Libyan madman reportedly slaughtering his own people

For all the anger directed at Hosni Mubarak in Egypt, he isn’t Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

So far, at least 200 Libyan protesters have been killed by the Libyan military, and with the regime teetering, Gadhafi’s son, Saif, has warned in a TV appearance that “instead of crying over 200 deaths we will cry over 100,000s of deaths… We will flight to the last man and woman and bullet. We will not lose Libya. We will not let Al Jazeera, Al Arabiya and BBC trick us. We will live in Libya and die in Libya.”

And Saif has the reputation of a moderate.

With no foreign press allowed in the nation, verifiable first-hand reports are impossible. But multiple witnesses report that the Libyan navy is lobbing shells at civilian areas and helicopter gunships are firing on crowds. Two Libyan fighter pilots have defected, landing their jets in Malta rather than take part in the slaughter. There are reports of foreign mercenaries being flown in to carry out violence against the Libyan people that Libyan forces might balk at perpetrating. Libya’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations has accused Gadhafi of genocide; its envoy to the Arab League, Abdel Moneim al-Honi, announced he was “joining the revolution”.

In the modern, interconnected world, large-scale violence against your own people isn’t supposed to be practical any longer, even for a dictator. Gadhafi is putting that expectation to a rather stern test.

As recently as 1982, Syria’s Hafez al-Assad put down a rebellion in the town of Hama by blocking all exits from the city, then reducing Hama to rubble by weeks of bombing and aerial bombardment. Once all resistance ceased, Syrian forces moved into the town and began executing residents by the thousands. By the time it ended, as many as 30,000 people were dead.

That’s the reason you don’t hear much about protesters in Syria.

With exports of a million barrels a day, Libya accounts for about 10 percent of Europe’s oil supply, so the violence there has already had an impact on world oil prices. Gold prices have jumped as well. Oil companies are evacuating as many foreign national as possible, and the United States is evacuating all non-essential diplomatic personnel.

– Jay Bookman

350 comments Add your comment

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
3:55 pm

Well, here comes the $5 gas. Instead of taking Hussein out, maybe he’s the one we should have taken out back in the 1980’s.

PJ

February 21st, 2011
3:56 pm

World War III will begin in and because of the politics and unrest and oil supplies in the Middle East, but I hope I’m wrong.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:02 pm

BP is not happy today.

TaxPayer

February 21st, 2011
4:03 pm

This is what the Republicans said they wanted, isn’t it. To plant the seeds of democracy in the middle east. Or was that just BushSpeak.

Let’s see what sprouts from those seeds. Meanwhile, I’m keeping an eye out for ways to reduce my use of fossil fuels even more. Solar cells to charge car batteries might be a wise investment.

Kamchak

February 21st, 2011
4:04 pm

There are reports of foreign mercenaries being flown in to carry out violence against the Libyan people that Libyan forces might balk at perpetrating.

Ruh, roh.

@@

February 21st, 2011
4:05 pm

We will live in Libya and die in Libya.”

Let’s see….he’s got seven biological sons and one nephew (adopted).

Eight snipers, eight bullets. Gotta take ‘em out all at once.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:07 pm

@@,

“Eight snipers, eight bullets. Gotta take ‘em out all at once.”

Who is we?

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:09 pm

@@,

@ 4.07,

Sorry….I hit enter accidentally…trying to do two things at once…

My questions was suppose to be who should take them out? The US, the European Union, Russia?

Granny Godzilla

February 21st, 2011
4:11 pm

Reuters) – Two Libyan Air Force fighter pilots defected on Monday and flew their jets to Malta where they told authorities they had been ordered to bomb protesters, Maltese government officials said.

They said the two pilots, both colonels, took off from a base near Tripoli. One of them has requested political asylum.

@@

February 21st, 2011
4:13 pm

Cowboy:

My questions was suppose to be who should take them out?

Does it really matter? I’d go with Mossad.

@@

February 21st, 2011
4:14 pm

It’s being reported that some within the military are joining the protesters.

Paul

February 21st, 2011
4:15 pm

This is what is below the veneer of ‘civilization’ in so many countries. Evil. Hopefully the Libyan people and international community will set it back.
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Tom Middleton

February 21st, 2011
4:16 pm

If I were a Libyan, especially after experiencing the joys of freedom in the U.S., I would be fighting against the Gadhafi tyranny with everything I had.

It’s easy to see why citizens of Libya and others hate their governments so much and are willing to die for something better. Like the leaders in Tunisia and Egypt, Moammar Gadhafi cares nothing for his people!

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:19 pm

Paul,

“This is what is below the veneer of ‘civilization’ in so many countries.”

With the increased militarization of our civilian police, it makes me wonder what lurks beneath our own surface.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/4203345

@@

February 21st, 2011
4:19 pm

Like I said….does it really matter?

Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an Egyptian-born Sunni cleric, issued a fatwa Feb. 21 calling for the assassination of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, Al Jazeera reported Feb. 21. Al-Qaradawi said that any soldier or man capable of shooting should kill Gadhafi to “relieve Libyans of his evil,” DPA reported.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:26 pm

@@,

“Like I said….does it really matter?”

I suppose not..as long as it is not the US.

Keep up the good fight!

February 21st, 2011
4:28 pm

JCB…I’d be more worried about the 2d amendment nuts who want to be armed sufficiently to “fight” our military. Let’s face it. One of the major differences between Libya and Egypt is who the military is supporting. If our “second amendment” nuts claim their guns will be to fight tyranny, then who are they preparing to fight? The US Military?

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
4:31 pm

With the increased militarization of our civilian police, it makes me wonder what lurks beneath our own surface.

Sometimes it’s not what you think it is….

http://www.odmp.org/year.php

Total Line of Duty Deaths: 28
Assault: 1
Automobile accident: 7
Duty related illness: 1
Gunfire: 14
Gunfire (Accidental): 1
Heart attack: 2
Struck by vehicle: 2

*Courtesy of the Officer Down Memorial Page, Inc.

Those statistics are for 2011. Keep in mind that today is only day #52 of the year.

@@

February 21st, 2011
4:33 pm

Cowboy:

I suppose not..as long as it is not the US.

Why not? It’s a lot cheaper than a war. Fewer casualties too.

carlosgvv

February 21st, 2011
4:36 pm

Gadhafi is an old dictator in power for many years who has a son to take over when the time is right. His actions are exactly what you would expect and what usually happens when people rise up against a tyrant. As for oil prices, they will soar regardless of whether there is actually a shortage or not because of business greed and puppet politicans.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:37 pm

@@,

“Why not? It’s a lot cheaper than a war. Fewer casualties too.’

B/c what prevents another country using that excuse to assassinate the family members of our leaders? Libya could have used that excuse to take out W and Jeb, while Poppa was in charge…very slippery slope…not to mention highly dubious on the moral front.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:38 pm

carlosgvv,

“As for oil prices, they will soar regardless of whether there is actually a shortage or not because of business greed and puppet politicans.”

Bingo!

jt

February 21st, 2011
4:40 pm

JewCoBot@4:19———

I too wonder.

The feds will only blind the mundanes “temporarily” and “harmlessly,” the professional liars assure us. Writes a Robert Wenzel source:

We get all sorts of government trade journals delivered here. I found this while leafing through the latest issue of GSN: Government Security News (http://www.gsnmagazine.com/).

The “Dazer Laser” is an “ocular distraction device” that emits a non-damaging [Oh yeah-RW] laser pattern that temporarily blinds a person. Some of them will work up to 1.5 miles! The videos show quite clearly how they do their dirty work… I can imagine it won’t be long before SWAT teams are mounting these to their RV’s for crowd and riot control.

This Libyan crap is none of our business.
But of course we have millions of unemployed kids to help “restore order” in the ME.

Now the gay community AND women can be cannon fodder.

Joy.

Keep up the good fight!

February 21st, 2011
4:41 pm

Why is it that the conservatives always want us to get into taking out leadership they dont agree with in other countries and to kill leaders. They dont want to support political discussion and negotiation with those countries, foreign aid to support the people and they dont want to pay taxes to support nation building. Why is it the US’s job to even get involved other than to condemn the actions of their leaders? Military action is not the answer to all, it is only one step, if and when appropriate,

Chickenhawks, geez.

Kamchak

February 21st, 2011
4:41 pm

If mercenaries are in this fight, does anyone know where Erik Prince is?

N-GA

February 21st, 2011
4:42 pm

SoCo – That’s why the police depts of all large cities want tighter gun controls. You would think that most Americans would support their police, wouldn’t you? Here is a letter from the head of the International Assn of Police Chiefs:

Letter to House Judiciary Committee

Dear Chairman Hyde: On behalf of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, I am writing to express our strong support for two vitally important firearms related provisions that were included in S. 254, the Violent and Repeat Juvenile Offender Accountability Act recently approved by the United States Senate. Specifically, the IACP strongly supports provisions which would require the performance of background checks prior to the sale or transfer of weapons at gun shows, as well as extending the requirements of the Brady Act to cover juvenile acts of crime. The IACP has always viewed the Brady Act as a vital component of any comprehensive crime control effort. Since its enactment, the Brady Act has prevented more than 250,000 felons, fugitives and others prohibited from owning firearms from purchasing handguns. However, the efficacy of the Brady Act is being undermined by oversights in the law which allow those individuals prohibited from owning firearms from obtaining weapons, at events such as gun shows, without undergoing a background check. The IACP believes that it is vitally important that Congress act swiftly to close these loopholes and preserve the effectiveness of the Brady Act. In addition, the IACP believes that juveniles must be held accountable for their acts of violence. Therefore, the IACP also supports modifying the current Brady Act to permanently prohibit gun ownership by an individual, if that individual, while a juvenile, commits a crime that would have triggered a gun disability if their crime had been committed as an adult. Thank you for your attention to this matter. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at 703/836-6767. Sincerely, Ronald S. Neubauer President

jt

February 21st, 2011
4:43 pm

Hey Southern Comfort-

Herein lies a counter link to your 4:31.

Innocence VS state-sponsered violence.

http://www.mpp.org/victims/victim-stories.html

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:46 pm

jt,

“But of course we have millions of unemployed kids to help “restore order” in the ME.”

Very sad…and very true.

Pogo

February 21st, 2011
4:46 pm

While all of the American press was giddy with delight about the Egyptian “youths” revolution for “democracy”, they once again forgot that the Middle East ain’t America. A small political ember over there can turn into a full blown conflagration with a very undesirable end for all of us. I am not a very religious man at all but I was raised in the church and it is very easy to see some very scary correllations between biblical prophecy and scripture and what is currently going on worldwide, not just in the Middle East.

On the earlier thread on Wisconsin, if anyone here thinks that the only issue at hand is the right to bargain then you are sadly mistaken. The core issues are that the government workers don’t want to have to live up to the same work rules and standards as the private sector and their union bosses want more and more money for themselves by forcing everyone “covered” under the union/government contract to pay union dues (whether those indiviudals want to or not). It is not right for the unions to force people, just because of their job classification to pay union dues even if they choose not to be in the union. Especially if those dues are paid for by private sector taxpayers (which is where the revenue to fund the public service workers unions dues emanates). If government workers provide such a vital function for this country (as liberals such as Jay love to tout) then why should they be able to strike and deprive this country’s citizens from such vital services that these very same citizens are paying for through their private sector taxes? We all know we must have government workers but we also know they need to work by the same rules of us out the private sector. If you suck, you go. That is blunt but that is the truth in the bold new world we are living in. It is survival of the fittest, if you will. Some fool here today made the statement that once the paycheck is written for a government worker, then it becomes private sector. I think I have never seen a more inane comment on this blog. This is just how dillusional the progressives have become and it shows their total disrespect of the fiscal predicament this country is in. I can only hope that Obama and the liberals continue on promoting this whiners crusade going on in Wisconsin. Average Americans are out here struggling to pay their bills and to eat and these people in Wisconsin are whining about having to pay for more of their pension and healthcare when they are paid more and have better benefits than 95% of the rest of us? The inclination when reading about this is to say, “F#$% them. They need to grow up”.

@@

February 21st, 2011
4:46 pm

Better hope Lukashenko in Belarus doesn’t experience problems with his upcoming elections. He’s saying he’ll use the military to suppress any opposition.

In response to a question about Belarus’s domestic policies, President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela said “We see here a model social state like the one we are beginning to create.”

There will be protests in Caracas tomorrow.

Venezuelan university students will hold a protest march Feb. 22 in Caracas to support hunger strikers demanding human rights improvements, Globovision reported Feb. 21. The march will begin at the Canadian Embassy and head toward the Venezuelan Foreign Ministry.

They’re piling up, these protests.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:47 pm

Kamchak,

“f mercenaries are in this fight, does anyone know where Erik Prince is?”

Interestingly enough right in the neighborhood:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/world/18blackwater.html

pat

February 21st, 2011
4:48 pm

It’s amazing how you can take the jaw dropping protests occuring all over the middle east, then turn it to be a democrat talking point on conservatism? Hello stupid.

The Lybians have balls, no other way to put it, so do the Iranians. They are rising up too, and the Iranian gov is shooting them as well.

What if it works? What if all the regimes topple? Saudi Arabia next? Hope so.

Glenn Beck

February 21st, 2011
4:49 pm

See. I told you. And I was right.

AmVet

February 21st, 2011
4:50 pm

SHOCK & AWE! SHOCK & AWE! SHOCK & AWE!

We’ll be greeted as liberators!

You go to war with the army you have.

If there’s a 1% chance that Libyans are helping al-Qaeda , we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response. It’s not about our analysis … It’s about our response.

America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

Oh, for the good old days when deadly and incompetent chickenhawks were calling the shots…

Jimmy62

February 21st, 2011
4:51 pm

Keep up: Not sure what your rant is supposed to mean. Have there been calls from the right to kill Ghaddafi? And as he slaughters his own people, are you saying that having him killed would be a bad thing?

All these revolutions are great. A lot of these places had stability, but everyone being poor and hungry, while stable, is not such a great existence. No one can know who each country will end up. Some will probably choose hard core Muslim leaders, and those countries will end up worse off, or just as bad, as they currently are. Some will choose secular Democracy, and though the next few years will be tough, they will be far better off in the long run. Just gotta wait and see.

Kamchak

February 21st, 2011
4:53 pm

jewcowboy

Figured as much, after all it’s where the action is.

@@

February 21st, 2011
4:54 pm

Jimmy62:

Have there been calls from the right to kill Ghaddafi?

Just mine.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:54 pm

Southern Comfort/ jt,

You should really see some the research Radley Balko has done on the subject. Here is his testimony before Congress.

http://reason.com/archives/2007/07/02/our-militarized-police-departm

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 21st, 2011
4:55 pm

Well, this Gadhafi guy sure is cracking down. I wonder if the people he’s killing are like those radical, dangerous teachers and guvmint workers in WI. Right now, I got nobody to root for in this Libya thing. I mean, if Gadhafi is a good strong Conservative then I say let the lead fly. But if he’s just a dictator that don’t care about the godly principles of the Right, then I say mow him down.

I’ll let you know who I’m rooting for as soon as I have a little talk with my buddy Jim Earl. He always understands this kind of stuff.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
4:56 pm

Jimmy62,

“Have there been calls from the right to kill Ghaddafi?”

Well @@ is calling for the assassination of his family.

Bosch

February 21st, 2011
4:56 pm

I can’t believe this guy is still around.

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
4:58 pm

jt

Personally, I don’t give a rats ass if people smoke weed. I also think that if it were legalized, there would be a drop in violence in the US, as well as an area of economic opportunity for our country. Let’s face it, there are not many areas left where we can expand our economy to create millions of jobs.

I think, but can’t answer for every case, that when officers do wrong, they get punished. I don’t like dirty cops, and I definitely do not like to see innocent ones gunned down needlessly. I’m not going to waste time arguing with you on government issues because it’s like talking to a brick wall. Your mind is set, and nothing will change it.

You may think of your link as a counter, but I see it as more reason that we need competent legislators and less jackesses in office.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:00 pm

Bosch,

“I can’t believe this guy is still around.”

Evidently gold epaulets/braid, massive shoulder pads and cheesy sunglasses contain some sort of life giving energy source…

@@

February 21st, 2011
5:01 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Gadhafi is suffering from a venereal disease. Somethin’s been eating at his brain.

Idi Amin was afflicted. Vladimir Lenin too.

Pogo

February 21st, 2011
5:03 pm

And Jay, I hate to veer “off topic” but you gotta love that Michelle Obama goes around telling the country that it needs to eat more healthy food to fight obesity meanwhile she and her girls feast on beef short ribs (which we all know is about one of the most unhealthy things that anyone can eat) on their ski retreat. And did you get a good look at the White Houses menu for their super bowl party (Chicken Wings, Sausages, etc.)? That is typical liberal leader hypocrisy which is “do as we say, not as WE do”. Liberals always know what is best for the “collective” even they don’t don’t do those things themselves. Kind of like Gore jetting around in a CO2 belching plane and with his houses whose carbon footprints are only rivaled by a super volcano. I bet Michelle has never met a rib she didn’t love.

TnGelding

February 21st, 2011
5:03 pm

Be careful what you wish for. To be true to our mantra we need to send covert troops to help some of the oppressed, but they’re tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan. He can’t kill everyone. He’s toast. It’s just a matter of how many innocents have to die. Is Obama the new leader of the Muslim world? Did he lay the ground for the uprisings?

Cannon Fodder

February 21st, 2011
5:03 pm

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:04 pm

@@,

“Somethin’s been eating at his brain.”

http://health.learninginfo.org/gold-poisoning-symptoms.htm

Those darned sunglasses and epaulets…

jm

February 21st, 2011
5:04 pm

Buy oil. higher oil prices drive up inflation. so good to be short treasuries too. in my opinion..

cheers. love busy holidays…. :)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 21st, 2011
5:05 pm

jimmy62, besides @@, I have seen a number of other calls from righties but 1 is all that matters. As for someone killing him, no love lost there… and I believe justified. But not the US job to do it. And if you really care about those people, is it only right to care when they are killed but starving or suffering is okay?

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
5:06 pm

The core issues are that the government workers don’t want to have to live up to the same work rules and standards as the private sector and their union bosses want more and more money for themselves by forcing everyone “covered” under the union/government contract to pay union dues (whether those indiviudals want to or not).

BULLSH*T!!!!!!!! I don’t know what kind of work you do, but if my work isn’t A+ every day, somebody could be standing behind you in Wal Mart with a suicide belt on. Do you have that kind of pressure on you at work at a daily basis? Do you have to try to read someone’s mind to determine whether they’re coming here for fun or coming to possibliy kill you and your family? When your job requires you to deal with that pressure all day on a daily basis, then you can compare your job to mine.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:06 pm

Pogo,

“That is typical liberal leader hypocrisy which is “do as we say, not as WE do”.”

You have heard of something called moderation right? If they ate short ribs every night of the week, that might be an issue…but on vacation? Sheesh…you must bored.

jt

February 21st, 2011
5:06 pm

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

Good reply but you are the one that posted that article about how many Police have been killed.

I get sick at the publicity of them, when it seems that no one cares for the others.

There is a reason why your beloved Federal government keeps statistics on “officers down” but refuses to keep statistics on “wrongful deathes”.

We CAN’T morally lecture ANYONE. ..Actually we can………but the world is laughing at our hypocrisy.

Roni and Charity Bowers
BOWERS.THUMBNAIL.JPG

On April 20, 2001, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency ordered the Peruvian air force to shoot down a plane suspected of smuggling drugs out of Peru. The plane was not carrying drugs but rather American religious missionaries Jim and Roni Bowers; Roni and 7-month-old daughter Charity died in the shooting.

@@

February 21st, 2011
5:07 pm

Cowboy:

Well @@ is calling for the assassination of his family.

Not his ENTIRE family. Just the males.

During my liberal days, I felt bad when we bombed his residence killing his baby daughter. Felt bad for the baby but not the “good” Colonel.

Del

February 21st, 2011
5:09 pm

The administration has not had much to say about the mess in Libya or too much about the Middle East protests generally. I guess because they looked so clueless and impotent during the Egyptian uprising they’re keeping a lower profile and only weighing in on Governor Walker’s union busting in Wisconsin. Of course once again, they’re looking clueless and impotent in this domestic situation as well.

AmVet

February 21st, 2011
5:09 pm

Pogo, one itsy bitsy little problem with your cogent “analysis”.

The First Lady ain’t obese.

Do you even understand the definition of hypocrisy?

You need a compendium of logical fallacies to actually learn what it is that you use as arguments…

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:09 pm

@@,

“Not his ENTIRE family. Just the males.”

Ahh…I’m sure that distinction makes sense…I’m just not seeing it.

TnGelding

February 21st, 2011
5:10 pm

Dave R.

February 21st, 2011
5:11 pm

“Evidently gold epaulets/braid, massive shoulder pads and cheesy sunglasses contain some sort of life giving energy source…”

Not to mention the occasional “chin slinky” :D

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:11 pm

Del,

“I guess because they looked so clueless and impotent during the Egyptian uprising they’re keeping a lower profile”

Just out of curiosity…why does the US have to comment on everything that happens in the world. I have a sneaking suspicion you would have a problem no matter what the President said…or didn’t say.

AmVet

February 21st, 2011
5:11 pm

Just the males? Infants included?

Sounds rather Herodian…

Kamchak

February 21st, 2011
5:11 pm

And did you get a good look at the White Houses menu for their super bowl party…

Yeah, because the spread for one party = every day menu. :roll:

Teh stoopid, it burns. Oi!

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
5:12 pm

Especially if those dues are paid for by private sector taxpayers (which is where the revenue to fund the public service workers unions dues emanates).

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! If that statement were anywhere near the truth, I’d vote for you as governor. Quit while you’re close behind, bro. Union dues comes from the PAYCHECK of public sector employees. If you’re going to make such a dubious claim as that, then you might as well say that every friggin’ penny of a public sector’s paycheck that they spend is taxpayer money. Hell, you’re paying union dues, buying gas, paying mortgages, paying car notes, buying lap dances, or anything else that person spends their money on. GEEZ!!!!!!!!!

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:16 pm

Dave R.,

“chin slinky” ?

Del

February 21st, 2011
5:16 pm

jewcowboy, do you suspect that I don’t think much of Obama’s handling of foreign and domestic affairs and that I won’t be voting for him should he seek another term in 012?

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:17 pm

Pogo,

“I bet Michelle has never met a rib she didn’t love.”

According the bible…most women haven’t.

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
5:17 pm

The idea that conservatives approve of genocide and asasination is far out of line. Have we forgotten the Holocaust, Stalin’s killings and Genghis Khan, etc. etc. ? Christians have not. Except for defense of their nation and its people have Christians gone to war. They have no joy in killing fellow human beings.

Gadhafi is doing a political genocide. Kill all those who disagree with his rule. An old reason indeed. Not one we agree with.

I am disappointed in TAXPAYER. He has even tried to involve somehow President Bush in this talk of killing. Even suggesting that democracy is not a goal to promote. How low can you get in politics? Not much lower than that.

My only suggestion at this point is to call upon the UN to do what is was established to do. That is, a try at keeping this world in order. I applaud those who protest for human rights in their country. That is different from slaughtering those in disagreement as done in Syria, Kurdistan and Libya. Let us hope that those in the Middle East see the difference.

Dave R.

February 21st, 2011
5:17 pm

Scruffy, less-than-full beard, jewcowboy.

Doggone/GA

February 21st, 2011
5:17 pm

“If you’re going to make such a dubious claim as that, then you might as well say that every friggin’ penny of a public sector’s paycheck that they spend is taxpayer money”

Anything to be a victim. It’s just unAmerican to be expected to pay for services received…right? /snark

@@

February 21st, 2011
5:18 pm

Sounds rather Herodian…

And abortion on demand doesn’t?

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
5:18 pm

jt

How do you know statistics are not kept? Anytime an incident happens that results in the loss of innocent lives, there’s always analysis done to see what could have prevented that. Just because YOU don’t see anything doesn’t mean that nothing is going on. You act as if all law enforcement are robots or something. We have families just like everyone else. And, the statistics I got were not from the federal government….

The Officer Down Memorial Page, Inc., (ODMP) is a non-profit organization dedicated to honoring America’s fallen law enforcement heroes. More than 20,000 officers have made the ultimate sacrifice in the United States and it is with great honor that the ODMP pays a lasting tribute to each of these officers by preserving their memories within its pages. All who visit the ODMP will be deeply moved by the countless stories of selfless courage and heroism exhibited by officers who lost their lives while serving and protecting the citizens of this great nation.

A non-profit just as you posted. That’s ok. I’ll still protect you even though I know you have no love for my profession. I don’t take it personal.

TnGelding

February 21st, 2011
5:18 pm

(E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
5:12 pm

And you’d be right!?

Dave R.

February 21st, 2011
5:19 pm

“I am disappointed in TAXPAYER.”

Isn’t that just stating the obvious? :D

jm

February 21st, 2011
5:19 pm

BTW. Libya is awful. Let’s hope the nutjob doesn’t follow through on what he says.

AmVet

February 21st, 2011
5:21 pm

And abortion on demand doesn’t?

No.

He just murdered Jewish children.

Figures

February 21st, 2011
5:21 pm

I thought after Libya rid itself of WMD that the Bush administration had deemed them to be a friend of America. After all, Gadhafi is no friend of Islamic extremism.

Shoot. You ever see some of the eye candy the man has at his side?

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:21 pm

Del @ 5.16,

Just a little inkling. Now, again, why do you feel Obama needs to weigh in on a situation that is monitored as it develops? Wouldn’t the be a little imprudent?

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/21/white-house-monitors-situation-libya

But…doesn’t Intel have a freaking cool green room…

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:23 pm

Dave R. @ 5.17,

Ahhh..gotcha ;)

TnGelding

February 21st, 2011
5:24 pm

I thought he wasn’t doing enough to create jobs? You just can’t satisfy some people.

Tommy Maddox

February 21st, 2011
5:26 pm

Well, now we see that Pres. Bush’s plot to cause oil prices to rise to benefit all of his oil friends is coming to fruition.

jm

February 21st, 2011
5:27 pm

BTW, 1 more. I hope BP loses all its $ in Libya. After their BS Lockerbie deal, they deserve to lose every red cent and more.

Del

February 21st, 2011
5:28 pm

jewcowboy, I don’t I think he should say anything if he doesn’t have grasp. He may have learned his lesson during the Egyptian crises where members of his administration made numerous contradictory statements. Although, in the past our presidents as leaders of the free world have typically communicated America’s position strongly on events such as what’s now occurring in Libya, Iran and the Middle East.

barking frog

February 21st, 2011
5:29 pm

the same people who put mubarak in power are busy
providing his replacement and the colonel will be replaced
as well…new world order…

@@

February 21st, 2011
5:29 pm

He just murdered Jewish children.

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace–Ephesians 2:15

Jews and Gentiles alike.

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
5:29 pm

Sonny Boy was right about one thing, Libya’s not Egypt or Tunisia. There’s no way of knowing what’s really going on there and no way to predict which way it will go.

One thing is certain, though, the Mid East meltdown is coming on President Obama’s watch. We’ll see. No small part of this, whether or not we want to admit it, is coming from his new stance foreign policy. We’ll see if we have any friends left once the uprisings reach the resolution stages. Personally, I think there’s going to be a lot of disappointed people.

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
5:30 pm

Tommy Maddox, 5:26

Do you know how crazy you sound? President bush’s PLOT???

AmVet

February 21st, 2011
5:34 pm

Regarding BHO’s impotency in Egypt, I concur.

Here we have all these 2,000 lb. bunker busters and Predators just sitting around gathering dust.

Shameful, for such great armaments to go to waste.

And to josef’s point, he surged into Afghanistan (without so much as the first thank you or salute from the acolytes in the War Always Party), so it appears that we’ll get the chance to see if he really is George’s half-black nephew…

TnGelding

February 21st, 2011
5:35 pm

We’d rather be “friends” with ruthless dictators than support freedom and democracy?

barking frog

February 21st, 2011
5:36 pm

The world cannot allow our most valuable commodity to
be controlled by these puny little dictators..all must go.

jt

February 21st, 2011
5:36 pm

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 21st, 2011
5:18 pm

jt

How do you know statistics are not kept?

Let me reframe my statement. Statistics are not SHOWN to the public.

Prove me wrong…..you can’t. Moammer Gadhafi kills 200. No different than 4 in Ohio.IMHO.

Statism always ends this way.

Cannon Fodder—————————–back at you—————————-

Excellent soundtrack.
Too close to the truth to be popular………………WAR,INC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXY8GsfnzE4

I’m out to enjoy the short-lived peace.

In closing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,on President’s day, let me offer————-From Robert Higgs—————

Great Leader, who art in Washington,

Hallowed be thy name.

Thy empire come,

thy will be done,

on earth as it is in the Oval Office.

Give us this day our daily dole.

And forgive us our late tax filings,

as we forgive the IRS for refunding our overpayments without interest.

And lead us not into temptation,

but deliver us from the DEA.

For thine is the federal prison system, the FBI, the military, the CIA, the regulatory agencies, the Surveillance State, and all the rest of the tyrannical apparatus under which we groan, not to mention

the power and the glory,

for ever and ever (unless justice is done sooner).

Amen.

Pogo

February 21st, 2011
5:37 pm

Yep, Taxpayer, $5.00 gas is what we “republicans” really, really wanted. Afterall, we don’t have to pay that price at the pump because we receive a “special” discount. Meanwhile, your weakling in the Whitehouse and his EPA do nothing but stymy domestic production of our own oil and natural gas resources just to cowtow to his liberal base and to prop up the financial standings of those Corporate interests (such as GE) that support him. He is basing all of his decisions upon what is best for these corporate and political “Green” friends like Immelt at GE and the unions. Face it, your president is as much bought off by the labor unions and by the Corporations (if not more than) than any previous US president. Each presidency has its masters and this ones masters are trully an unsavory bunch which he cannot control. GE received taxpayer bailout dollars and Obama approved it because of NBC’s support during his campaign. Obama is beholding to Immelt and Immelt knows it. Bush and his connection to oil is small change compared to Obama and his corporate buddies. On the other hand, if gas is $4/gallon in November of next year your boy is gone. Americans have an innate ability to see a loser and they are seeing one with Obama. Jay keeps saying Obama wins in the next election but the reality is that both houses of our government will probably go to the Republicans next year. Even if Obama wins, which at this point is very questionable, he won’t be able to do anything after the 2012 elections. After experiencing Obama, Reid and Pelosi in control for just two short years, middle America has had it with progressives/liberals. We are worse off than we were before.

TnGelding

February 21st, 2011
5:37 pm

It’s the commodity speculators that have to go.

barking frog

February 21st, 2011
5:39 pm

whether you like it or not, Islam, like christianity and judaism has
always been motivated by the love of money….

Dusty

February 21st, 2011
5:40 pm

Well, I did not intentionally finish the last post at 5:30. . But posting with crazies gets harder sometimes.

JOSEF,

While agreeing that President Obama is not the veteran foreign policy man we need, I do not think he can be blamed in any way for what has hit the Middle East. I think trouble was brewing a long time and the spark from WikiLeaks started a small fire in Tunisian that got the big one going.

I don’t believe anything that President Obama could have done or said could have prevented this wide uprising. Many guessed at its approach but few were certain when it would come. .

@@

February 21st, 2011
5:42 pm

Cowboy:

Ahh…I’m sure that distinction makes sense…I’m just not seeing it.

If it makes you feel better, I’d spare the one that committed parenticide.

jewcowboy

February 21st, 2011
5:42 pm

Del,

“in the past our presidents as leaders of the free world have typically communicated America’s position strongly on events such as what’s now occurring in Libya, Iran and the Middle East.”

How is he not doing that?

“In a written statement issued Friday, Mr. Obama offered his condolences to the families of those killed during the demonstrations, and Monday the senior administration official once again called for “the need to avoid violence against peaceful protesters,” reiterating the need to respect universal human rights, including the right to peaceful assembly.

The senior official said the administration is considering “all appropriate actions.”

I’m just making the point that when someone is critical of everything the President says and does, his credibility on the President’s job performance is a bit suspect.

Anywho…I have to walk the wieners…have a pleasant evening.

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Del

February 21st, 2011
5:44 pm

joseph, further deterioration in the Middle East will make us all very disappointed in many ways regardless of political preference, we’ll all feel the pain. Based on that fact, I don’t wish the president ill in whatever foreign policies the administration puts forth in the Middle East, I just don’t have confidence that he’s the best for the job. Should he step up and show foreign relation skills that I don’t believe he possess, I’ll applaud and please remind me I said that should I forget.

Doggone/GA

February 21st, 2011
5:44 pm

“whether you like it or not, Islam, like christianity and judaism has
always been motivated by the love of money”

You’re blaming the religion for the faults that belong to the PEOPLE involved

josef nix

February 21st, 2011
5:45 pm

GELDING
“We’d rather be “friends” with ruthless dictators than support freedom and democracy?”

Yes.

Frog
“whether you like it or not, Islam, like christianity and judaism has
always been motivated by the love of money

No. People have been motivated by the love of money. Jews, Muslims, and Christians have no special propensity that direction. The homo sapiens is the aquisitive ape.