A powerful new poll pulls back the curtain on fear, frustration
In a post last week about the future of the Democratic Party in the South, I warned that those Democrats who advocate giving up on the South in effect advocate giving up on white working-class voters, which would have implications well beyond Dixie.
A new poll on attitudes about the economy, published in The Washington Post, provides a lot more fodder for that discussion. It found that white Americans are considerably more pessimistic about the nation’s economic future, considerably more frustrated and, not surprisingly, considerably less supportive of Obama and the Democrats. Those attitudes were particularly prevalent among white Americans with less than a college education.
As the Post writers describe it:
A mere 10 percent of whites without college degrees say they are satisfied with the nation’s current economic situation. Most – 56 percent – say the country’s best days are in the past, and more, 61 percent, say it will be a long time before the economy begins to recover.
Fully 43 percent of non-college whites say “hard work and determination are no guarantees of success,” and nearly half doubt that they have enough education and skills to compete in the job market.
The Post didn’t release data breaking down responses between college-educated and non-college white Americans, but the demographic data it did release was fascinating nonetheless. Take a look at the difference in economic optimism:
The loss of faith in important institutions such as government and Wall Street was also considerably stronger among white Americans than among their fellow Americans.
However, perhaps the starkest divisions came when pollsters asked Americans whether they thought the government was doing too much, too little, or the right amount to help a series of groups, from their own families to Wall Street. White Americans were far more willing than black and Hispanic Americans to say the government wasn’t doing enough to help them, and was doing too much to help the wealthy and Wall Street.
I think those numbers help to illuminate a whole range of political phenomena, from the labor standoff in Wisconsin to the Tea Party movement to last fall’s midterms. Even though statistics demonstrate that black and Hispanic Americans are getting hit hardest in this recession in terms of jobs and income lost, it is white Americans who feel most vulnerable, most frustrated, most pessimistic and most in need of a government looking out for their interests.
– Jay Bookman
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Paul
February 22nd, 2011
11:23 am
MPercy
“which thanks to a capital gains tax loophole protected by the Republican party t”
Last time that came up for revision (tax as earned income, not cap gains) it was DEMOCRATS in the Senate that killed it.
Stereotypes die hard.
Then get resurrected.
Harry Callahan
February 22nd, 2011
11:24 am
“yes, that WOULD be important if it happened. It didn’t”
So you personally witnessed the Black Panthers incident?
Dave R.
February 22nd, 2011
11:25 am
“Picking a couple words out of an amendment, without considering the modifiers in the other parts or the historical context or other decisions is rather like picking out “free” in “free speech” and saying everything one wants should be free.”
Jay, please focus on Paul’s comments above before writing your next cut and paste job . . .
Paul
February 22nd, 2011
11:25 am
@@
g’night, @@
“I’m smokin’ a pork butt!”
you’ve piqued getalife’s interest….
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
11:26 am
“come up with a “cutesy” response like you do”
@@ … DEAR … is diddums having a bad day???
barking frog
February 22nd, 2011
11:29 am
Paul, strange that the constitution left out ‘in your home’.
surely they had homes for their arms but those without
homes could not keep and bear arms unless you really
stretch the definition of ‘home’.
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
11:29 am
smoking a pork butt? would hate to see the rolling paper for THAT …
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:29 am
“What nonsense”
I see…you appear to disagree with the Consitution: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State”
Left wing management
February 22nd, 2011
11:30 am
MPercy: “Well, I think it’s a damn shame that the Federal government is involved in paying teachers at all, so my opinion on this question would be completely skewed by the phrasing no matter what my opinion of the tax “loophole” might be.”
Well, guess that’s the difference between you and me.
I’m interested in getting my grubby little socialist hands on the hedge fund managers’ earnings so I can return it to the teachers and other citizens it was redistributed from. And since I know that the Koch brothers and propagandists like the ghoul with the toupee who writes for the Washington Post are working against me, I might just have to work a little bit harder than them in my calm and patient (and sometimes not so calm and patient) efforts to stir up some more militancy in the populace about these issues. But seeing little girls and their mothers skipping school and chanting against the governor in the Wisconsin capitol gives me real cause for hope, and warms my cold grubby socialist heart.
Paul
February 22nd, 2011
11:32 am
barking frog
Constitution wasn’t written to cover every foreseeable condition. It’s like free speech doesn’t give a person the right to yell ‘fire’ in a crowded theater. It also left open the possibility for future changes. In the Court’s case, however, it’s a matter of interpretation.
Both sides say they interpret correctly. Even the minority opinion side.
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
11:32 am
So you personally witnessed the Black Panthers incident?
remember, everyone–this incident was a Very Important Historical Event.
(among stupid white guys who troll the Intertubes.)
Dave R.
February 22nd, 2011
11:32 am
Does one inhale when smoking a pork butt?
Dave R.
February 22nd, 2011
11:33 am
“And since I know that the Koch brothers and propagandists like the ghoul with the toupee who writes for the Washington Post are working against me,”
There’s your sign . . .
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
11:34 am
Does one inhale when smoking a pork butt?
no, and I didn’t enjoy it…
MPercy
February 22nd, 2011
11:35 am
Paul @11:23 am MPercy “which thanks to a capital gains tax loophole protected by the Republican party t”
Oops. I failed to note that I was quoting Left Wing Mgt @10:52. The first para there belongs to LWM. The 2nd is my response.
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
11:35 am
LWM, fine rant, but who is the WaPo “ghoul with the toupee” of whom you speak?
because I may need to steal that, is why I ask.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 22nd, 2011
11:36 am
MPercy
I saw that episode of Undercover Boss. That guy’s attitude was quite infectious too….
larry
February 22nd, 2011
11:36 am
Dont you have to have a pretty big mouth to smoke a pork butt?
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:37 am
“So you personally witnessed the Black Panthers incident?”
You didn’t see me there?
Paul
February 22nd, 2011
11:37 am
MPercy
Thanks.
Left Wing Management – that one was for you!
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
11:37 am
Dont you have to have a pretty big mouth to smoke a pork butt?
nope, just a purty one.
Nice Guy
February 22nd, 2011
11:38 am
Doggone – ” see…you appear to disagree with the Consitution: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State””
Again, nonsense. I never mentioned the Constitution. I see basic reading skills isn’t your strong suit. That’s ok.
Anyone who is in good legal standing should be afforded the right to bear arms. Should proper training be put in place prior to a gun purchase? Perhaps. But a meeting attending member of the militia or else your license is lost? Pul-leeze.
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:38 am
“Dont you have to have a pretty big mouth to smoke a pork butt?”
Not if you roll it right
larry
February 22nd, 2011
11:39 am
Are you sure it was the Black Panthers, not the Carolina Panthers? Or the Union County Panthers? or the Florida Panthers?
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:40 am
“But a meeting attending member of the militia or else your license is lost? Pul-leeze”
Well, that’s what the Consitution SAYS…so enforce it. We need a well-regulated Militia, so we have the right to bear arms. Then live up to that responsibility and make gun owners be IN that Militia. Simple.
Dave R.
February 22nd, 2011
11:41 am
You know, I get the conundrum of the whole “well regulated militia” thing, and it has always given me cause to question the addition of those words to the 2nd amendment. That being said, given the times (that being a recent war to separate themselves from a tyrannical government through the use of, among other things, militia) I can see why the words were added in.
To use them as a reason for not allowing citizens to own guns is simply convenient for those who do not believe in the practice of individual responsibility and freedom to the same extent as others do. As such, we should never try to dismiss the desire (or right) for individuals to own protection against the excesses of other individuals, or the state.
joe
February 22nd, 2011
11:41 am
no, its that factg that non-college educated white americans have finally waken up to the fact that government cannot be relied on for their own salvation. The only ones who are concerned with your well being are the people who made possible your birth, the person (or persons) you lay with at the end of the day, or those who’s births you made possible. Anyone else who says they have your best interests at heart are full of malarkey. Self-reliance-people, seek it now, or face the consequences later.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 22nd, 2011
11:41 am
Maybe white voters with no college education would prefer not to pay $5 per gallon to fuel their cars, and therefore would like to see domestic oil drilling opened up and see stupid ethanol subsidies thrown out.
Maybe white voters with no college education would be completely wrong in thinking that domestic oil drilled here would be guaranteed to stay within our borders and would even have an effect on our supply anytime within the next 5-10 years. But, then again, they don’t have a college education, so they would have to rely on what they heard from so-called “experts”.
“Chris Hedges predicted there would be an ironic right-wing reaction to the right-wing spending policies that put us here in the first place.”
Oh, my freakin’ supernatural deity !
Dave, you’re getting the hang of it!!!!!!!!
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
11:41 am
Doggone – or a pipe with a bowl the size of a crock pot
barking frog
February 22nd, 2011
11:41 am
Paul, you can’t fire a gun in a crowded theater either, even if
all parties agree with the Court’s ruling. In your own home you
can keep and bear arms is meaningless when it can be
changed at government whim and the 2nd amendment is
also meaningless with that ruling. Better that it be a restriction
on the federal government to be unable to bar state militias.
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:42 am
“Doggone – or a pipe with a bowl the size of a crock pot”
that’ll work!
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 22nd, 2011
11:42 am
smoking a pork butt? would hate to see the rolling paper for THAT …
http://www.shootbank.net/photos/1756.medium.jpg
Hootinanny Yum Yum
February 22nd, 2011
11:43 am
Jay writes, “54 percent of white Americans say government is doing too LITTLE to help…”
Does the poll define “help”? Do all demographics define government “help” the same way?
Polls are pretty much useless. Like most surveys and statistics, they can be manipulated to advocate almost any viewpoint.
Dave R.
February 22nd, 2011
11:44 am
“Doggone – or a pipe with a bowl the size of a crock pot”
Ohhhh, the visual on that!
Nice Guy
February 22nd, 2011
11:44 am
Doggone – “We need a well-regulated Militia, so we have the right to bear arms. Then live up to that responsibility and make gun owners be IN that Militia. Simple.”
Your arrogance and ignorance often fight each other on this blog. This post is a case in point.
It isn’t simple and not everyone is cut out to be in the militia. To force someone to enroll could do more harm than good.
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:44 am
“they can be manipulated to advocate almost any viewpoint.”
And so can any viewpoint without polls. At the very least, if you have a poll, you can point to others that agree with you.
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:45 am
“It isn’t simple and not everyone is cut out to be in the militia. To force someone to enroll could do more harm than good”
and not everyone in a militia has to march in the front lines. There are maintenance jobs, desk jobs, other support jobs. I didn’t say they had to be fighting fit…just that they would have to be IN the militia.
Uneducated white people
February 22nd, 2011
11:46 am
The real reason white people without college educations are pessimistic is because no one stands up for them. There are no affirmative action programs to guarantee them jobs and their lower educational status means they automatically lose out to better educated people on the one end and then when they have to compete with minorities of the same education level they automatically lose out on those jobs due to racial discrimination- uh, I mean racial preferences.
Lesser educated minorities have Jesse Jackson and other professional race hustlers working on their behalf plus affirmative action. Who speaks for the lesser educated whites? Exactly. No one.
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
11:46 am
I really should comment directly on-topic here but so little of what’s to be mined from this WaPo poll comes as any surprise to me, that it’s hard to think of much.
I guess the silver lining is that African Americans (and to a somewhat lesser extent hispanics), apparently, feel there’s good reason reason to be optimistic about the future of this nation and of their own prosperity.
Also, interesting to see that there’s virtually no difference between white and black on Question 42, that is, a majority feel that you can get ahead if you work hard, regardless of race.
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:47 am
“Who speaks for the lesser educated whites? Exactly. No one.”
Why do you think unions were invented?
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 22nd, 2011
11:47 am
Ohhhh, the visual on that!
Thinking of something like this:
http://www.ku74.net/uberbong/bong_smoke.jpg
or this:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/huge%20bong/nitr3/funnypicfarm/weed/fpfweed22.jpg
Dave R.
February 22nd, 2011
11:48 am
Off, now, to lunch.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 22nd, 2011
11:48 am
USinUK:
Why thank you ma’am ! Maybe there’s hope …………… ;o
Would you also agree with my 11:01 ??
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
11:49 am
You know, I get the conundrum of the whole “well regulated militia” thing, and it has always given me cause to question the addition of those words to the 2nd amendment. That being said, given the times (that being a recent war to separate themselves from a tyrannical government through the use of, among other things, militia) I can see why the words were added in.
I believe those words are there not so much because of that “tyrannical government” that had been overthrown, but because there was a raging argument at the time, as to whether the Feds were going to have a standing army at all, or if defense was going to be done at a more local level.
I’ve always seen those words as a kind of kicking the can down the road, really, on that issue, and they left us with something of a mess to clean up.
Left wing management
February 22nd, 2011
11:50 am
Who’s the ghoul with the toupee ?
Well, he’s part of the propaganda machine that’s white-washing the outrages I described above and that wants the American people to see the budget woes as a zero sum game where everybody has to accept cutbacks, instead of looking at how Wall Street financiers are raping the country.
How John Birch Society Extremism Never Dies: The Fortune Behind Scott Walker’s Union-Busting Campaign
Today, the Bradley Foundation is controlled by a group of establishment Republicans, along with Washington Post columnist George Will. However, the Foundation’s agenda still reflects the extremist views of its founder, Harry Bradley. Although he passed away in 1965, Harry, a member of one Wisconsin’s most powerful families and a key financier of nationalist hate groups, would have eagerly applauded Walker’s union-busting agenda.
http://thinkprogress.org/?p=145492
ronald
February 22nd, 2011
11:51 am
stands for decibals says “remember, everyone–this (Panthers Case) incident was a Very Important Historical Event.”
I never said it was an important historical event. In fact, I’ll say that it wasn’t. The lack of response to the event by the federal gov’t, however, was important. It set the tone for how Holder’s Justice Dept. viewed white’s complaints about racially-driven events. You can’t be tone deaf to a portion of the population and still pretend to represent everyone. The event will continue to be important until an appropriate response is taken by the Justice Dept.
BADA BING
February 22nd, 2011
11:52 am
0311…..did you see where obama is not invited to the Royal Wedding, but kanye is? Is kanye going to interrupt Kate during her vows and say that Beyonce had the best wedding….EVER?
George W
February 22nd, 2011
11:52 am
Doggone….who speaks for the blacks? Jesse Jacksona and Al Sharpton. I think I would rather speak on my own.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 22nd, 2011
11:52 am
dB
When you look at the history of Blacks in America, you can’t be too surprised by that optimism. There are exceptions to the norm, but you’re referring to a group that served their country honorably, even when they couldn’t sit in the front of a bus or eat at a lunch counter. Then there’s the group that invented things or improved things that made life easier for everyone even if they didn’t initially get the credit or praise for doing so.
Nothing in that poll surprised me at all.
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
11:53 am
just walked by the teevee in our breakroom – the BBC had coverage of Qadaffi giving his “no, I haven’t left the country” speech … he was wearing brown in front of a weird brown background …
he looked like he was dressed up as an Ent.
barking frog
February 22nd, 2011
11:53 am
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
11:49 am
———————————————————–
the entire constitution was a kick the can down the road thing
and that’s why they left it open ended through the amendment
process…..
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:54 am
“The lack of response to the event by the federal gov’t, however, was important.”
Except there WAS a response…you just don’t like the response. That doesen’t mean you are right though.
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
11:55 am
03 – re: your 11:01 – sorry, but I believe in the rule of law – try then and bring them to justice.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
February 22nd, 2011
11:55 am
ghoul with the toupee = George Will…
Doggone….who speaks for the blacks? Jesse Jacksona and Al Sharpton. I think I would rather speak on my own.
Nah homiem, they speak for themselves or anyone who wants them to speak on their behalf. There is no such title as Speaker for the Black People anywhere. There is no vote, appointment, or campaign for that………
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:56 am
“I think I would rather speak on my own”
Who’s stopping you?
Nice Guy
February 22nd, 2011
11:56 am
Doggone – “There are maintenance jobs, desk jobs, other support jobs. I didn’t say they had to be fighting fit”
Again, you’re missing the point. I never said anything about fighting, you have once again put words in my mouth. No matter what your job is in the military, the strucutre and regiment is still there. Some people don’t like that type of environment.
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
11:57 am
Enter your comments here
Hootinanny Yum Yum
February 22nd, 2011
11:57 am
I don’t know… Maybe it views of people like Robert Reich, one of Obama’s “go to” economic advisers, that have whites so down in the dumps.
Speaking as a unemployed, white male, over 50, with an advanced degree; I know I am just thrilled when I think about Reich’s testimony before congress. I’m empowered every time I read his Jan 8th, 2009, blog entitled, “The Stimulus: How to Create Jobs Without Them All Going to Skilled Professionals and White Male Construction Workers.”
http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/01/stimulus-how-to-create-jobs-without.html
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
11:57 am
LWM, thanks for the Think Progress bit, but I’m sorry, I’m still confused.
Is it Scott Walker or George Will who’s the toupeed ghoul?
(I thought Scott Walker was better described as one of these…)
BADA BING
February 22nd, 2011
11:57 am
0311031718111801…..you have not told us what your new blog name means. My guess is that it is the # of people on welfare and/or unemployment, that have tattoos, flat screens, and cell phones! That has to be it.
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
11:58 am
“kick the can down the road thing”
Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin kicking the can down the road …
nope, I think it was a BIT more cerebral than that …
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2011
11:58 am
“No matter what your job is in the military, the strucutre and regiment is still there. Some people don’t like that type of environment.”
I said nothing about the military. I said a MILITIA, as in this sense: “a body of citizen soldiers as distinguished from professional soldiers.”
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
11:59 am
Bada – I have a tattoo, flat screen and was on unemployment during the dot-com bust … does that count?
barking frog
February 22nd, 2011
11:59 am
USinUK have you noticed the danger there that requires
a US air base on every UK airbase ?
Keep up the good fight!
February 22nd, 2011
11:59 am
Bing…its simple…Scout Zero…same silliness, same diatribe….even less filing. You might try Bing Zero
Keep up the good fight!
February 22nd, 2011
12:00 pm
filling….not filing.
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
12:00 pm
Maybe it views of people like Robert Reich, one of Obama’s “go to” economic advisers
oh yeah. Obama’s TOTALLY doing as Reich commands…
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
12:01 pm
barking – a us air base on every uk air base? or us presence?
barking frog
February 22nd, 2011
12:02 pm
USinUK Were the Constitution written perfectly the
amendment process would not have been included.
@@
February 22nd, 2011
12:02 pm
@@ … DEAR … is diddums having a bad day???
Not at all, USinUK.
Peeple, peeple, peeple. Did I say I was smokin’ a pork butt for dinner? NO!
What I said was I’m off to prepare dinner. I’m making pepper steak for dinner.
I was smokin’ a pork butt for fun.
You guys have liberal arts degrees, don’t you?
You’ve got the liberal part down. Problem is you missed “the art”….it’s in the double entendre.
Nice Guy
February 22nd, 2011
12:03 pm
“I said a MILITIA, as in this sense: “a body of citizen soldiers as distinguished from professional soldiers.””
It matters not, Doggone. The point is still the same.
Here, I’ll do you a favor…gimmie that shovel. You’ve dug far enough.
Left wing management
February 22nd, 2011
12:03 pm
oh yeah. Obama’s TOTALLY doing as Reich commands…
Exactly.
Btw, it’s Georgie Boy, the bow-tied one, I’m talking about.
barking frog
February 22nd, 2011
12:04 pm
USinUK The USAF says they are airbases thus not
subject to British command.
BADA BING
February 22nd, 2011
12:05 pm
us n uk. It would tell us what kind of person you are if you got the tattos and flat screens WHILE you were on uemployment, or while you were working. Do you see the difference?
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
12:05 pm
Btw, it’s Georgie Boy, the bow-tied one, I’m talking about.
that’s a rug? really?
BADA BING
February 22nd, 2011
12:07 pm
keep it simple. No BING 0 for me….I go all the way to 11.
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
12:08 pm
nope, I think it was a BIT more cerebral than that …
I think they liked to pork a smokin’ butt for fun, actually.
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
12:08 pm
Bada – just wondered about the overlap. I mean, if I got the tattoos and flat screens THEN was on unemployment, would that count?
Hootinanny Yum Yum
February 22nd, 2011
12:09 pm
sfd,
I don’t believe Obama’s doing as Reich commands any more than I believe the president’s views are shaped by, say, the likes of Bill Ayers or Jeremiah Wright.
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
12:09 pm
barking – sorry, I couldn’t even begin to answer that question. I’ve been to Andrews AFB loads of times, but that’s the extent of my experience / knowledge of them.
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
12:10 pm
barking – I think it was written perfectly – but even the FFs realized that time rolls on and things change …
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 22nd, 2011
12:10 pm
BADA BING:
1) Yep ………… are real diss for the POTUS and Mrs.
2) First two numbers ……. military MOS Second two numbers ……. civilian occupational series
BADA BING
February 22nd, 2011
12:10 pm
UK, you can have all the tats, TVs, iPods, BMWs that you want, I don’t care. I care about anyone that is FLEECING the taxpayers. I don’t give a rat’s ass about your personal life.
Left wing management
February 22nd, 2011
12:12 pm
Hootinanny Yum Yum:
I’m actually – it may surprise you – not necessarily in disagreement with you over the questionable wisdom of Reich’s framing this as an issue of minority vs “white male” issue, especially since the “long-term unemployed” cohort he wants to help no doubt includes no small number of white males. That aside though, the point he’s making is that if the stimulus is not part of some broader commitment to providing job training and skills, the stimulus projects will simply go to those who already possess the requisite skills.
In any case, as stands for decibels has pointed out, Robert Reich is being listened to by this administration about as much as the Paul Volckers, the Joe Stiglitzes, and the Robert Kuttners, people who favored true reform of the financial sector and a reorientation of the country’s economic system back towards something more in line with a New Deal-type liberalism. Needless to say, their counsels have fallen on deaf ears. The only people Obama really seems to listen to are the Rahm Emanuels, Larry Summers (when they were there) and Tim Geithners of the world.
larry
February 22nd, 2011
12:13 pm
Why else would you smoke a pork butt , but for fun?
Just do it in moderation and dont let the law find you .
barking frog
February 22nd, 2011
12:13 pm
USinUK Thanks. Just wondering..I fail to understand why
we need 25+ airbases in Britain….I took High Altitude training
at Andrews…taught me to respect the little oxygen thing in
the stewardess speech….
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
12:13 pm
I don’t believe Obama’s doing as Reich commands any more than I believe the president’s views are shaped by, say, the likes of Bill Ayers or Jeremiah Wright.
which would be to say, not a whole hell of a lot. (I doubt he’s even spoken to Wright in the past two years.)
I mean, Reich has been telling anyone who’ll listen that we need to have a new batch of much, much higher tax brackets, going up to 70% of all income above 5 million/year.
You really think that sort of proposal has much sway in Middle-Man’s psyche these days?
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 22nd, 2011
12:14 pm
USinUK:
I hear you but but you shouldn’t operate that way in a rescue operation when hostages have already been killed …………. all pirates are assumed to be armed or stapped with explosives. They ALL “get gundowned” in the initial assault and while clearing the boat ………….. the end !
Left wing management
February 22nd, 2011
12:16 pm
stands for decibels: “that’s a rug? really?”
Oh man, is that a rug?
Are there rugs in the One Thousand and One Nights?
BADA BING
February 22nd, 2011
12:19 pm
@@…about that smoked pork butt…..don’t inhale anywhere near that thing !!
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
12:19 pm
Are there rugs in the One Thousand and One Nights?
I guess I try to look away whenever George Will is on my TeeVee.
Keep up the good fight!
February 22nd, 2011
12:21 pm
So lets be clear…
Scout Zero is not present on a rescue operation but asserts that the trained military personnel on site have erred. No evidence. No facts. No review. No idea what the on the ground facts were. Rush to judgment.
No sense…the end!
barking frog
February 22nd, 2011
12:22 pm
Bada, maybe you should start a Limit Expenditures To Only Necessities
While On Unemployment movement with both federal and state auditors…
Hootinanny Yum Yum
February 22nd, 2011
12:23 pm
sfd,
So; what you’re saying is; the only people that have any influence on you, are those you’ve had direct contact with in the last two years?
Your views, values and perceptions aren’t shaped by those you’ve met, listened to or admired over the years?
Left wing management
February 22nd, 2011
12:24 pm
BREAKING NEWS
Wow, with John Thune out of the race now and talk of no Huckabee run, what to make of the rapidly shrinking GOP field?
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
12:25 pm
Since it’s still technically Sarah-Free February, I’ll just say that this link is, um, interesting if like that sort of thing.
anyway, gotta leave this time-suck. Later, all.
USinUK
February 22nd, 2011
12:25 pm
barking – proximity to Europe and Eastern Bloc and ME/ ease of flying north over the pole would be my guess
barking frog
February 22nd, 2011
12:27 pm
USinUK You may be right but it could be just a low rent thing…
Paul
February 22nd, 2011
12:28 pm
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“it’s in the double entendre.”
Oh yeah, stiletto lady – I knew you really meant you’ve got a smokin’ butt!
Keep up the good fight!
February 22nd, 2011
12:28 pm
sfd…there’ll be a lot more interesting emails from that book…..rewriting Sarah’s prior claims….like the one about hating her job.