BOTH WARS.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:18 am

“Nice. How grown up.’

I guess you have the same opinion of Obama when he said it’s time to bring a gun to a knife fight. Right, Bosch?

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:18 am

The Republicans do not have to accept Medicaid payments. They also do not have to accept Social Security or Medicare payments. They can simply refuse to sign up and just pay their own way so that money will be left for people that need it. Quit being such a burden on society, Republicans.

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
9:19 am

Ragnar,

“Leave them closed for two or three years, see if anyone notices.”

While that certainly would be interesting to see, the federal agencies’ budgets (minus Defense, of course) is so minimal, it would have no effect (or affect? — can’t ever remember that one).

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:19 am

“By the way, Pelosi talking about fiscal responsibility out to get the “joke of the year” award.”

She’s still around?

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 17th, 2011
9:20 am

Maybe we should take some advice from the Japanese and just pour water on our fiscal irresponsibilty before it melts down.

By the way, where ARE those Japanese looters ?

DW

March 17th, 2011
9:20 am

@wow nothing in there about cutting the retardedly bloated defense budget? seriously?

jconservative

March 17th, 2011
9:20 am

I do not understand why congress is demanding that the president take the “lead” in proposing spending cuts. The Constitution gives to Congress only the authority to pass legislation on taxing and spending.
All the president can do is approve, veto or ignore what Congress has done.

Everyone who believes in the Constitution should demand that Congress do its job.

For over 70 years congress had abdicated its role in governing to the executive branch. It is way pass time for congress to take back its constitutional role in taxing and spending. (And, while I am at it, its constitutional role in declaring war.)

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:20 am

“They also do not have to accept Social Security’

Tax obviously doesn’t understand what SS is.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 17th, 2011
9:20 am

WOW:

She is one of those people who doesn’t know the word “embarrassment”.

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:21 am

We did. It was called the November 2, 2010 beat down of the Democrat Party.

Sure you did. :roll:

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:21 am

“wow nothing in there about cutting the retardedly bloated defense budget? seriously?”

DW Translator 2000: He can’t argue or debate facts and therefore has to divert into childish behavior by calling other people an idiot and using words like retarded.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

March 17th, 2011
9:21 am

………… and meanwhile, the President is going to Rio?

Wonder how the golf is there? We’ll find out.

Digusting.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:22 am

“nothing in there about cutting the retardedly bloated defense budget?”

Why do you hate the military?

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:22 am

WOW obviously doesn’t understand that you do not automatically receive Social Security benefits.

But..

March 17th, 2011
9:23 am

at least you can get Obama’s Final Four picks. Very important.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:23 am

“Wonder how the golf is there? We’ll find out.’

If his golf skills are anything like his baseball skills……….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJBlwUfIoDk

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
9:24 am

jconservative,

I just hope Obama calls their bluff — tell them to shut down if they think that is what’s necessary. I’m sure that will go over well. Ask Newt.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:24 am

“obviously doesn’t understand that you do not automatically receive Social Security benefits.’

Taxpayer obviously doesn’t understand that SS comes from taxes that everyone who works, pays into. AKA: It’s their/our money to begin with.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 17th, 2011
9:24 am

I do not understand why congress is demanding that the president take the “lead” in proposing spending cuts.

It makes for great political theater and gives the chicken-sh*t legislators cover to hide while they collect their federal paychecks without doing their damned jobs.

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
9:24 am

RE: Obama and his basketball picks — he’s done that each year since he’s taken office (probably before) — why all the swooning and fainting about it now?

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:25 am

“I just hope Obama calls their bluff ‘

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
9:25 am

SoCo @ 9:24 –

TESTIFY!!!!

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:25 am

When the Social Security recipients quit getting their checks and they call in only to find out that the Republicans shut down government again, it could get interesting. Walkers, Unite!

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:26 am

“why all the swooning and fainting about it now?’

Folks, this is the kind of thinking that Democrat voters seem to all have. Look Bosch, there goes a puppy!

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:26 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Isn’t that the mating call of the mocking bird.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:27 am

“Republicans shut down government again, it could get interesting.

A government shutdown doesn’t mean that people won’t get their welfare checks or SS, Tax.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 17th, 2011
9:28 am

If they shut down the guvmint can I stop paying taxes? I mean, there’d be nobody working in guvmint to force me to pay taxes. Right? I think Paradise on Earth is just around the corner for us Conservatives.

Have a good day everybody.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:28 am

Thanks a lot, Obama.

Economy, Gas, Partisanship and War Gang Up on Confidence in Government

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-washington-post-poll-confidence-government-falls/story?id=13134173&page=1

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
9:28 am

Taxpayer,

If I’m not mistaken, the last time he GOP pulled this stunt, didn’t SS benefits still get dispersed? And Medicaid/Medicare? I was pretty young back then and my parents weren’t eligible, but someone told me that recently, so I was curious.

If that’s true, it’s more proof that this is only political theater (which it would be anyway).

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:28 am

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:29 am

Taxpayer obviously doesn’t understand that SS comes from taxes that everyone who works, pays into. AKA: It’s their/our money to begin with.

Feel free to show me your proof for making such false statements, WOW. You cannot defend your earlier post that I challenged so you divert with lies, loser. Now you can also whine that I called you a name. :roll:

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:29 am

“If I’m not mistaken, the last time he GOP pulled this stunt, didn’t SS benefits still get dispersed? ‘

Yes, Bosch. The entire government doesn’t shut down.

But..

March 17th, 2011
9:31 am

RE: Obama and his basketball picks — he’s done that each year since he’s taken office (probably before) — why all the swooning and fainting about it now?

Uh, the stuffs hitting the fan around the world, my man. Taking the time to complete a bracket is one thing, but touting it (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/03/17/president-picks-his-favorites-2010-ncaa-basketball-tournament) gives the impression that his priorities are misplaced. I wouldn’t mistake dissapointment for swooning and fainting.

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:31 am

Bosch at 9:28,

I think those that were already in the system still got their benefits but I’m not sure about folks that were trying to get enrolled to start benefits, etc. Didn’t they shut down offices?

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:32 am

“Feel free to show me your proof for making such false statements, WOW.’

Taxpayer, did you go to public school systems?

Social Security Benefits are Paid as a Legal Right and not According to Need

The Social Security program is not and was never intended to be a program to provide benefits based on need. Rather, it is a system of social insurance under which workers (and their employers) contribute a part of their earnings in order to provide protection for themselves and their families if certain events occur. Since each worker pays Social Security taxes, each worker earns the right to receive Social Security benefits without regard to need. This is one of the basic principles of the Social Security program and is largely responsible for its widespread public acceptance and support.

The fact that Social Security benefits go to some people who have high incomes has been a source of criticism. However, these persons pay into the program and play an important role in its financial base. Moreover, benefits of higher earners are subject to the income tax as a result of the 1983 Social Security amendments.

http://www.ssa.gov/kids/workfacts.htm

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:32 am

“Didn’t they shut down offices?”

No.

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
9:33 am

“Uh, the stuffs hitting the fan around the world, my man”

That too has been happening since he took office, but for some reason this year, the right is all poutraged — your choice of poutrages are silly and make you guys look as such.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:34 am

Obama: The one term president.

Obama Urged to Seize Reins as Crises Pile Up

A conflict approaching civil war in Libya. An end-times tsunami in Japan. A Congress that can’t reach a budget.

And … gender inequality?

The topic of President Obama’s weekend radio address has raised some eyebrows, as Obama has met mounting crises with the same restraint and cool that characterized his slow-and-steady campaign for president. To some critics, the tone set by the White House in light of recent upheaval may hurt the president’s public image.

Read more: http://foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/14/obama-urged-seize-reins-crises-pile/#ixzz1Grbix3K3

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:35 am

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:35 am

“your choice of poutrages are silly and make you guys look as such.”

Bosch, what is “poutrages?”

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:35 am

“Divert wow.”

TaxPayer Translator 2000: He gave up.

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
9:36 am

Taxpayer,

I think many of the workers were furloughed, many offices were closed (for five whole days) but there wasn’t a disruption of services to SS and the Medis and the post office.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:37 am

WAY TO GO TEACHERS UNIONS!!!!!

Madison schools will add 20 minutes to school day to make up for sick-outs

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/education/local_schools/article_bf93a6ba-4e8e-11e0-a6eb-001cc4c03286.html

Del

March 17th, 2011
9:37 am

“He’s not playing the game” The truth is it’s no game, he’s cowering from his leadership responsibility as the chief executive. Of course everyone knows even the lib’s that Obama wants the GOP out on point regarding the entitlement issue. He thinks they’ll take a hit from the public like Bush did when he proposed privatizing part of Social Security. Times are different now with our economy in sad shape and voters view spending control with serious measures to reduce the deficit as paramount. Republicans are calling the president out on this and his continued failure to lead will backfire in 012. Many Democrats are squirming as they know this issue can really hurt them, while those on the far left continue to live in the past.

Keep Up, the Green Unicorn!

March 17th, 2011
9:38 am

Taxpayer, from a few sources:

Social Security checks would still go out. Troops would remain at their posts. Furloughed federal workers probably would get paid, though not until later. And virtually every essential government agency, like the FBI, the Border Patrol and the Coast Guard, would remain open.
Fewer than half of the 2.1 million federal workers subject to a shutdown would be forced off the job if the Obama administration followed the path taken by presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. The rules for who works and who doesn’t date back to the early 1980s and haven’t been significantly modified since. The Obama administration hasn’t issued new guidance.

The air traffic control system, food inspection, Medicare, veterans’ health care and many other essential government programs would run as usual. The Social Security Administration would not only send out benefits but would continue to take applications. The Postal Service, which is self-funded, would keep delivering the mail. Federal courts would remain open.

The IRS wouldn’t answer its taxpayer hotline — at the height of tax-filing season. Under IRS precedents, the agency would process tax returns that contain payments. But people getting refunds would have to wait.

But..

March 17th, 2011
9:38 am

Some are blinded by a desire to be right, I guess. Poutrage, indeed.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:38 am

Good ole tolerant libs. Can’t wait until the next time some lib says that the GOP is evil.

Windows at Washington, D.C. Republican Office Shot Out

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/windows-at-washington-dc-republican-office-shot-out-031711

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
9:39 am

Del,

“he’s cowering from his leadership responsibility as the chief executive”

But as jconservative pointed out, what responsibility does he have regarding spending? That’s Congress’ job.

Where's My Party?

March 17th, 2011
9:40 am

“They don’t want government by crisis”

That made me laugh.

army guy

March 17th, 2011
9:40 am

I really love the fact that I am deployed to Afghanistan risking life and limb for a country I believe in. What I dont love is the fact the people running the country I love dont see fit to do something make sure I have paycheck to make My familt can eat, car and house paymets arent late.

Call it like it is

March 17th, 2011
9:41 am

So Jay you open up with the right has no plan, then you state they want to end funding to planned parenthood, NPR and the EPA. So which is it? Where is the plan from the left. Oh I know raise taxes, that is always the answer. The feds are a bloated whale on our beach. It needs to be cut up and thrown out. No matter where cuts are made someone is going to bitch, but at least they are making an attempt to do something, what is the chosen one doing?

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:42 am

“Where is the plan from the left.”

Their plan is to outspend Bush on every level and also to carry on Bush policies.

AmVet

March 17th, 2011
9:43 am

“…the senators offer no specifics. What kind of ransom are they demanding? What changes would they like to see? What exactly is their proposal?

They have none.”

The entire debacle called the neo-con movement was nicely summed up with those words, Jay.

Specifics are a luxury. And details are to be avoided at all costs.

Hell even the truth and reality are malleable. To hear them talk, the Iraq Campaign was a stunning success. And Iraqi oil paid for it all!

Tragically and virtually without fail, their serial, abysmal outcomes are irrelevant to the Tweedledum Party.

All that matters is the simplistic and sophomoric rhetoric.

Mission Accomplished…

Jay

March 17th, 2011
9:46 am

Call it, ending funding for NPR, Planned Parenthood and the EPA would accomplish absolutely nothing in terms of the deficit. It’s like cutting off your little finger to cure appendicitis.

So as I said, they have offered no plan.

Doggone/GA

March 17th, 2011
9:48 am

“SoCo @ 9:24 –

TESTIFY!!!!”

AMEN!!

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:48 am

“ending funding for NPR, Planned Parenthood and the EPA would accomplish absolutely nothing in terms of the deficit.”

True, but it will be fun to see the Democrat’s money cut off.

“So as I said, they have offered no plan.”

Jay, what can they seriously do? The GOP runs the House and if they do send something to be signed, it will then be voted down by the Senate.

Right now, all they can really do is cut off the purse strings for the current entitlements.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:49 am

Jay

One thing I think you’re overlooking is the fact that GOP governors are taking action to cut off entitlements in their states. Union entitlements for example.

Jay

March 17th, 2011
9:51 am

WOW, if the House passes a budget that the Senate rejects, the Senate would then be on the hook to propose its own solution.

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:52 am

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:52 am

“if the House passes a budget that the Senate rejects, the Senate would then be on the hook to propose its own solution.’

Yep, and as we both know, the Senate is controlled by the Democrats which is in line with Obama.

Jay

March 17th, 2011
9:52 am

I’m not “overlooking” it, Wow. It simply has nothing to do with what’s going on in Washington.

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:53 am

TaxPayer Translator 2000: He gave up.

Divert wow.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:54 am

“It simply has nothing to do with what’s going on in Washington.”

No, but it sure is gonna have a huge impact in the coming years. Especially with redistricting.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
9:55 am

TaxPayer

I noticed you didn’t try to rebut my posting of how SS really works.

TaxPayer

March 17th, 2011
9:58 am

Divert wow..

Del

March 17th, 2011
9:58 am

Bosch, He has the responsibility to lead. Ultimately, the president either signs legislation that Congress passes or veto’s it. During the process a sitting president is expected to utilize the influential power of the chief executive office to lead by expressing viewpoints and influencing congress in crafting legislation. Obama, isn’t performing that vital function and even Democrats are complaining.

TnGelding

March 17th, 2011
9:58 am

No threat of a shutdown. The “moderates” will prevail.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 17th, 2011
9:59 am

It’s like cutting off your little finger to cure appendicitis.

Damn Jay, can I borrow that metaphor?? I likes that one!!!

Union entitlements for example.

What the fu*k is a union entitlement? Damn, when you don’t have something concrete, you can’t paint paper-mâché gray and call it concrete, can you?

Zedd

March 17th, 2011
10:00 am

Hey Jay, the Repubs have come up with more of a plan the the Dems have. At least the Repubs have offered something instead of cowering in the corner like the scared little Dems. Oops! I forgot Reid said we have to save all that money for cowboy poetry! What a plan! They Dems think they’ll reap the rewards for letting the Repubs take point and be the fall guys, too bad that’s the best strategy they can come up with.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
10:01 am

“What the fu*k is a union entitlement?’

Guess you haven’t been paying attention to Wisconsin.

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
10:01 am

“During the process a sitting president is expected to utilize the influential power of the chief executive office to lead by expressing viewpoints and influencing congress in crafting legislation. Obama, isn’t performing that vital function and even Democrats are complaining.”

Really Del? So, I guess he’s just focusing all his attention on NCAA basketball? Come on Del, don’t be a hater to that extent.

AmVet

March 17th, 2011
10:02 am

Wherever he is, this one goes out to Bruno, the coolest and most interesting conservative I know…

Who along with the rest of is an honorary Irishman today…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQChZ52yzTo

WOW

March 17th, 2011
10:02 am

“So, I guess he’s just focusing all his attention on NCAA basketball?”

Don’t forget golf and Rio.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 17th, 2011
10:03 am

Ultimately, the president either signs legislation that Congress passes or veto’s it. During the process a sitting president is expected to utilize the influential power of the chief executive office to lead by expressing viewpoints and influencing congress in crafting legislation.

That’s what we’ve had before, and that’s what’s wrong with our political system. A simple review of high school civics would remind all that there are three separate branches of the government and not 2.5. The president should set the course, but it’s up to Congress to unfurl the sails to get the ship there. It’s time to get back to basic government and quit the power tripping type governance. Maybe, we could get the country back on track.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
10:03 am

In honor of St. Paddys

Flogging Molly – “Drunken Lullabies”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDwlGbEcJ6Y

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

March 17th, 2011
10:04 am

Guess you haven’t been paying attention to Wisconsin.

Yeah, I have. So, what is a union entitlement?

WOW

March 17th, 2011
10:05 am

“Yeah, I have. So, what is a union entitlement?’

It’s where unions feel entitled to have as much money from taxpayers as they want.

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
10:05 am

SoCo,

“So, what is a union entitlement?”

I think that’s like unicorn poop.

Del

March 17th, 2011
10:06 am

Bosch, Please get of the hate ploy it doesn’t hold up. It’s not about hating Obama, it’s about recognizing that he lacks the will, ability or sufficient prior experience to lead the country. I suspect it’s the latter.

Bosch

March 17th, 2011
10:06 am

SoCo,

“It’s where unions feel entitled to have as much money from taxpayers as they want.”

Yeah, it’s EXACTLY like unicorn poop.

WOW

March 17th, 2011
10:07 am

“Bosch, Please get of the hate ploy it doesn’t hold up. ‘

It’s all the left has anymore. Catch phrases, name calling etc…..

WOW

March 17th, 2011
10:08 am

“Yeah, it’s EXACTLY like unicorn poop.’

Like I said, catch phrases is all the left has left.