Obama abandons defense of federal gay-marriage ban

The Obama administration has announced it will no longer try to defend Section 3 of the federal Defense of Marriage Act from lawsuits alleging the law is unconstitutional. (The law forbids the federal government from recognizing any marriage other than that between a man and a woman.)

The decision is big news, but probably not as big as some have suggested. In real terms, it probably doesn’t change much at all. As Attorney General Eric Holder noted in the announcement:

“Section 3 of DOMA will continue to remain in effect unless Congress repeals it or there is a final judicial finding that strikes it down, and the President has informed me that the Executive Branch will continue to enforce the law. But while both the wisdom and the legality of Section 3 of DOMA will continue to be the subject of both extensive litigation and public debate, this Administration will no longer assert its constitutionality in court.”

In other words, it’s still law, and despite concerns about constitutionality, the Obama administration will still honor it. Other parties, including members of Congress, are also still free to defend the law from constitutional challenges already underway in several federal court jurisdictions.

One of the constitutional issues at stake involves states rights. Marriage has always been regulated and defined by the states; the federal government, for example, does not issue marriage licenses, and nothing in the Constitution gives it the power to do so. The entire area of family law — marriage, divorce, child custody, etc., — has been a state responsibility.

Last year, a federal judge in Massachusetts — a Nixon appointee — ruled the law unconstitutional on just those grounds, citing the Tenth Amendment:

It is a fundamental principle underlying our federalist system of government that “[e]very law enacted by Congress must be based on one or more of its powers enumerated in the Constitution.” And, correspondingly, the Tenth Amendment provides that “[t]he powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” The division between state and federal powers delineated by the Constitution is not merely “formalistic.” Rather, the Tenth Amendment “leaves to the several States a residuary and inviolable sovereignty.” This reflects a founding principle of governance in this country, that “[s]tates are not mere political subdivision of the United States,” but rather sovereigns unto themselves.”

Despite their professed reverence for the Tenth Amendment — U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, you might recall, said “the very future of freedom and limited government depends (on it)” — I doubt many conservatives will find the judge’s logic convincing.

– Jay Bookman

476 comments Add your comment

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
2:30 pm

Thanks Obama for doing 2 years later what you should have done on 1.21.2009.

Guy Incognito

February 23rd, 2011
2:32 pm

Hmmmm, how’s that going to play in the black churches, whose members are much more homophobic than the population in general?????

Tom Middleton

February 23rd, 2011
2:32 pm

It ain’t freedom unless people are actually free. Thank you, Mr. President. We’re getting there!

Granny Godzilla

February 23rd, 2011
2:34 pm

Such good news…..

Doggone/GA

February 23rd, 2011
2:37 pm

It’s a start. The REAL good news will be when the law is struck down or repealed

Port O'John

February 23rd, 2011
2:40 pm

Nobody is more homophobic than conservative, white, southern baptists. When it comes to hating gays, the Georgia GOP does not come in second place.

Granny Godzilla

February 23rd, 2011
2:43 pm

Speaker of the House John Boehner has released a statement concering this.

(Get the screen cleaner ready)

“While Americans want Washington to focus on creating jobs and cutting spending, the President will have to explain why he thinks now is the appropriate time to stir up a controversial issue that sharply divides the nation.”

jm

February 23rd, 2011
2:44 pm

Where’s that wonderful “commerce clause”….. :)

I’m all for states rights. I have no idea how one deals with the issue of marriages announced in one state being honored in another state where they are illegal…. that’ll be a head scratcher.

What does a gay couple do when they move to another state where their marriage isn’t recognized?

jm

February 23rd, 2011
2:46 pm

“The REAL good news will be when the law is struck down or repealed”

I’m all for “let’s throw out all laws that fall under the commerce clause”. Wait a sec…. there goes Obamacare.

Jay

February 23rd, 2011
2:46 pm

The funny thing is, Scout now has his example of what the Tenth Amendment outlaws….

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
2:47 pm

“Obama abandons defense of federal gay-marriage ban”

Wow, now there’s a real shock, huh. :roll:

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
2:47 pm

It’s kind of amazing gays can’t obtain equal rights considering how powerful we are: http://www.christchurchquake.net/html/articlesList.html

jm

February 23rd, 2011
2:49 pm

“What does a gay couple do when they move to another state where their marriage isn’t recognized?”

I’m all for federalism, but people need to realize the shortcomings. I don’t think people will be passing laws in favor of gay marriage anytime soon in red states. Meaning, gay folks will be “free to move about the country” without issue, in Blue States…. a bit of a mess, but that’s federalism.

Ok, good. So now gays can get married where its legal (when the law is finally declared unconstitutional). I look forward to seeing Jay celebrate when Obamacare is repealed.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
2:50 pm

No matter how you lean politically, this headline is hilarious…

“400-pound woman attacks roommate — for eating her cookies…”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/02/22/2011-02-22_florida_woman_busted_for_assaulting_roommate_over_girl_scout_cookies.html

jm

February 23rd, 2011
2:51 pm

jc 2:47 – your comment was funny. the articles, not so much.

jm

February 23rd, 2011
2:52 pm

Leg Lamp – my dog ate 2 boxes of girl scout cookies last week. My wife was p-ssed, seriously. I was nervous. I put him in the back yard after telling him I’d do my best to get my wife a valium, but until then, hide out in the woods.

Blog God

February 23rd, 2011
2:53 pm

Wow, jewcowboy, whatever you say….from now on….I’m on your side…..

Midori

February 23rd, 2011
2:54 pm

JCB – I didn’t know you were gay.

I knew there was something about you!!! :)

Midori

February 23rd, 2011
2:54 pm

Leg Lamp – is Rush still mad at her?

arnold

February 23rd, 2011
2:54 pm

Don’t worry. Georgia will fight to the end to ban gay marriage. Then the banners can follow the Libya nut case into martydom. :-)

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
2:55 pm

jm,

“the articles, not so much.”

It makes one wonder who would put so much money and time behind their whackjob ideas…

jm

February 23rd, 2011
2:55 pm

midori – cowboy is one word. This is a JCB

http://www.jcbna.com/products/2-construction/

Aquagirl

February 23rd, 2011
2:56 pm

Thanks for the link jewcowboy, I never realized there was a sub-species of Swamp Lesbians. Highly informative.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
2:56 pm

Port O’John
February 23rd, 2011
2:40 pm

And no one is more prone to hate speech than those Wisc union members who basically shut down school, paraded around with illegal doctor’s excuses, and held signs comparing the situation to:

Hitler

Mussolini

Mubarek

Rape

Death

Fascism

WTF

Glad to know their cause was “for the children” and not themselves. :roll:

jm

February 23rd, 2011
2:58 pm

jewcowboy – money and time….. lot’s of people with that. Or else why would EPI issue a multi-page bogus research report crafted by a bunch of the heads of labor unions?

BTW, Jay, willing to admit the EPI report is so biased as to not be credible due to the source?

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
2:58 pm

Midori
February 23rd, 2011
2:54 pm

????????

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
2:58 pm

Midori,

“I didn’t know you were gay.”

And evidently all powerful…least in geological aspects…

Bosch

February 23rd, 2011
2:58 pm

Despite their professed reverence for the Tenth Amendment — U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, you might recall, said “the very future of freedom and limited government depends (on it)” — I doubt many conservatives will find the judge’s logic convincing.

Because like all things wingnuts, they lalalalalala love the Constitution, until it gets in the way of their hypocrisy.

jm

February 23rd, 2011
2:59 pm

Leg Lamp – don’t forget comparing Walker to “Darth Vader”. Even though he brought balance to the force…. obviously they don’t have their star wars facts straight. Crike.

Jay

February 23rd, 2011
2:59 pm

jm, the Constitution requires those marriages be recognized.

“The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.”

The courts haven’t had to confront that one yet, but once they do I think there’s only one way they can go.

arnold

February 23rd, 2011
3:00 pm

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”…..

February 23rd, 2011
2:56 pm

Why aren’t the police, firefighters, etc also not in the crosshairs of the Wisc. Governor? Is it because they supported his election?

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
3:00 pm

Bosch
February 23rd, 2011
2:58 pm

Were you impressed with the FL judges logic that Obamacare is unconstitutional? People in glass trailers…….

Doggone/GA

February 23rd, 2011
3:01 pm

Jay – there’s also this:
Section 1 – Each State to Honor all others

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof

jm

February 23rd, 2011
3:01 pm

Bosch 2:58 whatever.

Hey, question. If 2 people get married across state lines, is that commerce? Just curious…. the 9 should have a field day with this question.

USMC dawg

February 23rd, 2011
3:01 pm

“Obama abandons defense of federal gay-marriage ban”

So Obama was against it BEFORE he was FOR it…
Haven’t we heard this somewhere before?

Just in time for his 2012 election campaign… How convenient!

Marriage: The union between a man and a woman.

What is wrong with “Civil Unions”?

Jay

February 23rd, 2011
3:01 pm

that too, Doggone.

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
3:02 pm

jm,

“This is a JCB”

Well…I used to resemble that backhoe in my early years…but that is another story,

jm

February 23rd, 2011
3:03 pm

Jay 2:59 – guess it comes down to the constitutionality of the law then. well, lot’s of fun stuff before the SCOTUS soon enough. Obamacare, gay marriage, (and I’m sure a host of low profile but important items). Lively….

Chuck Anziulewicz

February 23rd, 2011
3:03 pm

WELL IT’S ABOUT TIME! The Obama Administration obviously dropped its defense of DOMA, because from a Constitutional standpoint there is no defense! DOMA sets up differing legal standards for Gay and Straight couples. Because of DOMA, even Gay couples who are legally married in Iowa or Massachusetts are unrecognized by the federal government for the purposes of tax law and Social Security; obviously this violates the 14th Amendment. Also, such couples become “UN-married” if they move across state lines, so DOMA violates the “Full Faith & Credit” clause. Thank goodness DOMA’s days are finally numbered!

jm

February 23rd, 2011
3:03 pm

Doggone 3:01 – good one. handy dandy.

JohnnyReb

February 23rd, 2011
3:04 pm

I changed my mind before it was repealed to support doing away with DADT. My jury is still out on gay marriage. I would have preferred this latest arrogance from Obama be over something other than gay marriage. With that stated, Obama does not have the authority to declare portions of law unconstitutional. That decision is for the court system.

Nice Guy

February 23rd, 2011
3:04 pm

“that too, Doggone.”

That screaming you hear is Doggone running around her office parking lot screaming in elation that Jay recognized her.

jm

February 23rd, 2011
3:05 pm

jewcowboy 3:02 – JCB’s, made in Savannah….

Bosch

February 23rd, 2011
3:05 pm

Off topic, but from the AJC:

Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels, who had urged GOP legislators not to act on the right-to-work bill this year

….because I’m gonna run for President and don’t want to piss off a bunch of people….

thomas

February 23rd, 2011
3:06 pm

Enter your comments here

Midori

February 23rd, 2011
3:06 pm

Koch “She’s a real piece of a$$”, Walker “oh Yeah”, Koch: “I’ll…show you a good time”

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2011/02/great-white-hope-gets-rope-a-doped.html

stands for decibels

February 23rd, 2011
3:06 pm

JCB, so I take that to mean that New Zealand counts among its residents at least one boneheaded homophobe?

ya learn something new every day.

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The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
3:07 pm

GALLUP: DC, Hawaii Still Most Approving of Obama; All States Decline…

2012 Ad Blitz for Obama Planned…

Army of community organizers to carry ‘movement forward for years to come’…

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
3:07 pm

USMC dawg,

“What is wrong with “Civil Unions”?”

Will you civilly unite with me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47cJSou-6JQ

http://www.huliq.com/10304/hawaii-approves-bill-legalizing-civil-unions

Bosch

February 23rd, 2011
3:08 pm

No thomas, I won’t. I only enter my comments in the box.

Doggone/GA

February 23rd, 2011
3:08 pm

“With that stated, Obama does not have the authority to declare portions of law unconstitutional. That decision is for the court system”

You can rest easy. He didn’t. He just said they will stop trying to prove it IS constitutional. Not the same thing.

jm

February 23rd, 2011
3:08 pm

Well, Obama gets an F for “fixing” Guantanamo, rendition, improving the business climate, climate change legislation, responsible budgeting, etc etc.

But he should be getting good grades for new regulations, more spending, and gay rights in this country (even if it is slow).

thomas

February 23rd, 2011
3:08 pm

I bet this is making divorce lawyers everywhere happy.

Opening up an entire new client base.

More money for the divorce lawyers.

Midori

February 23rd, 2011
3:08 pm

why did you eat Rush’s cookies, Lamp?

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
3:10 pm

Bosch
February 23rd, 2011
3:05 pm

Sort of like Team Obama moving to full election mode:

* Will no longer back DOMA

* Automatically backs the Wisc unions when one of the main points of the Governor’s plan is to have the individuals fund more of their cadillac plans. The type of plans Obamacare will heavily tax.

and he’s just getting started with the pandering.

stands for decibels

February 23rd, 2011
3:10 pm

why did you eat Rush’s cookies

is that what the kids are calling it these days?

Midori

February 23rd, 2011
3:10 pm

jm – just guessing — the “f” is from you, right?

you’re a gnat in his world.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
3:10 pm

Midori
February 23rd, 2011
3:08 pm

I have no idea to what you’re referring. Too much chili, perhaps?

Bosch

February 23rd, 2011
3:10 pm

stands,

Ewwwww….

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

February 23rd, 2011
3:10 pm

From downstairs:

Joe The Plumber Too

February 23rd, 2011
2:22 pm
Wow, what a shocker!!!!!!!!!!! obozo has instucted holder to not obey and honor Federal Law again. He can sit in the Oval Office and decide what is Constitutional and what isn’t, what a joke, who needs the SCOTUS when we have such a scholar as little barry.

I wonder how that crow will taste. All that blasting about him telling Holder not to obey and honor law shows how ignorant and disconnected people can appear when they do not read the entire story. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!! And then they attack those who educate… LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Midori

February 23rd, 2011
3:11 pm

LOL – Hi Stands.

You’ve been hanging around RW or something? :lol:

stands for decibels

February 23rd, 2011
3:11 pm

jm – just guessing — the “f” is from you, right?

we should keep Gitmo open so we’ll have a place to put the concern trolls.

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
3:11 pm

thomas,

“More money for the divorce lawyers.”

As well as for state and federal coffers…

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/studies-gay-marriage-boosts-state-budgets

Midori

February 23rd, 2011
3:12 pm

Unfortunately, Lamp – I can’t eat chili any more.

Stay current, will you?

I’m now into hummus.

Bosch

February 23rd, 2011
3:12 pm

Nice Guy

February 23rd, 2011
3:13 pm

Midori – “I can’t eat chili any more.”

Yikes!

Granny Godzilla

February 23rd, 2011
3:13 pm

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
3:14 pm

Midori
February 23rd, 2011
3:12 pm

Gorging ones self on a particular delight does have its drawbacks.

stands for decibels

February 23rd, 2011
3:14 pm

Midori – “I can’t eat chili any more.”

Yikes!

yeah, that’d be up there with losing a job or getting burglarized, for me.

.

.

(ok, I exaggerate by as much as 12 percent.)

Peadawg

February 23rd, 2011
3:14 pm

“What is wrong with “Civil Unions”?” – I’m wondering the same thing if they have the EXACT same privileges as marriage.

thomas

February 23rd, 2011
3:14 pm

Bosch

February 23rd, 2011
3:08 pm

Did I or it seriously demand your comments again.

Either the blog god or myself is in serious need of an etiquette class or atleast some common southern decency!

Midori

February 23rd, 2011
3:15 pm

Hi Boschie :)

Hi Granny :)

stands for decibels

February 23rd, 2011
3:16 pm

I’m wondering the same thing if they have the EXACT same privileges as marriage.

We’ve been through this before. There’s a whole lotta state/local code out there referring to marriage, spouses, etc., that’d have to be fixed.

While a part of me figures, why not just make all legal marriages “civil unions,” I think it’d be a lot simpler to just acknowledge that same-sexers make lifelong commitments that should be recognized as such.

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
3:18 pm

Peadawg,

“I’m wondering the same thing if they have the EXACT same privileges as marriage.”

I guess you’ve never heard that separate is not equal. The act of creating separate “civil unions” is a way to create an uneq

Bosch

February 23rd, 2011
3:18 pm

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
3:18 pm

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
3:10 pm

“I wonder how that crow will taste.”

While you’re “LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL” why not ask Obama how the “closing Gitmo” and “getting rid of the Bush tax cuts for the rich” crow tastes.

Bosch

February 23rd, 2011
3:19 pm

um, jewcowboy, methinks Blog God needed a snack and ate your post.

Moderate Line

February 23rd, 2011
3:19 pm

Despite their professed reverence for the Tenth Amendment — U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, you might recall, said “the very future of freedom and limited government depends (on it)” — I doubt many conservatives will find the judge’s logic convincing.
++++
Now the left is the great defender of the 10th amendment. Both sides are rather hypocritical. The Feds can’t pass a law defining marriage but they can pass a law forcing people to buy health care.

From my perspective neither side has any principles. Both will use whatever means necessary to win in order to gain the support of those who vote for them and/or provide them money.

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
3:19 pm

Peadawg,

I hit enter by mistake..apologies:

“I’m wondering the same thing if they have the EXACT same privileges as marriage.”

I guess you’ve never heard that separate is not equal. The act of creating separate “civil unions” is a way to create an unequal institution that still sends the message that those who have civil unions are NOT the same.

If they give the same rights why not call them the same thing?

Adam

February 23rd, 2011
3:20 pm

Let’s get a couple of things straight:

The ACA will not be repealed.

The ACA’s Constitutional challenges will go to the Supreme Court, where it will be found to be Constitutional.

The WI protests will continue until the governor and Senate members agree to allow collective bargaining rights to remain. This will happen even if you fire them all (remember, if they’re fired, they have no reason NOT to set up camp and stay there).

Any outcomes that are the direct opposite of what I have laid out above are nothing more than far right wing wishful thinking.

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
3:20 pm

Bosch,

“methinks Blog God needed a snack and ate your post.”

Nah…its my new “ergonomic” keyboard…that freaking sucks.

FlexSF

February 23rd, 2011
3:21 pm

Finally, we have a progressive president. Its time to annihilate the sexist, bigoted policies, of the Republican party. Thanks for nothing, you ridiculous fools. Suck on your bibles and choke.

UofMTigerFan

February 23rd, 2011
3:21 pm

Jay & Doggone/GA: So by your reasoning, my concealed carry permit is now valid in New Jersey, New York, Chicago, etc.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
3:21 pm

Adam
February 23rd, 2011
3:20 pm

What prognosticating skills you possess. Can you give me the 6 winning numbers for tonight’s Powerball?

thomas

February 23rd, 2011
3:21 pm

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
3:11 pm

Thats all speculation. But if it does hooray for all.

But I can promise the lawyers will be getting richer.

1 thing about us humans………..

as a general rule, not the only rule, we tend to not be content with only 1 or the same sexual partner….. seems to go against our instincts or desires. Regardless of if we choose to be gay, straight, bi, or whatever it is that gets our “private parts” a twitchin. We all seem to like variety and a lot of it.

Peadawg

February 23rd, 2011
3:21 pm

“I hit enter by mistake..apologies:” – LOL I was wondering about that. Chomp Chomp Bosch!

“If they give the same rights why not call them the same thing?” – Because they aren’t the same thing. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

jm

February 23rd, 2011
3:23 pm

“He just said they will stop trying to prove it IS constitutional. ” Well, I hope he stops trying to enforce Obamacare also….

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
3:24 pm

FlexSF
February 23rd, 2011
3:21 pm

Yes, those eloquent, even-tempered “progressives” who wave banners in Wisc with:

Hitler

Mussolini

Mubarek

Rape

Death

Fascism

WTF

And they flaunt the fake doctor passes to boot. What role models the children can emulate.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

February 23rd, 2011
3:25 pm

While you’re “LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL” why not ask Obama how the “closing Gitmo” and “getting rid of the Bush tax cuts for the rich” crow tastes.

Ummmmm……. IF you remember, he signed an order to close Gitmo, but GOPer’s got the NIMBY fear and refused to fund the order. Imagine that, a bunch of red-blooded, gun-loving, freedom-praising Republicans afraid of 5′6″ 120lbs (with soaking wet jeans) Afghanis, many of whom can’t even read. As for the “Bush tax cuts for the rich”, I thought the latest memo was that they were now the Obama tax cuts since they were extended? Anyways, they’re on a 2-yr extension, so that crow’s dish isn’t ready yet.

Yet I notice, you didn’t attempt to defend you boy’s foolishness from downstairs? What gives?

JohnnyReb

February 23rd, 2011
3:25 pm

Doggone – Obama took the oath to uphold the law. Not pick and chose to satisfy his political supporters. If he believes that portion of the law unconstitutional, his admininstration should bring a law suit challenging. If he was anything close to Presidential, he would not be trying to make his case in the court of public opinion.

Jay

February 23rd, 2011
3:26 pm

The federal government can’t sue itself, JohnnyReb.

Adam

February 23rd, 2011
3:26 pm

jm: Me too. I sure hope I get cut from my health care plan once I get sick! After all, it’s unAmerican to tell insurance companies that they have to honor their agreement.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....

February 23rd, 2011
3:27 pm

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 23rd, 2011
3:25 pm

Riiiiight. The GOP, who was the minority party at the time, stopped the closing of Gitmo. Gee, how convenient it is for you to make excuses.

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
3:27 pm

thomas,

“But I can promise the lawyers will be getting richer.”

I’m guessing you don’t know what is involved as a gay couple to obtain some of the rights heterosexual couple obtain with a $50 marriage certificate. mr. nonjewcowboy and myself spent, conservatively, $20k on legal fees to “marry.” Things like financial powers of attorney, health care proxies, living wills and revocable living trusts.

My guess is it would be a wash for attorneys.

jm

February 23rd, 2011
3:27 pm

Midori 3:10 – we all are, fellow gnat.

Jay

February 23rd, 2011
3:27 pm

And TigerFan, that’s an interesting question. Drivers licenses certainly are.

JohnnyReb

February 23rd, 2011
3:28 pm

So, Jay, you are stating there has never been an adminstration taking court action to overturn a law or portions thereof?

Doggone/GA

February 23rd, 2011
3:28 pm

““What is wrong with “Civil Unions”?” – I’m wondering the same thing if they have the EXACT same privileges as marriage”

Because changing non-religious marriages to “civil unions” would require changing the wording of all laws pertaining to marriage in all states. It’s easier to just change the definition of marriage, then nothing needs to be changed in the existing laws…except those that limt marriage to a mand and a woman – which shouldn’t exist anyway.

jewcowboy

February 23rd, 2011
3:28 pm

Peadawg,

“Marriage is between a man and a woman.”

Not in 5 states and the District of Columbia…