A tribute to natural talent for the Travelin’ Music home
A lot of singers — not all, these days, but a lot — have good voices. But every once in a while you hear a gift so unique that it makes you pay attention immediately. Aretha was such a voice. Barbra Streisand was such a voice. Dinah Washington too.
And now Adele.
BTW, this one is dedicated to Miss Julie. Yesterday we marked our 32nd year as husband and wife, with many more to come, I’m sure.
– Jay Bookman
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February 25th, 2011
3:54 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JOwxnVoG6Q&feature=related
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
3:55 pm
P.S.
Congratulations.
Approaching 40 years !
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
3:56 pm
Mazel Tov, you old f*rt, and many, many more!
Logical Dude
February 25th, 2011
3:58 pm
Hope Sandoval of Mazzy Star has such a voice also. Doesn’t matter what she’s singing, it’s mesmerizing.
Joe the Plutocrat
February 25th, 2011
3:58 pm
fer sure I thought you’d fire up some early 80’s Tom Petty in honor of Wisconsin Governor Walker…
from the chorus: “…and it wasn’t no way to carry on, it wasn’t no way to live, but he could put up with it for a little while, he was working on something big” and the final verse: “…and one said ‘I know I’ve seen his face, I wonder who he is’ and the other said, ‘he’s probably just another clown, workin’ on something big’…”
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
3:59 pm
“Lawmakers come under fire in Iraq”
Good experience for them !
@@
February 25th, 2011
4:00 pm
Miss….Julie!!??!!
Congratulations, jay.
Joe the Plutocrat
February 25th, 2011
4:01 pm
oh, and JB, how ’bout something with a little sack? you’re like three for three with estro-pop in February
Nice Guy
February 25th, 2011
4:05 pm
Jay – dude, you’re hot and cold man. One day you nail it, the next day you give us Adele??
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
4:07 pm
GO CHARLIE !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlzOZiB1w14&feature=related
Adam
February 25th, 2011
4:09 pm
If I ever forget it’s Friday, these posts always remind me
Dusty
February 25th, 2011
4:10 pm
Ella Fitzgerald! Ella Fitzgerald! Now there’s a voice!
Miz Julie….she be one strong woman….
jm
February 25th, 2011
4:10 pm
“Good experience for them !”
Pogo
February 25th, 2011
4:11 pm
I think the most naturally strong and pure set of pipes I have ever heard in my life was when I was cycling on a South Georgia county maintained road in the area that I live in some years ago. A child, who sounded female and around 8-9 years of age, was somewhere in the back of the shack in which they lived belting out some religious song. The child was absolutely gifted. I have listened to one hell of a lot of music in my life but that child’s voice left a lifelong impression on me. A couple of years after I heard her I went back by that place and the building had collapsed and there was no one there. Talent is handed out in mysterious ways and I hope that that little girl will someday make the transition from shack dweller to artist. But I don’t hold out much hope for her.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
4:18 pm
josef:
Just for you !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0uq1vNHIUI&feature=related
jt
February 25th, 2011
4:20 pm
Progressive or neo-con…………….
a marraige is to be admired.
Congrats.
A killer Pete Townsend version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpY_w2lpCHc
Peadawg
February 25th, 2011
4:25 pm
I don’t have time to post all the links but just search ‘run away’ on youtube(A tribute to those Democrats who ran to Illinois).
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
4:26 pm
Scout
Nice choice…thanks…
Logical Dude
February 25th, 2011
4:28 pm
Del Shannon’s Runaway
Great song!
And a great tribute to the Democrats LOL
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
4:29 pm
32 years?
You kray-zee libruls, with your open-ended notions about marriage, commitment and morality…
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
4:30 pm
Great Elvis Immitation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_iksiEdDbE&feature=related
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
4:31 pm
josef:
You’re welcome …………….. ;O
Hey, new Social Secretary today !
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
4:32 pm
For all the good men and women standing in solidarity in WI, however things turn out on this specific issue, here is one Great Universal Truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwcKwGS7OSQ
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
4:34 pm
If you ain’t got the dough-re-mi, you wanna buy a home or farm, you better go back…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbulO_FB2ZI&feature=related
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
4:37 pm
“In Louisville, hearing for the first time of union locals and closed shops, the veteran declared that if any authority “told me that I couldn’t hire anyone but the man they said, why, I’d tell them all to go” and replace them with workers who “never heard of any other union except the union of democracy!”
Alvin C. York
Medal of Honor
WW I
(Killed 24 Germans and captured 132 in one engagement)
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
4:41 pm
Jay…for you to the Missus….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3HAJ4DjMhY
Dave R.
February 25th, 2011
4:43 pm
3:48, and Jay posts his FNTM?
Someone’s going home a bit early today . . .
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
4:43 pm
I fought the greatest leaders, and licked ‘em, every one
That’s about the biggest thing man has ever done…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB-YnV0e3Lc&feature=related
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February 25th, 2011
4:43 pm
“Everybody stand up and holler for the union let’s give the brother’s a cheer
Everybody stand up and holler for the union I ain’t hit a lick all year
Worked in the mill and I worked on the dock I worked for the railroad lines
Before I hit a lick under union scale I’ll carry this picket sign
Everybody stand up and holler for the union…
Money’s all gone and I’ll admit got holes in both of my shoes
But I’m still a smokin’ this big cigar and payin’ my union dues
Everybody stand up and holler for the union…
Lived on boloney nearly all of my life a waitin’ for a higher wage
I never had a taste of a t-bone steak cause the steer ain’t union made
Too old to work too broke to quit when I get to the end of the line
I may walk into a pauper’s grave but I’ll carry this picket sign
Everybody stand up and holler for the union…
Everybody stand up and holler for the union…”
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
4:48 pm
makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to know that someone’s out there covering Mojo Nixon’s update of Phil Och’s “Love me, I’m a liberal”
“I love punk rockers and rappers,
So long as they don’t move next door…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmXBvDBD0k
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
4:48 pm
All the best and many more, Mr and Mrs. Bookman!
Back at ya, jt…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF1sVrFCkrY&feature=fvw
Jay
February 25th, 2011
4:49 pm
Thanks Josef. Amazing where the time goes. Just ran into a little tyke I coached in soccer a few years back. Suddenly she’s a junior at Emory, studying neuroscience.
I expect that happens to you all the time.
TaxPayer
February 25th, 2011
4:49 pm
Happy Anniversary, Jay. We’re celebrating 22 years this year and looking forward to many more. My tribute.
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
4:51 pm
Just ran into a little tyke I coached in soccer a few years back. Suddenly she’s a junior at Emory, studying neuroscience.
wooo. Teh Skary.
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
4:54 pm
My better dirty-effing-hippy half and I passed the two-decade mark last year.
If anyone’s interested, here was our first-dance selection at our wedding. Which says a lot about us, really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzeNAUOp17c
I feel so extraordinary, something’s got a hold on me…
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
4:54 pm
Got our own coming up on the 4th, so a little shmaltzy, but, hey, when it’s more than three decades and counting, what’s wrong with a little shmaltz…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r2pEdc1_lI
Mick
February 25th, 2011
4:55 pm
Jay – Congratulations to you and your wife, that’s cool….here’s a double tribute…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMg8lRYOXMA&feature=related
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
4:58 pm
JAY
It does and it’s really the greatest feeling in the world when they bring up something they remember and tell you “thank you…” It makes all the cr*p we have to put up with so insignificant…
md
February 25th, 2011
4:58 pm
“BTW, this one is dedicated to Miss Julie. Yesterday we marked our 32nd year as husband and wife”
Seems she has been “Miss” for at least 32 years………….
Congrats……at least you got that part right.
md
February 25th, 2011
4:59 pm
Helps if I put the n’t where it belongs…………..
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
5:05 pm
Some of the best of that cheesey 80’s sound…
We started drinkin’, weren’t thinkin’ too straight
She was doin’ 80 and she slammed on the brakes
Got so high we had to pull to the side
We did some shakin’ til the middle of the night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA1wDgPZCDA
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
5:06 pm
Helps if I put the n’t where it belongs…
perhaps, but it kinda works as originally posted, too.
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
5:07 pm
and from the locals for us incurable and happily hitched romantics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FT5QF4JZUA
Mick
February 25th, 2011
5:08 pm
Cheezy 80’s mtv – here’s to the one’s we lost-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m36qRP7zPEk
saywhat?
February 25th, 2011
5:09 pm
Married 32 years? Either thats a very old picture of you up top, or you got married while in highschool. Congrats anyway. It been 20 for me.
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
5:10 pm
re: j-nix’s link @ 4.54
“only you can make all this world seems right…”
I love me some transcribed-by-the-Japanese Karaoke lyrics, j-nix.
My favorite example–a video of John Lennon’s “Imagine,” which rendered “Imagine no possessions” as “Imagine ALL possessions…”
It’s easy if you try, like, imagining you own ALL the stuff, man!
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
5:12 pm
This one has that anthemic feel to it, but as long as we’re going all sappy!
(JoeC. covers a sweet Bryan Adams song…)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctkGCIqUWVo
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
5:23 pm
That link to “Truth Faith” had me thinking that there are times when I will posit that New Order was, in fact, the most important band of the 80s, and that if you don’t agree, I will fight you.
see also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRqdOyMnnxM
stands for decibels
February 25th, 2011
5:24 pm
anyway, gotta go put some food on my fambly. Later!
Mick
February 25th, 2011
5:24 pm
What happens to the unfaithful one’s…lookout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-_AaWq-f5w&feature=related
Joe the Plutocrat
February 25th, 2011
5:26 pm
JB, every hear this one; “… my wife and I are celebrating 25 years as a happily married couple… of course, we’ve been married for 35 years.” (rimshot). been married for 8 years (’85-’89 and ‘99 -’03) and divorced for 18 (’89-’99 and ‘03-present). trying to make it 20, but my current flame wants to get hitched. josef, help me out. can I plead “I’m gay” and as such be denied the right to marry the my mate (even if I’m a he and she’s a she – with apologies to Lou Reed)?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 25th, 2011
5:30 pm
Well, I hope Miss Julie is as good a wife as the missus. Only maybe a little lighter. Happy Anniversary to Bookman. 32 years is a pretty good start. I expect she’s a saint to put up with a raving librul in her house. They can’t all get the perfect husband like the missus did.
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 25th, 2011
5:33 pm
Congrats Jay.
This’n is for somebody who’ll be missed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti4G1AX0v-g
kayaker 71
February 25th, 2011
5:34 pm
If I added them all up, I could come with 45. Nice going, Bookman. If that 45 would have been all with the same person, think of the money I could have saved.
Mick
February 25th, 2011
5:34 pm
If you find one, you’re lucky as hell-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFNqj3RGUuM&feature=related
SOUTHERN ATL
February 25th, 2011
5:36 pm
Jay,
Congratulations on 32 years of marriage!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc3Sz72ZXd0
Joe the Plutocrat
February 25th, 2011
5:36 pm
and a dude who coached chicks playing soccer! don’t get me wrong, there ain’t a more socialist, Keynan, liberal, left-wing sport – god bless Sarah Palin, a real American Hockey Mom. in the interest of full disclosure, coached my daughter’s soccer team in ‘05 and ‘06. I’m off to put the spinach, beets and collards in. don’t tell Obama – he’ll wanna tax my garden………
Mick
February 25th, 2011
5:41 pm
yaker
I feel for you but-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMwZsFKIXa8
Adam
February 25th, 2011
5:44 pm
Only half of America knows that the health care law is still in place!
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/poll-barely-half-of-americans-know-health-care-law-hasnt-been-repealed.php?ref=dcblt
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
5:45 pm
stands,
Me and the OB made it one year past two decades back in January — the oldest Boschling will be 21 later in the Spring — ….hehehehehehe. We were dirty effin’ hippies living in sin in the Athens.
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
5:47 pm
kayaker,
So between Jay, stands, and I we have 54 years of marriage between us — and you have to add up your to 45 — remember that next time you preach your “liberals ain’t got no morals”
carlosgvv
February 25th, 2011
5:52 pm
If you played recordings of Aretha and Barbara Streisand 24/7 to the prisoners at Gitmo, they would fall all over themselves telling all their secrets just to stop that godawful howling and screeching.
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
5:56 pm
And this was our the first song we danced to after we got hitched:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TWd3skb-Rw
Which tells alot about as well…Cat Stevens wasn’t there to sing it though…he was invited but had a previous engagement it seems.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 25th, 2011
5:57 pm
Happy Anniversary Jay B!!!
Here’s a two play for you and the lady. Everybody should be able to celebrate milestones like that……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcd3XuQwDQQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsn0RPoZJPc&feature=related
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
5:58 pm
Joe,
I’ve done my duties as soccer coach as well — so I’m right there with you and Jay and Kamchak as being a big fan of the ultimate Socialist/Marxist lovin’ sport evah.
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 25th, 2011
5:59 pm
I’ve known quite a few couples who made it to 60 years. And I know one couple, not sure how long they been married but she’s 88 and he’s 97.
@@
February 25th, 2011
5:59 pm
Bryan Adams is the master of love songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFD2gu007dc&feature=channel
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
6:01 pm
Wow SoCo — the Barry — are you feeling lucky tonight??
kayaker 71
February 25th, 2011
6:03 pm
Bosch,
I wish morals was the reason. But alas, it is not. It ain’t a partisan thing. As Richard Pryor once said, “I’m just gonna’ keep on trying ’till I get it right”.
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
6:04 pm
Happy Friday everyone.
Had a great experience at lunch today. Brad Paisley, Darius Rucker, and Jarod Niemann are in town for a concert tonight. My partner and I went down at lunch and worked on the bands and crews. They offered us some backstage passes for tonight, but I told them it’s FNM on the blog.
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
6:06 pm
Here’s a Brad Paisley tune dedicated to Jay and his wife:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlE2NoOyYZg
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
6:11 pm
kayaker,
Just messin’ with you — I have to get my hits in somehow.
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
6:11 pm
“Brad Paisley, Darius Rucker, and Jarod Niemann are in town for a concert tonight”
And I have absolutely no idea who those people are — I’m assuming they are musicians?
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
6:14 pm
Brad Paisley is the biggest selling country artist right now. Darius Rucker made his name as the lead singer of Hootie and the Blowfish, but recently switched to playing country music. Jarod is an up-n-coming country star.
And I thought I was out of the loop!!
md
February 25th, 2011
6:14 pm
“If that 45 would have been all with the same person, think of the money I could have saved.”
I think the jury is still out on that one…….I’m still trying to decide if it’s cheaper to keep them or keep them up…………
And my better half has kept me for more than 30………
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
6:15 pm
Just sayin’ but it I ever make it to POTUS, first of all — God help us all, but if so, then this will be a given for me to have a gay secretary:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/first-male-openly-gay-social-secretary/east-wing/?cid=cs:headline3
The Prez is gonna be having some FUN!!!
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
6:15 pm
To be fair, Bosch, a lot of die-hard country fans don’t like the direction country music is going. I’m sure Hillbilly Deluxe isn’t a Paisley fan.
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
6:16 pm
Bruno,
I suspected they might be “country” — I would rather pluck off my toes nails one by one with bamboo than listen to “country” music — yuck…
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
6:17 pm
Bruno,
Now, to be honest, I do love me some Johnny Cash and Willie/Waylon.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
6:18 pm
Time to stir it up !
Most of you libs. may hate his guts but he’s right ………………..
“Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said President Barack Obama’s decision not to fully enforce the Defense of Marriage law could spark a constitutional crisis — as he has directly violated his constitutional duties by arbitrarily suspending a law. He noted that, if a “President Sarah Palin” had taken a similar action, there would have been immediate calls for her impeachment.”
kayaker 71
February 25th, 2011
6:19 pm
Bosch,
I really admire someone like Bookman who can sustain a meaningful relationship for so long a time. It speaks well for him and his wife to work through all the problems and still come out on top. I often disagree with him on his political positions….. that’s just part of where we are. But his relationship with is daughter and obviously, his wife….. very admirable. We should all be so lucky.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
6:20 pm
Excuse me: I forgot to include this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhMepzqJvIw
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
6:21 pm
I worked with Shinedown in the past as well, Bosch. If you’re not familiar with them, I’m sure your kids are.
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
6:22 pm
kayaker,
True, true — for us — our longevity in marriage came from the fact that we couldn’t afford lawyers — so we just moved into a big house where we can get away from each other.
J/K — yeap that’s the ticket — talk it out, be honest, and never go to bed angry.
md
February 25th, 2011
6:22 pm
Rucker has come out of nowhere around here and is a big hit with the younger crowd…….trading in their rap for Rucker………
This seems to be one of the more popular:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11jV8bo2oc&feature=related
godless heathen
February 25th, 2011
6:22 pm
Jay: Congratulations to you and the Mrs. But you know we parse every statement here on JayBlog.
“and wife, with many more to come, I’m sure.”
Many more wives?????
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
6:22 pm
We should all be so lucky.
Could be just me, kayaker, but I prefer to trade them in after a while.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
6:23 pm
Kayaker 71:
Several years ago someone did a study (it had a lot of play on t.v. and radio) of about 1,000 couples who had been married for 50 years or longer to try to come up with a common denominator.
Basically, it turned out to be that at some point in the marriage the man said, “I give”.
There’s a lot of truth there.
md
February 25th, 2011
6:25 pm
As long as you aren’t having “hall sex” Bosch, you are ok………….
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
6:26 pm
Just read this — hysterical:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/marauding-gay-hordes-drag-thousands-of-helpless-ci,19325/
For those who were in the DOMA conversation earlier and for those who might wanna be.
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
6:27 pm
md,
Have I ever mentioned that I have a very long, long hallway?
md
February 25th, 2011
6:28 pm
And speaking of marriage and divorce……..this one by Rucker fits perfectly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DuMaf9G0Wo&feature=related
godless heathen
February 25th, 2011
6:28 pm
Appearing tonight at the Fox with Old Crow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exr-DOWJ3A0
A few years later we found ourselves up in Canada
trying to save our marriage, and perhaps catch a few fish.
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 25th, 2011
6:29 pm
Actually, I do like Brad Paisley. He’s a first rate picker and a good singer and although not everything he does is traditional, he can do that authentically and very well. He also shows a lot of respect for the musicians who came before him.
I don’t really like the direction that any music is taking these days. The music business used to be run by musicians who knew nothing about business. Now it’s run by businessmen who know nothing about music; it’s lost its soul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emTMoLaRGy8
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
6:30 pm
Nice Mick! Ready, Steady, Go! One of the early Brit music shows. By the time I got there it was already legendary…
And that super sweet Philly soul sound from Barry never, ever gets old, does it, Bro SoCo?
“Many more wives?????” I like the way heathen thinks! (grin)
Hiya Brother Bruno!
Since the milieu is sappy songs…(And yes, I loved it.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Fb8XbpWMM
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
6:30 pm
Have I ever mentioned that I have a very long, long hallway?
I don’t know, Bosch. josef has been bragging lately about his size 12 shoe. No telling what size SC’s shoe is……
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
6:31 pm
Bosch have you ever heard of hallway sex?
md
February 25th, 2011
6:32 pm
“Have I ever mentioned that I have a very long, long hallway?”
Are you aware of that phase of marriage??
Newlyweds do it all over the house………….as we age, we tend to restrict it to the bedroom……..and when we’ve been together too long, we have hall sex……that is where you pass each other in the hall and yell Scr*w you….no….Scr*w you………….
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
6:33 pm
“I Don’t Like Spiders and Snakes”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vudA72hibg
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
6:39 pm
Just for my lib. friends out there ………. good song !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzdvQOXxRD4&feature=related
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
6:40 pm
Oh well, in my most irreverent way, here’s a happy anniversary song from TR, JB…
You’d like to change it but there ain’t no way
Cause you’re a slave to your DNA
It’s so unfair but it’s the game we play
We’re only slaves to our DNA
Men are stupid, women are evil
Happy anniversary
And is that the way it has to be?
Happy anniversary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRpTX6OY6Vw
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
6:42 pm
Hillbilly
Granny and Granddaddy were married for 64 years…their advice for a long marriage? Always go to bed together even if the fight’s not over. When you wake up in the morning, before you remember, what you’ll be ’spooned up.’ That tells you what matters. Then you can start the fight all over with a good nights rest.”
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
6:45 pm
That was a darn good song, Scout. Thanks!
Back at ya…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lAENxSMH6o&feature=fvst
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
6:46 pm
And this one’s for me …………….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0AxCD84Rfs&feature=related
Now we all can run computers and we all can dance.
We all have Calvin Klein written on our underpants.
And at 6 o’clock like robots we turn on the news.
And watch those-world countries deal out more abuse.
Remember the first man on the moon.
Kids of the Baby Boom.
Kids of the Baby Boom,
We have freedom, we have money.
Baby Boom, here in the land of milk and honey.
Counting our chickens way too soon.
Kids of the Baby Boom.
As our lives become a capsule we send to the stars,
Our children look at us like we came from Mars.
As the farms disappear and the skies turns black,
We’re a nation full of takers, never giving back.
We never stop to think what we consume.
Kids of the Baby Boom.
Kids of the Baby Boom.
We have freedom, we have money.
Baby Boom, here in the land of milk and honey.
Counting our chickens way too soon.
Kids of the Baby Boom.
Our optimism mingles with the doom.
Kids of the Baby Boom.
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
6:48 pm
I do like Brad Paisley. He’s a first rate picker and a good singer and although not everything he does is traditional, he can do that authentically and very well.
Too bad I’m not going to the show tonight, else I would pass along the compliment. There’s no higher compliment than the HD Seal of Approval when it comes to music.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
6:50 pm
AmVet:
Glad you liked it ……….. I always like Charlie !
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
6:51 pm
Bosch
@ 6:26
TOO funny!
Bruno
@ 6:30
No brag, just facts…
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 25th, 2011
6:54 pm
They call it performing for a reason……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWO5LgUZ28&NR=1
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
6:55 pm
Here’s a nice duet featuring Brad Paisley and Dolly Parton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMLmlHfehQ
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 25th, 2011
6:56 pm
Scout
Have you ever heard the sequel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NziqyNiNdI
BADA BING
February 25th, 2011
6:58 pm
0311… you mentioned a place that is selling breast milk ice cream? Do they have it in melon? Does it ccome in cones or cups?
md
February 25th, 2011
6:58 pm
Here Bosch……..you more than likely know Rucker from here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln6WQqRDrCo&feature=channel
BADA BING
February 25th, 2011
7:00 pm
I bet that ice cream is DDelicious!
md
February 25th, 2011
7:01 pm
“Does it ccome in cones or cups?”
Has to be cups….right??
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
7:25 pm
BADA:
Yep, they sell it by the cup …………. A, B, C, D or DD size.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
7:26 pm
Hillbilly:
I have now ………. great !
USMC dawg
February 25th, 2011
7:28 pm
Congrats to you Jay for 32 years of marriage. That is an amazing accomplishment.
You are one lucky man. Cheers!
Del
February 25th, 2011
7:30 pm
Jay, Belated Happy Anniversary. Congratulations to you and your bride.
Bosch
February 25th, 2011
7:33 pm
md, AmVet,
Oh. Why no, I have never heard of that.
Lulu and Adele
February 25th, 2011
7:35 pm
Separated at birth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbLs80cuots
Mary Elizabeth
February 25th, 2011
7:39 pm
A picture says a thousand words. The look in your wife’s eyes at you, on your Facebook page,
shows why your song of choice this evening was perfectly chosen.
Congratulations to you both, and many more to come. You have both been blessed.
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
7:39 pm
Hiya Brother Bruno! Since the milieu is sappy songs…(And yes, I loved it.)
My ex-wife chose “I Can’t Fight This Feeling” as “our” song, Brother Am. Since our first date was to see “Dirty Dancing”, I always remember this one fondly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMoMBFhMdDw
I thought about looking up the ex about six months ago. A quick internet search revealed that she married a lawyer who is now a part-time judge. My better judgment told me to leave it alone……..
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
7:45 pm
Since we’re going for the sap tonight, I always liked this number by Olivia Newton John:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvfE-Cf9Qcc
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
7:53 pm
Am I the first one to play Billy Ocean here on the blog??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqAuKhWhy0w
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
7:57 pm
SInce no one else is here, might as well pull out all the stops and play some Lionel Richie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlKwOoQ4eE
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:00 pm
Sing it, Lionel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg-ivWxy5KE&feature=related
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
8:06 pm
That duet at 7:39 is truly sublime, B. I swear it’s true.
The next track…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhbGaCwBzs
md
February 25th, 2011
8:06 pm
Still playing the pennies Bruno??
I add a couple every few months, and haven’t had any go in the wrong direction…….Jaso is my week performer, and it is up 400%……………….what a neat game………..
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:09 pm
Only wish I was in for pennies, md. I’ve been stuck with CSCO for over 6 months now and am going nowhere. If I had only followed my own advice and sold it right before each of the last two earnings reports, I’d be doing fine.
Have you seen the recent rise by FSLR??
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 25th, 2011
8:11 pm
If I was gonna play Lionel, I’d go for this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UHfu4w7jS8
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
8:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3NrEk0f6tk
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:12 pm
Sorry, not a big Ronettes fan, Am.
From the kings of sap, a song that I still enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spQxK_aWpXk
Always brings back fond memories from the summer of ‘73 ^^^^^^
md
February 25th, 2011
8:16 pm
I did learn a valuable lesson………no more dividend reinvestment for me…….cost basis nightmare………
I try to stay with the pennies……..cheap to buy……. very little downside….and unlimited upside……
My kind of game……….
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:18 pm
Back at ya, Am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDfH_J4MAUQ
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
8:19 pm
Bruno
@ 7:39
Okay, if it’s sappy…let’s go full tilt on that one…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NqBWLeP9f4&feature=related
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
8:22 pm
Dear Lib. Friends:
O’Reilly had some interesting points at the start of his program tonight as follows:
1) He showed a video of Obama during the campaign PROMISING to walk the picket line as President for any workers having their collective bargaining tampered with.
He ain’t done that.
Why?
2) He supervises a federal work force of over 2 million people who have ZERO collective bargaining rights (nor should they in my opinion) and he has done NOTHING about it.
He can’t picket for state workers and then defend not pushing collective bargaining for all government workers.
You know …………. workers have RIGHTS !
Mr_B
February 25th, 2011
8:25 pm
Late to the party, but congrats Jay/ Miss Julie! Been 36 for me and Mrs_B.
G’evenin all.
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:25 pm
Scout–Seriously, can’t you leave the politics alone for one night a week?? Firday nights are for relaxing.
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:29 pm
josef–I probably should like TWWW better than I do. This is my go-to Barbra Streisand song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npAPh3wgZ8c
gf
February 25th, 2011
8:30 pm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703530504576164822561737348.html
Mr_B
February 25th, 2011
8:31 pm
Scout(?): Aside from the fact that if Obama had said that he would prefer that it not rain, the cons would claim THAT HE PROMISED sunshine; what else could he do? A couple of days ago he did issue a ststement in support of the unions in WI. MAybe he should send in Federal troops to arrest Walker and break up the state assembly?
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
8:32 pm
Mr B
Shalom! And good to see somebody else here who’s been with the one and only for a lifetime…
@@
February 25th, 2011
8:36 pm
Firday nights are for relaxing.
Fir-day nights or Fur-day nights?
Something Freudian in there, no doubt.
My husband’s having a Fur-day night at the poker table.
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
8:37 pm
Thanks for more BB, B. They are still relevant.
No more sap! (J/k)
Something a little more upbeat…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfpF-h-iWVk
Mr_B
February 25th, 2011
8:37 pm
Jonix: Back atcha!! I guess I missed Newt’s lecture…..
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
8:41 pm
BRUNO
My “go-to” Streisand….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_g3kkGH8Mo
Mr_B
February 25th, 2011
8:42 pm
How come I can’t find a link to Woddy Guthries’ “Talkin’ Union?”
Mr_B
February 25th, 2011
8:43 pm
Damn cheap bourbon!!! WOODY!
TnGelding
February 25th, 2011
8:44 pm
A belated Happy Anniversary!
Speaking of Barbara:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf53oFb4IKA
…and another natural.
Mr_B
February 25th, 2011
8:49 pm
And since LilBarry doesn’t seem to be here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghd5weu5Mpg
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:51 pm
The Bee Gees tribute to Andy Gibb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7zcl-UcEzc
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:51 pm
Since we’re going soft tonight, we better balance it out with some hard rock next week, fellas.
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:53 pm
Some serious Gibb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg0vi8bOIpg
Their best song and best album by far ^^^^^^^
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
8:56 pm
Although this one has to be a serious contender:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBMriOspUvA
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
8:59 pm
IT’S FRIDAY…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moOamKxW844
Bruno
February 25th, 2011
9:01 pm
Last sappy song for me tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQhZIMeEsFg
Hard rock next week, fellas!!
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
9:10 pm
Mr._B.
If you want serious debate fine but that was too flippant.
Obama made a promise (among many)
He found out later he wrote a check his a** couldn’t cash.
He wants state workers to have collective bargaining but not federal workers.
Now ……… what’s with that ?
josef nix
February 25th, 2011
9:13 pm
well…gotta check out early this p.m. catch up later…
Mr_B
February 25th, 2011
9:14 pm
josef: Thanks for Minelli. GREAT.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
9:20 pm
Bruno:
The issues and the country are too important.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
9:22 pm
P.S.
……………. for nothing but musical frivolity.
Mr_B
February 25th, 2011
9:23 pm
Scout: The music’s a lot more fun but I’ll bite……
My 9th grade English students (well, at least most of ‘em) an tell the difference between literal and metaphorical speech.
Obama was elected president, not dictator. It wouldn’t matter if he does support collective bargaining rights for federal workers ( and he probably does;) it’s not his call. If Congress wants to take it up, I say “Go for it”, but I’m not holding my breath.
Mr_B
February 25th, 2011
9:28 pm
Bruno: I’m with you. I’ll bet even Churchill took time off for a brandy and a cigar now and then.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
9:29 pm
Man has he boxed himself into a corner. The statement by White House senior adviser Valerie Jarrett is halarious !
“President Obama’s Promised March With Union Workers Fails to Materialize”
By Eve Zibel
Published February 25, 2011
“When candidate Obama was campaigning in South Carolina in 2007, he said he was proud to wear the “union label” and that if workers were denied rights to organize or collectively bargain when he was elected, “I’ll put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself, I’ll will walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States of America.”
But as the protests over collective bargaining rights drag out in Wisconsin, President Obama has yet to join the demonstrators outside the Capitol building in Madison, and it appears his administration is trying not to get involved in the fight.
White House senior adviser Valerie Jarrett says what’s happening in Wisconsin is not a national fight. “Let’s not turn what’s really a Wisconsin issue into a Washington issue,” Jarrett told Fox News in an interview Tuesday.”
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
9:30 pm
Mr. _B:
Was it Congress’ job to come up with Obamacare?
No …….. the President pushed it as his agenda !
But he ain’t pushing collective bargaining for federal employees ……….. tsk, tsk
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
9:33 pm
P.S.
“putting on a soft pair of shoes” ( in lieu of “I’ll be with you in spirit” ) is NOT metaphorical.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
9:34 pm
You want some music ? Sure ………………….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiGg8D4hFLc
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 25th, 2011
9:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=322iA3nSMqs
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
9:39 pm
Want to see another thing that liberalism has done to this country?
“Oregon Inmates Win Claims for Lost Sunglasses, Pictures — Even Porn”
”
Taxpayers in Oregon may be surprised to know they dish out an average of $60,000 a year to compensate inmates who claim prison officials damaged or lost things like their sunglasses, their TV – even their porn.
This year inmate Todd Ritchey was awarded $260 for a television he said was damaged during a search of his cell, Nathan Bennett got $125 for 250 pages of pornography he said were improperly confiscated from his cell and the state was ordered to pay Curtis W. Bevan $1,000 after he said six photo albums disappeared during his prison transfer.”
Prisoners should not have t.v. (certainly a private one) and they can read the classics.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/25/oregon-inmates-win-claims-lost-sunglasses-pictures-porn/?test=latestnews
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 25th, 2011
9:44 pm
My political statement for tonight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLMkk9aVpY0
timeforsomebudgetcuts
February 25th, 2011
9:52 pm
Right to work States are the place to be. Unions are dinosaurs. Government agencies ensure safe work places and fair regulations regarding getting paid time and a half etc. All of those folks talking about the government should control this and that, yet get upset in this instance. Double talk.
Music choice tonight sucks. Way to blow it Jay.
AmVet
February 25th, 2011
9:54 pm
I know for a fact that that one is a fave round these parts, and HD, you jut beat me to it!
And for those who can take a hint, you are the man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVJ-CnWhsRM
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
9:59 pm
timeforsomebudgetcuts :
Amen !
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 25th, 2011
10:06 pm
“Alleged Texas Jihad Plot Underscores Threat of Lone Wolf Terrorists Inside U.S.”
“The next wave of Al Qaeda recruits are born or educated right in the United States. Most are just old enough to remember 9/11, yet a decade a later they are turning their back on the United States.
The threat posed by this new generation of terrorists was underscored this week by the case of Khalid Aldawsari, a 20-year-old Saudi national who came to the United States legally in 2008 to attend college in Texas. Now he is accused of plotting to bomb a series of U.S. targets, including the Dallas home of former President George W. Bush.”
THEY LIVE AMONG US.
Adam
February 26th, 2011
12:26 am
“You’re too late, we’re EVERYWHERE!” – Shapeshifters in Deep Space 9
No wonder the show was so popular among conservatives when they kept doing the war thing…
TnGelding
February 26th, 2011
5:27 am
…and could strike at any time. But they’re planning something extra special for us. Keeping them on the defensive is a good strategy.
Dave R.
February 26th, 2011
7:20 am
CBO figures on the cost and effect of the stimulus plan shows that each job created or saved cost a MINIMUM of $225k or a maximum of $550k. EACH JOB! And most were for just a one-time good deal.
Wanna bet Bookman and Tucker don’t write word one about the glories of CBO numbers next week?
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
7:52 am
CBO figures on the cost and effect of the stimulus plan shows that each job created or saved cost a MINIMUM of $225k or a maximum of $550k. EACH JOB! And most were for just a one-time good deal.
I’m not sure where you got that, but I imagine you know that a lot of projects funded by the Recovery Act involved spending a lot more than just salaries. Which is to say your numbers are a yawn.
so i’m not sure what your poutrage is all about. I guess the numbers sound like Teh Skary.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
7:54 am
Seriously, Dave, how would you and your fellow conservatives feel if the Recovery Act simply hand-picked individuals and said “you now have a JOB!” without having them, you know, pour concrete or asphalt or purchase / operate any equipment or actually DO ANYTHING.
would that make you happier? Because you’d have awesome spending/job numbers that way.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
7:58 am
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703373404576148093083655916.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
biggest problem, of course, with the Recovery Act was that it was too limited in size and scope.
But that’s what happens when you don’t put me, Paul Krugman and Duncan Black in charge of domestic spending. Fools!
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
8:04 am
har. Coming soon to a Cheeto-smudged monitor near you.
(and here’s Wolcott’s high-larious take on it.)
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2011/02/right-makes-blight.html
Jay
February 26th, 2011
8:14 am
Dave R., what’s your source for those CBO numbers?
Normal
February 26th, 2011
8:18 am
Good morning all y’all…I’m sorry I missed this one but as good as it seeded to be, spending time with the grand kids in more important.
First off, Jay! Congratulations, one for every year! When you’ve known one woman for that long, she becomes as much you as you. I remember my wife left for a week to go visit the kids in Texas…I was so lost, I was making excuses to call…”Honey, where’s the dish soap?”,
but I just wanted to hear her voice…
Now, too the topic….I think this is a mighty fine voice too and listen to the passion in her song…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMr9q1IucM
Dudley (United we stand, Divided we beg)
February 26th, 2011
8:32 am
Am I the only one tired of the Charlie sheen situation.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
8:41 am
what’s your source for those CBO numbers?
if you google recovery act CBO per job you’ll get this–
http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&cf=all&ncl=dXKX5oN22mCjgGM0Uaw159VhXt7PM
naturally, Faux News and American Stinker are screaming about the per-job cost, without providing any context whatsoever, as is their habit.
Less partisan resources tell a different tale of course, e.g.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/23/us-usa-economy-stimulus-idUSTRE71M7GF20110223
DeBunking De Bull Bunk
February 26th, 2011
8:44 am
CBO figures on the cost and effect of the stimulus plan shows that each job created or saved cost a MINIMUM of $225k or a maximum of $550k. EACH JOB! And most were for just a one-time good deal.
If that were true, then that is proof (on the same order as Inhofe’s construction of an igloo proves that global warming is not real) that government employees in every single state that utilized stimulus money are extremely overpaid. Therefore, the only logical course of remedial action is to fire every government worker in every state that accepted stimulus money and hire cheap illegal immigrants, that are known to work for a fraction of that while generating significantly more output, to replace each and every one of them.
Alternatively, one could just go to the cbo website and read the truth. Why wait for Jay to present it.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
8:53 am
If that were true, then that is proof (on the same order as Inhofe’s construction of an igloo proves that global warming is not real) that government employees in every single state that utilized stimulus money are extremely overpaid.
Welp, the goons have their weekend talking point and they’re a-gonnna push it.
Alternatively, one could just go to the cbo website and read the truth.
Funny that you spend all this time yabbering and don’t provide a link yourself then.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
8:56 am
argh. I obviously didn’t get “Debunking’s” snarkage the first time through. My bad.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
9:05 am
In “About Flippin’ Time” news…
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/02/26/sports/AP-OLY-IOC-Womens-Ski-Jumping.html?hp
Women’s ski jumping is edging closer to the Olympics.
The International Olympic Committee refused to admit the women to the 2010 Vancouver Games but IOC member Gunilla Lindberg praised the quality of jumping at the Nordic world skiing championships.
Daniela Iraschko of Austria won gold on Friday.
“I am impressed with what I have seen,” Lindberg said. “The level among female ski jumpers is high, and the progress made during the last two years has been enormous.”
The IOC will decide on the sport’s Olympic future in April after reviewing Friday’s event.
Lindberg said it was satisfying to see 43 nations represented in a final that took place in thick fog and strong wind at the Holmenkollen venue.
Here’s hoping the IOC do the right thing in April.
DeBunking De Bull Bunk
February 26th, 2011
9:13 am
Since sfd apparently cannot locate the cbo website, here it is. Some people are so helpless.
@@
February 26th, 2011
9:17 am
I just noticed the name of jay’s muse-i-cal pick.
Make You Feel My Love!!??!!
Uhmmmm…
No comment!
DeBunking De Bull Bunk
February 26th, 2011
9:18 am
BY the BY, that 9:13 was just more “snarkage”. Nothing mean meant by it.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
9:21 am
Our elected Goopers are such vile people, words really fail me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/26/opinion/26sat1.html?hp
And the supine Democrats who try to go-along-to-get-along with these misogynist thugs are little better.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Republicans in the House of Representatives are mounting an assault on women’s health and freedom that would deny millions of women access to affordable contraception and life-saving cancer screenings and cut nutritional support for millions of newborn babies in struggling families. And this is just the beginning.
The budget bill pushed through the House last Saturday included the defunding of Planned Parenthood and myriad other cuts detrimental to women. It’s not likely to pass unchanged, but the urge to compromise may take a toll on these programs. And once the current skirmishing is over, House Republicans are likely to use any legislative vehicle at hand to continue the attack.
[...]
In negotiations over the health care bill last year, Democrats agreed to a scheme intended to stop insurance companies from offering plans that cover abortions. Two bills in the Republican House would go even further in denying coverage to the 30 percent or so of women who have an abortion during child-bearing years.
One of the bills, offered by Representative Joe Pitts of Pennsylvania, has a provision that would allow hospitals receiving federal funds to refuse to terminate a pregnancy even when necessary to save a woman’s life.
Beyond the familiar terrain of abortion or even contraception, House Republicans would inflict harm on low-income women trying to have children or who are already mothers.
Their continuing resolution would cut by 10 percent the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children, better known as WIC, which serves 9.6 million low-income women, new mothers, and infants each month, and has been linked in studies to higher birth weight and lower infant mortality.
The G.O.P. bill also slices $50 million from the block grant supporting programs providing prenatal health care to 2.5 million low-income women and health care to 31 million children annually. President Obama’s budget plan for next year calls for a much more modest cut.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
9:23 am
No worries, Debunker. I had it coming!
Jay
February 26th, 2011
9:25 am
Yes, sfd, I’ve found those too. I’m looking for the source of that “$228,055 per job” figure. I’ve read the CBO report. It’s not in there. (http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12074 )
That CBO report states that stimulus programs had the following effects in the fourth quarter of 2010:
– They raised real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product (GDP) by between 1.1 percent and 3.5 percent,
– Lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.9 percentage points,
– Increased the number of people employed by between 1.3 million and 3.5 million, and
– Increased the number of full-time-equivalent jobs by 1.8 million to 5.0 million compared with what would have occurred otherwise, as shown in Table 1. (Increases in FTE jobs include shifts from part-time to full-time work or overtime and are thus generally larger than increases in the number of employed workers).
But I don’t know how they can take those numbers and generate this apparently farcical cost-per-job figure. If you divide the $821 billion cost by the 3.5 million more people employed in the fourth quarter, for example, you get $234,571 per job, which is at least in the neighborhood of the reported figure. If you divide the $821 billion cost by the 5 million FTEs, you get $164,000 per job.
However, both are statistically fraudulent and essentially meaningless way to do it. It requires you to pretend that all $821 billion was spent in the fourth quarter of last year to produce those 3.5 million jobs or 5 million FTEs, when in reality only a small fraction of it was spent in that time frame. (The stimulus money started to flow in 2009 and peters out in 2012).
According to the CBO, the stimulus produced a high-end annual average of 1.3 million FTEs in 2009, 4.8 million in 2010, another 3.7 million this year and then just 0.7 million in 2012, as it winds down. So I don’t know a statistically valid way of adding up all the jobs created by the stimulus over several years, then divided by the total amount spent over several years, to produce a valid cost-per-job figure.
Maybe the CBO doesn’t know either, because contrary to the impression some have left, I see no evidence that CBO has tried to produce such a statistic.
I suppose you could add up the annual FTEs saved/created over each of the four years of the program, then divide it by the total amount spent on the stimulus. Adding the CBO FTE estimates from 2009-2012 produces 10.5 million “job years,” divided into the $821 billion cost, which brings you to an ANNUAL cost of $78,190 per job.
But I’m certainly not trying to sell THAT as the right figure either, because again, I’m not sure a right figure can be had.
But if Dave R. has a source that explains it to us, I’d love to see it.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
9:29 am
As is her habit, Amanda says what the New York Times editorial staff are too genteel to say (and does it nearly a week earlier….
http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/no_seriously_they_want_this_to_be_the_republic_of_gilead/
I think we need to be very clear about what we’re up against here. These are the people that House Republicans are pandering to, and they’ve laid out exactly the world they want, and it’s one where women who have sex give up any right to decent health care, be it STD prevention, contraception, safe maintenance of miscarriages or abortion as needed. (Lesbianism is no dodge, either, because they sure as [heck] don’t want lesbians to have rights.) The world they want is a bleak one indeed, especially for women, but also for the children who depend on women and the majority of men who don’t hate women.
No Room for the Sick
February 26th, 2011
9:29 am
The things that pass for “Christian” these days.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
9:31 am
But I don’t know how they generate this apparently farcical cost-per-job figure. If you divide the $821 billion cost by the 3.5 million more people employed in the fourth quarter, you get $234,571 per job, which is at least in the neighborhood of the reported figure.
Hmm. Well, I guess you have to add to that 234K the value of whatever wholesome goodness is found between the Excrement in Broadcasting’s buttocks, whence these talking points presumably originate.
that’s why they call it a “fudge factor.”
Jay
February 26th, 2011
9:33 am
and sfd, I see where Marcotte cites state Rep. Bobby Franklin’s abortion bill here in Georgia as a primary piece of evidence in her essay. I really don’t think that’s fair.
Franklin is considered the fringe of the fringe, even among his fellow Republicans in the Legislature. He is almost always the sole sponsor of his nutty suggestions, and nobody takes them seriously. I think it’s very unfair to cite his bills as evidence applicable to the GOP as a whole, because it is really just applicable to Bobby Franklin.
FOXy Blues Network
February 26th, 2011
9:35 am
Jay, if you take the projected total cost of the stimulus, $821 billion, and multiply that by 0.7 (the report states that 70 percent had been spent by the end of 2010) and divide that by the total FTE jobs through the end of 2010 (taken from the end of one of the tables) you can come up with some good sounding but bogus job cost estimates that are in the ball park of those given by Dave R. However, I also could not find the numbers that he presented.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
9:38 am
I think it’s very unfair to cite his bills as evidence applicable to the GOP as a whole,
Fine. Let’s hear some prominent Goopers denounce them, then.
Jay
February 26th, 2011
9:40 am
I can’t make those numbers perform the necessary magic either, Foxy.
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
9:47 am
Well it’s a gorgeous day, and outdoor recreational stuff with the fambly awaits. Later, all.
Jay
February 26th, 2011
9:48 am
They don’t denounce them, sfd. But they do ignore them. Franklin’s bills — such as requiring state debts to be paid only in gold or silver — are too wacky to even deserve denuniciation.
FOXy Blues Network
February 26th, 2011
9:55 am
It does indeed look like a great day in the making for outdoor activity but it’s still in the forties here so I think I’ll stay indoors for a few hours more… sip coffee, scan Inferiornet (bottom of the line mountain DSL service but better than dial up)…
Mick
February 26th, 2011
9:57 am
All aboard dave r and others who just want to bend the facts to fit their narrative (fox).
Have a great saturday all!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRbPWcLode0
Jay
February 26th, 2011
10:10 am
To be fair to Dave R., I now see that number being reported. He didn’t make it up. But I’d still like to see how it’s being derived, and by whom.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
10:16 am
Jay @ 10:10 :
You usually a little to quick on the tigger Jay.
Mick
February 26th, 2011
10:17 am
If I remember correctly, wasn’t almost half of the stimulus tax cuts of some nature?
Jay
February 26th, 2011
10:19 am
Is that you, Scout, or Elmer Fudd?
Jay
February 26th, 2011
10:20 am
and yes, Mick, somewhere around 40 percent was tax cuts…
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
10:23 am
“Is that you, Scout, or Elmer Fudd?”
Just brilliant coming from a “professionl” journalist.
Mick
February 26th, 2011
10:26 am
It’s the weekend, sometimes its good to take a break from the political and browse some non sense news. Charlie sheen is an interesting character and sure has a pair, this kinda stuff is like junk food for the brain-
http://tv.yahoo.com/two-and-a-half-men/show/35441/news/tv.tvguide.com/tv.tvguide.com-charlie-sheen-ill-go-back-men-without-chuck-lorre?nc
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
10:26 am
Washington Post:
” ………… one group who took this seriously is the Secret Service. According to Ed Donovan, a Secret Service spokesman, the situation has been looked into.
“We’re aware of the incident and the appropriate steps were taken,” Donovan told me. “At this point it’s a closed matter.”
A law enforcement source confirmed that the Secret Service interviewed the constituent and determined that he or she was an “elderly person” who now regrets making a bad joke.
“In this case this was poor taste,” the source says. “The person realized that.”
Just as I stated yesterday when everyone was all worked up. That was not a criminal offense ………….. but “poor taste” ………… .
Mick
February 26th, 2011
10:27 am
Scout – you a good soul, “lighten up”….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj5k6toS7i8
Jay
February 26th, 2011
10:34 am
reread your post out loud, scout, complete with typos, and you may get the joke.
AmVet
February 26th, 2011
10:34 am
Good morning, all.
03, as you have no respect for anybody here, what do you expect?
There is an unwritten code that Friday nights are the ONE time you don’t trot out your xenophobic drivel and cherry picked nonsense.
Almost to a man and woman, everybody adheres to the code. But not you. No.
I guess you think you’re special, right?
You’re not special, you’re just an intransigent and ill-mannered heel…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjYSrbLTifk
the easter bunny
February 26th, 2011
10:42 am
I was thinking of getting married, but the thought passed and now I am thinking what a delightful experience it is to get up in the morning and plan the whole day to suit myself. Sure, I know, the evenings are a little boring and the only heat at night comes from an electric blanket. the blanket is low maintenance runs for pennies a day.
Sunday mornin comin down, that is a day for families, I just sit and watch and go my way.
Paulo977
February 26th, 2011
10:42 am
JAY …Happy Anniversary…and into the sunset years…home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD1WJ7U0Xlc&feature=related
Mick
February 26th, 2011
10:47 am
amvet
As always great selections…keep on..off to find some adventure-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJS8j9YYB9w
TaxPayer
February 26th, 2011
11:04 am
You usually a little to quick on the tigger Jay.
I was leaning toward calling him Eeyore myself.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
11:07 am
Mornin’ or Afternoon, er’rbody…..
DIdn’t hang around to see what all was posted, but I know there were some choice cuts laid down. I can see the politics got to flying early this am. Personally, I don’t know what the stimulus saved or didn’t save. I have a gut feeling that we would be a lot better off had both TARP and the stimulus funds been put to where they could be most effective.
TARP could have been done as a credit to a bank from a taxpayer to be used exclusively for their mortgage. Let the homeowner apply the payment to their tax returns as income earned and split it over a course of years as to keep the taxpayer from being hammered by a huge tax bill at once. The outcome would have been that the banks would have still gotten the money, however the mortgages would no longer be toxic.
The stimulus should have been larger to have any kind of effect. You’re talking less than 1 trillion spending with a GDP the size of ours. That’s not enough to affect GDP or the economy at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65jkFKR-udY
Normal
February 26th, 2011
11:16 am
Age of innocence, AmVet?
Whenever I think of the innocent age I think of this song…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_S-YaRLa8
Normal
February 26th, 2011
11:22 am
BTW,
I hear that the GOP is lining up to blame Prsident Obama fore the unrest in the Middle East. They say he will use it as an excuse if the economy tanks again…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8rCy173y7Y&feature=related
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
11:23 am
LOL!!!! @ Normal
Normal
February 26th, 2011
11:25 am
Hey SoCo,
Have the day off, I hope…
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
11:29 am
Normal
This is my weekend off. I get one of those every now and then.
Speaking of your GOP strategy… If they try that, they may end up listening to Obama singing this song around midnight on Mov 5, 2012……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CWJFmspYog
@@
February 26th, 2011
11:33 am
There is an unwritten code that Friday nights are the ONE time you don’t trot out your xenophobic drivel and cherry picked nonsense.
Unwritten? By whom? Where can I read “this code” of which you speak?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqqMmSCSKUQ&feature=related
Think, Lady Godiva and taxation.
You, AmVet, can continue to ride your azz OR donkey, as the case may be.
Unlike you, no demands will be forthcoming.
Giddyup, dude!
Normal
February 26th, 2011
11:34 am
SoCo,
or maybe He’ll be singin’ this one…heh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU
larry
February 26th, 2011
11:34 am
Since the GOP is the reverse backwards party , i am going to start referring to them as POG.
The POG party. The name suits them.
/drive by
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
11:38 am
NORMAL!!!!
I didn’t even think about that one…….
Normal
February 26th, 2011
11:40 am
@@,
Friday nights has always been a truce from all the “Rhetoric” of the previous week. Music is the balm that soothes any “sores” from angry words. I think it’s very civil and allows us to…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8LZGQ4MkvQ
Figuratively speaking, of course…
Paulo977
February 26th, 2011
11:43 am
The refreshing voice of Jason Castro as he dwells on the glories of traveling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lCKMFZegU&playnext=1&list=PLD4650F15C692AE57
Normal
February 26th, 2011
11:45 am
SoCo,
My taste in music is myriad.
AmVet
February 26th, 2011
11:46 am
I should have posted the part of my post I left out.
Cue up my lurking humper.
I’m surprised she’s not busy running more cover for George “blackies with their hands out” W, aka HNIC.
Cons are funny as hell, and this one is positively Pavlovian. (Drool, drool, schnort)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnb3KdhkSAI
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
11:52 am
Normal
I see… I see… I’m also very impressed.
@@
February 26th, 2011
11:54 am
Normal:
And when AmVet interjects music throughout the rest of the week?
It’s like RW said…AmVet invited the intrusion thru his own behavior. Now he wants to complain about others intruding on HIS time?
It’s no BIGGIE and neither is AmVet, much to his dismay.
If it’s music you’re looking for, skip over the comments that don’t pertain. It’s really quite simple with self-discipline.
AmVet doesn’t seem to have much of that.
Enjoy your weekend.
I have a stoopid bridal shower to attend.
Normal
February 26th, 2011
11:56 am
Just ran across this…have a chuckle on me…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=munbt8qpCiQ&feature=fvw
AmVet
February 26th, 2011
11:57 am
Normal, that is one of the many surprises about FNM. One never really knows what any given blogger is gonna contribute musically.
And of course, no mater who you are, you’re bound to hear a lot of stuff you’ve never heard before.
For those of us who “get” it, it is pretty sweet.
And for the sycophantic cad who doesn’t…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UI9MlSjiRA
Normal
February 26th, 2011
11:57 am
@@,
I have a stoopid bridal shower to attend.
Now THAT I can empathize with…wow!
Normal
February 26th, 2011
12:01 pm
Grandpa Normal says…com’on, y’all. It’s time to get on the…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7wEctHyuc0
getalife
February 26th, 2011
12:02 pm
Joe s said we are watching beck lose it right before our eyes.
I agree and we can add Scout to this fact.
And now for some music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JkPag5ahtQ
md
February 26th, 2011
12:21 pm
Another day of slaughter in Libya while the “civilized” west watches from their reality tv chairs……
Pretty pathetic beacon of freedom we are……………..
DebbieDoRight
February 26th, 2011
12:28 pm
Southern Comfort you’re on today I see. I just HAVE to comment about the Auburn tree thing. When I read that a crazed, half baked, Alabama fan had done it, I was like OMG!!! SoCo has finally gone off the deep end!! It’s all Auburn’s fault for beating them in the Iron Bowl!!
PS: Glad to see that it wasn’t you!! (this time)
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
12:31 pm
AmVet:
Thank you for your “kind” words. It was very thoughtful of you.
P.S.
You don’t “have” to read my posts on Friday night or any other day. They are quite easy to scroll over so I think your complaint is merely a swipe at me as opposed to any inconvenience.
As always, I prefer polite debate over personal attacks. However, like a good Marine, if attacked I will respond ……… professionally without name calling.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
12:34 pm
Just got back from the dog park and noticed this ………………………..
Boston ……… BOSTON ! …………… not Montgomery.
BOSTON (AP) – “The owners of a Boston nightclub issued a public apology and agreed Friday to pay a $30,000 fine to settle allegations that it abruptly shut down an event after the annual Harvard-Yale football game because most of the attendees were black.
Some students said they were turned away from the November event after employees at the Cure Lounge complained that a large group of young black people in line would attract “local gangbangers.”
Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley called the club staff’s behavior “the essence of racial stereotyping” and said it violated public accommodations and consumer protection laws.
“Massachusetts businesses cannot refuse to host events because of racial reasons,” Coakley said. “In this case, club staff made harmful and ill-conceived conclusions based on the simple fact that most of the guests were black.”
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
12:40 pm
Welcome once again to the “real world” Mr. President.
Headline (AP): “Obama signs temporary extension of Patriot Act”
“…RAILED AGAINST DURING CAMPAIGN”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/25/AR2011022505562.html
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
12:43 pm
DDR
LOL!!!! I wouldn’t take anything out on the trees. They had no part in what happened on the field. I’m just waiting on somebody to get fustrated and spill the beans. That Heisman that Cam took home is the same one that Reggie Bush had. It comes with it’s own pre-addressed, postage pre-paid, return to sender box. When he’s told to send it back, those wins will be erased.
AmVet
February 26th, 2011
12:49 pm
Hillbilly, it’s here!
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2011/02/25/heyward-mccann-in-lineup-for-saturday-opener/
03, I do scroll past them and have never said a word to you in real time regarding your pathetic behavior on Friday nights. But plenty of others have, haven’t they? How many do you suppose it is by now? You simply don’t care about them or anybody but yourself and what you want.
Which is to p*ss on the parade.
Bully for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNa5xzOe5U
getalife
February 26th, 2011
12:50 pm
Hushh, shhhhh.
We are hunting wabbits
getalife
February 26th, 2011
12:52 pm
Auburn needs to find another pro quarterback.
At LSU, we play college football.
Geaux Tigers!
DebbieDoRight
February 26th, 2011
1:19 pm
SoCo had to show Dudley your comments, he just laughed and said to show you this and this.
Right now he’s singing the Auburn fight song (again). If I have to listen to that dang song ONE MORE TIME……….
Please pray for me, as your family will tell you, it’s not easy living with a crazed, half-baked, lunatic fan!
Mick
February 26th, 2011
1:39 pm
md
Let’s face it, I don’t want to be the world police anymore. What do we get with our interference? We had a civil war, it wasn’t very pretty. Each country will be better off with their own manifest destiny. Our greatest general, “A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification.” Damn straight!!!! Wise words from a constitutional man himself….
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
1:47 pm
DDR
LOL!!!! Tell him to make sure he has those on DVD. He’s not likely to see that happen again for a while. My wife could probably empathize with you somewhat. However, we’re both die-hard Bama St. Hornets (me c/o ‘96; she c/o ‘00), so we get a little wild with football here ourselves. Not to mention, she’s a complete Redskins fan. Our garage is a small memorial to the Washington Redskins, complete with the Indian head logo.
Adam
February 26th, 2011
1:47 pm
md: You’re right. Let’s go fix it. It’s not like we need to budget for that or anything.
Adam
February 26th, 2011
1:48 pm
Libya is in trouble. We can go ahead and allocate money to go in there and fix the problem. Should only take a few days and maybe we’ll find some WMDs. And we can pay for it all with another tax cut. Sound good?
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
1:51 pm
Washington (CNN) — Defense Secretary Robert Gates, in what he said is his final address to the cadets at the U.S. Military Academy, warned Friday against the United States getting involved in another major land battle.
He told the cadets that wars like Afghanistan are not likely, and in fact he would advise against it.
“In my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should ‘have his head examined,’ as Gen. MacArthur so delicately put it,” Gates said.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
2:15 pm
Jay @ 10:34
Maybe if I had said, “You usually a wittle” ………….. but I’ll take your word for it.
I’m just a little gunshy of unnecessary “shots” on here.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
2:17 pm
Cynthia has a good thread going today (she’s usually not out on the weekends) if you want to join in.
Mick
February 26th, 2011
2:30 pm
Eighty nine degrees today in miami, global warming? Gas is $3.49 but I felt real lucky when I found a station for the low, low price of $3.35. The supply is not in serious jeopardy, the greed merchants can yank us like a yo-yo, they were hiding out during their catastrophic oil spill but instability is the green light. Obama, bush, all presidents are paper tigers when it comes to these vipers…”But Satan now is wiser than of yore, and tempts by making rich, not making poor.”
DebbieDoRight
February 26th, 2011
3:02 pm
SoCo: DDR, LOL!!!! Tell him to make sure he has those on DVD. He’s not likely to see that happen again for a while
HA! He has it on DVD, player cards, board game, flash drive, a dedicated website to Iron Bowl 2010; and one of those digital picture frames. He even has a T-SHIRT of Iron Bowl 2010 with the score on it and a picture of the game winning touchdown by Lutzenkirchen.
My wife could probably empathize with you somewhat.
Hey i LOVE sports!! I’m really into it! I like to watch sports and also play sports, (tennis, soccer and basketball). I play on a women’s league (basketball and soccer) for team sports and once a week my sister-n-law and I get together for a game of tennis. But MY GOD MAN, what is this inhuman OBSESSION with football? What makes grown men, who are normally nice sane guys, go completely out of their minds in the fall? What makes a grown azz man fly a thousand miles to see a FOOTBALL GAME? (without first seeing his wife I might add). What is it about the South and Football? My husband wants to put a big azz Auburn Flag on our bedroom wall! For what?!? To give him incentive? Well, I guess it’s better than a picture of Cam on our wall, but still……!!!
DebbieDoRight
February 26th, 2011
3:05 pm
Mick: The supply is not in serious jeopardy, the greed merchants can yank us like a yo-yo, they were hiding out during their catastrophic oil spill but instability is the green light.
My sister-in-law and I were just talking about that yesterday!! The instability in Libya and Egypt shouldn’t have had such an immediate effect on oil prices. We shouldn’t really be seeing the ripple effects for at least 3 more months, however, it seems what happens in the oil world on Tuesday can be immediately justified as an oil price hike on Wednesday. Priceless!
Fudd
February 26th, 2011
3:20 pm
We are hunting wabbits
Weedicuwous. I only hunt skwewey wabbits.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
3:22 pm
DDR
In the South, football is close to being a religion. The only reason it’s not is because someone would get hurt if you tried to place a pulpit on the 50 yard line.
We shouldn’t really be seeing the ripple effects for at least 3 more months, however, it seems what happens in the oil world on Tuesday can be immediately justified as an oil price hike on Wednesday.
And as long as we continue to let them play that game, we’ll get the same results. That’s one of the reasons I think the US should be seriously researching alternative fuels.
DebbieDoRight
February 26th, 2011
3:32 pm
B. Cosby – when you make out your check to your college, please tell them to add “google” to one of their reference resources. Perhaps then future generations from Bugtussle University won’t make the same mistake you just did and misspell Spelman while trying to admonish me.
Thanks!
DebbieDoRight
February 26th, 2011
3:33 pm
oops wrong site!! Sorry!
DebbieDoRight
February 26th, 2011
3:46 pm
SoCo: And as long as we continue to let them play that game, we’ll get the same results. That’s one of the reasons I think the US should be seriously researching alternative fuels.
HA! The repugs would rather DIE than actually find a viable resource for oil!! Heck, without oil, what would we really need such a huge military for?
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
4:10 pm
Jay, et al:
Some great music !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc4hyi4ufG4
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2011
5:22 pm
Heck, without oil, what would we really need such a huge military for?
Hereby nominated for Comment of the Century. Any seconds?
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
5:26 pm
Heck, without oil, what would we really need such a huge military for?
Fighting the space aliens that are coming on 3/11/11….. To Los Angeles
Adam
February 26th, 2011
5:26 pm
dB: I’ll second the nomination. Let me know when the time to vote on the nominations happens.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
5:46 pm
Just When You Think You Have Seen It All
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiFqt6J0zZs&feature=related
@@
February 26th, 2011
6:31 pm
03, I do scroll past them and have never said a word to you in real time regarding your pathetic behavior on Friday nights
Oh puhleeeeze and thpbbppbt!
No real time, just lag time? As if….
Howz’bout this, AmVet….NO TIME!
Who made you King of Anything?
md
February 26th, 2011
7:25 pm
“Let’s face it, I don’t want to be the world police anymore. What do we get with our interference? We had a civil war, it wasn’t very pretty. Each country will be better off with their own manifest destiny.”
Mick, you do realize that we had help in “our” civil war….right?
I’m guessing had you and Adam been around in the 40’s, France would have been on it’s own too.
You guys are soooo confusing………you want to help every “poor thing” regardless of how they got there yet have no trouble taking a pass on the unborn and ‘foreigners” fighting for their freedom……
Sure hope neither of you are my neighbors if thugs ever break into my house and assault my family………I can see that we would be on our own……….
Normal
February 26th, 2011
7:26 pm
Scout,
I’ll se your Telly and raise you a Greene…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCyuq-ofnPc
md
February 26th, 2011
7:33 pm
“We shouldn’t really be seeing the ripple effects for at least 3 more months, however, it seems what happens in the oil world on Tuesday can be immediately justified as an oil price hike on Wednesday. ”
Not exactly how it works………….the stations jack up their rates due to the rest of the speculators…..they have to have enough money on hand to pay the truck when it brings in the next load, and have no idea what the cost is going to be……it is their way of hedging fuel prices……..
Now, on the going back down side, they just want the bucks…………
If one did their research, they may find that the US has enough oil on it’s own shores to last for the next 100+ years……….but the misfits won’t tell that to the public. We are the pawns………..
@@
February 26th, 2011
8:16 pm
9 great places to be a recluse
1. Rongbuk Monastery Guesthouse, Mt. Everest
Location: Tibet Autonomous Region, China
Too cold.
2. Great White Lake, Mongolia
Location: Central Mongolia, between Tariat town and Terkhiin Tsaagan Nuur’s eastern shore
Horseback riding? Yeah! Yaks? Nay!
3. Kettuvallam houseboat, India
Location: State of Kerala, southern India
They look like giant wicker baskets.
A modern day Moses? Naha!
4. Wilson Island, Great Barrier Reef, Australia
Location: Off the coast of Gladstone, Australia
Now we’re talkin’. $680 per night!!??!! Now we’re not talkin’.
5. Takaro Peace Resort, New Zealand
Location: South Island, New Zealand
BINGO!
6. International Dhamma Hermitage, Thailand
Location: Chaiya, Thailand
Too many perverts lurking about.
7. Alert, Canada
Location: Nunavut, Canada
Alert is the last stop for civilization in the northern hemisphere. Permanent population? 5.
Must be cold there too.
8. Kulala Wilderness Camp, Namibia
Location: Namib Desert, Namibia
If by becoming a recluse your intention is to feel small and insignificant, you need look no further than the Sossusvlei in the southern part of the Namib Desert. Sossusvlei roughly translates as “marsh of no return.”
I may wanna come back, so Sossusylei is a no go.
9. Loisaba Wilderness, Kenya
Location: Laikipia, Kenya
For $740 I can sleep on a star bed which juts out over the Ewaso Ng’iro River. I’ll need a mosquito net.
No thanks.
New Zealand for $190 per night, per person. Sorry, babe! You’re not a recluse. You’ll have to stay home….all by yourself.
Disgusted
February 26th, 2011
8:30 pm
If one did their research, they may find that the US has enough oil on it’s own shores to last for the next 100+ years……….but the misfits won’t tell that to the public. We are the pawns………
Recoveraable US oil, including Alaska, the continental shelf, etc.—134 billion barrels. US daily oil usage: 21 million barrels per day, or 7,665,000,000 barrels per year. By my reckoning, that’s enough to last for 17.63 years, if all were recovered. Want to give me a clue about this new oil find that only you know about?
Adam
February 26th, 2011
8:47 pm
md: I’m guessing had you and Adam been around in the 40’s, France would have been on it’s own too.
Uh no. There is no comparison here. Given what was happening I would have said to go in sooner. However, the world of today is not the world of violent actions solving every problem. The people in these countries are doing the job for themselves.
And if I was your neighbor md, and I saw a way to help prevent an invasion of your home I would definitely be there to help. Can you see the difference between an outside invasion force and a revolt from within? I wouldn’t be holding your kids down if they decided to revolt against you and throw you out of your own home. It would be weird and wrong, but it isn’t my place to go solve your family problems. If the police need to be called for domestic disturbance, I would. But beyond that only an invasion of your home would prompt me getting involved in the way you’re suggesting.
Mick
February 26th, 2011
8:57 pm
md
Yes, I know, I know but there was a period of time when we were isolationist….we need some time to rebuild this country, look inward….we need to be selective about who gets help and how much….If you were my neighbor, I would look after you as I know you would me….
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 26th, 2011
9:34 pm
@@:
Dong Ha mountain (formerly South Vietnam) ………………….
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 26th, 2011
10:11 pm
Facts overshadowed in debate over union bill
The central part of Walker’s argument is that government workers have long escaped painful cuts that those in the private sector have had to bear. That ignores the fact that under Walker’s predecessor, Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle, state workers were forced to take furlough days that amounted to a 3 percent pay cut. State employees have also not had a raise for more than two years.
Even so, Walker has portrayed public employees as the “haves” and private workers as the “have nots,” saying government workers can afford trims to their salaries and benefits because on average they earn more than private-sector workers.
This is true as a straight average, but several national reports of public versus private pay say it’s also misleading.
In a report released in December 2010, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics found that the average state/local government worker earns $40.10 an hour in salary and benefits. The same report found the average private worker earns $27.68 an hour in salary and benefits.
But the report was quick to note that this is not a direct comparison. Government workers tend to be better-educated than their private-sector counterparts, and government jobs are more likely to be professional or managerial as opposed to the many more manufacturing and sales jobs in the private work force.
In fact, studies that compare salaries and benefits for similar jobs between the public and private sectors show that government workers lag.
Tin Ear
February 26th, 2011
10:51 pm
“But every once in a while you hear a gift so unique that it makes you pay attention immediately.”
Late to the party again. Didn’t care for Adele’s music until about 30 seconds into the song, then it kinda got the hook into me. Another winner, thank you Jay.
md
February 26th, 2011
11:05 pm
Adam and Mick….they are our neighbors, and they are asking for our help………….and dieing to prove their sincerity in asking…………..
Mick
February 26th, 2011
11:52 pm
md
Not buying….
@@
February 27th, 2011
8:47 am
Banks Bristle at Mortgage-Loan Plan
Banks have resisted reducing loan balances in part because of concerns that it could encourage more borrowers to stop making payments in order to receive a smaller loan.
‘YA THINK!!!??!!!
Human nature being what it is TODAY, I have no doubts.
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031:
When I first read your 9:34, I saw Dung Ha Mountain. Then Dong Ha Mountain.
Neither sounds intriguing but thanks anyway.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
10:27 am
Normal:
I remember that one.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
10:29 am
@@
No ………. it’s “Dong” Ha …………
Jungle ……….. near where a tiger followed me once and later a Marine was killed by a tiger near there.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
10:34 am
md, et al:
As I have so often heard, “someone” is going to be the world’s superpower.
At one time it was going to be Germany. We said no.
At one time it was going to be Russia. We said no.
Now the possibility exists for it to be China. Is that what we want?
A superpower is either benevolent or malevolent.
If it’s malevolent it desires power and works for evil in the world.
It it’s benevolent it desires freedom for others and works for good.
Which do we want ?
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 27th, 2011
10:55 am
As I have so often heard, “someone” is going to be the world’s superpower.
Of course, nobody wants to see China as a superpower. However, if/while we are going to be the world’s superpower, we should not overreach in our desire to see democracy spread. We should only act when asked, and then only to protect the defenseless. We don’t have to put boots on the ground anytime there’s commotion inside someone’s borders. We do not want outside interference in our dispute between the GOP and organized labor, so I think we should not always stick our head into the disputes in other countries.
N-GA
February 27th, 2011
11:28 am
Jay…We all have songs that remind us of the women we love. This one is mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF0WSLEKFnc
Adam
February 27th, 2011
11:54 am
md: Had not heard they were asking for help. If they are, then I say sure let’s provide it if we can. So the question really is: Can we? And can we do it without some party blaming the other party for the expenses in order to get more votes later?
Adam
February 27th, 2011
11:58 am
Facebook status recently said let’s just buy American to send a message that we want our jobs back. Take it one step further and only buy American made by Americans.
I say this is a good idea, but I had a naysayer. The argument: The world is built on trade. While I agree, I wanted her to show me American made products being made in America that are being exported, versus the stuff that doesn’t fit that description being bought by our citizens. I suspect we import more “American products” than we export. I would like to know who’s right on this but have no data either way. Any takers on a fact finding mission?
DebbieDoRight
February 27th, 2011
12:18 pm
Take it one step further and only buy American made by Americans.
Whoa! That’ll be almost impossible to find!! It’s hard to even find cloth that’s manufactured in the US ( I think @@ once told me that her father-in-law once worked at a very profitable textile mill here in Georgia but that mill has since now transferred to someplace overseas).
About 2 years ago there was this documentary done, (don’t ask me by who – I watch so many!), but it was of this family who was searching for American made/owned/produced sneakers for their kids. It took them two years to find them.
I suspect we import more “American products” than we export. I would like to know who’s right on this but have no data either way. Any takers on a fact finding mission?
I’m a researcher by trade (more or less) – I’ll look for you, it might take me a couple of days but I’ll get back with you on my findings.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 27th, 2011
12:41 pm
Facebook status recently said let’s just buy American to send a message that we want our jobs back.
Impossible task you’re seeking. The jobs that have left are not coming back. The only way that happens is if you lower labor costs here to less what it costs to make and ship back now. Unless you’re seeking $2 a day wages, those jobs are not going to see US soil again.
On the other hand, if you persuade Congress to do away with all the free trade agreements and re-institute tarriffs on imports, there’s a slight chance that jobs could return here. That would only happen if it becomes cheaper to manufacture here as opposed to importing things.
jt
February 27th, 2011
1:07 pm
0311/0317 – 1811/1801-
“A superpower is either benevolent or malevolent.
If it’s malevolent it desires power and works for evil in the world.
It it’s benevolent it desires freedom for others and works for good.
Which do we want ?”
jt replies—————
Is this a trick question? Which one is the U.S? Do you put her in the benevolent column or evil column?
I would personally like a superpower that didn’t lock up the highest proportion of its population in the world. Ask a young kid getting gang-raped in prison for smoking a weed how benevolent the U.S. is.
I would personally like a superpower that did not abort the highest proportion of its population in the world. Ask the millions of unborn each year……………oops ,ya can’t…. musloooom countries can ask MORE children about their respective opinions on their country’s benevolence. Who is evil?
I would like a superpower that didn’t prefer to cut Women with Infant Children(WIC) but STILL affords 500 million dollars for Military BANDS……..
I would prefer a superpower that chose NOT to steal ANY money for the above purposes.
Possibly ,…1 million Iraqians would disagree about your idea of benevolence(if that feeling is possible in the afterlife).
Ditto Vietnemese,Cambodians, Phillopinos, etc……………………………
I would really like an answer to your 10:34.
I know which it is that I want. Freedom.
jt
February 27th, 2011
1:13 pm
From Lew Rockwell——————-Your Daily Hypocrisy Alert——————–Let us lecture Gaddafi on violence………..wait until Americans revolt—————-Goldman Sachs WILL show a profit——-
“The US is sanctions-happy. but that does not explain the freezing of Gaddafi’s and his family’s wealth, nor forbidding their traveling. His funds are stolen from the people? Of course, just like all US and other government funds. He’s a monster? Of course, just like the head of virtually every government in human history. He has yet to kill a million Iraqis like G.W. Bush. But why the sanctions now? To try to make sure that Gaddafi does not leave before the US and NATO can arrange a UN-approved invasion, protectorate, and take-over of the oil. It reminds me of the reason the US always demands unconditional surrender: to keep its wars–which are so good for the government, the Pentagon, and the arms industries–going as long as possible.”
@@
February 27th, 2011
1:39 pm
Debbie:
( I think @@ once told me that her father-in-law once worked at a very profitable textile mill here in Georgia but that mill has since now transferred to someplace overseas).
I never said THAT. What I said was the mill went bankrupt. As I recall, the workers blamed it on NAFTA. The mill didn’t relocate, they just closed. Couldn’t keep up with foreign competitors.
Wasn’t profitable enough to keep my father-in-law there. He left before they closed. Opened up a pool hall and made bookcoo buckos working for himself. Hard work and long hours, six days a week. Sold pool room hamburgers…all the rage in that small town. I found them to be rather tasteless and greasy, but people still talk about his pool room hamburgers. Had some kinda secret seasoning. Like I said…never had an impact on my tongue but they’re still legendary.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
2:06 pm
jt:
If you can’t tell the difference among a Nazi Germany, the old Soviet Union or modern Communist China vs the United States then there is nothing I can do to help you.
Thanks for your input …………. you would not have been able to do that with impunity in any of the other three countries.
Adam
February 27th, 2011
2:26 pm
DebbieDoRight: I appreciate it. I don’t suppose you could teach this man how to fish (for information) too?
@@
February 27th, 2011
2:43 pm
031:
You want me to stay in a jungle where man eaters roam?
Is theirs a restrictive diet? Men only?
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DNR investigating Eldrin Bell’s elephant ride at circus
My daughter and I rode an elephant once. It was sooooo kewl!!! A kinda lumbering…side to side…to and fro thingy. Propelled us into a circular motion. Busch Gardens, I think it was.
Didn’t know I could die doing it though.
Glad I had the opportunity before the government stepped into it.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
2:58 pm
@@:
No ………. they are equal opportunity tigers.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
2:59 pm
@@:
“DNR investigating Eldrin Bell’s elephant ride at circus”
But driving on the perimeter is not dangerous ?
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
3:02 pm
Something I think we can ALL agree on !!! This is why we live in Atlanta :
http://vortex.plymouth.edu/uschill.gif
@@
February 27th, 2011
3:17 pm
031:
But driving on the perimeter is not dangerous ?
Only if the loop is inhabited by an enraged bull moose, a preening female, a texting titmouse or a bluetoothed yak.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
3:41 pm
WOW !!!
HEADLINE: “U.S. ‘READY AND PREPARED’ TO AID LIBYA OPPOSITION”
Now hear this ……. now hear this ……… Land the landing force ……….. Marines prepare to disembark ………… Marines prepare to disembark !
“From the halls of Montezuma
to the shores of TRIPOLI ……….. !!! ”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Rs8aCHgRc&feature=related
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
4:18 pm
Headline: “The AP reports that the British military evacuated 150 people by Libya on Saturday”
“British military planes entered Libyan air space to rescue oil workers and others from desert locations Saturday in a daring and secret mission meant to save those unable to flee escalating violence.
The C-130 Hercules planes, carrying Britons and other nationals, safely landed in Malta after picking up the civilians south of the eastern Libyan port of Benghazi, Defense Secretary Liam Fox said.
The rescue mission was bold because few planes have been able to fly through Libyan air space. It was not immediately clear if it was a British special forces mission, but the government has not ruled out using the SAS to evacuate Libyan oil fields and rescue trapped Britons.
The mission apparently took place with great secrecy………….. “
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 27th, 2011
5:42 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/26/AR2011022602622.html?hpid=topnews
Even as the opposition consolidated its grip on the country’s second city, Benghazi, a top anti-Gaddafi leader, Brig. Gen. Ahmed Gatrani, said a small force comprising army defectors and rebels has already reached the outskirts of the capital. An attempt to oust Gaddafi in Tripoli on Friday was crushed by pro-regime paramilitaries and soldiers firing indiscriminately at protesters on the streets.
Seems like the people in Libya intent on getting rid of Gaddafi are working at it on their own, without outside influence. The greatest satisfaction is gained by accomplishing your goals with your own effort and not riding the coattails of others.
Pogo
February 27th, 2011
5:50 pm
Our industrial base (steel, autos, clothes, etc.) moved out of the US for two reasons; number one, because of high labor costs (compared to the rest of the world) we cannot make products here that are low enough in cost for our American “Dollar Store” loving public to buy. Number two, it was because of corporate greed. Both hold just as much responsibility in the demise of our industrial base as the other and we can’t have it both ways. The reality is that we cannot have high wages for industrial labor and expect to have low priced items on the store shelves. There are laborers in the world that work for $2.50/day and are proud to get it and they make products that all of us over here enjoy because of their low costs. The real problem with the industrial situation the US now is that the Amercian consumer wants cheap stuff but yet we expect to be paid premium wages and benefits way, way beyond what the rest of the world is willing to accept to produce products. I can only laugh at the public worker unions equivocating themselves with the struggles of the real labor unions (Iron Workers, Boilermakers, Carpenters, Laborers). If the public union members met the the private union members on the street, they wouldn’t spit on them. There is no place for public service unions in this country.
hmmm
February 27th, 2011
6:10 pm
The greatest satisfaction is gained by accomplishing your goals with your own effort and not riding the coattails of others.
No redistribution of wealth?
No collective bargaining?
Three cheers for Southern Comfort!
HIP HIP HOORAY!
HIP HIP HOORAY!
HIP HIP HOORAY!
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 27th, 2011
6:33 pm
No redistribution of wealth?
No collective bargaining?
What does either of those questions have to do with Libya and their fight to get rid of their oppressor? I try to stay away from those bumper sticker slogans because that’s all they are worth. Riding on the rear of somebody’s car.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
6:58 pm
Southern Comfort @ 5:42
And if they can’t ?
Dave R.
February 27th, 2011
7:05 pm
Nice to see that Bookman and others actually did their homework on the misspent stimulus money.
Here’s some other fodder to chew on: Some jobs “saved or created” were faked. Case in point; a little known project (unless you’ve driven it as I have for the past 5 years) improving the I-84 corridor through the north-eastern Pennsylvania area of Wilkes-Barre / Scranton. That project was started 5 years ago, long before the ARRA was even considered. Now, most people should know that Federal road projects aren’t begun unless funding is in place to fully complete the project, so bottom-line, this project was already fully funded.
What happened after the stimulus bill was passed? Those expensive and much-ballyhooed signs touting “This project made possible by the ARRA, etc, etc, etc” began showing up on the I-84 corridor! Jobs were SAVED! Jobs were CREATED!
Jobs were FAKED!.
This administration is pathetic.
getalife
February 27th, 2011
7:20 pm
The gop thought you cons said take jobs not create jobs.
Where are the jobs?
At least there will be no shut down for a couple of weeks.
Ooh! Look! A Ducky!
February 27th, 2011
7:23 pm
Said Dave R.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 27th, 2011
8:10 pm
What happened after the stimulus bill was passed? Those expensive and much-ballyhooed signs touting “This project made possible by the ARRA, etc, etc, etc” began showing up on the I-84 corridor! Jobs were SAVED! Jobs were CREATED!
Jobs were FAKED!.
This administration is pathetic.
Well, amen! Let’s get the Rev. Huckabee in there. We need God in the White House. There won’t be anymore jobs, but we’ll be on the path to Heaven. Let’s send more jobs overseas and look up for the Rapture! You won’t need a job or money if you leave this world behind.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 27th, 2011
8:32 pm
And if they can’t ?
If they can’t AND they specifically ask our help in doing that, then we should help them. Otherwise, our best position is that of an interested bystander.
md
February 27th, 2011
9:02 pm
“If they can’t AND they specifically ask our help in doing that, then we should help them.”
I have heard various media outlets airing calls from folks inside Libya asking for assistance………so, who exactly are “they” ??
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 27th, 2011
9:11 pm
“they” are the people of Libya. I haven’t been watching the news lately, so I haven’t been keeping up with what’s going on. My word of caution when it comes to us getting engaged in any of the uprisings in the ME would be to remember the collapse of the Soviet Union.
If we’re so worried about our deficit and debt that we’re willing to cut aid to mothers and children here, can we afford to get involved in each and every uprising in the ME?
md
February 27th, 2011
9:16 pm
“If we’re so worried about our deficit and debt that we’re willing to cut aid to mothers and children here, can we afford to get involved in each and every uprising in the ME?”
The way I see it, we are already paying for carrier task forces around the globe, don’t see much difference if they fly over the open Mediterranean (etc) or Libya…………….send in a few fighters and establish a no fly zone to protect the people vs allowing mass slaughter………
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 27th, 2011
9:23 pm
md
Maybe there’s already a carrier task force in the area. There’s been a presence in the Persian Gulf since we first went into Afghanistan. I don’t think that policy has ended.
Del
February 27th, 2011
9:46 pm
I think we should drop SOCOM troopers into Libya with snuff operation orders. Marine Force Recon would be a great pick.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 27th, 2011
10:10 pm
Southern Comfort:
I think md is right on the money. Just a few of our fighters could sweep & keep the skies clean.
If I am not mistaken, the rebels have already asked for that but …………………….
USinUK
February 28th, 2011
6:37 am
awwwwwwwwww — Happy Anniversary to you and Mrs. B!!
and best wishes for many more
(and Adele rocks!)
Normal
February 28th, 2011
7:20 am
Good Monday morning all y’all, and a funny for ya.
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/02/25/political-pictures-abraham-lincoln-glenn-beck-republicans/
Sad news…the last World War I veteran died this weekend…
USinUK
February 28th, 2011
7:23 am
Normal – BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahahahaha
great laugh to start my day …
USinUK
February 28th, 2011
7:24 am
(the picture, obviously, not the sad news about losing the last serviceman from the War to End All Wars)
stands for decibels
February 28th, 2011
7:28 am
Mornin’.
Since we’re on the topic, a link:
Last World War I veteran Frank W. Buckles dies at 110
Normal
February 28th, 2011
7:29 am
I thout you might like that one, USinUK.
Yeah, the last of a generation is sad. The War To End All Wars…go figure. I wonder, as he lived through all of the history he did, did he still think it was worth it to lie about his age. I would guess so.
USinUK
February 28th, 2011
7:32 am
Normal – seriously. the hell those men lived through is just unimaginable. trench warfare at its most brutal.
Normal
February 28th, 2011
7:33 am
And Frank Bulkles had to endure this too…
After the armistice, he traveled the globe as a purser on commercial ships and was caught in Manila when Japan invaded the Philippines in 1941. He endured 38 months of cruel deprivation as a civilian prisoner during World War II before being freed in a daring military raid.
What a man! What a life!!
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 28th, 2011
7:36 am
dB
Thanks for the link. Had I known he was in Charles Town when I was there last year, I would have stopped by for a chat. Talk about living history…..
USinUK
February 28th, 2011
7:40 am
Normal and SoCo – I wonder if he talked about it … my uncle never talks about WWII – he has pictures of his unit, but if you ask him about what it was like, he changes the subject
I can’t imagine anyone wanting to talk about what it was like as a japanese POW
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 28th, 2011
7:51 am
USinner
Just to talk to him would have been cool regardless of the subject. It would have been two years ago that I was in that area. Time flies when you’re having fun.
Mick
February 28th, 2011
7:54 am
**he has pictures of his unit, but if you ask him about what it was like, he changes the subject**
A different generation that has not sold out their beliefs or values…
USinUK
February 28th, 2011
7:55 am
SoCo – I agree – even if he didn’t want to talk about the wars – my god, the other changes he’s seen
Normal
February 28th, 2011
7:56 am
My Doctors told me to talk to anybody who was willing to listen about ‘Nam…but there were few who were willing…
Dad and I got drunk together summer of ‘70…I had just got out of a hospital, and we talked a little about our war experiences. Jungles or the sands of Normandy, it doesn’t matter, it’s all a unnatural hell. We cried that night together…and I must admit, the healing began between us then.
USinUK
February 28th, 2011
7:57 am
Mick – “grit” doesn’t even begin to describe my uncle – the guy is 92 and has been out shoveling the drive each and every snow they’ve had this year (in NY) – not to mention, he took care of his mom until the day she died – he’s amazing
stands for decibels
February 28th, 2011
7:57 am
apropos of nothing in particular, I happened to notice that, few weeks back, hotair.com actually saw fit to use 538 Nate Silver’s charts for the betting-man’s take on 2012 Republican Presidential candidates.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/05/the-galaxy-of-2012-gop-stars/
(I thought it was interesting in a strange-bedfellows kinda way, although I’ve always asserted that Nate strives for neutrality in his polling analysis.)
stands for decibels
February 28th, 2011
8:00 am
As for Frank Buckles, it seems he thoroughly enjoyed his accidental-celebrity status, and enjoyed talking about the part he played serving in the first World War. Sounds like the best possible way for this man to close that last chapter; I’m very happy for him, today, strange as that may sound.
USinUK
February 28th, 2011
8:03 am
since we’re all loitering and waiting for a topic … for anyone who has been looking for good coverage of the WI protests, I give you … Athenae …
http://www.first-draft.com/2011/02/breaking-through.html
(btw – check out her post on the Beer Barrel Polka protest)
AmVet
February 28th, 2011
8:07 am
Another Monday in paradise!
Normal, you are one of the good guys. And I have loved reading about all of your wonderful (or otherwise) stories…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFl0nlHaWa4
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 28th, 2011
8:12 am
I think md is right on the money. Just a few of our fighters could sweep & keep the skies clean.
If I am not mistaken, the rebels have already asked for that but
If we can afford to send a few fighters to enforce a no fly zone over the ME every time there’s an uprising, then we really don’t have a serious debt problem, do we? Or is it just that any military action is exempt from the debt?
USinUK
February 28th, 2011
8:14 am
“Or is it just that any military action is exempt from the debt?”
aka The W budget … just keep it on separate books!
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 28th, 2011
8:26 am
USinner
I’m perplexed about this whole budget thing. We hear that basically, the sky is falling because of our budget. At the same time, we’re supposed to send our military over to aid uprisings in the ME. Before I get accused, I firmly believe that someone has to help protect the innocent from dictators turning their military forces against civilians. My question is, does it always have to be the USA?
We’re accomplishing what the USSR couldn’t do to us. We’re going to militarily spend ourselves into oblivion if we’re not careful.
stands for decibels
February 28th, 2011
8:33 am
Intrade sheets.
md
February 28th, 2011
8:36 am
“If we can afford to send a few fighters to enforce a no fly zone over the ME every time there’s an uprising, then we really don’t have a serious debt problem, do we?”
As I said before, the planes are already out and about and being paid for……….I would think priorities would be necessary in situations of life and death……………..but that seems to be just me and a few others around here.
Instead, we’ll throw away more money paying for healthcare of all the diehard self proclaimed thugs on the nations streets………….
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 28th, 2011
9:05 am
md
That explanation, I can reason and agree with. Personally, I think we should start charging a “protection fee”. If we’re going to be police of the world, we should earn something tangible from it.
md
February 28th, 2011
9:41 am
“Personally, I think we should start charging a “protection fee”. If we’re going to be police of the world, we should earn something tangible from it.”
No argument from me on that one………whoever we “protect” absolutely should share the burden.
But, considering we allow folks to choose not to pay taxes in our own country, I won’t hold my breath on this ever happening.
Adam
March 2nd, 2011
10:24 pm
No to the idea of a protection fee. Are we really going to demand a “pizzo” from countries?
Here’s a thought: Does anyone remember what happened when we “helped” in Cuba? How about when we “helped” in Afghanistan so many years ago? What about when we “helped” in Iran? We created nations of dictators.
We should STAY OUT OF IT. Our meddling leads to results we DON’T like more than it leads to results we DO like. We have no business running around the world and telling everyone how to live. The protests in these middle eastern and Africa countries show us that they can handle it on their own!