Obama abandons defense of federal gay-marriage ban
The Obama administration has announced it will no longer try to defend Section 3 of the federal Defense of Marriage Act from lawsuits alleging the law is unconstitutional. (The law forbids the federal government from recognizing any marriage other than that between a man and a woman.)
The decision is big news, but probably not as big as some have suggested. In real terms, it probably doesn’t change much at all. As Attorney General Eric Holder noted in the announcement:
“Section 3 of DOMA will continue to remain in effect unless Congress repeals it or there is a final judicial finding that strikes it down, and the President has informed me that the Executive Branch will continue to enforce the law. But while both the wisdom and the legality of Section 3 of DOMA will continue to be the subject of both extensive litigation and public debate, this Administration will no longer assert its constitutionality in court.”
In other words, it’s still law, and despite concerns about constitutionality, the Obama administration will still honor it. Other parties, including members of Congress, are also still free to defend the law from constitutional challenges already underway in several federal court jurisdictions.
One of the constitutional issues at stake involves states rights. Marriage has always been regulated and defined by the states; the federal government, for example, does not issue marriage licenses, and nothing in the Constitution gives it the power to do so. The entire area of family law — marriage, divorce, child custody, etc., — has been a state responsibility.
Last year, a federal judge in Massachusetts — a Nixon appointee — ruled the law unconstitutional on just those grounds, citing the Tenth Amendment:
It is a fundamental principle underlying our federalist system of government that “[e]very law enacted by Congress must be based on one or more of its powers enumerated in the Constitution.” And, correspondingly, the Tenth Amendment provides that “[t]he powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” The division between state and federal powers delineated by the Constitution is not merely “formalistic.” Rather, the Tenth Amendment “leaves to the several States a residuary and inviolable sovereignty.” This reflects a founding principle of governance in this country, that “[s]tates are not mere political subdivision of the United States,” but rather sovereigns unto themselves.”
Despite their professed reverence for the Tenth Amendment — U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, you might recall, said “the very future of freedom and limited government depends (on it)” — I doubt many conservatives will find the judge’s logic convincing.
– Jay Bookman
Tell us what you think about the site
Customer Care »
Vacation stops, manage subscriptions and more
AJC Services
Sections
Other Editions
Visitor Agreement | Privacy Statement
© 2013 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
476 comments Add your comment
AmVet
February 23rd, 2011
5:58 pm
No worries 03.
It’s all good. (As long as you don’t keep up the political jabbing on Friday nights!)
This may be more your cup of tea…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukunx21UHCA
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
5:59 pm
jewcowboy
February 23rd, 2011
5:54 pm
Maybe you need to be on Obama’s economic team and sell the SRJs again when asking for another round of stimulus money.
Keep up the good fight!
February 23rd, 2011
6:00 pm
From the GA DOT…
Projects that are “shovel -ready” must address the following criteria:
•Meet all standard federal eligibility requirements
•Meet federal functional classification requirements
•Environmental clearances in accordance with the National Environmental Protection Act (NEPA)
•Right-of-way acquisition and certification in accordance with the Uniform Relocation Assistance and Real Property Acquisitions Policy Act
•Projects must be included or amended into STIP/TIPs
•Must be “ready to go” ◦Phase 1: Authorize for letting no later than June 30, 2009
◦Phase 2: Authorize for letting no later than December 30, 2009
Tommy Maddox
February 23rd, 2011
6:02 pm
Eric Holder – our national Paul Howard.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
6:02 pm
AmVet
February 23rd, 2011
5:48 pm
Big Eddie Money fan here. Saw him 3 times. Were you familiar with his version of Smokey Robinson’s “You Really got a hold on me”? Very good song.
jewcowboy
February 23rd, 2011
6:04 pm
Ok…I’m out of here to meet friends for a cocktail or 4…y’all have a nice evening.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
6:04 pm
Keep up the good fight!
February 23rd, 2011
6:00 pm
Nice “facts” from 2009. Obama admitted in October 2010 there were no shovel ready jobs. Maybe you should contact your local representative with your facts and pass it along to the POTUS.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
6:05 pm
jewcowboy
February 23rd, 2011
6:04 pm
Toss one back for me.
AmVet
February 23rd, 2011
6:05 pm
Scoot, I think he was, though the song was written by a couple of other guys, one of whom was a big CCR collaborator.
From his eponymous debut record…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnKmVL0UkYk&feature=fvw
BTW, it was not Lennon/McCartney who write it, twas Smokey Robinson…
AmVet
February 23rd, 2011
6:06 pm
Lamp @6:02, too funny!
Brilliant minds…
AmVet
February 23rd, 2011
6:07 pm
BTW, I talked with one of my friends out in LA earlier today and she said she is going to go see him when he is playing there next month.
I bet he does do one helluva show…
Real Scooter
February 23rd, 2011
6:09 pm
Good job AmVet! You actually got Leg Lamp to stop bashing Obama for a bit.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
6:11 pm
AmVet
February 23rd, 2011
6:07 pm
First saw him at the Dog Day Rock Fest (later called the “Champagne Jam”) in Atlanta in the late 70s, again in the early 80s, and finally in the late 80s at the Fox. The show at the Fox was my favorite. I had great seats and he possessed a full catalog by that time. He started off with “We Should Be Sleeping” and never took his foot off the accelerator.
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
6:13 pm
Enter your comments here
Midori
February 23rd, 2011
6:14 pm
Indiana Attorney General Greg Zoeller has dismissed a deputy, Jeff Cox, for posting inappropriate comments online critical of the labor union protesters in Wisconsin.
Cox sent out a message on his Twitter account saying that police should “use live ammunition” against the protesters.
-snip-
This afternoon, the office issued a statement saying Cox was no longer employed there. The office said it had conducted “a thorough and expeditious review” after it learned of the Mother Jones article.
“Civility and courtesy toward all members of the public are very important to the Indiana Attorney General’s office. We respect individual’s First Amendment right to express their personal views on private online forums, but as public servants we are held by the public to a higher standard, and we should strive for civility,” the office said in a statement.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20110223/NEWS05/1022304…
AmVet
February 23rd, 2011
6:14 pm
Alas, Lamp, in spite of the many, many concerts I’ve seen, I missed him.
This one has that sweet, string ladened, blue-eyed, Philly soul sound made famous by Hall & Oates…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPtNZj6uzDY&feature=related
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
6:17 pm
AmVet
February 23rd, 2011
6:14 pm
Saw H2O twice. Very good.
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
6:18 pm
And my 6:13 pretty much says it. Jewcowboy’s first comment is one I second. That said, I do find the 10th Amendment rationale ironic in extremis, and it’s fun as a barrel of monkeys watching the strict “believers” and those who just love to equate the 10th Amendment with all the backward thinkers finding themselves doing a two-step. Paraphrasing Jaybird, there’s less to this than meets the eye.
Paulo977
February 23rd, 2011
6:24 pm
Keep up the
good fight…”I just saw Obama speak in the past few hours.” Some people hear what they want to hear i.e. when it fits into their ‘beliefs’ .. truth has nothing to do with it!
Pogo
February 23rd, 2011
6:26 pm
More power to the AJC on this one. I couldn’t believe they actually printed it. More evidence that taxpayer money that is given under “government” control means the taxpayers get soaked everytime. Again, hats off to the AJC. Maybe they at last are starting to realize just how corrupt that city’s “leaders” truly are.
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/audit-questions-atlantas-ability-850094.html
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
6:26 pm
josef
Well, I think the 10th Amendment is responsible for the common cold, and it will also be the key to stopping the Mayans for killing us all next year.
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
6:28 pm
SoCo
Keep up the good fight!
February 23rd, 2011
6:30 pm
Paulo977…definitely, truth had nothing to do with the post…even funnier was that the link was there as proof.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
6:31 pm
Paulo977
February 23rd, 2011
6:24 pm
Straighten up and stop listing to the left all the time. The headline I posted was from this morning. Obama finally spoke later that same day. It doesn’t take away from the fact that he remained silent for far too long. But go ahead, continue your leftie indoctrination.
Keep up the good fight!
February 23rd, 2011
6:38 pm
Leggie…by the time you posted your “headline” he had already spoken. You did not post your headline this morning.
Wanna try again on the misinformation, spin and lies?
Pogo
February 23rd, 2011
6:40 pm
Taxpayer, the republicans only took the House in January of this year (2011 if you didn’t know) and it is now February the 22 of this same year. Based upon your politically/ideologically warped expectations, Obama should have been having us all having jobs, buying second houses and grilling rib-eyes in the back yard by March of 2009. Are you really that stupid or have you just totally lost touch with reality because you think that “the man” has somehow done you wrong?
Doggone/GA
February 23rd, 2011
6:47 pm
“Based upon your politically/ideologically warped expectations”
Hmmmm…can’t quite put my finger on it, but this just sounds SO familiar
Normal
February 23rd, 2011
6:50 pm
Just heard on the news that a Georgia State representative wants to make miscarriages a felony murder charge “unless proven that there was no human involvement.” The dude’s name is Franklin and he’s nut’s.
Normal
February 23rd, 2011
6:52 pm
Josef,
I said it earlier…let anybody marry anybody else and be miserable with the rest of us!
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
6:54 pm
normal
Equality! Ain’t it grand!
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
6:55 pm
Keep up the good fight!
February 23rd, 2011
6:38 pm
Oh, okay. I was a little late with the post. But does the fact that Obama spoke after 5PM take away from the fact that he remained silent for about 9 days? Perhaps in lefty land.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
6:55 pm
Normal
AMEN!!!!!!!!
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
7:00 pm
Keep up the good fight!
February 23rd, 2011
6:38 pm
Speaking of “misinformation, spin and lies”, I thought you might be kind of silent after yesterday.
Our noted historian, KUTGF, stated the Iraq War began 10 years ago. When challenged, she denied it even though it’s in black and white.
She later posted that I claimed she said the Afghan War started 10 years ago, which was wrong. That statement was NOT in black and white. Just if her mind.
She later quoted me and said that I DID claim she said the Iraq War started 10 years ago.
I tried to explain that Iraq and Afghanistan were two different countries, but to no avail.
You’re like an overly used tea bag. No potency but just a taint of substance.
And now you claim that since POTUS spoke today after 5PM that he didn’t remain silent for days and days about Libya.
BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
February 23rd, 2011
7:04 pm
Kut goof (previously known as Keep Up The GOOd Fight)
Sorry I’ll miss your “witty”, yet erroneous, retort to my previous post. It would probably end my day with a big laugh.
Outta here.
Bud Wiser
February 23rd, 2011
7:04 pm
Oh with the Middle East on fire, gas prices skyrocketing now almost hourly (but you dimwits like that, don’t you; whistling a Mary Poppins tune while you grease each others’…..bikes) and the moron in the White House so very quiet (is it silence or is it stupidity?), this is really top shelf material, Bookman.
Really top shelf.
Sylvester
February 23rd, 2011
7:05 pm
“…will no longer try to defend Section 3 of the federal Defense of Marriage Act from lawsuits alleging the law is unconstitutional. (The law forbids the federal government from recognizing any marriage other than that between a man and a woman.)”
All RIGHT! It’s just a matter of time now till my dream of marrying my cat becomes reality.
Keep up the good fight!
February 23rd, 2011
7:06 pm
Leggy…oh was that your point? Do tell, what are your qualifications to determine foreign policy and when it is appropriate for the President to speak on issues and to consider the impact it may have on US policy. Sorry, “Bring it On” is a stupid way to conduct foreign policy. Knee jerk reactions are not the proper way either. But let’s face it…if he spoke, you would attack. If he did not, you attack….and when he did speak, you still claimed he had not.
Congrats! You have mastered the non-apology apology and attack. Now draw Binky the Turtle and you too can be governor of Alaska
Keep up the good fight!
February 23rd, 2011
7:08 pm
Now Leggie, you are just having a little temper tantrum and lying because you were out of touch even after a post with the facts. .do quote me on the actual Iraq war statement. Childish.
TM
February 23rd, 2011
7:09 pm
Its amazing, the he claims he ready to handle the Middle east with no ships or carriers even close to the area,but to appease the gays and try to change the headlines he has a sudden change of heart on this issue even thought he has for the past two years aid he was in support of the act. He just trying to change the headline before everyone shows how bad a leader he is with respect to the Middle east. This is just pure BS to cover his butt and try to change the headlines.
TaxPayer
February 23rd, 2011
7:15 pm
Actually, Pogo, I just love bringing people like you out of the closet. Bravo.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
7:20 pm
Ok Bud, is Obama supposed to wave his hands over the ME and everything gets still? Better yet, does he go take a dump and supply the US with enough oil to last a century?
In spite of American exceptionalism, we are along for the ride in the ME, just like the rest of the world. Unless you’re suggesting that Obama sends in troops to go whip the sh*t out of the protesters, we can’t do diddly squat over there right now but pop some popcorn and grab a coke.
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
7:23 pm
SoCo
Bud appears to be another of those who is convinced that Obama is the Messiah…imbued with suprahuman abilities and able to perform miracles at whim or will…
Kamchak
February 23rd, 2011
7:24 pm
Better yet, does he go take a dump and supply the US with enough oil to last a century?
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
7:30 pm
josef
Yep!!!! I think it was a storm over the water where Jesus said “Peace, be still.” I’ve wondered if he could manage the same thing with our political climate today.
Kam
I figured it would have been racist if I had said wring his hands instead of taking a dump.
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
7:36 pm
SoCo
It ain’t easy being all things to all people all the time…he’s got a ton of memos to catch up on!
jm
February 23rd, 2011
7:38 pm
just to leaven things
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55e-uHQna0
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
7:39 pm
josef
I guess it’s like Evan Almighty. There’s no instructional manual that comes with “the gift.”
godless heathen
February 23rd, 2011
7:40 pm
Guys marrying guys = more chics for The Heathen.
Normal
February 23rd, 2011
7:41 pm
on marriage…
A married couple in their early 60s was celebrating their 40th
wedding anniversary in a quiet, romantic little restaurant.
Suddenly, a tiny yet beautiful fairy appeared on their table. She
said, ‘For being such an exemplary married couple and for being
loving to each other for all this time, I will grant you each a
wish.’
The wife answered, ‘Oh, I want to travel around the world with my
darling husband. The fairy waved her magic wand and – poof! – two tickets
for the Queen Mary II appeared in her hands.
The husband thought for a moment: ‘Well, this is all very romantic,
but an opportunity like this will never come again. I’m sorry my love,
but my wish is to have a wife 30 years younger than me.
The wife, and the fairy, were deeply disappointed, but a wish is a
wish. So the fairy waved her magic wand and poof!…the husband became 92
years old.
The moral of this story: Men who are ungrateful b*stards should
remember fairies are female…..
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
7:41 pm
SoCo
Wasn’t that a great movie! I hadn’t thought of it in relation to Obama…but, yeah!
jm
February 23rd, 2011
7:41 pm
godless heathen
awesome. although I don’t think marriage is / was going to change things.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 23rd, 2011
7:43 pm
0311/0317 – 1811/1801
February 23rd, 2011
5:02 pm
JAY @ 2:46
“The funny thing is, Scout now has his example of what the Tenth Amendment outlaws….”
SOME THOUGHTS:
1) This issue is so important I have always supported a Constitutional Amendment route.
2) In this case the judge and the 10th Amendment are right …….. leave it to the states.
3) However, one federal judge does not a Constitutional issue make or Obamacare is also out the window.
4) In my opinion, the Supreme Court (after the appellate decision) will have to re-establish federal jurisdiction on this or their past (and future) abuse and ignoring of the 10th Amendment will be in doubt.
5) As a case in point, a knucklehead federal judge just ruled that “mental activity” (aka “thought”) is covered by the “Commerce Clause”.
6) I’m still waiting for your “mental activity” on that ruling as per my earlier post below. …………………
0311/0317 – 1811/1801
February 23rd, 2011
11:00 am
JAY !!!
Regarding our continuing debate on the meaning of the 10th Amendment, a Clinton appointee federal district court judge in Washington (a slave owner by the way) D.C. has ruled that Congress Can Regulate “MENTAL ACTIVITY (emphasis added)” Under Commerce Clause.
Now I submit to you the following:
1) She should never have been appointed.
2) That reasoning under a plain reading of the 10th Amendment is idiotic.
3) That reasoning if upheld would make the 10th Amendment null and void.
4) Making an Amendment null and void without further amending it or abolishing it is Constitutional treason.
Your thoughts ……………………..
Del
February 23rd, 2011
7:43 pm
Well now here’s Obummer coming out after two years in office sniffing around for some votes like a rat looking for cheese. The economy is far from out of the woods, the world situation is precarious, we have warfare going on within our states and Obummer is out vote pandering. What a president, what a leader of the free world.
godless heathen
February 23rd, 2011
7:43 pm
I didn’t know Obama had so many friends in the oil business. Last time gas was this expensive, the President and VP were making their friends rich, so now it’s just the same old, same old.
jm
February 23rd, 2011
7:44 pm
Scout – here’s to hoping for a more simple minded government coming in 2012.
Simpler, smaller government is better government.
Del
February 23rd, 2011
7:45 pm
0311@7:43, outstanding post on that issue.
jm
February 23rd, 2011
7:46 pm
Del – second that. Its hard to get a good crop of Presidents these days. Bush was not fantastic either, although I don’t think he was the disaster portrayed. Although he deserves to get his knuckles whacked for their utter failure to regulate, but that was a process 30 years coming. Seems we have to be reminded of history’s lessons every so often.
jm
February 23rd, 2011
7:49 pm
Del / Scout – the biggest problem opponents have for overturning the law is that…. it doesn’t say you have to buy insurance, only that you have to pay a fine / penalty / tax / fee if you don’t. That said, on its face, its still silly.
For what else does the government penalize you for not doing something? crike. I’m glad I wasn’t alive in the 1800’s, life could be miserable. But I sure wish our government was still that size….
Del
February 23rd, 2011
7:50 pm
jm, Bush made some serious mistakes but none were self serving and up until his second term I thought he maintained presidential bearing and the dignity of the office. This guy does none of that and he’s only mid-way through his first and hopefully last term.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 23rd, 2011
7:51 pm
Southern Comfort:
“Peach be still” …………….. that was then.
This is the future:
Revelation 19:
” 11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. “
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 23rd, 2011
7:53 pm
Del @ 7:45
Thank you and I have posted it three times and Jay won’t touch it …………….. so far.
When you get him in a bind, instead of debating he just ignores.
Keep up the good fight!
February 23rd, 2011
7:53 pm
here’s to hoping for a more simple minded government
Not surprising that a righty would hope for a simple minded government….which Republican will be the simple minded President in those hopes?
Normal
February 23rd, 2011
7:54 pm
HA! Revelations, the dreams of a drunkard…
jm
February 23rd, 2011
7:56 pm
Well, to brighten everyone’s day, here’s a ray of hope
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-24/u-s-leads-in-nobels-trails-in-alleyway-sex-commentary-by-caroline-baum.html
a good read
jm
February 23rd, 2011
7:57 pm
The U.S. ranks first in airports, tourist receipts and in the number of winners at the Miss Universe Contest.
Just a few thoughts
February 23rd, 2011
7:58 pm
For all of the fools that post here day in and day out – arguing your ridiculous, imbecile points.
When has this country had a REAL Leader? When? You sit back in your fart smelling office chairs, hen pecking out the same asinine responses to each other day after day after day. Trying to blame the other party for everything – it’s just not reality, no matter how much you think it is. When has a either party been real leaders? When is the last time you have ever looked back on an Administration and said – “Wow… now they lead us!”
These politicians have been duping all of us for years and if you think for one moment that your party is clean – you’re sadly mistaken. It’s a broken system. These people do not care about the country – they only care about themselves PERIOD.
Don’t allow yourselves to be dragged around by their leashes – you’ll just look like dogs.
jm
February 23rd, 2011
7:59 pm
“As far as the number of people who have had sex in an alleyway, the U.S. was tied for a lowly 24th with such sexually progressive countries as Sweden and Finland. ”
I think this is because we have fewer alleys than Europe.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
7:59 pm
Scout – here’s to hoping for a more simple minded government coming in 2012.
Simpler, smaller government is better government.
How small and simple can you get for a country with statistics like this:
Population:
310,232,863 (July 2010 est.)
Geographic Area:
total: 9,826,675 sq km
land: 9,161,966 sq km
water: 664,709 sq km
note: includes only the 50 states and District of Columbia
Land Border:
total: 12,034 km
border countries: Canada 8,893 km (including 2,477 km with Alaska), Mexico 3,141 km
Coastline:
19,924 km
*Courtesy of the CIA World Factbook.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
One interesting fact you might like/dislike jm. When it comes to education for the US:
Education expenditures:
5.5% of GDP (2007)
country comparison to the world: 46
Del
February 23rd, 2011
7:59 pm
Normal, I don’t believe you were around when the Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation. Well maybe you’ve sand bagged another sea story that you haven’t shared with us as yet.
TaxPayer
February 23rd, 2011
8:00 pm
Simpler minded than Walker or Gingrey or Broun or Price or… does it have to be multi-celled.
jm
February 23rd, 2011
8:00 pm
The naysayers don’t appreciate American exceptionalism and never will.
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaa
Dudley (United we stand, Divided we beg)
February 23rd, 2011
8:00 pm
Let gay people get married. Then they can be miserable like the rest of us!!!!!!
jm
February 23rd, 2011
8:01 pm
Just a few thoughts
Not a student of history, is he.
jm
February 23rd, 2011
8:03 pm
SoCo 7:59 that education stat was interesting. The only complicated one, with that, as with health care, is it needs to be normalized for demographics. But all things considered, pretty crummy.
For context though, since no one has kids in Europe, you don’t need to spend as much as a % of GDP on ed. Same with 1 child China. And the whole M.E., in contrast, should be spending 30% of GDP.
jm
February 23rd, 2011
8:06 pm
Nervous China puts security apparatus into overdrive
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d4fcf4e6-3f6d-11e0-a1ba-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1EpmAaoAs
Awwwww. The poor chinese…. they have my deepest sympathies…..
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
8:06 pm
SA 03 (or were you ATSAC?)
It seems like that’s what some are gunning for. Personally, I’m not too anxious to see any of the seals broken in my lifetime. One curious question for you. Revelations contains the only description of God. That description describes him of having hair like lamb’s wool and skin of bronze. Why is it that every picture of Jesus has long straight hair? That one’s always puzzled me. If Jesus was King of the Jews, the hair like lamb’s wool would be possible as I’ve met more than a few Jews coming from Israel that would fit that description.
Del
February 23rd, 2011
8:07 pm
jm,
No offense to SoCo, because overall he’s a pretty fair guy but he needs to get off those left wing disinformation blogs. ISFH
jm
February 23rd, 2011
8:08 pm
Please respect FT.com’s ts&cs and copyright policy which allow you to: share links; copy content for personal use; & redistribute limited extracts. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights or use this link to reference the article – http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d4fcf4e6-3f6d-11e0-a1ba-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1EpmZtbd2
Yet in the past few days, after an online call to bring a “Jasmine Revolution” from the Middle East to China began circulating, the system has gone into overdrive. According to human rights groups, more than 100 activists have had their movements restricted since last Friday. Among them, five lawyers, including Mr Teng, have been detained.
jm
February 23rd, 2011
8:10 pm
BTW. CNBC commentator that is some super duper government banking advisor whatever was advising that the banking system needs to do a sensitivity analysis…. not to another housing decline or increase in unemployment… but rather, to a collapse of China.
I’m only half smiling.
jm
February 23rd, 2011
8:11 pm
Del 8:07 – the CIA website?
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
8:12 pm
SoCo
Well, I’d say Jesus was blonde, green-eyed with a teacup b*tt!
Disgusted
February 23rd, 2011
8:15 pm
For what else does the government penalize you for not doing something?
Try not filing any tax returns or reporting all your income on them, jm. Maybe we’ll find out.
Just a few thoughts
February 23rd, 2011
8:15 pm
jm@ 8:01pm – enlighten us with your wealth of knowledge – because basically, you’ve said nothing.
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 23rd, 2011
8:19 pm
I’ve always wondered that maybe when Jesus comes back, he might look different to each of us. Either way, it’s not really important what He looks like, on my opinion.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
8:20 pm
jm
Here’s the list, and it’s kinda scary at first until you look at the countries and imagine what their overall GDP is.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2206rank.html?countryName=United States&countryCode=us®ionCode=na&rank=46#us
Dave R.
February 23rd, 2011
8:20 pm
“Try not filing any tax returns or reporting all your income on them, jm. Maybe we’ll find out.”
Lame, Disgusted, even for you.
Your example is not doing something CORRECTLY.
Del
February 23rd, 2011
8:21 pm
H.D. Amen
Dave R.
February 23rd, 2011
8:21 pm
Oh, and “Just a few thoughts”?
You’re a flaming downer.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
8:22 pm
josef
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 23rd, 2011
8:24 pm
Normal:
“God is not mocked”
The choice …. as always ……. is yours.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
8:24 pm
Del
I’ll take that 8:07 as a compliment, although I’m trying to figure out which disinformation blogs you’re talking about.
Rockerbabe
February 23rd, 2011
8:25 pm
Good, its about time. Congress and those rightwing nutjobs need to stop disrespecting single people and their choice of a spouse. Lord knows, heterosexuals or straight people have made one he!! of a mess of the state of marriage over the centuries. Let’s give someone else the opportunity to find out what it is all about!
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 23rd, 2011
8:25 pm
josef re: your 8:12
Ah ………………. nevermind. It wouldn’t do any good.
AmVet
February 23rd, 2011
8:29 pm
Revelations, now there’s a fun read! (Kinda like reading Bud’s posts!)
heathen at 7:39, I like the way you think…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12kcpP-8jfM
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
8:30 pm
Scout….
Jesus was a Jew. Some of us are blonde, green-eyed and have teacup b*tts…why wouldn’t I opt for that image?
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
8:31 pm
DAVE
Here you come, like always trying to stir up trouble…
Just a few thoughts...
February 23rd, 2011
8:33 pm
Dave R.
February 23rd, 2011
8:21 pm
I’m a flaming downer because I challenge you to think in ways other than the status quo?
Yes, we do have sheep from both sides. You must be in one of those camps no?
Doggone/GA
February 23rd, 2011
8:34 pm
“God is not mocked”
Don’t discount God’s sense of humor. Anyone who has ever seen a wart hog KNOWS he has one.
josef nix
February 23rd, 2011
8:37 pm
Doggone
I’ve always wondered what G-d was thinking when H- made the platypus…
Hootinanny Yum Yum
February 23rd, 2011
8:37 pm
Yo, JB…
When are you going to start hammering and lambasting the protesters in WI? Appears they are of the same demographic as the majority of Tea Party protesters.
Now it appears threats have been made against the WI governor.