Huckabee’s policy toward Israel disqualifies him as president

MSNBC host Chris Matthews recently referred to Mike Huckabee as a lunatic, accusing him of wanting to remove all Palestinians from the West Bank in a policy that would amount to ethnic cleansing of millions of people.

Huckabee, appearing on Laura Ingraham’s radio show, quickly returned the fire.

“Chris, see a doctor,” he urged Matthews. “Do it quickly. You’re out of control. You’re off your meds. You absolutely must get help, and do it today.”

Here’s the interview:

What’s interesting about the interview is that Huckabee doesn’t try to deny the basic charge that Matthews leveled against him; he simply tries to deny that it’s lunacy. He tries to justify it.

In fact, for several years now Huckabee has laid out an undeniably radical point of view on the Israeli-Palestinian issue. For starters, he opposes creation of a Palestinian state on the West Bank, which contradicts decades of bipartisan American consensus on how to resolve that issue. But that’s not the crazy part.

Huckabee also believes and has stated repeatedly that the Palestinians have no right to any of the land where they have lived for thousands of years. In Huckabee’s mind, Israelis own it all, and in fact have the right to live anywhere in the occupied West Bank they might wish, even on land technically owned by Palestinians.

“The Jewish people have indigenous rights to the land in which they occupy and live and it goes back not 60 years or 80 years but it goes back 3,500 years,” Huckabee said on one trip to Israel, making it clear that he was referring not just to the state of Israel but all of the conquered territory on the West Bank as well, from the Mediterranean to the Jordan River.

Huckabee also has strongly opposed any international or American effort to halt the growth of Jewish settlements in the region, again because in his mind the West Bank is as much a part of Israel as Arkansas is a part of the United States.

“To tell Jewish people, ‘You cannot live here, you cannot raise your children here,’ this is the true racism, this is apartheid,” Huckabee said. “I cannot imagine as an American being told that I could not live in certain places in America because I was Christian, or because I was white, or because I spoke English.”

But he is perfectly willing to say such things to Palestinians.

Theoretically, Huckabee says, he’s fine with a Palestinian state. It just can’t be in Palestine. “There are vast amounts of territory that are in the hands of Muslims, in the hands of Arabs,” he says, suggesting that the Palestinian state — and thus the Palestinian people — be moved elsewhere.

“The question is should the Palestinians have a place to call their own? Yes, I have no problem with that,” he said in a 2009 trip to Israel. “Should it be in the middle of the Jewish homeland? That’s what I think has to be honestly assessed as virtually unrealistic.”

In the end, I don’t think Matthews was far off in his assessment of Huckabee’s position. The former Baptist preacher clearly believes that the Palestinians have no right to live where they have lived for centuries because the land was promised to Israel by God more than 3,500 years ago. He has said repeatedly — and implies it again in the Ingraham interview — that you can’t have two groups of people “living on top of each other” in that region, and that a Palestinian state has to be created outside of Palestine.

Ethnic cleansing of Arabs would seem to be the only means to achieve the goals that Huckabee sets out.

I understand that for Huckabee, this is essentially a deeply held religious belief. On religious grounds alone, I can respect that. However, I do not think it possible to elect a person with such beliefs to the presidency of the United States, where he would have the power to implement such a deeply inhumane and disastrous policy.

– Jay Bookman

218 comments Add your comment

Granny Godzilla

March 2nd, 2011
8:28 am

Mike Huckabee, nice guy, not presidential material.

Wish him well.

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
8:30 am

Jay – you realize that you have people on this very blog who have essentially said the same thing – that there is not now nor has there ever been a “Palestine”, therefore, there can be no “Palestinian people”

un. be. lievable.

Normal

March 2nd, 2011
8:30 am

Jay,
This isn’t news. Everybody except the American Talibaptists know Huclkebee is off his rocker. Too much religion will do that, you know.

For those of you who missed it…

http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/03/01/political-pictures-sarah-palin-north-korea-japan-all-look-same/

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
8:31 am

GG – ever since he said he wants to change the Constitution to make it align with the Bible, he’s DQd himself from the WH in my books …

… when he said the US is a Christian nation … welp … that was just icing on the cupcake.

this? criminey – this is just the ribbon on the closed pastry box of his political aspirations …

Barak

March 2nd, 2011
8:33 am

You realize that he’s right. The only solution is to admit that Jordan is Palestine and have Jordan absorb all of the Arabs in Israel just like Israel absorbed all of the Jews from Arab lands and survivors from the Holocaust.

Jay

March 2nd, 2011
8:35 am

USinUK, they’ll no doubt be saying those things here again, and that’s fine.

However, none of them have a realistic chance of being the GOP presidential nominee.

Granny Godzilla

March 2nd, 2011
8:36 am

USinUK

“this is just the ribbon on the closed pastry box of his political aspirations”

can I get an AMEN? or a RAMEN!

Jay

March 2nd, 2011
8:37 am

So Barak, you’re cool with the forced eviction of millions of people — men, women and children — whose families have lived on that land for literally thousands of years.

You’re fine with that — you think that’s a good idea, and ought to be American policy.

Peadawg

March 2nd, 2011
8:37 am

As we saw with Obama…being disqualified as President doesn’t mean some lunatics won’t vote him in.

Damn…neither blog today is about something important going in Georgia…gas tax hike and the personal service tax.

Techfan

March 2nd, 2011
8:41 am

” indigenous rights to the land in which they occupy and live and it goes back not 60 years or 80 years but it goes back 3,500 years” Creek, Cherokee, Lakota,….

carlosgvv

March 2nd, 2011
8:42 am

Huckabee is a far-right Christian with a mentality not unlike many of the Ayatollas we have to contend with. This kind of mindset shows up in all the lunatic fringe elements of all Religions. Electing him president would be a step toward making us like Iran.

Lord Help Us

March 2nd, 2011
8:42 am

What is the difference between Huckabee and Pat Robertson? Each is as unacceptable to lead this country as the other…

Mick

March 2nd, 2011
8:43 am

I wonder if huckabee would be as vociferous an advocate for the native americans who were here some 20,000 years before the europeans..

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
8:43 am

techfan – yep. wrong then. wrong now.

jay – as long as there are nutty-nut-nuts out there who believe this, Huckabee will hang on with a chance … kinda like Ralph Nader

jt

March 2nd, 2011
8:44 am

Huckabee’s policy toward Israel disqualifies him as president……………………..
Ditto most everyone’s else…………….
Except one………………………………….

” I do not believe we are making the United States more secure when we involve ourselves in conflicts overseas. The Constitution really doesn’t authorize us to be the policemen of the world, much less to favor one side over another in foreign conflicts. It is very clear, reading this resolution objectively, that all the terrorists are on one side and all the victims and the innocents are on the other side. I find this unfair, particularly considering the significantly higher number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians.

Mr. Speaker, There is nothing wrong with considering the fact that we don’t have to be involved in every single fight. That was the conclusion that Ronald Reagan came to, and he was not an enemy of Israel. He was a friend of Israel. But he concluded that that is a mess over there. Let me just repeat those words that he used. He said, he came to the conclusion, “The irrationality of Middle Eastern politics forced us to rethink our policy there.” I believe these words are probably more valid now even than when they were written.

Ron Paul

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
8:44 am

carlos – 8:42 – TESTIFY!

Normal

March 2nd, 2011
8:45 am

Jay

March 2nd, 2011
8:37 am

Actually Jay, it’s been done…Trail of Tears…Sensei Josef taught me well…

Joel Edge

March 2nd, 2011
8:45 am

I wish I could have seen some of this outrage during the many pronouncements of the destruction of Israel.

Normal

March 2nd, 2011
8:46 am

…But Sprout Puppy…

I thought Republicans don’t raise taxes…could I have been lied too? Oh! The shock!!!

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 2nd, 2011
8:47 am

Good morning all. I think the idea of creating a Palestinian country within the 1968 borders of Israel is lunacy, mostly because the government of Palestine is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. A Palestinian homeland on the east bank, or within Gaza is reasonable. Those Palestinians who live peacefully within the borders of Israel enjoy the benefits of Israeli citizenship, similar to those Hispanics who immigrate to the US. I have heard no argument suggesting Palestinians should be evicted from Israel, and I cannot conceive of any rational reason Israelis should not build homes anywhere on the West Bank.

The anti-Israel West Bank kerfuffle is a phony issue, manufactured by Arab dictators who need to keep their own people subjugated, to channel their anger against one other than the overlords. Similarly, American leftists give aid and support to the effort due to the anti-Israel attitude endemic to national socialists.

USMC dawg

March 2nd, 2011
8:48 am

Jay Bookman’s ANTISEMITISM shines again!

Anti-Jewish, Jay?

Jay

March 2nd, 2011
8:48 am

Joel, don’t try the distraction angle.

Do you or do you not think Huckabee’s approach is deeply inhumane and dangerous?

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
8:48 am

Joel – when a US presidential candidate says something like that, you will.

of course, I’m sure you don’t mind when one of them co-opts words like “holocaust” and “blood-libel” to make a trivial point about their wittle feelings …

Normal

March 2nd, 2011
8:49 am

dawg,
Did the Marine Corp drop you on your head?

Jay

March 2nd, 2011
8:50 am

The 1968 borders of Israel, Ragnar?

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
8:50 am

USMC – I think the phrase anti-genocide is more accurate.

not that accuracy has ever been important to you …

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
8:50 am

Normal – dropping him on his head once was a mistake … more than once … well … it was a message …

Peadawg

March 2nd, 2011
8:51 am

“I thought Republicans don’t raise taxes…could I have been lied too? Oh! The shock!!!” – Yup we were lied to. It seems like neither party is worth a damn these days. Neither wants to make the necessary cuts. Both parties are worried about 1 thing and 1 thing only…saying what needs to be said to get elected.

AmVet

March 2nd, 2011
8:52 am

“…kinda like Ralph Nader”

ex-pat, please do expound. (Warning! I’m apparently a nutty-nut-nut! LOL at me!)

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
8:53 am

AmVet – otp – plz hold

AmVet

March 2nd, 2011
8:54 am

“That was the conclusion that Ronald Reagan came to…”

True, he just covertly, and sometimes illegally, aided, abetted and armed pretty much every murderous right wing dictator and brutal thug around the globe…

jt

March 2nd, 2011
8:55 am

In Lebanon, Israel, and Gaza………it is American weapons…………………
Go strap on a flak jacket Mr. Shuckabee……………………..

“The conflict in Gaza and the West Bank is almost like a schoolyard fight: when America and the world stand watching, neither side will give an inch for fear of appearing weak. But deep down, the people who actually have to live there desperately want an end to the violence. They don’t need solutions imposed by outsiders. It’s easy to sit here safe in America and talk tough, but we’re not the ones suffering.

Practically speaking, our meddling in the Middle East has only intensified strife and conflict. American tax dollars have militarized the entire region. We give Israel about $3 billion each year, but we also give Egypt $2 billion. Most other Middle East countries get money too, some of which ends up in the hands of Palestinian terrorists. Both sides have far more military weapons as a result. Talk about adding fuel to the fire! Our foolish and unconstitutional foreign aid has produced more violence, not less.

.

The simple truth is that we cannot resolve every human conflict across the globe, and there will always be violence somewhere on earth. The fatal conceit lies in believing America can impose geopolitical solutions wherever it chooses.”

Ron Paul

ty webb

March 2nd, 2011
8:56 am

“Ethnic cleansing of Arabs would seem to be the only means to achieve the goals that Huckabee sets out.”

Jay,
Let me guess. You pulled out the ol’ “jump to conclusions” mat for that one?

jt

March 2nd, 2011
8:58 am

AmVet————

“True, he just covertly, and sometimes illegally, aided, abetted and armed pretty much every murderous right wing dictator and brutal thug around the globe…”

As opposed to…………………………………?

stands for decibels

March 2nd, 2011
9:00 am

sigh. For years, I’ve clung to the notion that Huckabee had a redeeming streak of sanity in him, based mostly on two things.

1) Based on how he governed, I assume he isn’t allergic to tax increases.

2) He was probably the only American conservative to get Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s back (and, by extension, Obama’s) when everyone else was dumping on the man for one (1) quoted-out-of-context sermon, back in the Spring of 2008. That took some courage.

But between this, and his apparent belief that Obama was raised in Kenya? I think I’m done apologizing for him.

Jay

March 2nd, 2011
9:01 am

OK, Ty, I’ll bite.

What’s your alternative approach toward reaching Huckabee’s goals? How else will you separate the two peoples, make the West Bank safe for Jewish settlers to live anywhere they wish and create a Palestinian state somewhere other than Palestine.

What’s YOUR plan for achieving those goals?

Gale

March 2nd, 2011
9:01 am

We have tried to be peacemakers in that area since Israel was created. We have failed utterly. We should withdraw all but humanitarian support and let them solve their own problems. They lived next to one another for thousands of years. Let them figure it out again.

AmVet

March 2nd, 2011
9:01 am

jt, I don’t follow your 8:58. Please clarify…

Joel, USMC dawg and especially Rag, answer one simple question for me, if you dare.

Why is it that American Jews ALWAYS vote overwhelmingly against you supposed friends of Israel?

md

March 2nd, 2011
9:01 am

“Jay – you realize that you have people on this very blog who have essentially said the same thing – that there is not now nor has there ever been a “Palestine”, therefore, there can be no “Palestinian people”

un. be. lievable.”

“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan” – Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein

Just sayin…………

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
9:02 am

AmVet – referring to the committed few who are loyal supporters.

I used to like Ralph until he said that there was no discernable difference between Gore and Bush (jsut before Bush repealed clean water guidelines) … then I lost all respect for him.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 2nd, 2011
9:04 am

Dear Jay @ 8:50, good morning. “The 1968 borders of Israel, Ragnar?” Sure, why not. One year after Israel was attacked by the Arab forces. They took the West Bank and Gaza and Golan Heights, not in a war of aggression, but in defense. When Egypt offered a sincere peace, Israel gave up the Gaza. Syria is still belligerent, so Golan is still a smart defensive hold. I cannot think of a reason Israel should not keep and develop the West Bank, other than the objections of dictators and leftists, neither of which persuades me.

I heared he was an Ayrab

March 2nd, 2011
9:05 am

Not really surprised here. But I expect the same standard to be applied everywhere else, especially northern Georgia and parts of Tennessee. The people with rights to that land are the Cherokee, so all those areas are to be handed back to the original owners from thousands of years ago.

Stupidity seems to be a common trait among southern republicons

Joel Edge

March 2nd, 2011
9:08 am

Jay@8:48
No distraction. I believe Matthews used the term “ethic cleansing”, not Huckabee. I’m surprised you didn’t post a link to the actual Huckabee comments. Simple fact is: no one wants the Palestinians. Well, except as a tool to bash Israel. I’m just saying that all this mock outrage has been absent when it comes to the wiping out of the Jewish people. I wonder why that is, Jay.
BTW, I am not remotely Jewish, or even very religious.

md

March 2nd, 2011
9:09 am

Interesting how everybody picks their arbitrary point in time and then defends it as the best solution…….

Wonder what arbitrary point in time the American Indian would like to go back to……….

godless heathen

March 2nd, 2011
9:09 am

US Citizen, over 35 years of age, he’s qualified.

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
9:10 am

md – you seem to have missed the “nor has there ever been” part of my statement

http://www.thenazareneway.com/map_of_ancient_palestine.htm

of course, there is no official “Palestinian” people NOW since Palestine is not a recognized state.

carlosgvv

March 2nd, 2011
9:11 am

USinUK

Can I get an AMEN???

Belinda

March 2nd, 2011
9:11 am

Good points, Jay. Thanks for informing us.

Normal

March 2nd, 2011
9:12 am

Peadawg

March 2nd, 2011
8:51 am

I think you’ve seen the light old boy…welcome to American Politics and alway, ALWAYS look with jaundiced eye at ALL of them…then, when at the voting booth, reach into your pocket and pull out a coin. Flip it and choose your vote accordingly. :)

buck@gon

March 2nd, 2011
9:12 am

WM Jay,

“Ethnic cleansing of Arabs would seem to be the only means to achieve the goals that Huckabee sets out.”

Completely lost to liberals is the argument because of their misunderstanding of moral equivalence, which is what Huckabee’s position simply is. So called Palestinians who essentially lost “their” land, which is really land that belonged to other countries prior to what can only be called legal or justified occupation based on wartime laws, simply want, with their sponsor states of Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia to commit ethnic cleansing against the Jews. Huckabee can’t bring this about, of course, anymore than Obama can ethnically cleanse the mideast of Jews. What Huckabee can do is give Israel a powerful negotiating position by his support of conservative Israeli actions. He, at least, would strengthen and comfort an ally that our current amateurish foreign policy President has alienated and spurned.

Doggone/GA

March 2nd, 2011
9:13 am

“US Citizen, over 35 years of age, he’s qualified.”

He’s eligible, not necessarily qualified: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States”

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
9:13 am

carlos – even better – you can get a RAMEN!!

Adam

March 2nd, 2011
9:13 am

Well heck, if the Israelis can live anywhere, why stop there? They should be allowed to live in all of Egypt, Libya, and anywhere they want in the U.S. without any interference!

It actually is lunacy to insist upon doing things this way. I guess he thinks the only solution is to force a confrontation that one side (the Palestinians) will lose dramatically. Doesn’t recent history show that kind of thing doesn’t work?

Jay

March 2nd, 2011
9:13 am

Joel, do you or don’t you agree that Huckabee’s position here is radically dangerous, especially if espoused by an American president?

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2011
9:13 am

Ethic cleansing! The Republicans are all leaving!

JKL2

March 2nd, 2011
9:14 am

Jay and granny- Mike Huckabee, nice guy, not presidential material

Thanks again for your faux interest in potential Republican Presidential candidates. We are all holding our breath waiting for your endorsement.

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2011
9:17 am

If Republicans want to pick Huckabee over their more qualified presidential candidates such as Palin and McCain and Gingrich and Barbour and Bush, et al, more power to them.

jt

March 2nd, 2011
9:17 am

AmVet

March 2nd, 2011
9:01 am

jt, I don’t follow your 8:58. Please clarify…

The foreign policy that you denigrate Sir Reagan with did not end with him. Nor begin.
Our foreign policy is, and has been, a disaster since the day government/business realized that they could use government force to trade instead of old-fashioned voluntary camel trading.

It is much easier to use government power, might, force,coercion, and the blood of youth,……………..than to honestly “trade” with the Arabs and Jews eventhough everyone wants a 58 inch 3-D TV and trash culture. It is harder work than selling weapons. The State allows the easy way out.

Doesn’t make it right.

Only Ron Paul speaks truth to power.

Joel Edge

March 2nd, 2011
9:17 am

Jay@9:13
As soon as I read it, I’ll let you know. Got a link for it? Or you just going by what Chris Matthews says?

AmVet

March 2nd, 2011
9:19 am

USinUK, ah, gotcha.

No worries. He’s pretty adamant about the failed status quo and to a large extent I think he is correct about the negligible difference between Tweedledee and Tweedledum Parties.

Don’t write him off though, he has a lot of great things to say…

ty webb

March 2nd, 2011
9:19 am

Jay,
I don’t really care. For the most part, it has nothing to do with how I pay the mortgage or put food on the table. But to qoute a smart man, the solution is “above my pay grade”. I only took issue with you charging huckabee with wanting to ethnically cleanse a group of people. Someone brought up “subtext” earlier this AM on last evening’s topic below. And I think to say that Huckabee wanted to “ethnically cleanse” the “Palestinians” conjures up images of mass graves. That’s unfair to Huckabee, who I do not particularly care for. I don’t profess to have the answers, but I’m fine with with letting them (arabs and israelis) fight it out.

md

March 2nd, 2011
9:21 am

“you seem to have missed the “nor has there ever been” part of my statement”

Merely pointing out that even some Palestinians have said there are no such thing as Palestinians…..

If you want to really get into it, since the people’s that make up what is referred to as “Palestinians” hail from an area that includes today’s Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Israel, why do the Palestinians only want the land occupied by Israel??

Del

March 2nd, 2011
9:21 am

So Jay wants to disqualify Huckabee as a presidential candidate. He’s disqualified, Palin, Gingrich, Romney and pretty much every other Republican. Maybe Jay’s trying to start a disqualifier movement. So now we’ll have deniers, truthers, birthers, and disqualifiers.

Dave R.

March 2nd, 2011
9:24 am

“Huckabee’s policy toward Israel disqualifies him as president”

But Jay, I thought the Constitution clearly outlines the qualifications for President . . . :)

And I don’t see the words, “a usually wrong opinion columnist in Atlanta gets to determine qualifications . . .” in that laudable text.

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
9:24 am

md – “even some Palestinians have said there are no such thing as Palestinians” … because they are not CURRENTLY an officially recognized state.

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2011
9:25 am

I think the Republicans threw Romney under the bus all by themselves and chose to keep Palin and McCain and Barbour and Gingrich, et al, because they tend to be more in tune with their constituency.

md

March 2nd, 2011
9:25 am

And how about a little condemnation for the Palestinians since the Hamas Charter calls for the “destruction” of Israel……….is that to be completed without “ethnic cleansing”?

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
9:25 am

“And I don’t see the words, “a columnist in Atlanta gets to determine qualifications . . .” in that laudable text.”

and it’s the poorer for it.

:-)

Dave R.

March 2nd, 2011
9:27 am

Oh, and Matthews has been off his nut for about 2 or 3 years now. He wasn’t liberal enough for the new direction his masters at MSNBC wanted to go, so he just listens for their dog whistle and barks incessantly whenever it goes off now.

Peadawg

March 2nd, 2011
9:28 am

“Flip it and choose your vote accordingly. ” – That’s actually not a bad idea.

From ‘Two For the Money’ – “I say if you can flip a coin to make a pick,” I can flip a coin to cast a vote. :)

Jay

March 2nd, 2011
9:28 am

I provided the quotes, Joel. You can Google them.

Joel Edge

March 2nd, 2011
9:29 am

I found this.
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/22640/Default.aspx
Pretty tame so far. Boils down to saying a Palestinian state can’t be built on a destroyed Israel. Which seems to be current wish for the destruction of Israel. He’s hardly proposing “ethnic cleansing”. If the Palestinians were more amendable to stop attacking Israel…

ty webb

March 2nd, 2011
9:29 am

md,
regarding your 9:25. Great point. The silence is deafening.

Joel Edge

March 2nd, 2011
9:30 am

Jay@9:28
I did. Hardly worth all this ginned up outrage.

carlosgvv

March 2nd, 2011
9:31 am

USinUK

What is a ramen? Is that a British thing?

AmVet

March 2nd, 2011
9:31 am

“;;;Reagan…did not end with him.”

Technically true.

He was just far away the very worst when it came to get hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women an children killed from one end of the planet to the other just because the addled old fool saw nothing but red…

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
9:32 am

md – gosh. is there a member of Hamas running for president??

I missed that announcement.

StJ

March 2nd, 2011
9:33 am

I suppose if Huckabee advocated the destruction of Israel, you guys would be throwing a party.

I quit caring about the Palestinians when I saw the video of them dancing in the streets after 9/11.

md

March 2nd, 2011
9:34 am

Don’t necessarily agree with Huckabee, but I see his position as a stronger negotiating position…..nothing more, nothing less………why should Israel be the only country of the 4 to give up territory for a Palestinian State??

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
9:34 am

carlos – sorry … it’s a Flying Spaghetti Monster thing … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_spaghetti_monster (scroll down to the end of “Beliefs”)

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
9:35 am

“I suppose if Huckabee advocated the destruction of Israel, you guys would be throwing a party.”

ohsweetjeebus.

you guys and your dramaqueeniness.

what would you have without it? just a tiara and tattered throne.

md

March 2nd, 2011
9:38 am

“md – gosh. is there a member of Hamas running for president??”

Did Huckabee call for “ethnic cleansing”?

Merely trying to level the playing field from some trumped up charges by Jay…..

Since Mike never even mentioned the words “ethnic cleansing”, I find it a bit worrisome that a writer would use such terminology……….

Paul

March 2nd, 2011
9:38 am

“has stated repeatedly that the Palestinians have no right to any of the land where they have lived for thousands of years…

“Theoretically, Huckabee says, he’s fine with a Palestinian state. It just can’t be in Palestine…

“The former Baptist preacher clearly believes that the Palestinians have no right to live where they have lived for centuries…

“whose families have lived on that land for literally thousands of years….”

So I’m sure we’ll hear/have heard “where in ‘Palestine?’ What constitutes parts of present-day Israel? Egypt? Jordan? Syria? If one invokes the ‘centuries’ argument one should address those areas, not just the parts occupied by Israel.

And Normal brought up the josef nix variant, to which I’ll add “We have Native Americans on reservations with some degree of autonomy. We sure didn’t grant them their own nations.”

First off, as I see it, in the Arab pecking order, Palestinians occupy the rung on the ladder somewhat lower than Latinos and African Americans occupy in the view of white-robed clad Klansmen. Much less than equals. Pawns to be used to preserve power and direct hatred towards Israel.

Second, it’s the entire ‘go back years’ mindset that hinders current-day solutions.

Third, there are a sizeable chunk of Israelis who will risk for peace. Palestinians, also. But the ones who won’t have a great deal of power. Add to that the reality that Palestinians will dance in the streets over the murder of Israeli women and children, but Israelis don’t celebrate the deaths of Palestinians and you have a logjam that’s tough to break.

What, for me, disqualifies Huckabee on this issue is he is not advancing America’s strategic interest, which is a stable Middle East. His is the path of American-encouraged long-term instability and conflict. That’s an okay position for a news commentator. But not for a president.

AmVet

March 2nd, 2011
9:39 am

“I suppose if Huckabee advocated the destruction of Israel, you guys would be throwing a party.”

As the three amigos won’t offer up any replies, what about you StJ?

Why is it that American Jews ALWAYS vote overwhelmingly against you supposed friends of Israel?

md

March 2nd, 2011
9:41 am

“Theoretically, Huckabee says, he’s fine with a Palestinian state. It just can’t be in Palestine. ”

Distortion……not at all what the man said. “Palestine” covers a much larger area than just the West bank and Gaza……….

carlosgvv

March 2nd, 2011
9:43 am

USinUK

The State of Georgia desperately needs it’s own RAMEN. You probably know that already from the comments you see here.

kayaker 71

March 2nd, 2011
9:46 am

Bookman,

“Displaced millions of people who had lived there for thousands of years”…… guess what conquered he West, my friend. They’re called reservations.

AmVet

March 2nd, 2011
9:46 am

“Palestine” covers a much larger area than just the West bank and Gaza……….

I never knew that. What other areas?

Left wing management

March 2nd, 2011
9:47 am

He has said repeatedly — and implies it again in the Ingraham interview — that you can’t have two groups people “living on top of each other” in that region, and that a Palestinian state has to be created outside of Palestine”

The ideology of segregation lives on.

Bosch

March 2nd, 2011
9:47 am

From what I’ve read on the topic over the past few years, a majority of Israelis are in favor of a Palestinian state. As always it’s the Zionists and Christian fundamentalists who yell the loudest and get heard more, but the moderates want a permanent solution for the Palestinians.

Hell, even folks like Harvey Weinstein are in favor of a Palestinian state.

Don't Forget

March 2nd, 2011
9:48 am

“Theoretically, Huckabee says, he’s fine with a Palestinian state. It just can’t be in Palestine…

Sounds a lot like that Iranian president’s view of Isreal.

Jimmy62

March 2nd, 2011
9:50 am

He’s right on one thing that people seem to like to forget. People seem to think there were Jews there thousands of years ago, and there have been Jews there since modern Israel was created in 1948, but most people don’t seem to realize that there were communities of Jews there in the many centuries in between as well. Not as many, but there have always been Jews there continuously.

Doggone/GA

March 2nd, 2011
9:50 am

“But Jay, I thought the Constitution clearly outlines the qualifications for President”

Eligibility…not qualifications

Normal

March 2nd, 2011
9:51 am

lovelyliz

March 2nd, 2011
9:52 am

Sounds like Mike Huckabee is better suited to be a neo-con preacher or Fox “news” contributor than president

Jimmy62

March 2nd, 2011
9:52 am

Bosch: I don’t think what you call Zionist is correct. Zionists can be moderate, too. It simply means you want a Jewish homeland in Israel, it does NOT mean anything one way or the other as far as Palestinians go. Wanting a Jewish homeland in Israel doesn’t necessarily mean you have a problem with a Palestinian state as well.

Paul

March 2nd, 2011
9:55 am

lovelyliz

“neo-con preacher”?!!?

Is that like Louis Farrakhan?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 2nd, 2011
9:55 am

Well, everybody knows all these Palestinians are just Towelheads that live in tents and run around wearing bathrobes and sandles. They can just move anywhere without much trouble. Bookman wouldn’t be blasting the Rev. Huckabee if it wasn’t for the fact that Bookman is a heathen and not a Christian at all.

Not that I got any use for the Jews either. After all, they’re Jews and not Christians. We shouldn’t be getting ourselfs involved in fights between Jews and Towelheads. We got our own troubles right here in the U. S. of A., beginning with a President that wasn’t even born here and is in the White House illegally. Anybody would be better—unless he was a flaming librul and Socialist.

That’s my view and the GA view and the right view. Have a good day everybody.

stands for decibels

March 2nd, 2011
9:56 am

Why is it that American Jews ALWAYS vote overwhelmingly against you supposed friends of Israel?

AmVet’s assertions are backed up by the exit polling data I’ve seen—I believe it was about ¾ of the Jewish vote going for Obama in 2008.

So, um, rightie-regulars? An answer to that, pretty please with candied cherries on top?

Also, if Jay’s such an “anti-Semite,” (echoing Bosch @ 9.47, here) does that mean that the American and Isreali Jews who share his beliefs on these issues are also anti-Semitic?

Fred

March 2nd, 2011
9:57 am

USinUK

March 2nd, 2011
8:30 am

Jay – you realize that you have people on this very blog who have essentially said the same thing – that there is not now nor has there ever been a “Palestine”, therefore, there can be no “Palestinian people”

un. be. lievable.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It’s a historical fact USinUK, not opinion or belief. Another historical fact is that when Israel was created in 1948 the Jews begged the Palestinians to stay and live, yet they left and joined the Jihad. The atrocities committed by both “sides” in the ensuing 60+ years are uncountable. But it could have been avoided had the Muslims NOT decided they were going to finish what Hitler started.

Read a little history, do some research……………