For all the anger directed at Hosni Mubarak in Egypt, he isn’t Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi.
So far, at least 200 Libyan protesters have been killed by the Libyan military, and with the regime teetering, Gadhafi’s son, Saif, has warned in a TV appearance that “instead of crying over 200 deaths we will cry over 100,000s of deaths… We will flight to the last man and woman and bullet. We will not lose Libya. We will not let Al Jazeera, Al Arabiya and BBC trick us. We will live in Libya and die in Libya.”
And Saif has the reputation of a moderate.
With no foreign press allowed in the nation, verifiable first-hand reports are impossible. But multiple witnesses report that the Libyan navy is lobbing shells at civilian areas and helicopter gunships are firing on crowds. Two Libyan fighter pilots have defected, landing their jets in Malta rather than take part in the slaughter. There are reports of foreign mercenaries being flown in to carry out violence against the Libyan people that Libyan forces might balk at perpetrating. Libya’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations has accused Gadhafi of genocide; its envoy to the Arab League, Abdel Moneim al-Honi, announced he was “joining the revolution”.
In the modern, interconnected world, large-scale violence against your own people isn’t supposed to be practical any longer, even for a dictator. Gadhafi is putting that expectation to a rather stern test.
As recently as 1982, Syria’s Hafez al-Assad put down a rebellion in the town of Hama by blocking all exits from the city, then reducing Hama to rubble by weeks of bombing and aerial bombardment. Once all resistance ceased, Syrian forces moved into the town and began executing residents by the thousands. By the time it ended, as many as 30,000 people were dead.
That’s the reason you don’t hear much about protesters in Syria.
With exports of a million barrels a day, Libya accounts for about 10 percent of Europe’s oil supply, so the violence there has already had an impact on world oil prices. Gold prices have jumped as well. Oil companies are evacuating as many foreign national as possible, and the United States is evacuating all non-essential diplomatic personnel.
– Jay Bookman
350 comments Add your comment
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
3:55 pm
Well, here comes the $5 gas. Instead of taking Hussein out, maybe he’s the one we should have taken out back in the 1980’s.
PJ
February 21st, 2011
3:56 pm
World War III will begin in and because of the politics and unrest and oil supplies in the Middle East, but I hope I’m wrong.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:02 pm
BP is not happy today.
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2011
4:03 pm
This is what the Republicans said they wanted, isn’t it. To plant the seeds of democracy in the middle east. Or was that just BushSpeak.
Let’s see what sprouts from those seeds. Meanwhile, I’m keeping an eye out for ways to reduce my use of fossil fuels even more. Solar cells to charge car batteries might be a wise investment.
Kamchak
February 21st, 2011
4:04 pm
There are reports of foreign mercenaries being flown in to carry out violence against the Libyan people that Libyan forces might balk at perpetrating.
Ruh, roh.
@@
February 21st, 2011
4:05 pm
We will live in Libya and die in Libya.”
Let’s see….he’s got seven biological sons and one nephew (adopted).
Eight snipers, eight bullets. Gotta take ‘em out all at once.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:07 pm
@@,
“Eight snipers, eight bullets. Gotta take ‘em out all at once.”
Who is we?
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:09 pm
@@,
@ 4.07,
Sorry….I hit enter accidentally…trying to do two things at once…
My questions was suppose to be who should take them out? The US, the European Union, Russia?
Granny Godzilla
February 21st, 2011
4:11 pm
Reuters) – Two Libyan Air Force fighter pilots defected on Monday and flew their jets to Malta where they told authorities they had been ordered to bomb protesters, Maltese government officials said.
They said the two pilots, both colonels, took off from a base near Tripoli. One of them has requested political asylum.
@@
February 21st, 2011
4:13 pm
Cowboy:
My questions was suppose to be who should take them out?
Does it really matter? I’d go with Mossad.
@@
February 21st, 2011
4:14 pm
It’s being reported that some within the military are joining the protesters.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
4:15 pm
This is what is below the veneer of ‘civilization’ in so many countries. Evil. Hopefully the Libyan people and international community will set it back.
,
Tom Middleton
February 21st, 2011
4:16 pm
If I were a Libyan, especially after experiencing the joys of freedom in the U.S., I would be fighting against the Gadhafi tyranny with everything I had.
It’s easy to see why citizens of Libya and others hate their governments so much and are willing to die for something better. Like the leaders in Tunisia and Egypt, Moammar Gadhafi cares nothing for his people!
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:19 pm
Paul,
“This is what is below the veneer of ‘civilization’ in so many countries.”
With the increased militarization of our civilian police, it makes me wonder what lurks beneath our own surface.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/4203345
@@
February 21st, 2011
4:19 pm
Like I said….does it really matter?
Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an Egyptian-born Sunni cleric, issued a fatwa Feb. 21 calling for the assassination of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, Al Jazeera reported Feb. 21. Al-Qaradawi said that any soldier or man capable of shooting should kill Gadhafi to “relieve Libyans of his evil,” DPA reported.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:26 pm
@@,
“Like I said….does it really matter?”
I suppose not..as long as it is not the US.
Keep up the good fight!
February 21st, 2011
4:28 pm
JCB…I’d be more worried about the 2d amendment nuts who want to be armed sufficiently to “fight” our military. Let’s face it. One of the major differences between Libya and Egypt is who the military is supporting. If our “second amendment” nuts claim their guns will be to fight tyranny, then who are they preparing to fight? The US Military?
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
4:31 pm
With the increased militarization of our civilian police, it makes me wonder what lurks beneath our own surface.
Sometimes it’s not what you think it is….
http://www.odmp.org/year.php
Total Line of Duty Deaths: 28
Assault: 1
Automobile accident: 7
Duty related illness: 1
Gunfire: 14
Gunfire (Accidental): 1
Heart attack: 2
Struck by vehicle: 2
*Courtesy of the Officer Down Memorial Page, Inc.
Those statistics are for 2011. Keep in mind that today is only day #52 of the year.
@@
February 21st, 2011
4:33 pm
Cowboy:
I suppose not..as long as it is not the US.
Why not? It’s a lot cheaper than a war. Fewer casualties too.
carlosgvv
February 21st, 2011
4:36 pm
Gadhafi is an old dictator in power for many years who has a son to take over when the time is right. His actions are exactly what you would expect and what usually happens when people rise up against a tyrant. As for oil prices, they will soar regardless of whether there is actually a shortage or not because of business greed and puppet politicans.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:37 pm
@@,
“Why not? It’s a lot cheaper than a war. Fewer casualties too.’
B/c what prevents another country using that excuse to assassinate the family members of our leaders? Libya could have used that excuse to take out W and Jeb, while Poppa was in charge…very slippery slope…not to mention highly dubious on the moral front.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:38 pm
carlosgvv,
“As for oil prices, they will soar regardless of whether there is actually a shortage or not because of business greed and puppet politicans.”
Bingo!
jt
February 21st, 2011
4:40 pm
JewCoBot@4:19———
I too wonder.
The feds will only blind the mundanes “temporarily” and “harmlessly,” the professional liars assure us. Writes a Robert Wenzel source:
We get all sorts of government trade journals delivered here. I found this while leafing through the latest issue of GSN: Government Security News (http://www.gsnmagazine.com/).
The “Dazer Laser” is an “ocular distraction device” that emits a non-damaging [Oh yeah-RW] laser pattern that temporarily blinds a person. Some of them will work up to 1.5 miles! The videos show quite clearly how they do their dirty work… I can imagine it won’t be long before SWAT teams are mounting these to their RV’s for crowd and riot control.
This Libyan crap is none of our business.
But of course we have millions of unemployed kids to help “restore order” in the ME.
Now the gay community AND women can be cannon fodder.
Joy.
Keep up the good fight!
February 21st, 2011
4:41 pm
Why is it that the conservatives always want us to get into taking out leadership they dont agree with in other countries and to kill leaders. They dont want to support political discussion and negotiation with those countries, foreign aid to support the people and they dont want to pay taxes to support nation building. Why is it the US’s job to even get involved other than to condemn the actions of their leaders? Military action is not the answer to all, it is only one step, if and when appropriate,
Chickenhawks, geez.
Kamchak
February 21st, 2011
4:41 pm
If mercenaries are in this fight, does anyone know where Erik Prince is?
N-GA
February 21st, 2011
4:42 pm
SoCo – That’s why the police depts of all large cities want tighter gun controls. You would think that most Americans would support their police, wouldn’t you? Here is a letter from the head of the International Assn of Police Chiefs:
Letter to House Judiciary Committee
Dear Chairman Hyde: On behalf of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, I am writing to express our strong support for two vitally important firearms related provisions that were included in S. 254, the Violent and Repeat Juvenile Offender Accountability Act recently approved by the United States Senate. Specifically, the IACP strongly supports provisions which would require the performance of background checks prior to the sale or transfer of weapons at gun shows, as well as extending the requirements of the Brady Act to cover juvenile acts of crime. The IACP has always viewed the Brady Act as a vital component of any comprehensive crime control effort. Since its enactment, the Brady Act has prevented more than 250,000 felons, fugitives and others prohibited from owning firearms from purchasing handguns. However, the efficacy of the Brady Act is being undermined by oversights in the law which allow those individuals prohibited from owning firearms from obtaining weapons, at events such as gun shows, without undergoing a background check. The IACP believes that it is vitally important that Congress act swiftly to close these loopholes and preserve the effectiveness of the Brady Act. In addition, the IACP believes that juveniles must be held accountable for their acts of violence. Therefore, the IACP also supports modifying the current Brady Act to permanently prohibit gun ownership by an individual, if that individual, while a juvenile, commits a crime that would have triggered a gun disability if their crime had been committed as an adult. Thank you for your attention to this matter. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at 703/836-6767. Sincerely, Ronald S. Neubauer President
jt
February 21st, 2011
4:43 pm
Hey Southern Comfort-
Herein lies a counter link to your 4:31.
Innocence VS state-sponsered violence.
http://www.mpp.org/victims/victim-stories.html
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:46 pm
jt,
“But of course we have millions of unemployed kids to help “restore order” in the ME.”
Very sad…and very true.
Pogo
February 21st, 2011
4:46 pm
While all of the American press was giddy with delight about the Egyptian “youths” revolution for “democracy”, they once again forgot that the Middle East ain’t America. A small political ember over there can turn into a full blown conflagration with a very undesirable end for all of us. I am not a very religious man at all but I was raised in the church and it is very easy to see some very scary correllations between biblical prophecy and scripture and what is currently going on worldwide, not just in the Middle East.
On the earlier thread on Wisconsin, if anyone here thinks that the only issue at hand is the right to bargain then you are sadly mistaken. The core issues are that the government workers don’t want to have to live up to the same work rules and standards as the private sector and their union bosses want more and more money for themselves by forcing everyone “covered” under the union/government contract to pay union dues (whether those indiviudals want to or not). It is not right for the unions to force people, just because of their job classification to pay union dues even if they choose not to be in the union. Especially if those dues are paid for by private sector taxpayers (which is where the revenue to fund the public service workers unions dues emanates). If government workers provide such a vital function for this country (as liberals such as Jay love to tout) then why should they be able to strike and deprive this country’s citizens from such vital services that these very same citizens are paying for through their private sector taxes? We all know we must have government workers but we also know they need to work by the same rules of us out the private sector. If you suck, you go. That is blunt but that is the truth in the bold new world we are living in. It is survival of the fittest, if you will. Some fool here today made the statement that once the paycheck is written for a government worker, then it becomes private sector. I think I have never seen a more inane comment on this blog. This is just how dillusional the progressives have become and it shows their total disrespect of the fiscal predicament this country is in. I can only hope that Obama and the liberals continue on promoting this whiners crusade going on in Wisconsin. Average Americans are out here struggling to pay their bills and to eat and these people in Wisconsin are whining about having to pay for more of their pension and healthcare when they are paid more and have better benefits than 95% of the rest of us? The inclination when reading about this is to say, “F#$% them. They need to grow up”.
@@
February 21st, 2011
4:46 pm
Better hope Lukashenko in Belarus doesn’t experience problems with his upcoming elections. He’s saying he’ll use the military to suppress any opposition.
In response to a question about Belarus’s domestic policies, President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela said “We see here a model social state like the one we are beginning to create.”
There will be protests in Caracas tomorrow.
Venezuelan university students will hold a protest march Feb. 22 in Caracas to support hunger strikers demanding human rights improvements, Globovision reported Feb. 21. The march will begin at the Canadian Embassy and head toward the Venezuelan Foreign Ministry.
They’re piling up, these protests.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:47 pm
Kamchak,
“f mercenaries are in this fight, does anyone know where Erik Prince is?”
Interestingly enough right in the neighborhood:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/world/18blackwater.html
pat
February 21st, 2011
4:48 pm
It’s amazing how you can take the jaw dropping protests occuring all over the middle east, then turn it to be a democrat talking point on conservatism? Hello stupid.
The Lybians have balls, no other way to put it, so do the Iranians. They are rising up too, and the Iranian gov is shooting them as well.
What if it works? What if all the regimes topple? Saudi Arabia next? Hope so.
Glenn Beck
February 21st, 2011
4:49 pm
See. I told you. And I was right.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
4:50 pm
SHOCK & AWE! SHOCK & AWE! SHOCK & AWE!
We’ll be greeted as liberators!
You go to war with the army you have.
If there’s a 1% chance that Libyans are helping al-Qaeda , we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response. It’s not about our analysis … It’s about our response.
America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.
Oh, for the good old days when deadly and incompetent chickenhawks were calling the shots…
Jimmy62
February 21st, 2011
4:51 pm
Keep up: Not sure what your rant is supposed to mean. Have there been calls from the right to kill Ghaddafi? And as he slaughters his own people, are you saying that having him killed would be a bad thing?
All these revolutions are great. A lot of these places had stability, but everyone being poor and hungry, while stable, is not such a great existence. No one can know who each country will end up. Some will probably choose hard core Muslim leaders, and those countries will end up worse off, or just as bad, as they currently are. Some will choose secular Democracy, and though the next few years will be tough, they will be far better off in the long run. Just gotta wait and see.
Kamchak
February 21st, 2011
4:53 pm
jewcowboy
Figured as much, after all it’s where the action is.
@@
February 21st, 2011
4:54 pm
Jimmy62:
Have there been calls from the right to kill Ghaddafi?
Just mine.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:54 pm
Southern Comfort/ jt,
You should really see some the research Radley Balko has done on the subject. Here is his testimony before Congress.
http://reason.com/archives/2007/07/02/our-militarized-police-departm
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 21st, 2011
4:55 pm
Well, this Gadhafi guy sure is cracking down. I wonder if the people he’s killing are like those radical, dangerous teachers and guvmint workers in WI. Right now, I got nobody to root for in this Libya thing. I mean, if Gadhafi is a good strong Conservative then I say let the lead fly. But if he’s just a dictator that don’t care about the godly principles of the Right, then I say mow him down.
I’ll let you know who I’m rooting for as soon as I have a little talk with my buddy Jim Earl. He always understands this kind of stuff.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
4:56 pm
Jimmy62,
“Have there been calls from the right to kill Ghaddafi?”
Well @@ is calling for the assassination of his family.
Bosch
February 21st, 2011
4:56 pm
I can’t believe this guy is still around.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
4:58 pm
jt
Personally, I don’t give a rats ass if people smoke weed. I also think that if it were legalized, there would be a drop in violence in the US, as well as an area of economic opportunity for our country. Let’s face it, there are not many areas left where we can expand our economy to create millions of jobs.
I think, but can’t answer for every case, that when officers do wrong, they get punished. I don’t like dirty cops, and I definitely do not like to see innocent ones gunned down needlessly. I’m not going to waste time arguing with you on government issues because it’s like talking to a brick wall. Your mind is set, and nothing will change it.
You may think of your link as a counter, but I see it as more reason that we need competent legislators and less jackesses in office.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:00 pm
Bosch,
“I can’t believe this guy is still around.”
Evidently gold epaulets/braid, massive shoulder pads and cheesy sunglasses contain some sort of life giving energy source…
@@
February 21st, 2011
5:01 pm
Am I the only one who thinks Gadhafi is suffering from a venereal disease. Somethin’s been eating at his brain.
Idi Amin was afflicted. Vladimir Lenin too.
Pogo
February 21st, 2011
5:03 pm
And Jay, I hate to veer “off topic” but you gotta love that Michelle Obama goes around telling the country that it needs to eat more healthy food to fight obesity meanwhile she and her girls feast on beef short ribs (which we all know is about one of the most unhealthy things that anyone can eat) on their ski retreat. And did you get a good look at the White Houses menu for their super bowl party (Chicken Wings, Sausages, etc.)? That is typical liberal leader hypocrisy which is “do as we say, not as WE do”. Liberals always know what is best for the “collective” even they don’t don’t do those things themselves. Kind of like Gore jetting around in a CO2 belching plane and with his houses whose carbon footprints are only rivaled by a super volcano. I bet Michelle has never met a rib she didn’t love.
TnGelding
February 21st, 2011
5:03 pm
Be careful what you wish for. To be true to our mantra we need to send covert troops to help some of the oppressed, but they’re tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan. He can’t kill everyone. He’s toast. It’s just a matter of how many innocents have to die. Is Obama the new leader of the Muslim world? Did he lay the ground for the uprisings?
Cannon Fodder
February 21st, 2011
5:03 pm
Did someone call?
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:04 pm
@@,
“Somethin’s been eating at his brain.”
http://health.learninginfo.org/gold-poisoning-symptoms.htm
Those darned sunglasses and epaulets…
jm
February 21st, 2011
5:04 pm
Buy oil. higher oil prices drive up inflation. so good to be short treasuries too. in my opinion..
cheers. love busy holidays….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 21st, 2011
5:05 pm
jimmy62, besides @@, I have seen a number of other calls from righties but 1 is all that matters. As for someone killing him, no love lost there… and I believe justified. But not the US job to do it. And if you really care about those people, is it only right to care when they are killed but starving or suffering is okay?
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
5:06 pm
The core issues are that the government workers don’t want to have to live up to the same work rules and standards as the private sector and their union bosses want more and more money for themselves by forcing everyone “covered” under the union/government contract to pay union dues (whether those indiviudals want to or not).
BULLSH*T!!!!!!!! I don’t know what kind of work you do, but if my work isn’t A+ every day, somebody could be standing behind you in Wal Mart with a suicide belt on. Do you have that kind of pressure on you at work at a daily basis? Do you have to try to read someone’s mind to determine whether they’re coming here for fun or coming to possibliy kill you and your family? When your job requires you to deal with that pressure all day on a daily basis, then you can compare your job to mine.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:06 pm
Pogo,
“That is typical liberal leader hypocrisy which is “do as we say, not as WE do”.”
You have heard of something called moderation right? If they ate short ribs every night of the week, that might be an issue…but on vacation? Sheesh…you must bored.
jt
February 21st, 2011
5:06 pm
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
Good reply but you are the one that posted that article about how many Police have been killed.
I get sick at the publicity of them, when it seems that no one cares for the others.
There is a reason why your beloved Federal government keeps statistics on “officers down” but refuses to keep statistics on “wrongful deathes”.
We CAN’T morally lecture ANYONE. ..Actually we can………but the world is laughing at our hypocrisy.
Roni and Charity Bowers
BOWERS.THUMBNAIL.JPG
On April 20, 2001, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency ordered the Peruvian air force to shoot down a plane suspected of smuggling drugs out of Peru. The plane was not carrying drugs but rather American religious missionaries Jim and Roni Bowers; Roni and 7-month-old daughter Charity died in the shooting.
@@
February 21st, 2011
5:07 pm
Cowboy:
Well @@ is calling for the assassination of his family.
Not his ENTIRE family. Just the males.
During my liberal days, I felt bad when we bombed his residence killing his baby daughter. Felt bad for the baby but not the “good” Colonel.
Del
February 21st, 2011
5:09 pm
The administration has not had much to say about the mess in Libya or too much about the Middle East protests generally. I guess because they looked so clueless and impotent during the Egyptian uprising they’re keeping a lower profile and only weighing in on Governor Walker’s union busting in Wisconsin. Of course once again, they’re looking clueless and impotent in this domestic situation as well.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
5:09 pm
Pogo, one itsy bitsy little problem with your cogent “analysis”.
The First Lady ain’t obese.
Do you even understand the definition of hypocrisy?
You need a compendium of logical fallacies to actually learn what it is that you use as arguments…
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:09 pm
@@,
“Not his ENTIRE family. Just the males.”
Ahh…I’m sure that distinction makes sense…I’m just not seeing it.
TnGelding
February 21st, 2011
5:10 pm
The dish was not your normal short ribs:
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Short-Ribs-Braised-in-Coffee-Ancho-Chile-Sauce-107596
…and it had healthy sides.
Dave R.
February 21st, 2011
5:11 pm
“Evidently gold epaulets/braid, massive shoulder pads and cheesy sunglasses contain some sort of life giving energy source…”
Not to mention the occasional “chin slinky”
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:11 pm
Del,
“I guess because they looked so clueless and impotent during the Egyptian uprising they’re keeping a lower profile”
Just out of curiosity…why does the US have to comment on everything that happens in the world. I have a sneaking suspicion you would have a problem no matter what the President said…or didn’t say.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
5:11 pm
Just the males? Infants included?
Sounds rather Herodian…
Kamchak
February 21st, 2011
5:11 pm
And did you get a good look at the White Houses menu for their super bowl party…
Yeah, because the spread for one party = every day menu.
Teh stoopid, it burns. Oi!
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
5:12 pm
Especially if those dues are paid for by private sector taxpayers (which is where the revenue to fund the public service workers unions dues emanates).
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! If that statement were anywhere near the truth, I’d vote for you as governor. Quit while you’re close behind, bro. Union dues comes from the PAYCHECK of public sector employees. If you’re going to make such a dubious claim as that, then you might as well say that every friggin’ penny of a public sector’s paycheck that they spend is taxpayer money. Hell, you’re paying union dues, buying gas, paying mortgages, paying car notes, buying lap dances, or anything else that person spends their money on. GEEZ!!!!!!!!!
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:16 pm
Dave R.,
“chin slinky” ?
Del
February 21st, 2011
5:16 pm
jewcowboy, do you suspect that I don’t think much of Obama’s handling of foreign and domestic affairs and that I won’t be voting for him should he seek another term in 012?
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:17 pm
Pogo,
“I bet Michelle has never met a rib she didn’t love.”
According the bible…most women haven’t.
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
5:17 pm
The idea that conservatives approve of genocide and asasination is far out of line. Have we forgotten the Holocaust, Stalin’s killings and Genghis Khan, etc. etc. ? Christians have not. Except for defense of their nation and its people have Christians gone to war. They have no joy in killing fellow human beings.
Gadhafi is doing a political genocide. Kill all those who disagree with his rule. An old reason indeed. Not one we agree with.
I am disappointed in TAXPAYER. He has even tried to involve somehow President Bush in this talk of killing. Even suggesting that democracy is not a goal to promote. How low can you get in politics? Not much lower than that.
My only suggestion at this point is to call upon the UN to do what is was established to do. That is, a try at keeping this world in order. I applaud those who protest for human rights in their country. That is different from slaughtering those in disagreement as done in Syria, Kurdistan and Libya. Let us hope that those in the Middle East see the difference.
Dave R.
February 21st, 2011
5:17 pm
Scruffy, less-than-full beard, jewcowboy.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2011
5:17 pm
“If you’re going to make such a dubious claim as that, then you might as well say that every friggin’ penny of a public sector’s paycheck that they spend is taxpayer money”
Anything to be a victim. It’s just unAmerican to be expected to pay for services received…right? /snark
@@
February 21st, 2011
5:18 pm
Sounds rather Herodian…
And abortion on demand doesn’t?
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
5:18 pm
jt
How do you know statistics are not kept? Anytime an incident happens that results in the loss of innocent lives, there’s always analysis done to see what could have prevented that. Just because YOU don’t see anything doesn’t mean that nothing is going on. You act as if all law enforcement are robots or something. We have families just like everyone else. And, the statistics I got were not from the federal government….
The Officer Down Memorial Page, Inc., (ODMP) is a non-profit organization dedicated to honoring America’s fallen law enforcement heroes. More than 20,000 officers have made the ultimate sacrifice in the United States and it is with great honor that the ODMP pays a lasting tribute to each of these officers by preserving their memories within its pages. All who visit the ODMP will be deeply moved by the countless stories of selfless courage and heroism exhibited by officers who lost their lives while serving and protecting the citizens of this great nation.
A non-profit just as you posted. That’s ok. I’ll still protect you even though I know you have no love for my profession. I don’t take it personal.
TnGelding
February 21st, 2011
5:18 pm
(E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
5:12 pm
And you’d be right!?
Dave R.
February 21st, 2011
5:19 pm
“I am disappointed in TAXPAYER.”
Isn’t that just stating the obvious?
jm
February 21st, 2011
5:19 pm
BTW. Libya is awful. Let’s hope the nutjob doesn’t follow through on what he says.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
5:21 pm
And abortion on demand doesn’t?
No.
He just murdered Jewish children.
Figures
February 21st, 2011
5:21 pm
I thought after Libya rid itself of WMD that the Bush administration had deemed them to be a friend of America. After all, Gadhafi is no friend of Islamic extremism.
Shoot. You ever see some of the eye candy the man has at his side?
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:21 pm
Del @ 5.16,
Just a little inkling. Now, again, why do you feel Obama needs to weigh in on a situation that is monitored as it develops? Wouldn’t the be a little imprudent?
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/21/white-house-monitors-situation-libya
But…doesn’t Intel have a freaking cool green room…
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:23 pm
Dave R. @ 5.17,
Ahhh..gotcha
TnGelding
February 21st, 2011
5:24 pm
I thought he wasn’t doing enough to create jobs? You just can’t satisfy some people.
Tommy Maddox
February 21st, 2011
5:26 pm
Well, now we see that Pres. Bush’s plot to cause oil prices to rise to benefit all of his oil friends is coming to fruition.
jm
February 21st, 2011
5:27 pm
BTW, 1 more. I hope BP loses all its $ in Libya. After their BS Lockerbie deal, they deserve to lose every red cent and more.
Del
February 21st, 2011
5:28 pm
jewcowboy, I don’t I think he should say anything if he doesn’t have grasp. He may have learned his lesson during the Egyptian crises where members of his administration made numerous contradictory statements. Although, in the past our presidents as leaders of the free world have typically communicated America’s position strongly on events such as what’s now occurring in Libya, Iran and the Middle East.
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
5:29 pm
the same people who put mubarak in power are busy
providing his replacement and the colonel will be replaced
as well…new world order…
@@
February 21st, 2011
5:29 pm
He just murdered Jewish children.
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace–Ephesians 2:15
Jews and Gentiles alike.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
5:29 pm
Sonny Boy was right about one thing, Libya’s not Egypt or Tunisia. There’s no way of knowing what’s really going on there and no way to predict which way it will go.
One thing is certain, though, the Mid East meltdown is coming on President Obama’s watch. We’ll see. No small part of this, whether or not we want to admit it, is coming from his new stance foreign policy. We’ll see if we have any friends left once the uprisings reach the resolution stages. Personally, I think there’s going to be a lot of disappointed people.
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
5:30 pm
Tommy Maddox, 5:26
Do you know how crazy you sound? President bush’s PLOT???
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
5:34 pm
Regarding BHO’s impotency in Egypt, I concur.
Here we have all these 2,000 lb. bunker busters and Predators just sitting around gathering dust.
Shameful, for such great armaments to go to waste.
And to josef’s point, he surged into Afghanistan (without so much as the first thank you or salute from the acolytes in the War Always Party), so it appears that we’ll get the chance to see if he really is George’s half-black nephew…
TnGelding
February 21st, 2011
5:35 pm
We’d rather be “friends” with ruthless dictators than support freedom and democracy?
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
5:36 pm
The world cannot allow our most valuable commodity to
be controlled by these puny little dictators..all must go.
jt
February 21st, 2011
5:36 pm
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
5:18 pm
jt
How do you know statistics are not kept?
Let me reframe my statement. Statistics are not SHOWN to the public.
Prove me wrong…..you can’t. Moammer Gadhafi kills 200. No different than 4 in Ohio.IMHO.
Statism always ends this way.
Cannon Fodder—————————–back at you—————————-
Excellent soundtrack.
Too close to the truth to be popular………………WAR,INC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXY8GsfnzE4
I’m out to enjoy the short-lived peace.
In closing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,on President’s day, let me offer————-From Robert Higgs—————
Great Leader, who art in Washington,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy empire come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in the Oval Office.
Give us this day our daily dole.
And forgive us our late tax filings,
as we forgive the IRS for refunding our overpayments without interest.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the DEA.
For thine is the federal prison system, the FBI, the military, the CIA, the regulatory agencies, the Surveillance State, and all the rest of the tyrannical apparatus under which we groan, not to mention
the power and the glory,
for ever and ever (unless justice is done sooner).
Amen.
Pogo
February 21st, 2011
5:37 pm
Yep, Taxpayer, $5.00 gas is what we “republicans” really, really wanted. Afterall, we don’t have to pay that price at the pump because we receive a “special” discount. Meanwhile, your weakling in the Whitehouse and his EPA do nothing but stymy domestic production of our own oil and natural gas resources just to cowtow to his liberal base and to prop up the financial standings of those Corporate interests (such as GE) that support him. He is basing all of his decisions upon what is best for these corporate and political “Green” friends like Immelt at GE and the unions. Face it, your president is as much bought off by the labor unions and by the Corporations (if not more than) than any previous US president. Each presidency has its masters and this ones masters are trully an unsavory bunch which he cannot control. GE received taxpayer bailout dollars and Obama approved it because of NBC’s support during his campaign. Obama is beholding to Immelt and Immelt knows it. Bush and his connection to oil is small change compared to Obama and his corporate buddies. On the other hand, if gas is $4/gallon in November of next year your boy is gone. Americans have an innate ability to see a loser and they are seeing one with Obama. Jay keeps saying Obama wins in the next election but the reality is that both houses of our government will probably go to the Republicans next year. Even if Obama wins, which at this point is very questionable, he won’t be able to do anything after the 2012 elections. After experiencing Obama, Reid and Pelosi in control for just two short years, middle America has had it with progressives/liberals. We are worse off than we were before.
TnGelding
February 21st, 2011
5:37 pm
It’s the commodity speculators that have to go.
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
5:39 pm
whether you like it or not, Islam, like christianity and judaism has
always been motivated by the love of money….
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
5:40 pm
Well, I did not intentionally finish the last post at 5:30. . But posting with crazies gets harder sometimes.
JOSEF,
While agreeing that President Obama is not the veteran foreign policy man we need, I do not think he can be blamed in any way for what has hit the Middle East. I think trouble was brewing a long time and the spark from WikiLeaks started a small fire in Tunisian that got the big one going.
I don’t believe anything that President Obama could have done or said could have prevented this wide uprising. Many guessed at its approach but few were certain when it would come. .
@@
February 21st, 2011
5:42 pm
Cowboy:
Ahh…I’m sure that distinction makes sense…I’m just not seeing it.
If it makes you feel better, I’d spare the one that committed parenticide.
jewcowboy
February 21st, 2011
5:42 pm
Del,
“in the past our presidents as leaders of the free world have typically communicated America’s position strongly on events such as what’s now occurring in Libya, Iran and the Middle East.”
How is he not doing that?
“In a written statement issued Friday, Mr. Obama offered his condolences to the families of those killed during the demonstrations, and Monday the senior administration official once again called for “the need to avoid violence against peaceful protesters,” reiterating the need to respect universal human rights, including the right to peaceful assembly.
The senior official said the administration is considering “all appropriate actions.”
I’m just making the point that when someone is critical of everything the President says and does, his credibility on the President’s job performance is a bit suspect.
Anywho…I have to walk the wieners…have a pleasant evening.
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Del
February 21st, 2011
5:44 pm
joseph, further deterioration in the Middle East will make us all very disappointed in many ways regardless of political preference, we’ll all feel the pain. Based on that fact, I don’t wish the president ill in whatever foreign policies the administration puts forth in the Middle East, I just don’t have confidence that he’s the best for the job. Should he step up and show foreign relation skills that I don’t believe he possess, I’ll applaud and please remind me I said that should I forget.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2011
5:44 pm
“whether you like it or not, Islam, like christianity and judaism has
always been motivated by the love of money”
You’re blaming the religion for the faults that belong to the PEOPLE involved
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
5:45 pm
GELDING
“We’d rather be “friends” with ruthless dictators than support freedom and democracy?”
Yes.
Frog
“whether you like it or not, Islam, like christianity and judaism has
always been motivated by the love of money
No. People have been motivated by the love of money. Jews, Muslims, and Christians have no special propensity that direction. The homo sapiens is the aquisitive ape.
RW-(the original)
February 21st, 2011
5:46 pm
I see we’ve moved on to Libya. Did we finish fixing Wisconsin first?
Del
February 21st, 2011
5:47 pm
jewcowboy, you must then find suspect the credibility of many of your fellow liberals on this blog, although I’ve never seen you mention it.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2011
5:47 pm
“The homo sapiens is the aquisitive ape.”
That’s too limiting. ALL primates are acquisitive
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
5:50 pm
DUSTY
Which is why I said it’s coming on his watch. I think that his foreign policy direction change emboldened the oppressed to shake of their oppressors…
DEL
I wish our President the best, but I do believe that his feel good PR gambit vis a vis the Mid East was not very well thought out in relation to the potential consequences of those, particularly the idealistic youth, who took it as a serious departure from the same old same old when it comes to implementation…
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
5:50 pm
Barking frog, Wrong! Christians are not motivated by money. They like to have it but believe other things are more valuable. Such as what, you ask? Well, faith and salvation. That’s it.
TnGelding,
Do you want the USA to go around killing all dictators in sight? You realize that we would be quite busy. Doesn’t that disagree with your usual white flag promotions?. We try to promote freedom & peace wherever we can. But it isn’t always possible even when we try.
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
5:51 pm
josef, I have not seen the great houses of worship nor
the commercial enterprises directed by the other religions of the
world.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
5:51 pm
Guitarist Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine played for the remaining protesters a day after Walker signaled no retreat on the measure. Supporters call the bill vital, but opponents label it union-busting.
Calling the proposed budget law “unjust,” Morello said he joined “teachers, students, firefighters, policemen, Green Bay Packers, nurses, steel workers, construction workers and religious groups that are filling the streets to protest.”
Maybe they are playing Rush songs and singing along…
I get up at seven, yeah
And I go to work at nine
I got no time for livin’
Yes, I’m workin’ all the time
It seems to me
I could live my life
A lot better than I think I am
I guess that’s why they call me
They call me the working man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h59mDlBSt7o
Del
February 21st, 2011
5:52 pm
josef, I agree. time to go pick up my daughter. later
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2011
5:52 pm
“Wrong! Christians are not motivated by money”
Uh huh…have you seen the Crystal Cathedral lately?
TnGelding
February 21st, 2011
5:52 pm
No, just stop supporting them.
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
5:53 pm
Dusty, Faith and Salvation cannot be found in the collection plate, as
your Bible will tell you.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
5:55 pm
barking frog…
Hindu temples? Pagodas? Buddhist shrines? The earth is littered with them. The Pyramids of Tenochtilan? Right here at home, the Etowah mounds….it’s intrinsic and in almost all of them, the “house of worship” was also the center of buisness, trade and commerce, tax collection and what have you…
Left wing management
February 21st, 2011
5:57 pm
Bến Tre, Vietnam. February 7, 1968: It became necessary to destroy the town to save it
Attributed to anonymous US soldier
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2011
5:59 pm
“it’s intrinsic and in almost all of them, the “house of worship” was also the center of buisness, trade and commerce, tax collection and what have you”
If you want your religion to survive, you court your local government. If you want your government to survive you court the local religion. They have always been in bed together.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:02 pm
Doggone
@ 8:59
True, that. The three great monotheistic religions (as opposed to faiths) have just proven to be adept and successful in that endeavor…and, yes, true also about all the apes. The homo sapiens has just proven to be adept and successful…
Cannon Fodder
February 21st, 2011
6:02 pm
Rumor has it that Rumsfeld is offering a handshaking photo-op to Walker and Gadafi.
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
6:02 pm
josef,
the Etowah mounds are the remains of a religious house of worship?
and the japanese pagodas in downtown Atlanta are to be compared to the
churches and synagogues. likewise the hindu temples and buddhist shrines
outshine the Mosques, Churches, and Synagogues, i think not so much…
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
6:04 pm
“Christians are not motivated by money”.
In this day and age, that is almost funny.
Many are not, but a whole boatload are. And I guess most of the TV charlatans from Creflo Dollar to Jerry Falwell never got that message.
“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.” Luke 16:13
And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God! Mark 10:23, 24
“Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness leads you toward repentance?” These are the riches which brings eternal life. Romans 2:4
No kidding, mammon is big time popular these days…
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
6:06 pm
Anything to be a victim. It’s just unAmerican to be expected to pay for services received…right? /snark
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:07 pm
Boy, this is just the bad boy roundup today. Blood lusting Libyan dictators and blood sucking union strikers….
Jim Bakker's ghost
February 21st, 2011
6:07 pm
It was never about the money, the millions and millions, it was just about the sex, with anyone but Tammy. Never about the millions and millions in cold hard cash though. That just wouldn’t be the Christian thing to do.
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
6:07 pm
Doggone,
Have you seen the HIndu temple on 29? The beautiful synagogues and Mosques in America You pick one item and make it a symbol. Narrow vision.
Barking Frog,
Faith & salvation are not found in the collection plate but help for the poor, the sick, the prisoner, the homeless, the storm ridden, the starving, the war ridden are reached with the help that comes through that collection plate. Besides extending love, Christians also do what they can in other ways. The collection plate helps do that. Prayer does the rest.
Have you ever prayed in a really tough moment? If not, you are an exception.
What jm left out
February 21st, 2011
6:08 pm
…And Koch-snorting Republicans.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
6:09 pm
LWM, even 43 years on, it is still scary crazy how nuts we went back then.
Red, white and blue blood lust. Always popular with the fringe. Who do it via vicarious methods now.
And Fodder, don’t be too hard on Dumsfeld.
It was just his way of starring in the 1980s Worldwide Apology Tour…
Paul
February 21st, 2011
6:09 pm
“Rumor has it that Rumsfeld is offering a handshaking photo-op to Walker and Gadafi.”
Rumsfeld’s scheduled on Letterman tonight -
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:10 pm
What jm left out – props for getting the pronunciation correct.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
6:11 pm
Rumsfeld’s scheduled on Letterman tonight.
Thank gawd, I never watch that show.
I’d need a barf bucket.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:11 pm
Frog
Yes. That’s what the mound building culture did…and have you seen the Hindu temple in Atlanta?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Temple_of_Atlanta
Right up there with Ahavath Achim and Christ the King for gaudy and ostentatious (my opinion and taste…)
And a bit abroad
http://sacredsites.com/asia/burma_myanmar/rangoon.html
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
6:12 pm
Dusty, and those contributions are part of the reason that each
family in Haiti has received a 20×20 tarpaulin to live in…..
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:13 pm
What jm left out BTW, thank heavens for the Koch brothers employing thousands of Georgians and Atlantans.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
6:13 pm
AmVet
“Thank gawd, I never watch that show.”
I scan the schedules, record if the guest looks interesting.
This one, I’m as interested in watching Letterman’s body language as anything -
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
6:15 pm
josef,
How many Hindu temples in Atlanta? Did you say the..?
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
6:18 pm
Koch Industries is as American as Perdue chicken or Sara Lee
Apple Pie…..
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
6:19 pm
Paul, I too was wondering how that obsequious Hoosier would act around him!
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/_/1/saddam_rummy.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ZKIX0ICZo
Paulo977
February 21st, 2011
6:19 pm
josef “No small part of this, whether or not we want to admit it, is coming from his new stance foreign policy.” …meaning what?
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:24 pm
frog
from wikipedia…
“The BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir Atlanta in adjacent Lilburn, Georgia is currently the largest Hindu temple in the world outside of India. It is one of approximately 15 Hindu temples in the metro Atlanta area.”
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
6:26 pm
josef,
those obsequious mound builders, hoping to influence the gods
to grant them the american dream of successful commerce by
assembling huge piles of dirt, silly indians….
El Jefe
February 21st, 2011
6:26 pm
So much for mob rule (democracy). Long live the republic.
And yes, for those in mid-town, there is a big difference.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
6:27 pm
AmVet
February 10th, 2011
7:42 pm
…regarding
EgyptLibya…They all know the real deal in these countries.
Poverty, desperation, hunger, pretty much everywhere.
They just pray it doesn’t explode under their watch.
It’s just a matter of time.
My supposition is that which prez is in the White House or which foreign policy is being used, matters little..
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:28 pm
PAULO
As I said further on, much of his Cairo speech dealing with our new approach to the Mid East and Islaam had to do with our encouraging those societies to see our direction under Obama to be something other than the same old, same old of supporting dictators serving our interests…
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2011
6:28 pm
“Have you seen the HIndu temple on 29? The beautiful synagogues and Mosques in America You pick one item and make it a symbol. Narrow vision.”
Last time I checked Hindu Temples, synagogues and mosques were not CHRISTIAN symbols
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:28 pm
Dems are shooting themselves in the foot. Change is actually afoot, they’re not part of it, and they don’t understand it.
Heavily Democratic states cut in half since 2008: Gallup
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Hope and Change has struck the Democratic Party in a big — and unexpected — way. Gallup analyzes its poll data from 2010 on party affiliation to look at the shift in each state, and the news is almost uniformly bad for Democrats. Almost every state has had a decrease in voter affiliation for Democrats, most of those significant, and the number of solidly-blue states has been cut in half:
Gallup’s analysis of party affiliation in the U.S. states shows a marked decline in the number of solidly Democratic states from 2008 (30) to 2010 (14). The number of politically competitive states increased over the same period, from 10 to 18, with more limited growth in the number of leaning or solidly Republican states. …
Even with Democratic Party affiliation declining during the past two years, Democratic states still outnumbered Republican states by 23 to 10 last year, and there were 14 solidly Democratic states compared with 5 solidly Republican states. …
Looking more closely at the changes in state party affiliation since 2008, only one state moved from a Democratic positioning to a Republican positioning — New Hampshire, which was solidly Democratic in 2008 but now is considered leaning Republican. Alabama, Kansas, Montana, and South Dakota moved from a competitive designation to solidly or leaning Republican status. A total of 12 states — Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Maine, Missouri, Nevada, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wisconsin — shifted from solidly or leaning Democratic to competitive. No states have moved in a more Democratic direction since 2008. (A listing of each state’s classification for 2008, 2009, and 2010 is available on page 2 of this report.)
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/21/heavily-democratic-states-cut-in-half-since-2008-gallup/
Uh oh.
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
6:29 pm
josef,
I guess the big three dropped the ball on those motels and
convenience stores…..
Paul
February 21st, 2011
6:30 pm
“My supposition is that which prez is in the White House or which foreign policy is being used, matters little..”
Sounds like someone spent quite a bit of time out of the country and doesn’t think, as many Americans do, that everything revolves around us or is caused by us, or concerns us, or….
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:31 pm
Obama is too far left for America. Unless he pulls of a grand BS PR campaign and hoodwinks America into thinking he’s moderate again (possible), the guy is going to lose 2012.
@@
February 21st, 2011
6:34 pm
Those mercenaries being sent to Libya? Unconfirmed reports say they’re Ukranian pilots flying Libyan MiGs. The source claims the Italian mafia is also assisting the regime of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi and that boats operated by Italians have attacked demonstrators in Benghazi and Tripoli.
It’s in Italy’s best interest that Gadhafi remain in power. Not only are they heavily invested in Libya’s oil sector, they’re concerned about the rise of an Islamic emirate on their border.
Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said Feb. 21 that he is “extremely concerned about the self-proclamation of the so-called Islamic Emirate of Benghazi,” adding that such a regime on the borders of Europe would be a serious threat.
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14856872,00.html
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
6:34 pm
He is a muderous, psychopath, buffoon in a self-designed uniform.
I would love to have five uniterrupted minutes in a room with him.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:37 pm
frog
@ 6:29
jm
Frankly, in my opinion, President Obama is too centrist for the right and left wing dogmatists…
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
6:37 pm
jm @6:31, just keep telling yourself that!
(There’s no place like home, there’s no place like home, there’s no place like home…)
Paul, uh oh!
Sounds like your doing you worldwide apology tour! LOL!
OK, off to the Sweatatorium of Pain.
I’ll check in later…
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:38 pm
@@
Not to mention Libya was an Italian colony…
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
6:38 pm
Headline: “Undercover agent slips through DFW security with gun in bra”
Oh, that’s great. Let’s just announce it to every terrorist out there.
RW-(the original)
February 21st, 2011
6:38 pm
I see the Libyan ambassador is begging Obama to make a statement. Now I do find it curious how sometimes Obama’s like a jack in the box making statements and sometimes he can’t be bothered to say anything, but what exactly could he say that would make any difference?
Paul
February 21st, 2011
6:40 pm
“but what exactly could he say that would make any difference?”
That we guarantee safe passage for him and his blonde personal assistant?
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
6:40 pm
jm 6:31 Obama may not be so far left but just not far enough right…
Romney appears to be embarking on a feel good campaign as Jay
said recently that he has the ability to engender trust and if he can
portray enough fiscal responsibility he may make a race of it.
El Jefe
February 21st, 2011
6:41 pm
Obama is too centralist? LOL!
Compared to Stalin, yes, I agree.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
6:41 pm
Sounds like the Middle East is having an “all skate” !
@@
February 21st, 2011
6:42 pm
josef:
Frankly, in my opinion, President Obama is too centrist for the right and left wing dogmatists
I’m not buying that….not after having witnessed his domestic policies over the last two years. For him foreign policy and national security seem like inconvenient distractions. It’s all about the homefront and transforming America.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:42 pm
PAUL
There is a lot of truth to waht you say, but let’s not lose sight of the fact that when things DO get out of hand, “they” come wanting us to intervene and straighten things out…and that’s not me being jingoistic…
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
6:42 pm
To my untrained eye- it looks like things in the Middle East are going to be heating up for quite a while. It’s a mine field, of sorts.
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:43 pm
jonix 6:37 – you’re correct that he’s not popular with the far left because he hasn’t executed on his promises (Guantanamo, Iraq, etc.). But that doesn’t make him a centrist.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
6:43 pm
Heard this today:
“Most Universities in the U.S. today are Leftist Seminaries”
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
6:43 pm
Obama is too far left for America.
The only thing left about Obama is the party he represents. He is nowhere near far left. Maybe it seems that way for someone who’s sitting on the far right. However, for those in the center or moderates on either side would not see him as a far left president.
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:44 pm
Hillbilly – agreed. gotta go long oil…. could get messy. S.A. is the 64 Trillion question…
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:46 pm
Love me some Government. Let’s have more!!!!
Uncle Sam: Jacking up your airfare
February 21, 2011 5:00 am
It’s hard to defend all the fees that airlines charge, but it sure is easy to get mad at all the taxes the government tacks on.
By Becky Quick, contributor
Which item do you think has the most federal taxes and fees attached to it: (1) a can of Budweiser, (2) a carton of Marlboro Reds, (3) a Smith & Wesson Centennial revolver, or (4) a roundtrip airline ticket from Chicago to St. Louis?
If you guessed the beer, cigarettes, or gun, you’d be wrong. Federal taxes and fees tally up to about 5% for the beer, 18.2% for the cigarettes, and 10% for the revolver. But buying an airline ticket pushes the boundaries of government taxation, initiating a slew of taxes and fees most of us never knew existed — a passenger ticket tax, a flight segment tax, a frequent-flier tax, a cargo waybill tax, a commercial jet fuel tax, and a 9/11 fee, just to name a few. I recently found a reasonably priced fare of just $151 for that roundtrip ticket to St. Louis. But tack on the fees and taxes and the total price came to $185.80, a markup of more than 20%.
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/02/21/uncle-sam-jacking-up-your-airfare/
jconservative
February 21st, 2011
6:46 pm
Shame Reagan did not take him out when he ordered the airstrike.
Maybe another airstrike?
But where? Reports are that Gadhafi has gone into hiding.
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:48 pm
Ay yes, where’s that old adage. All those other transportation forms are subsidized, but not rail…. wait a sec….
But the bigger problem with all of these taxes is that they’re not being used for what they should be: rebuilding and shoring up our air traffic control system, which is woefully out of date. The current system has been around since the 1960s. “Your car has more navigation technology in it than most airplanes,” says Richard Anderson, the CEO of Delta Air Lines (DAL) and the new chairman of the Air Transport Association. “Everybody’s car has a GPS system, but most airlines still use altimeters and compasses.” (Lawmakers in Washington are mulling a bill to reauthorize the Federal Aviation Administration that would include funding for modernization, but final passage has been plagued by, well, delays. At least the airlines know how we feel.)
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
6:50 pm
jm 6:48 Don’t the airlines issue the crew cellphones with GPS..?
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:51 pm
Obama went into office appealing to the left centrists. The GOP gains in the mid term elections came from their appealing to the right centrists.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:53 pm
As for the Mid East…the United States and the EU will come down on the side of whoever can best keep the oil flowing…
Paul
February 21st, 2011
6:53 pm
josef nix
“when things DO get out of hand, “they” come wanting us to intervene and straighten things out”
“and when we do they turn on us for interfering.”
No good deed goes unpunished.
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
6:54 pm
0311, do the Leftist Seminaries award BS degrees?
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
6:55 pm
All those other transportation forms are subsidized, but not rail
Railroads have enjoyed government subsidies and breaks, almost since day 1. The Transcontinental Railroad wasn’t built by private capitalists trying to make a buck, it was subsidized by the Federal government, for a variety of reasons. And the railroads were given millions of acres of free land, a lot of which they sold, across the West. In some places, they got free land 10 miles either side of the track.
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:55 pm
The Wisconsin Union and Dems are screwed. They’re going to lose, and lose big time. And Walker isn’t going to “win the battle, lose the war”.
Time’s are a’changin. Time to catch up dems.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/260222/walker-holds-his-ground-robert-costa
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
6:57 pm
PAUL
Yep. Of course, I’m a left wing isolationist!
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:58 pm
Hillbilly Delux 6:55 – cause at that time the land was cheeeeeeap.
jm
February 21st, 2011
6:59 pm
Walker tells NRO that Obama should butt out. “The president of the United States should worry more about balancing the federal budget, which he certainly isn’t doing right now,” he says. “Whether it’s him, or these national political leaders busing people in, we are not going to be intimidated by people from outside the state of Wisconsin.”
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehah
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:00 pm
jm
@ 6:56
And them pesky red-skinned savages wasn’t doin’ nothin’ with it!
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:01 pm
Just my opinion, but Wisconsin is a distraction…
What jm left out
February 21st, 2011
7:03 pm
If only Sarah Palin were in charge. She’d know what to do.
barking frog
February 21st, 2011
7:03 pm
josef 7:00
they had it covered in buffaoes that needed to be de-tongued
for eating pleasure…
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:05 pm
josef nix 7:00 pm – well that’s a whole nother issue. Maybe the Indians should sue the French for falsely engaging in a contract on land they were not authorized to sell….
Scout it out
February 21st, 2011
7:07 pm
Headline: “Undercover agent slips through DFW security with gun in bra”
We don’t have rules for checking man-bras or those man-bags that those FOX guys like to carry around.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
7:07 pm
“If only Sarah Palin were in charge. She’d know what to do.”
With Qaddafi?
http://tinyurl.com/55mvzd
and it coulda’ been the new Special Forces uniform, too….oh well…..
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
7:08 pm
cause at that time the land was cheeeeeeap.
When it was given to them it was cheap, it wasn’t cheap when they sold it. They made tons of money off of it.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
7:08 pm
“We don’t have rules for checking man-bras or those man-bags that those FOX guys like to carry around.”
Now, there’s a first. Homophobia from the Liberal Left -
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
7:09 pm
(Lawmakers in Washington are mulling a bill to reauthorize the Federal Aviation Administration that would include funding for modernization, but final passage has been plagued by, well, delays. At least the airlines know how we feel.)
Delays my ass. Call it for what it is. Passage is delayed by the GOP cutting the budget. Airlines wanted deregulation, and so they got it. Maybe they would get subsidized if they were regulated. As the old saying goes, be careful of what you ask for because you just might get it.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:10 pm
frog
Tongue? Bleeeeah! Try as I might, I just can’t eat it!
jm
But at 10 cents an acre and only a few deeds to regularize down in the Lower Mississippi Valley, a deal you just couldn’t pass up…my question, though, has always been, why did the Washington government set out to populate that expanse of “free” terrritory with blonde, blue-eyed Nordics…
Gen. Buck Turgidson
February 21st, 2011
7:12 pm
Libya is light years more important geopolitically than Afghanistan. Libs have oil, Afghans have poppies. We should redeploy our troops to Libya to support Gadhafi if his own forces can’t control the mobs. We must protect the oil. Like in Iraq.
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
7:12 pm
why did the Washington government set out to populate that expanse of “free” terrritory with blonde, blue-eyed Nordics…
Could it be for the same reason the powers that be have always looked to bring in large groups of immigrants, to offset rising labor costs, when the law of supply and demand isn’t working to your advantage?
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:16 pm
Hillbilly
True. But they was awfully white and down in Uncle Sam’s Oldest Colony there were about 4,000,000 andless darker hued, native born, English speakers…oh, well, I guess you would have had to have been there, eh?
Paul
February 21st, 2011
7:16 pm
Scout it out
First 45 seconds. Learn something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y6IC9ecRIo&feature=related
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:17 pm
Well, let’s be honest here. If you go back far enough, the Indians were immigrants too. I’m not saying they didn’t get a (very) raw deal. But I do get tired of the “we’re all immigrants” thing….
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:18 pm
Oil is sh-tting a brick. $4 a gallon, here we come.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
7:18 pm
Undercover agent slips through DFW security with gun in bra
Care to post a link with the story? All I see is links on blogs without any story to go along with the headline.
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:18 pm
If Obama intended to fulfill Bowles’s and Simpson’s hopes, you’d also expect to find him speaking with some sense of urgency. “But what I think is important to do is not discount the tough choices that are required just to stabilize the situation,” Obama told reporters last Tuesday. “My goal is, is that a year from now or two years from now, people look back and say, you know what, we actually started making progress on this issue.”
“Started making progress” can mean different things to different people. But a year from now, the presidential primary season will be well underway. Two years from now, Obama could be out of office. If progress isn’t made soon, it’s not likely, at least in his first term.
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
7:20 pm
josef @ 7:16
Yeah, a tad two-faced on that, some of them were.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:20 pm
PAUL
@ 7:16
You jus’ plumb bad…
RW-(the original)
February 21st, 2011
7:21 pm
SoCo,
Here you go
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:22 pm
jm
Granddaddy’s lesson number #2…”the history of mankind is determined by the mass migrations of peoples…”
@@
February 21st, 2011
7:24 pm
A boy in a dress.
A transvestite.
A transexual.
What about cross-dressers?
I don’t get it….I just don’t get it.
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
7:26 pm
RW @ 7:21
From the scan of that guy, he looks for all the world like Mr. Wrestling II.
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:27 pm
In fact, if the “hard choices” he likes to talk about involve compromising in any way his political prospects or spending his political popularity to achieve fiscal sanity, there’s zero evidence so far. His budget contains a few token cuts (10 percent in community development block grants, a couple billion dollars in heating-oil subsidies that will most discomfit Republican senators from New England) that allow him to claim a centrist mantle. To the extent he achieves operating balance, it’s with the usual gimmicks: a rosy economic forecast; cuts that stretch over 10 years – past even a second term – to pay for spending during the next two. A magical pot of money for transportation, with no mention of its source. His State of the Union address was a campaign speech about contrast, not cooperation: Democrats want to win the future; Republicans want to starve it.
So here’s the hope: A bipartisan group of senators, led by Mark Warner (D-Va.) and Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), comes up with a plausible plan for serious deficit reduction – and Obama decides that hitching his wagon to it might help him in 2012. It might not fit the definition of leadership, but it now seems like the only chance for progress in the next two years.
Obama the follower. We elected a follower to President. Laaaaame.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
7:29 pm
josef nix
yeah, well…. still love that movie!
@@
Answer’s at the 40-second mark.
“Latin” is situation specific.
Big picture. Think Statfor.
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:29 pm
Obama has redefined POTUS. The Political Prostitute of the United States of America. I look forward to that announcement at the beginning of the next State of the Union. But I feel bad for the Sargeant at Arms, having to introduce such a pathetic figure.
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2011
7:32 pm
Did Redneck miss getting that delivery of Boones Farm to Dusty on schedule. You know how she gets, Redneck.
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2011
7:34 pm
What y’all talking about that lapdog, Saxby, for. Is he being called up to do his little bit for Imperial Sugar again or someone else this time.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:34 pm
PAUL
I preferred “Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.” That scene at Uluru..”…just what Australian needs, a c*ck in a frock on a rock…”
@@
February 21st, 2011
7:34 pm
Paul:
josef’s gay. I’m straight.
Neither of us understand it.
The way I look at it You either IS or you ISN’T okay with who and what you are. No need to dress it up OR down.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:35 pm
jm
Every POTUS from Adams forward has been a political prostitute…it’s the nature of the game…
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
7:36 pm
RW
Thanks, I had found that same one after clicking a few links from google..
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:37 pm
Daniels, daniels, daniels.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/21/daniels_and_christie_light_fuse_under_gop_lawmakers_108965.html
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2011
7:38 pm
“No need to dress it up OR down
Do you ever wear trousers?
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:38 pm
@@
Yep. I’ve got no problem with the impersonator-performer and the stage show…can’t for the life of me recall that Colombian actor’s name right now, but a good example of “drag queen” versus all those others…As a stage show, okay. but otherwise…I just don’t get it…
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2011
7:38 pm
It sure is nice to have a real president for a change instead of that Bush. I’m looking forward to voting for President Obama for a second term. I wonder if McCain will win the Republican primary again.
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:38 pm
jonix 7:35 – don’t know about that. Ok, gotta get a few more things done, then I gotta get out of here (work).
Despite Mick thinking I’m corrupt for defrauding my employer by spending time on the internet. At work. On a holiday. Until 8pm.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2011
7:42 pm
The oil has not stopped flowing yet. And gas has not reached the $4 mark. Just wait. All of this unrest will give OPEC the needed excuse to squeeze gazillions of more dollars out of us for our gluttony of fossil fuels. The biggest prize in the ME is Saudi Arabia. Virtually unprotected, at the head of line for tyranny and an old family of aristocrats just waiting to be plucked out of the system. Then what happens? Oil to the highest bidder. We just have to hope that whoever takes over the govt of the oil rich countries in the ME have some compassion for the West. Does that sound like a pipe dream? Probably. Israel is a player in this game…. don’t forget Israel. Although Bozo keeps Bebe waiting while he has dinner, Bebe is not a patient man. Maybe Nostrademus was right.
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:43 pm
If the stock market goes up tomorrow, call me shocked. If that happens, it means we’re about to go stratospheric with inflation (asset inflation and commodities).
@@
February 21st, 2011
7:43 pm
Doggone:
Do you ever wear trousers?
Can’t say that I do. Never been able to find a pair long enough.
schnirt
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:44 pm
I will have to send money to Walker for re-election…. this is just fantastic.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 21st, 2011
7:45 pm
Did Redneck miss getting that delivery of Boones Farm to Dusty on schedule. You know how she gets, Redneck.
Well, I don’t haul the cheap stuff–not even for Sister Dusty. We got standards. It’s got to be at least the quality of PBR to get on my truck.
So Sister Dusty gets a little cranky when she can’t find her cheap wine. How can you tell the difference? I mean, most of the time she’ll bite your head off anyway. She’s only happy when she’s gnawing a Burger King Whopper.
Have a good night everybody and don’t talk about me while I’m sleeping.
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
7:47 pm
With what is going on in the Mid-East, gas prices will go up whether OPEC raises prices or not. After all, when Hurricane Katrina hit, prices sky-rocketed the next day, even though that gas was already in the pipeline.
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:47 pm
exactly
“You have shut down the people’s government, and that’s not acceptable,” Fitzgerald said of the Democrats.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49919.html#ixzz1Ee0HLSrC
jm
February 21st, 2011
7:48 pm
Arrogant Elitist Democrats think they know better how to spend hard working Americans money than they do themselves. Hard working American voters know differently.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:50 pm
Kayaker
Bibi and Barry have long since worked out their deal, on that you can bet your last shekel and barrel of oil…
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2011
7:50 pm
Despite Mick thinking I’m corrupt for defrauding my employer by spending time on the internet.
jm is using someone else’s resources to play around on the Internet. The shock! Our IT dept. tracked down the slackers where I worked and canned ‘em for their improper use of company resources.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
7:52 pm
josef nix
Saw’em both. Prefer To Wong Foo. Just had more pizzazz. And the changing attitudes in small town America metaphor.
@@
Just seemed not many had much to offer on Iraq. I liked Swayze in it. Read once he said he wanted the part because of memories of kids chasing him and throwing rocks as he walked home from his mom’s dance studio.
Read an article today by a Tufts poli-sci guy regarding Friedman/Stratfor. Wasn’t all that positive. Frankly, I think the guy was ticked Friedman’s books outsell his.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:53 pm
jm
Democrats, GOP–spend money you don’t have on bail outs
Hard Working Americans–spend money you don’t have on credit cards
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:56 pm
PAUL
Preferred Priscilla…it was grittier. What can I say, though, I like Angst!
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
7:56 pm
Arrogant Elitist Democrats think they know better how to spend hard working Americans money than they do themselves. Hard working American voters know differently.
That’s an awful arrogant statement to make. The same could be said about arrogant elitest Republicans. Too bad you have your blinders on to realize that neither party gives a crap about the majority of hard working Americans.
Tommy Maddox
February 21st, 2011
7:56 pm
Hey Dusty just wait – someone will claim that.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2011
7:58 pm
Joseph,
Perhaps, but Bebe seems abandoned. If left to his own devices, there is no telling what he might do to protect Israel. They will not go down, at least not without a huge whimper. And when the chips are down and the one ally that we depend on most in the ME is shoved aside, we will be on our own with all of these despots. And left with Bozo to lead us. How’s that for a no win scenario.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
7:58 pm
@@
Thought about you last p.m. You know how they’re always coming down on you hereabouts for citing Stratfor? CNN had a Stratfor on as their informed source on Libya last p.m. (Lemon)
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
8:02 pm
Kayaker…
Obama’s “shoving aside” was, imho, just so much rhetoric to placate the left anti-Israel contingent and throw the Arab dog a bone…Israel will, as it always has, do our dirty work for us. We’ll come out with a lot of condemnatory words, and the policy will not change…
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
8:09 pm
Uh oh well, just listening to folks running down the USA and the presidents, past & present, and anybody that has worked in upper echelon government. and we do anything for oil or money and on and on…
TAXPAYER can’t you get anything straight? I love that delightful and delectable Manichevitz. Boone Farm? Not familiar with it. That stuff Redneck delivers would kill a cat quicker than anti-freeze. Or cause brain damage. For that last reason, I conclude that. many here do enjoy that ol’ RedNeck stuff he SUPPOSEDLY delivers. Actually he lives near the clubhouse on the golf course. A gated mini-mansion man of means–with pink flamingos of course… As granny says, bless his heart!!
Paul
February 21st, 2011
8:09 pm
josef nix
“Preferred Priscilla…it was grittier. What can I say, though, I like Angst!”
I’ll take up the slack with Incurable Romantic.
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
8:12 pm
Tommy Maddox….go hide your head…
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
8:13 pm
You know how they’re always coming down on you hereabouts for citing Stratfor?
Like I said earlier today, the definition of a credible source is one that supports the position you already have. If it goes against your position, then the source isn’t credible.
I’ve always found Stratfor fairly interesting, it’s like anybody else, look at it with a skeptical eye.
outsider
February 21st, 2011
8:15 pm
It will be interesting to see how everything plays out in the ME. Ghadafi is no different than Stalin.
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
8:19 pm
Well, I thought most folks liked @@’s news reports. Keeps us up to date. Guess I’m not here 24/7.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2011
8:19 pm
Joseph,
It has to change. Things are heating up over there. What oil rich country is going to be our friend? Certainly not Egypt. Certainly not Iran. Maybe Chavez. Maybe Iraq but the dust has not settled on that yet. That leaves the Saudis and the Kuwaitis. The key thing in this that Bozo has to solve is the price of oil. That keeps him in a second term. That’s the only dog we have in this hunt. We could care less about the future of the poor people of Libya. Just keep the oil coming….. and at a good price so we get politicians re- elected. I would like to think that W had a say in what is happening in the ME. But it is too soon to say. Wonder if they threw out the Muslim brotherhood and had free elections and ….. but that is a pipe dream, n’est-ce pas?
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2011
8:20 pm
“It will be interesting to see how everything plays out in the ME. Ghadafi is no different than Stalin”
Yes, it will be. Yesterday before Saif Ghadaffi spoke they were reporting the the RUMOR (they emphasized that) in Libya was that Moammar had left the country. I never heard anything more about that rumor afterwards.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
8:24 pm
I can see a lot of people dying in the ME. It’s not going to be a pretty picture. I don’t think any other country will have the outcome that Egypt had. Mubarak was hard, but he was nowhere near hardcore like the other leaders over there.
Kamchak
February 21st, 2011
8:25 pm
I would like to think that W had a say in what is happening in the ME.
No doubt.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
8:25 pm
I honestly think most of the BHO loathing here is just thinly disguised self loathing.
And had I the lack of sanity to vote for George even once (much less twice), I’d probably look for every imaginable bogey man to make me feel better about that Grade A, industrial strength, major league, unrivaled f&ck up of a mistake in judgment too!
Sorry boys, as bad as Barry is, he’s not only not on the same level as George, he’s not even in the same building yet.
Quit deflecting, grow up and own it…
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
8:25 pm
KAYAKER
One of the things that has intrigued me in all this is that so many of those on the streets are making it clear that they are not motivated by Islamacism. I think that the Brotherhood and the like have gotten the message that, as far as the masses are concerned and especially in the more highly educated societies (Egypt and Tunisia) they are seen as not having delivered very much in “throwing off the yoke.” We’ll see how that plays out…
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2011
8:27 pm
It’s amazing how these paper dictators crumble in the face of public unrest. Only took 18 da in Egypt. Might take awhile longer in Yemen, Syria, Libya….. the big question is what all of this means. And they are sitting on the oil that we need to prime our economy. Maybe W was right. Maybe all it took was a spark. I’d sure to think so.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
8:29 pm
AmVet
Rule #1: Blame someone else.
Rule #2: If you had a part in it, repeat Rule #1.
josef nix
“they are seen as not having delivered very much in “throwing off the yoke.”
I’d guess seen as replacing one yoke with another.
But of course, then the line becomes “but the Brotherhood is clever, they look long-range, this is their chance…”
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
8:31 pm
KAYAKER
You said”I would like to think that W had a say in what is happening in the MidEast.” Like what? That Bush got rid of one of the only missing dictators in the Middle East?
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
8:31 pm
My view of things in Egypt is a little different than most people’s. From what I’ve seen, the military is in control. So that may lead to an orderly transition and a civilian government, which may or may not be to our liking, or we may look up twenty years from now and see that the military is still in control. It’s too early to be reaching for the chips, just yet.
@@
February 21st, 2011
8:34 pm
Stratfor is nothing more than strategic or geopolitical analysis. They definitely know where the players are and offer speculation as to what they may be up to.
In almost every article, they’ll refer you back to previous articles, some will take me back years. Take that year’s, this year’s and anything in between. Put them together and VOILA….connect the dots.
Major players and strategic interests. Fascinating!
Can’t call ‘em right-wing. They seem to have ZERO interest in politics per se. Like me, they probably see politics as child’s play.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
8:38 pm
@@
Remember those articles cited during the primaries/election – tracked the historical path of the parties, then of the activists, then said what a President McCain or Obama would likely do?
And how the Left, in particular, heaped derision?
Maybe that explains why so many love to live in the moment? Any self analysis of what was said in the past is just too embarrassing?
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2011
8:38 pm
Dusty,
No, it goes a lot further than that. Bush had a vision, like it or not, that there was some hope for democracy in the ME. After reading his book, “Decisions”, he may have been right. I am not sure that his motives were as pure as they should have been in the beginning but as things evolved, it took on a different spin. And I am not so sure that that was all bad. Things get done because good men act. History will have to determine whether or not he was right but history is rearing it’s ugly head as we speak.
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2011
8:41 pm
Sounds like all we need to do to resolve all the problems in the middle east is get @@ and her sniper rifle a airplane ticket. Maybe she could dress up her rifle to look like a skinny fella and sneak him on board.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
8:42 pm
Hillbilly
I would agree with you on Egypt. The military there has a pretty good reputation in the general population, Mubarak notwithstanding. They are aware that to preserve that image, it will be necessary to move toward civilian government, but with a strong military presence. Played right, it could be a win-win situation. It remains to be seen if their leadership is up to the challenge, both the military and the civillian. If they can capitalize on the good will and carpiet diem…
AmVet
This is the secularists’ moment…again, it remains to be seen if they seize it…most likely, in Tunisia, a bit more iffy in Egypt…it won’t happen in Bahrain. Yemen is, well, Yemen. Morocco, I hope, will capitalize on its moderate traditions. Libya…? Who knows…
@@
February 21st, 2011
8:44 pm
Paul:
Maybe that explains why so many love to live in the moment? Any self analysis of what was said in the past is just too embarrassing?
So true. The fewer words spoken, the less chance they’ll come back to bite the ass or hand that feeds. It’s best to say what you mean and mean what you say.
@@
February 21st, 2011
8:46 pm
Taxpayer:
I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn from 10 feet away.
@@
February 21st, 2011
8:47 pm
Question.
Is John R. Commons the fella that started the labor movement in Wisconsin?
@@
February 21st, 2011
8:48 pm
Make that John Roger Commons?
Del
February 21st, 2011
8:48 pm
AmVet, why does it need to be “BHO loathing”? Loathing and hatred to me as it pertains to a president is so far removed from the personal contact that for most it would almost seem border line insanity to loath the person. Excuse the reference but it seemed to me that many on the left loathed/hated George W. Bush. Why even today though he’s out of office, some still vilify him to the point of almost insane hatred. Conservative by and large don’t hate, we just disagree with Obama and believe he’s not good for America as our president.
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
8:49 pm
Well, Kayaker,
One of the first things I heard about Egypt’s disruption was the thought that they too desired to be free which is one way of saying democracy. While there is hate for us in some parts of the MIddle East, I think there is still a world view that America is the bastion of freedom. Why do so many people try to get here one way or another just to enjoy the benefits of our republic?
I think we forget our own privilege of democracy by constant griping, political complaints, and downgrading our own country. Appreciation is almost invisible. The only time it is noticable is when someone sings the Star Spangled Banner at a ball game. Then they notice. On a blog? Only the negative.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
8:52 pm
TaxPayer
“I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn from 10 feet away.”
Yeah, but her stilettos are deadlier than Ninja darts!
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
8:53 pm
“Liberals wake up in the morning thinking it’s tomorrow. Conservatives wake up in the morning thinking it’s yesterday.” –Unmentionable
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
8:55 pm
Libya…? Who knows…
My guess is that the only chance they have is to get some of the military on their side. If the military stays united against them, I don’t see much hope for them throwing off the shackles. And even if they do get some of the military to stand with them, it may wind up being just an exchange of shackles.
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2011
8:55 pm
I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn from 10 feet away.
You should move about seven feet closer before swinging it next time.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
8:57 pm
Rule #1: Blame someone else.
Rule #2: If you had a part in it, repeat Rule #1.
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2011
9:02 pm
I bet Rambo Jimmy could clean up the middle east in no time.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
9:03 pm
Scouthern Comfort:
Are you not taking my word for it?
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-beat/TSA-Agent-Slips-Through-DFW-Body-Scanner-With-a-Gun-116497568.html
@@
February 21st, 2011
9:04 pm
Taxpayer:
You should move about seven feet closer before swinging it next time.
Hitting a baseball? THAT, I’m good at!!!!
Better than most of the guys I know.
Del
February 21st, 2011
9:04 pm
Dusty, I believe a big problem we have is a president and an administration that fails to project leadership in the world. It’s been the left wings mantra to apologize for America and unfortunately Mr. Obama is of that persuasion. Since he’s taken office, Obama hasn’t projected strength and the rest of the world, friends and enemies alike have lost respect for what we stand for as a country. Therefore we command little respect much less creditability in world affairs. Anyone who believes Obama is not of the far left wing is either kidding themselves or trying to kid other people who know a helluva lot more than they do.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
9:04 pm
SoCo
Gotcha!
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
9:04 pm
@@
For $19.95 plus shipping and handling, you can order my dvd guide to the perfect shot. In a matter of minutes, you’ll not only be able to hit the broad side of a barn, but you’ll also be able to hit the narrow side too. If you act now, we’ll throw in a second dvd guide that will teach you how to hide the bodies when you’re done. This offer won’t last forever. You get 2 dvds valued at over $60 separately for the low, low price of $19.99 plus shipping and handling. Operators are standing by for your call.
ISH
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
9:07 pm
AmVet
In case you might be looking for a job.
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/dreamjob/index.jsp
I would apply but I don’t want to live in NYC and I probably couldn’t pass the background check, anyway.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
9:08 pm
Del
I disagree. Obama is not far left. He’s left centrist. And even there, no further left than what in another society would be a Social Democrat or a Christian Socialist. That’s just my opinion looking at him, as I do, from the farther left…
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
9:08 pm
“State orders Detroit to close half its schools”
And you libs. think Wisconsin is bad? When do the mobs go to Detroit?
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/#ixzz1EeKhzBly
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
9:09 pm
Agent 03
I posted to RW @ 7:36 that I had found it. I’ve been looking to see if that was on the old software or if it was using the new “generic body outline” software. Can’t find anything here, so I’ll probably have to ask around tomorrow. I’m not a real big fan of reliance on technology too much. If you know how it works, technology can be defeated or circumvented.
josef nix
February 21st, 2011
9:09 pm
Gotta run…rough week this week at work…
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
9:10 pm
hmmmm
Liberals wake up in the morning with a hangover of hubris..
Conservaties wake up in the morning with the surety of sunshine.
–Anonymous–
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
9:11 pm
josef:
You know I respect your opinions but I must jump in here. Obama is as far left as any president the United States has ever had and then take two more steps left into the “radical zone”.
His ideology is harmful to this country.
Del
February 21st, 2011
9:11 pm
josef, I’ll take your word for it but if you’re further left than Obama then welcome to the right because you’ve come full circle assuming the worlds round.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
9:13 pm
Southern Comfort :
I hear you. I forgot you were TSA.
You know there is still a very, very major security gap at the airport …………. right ?
I just don’t want to say what it is on here.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
9:15 pm
I forgot you were TSA. As in the past tense.
I could probably give you a few, but this isn’t the place for that type of discussion.
Del
February 21st, 2011
9:18 pm
0311, regarding security gap…will the general public be made aware of it and more importantly will it be fixed? We’re flying out of the country in August to Southeast Asia.
Disgusted
February 21st, 2011
9:19 pm
Dusty, I believe a big problem we have is a president and an administration that fails to project leadership in the world.
Yes, Del. What we really need is a Mitt administration—somebody who has never held office above the post of governor but has been to the ME four times and therefore knows everything about it. Or maybe a Mitch Daniels, Haley Barbour, or Newt Gingrich. The world would tremble with respect. You and Scout are a real trip–you know? Did you struggle to pass basic civics?
@@
February 21st, 2011
9:21 pm
SoCo:
No thanks. Guns are too loud.
I went target shooting once. I tended to close my eyes while pulling the trigger. It was as though I wouldn’t hear it if my eyes were closed. Beats covering my ears while pulling the trigger.
(ISH)
I’m pretty hopeless when it comes to firearms.
Del
February 21st, 2011
9:23 pm
Disgusted, I’ve gone far beyond basic civics as a senior citizen of the world whose traveled around it several times. I hope you’re enjoying your senior year in high school and wish you much success in your pursuits.
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
9:23 pm
I’m pretty hopeless when it comes to firearms.
When it comes to barns, it’s pretty simple, point and shoot. (IW&SH)
buck@gon
February 21st, 2011
9:24 pm
TaxPayer,
“This is what the Republicans said they wanted, isn’t it. To plant the seeds of democracy in the middle east. Or was that just BushSpeak.
Let’s see what sprouts from those seeds. Meanwhile, I’m keeping an eye out for ways to reduce my use of fossil fuels even more. Solar cells to charge car batteries might be a wise investment.”
The idea that America in Iraq has anything to do with the Middle East coming apart is beyond reason. If this is all America’s fault, then one must wonder why on earth Iraq is not coming apart?
It is easy to see from your post to this solemn news that you and many others need some enlightenment. Your trite observations about solar cells and fossil fuels in light of poor analysis of history make me want to get down on my knees and pray for you, your understanding and for so many people in this country who seem to think that utopia lies just over the hill of solar power, easy government pensions, free healthcare and trimming the military.
Utopia means literally, nowhere. We must live in this world, TaxPayer.
@@
February 21st, 2011
9:25 pm
I could get some of those ear thingies though.
I can see it now…a burglar breaks into the house and not only am I rushing to find the gun, I’ve gotta put my ear thingies on too.
I’d probably shoot myself in the process.
buck@gon
February 21st, 2011
9:26 pm
“What we really need is a Mitt administration—somebody who has never held office above the post of governor”
Disgusted,
Just so.
So, Obama, with his four years in the Senate had executive and leadership that none of the governors have?
Please see my post to Tax Payer above. It applies liberally around here.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
9:27 pm
Del, thanks for the response.
I don’t see any difference.
I think there is a tiny handful that actually do abhor these men.
Most of us just b!tch about them, but that’s it. No malice.
Immediately after 9/11, I said that I was so thankful that nothing happened to the President. Even though I was no fan of his. But had they killed him, it would have been a hundred times worse for me.
And I suspect for most decent Americans.
HD @9:07,
Wow!
That would be something, huh?
Eating, drinking and sleeping baseball! (Baseball bin beddy beddy good to me!)
Maybe thirty years ago, I’d have considered it…
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
9:27 pm
“If 16 years doesn’t give you a little bit of insurance experience, I don’t know what does,” Oxendine said. “I think that’s (worth) a little bit more than taking a test and taking a class.”
The guy has gall, if nothing else.
http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/home/headlines/Ga_insurance_chief_issued_himself_license_116614428.html
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
9:28 pm
Del
I’m inclined to agree with you. Obama was far left in almost all activities before he became president. Now he tries to repudiate that reputation by being moderately left. It comes across as indecisive, vacillating in the “wishy-washy”. He does not project strength or determination, something a president really needs.
Disgusted
February 21st, 2011
9:29 pm
I hope you’re enjoying your senior year in high school and wish you much success in your pursuits.
I was in the Marine Corps while you were still filling a diaper abundantly. Don’t presume to tell me how “senior” you are.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
9:29 pm
@@
If it’s the sound that bothers you, this one would probably work for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7chrgtPYDY
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
9:30 pm
AmVet
Have you ever had the chance to see a team for a full 4-game series? It’s pretty cool. You get a much better sense of who is hot, who’s cold, who hustles, etc, than you do in just one game.
@@
February 21st, 2011
9:34 pm
SoCo:
A woman with a silencer!!??!!
Every man’s dream.
(ISH)
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
9:34 pm
SoCo
Maybe she needs a laser sight (since she’s marksmenship challenged) and a little more firepower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiwJ9jKvzGo
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
9:37 pm
Southern Comfort:
I meant “were” as in “now” ………….
Yep, we can’t outline it hear but it’s not good. I was part of an airport security survey team right after 9/11 before they would allow Atlanta flights into Reagan National.
That’s the first thing we brought to everyone’s attention then and it still hasn’t been corrected.
If the big one ever happens out of Atlanta and it’s for that reason I will be the first one to volunteer my testimony to a Senate subcommittee and I hope heads roll !!!
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
9:38 pm
@@
LOL!!!! That one didn’t even cross my mind.
HD
How’s this for more firepower? Still almost as quiet as the first one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zE60sp-kEc&feature=related
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
9:38 pm
If I was hunting barns, I might want something like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScNxzy1fRZw&feature=related
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
9:38 pm
Disgusted:
India 3/4 1967-68 Ooo Rah !
getalife
February 21st, 2011
9:38 pm
w had nothing to do with it cons but if saddam was still there, they would probably join the protest to remove him. al marlika is not running again because of the protests.
It started with a man setting himself on fire because a government official would not let him sell his fruit to support his family. The story went viral in the ME on the internet.
Iraq was a mistake you cons will never man up and admit.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
9:40 pm
Del @ 9:18
1) NO
2) They haven’f for 10 years.
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
9:41 pm
AmVet,
George W. Bush yanked this country to its feet after 9/11. I think you remember with faint praise.
Usually you don’t remember at all. You are most specific in calling President
Bush every sorry, scummy name you can produce with every literary insult you can conjure up.
No malice? Can you really fool youself that much? It is too late, AmVet. You have spread your malice too thickly to erase it now. Mr. NiceGuy has been gone too long.
@@
February 21st, 2011
9:43 pm
I liked the Uzi. Has a little magnifying glass
thingie.
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
9:46 pm
Day after day, you come here and personally insulted a wide variety of people. Without provocation.
Try healing yourself, before playing psychologist on me Ms. Nice Gal.
Del
February 21st, 2011
9:46 pm
Disgusted, Marine Corps Korea wouldn’t get it, so you would have to be WWII for me to be in diapers while you’re busting caps in Guadalcanal. I think you’re blowing smoke but left wingers tend to do that.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
9:48 pm
I hate Reagan National……….. That’s one airport that I won’t miss seeing anytime in the near future.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
9:49 pm
@@-SoCom
“A woman with a silencer!!??!!
Every man’s dream.”
Not to intrude, but you sure you didn’t mean
‘A silent woman!!??!!
Every man’s dream.’
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
9:51 pm
Getalife,
If Saddam were still around he would probably be laying ‘em down with poison gas like he did with the Kurds. Or..sending them to his torture chambers.
I aven’t heard the Iraqis wishing Saddam was still alive and kickin’.. They hung him as soon as they could get their hands on him..
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
9:56 pm
Southern Comfort:
Spent a lot of time going in & out of Washington/Reagan National ……………… thought we were going to crash there one night (coming down the river which is a bad approach anyway) in a thunderstorm but we hit hard and made it. All of the oxygen masks and exit signs fell down when we hit. I don’t see how the landing gear held but it did.
@@
February 21st, 2011
9:57 pm
Paul:
Nothing is fixed.
Can’t turn us on unless we’re off to start with.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
9:59 pm
These are the editorial comics from the Wisconsin State Journal – Phil Hands – on the situation there. He’s a self-described lib. On this issue, though, the libs get it big time.
https://disruptthenarrative.wordpress.com/2011/02/20/liberal-wisconsin-political-cartoonist-sides-with/
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
10:00 pm
Sountern Comfort:
Another time about six of us were going to refuse to take an “Air Niger” from Niger to Paris after we took a look at its rusted hulk.
Then the British pilot and co-pilot came by and talked us into going. They said the airline was too cheap to have it painted but all the maintenance was done in Great Britain so we went …………………………. and held out breath.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
10:00 pm
@@
I like women with sharp intellects. You know that -
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
10:00 pm
AmVet, 9:46
It would not take a psychologist to spot your constant carping. Even a child could do it. I only mention it when you are flinging it around. Just think. You could be a sweetheart without that. Too bad. Kinda sad….
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
10:02 pm
Paul @ 9:49
HUSH!!
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
10:04 pm
HD
I’m willing to wager you’d bag a 16 point barn with that puppy. I’d probably pack this one here. Something about this video just challenges me to shoot that gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FCY3_5Bg1M
getalife
February 21st, 2011
10:07 pm
He did not have them curveball er dusty.
You cons have moved so far right we are going to have to carve swastikas in your foreheads.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
10:08 pm
Scout
Which approach, from the south or north? I really, really, really hate that north approach. I haven’t seen anything to match that Air Niger yet, but had a take-off from LaGuardia during a thunderstorm that would have given the Scream Machine at Six Flags a run for it’s money. That was one day that I was happy that I don’t get motion sickness.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
10:09 pm
Southern Comfort:
How about this baby !!! 60 caliber handgun !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHsEojBGojI
P.S.
The worst, scariest thing I ever shot (in training) was a flamethrower ………… nasty !
@@
February 21st, 2011
10:09 pm
Hillbilly:
You may enjoy looking at these old pictures. Two hits…one to pull up the pic w/caption and another hit on the picture to enlarge.
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/results.asp?pageno=1&subject_broad_id=&subject_narrow_id=&subject_narrow=Strikes+and+lockouts&results_relevancy=&search_type=basic&sort_by=date
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
10:11 pm
Southern Comfort:
Coming down the river from the north. I rode the jump seat once in good weather and the pilots told me that was the worst approach in the U.S. (especially at night or in weather) due to the turns and not getting in a NOTAM. They were very focused when we did that.
Del
February 21st, 2011
10:11 pm
Well good night to my conservative friends, @@, Dusty, 0311 ( why do you have to have so many MOS’s?) and to my liberal friends, AmVet, SoCo, Paul, H.D., josef and disgusted, the high school cheer leader whose Momma doesn’t know she’s up so late trying to impersonate a Marine. Taps
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
10:11 pm
SoCo @ 10:04
It might be more effective to give that rifle to your adversary and let him maim himself.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
10:14 pm
Dusty 10:02
But of course!
I know when I’ve met my match -
http://tinyurl.com/4nraojp
Paul
February 21st, 2011
10:16 pm
Del
“and to my liberal friends,.., Paul, ”
I just gotta buy a new calendar….
g’night , Del
Hillbilly Deluxe
February 21st, 2011
10:16 pm
0311 @ 10:09
That’s not a handgun; it’s a very short rifle.
@@
Interesting pics.
Nite all.
@@
February 21st, 2011
10:16 pm
Goodnight, Del.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
10:18 pm
Del:
You know the first two.
The last two are federal law enforcement series.
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
10:19 pm
How about this baby !!! 60 caliber handgun !
I know my limits, and I think that one breaches my limits pretty darned well…. Haven’t had the opportunity to touch a flame thrower, but if you like big guns, I definitely recommend the S&W 500. I shot the 8″ version, and it’s heavy enough that the kick is quite managable.
I spent over half the year last year with your old office, so I saw Arlington to my right quite a few times. I saw a show on the history channel that talked about the 10 most dangerous airports, and I personally would add Reagan on that list just because of that approach.
HD
You might have a point there!!!!
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
10:20 pm
Nite Del….
Paul
It’s Monday, you’re Liberal on Mondays, right??
Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)
February 21st, 2011
10:21 pm
I’m punching out myself. I’m acting like I’m not gonna want to slap the hell out of that alarm clock in a few hours.
Later all!!!
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
10:22 pm
1801
I know what you mean by being a bit hesitant about boarding a rusty airplane. After working on the Hopi Reservation at Keams Canyon, I needed a ride to Phoenix. I left on the “hospital “plane which they had for emergency trips to Phoenix and patients for major surgery. It held about a dozen patients and you could see clear through from the “windshield” to the tail parts. Not the latest thing in airplanes. One patient with an IV going was the co-pilot. A mother had a baby on a baby board. There was coughing and sniffling. The pilot said to me , “Come on, we’ve got room for one more.” . So I got on.
We took off from a dirt runway at Polaco between the mesas. The wind leg was blowing right and it was the only thing at the “airport”. Not a bad trip even with the swoops over the mountains around Phoenix. I made it happily into the airport and hopped on a shiny Delta plane for Atlanta.
Rust is a nice color but I like silver better for planes, ’specially the one I am flying on.
Paul
February 21st, 2011
10:23 pm
SoCom
Depends if it’s the third Monday after an even-numbered Sunday in a month beginning with a letter with a counterpart in Sanskrit.
Pleasant evening, all -
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
10:27 pm
Dusty:
Not me ! If I never get on another plane I’ll be happy.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
10:29 pm
Southern Comfort:
I had an S&W .44 Mag (6 inch) once. That’s enough for me. Gave it to my son.
Now I ususally carry my LCP .380 Ruger. I could probably throw it and do more damage ……………………….
AmVet
February 21st, 2011
10:39 pm
You could be a sweetheart without that.
You’re right. I’ll try harder.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 21st, 2011
10:44 pm
TAPS !!
Dusty
February 21st, 2011
10:54 pm
Goodnight, 1801. Getting late. Goodnight, AmVet. Pleasant dreams.
Adam
February 21st, 2011
10:56 pm
Commenting on the article…. Damn, this is bad news. Hopefully by the end of it we have a country with mostly free thinking people still in it, rather than a country with nearly all of them dead.
Cambridge_MA
February 21st, 2011
11:14 pm
Obama reminds me of president Carter. Carter lost Iran, but gain Egypt as an ally.
How will history judge Obama?
Why did Obama engineer a coup against Mubarak but is SILENT on Libya?
Abandoned the Green movement to Iranian thugs in June of 2009.
Ronald Reagan may not have been as smart as Obama, but he knew two things:
(a) Who are his friends, and (b) Who are his enemies.
Why has Obama forgotten?
TnGelding
February 22nd, 2011
2:24 am
Carter lost Iran? How many of the hostages died? When you travel and live abroad, you do so at your own risk. Don’t expect us to start WWIII to rescue you. Why didn’t Reagan take care of Gadhafi?
The entire ME is being liberated, thanks to Obama, the new leader of Muslims worldwide. Allah is great!
Joel Edge
February 22nd, 2011
6:36 am
“large-scale violence against your own people isn’t supposed to be practical any longer”
That’s a good one, Jay. Funny how bad people will be bad people despite all the condemnation of others.
Southern Comfort
February 22nd, 2011
6:58 am
Now I ususally carry my LCP .380 Ruger. I could probably throw it and do more damage
Load that sucker with these rounds right here, and you should be ok. I’m saving up for that 500 though.
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
7:12 am
HD, if you’re around this morning–I just heard an enlightening chat about genetically modified crops, recalled how we had discussed how Monsanto’s GMOs affected a Canadian farmer who wound up winning a lawsuit against them. Figured it might be of interest–
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/2011/feb/21/dish-gmos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=%24{feed}&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+%24{bl}+%28%24{Brian+Lehrer}%29
See also–NYTimes story on the Ag secretary’s change of policy when it comes to labeling such food products, from a few weeks back:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/business/28alfalfa.html
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
7:20 am
I’ve only skimmed the comments so apologies if this has been covered, but does anyone have a good handle on what constitutes the armed resistance to Qaddafy’s regime?
stands for decibels
February 22nd, 2011
7:34 am
State’s Ratter Sheets upstairs.
0311/0317 - 1811/1801
February 22nd, 2011
8:32 am
Southern Comfort:
I have some just like that with the plastic tip that goes through clothing better, etc.
Texas Transplant
February 28th, 2011
6:16 pm
Why don’t you take an online poll: Who’s crazier, Charlie Sheen or Moammar Gadhafi? I think Sheen will turn out to be bipolar, but Gadhafi is just plain nuts, with an overwhelming God complex.