Libyan madman reportedly slaughtering his own people

For all the anger directed at Hosni Mubarak in Egypt, he isn’t Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

So far, at least 200 Libyan protesters have been killed by the Libyan military, and with the regime teetering, Gadhafi’s son, Saif, has warned in a TV appearance that “instead of crying over 200 deaths we will cry over 100,000s of deaths… We will flight to the last man and woman and bullet. We will not lose Libya. We will not let Al Jazeera, Al Arabiya and BBC trick us. We will live in Libya and die in Libya.”

And Saif has the reputation of a moderate.

With no foreign press allowed in the nation, verifiable first-hand reports are impossible. But multiple witnesses report that the Libyan navy is lobbing shells at civilian areas and helicopter gunships are firing on crowds. Two Libyan fighter pilots have defected, landing their jets in Malta rather than take part in the slaughter. There are reports of foreign mercenaries being flown in to carry out violence against the Libyan people that Libyan forces might balk at perpetrating. Libya’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations has accused Gadhafi of genocide; its envoy to the Arab League, Abdel Moneim al-Honi, announced he was “joining the revolution”.

In the modern, interconnected world, large-scale violence against your own people isn’t supposed to be practical any longer, even for a dictator. Gadhafi is putting that expectation to a rather stern test.

As recently as 1982, Syria’s Hafez al-Assad put down a rebellion in the town of Hama by blocking all exits from the city, then reducing Hama to rubble by weeks of bombing and aerial bombardment. Once all resistance ceased, Syrian forces moved into the town and began executing residents by the thousands. By the time it ended, as many as 30,000 people were dead.

That’s the reason you don’t hear much about protesters in Syria.

With exports of a million barrels a day, Libya accounts for about 10 percent of Europe’s oil supply, so the violence there has already had an impact on world oil prices. Gold prices have jumped as well. Oil companies are evacuating as many foreign national as possible, and the United States is evacuating all non-essential diplomatic personnel.

– Jay Bookman

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Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
7:26 pm

RW @ 7:21

From the scan of that guy, he looks for all the world like Mr. Wrestling II.

jm

February 21st, 2011
7:27 pm

In fact, if the “hard choices” he likes to talk about involve compromising in any way his political prospects or spending his political popularity to achieve fiscal sanity, there’s zero evidence so far. His budget contains a few token cuts (10 percent in community development block grants, a couple billion dollars in heating-oil subsidies that will most discomfit Republican senators from New England) that allow him to claim a centrist mantle. To the extent he achieves operating balance, it’s with the usual gimmicks: a rosy economic forecast; cuts that stretch over 10 years – past even a second term – to pay for spending during the next two. A magical pot of money for transportation, with no mention of its source. His State of the Union address was a campaign speech about contrast, not cooperation: Democrats want to win the future; Republicans want to starve it.

So here’s the hope: A bipartisan group of senators, led by Mark Warner (D-Va.) and Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), comes up with a plausible plan for serious deficit reduction – and Obama decides that hitching his wagon to it might help him in 2012. It might not fit the definition of leadership, but it now seems like the only chance for progress in the next two years.

Obama the follower. We elected a follower to President. Laaaaame.

Paul

February 21st, 2011
7:29 pm

josef nix

yeah, well…. still love that movie!

@@

Answer’s at the 40-second mark.

“Latin” is situation specific.

Big picture. Think Statfor.

jm

February 21st, 2011
7:29 pm

Obama has redefined POTUS. The Political Prostitute of the United States of America. I look forward to that announcement at the beginning of the next State of the Union. But I feel bad for the Sargeant at Arms, having to introduce such a pathetic figure.

TaxPayer

February 21st, 2011
7:32 pm

Did Redneck miss getting that delivery of Boones Farm to Dusty on schedule. You know how she gets, Redneck.

TaxPayer

February 21st, 2011
7:34 pm

What y’all talking about that lapdog, Saxby, for. Is he being called up to do his little bit for Imperial Sugar again or someone else this time.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
7:34 pm

PAUL

I preferred “Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.” That scene at Uluru..”…just what Australian needs, a c*ck in a frock on a rock…”

@@

February 21st, 2011
7:34 pm

Paul:

josef’s gay. I’m straight.

Neither of us understand it.

The way I look at it You either IS or you ISN’T okay with who and what you are. No need to dress it up OR down.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
7:35 pm

jm

Every POTUS from Adams forward has been a political prostitute…it’s the nature of the game…

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
7:36 pm

RW

Thanks, I had found that same one after clicking a few links from google..

jm

February 21st, 2011
7:37 pm

Doggone/GA

February 21st, 2011
7:38 pm

“No need to dress it up OR down

Do you ever wear trousers?

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
7:38 pm

@@

Yep. I’ve got no problem with the impersonator-performer and the stage show…can’t for the life of me recall that Colombian actor’s name right now, but a good example of “drag queen” versus all those others…As a stage show, okay. but otherwise…I just don’t get it…

TaxPayer

February 21st, 2011
7:38 pm

It sure is nice to have a real president for a change instead of that Bush. I’m looking forward to voting for President Obama for a second term. I wonder if McCain will win the Republican primary again.

jm

February 21st, 2011
7:38 pm

jonix 7:35 – don’t know about that. Ok, gotta get a few more things done, then I gotta get out of here (work).

Despite Mick thinking I’m corrupt for defrauding my employer by spending time on the internet. At work. On a holiday. Until 8pm.

kayaker 71

February 21st, 2011
7:42 pm

The oil has not stopped flowing yet. And gas has not reached the $4 mark. Just wait. All of this unrest will give OPEC the needed excuse to squeeze gazillions of more dollars out of us for our gluttony of fossil fuels. The biggest prize in the ME is Saudi Arabia. Virtually unprotected, at the head of line for tyranny and an old family of aristocrats just waiting to be plucked out of the system. Then what happens? Oil to the highest bidder. We just have to hope that whoever takes over the govt of the oil rich countries in the ME have some compassion for the West. Does that sound like a pipe dream? Probably. Israel is a player in this game…. don’t forget Israel. Although Bozo keeps Bebe waiting while he has dinner, Bebe is not a patient man. Maybe Nostrademus was right.

jm

February 21st, 2011
7:43 pm

If the stock market goes up tomorrow, call me shocked. If that happens, it means we’re about to go stratospheric with inflation (asset inflation and commodities).

@@

February 21st, 2011
7:43 pm

Doggone:

Do you ever wear trousers?

Can’t say that I do. Never been able to find a pair long enough.

schnirt

jm

February 21st, 2011
7:44 pm

I will have to send money to Walker for re-election…. this is just fantastic.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 21st, 2011
7:45 pm

Did Redneck miss getting that delivery of Boones Farm to Dusty on schedule. You know how she gets, Redneck.

Well, I don’t haul the cheap stuff–not even for Sister Dusty. We got standards. It’s got to be at least the quality of PBR to get on my truck.

So Sister Dusty gets a little cranky when she can’t find her cheap wine. How can you tell the difference? I mean, most of the time she’ll bite your head off anyway. She’s only happy when she’s gnawing a Burger King Whopper.

Have a good night everybody and don’t talk about me while I’m sleeping.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
7:47 pm

With what is going on in the Mid-East, gas prices will go up whether OPEC raises prices or not. After all, when Hurricane Katrina hit, prices sky-rocketed the next day, even though that gas was already in the pipeline.

jm

February 21st, 2011
7:47 pm

exactly

“You have shut down the people’s government, and that’s not acceptable,” Fitzgerald said of the Democrats.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49919.html#ixzz1Ee0HLSrC

jm

February 21st, 2011
7:48 pm

Arrogant Elitist Democrats think they know better how to spend hard working Americans money than they do themselves. Hard working American voters know differently.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
7:50 pm

Kayaker

Bibi and Barry have long since worked out their deal, on that you can bet your last shekel and barrel of oil…

TaxPayer

February 21st, 2011
7:50 pm

Despite Mick thinking I’m corrupt for defrauding my employer by spending time on the internet.

jm is using someone else’s resources to play around on the Internet. The shock! Our IT dept. tracked down the slackers where I worked and canned ‘em for their improper use of company resources.

Paul

February 21st, 2011
7:52 pm

josef nix

Saw’em both. Prefer To Wong Foo. Just had more pizzazz. And the changing attitudes in small town America metaphor.

@@

Just seemed not many had much to offer on Iraq. I liked Swayze in it. Read once he said he wanted the part because of memories of kids chasing him and throwing rocks as he walked home from his mom’s dance studio.

Read an article today by a Tufts poli-sci guy regarding Friedman/Stratfor. Wasn’t all that positive. Frankly, I think the guy was ticked Friedman’s books outsell his.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
7:53 pm

jm

Democrats, GOP–spend money you don’t have on bail outs
Hard Working Americans–spend money you don’t have on credit cards

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
7:56 pm

PAUL

Preferred Priscilla…it was grittier. What can I say, though, I like Angst!

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
7:56 pm

Arrogant Elitist Democrats think they know better how to spend hard working Americans money than they do themselves. Hard working American voters know differently.

That’s an awful arrogant statement to make. The same could be said about arrogant elitest Republicans. Too bad you have your blinders on to realize that neither party gives a crap about the majority of hard working Americans.

Tommy Maddox

February 21st, 2011
7:56 pm

Hey Dusty just wait – someone will claim that.

kayaker 71

February 21st, 2011
7:58 pm

Joseph,

Perhaps, but Bebe seems abandoned. If left to his own devices, there is no telling what he might do to protect Israel. They will not go down, at least not without a huge whimper. And when the chips are down and the one ally that we depend on most in the ME is shoved aside, we will be on our own with all of these despots. And left with Bozo to lead us. How’s that for a no win scenario.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
7:58 pm

@@

Thought about you last p.m. You know how they’re always coming down on you hereabouts for citing Stratfor? CNN had a Stratfor on as their informed source on Libya last p.m. (Lemon)

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
8:02 pm

Kayaker…

Obama’s “shoving aside” was, imho, just so much rhetoric to placate the left anti-Israel contingent and throw the Arab dog a bone…Israel will, as it always has, do our dirty work for us. We’ll come out with a lot of condemnatory words, and the policy will not change…

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
8:09 pm

Uh oh well, just listening to folks running down the USA and the presidents, past & present, and anybody that has worked in upper echelon government. and we do anything for oil or money and on and on…

TAXPAYER can’t you get anything straight? I love that delightful and delectable Manichevitz. Boone Farm? Not familiar with it. That stuff Redneck delivers would kill a cat quicker than anti-freeze. Or cause brain damage. For that last reason, I conclude that. many here do enjoy that ol’ RedNeck stuff he SUPPOSEDLY delivers. Actually he lives near the clubhouse on the golf course. A gated mini-mansion man of means–with pink flamingos of course… As granny says, bless his heart!!

Paul

February 21st, 2011
8:09 pm

josef nix

“Preferred Priscilla…it was grittier. What can I say, though, I like Angst!”

I’ll take up the slack with Incurable Romantic.

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
8:12 pm

Tommy Maddox….go hide your head…

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
8:13 pm

You know how they’re always coming down on you hereabouts for citing Stratfor?

Like I said earlier today, the definition of a credible source is one that supports the position you already have. If it goes against your position, then the source isn’t credible. :lol:

I’ve always found Stratfor fairly interesting, it’s like anybody else, look at it with a skeptical eye.

outsider

February 21st, 2011
8:15 pm

It will be interesting to see how everything plays out in the ME. Ghadafi is no different than Stalin.

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
8:19 pm

Well, I thought most folks liked @@’s news reports. Keeps us up to date. Guess I’m not here 24/7.

kayaker 71

February 21st, 2011
8:19 pm

Joseph,

It has to change. Things are heating up over there. What oil rich country is going to be our friend? Certainly not Egypt. Certainly not Iran. Maybe Chavez. Maybe Iraq but the dust has not settled on that yet. That leaves the Saudis and the Kuwaitis. The key thing in this that Bozo has to solve is the price of oil. That keeps him in a second term. That’s the only dog we have in this hunt. We could care less about the future of the poor people of Libya. Just keep the oil coming….. and at a good price so we get politicians re- elected. I would like to think that W had a say in what is happening in the ME. But it is too soon to say. Wonder if they threw out the Muslim brotherhood and had free elections and ….. but that is a pipe dream, n’est-ce pas?

Doggone/GA

February 21st, 2011
8:20 pm

“It will be interesting to see how everything plays out in the ME. Ghadafi is no different than Stalin”

Yes, it will be. Yesterday before Saif Ghadaffi spoke they were reporting the the RUMOR (they emphasized that) in Libya was that Moammar had left the country. I never heard anything more about that rumor afterwards.

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
8:24 pm

I can see a lot of people dying in the ME. It’s not going to be a pretty picture. I don’t think any other country will have the outcome that Egypt had. Mubarak was hard, but he was nowhere near hardcore like the other leaders over there.

Kamchak

February 21st, 2011
8:25 pm

I would like to think that W had a say in what is happening in the ME.

No doubt.

AmVet

February 21st, 2011
8:25 pm

I honestly think most of the BHO loathing here is just thinly disguised self loathing.

And had I the lack of sanity to vote for George even once (much less twice), I’d probably look for every imaginable bogey man to make me feel better about that Grade A, industrial strength, major league, unrivaled f&ck up of a mistake in judgment too!

Sorry boys, as bad as Barry is, he’s not only not on the same level as George, he’s not even in the same building yet.

Quit deflecting, grow up and own it…

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
8:25 pm

KAYAKER

One of the things that has intrigued me in all this is that so many of those on the streets are making it clear that they are not motivated by Islamacism. I think that the Brotherhood and the like have gotten the message that, as far as the masses are concerned and especially in the more highly educated societies (Egypt and Tunisia) they are seen as not having delivered very much in “throwing off the yoke.” We’ll see how that plays out…

kayaker 71

February 21st, 2011
8:27 pm

It’s amazing how these paper dictators crumble in the face of public unrest. Only took 18 da in Egypt. Might take awhile longer in Yemen, Syria, Libya….. the big question is what all of this means. And they are sitting on the oil that we need to prime our economy. Maybe W was right. Maybe all it took was a spark. I’d sure to think so.

Paul

February 21st, 2011
8:29 pm

AmVet

Rule #1: Blame someone else.

Rule #2: If you had a part in it, repeat Rule #1.

josef nix

“they are seen as not having delivered very much in “throwing off the yoke.”

I’d guess seen as replacing one yoke with another.

But of course, then the line becomes “but the Brotherhood is clever, they look long-range, this is their chance…”

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
8:31 pm

KAYAKER

You said”I would like to think that W had a say in what is happening in the MidEast.” Like what? That Bush got rid of one of the only missing dictators in the Middle East?

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
8:31 pm

My view of things in Egypt is a little different than most people’s. From what I’ve seen, the military is in control. So that may lead to an orderly transition and a civilian government, which may or may not be to our liking, or we may look up twenty years from now and see that the military is still in control. It’s too early to be reaching for the chips, just yet.

@@

February 21st, 2011
8:34 pm

Stratfor is nothing more than strategic or geopolitical analysis. They definitely know where the players are and offer speculation as to what they may be up to.

In almost every article, they’ll refer you back to previous articles, some will take me back years. Take that year’s, this year’s and anything in between. Put them together and VOILA….connect the dots.

Major players and strategic interests. Fascinating!

Can’t call ‘em right-wing. They seem to have ZERO interest in politics per se. Like me, they probably see politics as child’s play.

Paul

February 21st, 2011
8:38 pm

@@

Remember those articles cited during the primaries/election – tracked the historical path of the parties, then of the activists, then said what a President McCain or Obama would likely do?

And how the Left, in particular, heaped derision?

Maybe that explains why so many love to live in the moment? Any self analysis of what was said in the past is just too embarrassing?

kayaker 71

February 21st, 2011
8:38 pm

Dusty,

No, it goes a lot further than that. Bush had a vision, like it or not, that there was some hope for democracy in the ME. After reading his book, “Decisions”, he may have been right. I am not sure that his motives were as pure as they should have been in the beginning but as things evolved, it took on a different spin. And I am not so sure that that was all bad. Things get done because good men act. History will have to determine whether or not he was right but history is rearing it’s ugly head as we speak.

TaxPayer

February 21st, 2011
8:41 pm

Sounds like all we need to do to resolve all the problems in the middle east is get @@ and her sniper rifle a airplane ticket. Maybe she could dress up her rifle to look like a skinny fella and sneak him on board.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
8:42 pm

Hillbilly
I would agree with you on Egypt. The military there has a pretty good reputation in the general population, Mubarak notwithstanding. They are aware that to preserve that image, it will be necessary to move toward civilian government, but with a strong military presence. Played right, it could be a win-win situation. It remains to be seen if their leadership is up to the challenge, both the military and the civillian. If they can capitalize on the good will and carpiet diem…

AmVet

This is the secularists’ moment…again, it remains to be seen if they seize it…most likely, in Tunisia, a bit more iffy in Egypt…it won’t happen in Bahrain. Yemen is, well, Yemen. Morocco, I hope, will capitalize on its moderate traditions. Libya…? Who knows…

@@

February 21st, 2011
8:44 pm

Paul:

Maybe that explains why so many love to live in the moment? Any self analysis of what was said in the past is just too embarrassing?

So true. The fewer words spoken, the less chance they’ll come back to bite the ass or hand that feeds. It’s best to say what you mean and mean what you say.

@@

February 21st, 2011
8:46 pm

Taxpayer:

I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn from 10 feet away.

@@

February 21st, 2011
8:47 pm

Question.

Is John R. Commons the fella that started the labor movement in Wisconsin?

@@

February 21st, 2011
8:48 pm

Make that John Roger Commons?

Del

February 21st, 2011
8:48 pm

AmVet, why does it need to be “BHO loathing”? Loathing and hatred to me as it pertains to a president is so far removed from the personal contact that for most it would almost seem border line insanity to loath the person. Excuse the reference but it seemed to me that many on the left loathed/hated George W. Bush. Why even today though he’s out of office, some still vilify him to the point of almost insane hatred. Conservative by and large don’t hate, we just disagree with Obama and believe he’s not good for America as our president.

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
8:49 pm

Well, Kayaker,

One of the first things I heard about Egypt’s disruption was the thought that they too desired to be free which is one way of saying democracy. While there is hate for us in some parts of the MIddle East, I think there is still a world view that America is the bastion of freedom. Why do so many people try to get here one way or another just to enjoy the benefits of our republic?

I think we forget our own privilege of democracy by constant griping, political complaints, and downgrading our own country. Appreciation is almost invisible. The only time it is noticable is when someone sings the Star Spangled Banner at a ball game. Then they notice. On a blog? Only the negative.

Paul

February 21st, 2011
8:52 pm

TaxPayer

“I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn from 10 feet away.”

Yeah, but her stilettos are deadlier than Ninja darts!

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
8:53 pm

“Liberals wake up in the morning thinking it’s tomorrow. Conservatives wake up in the morning thinking it’s yesterday.” –Unmentionable

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
8:55 pm

Libya…? Who knows…

My guess is that the only chance they have is to get some of the military on their side. If the military stays united against them, I don’t see much hope for them throwing off the shackles. And even if they do get some of the military to stand with them, it may wind up being just an exchange of shackles.

TaxPayer

February 21st, 2011
8:55 pm

I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn from 10 feet away.

You should move about seven feet closer before swinging it next time.

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
8:57 pm

Rule #1: Blame someone else.

Rule #2: If you had a part in it, repeat Rule #1.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

TaxPayer

February 21st, 2011
9:02 pm

I bet Rambo Jimmy could clean up the middle east in no time.

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 21st, 2011
9:03 pm

@@

February 21st, 2011
9:04 pm

Taxpayer:

You should move about seven feet closer before swinging it next time.

Hitting a baseball? THAT, I’m good at!!!!

Better than most of the guys I know.

Del

February 21st, 2011
9:04 pm

Dusty, I believe a big problem we have is a president and an administration that fails to project leadership in the world. It’s been the left wings mantra to apologize for America and unfortunately Mr. Obama is of that persuasion. Since he’s taken office, Obama hasn’t projected strength and the rest of the world, friends and enemies alike have lost respect for what we stand for as a country. Therefore we command little respect much less creditability in world affairs. Anyone who believes Obama is not of the far left wing is either kidding themselves or trying to kid other people who know a helluva lot more than they do.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
9:04 pm

SoCo

Gotcha!

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
9:04 pm

@@

For $19.95 plus shipping and handling, you can order my dvd guide to the perfect shot. In a matter of minutes, you’ll not only be able to hit the broad side of a barn, but you’ll also be able to hit the narrow side too. If you act now, we’ll throw in a second dvd guide that will teach you how to hide the bodies when you’re done. This offer won’t last forever. You get 2 dvds valued at over $60 separately for the low, low price of $19.99 plus shipping and handling. Operators are standing by for your call.

ISH

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
9:07 pm

AmVet

In case you might be looking for a job.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/dreamjob/index.jsp

I would apply but I don’t want to live in NYC and I probably couldn’t pass the background check, anyway.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
9:08 pm

Del

I disagree. Obama is not far left. He’s left centrist. And even there, no further left than what in another society would be a Social Democrat or a Christian Socialist. That’s just my opinion looking at him, as I do, from the farther left…

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 21st, 2011
9:08 pm

“State orders Detroit to close half its schools”

And you libs. think Wisconsin is bad? When do the mobs go to Detroit?

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/#ixzz1EeKhzBly

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
9:09 pm

Agent 03

I posted to RW @ 7:36 that I had found it. I’ve been looking to see if that was on the old software or if it was using the new “generic body outline” software. Can’t find anything here, so I’ll probably have to ask around tomorrow. I’m not a real big fan of reliance on technology too much. If you know how it works, technology can be defeated or circumvented.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
9:09 pm

Gotta run…rough week this week at work…

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
9:10 pm

hmmmm

Liberals wake up in the morning with a hangover of hubris..

Conservaties wake up in the morning with the surety of sunshine.

–Anonymous–

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 21st, 2011
9:11 pm

josef:

You know I respect your opinions but I must jump in here. Obama is as far left as any president the United States has ever had and then take two more steps left into the “radical zone”.

His ideology is harmful to this country.

Del

February 21st, 2011
9:11 pm

josef, I’ll take your word for it but if you’re further left than Obama then welcome to the right because you’ve come full circle assuming the worlds round.

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 21st, 2011
9:13 pm

Southern Comfort :

I hear you. I forgot you were TSA.

You know there is still a very, very major security gap at the airport …………. right ?

I just don’t want to say what it is on here.

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
9:15 pm

I forgot you were TSA. As in the past tense. ;)

I could probably give you a few, but this isn’t the place for that type of discussion.

Del

February 21st, 2011
9:18 pm

0311, regarding security gap…will the general public be made aware of it and more importantly will it be fixed? We’re flying out of the country in August to Southeast Asia.

Disgusted

February 21st, 2011
9:19 pm

Dusty, I believe a big problem we have is a president and an administration that fails to project leadership in the world.

Yes, Del. What we really need is a Mitt administration—somebody who has never held office above the post of governor but has been to the ME four times and therefore knows everything about it. Or maybe a Mitch Daniels, Haley Barbour, or Newt Gingrich. The world would tremble with respect. You and Scout are a real trip–you know? Did you struggle to pass basic civics?

@@

February 21st, 2011
9:21 pm

SoCo:

No thanks. Guns are too loud.

I went target shooting once. I tended to close my eyes while pulling the trigger. It was as though I wouldn’t hear it if my eyes were closed. Beats covering my ears while pulling the trigger.

(ISH)

I’m pretty hopeless when it comes to firearms.

Del

February 21st, 2011
9:23 pm

Disgusted, I’ve gone far beyond basic civics as a senior citizen of the world whose traveled around it several times. I hope you’re enjoying your senior year in high school and wish you much success in your pursuits.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
9:23 pm

I’m pretty hopeless when it comes to firearms.

When it comes to barns, it’s pretty simple, point and shoot. (IW&SH)

buck@gon

February 21st, 2011
9:24 pm

TaxPayer,

“This is what the Republicans said they wanted, isn’t it. To plant the seeds of democracy in the middle east. Or was that just BushSpeak.

Let’s see what sprouts from those seeds. Meanwhile, I’m keeping an eye out for ways to reduce my use of fossil fuels even more. Solar cells to charge car batteries might be a wise investment.”

The idea that America in Iraq has anything to do with the Middle East coming apart is beyond reason. If this is all America’s fault, then one must wonder why on earth Iraq is not coming apart?

It is easy to see from your post to this solemn news that you and many others need some enlightenment. Your trite observations about solar cells and fossil fuels in light of poor analysis of history make me want to get down on my knees and pray for you, your understanding and for so many people in this country who seem to think that utopia lies just over the hill of solar power, easy government pensions, free healthcare and trimming the military.

Utopia means literally, nowhere. We must live in this world, TaxPayer.

@@

February 21st, 2011
9:25 pm

I could get some of those ear thingies though.

I can see it now…a burglar breaks into the house and not only am I rushing to find the gun, I’ve gotta put my ear thingies on too.

I’d probably shoot myself in the process.

buck@gon

February 21st, 2011
9:26 pm

“What we really need is a Mitt administration—somebody who has never held office above the post of governor”

Disgusted,

Just so.

So, Obama, with his four years in the Senate had executive and leadership that none of the governors have?

Please see my post to Tax Payer above. It applies liberally around here.

AmVet

February 21st, 2011
9:27 pm

Del, thanks for the response.

I don’t see any difference.

I think there is a tiny handful that actually do abhor these men.

Most of us just b!tch about them, but that’s it. No malice.

Immediately after 9/11, I said that I was so thankful that nothing happened to the President. Even though I was no fan of his. But had they killed him, it would have been a hundred times worse for me.

And I suspect for most decent Americans.

HD @9:07,

Wow!

That would be something, huh?

Eating, drinking and sleeping baseball! (Baseball bin beddy beddy good to me!)

Maybe thirty years ago, I’d have considered it…

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
9:27 pm

“If 16 years doesn’t give you a little bit of insurance experience, I don’t know what does,” Oxendine said. “I think that’s (worth) a little bit more than taking a test and taking a class.”

The guy has gall, if nothing else.

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/home/headlines/Ga_insurance_chief_issued_himself_license_116614428.html

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
9:28 pm

Del

I’m inclined to agree with you. Obama was far left in almost all activities before he became president. Now he tries to repudiate that reputation by being moderately left. It comes across as indecisive, vacillating in the “wishy-washy”. He does not project strength or determination, something a president really needs.

Disgusted

February 21st, 2011
9:29 pm

I hope you’re enjoying your senior year in high school and wish you much success in your pursuits.

I was in the Marine Corps while you were still filling a diaper abundantly. Don’t presume to tell me how “senior” you are.

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
9:29 pm

@@

If it’s the sound that bothers you, this one would probably work for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7chrgtPYDY

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
9:30 pm

AmVet

Have you ever had the chance to see a team for a full 4-game series? It’s pretty cool. You get a much better sense of who is hot, who’s cold, who hustles, etc, than you do in just one game.

@@

February 21st, 2011
9:34 pm

SoCo:

A woman with a silencer!!??!!

Every man’s dream.

(ISH)

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
9:34 pm

SoCo

Maybe she needs a laser sight (since she’s marksmenship challenged) and a little more firepower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiwJ9jKvzGo

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 21st, 2011
9:37 pm

Southern Comfort:

I meant “were” as in “now” …………. :o

Yep, we can’t outline it hear but it’s not good. I was part of an airport security survey team right after 9/11 before they would allow Atlanta flights into Reagan National.

That’s the first thing we brought to everyone’s attention then and it still hasn’t been corrected.

If the big one ever happens out of Atlanta and it’s for that reason I will be the first one to volunteer my testimony to a Senate subcommittee and I hope heads roll !!!

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
9:38 pm

@@

LOL!!!! That one didn’t even cross my mind.

HD

How’s this for more firepower? Still almost as quiet as the first one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zE60sp-kEc&feature=related

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 21st, 2011
9:38 pm

If I was hunting barns, I might want something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScNxzy1fRZw&feature=related