On tonight’s Travelin’ Music, Justin Bieber … NOT!

When I heard that some unknown jazz newcomer had beaten out the hyperpopular Justin Bieber as Best New Artist at the Grammys last weekend, I was intrigued.

When I learned that the artist in question, Esperanza Spalding, played a stand-up bass — my favorite jazz instrument — and also sang — I love female vocalists — well, it wasn’t hard to pick this week’s kickoff tune for Travelin’ Music.

Here is Miss Spalding performing in a recent tribute to Stevie Wonder at the White House. (I don’t believe I’ve ever featured Stevie, which is a terrible injustice to the man that I’ll have to correct soon.)

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josef nix

February 19th, 2011
7:08 pm

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Thanks for that definition. My own skateboarding/snowboarding boy uses it all the time and I wondered where it came from. Didn’t know it was from his sport…

BTW…what’s your take on Libya?

Dave R.

February 19th, 2011
7:10 pm

“You totally left out the pension stuff, for instance.”

Didn’t think I needed to repeat myself for the 20th time, Adam.

And ALL my arguments are based on FACTS, Adam. Those that aren’t I clearly identify as being my opinion.

Yours? Not so much.

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February 19th, 2011
7:11 pm

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February 19th, 2011
7:12 pm

Huh!!?!!

One of the open secrets of Shirley Franklin’s eight-year tenure as mayor of Atlanta was her night-owl addiction to local political blogs.

Sometimes under the sobriquet of “Millie Lou,” sometimes under her own name, Franklin would answer critics in detailed fashion — or weigh in with late-night, unfiltered observations on the issue of the day.

As mayor of Atlanta, I’d like to think she had more important things to do.

Weird.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
7:13 pm

Scout

You’re here and Bruin’s not…go to slide # 48 and we’ll just leave it at that…

http://www.clubrunner.ca/Data/5710/4395/HTML/113501/BlackConfederatesJan11.pdf

Kamchak

February 19th, 2011
7:16 pm

I hate to break this to you but check out #10 …

No sh_t, Sherlock.

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February 19th, 2011
7:17 pm

josef:

BTW…what’s your take on Libya?

No protests in Tripoli yet.

Just taking it all in….waiting for things to shake out.

Dave R.

February 19th, 2011
7:18 pm

I think I’d never have to use monikers if the people I disagreed with so much on this blog would do so based on facts, rather than opinion they believe are facts, and keep their emotional responses out of their arguments.

We are a nation of laws, not of men. (that means the mob mentality cannot rule us, Adam)

The reason josef and I have so many good discussions on this blog is that he is willing to listen to a well-made argument born of facts and beliefs, as am I. But while you are entitled to your own beliefs, you are not entitled to your own facts when they don’t equate with reality. josef and I both know where each of those goalposts are.

Crying Game

February 19th, 2011
7:18 pm

Has anyone else ever wondered whether Justin Bieber is really a dude?

Dave R.

February 19th, 2011
7:20 pm

And now it’s off to find some evening sustenance.

Maybe later.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
7:21 pm

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Did a quick check on the format of Mme Franklin’s blog…we’ll see…

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
7:27 pm

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Same here. Benghazi has always been the more liberal (ISH) center in Libya. It looks like the Sultan in Bahrain has backed down…the crowds are back in the Pearl Roundabout…

I’d sure like to be a fly on the wall at 1600 about now!

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
7:29 pm

Crying Game…
Not really. I have wondered if he’s gay, though….

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 19th, 2011
7:29 pm

Kammy:

Maybe you’ll get to retire before it gets any worse.

Adam

February 19th, 2011
7:31 pm

Dave R: We are a nation of laws, not of men. (that means the mob mentality cannot rule us, Adam)

That requires a mutual respect for the law from everyone, or even most people. Traditional mob rule hasn’t happened in a while, but instead it can be said that mob rule is being replaced by more of a mob mentality, where the polarized sides make consistent and calculated efforts to change the laws to be what they want, in an effort to force everyone else into de facto agreement.

This thing you keep saying about you using facts and me not using facts is simply not true. I have used facts, and you have often used them poorly (for example, to make an unrelated point or a conclusion that cannot reasonably be drawn from said facts). Not that I’ll say I have never done the same but you do it so OFTEN that I have to wonder what’s going on in that brain of yours. You also do plenty of emotional argument and belief yourself. It’s not WRONG to do that. However, it is incorrect to assume that when I disagree with you it is ONLY based on belief or emotion. Sure, I get passionate, but when I feel I HAVE to, I do back up my statements with facts.

You have a really funny way of talking about facts though. You call CNN a biased source, basically, but only in the sense that it supports an argument that is counter to yours. You still, as you say, watch CNN to get part of your news and you don’t immediately believe it. But your indication at first was that because I got my facts from CNN, and the argument was counter to yours, then it must be wrong. And that’s a BIG problem in a serious debate. You also seem to believe only your facts matter, and that they always prove the point you’re trying to make. You are wrong 100% on the former, and usually wrong on the latter.

I’m not sure why, but you often draw conclusions from things that don’t support your conclusion. I suppose it’s possible that all you do is go later to find some data that appears to back you up after a cursory examination, and then post it without really making sure it backs you up first.

I don’t have a problem with a well made argument borne of facts and beliefs at all, but you really are applying a double standard here to prop yourself up.

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 19th, 2011
7:31 pm

josef:

Very interesting. The Herman Cain’s of their day ……………….. :o

Once a saw a program about Russian biker gangs. Once group used the Confederate flag as their emblem. The reporter ask them if they knew what it meant and they said, “no, but it looks cool” !!!

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 19th, 2011
7:33 pm

Dave R:

As you have realized, josef is one of a handful on here that you can have a meaningful debate with.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
7:33 pm

Scout

Methinks the South Sudanese DO know what it means, though…! Oh, yes, and they won! :-)

Dudley (United we stand, Divided we beg)

February 19th, 2011
7:33 pm

Scout

Cool is universal.

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February 19th, 2011
7:34 pm

Strange name for a blog “Blogging While Blue”.

Is she depressed?

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
7:37 pm

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Nanh, It’s her new hair color! She’s joined the Blue Haired Biddies… ISH

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 19th, 2011
7:37 pm

Dudley:

You got that right !

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 19th, 2011
7:38 pm

josef:

I’m reading a book on Sgt. York now. Fascinating.

I used to wave to him sitting on his porch when I was a kid. I always wondered why he didn’t look like Gary Cooper …………….. :o

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 19th, 2011
7:41 pm

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February 19th, 2011
7:43 pm

Recently I attended a funeral where some kid was sporting “The Beiber Do”….struttin’ ’round while all the young tweeners swooned. Every time he passed by, I turned to a friend’s daughter with “SWOOP…there he is!”

That haircut….yeesh!!!!

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February 19th, 2011
7:44 pm

Okay….so I misbehave at funerals too.

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 19th, 2011
7:45 pm

josef:

Headline re: Wisconsin debacle …………

“‘You’ve got brother vs. brother’”

Sound familiar ?

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
7:45 pm

Josef,

While you are mediating here, I am in the middle of Ishmael. Thanks a lot! I’m not getting a whole lot out of it to say the least. Maybe by the end I’ll be happy but right now……sorta hippyish, new life, unhappiness, animal know how, world culture, some real facts and the world has gone to pot. That’s just the first “informative” half.

English literature of old has this guy looking like “R U Smarter than a Fifth Grader” loony tunes. Guess I’m not “with it”! Maybe I’ll finish tonight and make the great discovery!!

Kamchak

February 19th, 2011
7:51 pm

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
7:53 pm

DUSTY

I hope by the end, you’re not happy! Look deeper and you’ll see it is a criticism of what you see on surface. Bear in mind, too, that there’s a lot of “Jewish” to it…i.e. the Mesopotamian Cradle of Western Civilization…

And really there IS no discovery…only more questions…

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
7:54 pm

Dusty

We do see the occasional bear here but they are smart creatures; they steer clear of humans as much as possible. I don’t think there’d be any such thing as a “bear flipper”. They can wreak havoc, when they are so inclined and the best thing to do is get out of their way.

Looks like things have calmed back down here. Scanning back it looks like things got testy while I was taking my Saturday night bath. :lol:

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
8:00 pm

“Scanning back it looks like things got testy while I was taking my Saturday night bath.”

They generally do when you’re not around….you being our Southern gentleman of culture and breeding with you inestimable manners and decorum… and speaking of bears… :-)

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 19th, 2011
8:01 pm

Scanning back it looks like things got testy while I was taking my Saturday night bath.

Show-off! Everybody knows hillbillies and rednecks take monthly baths.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
8:05 pm

Show-off! Everybody knows hillbillies and rednecks take monthly baths.

And how would you know this?

Kamchak

February 19th, 2011
8:06 pm

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
8:07 pm

Okay….so I misbehave at funerals too.

Never misbehave at a funeral and never take the last piece of chicken off the plate.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
8:09 pm

And REAL Rednecks and Hillbillies know they’re proper nouns and spelled with an upper case…

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February 19th, 2011
8:09 pm

Somebody over at Huffington has argued that getting our troops out of Afghanistan would solve Wisconsin’s budget problems.

How’s the governor supposed to manage that? That’s on Obama.

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
8:10 pm

HillBilly,

A Saturday night without a bath is like a …..well…nevermind. Hope you used a lotta octagon soap and sweet lavender lotion. How sweet it is!

Josef has poured oil on the waters here and everybody is kind and gentle again. Won’t last. But what’s a blog for, kinda like the Hatfields & the McCoys. Lotsa fun shooting at each other. .

@@

February 19th, 2011
8:12 pm

Hillbilly:

It was actually a wake minus the liquor. Held at a nature preserve. Very nice send off for a super nice guy who never wore anything but a T-shirt and jeans. A hillbilly type, if you will.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
8:15 pm

I’m not much for lavender lotion; used many a bar of octagon soap, though.

In my opinion, the Hatfields and McCoys get a bit of a bad wrap. They had their problems to be sure but those problems were exacerbated and exploited by Eastern timber barons, with an assist from local lawyer Perry Cline.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
8:17 pm

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Well, without going into details, I’ve been to a couple of funerals where there very easily could have been an extra corpse or two, before the thing was over.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
8:22 pm

Funerals! Discretion prohibits telling just whose it was, but in my collection of great tales from the South is one told by one of the participants. She says there they were at the funeral and one of the relatives “come back from Detroit” went to wailing, “oh, Mama, you’re gone and we won’t see you again in this life.” She says before she could stop herself (or any of her folks!) she jumped up and yelled at her sister, “not that you ever saw her here, Miss ‘You Take Care of Her,” and you might want to take a good look at her in the coffin, ’cause you won’t be seeing her in the afterlife either where you’re goin’” Broke down into a fracas “right there in the church” :-)

Kamchak

February 19th, 2011
8:24 pm

Hillbilly Deluxe

Did you ever hear Lewis Grizzard’s bit on “sitting up with the dead?”

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
8:25 pm

but Josef,

Why would you say “I hope you are not happy at the end”? Of course I’ve noticed the history of precivilization , mankind’s entrance, the jellyfish,etc. etc. and Jewish history and Mr. Sokoloff and Rachel and Goliah and of course Ismael. It is like a long college lecture so one can be awakened to the misthink of this world. THAT is not a new theme.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
8:25 pm

Hillbilly
Did you catch the PBS documentary on the Appalachians? It did a pretty good job of presenting it for what it was. I’ve always been pi33ed at the way they are presented as some kind of cretins out of a bad Hollywood film…they were highly educated, upper middle class folks…it was good to see the stereotype dislodged…

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
8:27 pm

Kamchak

I’ve heard Jerry Clower’s but I can’t remember if I heard Lewis’ or not.

josef

Again, without getting into details, our local undertaker says he hates to hear that any member of a certain family has died. He says, he knows it’ll end in a fight and he knows they’ll tear up his funeral home.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
8:28 pm

DUSTY

I agree with you on the it’s not new, but what Ishmael has to say is, well, intriguing and especially in a day and age where we tend to have lost contact with that Ur-genesis sweep…

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
8:29 pm

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A cautionary tale about the last piece of chicken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8wLI4gHvts

Del

February 19th, 2011
8:31 pm

Met with a gentleman this morning on a community project. We talked for awhile and it turned out he was a World War II veteran. Infantry in the Pacific Theater, Philippines campaign. He read the Matterhorn by Karl Marlantis, a good read for those who want to understand the later years of the Vietnam war 1969-to its end,where racial tension and the peace movement in the United States began impacting morale. He related to those who fought in Vietnam and he was just a pleasure to talk with.Truly, the great generation.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
8:33 pm

Hillbilly
I may have made mention that Daddy was a deputy sheriff. I won’t ever forget when he called Mama and asked her if it would be allright if he had next weekend with us since, “the —-’s have a funeral this weekend, so I’m on call,..!” :-)

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
8:34 pm

As to funerals, most of the ones I attend are at Lutheran Churches. And Lutherans love to eat! You can’t have a funeral or a memorial service without a reception afterwards. So you balance a plate of cookies cake, candy and a paper cup of ice tea, while holding a “program” and hanging on to your pocketbook and chatting solemnly with the bereaved in a suitable manner. The flowers are beautiful but not plentiful. Everybody gives to a “memorial”. No more caskets. Just a little box of ashes. It just isn’t quite the same as the old ways.. But I admit, sometimes I still cry.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
8:40 pm

No more caskets. Just a little box of ashes.

Not for me. I want one of them old time funerals that lasts for hours, lots of music, 2 or 3 preachers and the walk by at the end, then take me out and plant me in the churchyard, with a real tombstone. No perpetual care stuff for me; I want somebody out there pulling weeds and cutting grass. I want to be as a big a burden in death, as I was in life. :lol:

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
8:40 pm

Funerals and eats. Growing up, Mama and Granny always made “sausage pies,” (Hillbilly for “quiche” for the uninitiated) There’s no way to make just one. I got to wanting some once and went ahead and made the four the recipe demanded. Lil Princess’ Mama. a West Virginian, happened in and was all cheerful until she went into the kitchen, came back out all mournful, “I’m sorry. Who died?”

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
8:44 pm

josef

I did see the Appalachians show and thought it was pretty good. We got rich, poor, smart, stupid, good, lazy no-count, and all the rest, like any other place. Just show the truth is all I ask but as you say, that doesn’t usually fit the narrative they’re trying to portray.

One thing I notice about some of those shows though, all the people they usually talk to, are people who moved here from somewhere else. Of course, most natives aren’t going to get on camera and “tote tales” but still, it’s always interesting that documentary makers always seem to find people to fit whatever narrative they’re telling. And that applies to a lot of subjects besides the Appalachians.

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
8:44 pm

Josef,

As to Ishmael, guess I don’t feel like the UrGenesis sweep is forgotten. We just had a long Bible study at church on Genesis. Studied words, maps, meanings, history, people and it was very interesting. Our pastor loves history and got a degree in that before he got his doctorate in devinity. Can make two hours fly past. Gotta be good to do that.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
8:49 pm

In the Baptist churches I grew up in, we did our eating before the funeral. I guess everybody would’ve been famished if you’d waited ’til the funeral was over. It is fading out but used to be, when somebody died, everybody around would immediately start cooking and taking food to the funeral home (or home if that’s where the body was). There was always a room full of food with tables in the back of the funeral home and people just passed in and out as they wished.

Methodist funerals I’ve been to, they tended to do their eating afterwards. Other than that they were similar, except the service was a lot shorter and more low key.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
8:56 pm

DUSTY

I was thinking more in terms of the secular culture.

Hillbilly,
I agree. I generally go into one of these “specials” with my antennae up. Ever so often, though, one will come along that I have to admit does a pretty good job of it. The History Channel one on Camp Douglass (”Eighty Acres of Hell”) was one of those. “Sherman in Georgia” was NOT! And, like you, I like it when they let “us,” whoever that “us” may be, do the telling. Even when it’s not the most, uh, flattering! Some of those coming out of the swamps of Louisiana being a good example! I’d rather no say it, but, yeah, thass us! Still kinda resent the subtitles, though! :-)

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
8:58 pm

Hillbilly,

Your funeral plans sound like a musical I’d like to see. One of the Irish tenors could play your part.

RW-(the original)

February 19th, 2011
9:01 pm

I generally go into one of these “specials” with my antennae up.

The ones that do that to me are usually on premium cable.

Curious Observer

February 19th, 2011
9:07 pm

I must say that some funeral customs are absurd. In some religions, viewing the corpse is regarded as an obligatory part. Why? For proof that the guy really did die? Then there those viewers who feel obligated to say, “He looks so natural!” What’s so natural about a dead body? The funeral service I recall most vididly was for my father-in-law a couple of decades ago. I’ll skip over the part about needing to pay the synagogue dues as a condition of the rabbi, a very prominent Atlanta, performing the service. One of the viewers even came up to me to complain that the body was missing the customary eyeglasses! Said the viewer, “He just doesn’t look natural without them.”

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
9:08 pm

Dusty

One song I want played is “I’ll Fly Away” but I may have to get up and play it myself. :lol: Never heard anybody do it the way I want it done. To my mind, that song should be played wide open. Nothing subdued about it.

Doggone/GA

February 19th, 2011
9:12 pm

“Still kinda resent the subtitles, though”

Why? There are a lot of accents on this continent and not everyone is “tuned in” to them. And then there are the English as a second language speakers…it’s even harder for them to disentangle our varied accents. Would you prefer they not subtitle them and let the speakers be misunderstood?

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
9:18 pm

Curious Observer,

I think that most funeral plans are made by the family. Whatever they want. It is a goodbye service of course. So I don’t mind whatever the family desires. One funeral service I attended was held at a large beautiful and classical auditorium of a funeral home. Everything was serious and solemn, even the music. UNTIL, at the conclusion, loud New Orleans jazz filled the worship center. We could have danced right out the white columned room.. But it was what the dying man had requested and that is what we got. Fine with me. Maybe he died happier thinking about music he loved.

@@

February 19th, 2011
9:20 pm

Taking food to a funeral has GOT to be a Southern tradition. We didn’t do it in California. A mutual friend’s Mom died coupl’a years ago. Funeral was in Sylacauga, AL. Everybody made a coupl’a dishes and headed out. Took the food to a house with a 14 ft family dining table.

A bunch of women all bickering over how the table should be arranged. I conceded to a little ol’ lady who was proud of her local standing in the community. Meats here, vegetables there….blah blah blah. Who cares?

There were murmurings of a family squabble brewing. I kept wondering why we were lingering ’cause it was a long trip back. Found out the friends wanted to hang around for the brawl. I got my hands on the car keys and told ‘em to get their asses in the car or I’d leave without ‘em.

Women!!!!!

Paulo977

February 19th, 2011
9:20 pm

Hillbilly ..this may not fit the but, hey, it’s the thought that counts!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BPoMIQHwpo

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
9:20 pm

HillBilly,

OHH I don’t think I am familiar with “I’ll fly away”. Is it a hymn?

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
9:21 pm

“Still kinda resent the subtitles, though”

I resent them because you only see them used for certain groups and areas. The Appalachians, the Bayous, the Inner City, the Coastal Islands but you’ll never see them used for the Northeast or Midwest or some other areas. Some of the people who never get sub-titled are hard to understand, for me.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
9:24 pm

Paulo

Thanks. It’s the thought that counts but that’s a tad too mid-tempo for what I have in mind. ;-)

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Don’t ever get into a quarrel with the old women about what goes where at the table. You’re taking your life in your own hands. And Lord help you if you’re visiting a church and accidently sit in one of the old women’s “place”. That’s why a visiting Baptist always sits in the back, you know you aren’t taking a regular’s seat. (IW&SH)

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
9:35 pm

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
9:36 pm

G’night folks. Heading out early tomorrow. .

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 19th, 2011
9:36 pm

Well, we can’t have a good Southren woman like Sister Dusty running around ignorant of “I’ll Fly Away.” I mean, it’s like a kid that don’t know no Christmas songs. So here, Sister Dusty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgEcPPsfdaE

Get to bed everybody. You got to get up to go to church.

@@

February 19th, 2011
9:37 pm

Hillbilly:

My Dad always taught me never to argue with elders. They’ve earned the privilege of being right even when they’re wrong.

I never sit in the same spot at church. When it’s my time to read, I have to sit up front with the preacher. He steps down into the aisle to deliver his sermon and all I can concentrate on his his three bald spots on the back of his head. I’ve told him to wear a hat or get some spray paint ’cause they (the bald spots) detract from his sermon.

It’s a weird pattern. Reminds me of the nuclear symbol.

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
9:38 pm

Hillbilly
Subtitles…my sentiments precisely…never see them for Brooklynese..

DUSTY

Not familiar with “I’ll Fly Away?” Nanh…it’s a classic…one of my all time favorites, too…

curious

In my family we don’t do “viewing.” Get ‘em in the ground within 24 hours and sit shiva…and, folks, lemme tell ya, sitting shiva and the customary Southern funeral “sitting up” may conflict in some areas, but when it comes to the eats and talking about the departed…!..

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
9:44 pm

Redneck’s version was closer but it’s not fast enough either. That song, and many others, were written by the late Albert E Brumley.

josef

Reading back through some mid 1800’s diaries, I think a next day funeral was more customary in our area, than what we have now. Basically, as soon as they could get a casket built and a hole dug, and the body ready (which usually took a day), they put them away. And often it was leave the funeral and head right back to work. I guess the die one day, lay out a day, and then buried the next, came about later but I don’t know exactly when.

Kamchak

February 19th, 2011
9:50 pm

And Lord help you if you’re visiting a church and accidently sit in one of the old women’s “place”.

Maybe it’s a family or regional thing, but any “old woman” that I know would gladly do the future guilt trip thing rather than make a spectacle here and now.

Dusty

February 19th, 2011
9:52 pm

Thanks, Bruther RedNeck. I couldn’t quite pick up the tune in that one but I’ll try another time. If I can get the tune in my head I can pick it out on the piano. Won’t be the same but……

G’nite…

Outside the Perimeter

February 19th, 2011
9:53 pm

Has anyone seen the central-leaning blogs on the Daily Ko(ok)s? these days? Are they sick or sumpin?

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
9:54 pm

do the future guilt trip thing rather than make a spectacle here and now.

You got a point there. I’ve never seen anybody make a scene but you can always see the daggers. And you’ll forever after be known as, “the one who took Mrs. Smith’s seat” or at least ’til they finally accept you, which could be a long time. And there’s a lot more leverage in dragging the future guilt trip thing out forever than a one time scene.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 19th, 2011
9:58 pm

josef nix

February 19th, 2011
10:02 pm

okay, night time…enjoyed…take care and sleep well…

Kamchak

February 19th, 2011
10:02 pm

Hillbilly Deluxe

Of course no one would make a scene at a funeral. After all, whoever did, would never live it down.

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 19th, 2011
10:33 pm

Del:

I was in 2nd Division M.P.’s at Lejeune for about 6 months during the spring to fall, 1968.

You didn’t walk around the base by yourself at night. It was already that bad.

0311/0317 - 1811/1801

February 19th, 2011
10:33 pm

Dave R.

February 19th, 2011
11:02 pm

“I don’t have a problem with a well made argument borne of facts and beliefs at all, but you really are applying a double standard here to prop yourself up.”

At some point you may get to understanding the same language I do, that being English, but until then you’ll continue to miss the point being made with facts as they are, not what you wish them to be.

jewcowboy

February 20th, 2011
3:51 am

You all are pathetic…I’m looking at the time stamp on your posts…and you posting on a freakin gorgeous 70 degree and sunny day…you should be ashamed of yourselves…sitting behind computers when nature is flaunting all of its pomp…just for us to enjoy.

“Joy in looking and comprehending is nature’s most beautiful gift.” ~ Albert Einstein

Dudley (United we stand, Divided we beg)

February 20th, 2011
6:22 am

6 1/2 hours till the Daytona 500

Southern Comfort

February 20th, 2011
9:20 am

Bosch

February 20th, 2011
9:38 am

Oh, I’m sorry I missed the funeral conversation last night. When my mom died last summer, there were women at her house putting up tables and bringing in food before me and my sisters could turn around. I was like “who ARE these people?” I don’t even know how they got the news so quickly. I think my dad is still eating some of those casseroles.

A sad realization is that you do have to have someone not close to the family stay at the house during the funeral — apparently thieves read obituaries — who knew? I guess I’m not of the criminal mind.

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February 20th, 2011
10:13 am

Milwaukee’s “Journal Sentinel” has an article about doctors handing out notes excusing protesters for illness. One doctor allows JS to use his name…Lou Sanner, M.D., Madison, WI. He claims their illness is “stress” related.

An ObamaCare(s) physician?

schnirt

Dave R.

February 20th, 2011
10:26 am

If I were Gov. Walker, I’d pull a Reagan and fire them all.

I’ll bet there are a bunch of trained educators out there waiting for any kind of employment right now.

AmVet

February 20th, 2011
11:20 am

Paulo, thanks for the Malaika. A nice song for a Sunday morning.

Here’s a nice Jackson Browne song about Laura Nyro, who had a BIG influence on him and Todd Rundgren, among many others.

And yep, he’s right, that girl could sing…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddvJGDwOGj0

WooHoo WIgh Five

February 20th, 2011
11:27 am

Southern Comfort

February 20th, 2011
11:45 am

Oh, I’m sorry I missed the funeral conversation last night.

Me too…. When I worked for Popeye’s in high school, you always knew when somebody had died because people started coming in buying chicken 50 pieces or more at a time. I agree with HD too. When I go, I want the whole show, all 3-4 hours worth.

On Wisconsin, even though Walker is still denying his true intent, the teachers should return to work. The education of the kids should come first. I’d even let the GOP have their way. They’ll find out eventually that a majority in politics is not a permanent majority. If/when the Democratic party and/or unions return serve, they’ll have nobody but themselves to blame for legislating without compromise.

Dave R.

February 20th, 2011
11:59 am

Well, apparently ONE Democrat “profile in courage” is willing to come back into town this morning if the Governor puts collective bargaining back into the bill. However, the Senate President isn’t willing to compromise just yet.

How about this: You can have collective bargaining and ONLY collective bargaining for all aspects of your pay and benefits back, but you still have to re-certify each year and you can’t be forced to join a union of you don’t want to. And if they don’t come back, I think the Governor should withhold payment to these clowns until they do come back into town.

Think any of the “profiles in courage” will agree to that?

I doubt it.

Kamchak

February 20th, 2011
12:00 pm

Southern Comfort

February 20th, 2011
12:16 pm

,i>How about this: You can have collective bargaining and ONLY collective bargaining for all aspects of your pay and benefits back, but you still have to re-certify each year and you can’t be forced to join a union of you don’t want to.

You should really spend some time with members of NTEU, which represents federal workers. We don’t have to re-certify every year, but you don’t have to pay dues if you don’t want to join. Even if you don’t pay dues, you’re covered under the collective bargaining agreement. That agreement covers job placement, schedules, and other minor things, but it does not cover anything related to national security. We can’t strike. We can’t call a slow down. Most of all, contrary to popular opinion, if you fu*k up, you still get fired. There are procedures in place to ensure you’re not just targeted because someone doesn’t like you.

He doesn’t have to be labeled a “profile in courage”. Why not just call him someone who wants to deal with common sense? I don’t like what the Democratic legislators did, as that sets up a precedent for others to do that instead of negotiating and debating like civilized people.

Somehow the term “compromise” has become one of the 7 words you can never say on tv. I doubt very seriously Thomas Jefferson or any other drafters of the Constitution came into Philadelphia and said, “This is what the Constitution will say. If you don’t like it, oh well.” The document is a testament to compromise as it took many who had many different ideas to come up with something that has lasted for so long. Maybe there will be a mass campaign to dejackassify (if that’s a word) all elected offices and put statesmen back to where they need to be.

getalife

February 20th, 2011
12:17 pm

First they came for the unions.

And the cons bowed down.

Dave R.

February 20th, 2011
12:25 pm

“Somehow the term “compromise” has become one of the 7 words you can never say on tv.”

It certainly wasn’t said much in the past 2 years in Congress.

Actions have consequences. If the Democrat “leadership” in the House and Senate hadn’t bulled through bill after bill the American people didn’t want, they might not have lost so many House seats, Governors and legislatures across the country last November.

I find it laughable that everyone calling for compromise this year wouldn’t hear of it in the past 2 years. How many times did we see or hear “You lost, we won”?

I say dock the legislator’s pay beginning the first day they refused to return. Let’s see how long they can stay in a hotel room when money isn’t coming in.

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February 20th, 2011
12:26 pm

Kamchak:

Did you vote on whether Sarah Palin’s leopard heels were appropriate for a presidential hopeful?

It’s among the “hot topics” at HolloWood’s Life.

Go for it!