On tonight’s Travelin’ Music, Justin Bieber … NOT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbM5HkG2FWk

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My new favorite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEDA3JcQqw

Reminds me of something you would here on a Mad Men trailer.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7X2eriCgws

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Jay, it was getting ugly downstairs!

Just kidding, but that godless heathen was talking sedition in regards to no music! (And I dutifully joined in!)

Nice, nice selection.

Back in the day, Stevie, along with Sir Paul and TR, was one of a tiny handful who could play all of the instruments on any given record.

A true genius and an American treasure.

I foresee many good things ahead for Ms. Spalding…

Just one of many Stevie Wonder favorites…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fihlBfuA2B4

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1975 was a very good year, this is what I remember-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuKklBRlzY

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Ahhhh! Friday is complete. Cold suds, new charcoal grill. Some burgers with extra fat to drip on the Kingsford.

Excellant choice, Jay.

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@jewcowbot – When does the new Mad Men season begin?

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They will be at the Buckhead theater on the 25th:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDDyD0Hj5n0

Oh…and this particular video is for Bosch and Paul.

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After my visit to Canada I’ve been spelling things strangely.

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jc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-ClvcHtK4

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N-GA,

It was supposed to be Summer, but I’ve heard they are pushing back until Fall. I hope not…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0uCm08fahw

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For Bro SoCo, likely from one of the only white kids from Kansas who ever bought <Skin Tight…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHLz5ZcVVLc

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SFD – You’re too damn young! I was in boarding school when this came out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIfgwNJkCMI

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37,

“It’s a good think Obama is not a Clinton or she would be toast ”

Naw…she’s too pretty..and her hips aren’t nearly wide enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1c2KzJbcGA

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Stevie playing drums with a certain guitarist-

holy crap. Never heard that, thanks!

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Got to head out but nice guy, you ain’t-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSvnn4ky4d8

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUgHehigVEo

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Ms. Spalding is sure easy on the eyes as well as the ears. The diastema can be overlooked.

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Lady49, sweet.

As you probably already know, we like to mix up all that chocolate, vanilla, and every other flavor we can.

From one of the greatest “comeback” records ever…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ysh1c0hmfo

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Geez Jay, I’ve been posting some of Ms. Spalding’s work for a few weeks now. Glad you finally noticed.

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If we’re talking stand up bass, John Kahn is one of the best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-WXvGsb5Y

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http://uploading.com/files/1cce3f92/Justin%2BBieber%2B-%2BNever%2BSay%2BNever%2BThe%2Bmovie%2B2011.mkv/

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The missing tooth of Ms. Spaulding only heightens her sexiness.
Can’t appreciate Jazz unless I have an expensive drink in my hand.

Here is the best imho Stevie.And the best year imho.And this bass isn’t too shabby either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tCeAZ1nQjk

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Lee Rocker is his name

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AmVet..that was really nice…and one of my all time favorites….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDRLZFgEoGw

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josef

I love me some CC, and it’s vanilla suburbs…. Check out my 6:26….
I’m getting a little rowdy this weekend

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Lee Rocker. Great name for a rock star. Almost as cool as Idol!

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SoCo, as you and I have discussed before, that record is really a mind blower. On a lot of levels. I discovered it years after it came out and was blown away by the talent, the musical and lyrical themes and the production quality.

Lady49, I’ve always been all over the place musically. I remember back in the 90s discovering this program on NPR called Afro Pop Worldwide.

http://www.afropop.org/

Not too surprising, as I came of age musically listening to this revolutionary…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozLHwHcXIvk

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0—Q97pG4&NR=1

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Bruno

Did you say bass????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipjTvRe7-Zg

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SoCo

I did. You are!

…oh, and AmVet…here ya go… from downstairs earlier,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ

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Well, dinner awaits. probably done here–pleasant evening, all.

and Bruno @ 6.35, yeah, nice bass work there, but I like my great bass performances in a somewhat more concise setting…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzLky4U-xCg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzLky4U-xCg

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SoCo

But….do you study MAJOR historians?

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A Willie Dixon penned tune, sung by another pretty good bass player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9dt88-BlIM

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josef

Not as of yet. I’m still busy picking thru the smaller guys. I wanna make sure some of them get some readership.

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AmVet…

Well, if we’re reliving our revolutionary past…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGaRtqrlGy8

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Hillbilly

Not downstairs…earlier when I got taken to the woodshed…SoCo didn’t though, and he did it, too!

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Man has knife blade removed from his skulled. Was not aware it was there. Amazing!

http://www.comcast.net/video/Doctors-Find-Blade-Lodged-in-Mans-Skull/1803499750/ABCNews/newest/

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Virdeen was no slouch on the bass either:

You’ll get no argument from me on that one. Those guys have influenced so many, that it goes beyond funk and r&b nowadays…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6jElKMMOWM&feature=related

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@@

Happy birthday, whenever your birthday is. (IWH)

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Another one for those wily Wisconsin Democrats

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Happy Birthday @@!!!!!!

LOL @ RW!!!!

Quite appropriate…

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RW

And for them from Wisconsin’s great musician to them up there…wherever up there is…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAh1IMGexH8

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josef, your 5:58 should have been opened by just about everybody on that last thread.

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Well, I got to admit I’m a little jealous of @@ setting next to Leon Redbone. Even us rednecks like his music. And I got it on a note pad @@’s birthday is February 14. She told us that herself a few weeks ago.

Tho you won’t thank me for hauling the stuff you’re drinking tonight, I want you to have good music swapping and goodnight everybody.

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Thank you, Hillbilly and Soco.

I asked Leon to sing “Seduced”….he sang a bit but then said “You wouldn’t be so inclined were you to see the guy who wrote that song….a really short fellow.”

Speaking of teachers unions….just read where the CTU (Chicago Teachers Union) has endorsed this guy for city alderman.

Named after Che Guevara and a big fan of Che’s.

It’s inconceivable that a bunch of teachers would support a self-proclaimed revolutionary who romanticizes about Che Guevara. They need to read Alvaro Vargas Llosa’s “The Che Guevara Myth and the Future of Liberty”.

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@@

You never cease to amaze me! A LOT of people need to read Vargas Llosa…

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Loved your selections Lady49, jewcowboy and AmVet (you’re pretty fly for a white guy )

Here’s my contribution. I’ve always loved this artist’s voice and her control and since the theme is jazz/female artists, I am more than happy to share her with you guys. Have a good friday everybody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uucSuUiKvcg

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josef:

I used to be pretty liberal. Did a little romanticizing myself. The truth set me free.

Group says Gov. Scott Walker threatened to send out the National Guard if workers protest his proposed changes to bargaining laws

Who are they?

Progressive Change Campaign Committee

Citizen Action of Wisconsin

BIG LIE! PANTS-ON-FIRE LIE!!!!

Media that repeated the lie?

Milwaukee-based Biz Times Daily

The Associated Press

Milwaukee public radio station WUWM-FM

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And for all of those in the top ten most deficit ridden/heavily public employee unionized states in this country, I offer the following

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzCjGgrewYY

Go for it man! As they said, “If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain’t gonna make with anyone anyhow!

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Hey, Deb!

Hillbilly

Thanks…!

jewcowboy

“…don’t be a drag, just be a queen…” And I don’t care what anybody says, I LIKE her…

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This is the only song I could think of for Wisconsin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQEsg0el_NA

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Road Hog… are you on tonight? 0311….saw your post the other night. I have been out enjoying the weather, but I have been keeping up here. Hope you are doing OK.

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BADA BING,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Wmpkqen7w

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@@ 8:46

National Guard ? Great !

It’s been a long time since we’ve seen knuckleheads putting flower stems in the barrels of rifles !

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BADA BING !

Don’t do that again. I need you here to provide some levity for these sourpuss liberals !

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Rush bass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mR0tzt9XaM

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joseph:

The “Slash” girls are 9:16 are a very poor imitation of “Bond” !

Here’s the real deal ………………….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWzwKBoW_OA

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josef nix,

I actually like this better. DeBeers knew what it was doing when had Karl Jenkins compose this…and the ladies of Escala just add the icing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6XNCNIRub0

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37,
“The “Slash” girls are 9:16 are a very poor imitation of “Bond”

hehe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/classicalmusic/5172062/Escala-v-Bond-battle-of-the-girl-quartets.html

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I did say there are some who debate with a level head…. However, you know there are some who come here intent on banging heads from the go.

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Del,

I was thinking this was more a little more appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlXKfFPx7po

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uxL5PUM6NI

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jewcowboy, Candi is much better looking.

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0311… remember when we were concerned with the Domino Theory, whereas if one nation fell to Communism, then it would spread to the next country and so on? Now we are seeing the same thing in Syria, Jordan, Tunesia, Iran, except with democracy this time. Crazy stuff is coming.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgiR04ey7-M

Not exactly a good representation of today’s society. With all the stuff going on from the town hall meetings, to the budget debate, to the stuff in Wisconsin, I think it would be in everyone’s best interest to step back and take a deep breath. When anger boils over in this country, it usually doesn’t end in a pretty manner.

Catch y’all later on sometime……………

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Scout

What you mean, sourpuss liberal…only the white ones…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UBNBfJjbBE&feature=related

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josef….how are you my man? I have talked my brother into reading the Relacion. He found a copy in a Cobb Library. He is halfway thru and is finding it very interesting. Hope you are well.

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Here’s a tip for the cops looking for the Wisconsin Democrats

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Southern Comfort,

“When anger boils over in this country, it usually doesn’t end in a pretty manner.”

“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” ~ Anne Frank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPy64IgG58

Last week i had the strangest dream
Where everything was exactly how it seemed
Where there never any mystery on who shot john f kennedy
It was just a man with something to prove
Slightly bored and severely confused
He steadied his rifle with his target in the center
And became famous on that day in november

Dont wake me i plan on sleeping in

And then last night i had that strange dream
Where everything was exactly how it seemed
Where concerns about the world getting warmer
The people thought they were just being rewarded
For treating others as they like to be treated
For obeying stop signs and curing diseases
For mailing letters with the address of the sender
Now we can swim any day in november

Dont wake me i plan on sleeping
(now we can swim any day in november)
Dont wake me i plan on sleeping in

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I guess you can understand the democrat men hiding out in Wisconsin, while Republican men can stand proud.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/humour/199501/1/Republican-women-versus-Democrat-women-Funny-video

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Left hand knoweth not what right hand doeth !

Headline: “Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called Israeli settlements “illegitimate” shortly before the United States vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning continued Israeli settlement expansion as illegal.’

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Somehow this started coming to mind toward the end of Del’s slide show

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This for the great american union workers, never quit, never give up-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY

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37,

““You’re talking to a Southern Baptist Deacon”

…………. end of conversation.”

Good one! I’m still chuckling with that…

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jewcowboy

I love dogs, too, but they’re sycophants…as you can tell, I’m a cat person! Scr*w you and where’s my albacore…?

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jcb, that Escala was yummy. And the Zep cover was good too!

Right from the beginning, Entwhistle had that driving, monster backbeat…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eswQl-hcvU0

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Unions built this country with their blood and sweat after WW!!. Mock them if it makes you feel good but a lot of their children are just trying to carry on that tradition, no matter what the jealous losers think-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaI5IRuS2aE

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Richard Trumka to the union public employees in Wisconsin…You are the Chumpions.

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This one is different and kind of refreshing ……………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jENcQINa1hA&feature=pyv&ad=8322824868&kw=country%20songs

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Mick,

Here is a tribute to Reagan and the GOP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQWHgkEPO6M

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/16390

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Mick:

I hate to tell you this but while their “brothers” were dying overseas, unions went on strike “DURING” World War Two for higher wages, etc.

Dispicable.

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0311/0317 – 1811/1801@10:54

Interesting – what about your brothers who went to vietnam and slaughtered innocents or iraq, do you bear the sins of your brothers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iLPnDCQ1g

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Del,

“I simply ask them if they believe in the trilogy and that Jesus Christ is God.”

I treat them the same as any solicitors…I ask them politely to heed the “no solicitors” sign posted and to leave my property post haste before I release my dogs on them. The discussion ends pretty quick after that. Of course, my other favorite is to ask them their church’s views on wildebeest on goat love…they beat a pretty quick retreat on that one as well…

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jewcowboy, you’re a bad a$$.

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BADA

Doing fine and dandy, thankyee kindly…

G’night all…

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Jehovah witness people come by and I am amazed at their faith. I always offer a drink and sometimes discuss theology. Very devoted and harmless, good people-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2cCuadivpE

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Scout, this will choke you up no matter how hard Corps anyone thinks they are.

http://biggeekdad.com/2010/01/tango-mike-mike/

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Del:

Yes it did. Saw it the other day.

BTW, do you get “Vietnam Magazine” ?

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Thanks for that sweet song, jcb.

It’s easy to allow the baser parts of us to rule, but I think down deep we are all angels. If we’ll just let it out…

I’m off to see the sandman and I’ll leave FNM with this gem…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLzOoNRaGFs&feature=fvst

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37,

“I hate to tell you this but “no soliciting” signs have no legal authority unless you are in a gated community”

Oh…I have no illusions…the sign in quite small…and it is mounted on on a brass plaque on both the retaining wall at the front steps and on the front porch after they have climbed 19 steps to get there. I just like to point out the repercussions of their ignoring the plaque at the retaining wall before they climbed the stairs and I shut the door in their face. It’s especially satisfying in the summer.

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Okay time for shut eye, it’s going to be a beautiful weekend. Taps

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Del:

It always has some good articles. You might find it interesting.

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jewcowboy:

Fair enough ………………………. )

BTW: Why don’t Jewish people go door to door inviting people to synogogue?

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37,

“Sleeping Pills”

Don’t you love the non-politically correctness?

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37,

“BTW: Why don’t Jewish people go door to door inviting people to synogogue?”

Small profit margin?

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jewcowboy @ 11:39

LOL !!

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jewcowboy:

Political correctness ? Yep, he would never get by with that today !

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jewcowboy,

The Cowboy Junkies version of Sweet Jane is by far the best IMO. Anybody that doesn’t have the Trinity Sessions handy should.

I’m not sure this link will play, but if it does they did a damn fine job on this one too

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bass head,

Ted gets so dirty…

Considering the hour…I’m reminding of this in my youth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og1HAkjOuL0

Now is when we would have begun to think about getting ready to go out to the clubs.

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I’ve got your haunting right here

/at the risk of the Jay B blog going off the grid for the night…. The 12:09 was pretty damn good though

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RW-(the original),

LOL! I may have to get that.

“at the risk of the Jay B blog going off the grid for the night”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl4tWRsOxV0

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RW-(the original) – what is it about midnight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtIEkdTlnC8

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Not sure about midnight, but a1/4 after 1 comes to mind. In fact I think that’s when Midori always calls me

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jcb,

G’night you cynical beast.

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RW-(the original),

G’night.

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mornin’.

For everyone in WI fighting the good fight: there’s millions like us.

“unless you’re putting something in, you’ll get nothin’ back…”

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Maybe we can get a resolution to support the wi teachers this morning. I will be sure to bring it up. Union forever!

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Maybe we can get a resolution to support the wi teachers this morning. I will be sure to bring it up. Union forever!

The saving grace of Republican control is that they’re too stupid to stay in office long. They always carry their ideology too far, with the result that voters boot them in the next election. You’ll see
the same thing happen in 2012. Voters won’t put up with extremism. The Democrats learned that in 2010, and the Republicans will re-learn it in 2012.

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How do you drown a republican?

Put a scratch n sniff sticker at the bottom of a pool.

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How do you keep a tea bagger occupied?

Put em in a round room and tell em to sit in the corner.

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Stands

That’s the plan. Might even try to send em money to finance it. We will see.

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What’s the difference between a teabagger and a bag of manure?

The manure is useful.

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Dudley

You and I both know that. I’m waiting on somebody from the GOP camp to either come up with a viable answer, or just own up to the fact that neither one does what they’re claiming it will do. Truth in advertising is all I’m asking for.

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SoCo

Yea I know, just leaving them some jokes to think about. They might not hurt themselves trying to understand the jokes.

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Please….oh please…..

Let the TSA,FBI,CIA, DEA.ATF,EPA, and all local cops go own strike too.

Just a drive by wish.

You can resume your little Union party.

Thank you and may the state bless you.

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Warning, soap box time. But I think this needs to be said.

One would think that given six and a half days a week, it is enough for the louts here to make their point.

But nope, some of the bigger sanctimonious lamebrains feel compelled do their best to foul FNM, as well. Pretty much every single Friday night.

To wit:

0311/0317 – 1811/1801
February 18th, 2011
10:54 pm

Dispicable.

Firstly, he hates to say it? I call BS.He LOVES to say it. The fact is that he is a non-stop basher of all union men and women.

And that is not even the biggest misrepresentation.

Nearly all the unions that belonged to the CIO were fully supportive of both the war effort and of the Roosevelt administration. The CIO, in particular the United Auto Workers (UAW), supported a wartime no-strike pledge that aimed to eliminate not only major strikes for new contracts, but also the innumerable small strikes called by shop stewards and local union leadership to protest particular grievances.

Even though the complaints from union members about the no-strike pledge became louder and more bitter, the CIO did not abandon it. The Mine Workers, by contrast, who did not belong to either the AFL or the CIO for much of the war, engaged in a successful twelve-day strike in 1943.

Maybe our paragon of truth can provide some damning details.

So who and what is dispicable here? (And for gawd sakes buy a friggin dictionary!”)

More like Dipsh*table.

BTW, next Friday night, I would *strongly* encourage you to shut your constantly yammering yap, as I for one (And I feel certain that I am not alone here), am fed up with your same dispicable cr@p that you unload here all week long.

Soap box off/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxClQ_pInzc

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Amvet

Bravo, bravissimo, fettuccini, ravioli, and all that Italian crap.

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amvet

Morning, and I see you’re still rockin in the USA, this is all they care about, unions have nothing to do with it,have a kickin day-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6NfQyNLto

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It just totally amazes me that the republicans support the organization of protests overseas, but try to bust the same type of organizations here in the US.

The hypocrisy is killing me

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Here’s the way I see it, spot on-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/the-republican-strategy_b_825206.html

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SoCo,

Do you have a link to anybody claiming that either of those two things you’re asking about will balance the budget?

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Actually, it doesn’t take much to bump Bieber.

As to his becoming MVP in basketball? Well, it is easy to fool a kid and make him feel important. Does no harm, I suppose.

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SoCo,

There’s a humongous difference between pointing to something extraneous in a bill and making the claim that somebody said those extraneous things were central to the intended result of the bill. Perhaps if the Democrats would do the job they were elected to do they could get those provisions stripped.

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Hey guys ……… no kidding on this one ………. it’s really neat (National Geographic).

Enjoy ! I’m going out to enjoy the day !

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=2HiUMlOz4UQ&vq=large

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Well I’ll be damned. A sleeve of Titleist Pro V1’s just showed up begging to be hit. Catch y’all in the PM.

Just rub it in, dude……

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AmVet:

But nope, some of the bigger sanctimonious lamebrains feel compelled do their best to foul FNM, as well. Pretty much every single Friday night.

And it was only two weeks ago when you said this:

Friday nights at JB’s place are such fun. In no small part because it is the ONE time when the invective-filled lil bb’s of the blogging world stay away.

And via music, communion and brotherhood are allowed their rightful place among us…

Prone to mood swings, are ‘ya?

No matter how hard you try…being dicktated to ain’t somethin’ conservatives will accept. YOU, Amvet don’t get to call the shots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duns4wOSfao

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Have the cut-n-run Wisconsin Democrats been found yet? Buncha children. Hey Dems: the people voted. You lost. Now get over it and sit in the back! Note the liberal media is not upset at regressive liberal Democrats shutting down government (that only happens when Cons attempt to do it). The Gov should fire all the teachers ala Reagan. But he won’t do it. $90k in wages and benefits sounds well above “fair” to me for a teacher, especially considering that’s about 50% above the national average for a state government service employee. Anyone seen the DNC media put it that way? Get your kids out of public schools and put them in private schools. Rapidly. Better yet, just move the hell out of the state. Show them who the REAL boss is with a for sale sign in the yard…

…Like they’ve been doing in Chicago. Can we say The Community Organizer is needed again?

“CHICAGO—A larger-than-expected exodus over the past 10 years reduced the population of Chicago to a level not seen in nearly a century. The U.S. Census Bureau reported Tuesday that during the decade ended in 2010, Chicago’s population fell 6.9% to 2,695,598 people, fewer than the 2.7 million reported back in 1920.”

Another Gov makes a wise choice, this time over that farce of high speed rail that liberals for whatever reason like to deep throat:

“Gov. Rick Scott, citing concerns over potential cost overruns, rejected $2.4 billion in federal dollars to pay for construction of a high-speed rail line connecting Tampa and Orlando.”

Yaaaay! The first fight against scaremongering UN Global Walarminsts. Thanks Republicans!

“The Defund IPCC ‘amendment was sponsored by Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-Missouri), who read aloud on the floor from the 2009 U.S. Senate Report of more than 700 dissenting scientists! (Written by Climate Depot’s Morano) — Luetkemeyer: Americans ’should not have to continue to foot the bill for an (IPPC) organization to keep producing corrupt findings’”

Maybe Jimmy Carter is just trying to remind us that he’s as clueless and incompetent now regarding the Middle East as he was in 1978, among other things……is he still whining about Fox News?

“Carter says Egyptian military likely to obey will of people”

And then you have to love this meltdown of a Dallas County Commissioner – one can only imagine the uproar had the races been reversed…….Democrat, naturally…

“DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – Tuesday’s Dallas County Commissioner’s Court meeting erupted into an argument between Commissioner John Wiley Price and a citizen, ending with Price repeatedly telling several citizens to ‘go to hell.’…..As Price stood to leave, he looked at Turner and the five other citizens who addressed the court. Price said to them, “All of you are white. Go to hell!”

And Terence Jeffrey has a way to put Obama’s budget and government spending in general into perspective….

“Anyone who doubts that the trend toward socialism is pushing America toward ruin should examine the historical tables President Obama published Monday along with his $3.7 trillion budget.
In fiscal 2011, according to these tables, the Department of Health and Human Services will spend $909.7 billion. In fiscal 1965, the entire federal government spent $118.228 billion. What about inflation? According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ inflation calculator, $118.228 billion in 1965 dollars equals $822.6 billion in 2010 dollars. In real terms, the $909.7 billion HHS is spending this year is about $87.1 billion more than the entire federal government spent in 1965.”

The great unwashed masses think government is the answer to everything. Maybe others are right: Costa Rica is starting to sound damn good. We’ll know for sure which way the nation is headed permanently after 2012.

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Maybe our paragon of truth can provide some damning details.

Though I’m not 031, nor does the topic hold much interest for me, I (just because it’s AmVet) thought I’d offer some assistance.

schnirt

Lunch break’s over but some quick research found these little details:

Jerome Scott and George Homans of Harvard University studied wildcat strikes during WWII.

During the forty-four months from Pearl Harbor to V-J Day, there were 14,471 strikes involving 6,774,000 strikers: more than during any period of comparable length in United States history.29 In 1944 alone, 369,000 steel and iron workers, 389,000 auto workers, 363,000 other transportation equipment workers, and 278,000 miners were involved in strikes.30 In many cases, the “quickie” tactics were extremely effective in improving working conditions and easing the burden of company discipline. Workers virtually made extra holidays for themselves around Christmas and New Year’s, holding illicit plant parties and cutting production to a trickle. Workers often created free time for themselves on the job by other means. On one occasion, workers in an aircraft plant staged a necktie-cutting party in the middle of working hours, roaming through the plant snipping off ties of fellow workers, supervisors, and managers. The wildcat tradition and organization gave workers a direct counter-power over such management decisions as the speed of work, number of workers per task, assignment of foremen, and organization of work While the effects are impossible to measure, industry representatives claimed a decrease of “labor efficiency” of 20 to 50 percent during the war period.”

In many cases, the strikes were directed against decisions of the War Labor Board. For example, in October 1943, the union representing workers at the National Malleable and Steel Castings Company in Cleveland requested a wage increase from the board. After nine months, the board granted an increase of only two and one-half cents an hour; in late July, 1,100 workers struck against the decision. Similarly, maintenance workers in twenty Detroit-area auto plants struck in October 1944, idling 50,000, when their request for an eleven-cent increase in hourly wages sat before the board for nine months without action.

Indeed, most union leaders would have preferred to avoid the strikes of 1946 altogether. They led them only because the rank and file were determined to strike anyway, and only by leading the strikes could the unions retain control of them. In a widely cited Collier’s article, business analyst Peter F. Drucker pointed out that in the major strikes of 1945 and 1946, “it was on the whole not the leadership which forced the workers into a strike but worker pressure that forced a strike upon the reluctant leadership; most of the leaders knew very well that they could have gained as much by negotiations as they finally gained by striking. And again and again the rank and file of the union membership refused to go back to work.

http://libcom.org/history/world-war-ii-post-war-strike-wave#footnoteref58_4khfrpk

libcom…a leftist website where they’re proud of the workers’ strikes during WWII.

Back to the yard work. It’s a BIG’UN!

IYF!!!!

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Stevie Wonder? “I Believe”

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Why “Grand Bargains” always suck.

Villagers love the idea of a couple octogenarian senators – one conservative Republican, one conservative Democrat – hashing things out in some back room in the middle of the night, forging some “compromise” which can be quickly rushed through Congress without anyone having to put their fingerprints on it. They believe there are “tough choices” which involve additional misery for the most desperate and vulnerable, and that the voters can’t be trusted to support those choices. So we must have the grand bargain, the compromise blessed by everyone who matters without worrying the beautiful minds of voters.

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And Barney Frank………..and Weiner.

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For my nasty lil’ leghumper…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWj18LeU1g

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whoops, for some reason I was thinking of WI’s law in my 2.54 link. FL doesn’t do recalls, apparently…

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2011/02/dem-lawmaker-files-bill-allowing-recall-of-gov-and-cabinet.html

although some are trying to change that.

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If any of you see icebergs breaking thru the ground in the area, yes, hell has frozen over. We have a local politician, Republican at that, who has gone on record saying that a tax cut was the wrong thing to do when it was done. He’s probably just punted his chances for re-election, although I’m willing to bet that all will be forgotten by the time the next election comes around….

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/states-ignored-warnings-on-845625.html

States ignored warnings on unemployment insurance

“The decision to do this was not really based upon any practical reason. It was based on a political decision, which I think, by all accounts now, we can look back on and say it was the wrong decision,” Butler said. “Now we find ourselves in a situation where we’ve had to borrow money and that puts everyone in a tight situation.”

I wonder how many more tax cuts will be looked at in that manner 10+ years down the road???

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Kam

And we have some here who refer to them as “grown ups”. If it were not for the fact that they would wreck the country and cause our demise, I’d say let the conservatives have their way for 4 years. Cut what ever they want to cut to their hearts desire. At the end of the 4 years, when the sh*t’s finished splattering over the fan and the wall, maybe we could bury the rhetoric forever and actually think and act seriously about things.

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Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

I’m not sure about the demise, but wreck definitely. That is exactly what it did take in 1929 and the ensuing depression to enact safeguards and regulations protecting us from the “free market” predators and it took 70 years to forget what happened back then and roll back those regulations. Until we feel the pain that our grandparents felt, we are destined to believe that financial institutions can self regulate or act in the best interest of the country.

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Until we feel the pain that our grandparents felt, we are destined to believe that financial institutions can self regulate or act in the best interest of the country.

Speaking of which, are there any local banks left in North Georgia, that haven’t been closed or placed into a forced buy-out situation. I can’t think of one, right off hand.

http://www.ajc.com/business/two-more-small-georgia-844928.html?cxtype=rss_news

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SoCo

I’d recommend fruit jars.

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OK, let’s get rid of the word “cut”. How about “stop spending” or “bring down the deficit” or “we don’t have the money” or “pay for it with what?” or “take care of yourself” or “we can do without THAT” or “pay in the future is still debt” or “No money. No honey” or “my grandchildren are already broke”.

“Cut” is much shorter. But we can dump it and use one of the others. OK?

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SoCo

Wonder if you could find one of those old ones with the glass lid? I haven’t seen one of those in years.

If you do have to use metal lids though, you can dig them up and change them every couple years. I’d recommend doing that in the wee hours of the morning. Put you an old sock in there to soak up moisture; rotten money isn’t much good, so I hear.

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Dusty

I’m not sure about those two particular banks but some of the banks have been taken over and are operating under the same names and others were completely closed and taken over by out of state banks. I wasn’t speaking of chain banks like SunTrust, etc. They are still around. I prefer to deal with locally owned banks, rather than chain banks, but I can’t find one now, since all the ones anywhere near me went under.

A lot of the natives are pretty restless up here about some of things that went on in the banks. I’d like to see a few people swinging from the yardarm but I understand that’s not legal in modern society.

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Dusty

Cut is ok. I agree that we need to cut back on government spending. The method of doing it is where I see the problem. We have an economy that is slowly recovering from near total collapse. With an economy that’s based on spending, if the government cuts too much too fast, who’s going to pick up the slack in spending? Do you expect businesses and corporations to suddenly start hiring, spending and expanding like crazy? I don’t. There’s not enough people employed to pick up the slack either. Anything that’s done has to be done methodically and strategically.

HD

I have a few flip top ones with glass lids. Kinda like the old five and dime candy jars. I’ll keep the info about the sock in mind. Had not heard that one before.

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AmVet…Dan Fogelberg ! Thank you . And now for you…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlDNvUebe7Y

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HillBilly

SUNTRUST!!! Whooeeee…don’t even mention them to me. I drew out everything I had ever put there after the bank manager messed up an investment he haad set up there for me. . They fired him. But some “cold fish” there suggested that I should have known his recommendations were dead wrong. So I don’t need them for a bank anymore and they don’t have a cent of my money. (Yep, hanging is not good enough for some people!) I did not lose any money. Just good luck!!

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“A sleeve of Titleist Pro V1’s just showed up begging to be hit.”

For me, that would be a waste of a good sleeve of golf balls . . .

If I can’t buy ‘em for under a buck a ball, I don’t buy ‘em.

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The hyperbole is killing me, Dud-man

What you may see as hyperbole is another man’s opinion. Keep that in mind as you want people to respect yours.

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Whats not to love?

Rep. Christie Koem (R) of South Dakota wanted to ban the Environmental Protection Agency from modifying air quality standards on farm dust.

“Farmers have enough uncertainty,” said Ms. Koem, a rancher whose spirited campaign and unconventional style won her a place in the House Republican leadership as a liaison to the freshmen class. Freshman Rep. Rick Crawford (R) of Arkansas backed her up.

“EPA must come to realize that our food is grown in the dirt and in the process of making it, we’re going to stir up a little dust,” he said.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0219/House-Speaker-John-Boehner-unleashes-new-GOP-freshmen
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Big difference between the Egyptian protests and the WI protests. 40 million Egyptians live on .25 cents a day.

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Maybe you could have a bake sale! No, wait! Maybe you kids can put on a show in the local barn like Andy Hardy!

That’s just soooooo wrong!!

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How long does it take before the squirrels get tired of flipping?

Usually a few weeks, but every year there are young ones that need to learn the lesson, so the fun is endless. However, the feeder is not bear proof as my folks found out about their first one.

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Yeah, ’cause we’ve all seen what 60 years of liberal policies have gotten us, haven’t we?

Sure. All that liberal policy did was expand our economy out of WWII to heights that no other country has been able to duplicate. In all seriousness, what you consider liberal policy has been more of a combination of both. You could probably get credit for 30 years, but the last 30 has been a mix of liberal-conservative policy.

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Does it not bother anyone that a sitting president of the US would help foment political disruption in one of the State’s (Wisconsin) of the American Union by supplying operatives out of the Whitehouse and the DNC to further his unionists/socialist beliefs? And he only does this because the unions have given him 10’s of millions of their members hard-earned dollars for his campaigns. I am now convinced that Obama is a hard-core socialist and proto-communist with fascist leanings. He certainly is willing to enact fascists tactics to further his cause.

The thing that bothers me most is, for the life of me I can not understand the blindness that seems to be indemnic of the Obama zombies. He displays every quality of fascist/progressive dictator but yet his liberal followers choose to ignore this and continue to march on towards the inevetible and perhaps pre-ordained end of this counry. It is little wonder that Hitler and so many other ruthless dictators were so successful. It seems that an ever increasing number of members of the “public” worldwide want to be led around by a ring in their nose and that ring is made up of promises that their governments will take care of them no matter the cost to their own freedoms. What a bunch of idiots. The time of reckoning is about be upon us and I don’t say that with any religious inference. And oh will there be squealing when the people suddenly realize that their progressive government “saviours” have lied and things are not going to be OK. Just keep an eye on world food and energy prices in the next 10-12 months and you will see where we are about to be; hungry and scared with no saviour but the increased servitude to China through more and more borrowing to cover the interest on our debt. And Obama and crew are all about that.

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U.S. drops criminal probe of former Countrywide chief Angelo Mozilo

Mozilo’s actions in the mortgage meltdown — which led to $67.5-million settlement against him — did not amount to criminal wrongdoing, federal prosecutors have determined.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mozilo-20110219,0,3665171.story?page=1

Went for the low-hangin’ fruit, eh? Mozilo remains out of reach…all plump and juicy.

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Dave R @ 5:04 Errr… that was …flippant!! (she said as she smiled)

Now I am off to bake biscuits. That’s so the family won’t notice that I am feeding them formerly frozen TV dinners. I win points every time with biscuits.

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Back to the Jehovah’s Witnesses string from earlier, when they come to my house and start their pitch, I stop them suddenly and ask, “Oh, do YOU worship Satan, TOO?”

Some are shocked, some laugh, but all are ushered along on their merry way, with nary a need to use teacup poodles.

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Does this comment strike anyone else as racist?

‘Black Thanksgiving’ commences in L.A. this weekend

But they come out of the woodwork this time of year, because NBA players are royalty in Black America, and everyone wants to be near them. The old saying is that ballers want to be rappers, and rappers want to be ballers. That’s really, really true.

[snip]

Warts and all, it celebrates the extended community –the incredible athletic…

Warts and all?

Out of the woodwork?

Ballers and rappers are royalty in the black community?

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Dave R.

I had some Mormons visit.

We talked about romney and beck.

They said those two are not real mormons.

I asked them how many wives they had.

They ran away.

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SoCo,

You might want to go look at the makeup of Georgia’s government during that 1999-2003 timeframe.

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RW

I know GA was (D) top to bottom. Many other states were like that and have switched too, including my beloved Alabama. My statement earlier on policy was based on my perception of the national level. I should have specified as much.

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SoCo, Walker knows, like many of us did and many more are now realizing, that government unions (well, unions in general but that’s all he can do anything about) are a prescription for long-term fiscal disaster.

Ask yourself this: Why are so many states in a budget crisis right now? Unfunded benefits load. Why? Because Democrat-controlled governors gave away the long-term unsustainable store for short term election gains. It is a model that cannot succeed! You can’t see state after state going through this problem and NOT see the mistakes caving into unreasonable unions demands has gotten us into.

As to the Dud-man’s comments, they were over the top because they were false, not based on any perceptions.

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Dave R

Show where any thing I said was false

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Dave

I can point to the article I linked to earlier about the unemployment funding issue and can say Repubican tax-cutting pols have caused crisises too. I would love for you to show proof that states in fiscal trouble is due to “Unfunded benefits load” and not some other issues. As you ask others for citations, I’ll be waiting on that one.

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“Show where any thing I said was false”

You said “It just totally amazes me that the republicans support the organization of protests overseas, but try to bust the same type of organizations here in the US. ”

Really? People wishing for freedom in protesting a military dictatorship on their own volition and getting our support is somehow related to teachers living a lifestyle that maybe 5% of those protesters live? The Egyptian government bringing in troops to control the crowds is the same as allowing the Wisconsin demonstrators to demonstrate?

Not even close, Dud-man.

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As I said earlier you are entitled to you opinion, no matter how wrong it is. I see people fighting for their rights, I said nothing about standard of living.

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I wonder how many people are receiving disability benefits due to CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome)? My personal take? If it’s not Lupus, it’s always been in their head.

The apparent promise of cognitive behavior therapy and “graded exercise therapy” offers considerable hope to patients combating the complex condition characterized by profound tiredness, impaired concentration, diminished memory, sleep difficulties and muscle and joint pain, the study authors said.

The findings also support the somewhat controversial notion that incremental adjustments in physical behavior and/or mental attitude can ultimately have a positive impact on the disorder, the authors said.

I’m a big advocate for behavior modification.

Hope I didn’t offend any bloggers.

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“I see people fighting for their rights . . .”

And what “rights” are those, Dudley? The right to bankrupt the state in which they live? The right to maintain a benefits plan that 95% of private sector workers do not have? The right to force taxes to be increased and watch the people who pay them migrate to other tax-friendly states, thereby causing even MORE revenue issues?

When are you ever going to realize that a “right” is something that you can do on your own without the help or participation of others?

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Maybe if Wisconsin hadnt passed these cheesy tax cuts , the budget wouldnt be at impass.

All it is , is pure union busting.

http://blogs.forbes.com/leesheppard/2011/02/15/wisconsins-cheesy-tax-cuts/

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Dave

You don’t get it, will never get it so I am not wasting my time talking in circles. Let’s just agree to disagree.

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“Maybe if Wisconsin hadnt passed these cheesy tax cuts , the budget wouldnt be at impass. ”

Yeah, giving away a couple of hundred million, in a state with a $3.4 billion debt, is surely the reason for that budget problem.

Got math, larry? How many times does a lie have to be repeated with you before it becomes fact? Once?

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And as a spouse of a public employee, and i also have other family members who work in public service, public employees’ benefits are not what the media have them to be.

My spouse hasnt had a raise in five years, her health insurance has changed and gone up.

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Dave

All your map shows is that some states have more unfunded pension issues than others. Your statement was: “Why are so many states in a budget crisis right now? Unfunded benefits load. Why? Because Democrat-controlled governors gave away the long-term unsustainable store for short term election gains.” Your map does not prove your statement.

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Got math? Dave? The budget impass is over 137 millon dollars which were given to businesses. If Walker doesnt pass that tax cut , then there is no concessions and no bill introduced at the last minute.

This is union busting , pure and simple.

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Compared to Sammy Sosa, Michael Jackson was a piker in the turning white contest

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Oops, recertify.

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People are getting tired of the Republicans war on the middle class, they are also suffering buyers remorse by putting the repubs in charge of the house , where they havent introduced one jobs bill.

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“The right to freedom of assembly, Dave. I know you don’t think it’s the same thing, but you’re wrong so I don’t care what you think about that aspect of it. The fact is, that is what the fight is about for the protesters. It isn’t about MONEY, it’s about the right to assemble.”

Leg-humper, we’ve been through this ad-nauseum. There NEVER was a right to assemble as regards a union. NEVER. There weren’t even unions back in 1787! You can call it that over and over and over, but there isn’t a Founding Father, nor most of the all-but extremely liberal Constitutional scholars out there who would support your argument.

The right to assemble is the right to meet in more than a group of one, Adam. It was placed in the Constitution so that the government would not interfere in a group or groups wanting to get together in opposition to a government policy.There is NO other right to assemble.

And NO ONE is denying ANYONE the right to assemble in ANY Constitutional sense in Wisconsin, Adam.

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Approximately 20 hours till the daytona 500

Yipeeeeeeeeeeee

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Dave R: And NO ONE is denying ANYONE the right to assemble in ANY Constitutional sense in Wisconsin, Adam.

YOU

ARE

WRONG

End of discussion.

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Jimme Johnson will win his record breaking 6th championship in a row

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Oops. Jimmie

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“YOU

ARE

WRONG

End of discussion.”

Really? Show me the Feds stepping in because the right to assembly has been violated. Show me a local, state, circuit or Supreme Court being engaged in stopping this governor from doing what he is doing?

Saying someone is wrong, without facts to back it up, is emotion speaking, not reason. I have reason and FACTS on my side.

What have YOU got, leg-humper?

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I draw a pension. I get it because it was part of my contract with my former employer.

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We all just need to partake of the herb, watch comedy central, eat m&ms, and giggle till our sides hurt.

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“Seriously? You’re not one of those guys that believes only Fox News tells the truth are you?”

And leg-humper, I watch FOX, CNN and MSNBC for my television news input, and take ALL with a grain of salt. I also read a lot. You should try it sometime by starting with the collective works called “The Federalist Papers”. It provides insight as to the “whys” behind the “whats” that are in the Constitution. It’s a big book, and doesn’t have pictures, but you should try it anyway.

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The Feds have no reason to step in while a bill is being negotiated, much like how no one fought the health care bill on constitutional grounds in court until it was law (because you can’t).

OH! What did I just do? I gave you FACTS!

Saying someone is wrong, without facts to back it up, is emotion speaking, not reason.

I would say I’m surprised that you make this particular attack, considering you have done the exact same thing quite often. No facts, just calling me wrong and yourself right on many occasions. Sure, SOMETIMES you give data, and claim that these facts apply to your conclusion. But you’re usually wrong about that too, and I usually point it out and you just call me wrong. So yeah, good argument there.

You’re still wrong, and I “hashed out” all the facts and reasoning for you already as to why. You just refuse to believe it because you are a CON, and as a good CON you will never admit to anything.

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Exactly. I’ve had 7 knee surgeries, 2 torn rotator cuffs, and a bad back and I still skateboard on a regular basis, as well as a job in industrial construction, so I can’t see hands hurting as very debilitating.

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larry: The real facts as you have laid them out have already been given to Dave. He simply refuses to budge from his position because of BELIEF, not FACTS, as he tries to claim. He’s just not listening.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2sxujHcbI

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“Freedom of assembly, as guaranteed in the Canadian Constitution and the Constitution of the United States, is interpreted to mean both the freedom to assemble and the freedom to join an association. ”

Correct, larry! Good for you! That’s only PART of the story, however.

NO ONE is denying ANYONE the right to assemble or join. They are, however, setting reasonable rules that protect the individual who might not wish to join, and the taxpayers who have to pay for that organization.

And that is NOT un-Constitutional.

Nice try, but more like a foul ball rather than a full whiff.

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They are, however, setting reasonable rules that protect the individual who might not wish to join, and the taxpayers who have to pay for that organization.

Oh do tell what “reasonable” rules you’re talking about. Don’t leave any of the proposed rules out, now. That would be unbalanced.

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josef

Understand and agree with your point. I think the teachers have made their point and need to get back into the classroom as well. It does more harm than anything to deprive the kids any classroom time.

I’d love to sit and debate with y’all, but my child is far more important to me than any of y’alls opinions, whether I agree with them or not. C’ya later!!!!!

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Funded: Yes but the issue has been decided in the Supreme Court on more than one occasion that a union is protected by the First Amendment. Specifically, in both the freedom of speech and freedom of assembly parts of that amendment. So it’s already been interpreted to be in support of the existence of unions.

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Whooaaa…

And leg-humper

for a minute there, I thought AmVet had returned to discredit my standing as a “paragon”…to “fook” my details. But alas…”his pair” are gone or have been gone for some time now.

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So CO,

There is no way to conclude the reasons for a budget crisis from that map. Anyone can see that if they look at it. You will note that Forbes has chosen to focus very narrowly on the issue and even attempt to sway the viewer with their choice of presentation. Unfunded pension obligations is not an absolute statement. It is relative to current conditions, like unemployment rate or GDP.

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“Oh do tell what “reasonable” rules you’re talking about. Don’t leave any of the proposed rules out, now.”

Leg-humper, this is so easy!

How about that you can’t be forced to join a union if you don’t want to and still perform the work? Surely you don’t think that forcing someone to belong to a group is supported in the Constitution, do you? maybe we should write a law that everyone is required to join the Masonic Order before allowing them to run for office? Would THAT be Constitutional, leg-humper?

How about re-certifying the union every year? Are you saying that once created, those who are forced to join must endure the organization they cannot leave, even if said organization is not helping them? Does that meet ANY standard of logic for you? (Rhetorical question only – you’d have to have logic first).

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Dave R: I asked you not to leave any rules out. You totally left out the pension stuff, for instance. And you listed 2 rules.

Surely you don’t think that forcing someone to belong to a group is supported in the Constitution, do you?

No, actually the same cases that upheld that unions have the right to exist also upheld that people also have the right NOT to assemble. So yeah, this one is reasonable. If that were all there was to it, then you’d be on good solid ground for supporting the bill.

The other rule, I am not so sure about. Every year actually seems a bit unreasonable.

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josef: Definitely not asking for capitulation. Of course, if doing the moniker thing as a witty retort on the end of things is weakening my case, then it must often be weakening Dave’s cases as well…. well, at least the cases he is making that actually are reality based. You can’t really weaken a case that wasn’t on solid ground to begin with.

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ADAM

Yes. Dave’s use of sweeping monnikers weakens his case, too. Witticisms are another matter…but untless there’s some respect involved, they’re just nasty comments…

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Thanks for that definition. My own skateboarding/snowboarding boy uses it all the time and I wondered where it came from. Didn’t know it was from his sport…

BTW…what’s your take on Libya?

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Kammy:

I hate to break this to you but check out #10 ………………….

http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/18/jobs-outlook-decline-forbes-woman-leadership-careers_slide_11.html

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Scout

You’re here and Bruin’s not…go to slide # 48 and we’ll just leave it at that…

http://www.clubrunner.ca/Data/5710/4395/HTML/113501/BlackConfederatesJan11.pdf

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josef:

BTW…what’s your take on Libya?

No protests in Tripoli yet.

Just taking it all in….waiting for things to shake out.

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Has anyone else ever wondered whether Justin Bieber is really a dude?

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Did a quick check on the format of Mme Franklin’s blog…we’ll see…

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Crying Game…
Not really. I have wondered if he’s gay, though….

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Dave R: We are a nation of laws, not of men. (that means the mob mentality cannot rule us, Adam)

That requires a mutual respect for the law from everyone, or even most people. Traditional mob rule hasn’t happened in a while, but instead it can be said that mob rule is being replaced by more of a mob mentality, where the polarized sides make consistent and calculated efforts to change the laws to be what they want, in an effort to force everyone else into de facto agreement.

This thing you keep saying about you using facts and me not using facts is simply not true. I have used facts, and you have often used them poorly (for example, to make an unrelated point or a conclusion that cannot reasonably be drawn from said facts). Not that I’ll say I have never done the same but you do it so OFTEN that I have to wonder what’s going on in that brain of yours. You also do plenty of emotional argument and belief yourself. It’s not WRONG to do that. However, it is incorrect to assume that when I disagree with you it is ONLY based on belief or emotion. Sure, I get passionate, but when I feel I HAVE to, I do back up my statements with facts.

You have a really funny way of talking about facts though. You call CNN a biased source, basically, but only in the sense that it supports an argument that is counter to yours. You still, as you say, watch CNN to get part of your news and you don’t immediately believe it. But your indication at first was that because I got my facts from CNN, and the argument was counter to yours, then it must be wrong. And that’s a BIG problem in a serious debate. You also seem to believe only your facts matter, and that they always prove the point you’re trying to make. You are wrong 100% on the former, and usually wrong on the latter.

I’m not sure why, but you often draw conclusions from things that don’t support your conclusion. I suppose it’s possible that all you do is go later to find some data that appears to back you up after a cursory examination, and then post it without really making sure it backs you up first.

I don’t have a problem with a well made argument borne of facts and beliefs at all, but you really are applying a double standard here to prop yourself up.

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Dave R:

As you have realized, josef is one of a handful on here that you can have a meaningful debate with.

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Scout

Cool is universal.

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Nanh, It’s her new hair color! She’s joined the Blue Haired Biddies… ISH

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josef:

I’m reading a book on Sgt. York now. Fascinating.

I used to wave to him sitting on his porch when I was a kid. I always wondered why he didn’t look like Gary Cooper ……………..

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Recently I attended a funeral where some kid was sporting “The Beiber Do”….struttin’ ’round while all the young tweeners swooned. Every time he passed by, I turned to a friend’s daughter with “SWOOP…there he is!”

That haircut….yeesh!!!!

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josef:

Headline re: Wisconsin debacle …………

“‘You’ve got brother vs. brother’”

Sound familiar ?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-gu1KETjVY

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Dusty

We do see the occasional bear here but they are smart creatures; they steer clear of humans as much as possible. I don’t think there’d be any such thing as a “bear flipper”. They can wreak havoc, when they are so inclined and the best thing to do is get out of their way.

Looks like things have calmed back down here. Scanning back it looks like things got testy while I was taking my Saturday night bath.

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Scanning back it looks like things got testy while I was taking my Saturday night bath.

Show-off! Everybody knows hillbillies and rednecks take monthly baths.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyi3Tv4cjcs

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And REAL Rednecks and Hillbillies know they’re proper nouns and spelled with an upper case…

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HillBilly,

A Saturday night without a bath is like a …..well…nevermind. Hope you used a lotta octagon soap and sweet lavender lotion. How sweet it is!

Josef has poured oil on the waters here and everybody is kind and gentle again. Won’t last. But what’s a blog for, kinda like the Hatfields & the McCoys. Lotsa fun shooting at each other. .

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I’m not much for lavender lotion; used many a bar of octagon soap, though.

In my opinion, the Hatfields and McCoys get a bit of a bad wrap. They had their problems to be sure but those problems were exacerbated and exploited by Eastern timber barons, with an assist from local lawyer Perry Cline.

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Funerals! Discretion prohibits telling just whose it was, but in my collection of great tales from the South is one told by one of the participants. She says there they were at the funeral and one of the relatives “come back from Detroit” went to wailing, “oh, Mama, you’re gone and we won’t see you again in this life.” She says before she could stop herself (or any of her folks!) she jumped up and yelled at her sister, “not that you ever saw her here, Miss ‘You Take Care of Her,” and you might want to take a good look at her in the coffin, ’cause you won’t be seeing her in the afterlife either where you’re goin’” Broke down into a fracas “right there in the church”

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but Josef,

Why would you say “I hope you are not happy at the end”? Of course I’ve noticed the history of precivilization , mankind’s entrance, the jellyfish,etc. etc. and Jewish history and Mr. Sokoloff and Rachel and Goliah and of course Ismael. It is like a long college lecture so one can be awakened to the misthink of this world. THAT is not a new theme.

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Kamchak

I’ve heard Jerry Clower’s but I can’t remember if I heard Lewis’ or not.

josef

Again, without getting into details, our local undertaker says he hates to hear that any member of a certain family has died. He says, he knows it’ll end in a fight and he knows they’ll tear up his funeral home.

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A cautionary tale about the last piece of chicken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8wLI4gHvts

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Hillbilly
I may have made mention that Daddy was a deputy sheriff. I won’t ever forget when he called Mama and asked her if it would be allright if he had next weekend with us since, “the —-’s have a funeral this weekend, so I’m on call,..!”

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No more caskets. Just a little box of ashes.

Not for me. I want one of them old time funerals that lasts for hours, lots of music, 2 or 3 preachers and the walk by at the end, then take me out and plant me in the churchyard, with a real tombstone. No perpetual care stuff for me; I want somebody out there pulling weeds and cutting grass. I want to be as a big a burden in death, as I was in life.

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josef

I did see the Appalachians show and thought it was pretty good. We got rich, poor, smart, stupid, good, lazy no-count, and all the rest, like any other place. Just show the truth is all I ask but as you say, that doesn’t usually fit the narrative they’re trying to portray.

One thing I notice about some of those shows though, all the people they usually talk to, are people who moved here from somewhere else. Of course, most natives aren’t going to get on camera and “tote tales” but still, it’s always interesting that documentary makers always seem to find people to fit whatever narrative they’re telling. And that applies to a lot of subjects besides the Appalachians.

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In the Baptist churches I grew up in, we did our eating before the funeral. I guess everybody would’ve been famished if you’d waited ’til the funeral was over. It is fading out but used to be, when somebody died, everybody around would immediately start cooking and taking food to the funeral home (or home if that’s where the body was). There was always a room full of food with tables in the back of the funeral home and people just passed in and out as they wished.

Methodist funerals I’ve been to, they tended to do their eating afterwards. Other than that they were similar, except the service was a lot shorter and more low key.

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Hillbilly,

Your funeral plans sound like a musical I’d like to see. One of the Irish tenors could play your part.

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I must say that some funeral customs are absurd. In some religions, viewing the corpse is regarded as an obligatory part. Why? For proof that the guy really did die? Then there those viewers who feel obligated to say, “He looks so natural!” What’s so natural about a dead body? The funeral service I recall most vididly was for my father-in-law a couple of decades ago. I’ll skip over the part about needing to pay the synagogue dues as a condition of the rabbi, a very prominent Atlanta, performing the service. One of the viewers even came up to me to complain that the body was missing the customary eyeglasses! Said the viewer, “He just doesn’t look natural without them.”

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“Still kinda resent the subtitles, though”

Why? There are a lot of accents on this continent and not everyone is “tuned in” to them. And then there are the English as a second language speakers…it’s even harder for them to disentangle our varied accents. Would you prefer they not subtitle them and let the speakers be misunderstood?

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Taking food to a funeral has GOT to be a Southern tradition. We didn’t do it in California. A mutual friend’s Mom died coupl’a years ago. Funeral was in Sylacauga, AL. Everybody made a coupl’a dishes and headed out. Took the food to a house with a 14 ft family dining table.

A bunch of women all bickering over how the table should be arranged. I conceded to a little ol’ lady who was proud of her local standing in the community. Meats here, vegetables there….blah blah blah. Who cares?

There were murmurings of a family squabble brewing. I kept wondering why we were lingering ’cause it was a long trip back. Found out the friends wanted to hang around for the brawl. I got my hands on the car keys and told ‘em to get their asses in the car or I’d leave without ‘em.

Women!!!!!

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HillBilly,

OHH I don’t think I am familiar with “I’ll fly away”. Is it a hymn?

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Paulo

Thanks. It’s the thought that counts but that’s a tad too mid-tempo for what I have in mind.

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Don’t ever get into a quarrel with the old women about what goes where at the table. You’re taking your life in your own hands. And Lord help you if you’re visiting a church and accidently sit in one of the old women’s “place”. That’s why a visiting Baptist always sits in the back, you know you aren’t taking a regular’s seat. (IW&SH)

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G’night folks. Heading out early tomorrow. .

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Hillbilly:

My Dad always taught me never to argue with elders. They’ve earned the privilege of being right even when they’re wrong.

I never sit in the same spot at church. When it’s my time to read, I have to sit up front with the preacher. He steps down into the aisle to deliver his sermon and all I can concentrate on his his three bald spots on the back of his head. I’ve told him to wear a hat or get some spray paint ’cause they (the bald spots) detract from his sermon.

It’s a weird pattern. Reminds me of the nuclear symbol.

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Redneck’s version was closer but it’s not fast enough either. That song, and many others, were written by the late Albert E Brumley.

josef

Reading back through some mid 1800’s diaries, I think a next day funeral was more customary in our area, than what we have now. Basically, as soon as they could get a casket built and a hole dug, and the body ready (which usually took a day), they put them away. And often it was leave the funeral and head right back to work. I guess the die one day, lay out a day, and then buried the next, came about later but I don’t know exactly when.

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Thanks, Bruther RedNeck. I couldn’t quite pick up the tune in that one but I’ll try another time. If I can get the tune in my head I can pick it out on the piano. Won’t be the same but……

G’nite…

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do the future guilt trip thing rather than make a spectacle here and now.

You got a point there. I’ve never seen anybody make a scene but you can always see the daggers. And you’ll forever after be known as, “the one who took Mrs. Smith’s seat” or at least ’til they finally accept you, which could be a long time. And there’s a lot more leverage in dragging the future guilt trip thing out forever than a one time scene.

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okay, night time…enjoyed…take care and sleep well…

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Del:

I was in 2nd Division M.P.’s at Lejeune for about 6 months during the spring to fall, 1968.

You didn’t walk around the base by yourself at night. It was already that bad.

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“I don’t have a problem with a well made argument borne of facts and beliefs at all, but you really are applying a double standard here to prop yourself up.”

At some point you may get to understanding the same language I do, that being English, but until then you’ll continue to miss the point being made with facts as they are, not what you wish them to be.

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6 1/2 hours till the Daytona 500

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Oh, I’m sorry I missed the funeral conversation last night. When my mom died last summer, there were women at her house putting up tables and bringing in food before me and my sisters could turn around. I was like “who ARE these people?” I don’t even know how they got the news so quickly. I think my dad is still eating some of those casseroles.

A sad realization is that you do have to have someone not close to the family stay at the house during the funeral — apparently thieves read obituaries — who knew? I guess I’m not of the criminal mind.

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If I were Gov. Walker, I’d pull a Reagan and fire them all.

I’ll bet there are a bunch of trained educators out there waiting for any kind of employment right now.

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Communists join the wi protest.

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Well, apparently ONE Democrat “profile in courage” is willing to come back into town this morning if the Governor puts collective bargaining back into the bill. However, the Senate President isn’t willing to compromise just yet.

How about this: You can have collective bargaining and ONLY collective bargaining for all aspects of your pay and benefits back, but you still have to re-certify each year and you can’t be forced to join a union of you don’t want to. And if they don’t come back, I think the Governor should withhold payment to these clowns until they do come back into town.

Think any of the “profiles in courage” will agree to that?

I doubt it.

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