The one Republican who comes off as presidential

As I noted yesterday, I read and was not impressed by Mitt Romney’s speech over the weekend at CPAC. I’ve had the chance to speak with Romney at some length, and he’s smart and well-informed. However, at heart he is also badly out of step with the modern Republican Party, and as a result has to pretend he’s something he isn’t.

In other words, his fellow Republicans are probably right to look at him suspiciously. He doesn’t believe half the stuff he says, he doesn’t say half the stuff he believes. I guess that makes him dishonest, but in one sense there’s something honest about his dishonesty, because he just can’t hide it well. He knows all the dance moves, but he doesn’t know how to dance. Unlike Newt Gingrich, for example, Romney can’t bring himself to really believe all the things he thinks he has to say.

I came away a lot more impressed after reading the CPAC speech of Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels. While I disagree with a lot of what he had to say, that’s to be expected. What I found reassuring is that Daniels comes across as a serious, mature politician who would not be out of place in the White House. You don’t have to agree with a person’s policies to recognize leadership potential. And frankly, he’s the only possible Republican candidate I would describe that way.

For example, I doubt the rest of the GOP field could pull off a statement to the CPAC faithful cautioning them to keep things in perspective and suggesting compromise in the national interest might not be so bad:

“Purity in martyrdom is for suicide bombers. King Pyrrhus is remembered, but his nation disappeared. Winston Churchill set aside his lifetime loathing of Communism in order to fight World War II. Challenged as a hypocrite, he said that when the safety of Britain was at stake, his “conscience became a good girl.” We are at such a moment. I for one have no interest in standing in the wreckage of our Republic saying “I told you so” or “You should’ve done it my way.”

The question is whether “serious” and “mature” are attributes that GOP primary voters will find appealing, or whether they’re looking for something else this time around. I expect Barack Obama to win re-election no matter who runs against him, but if Daniels were to pull it off somehow, the country would still be in good hands.

– Jay Bookman

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USinUK

February 15th, 2011
7:35 am

“he said that when the safety of Britain was at stake, his “conscience became a good girl.””

and that’s all well and good when you’re talking about people dropping bombs on London, Liverpool and Coventry, but how do you apply that to taxes?

how do you apply that to Social Security?

how do you apply that to public prayer?

the problem is that the GOP has been hijacked by people who say “GOD SAYS …” … there’s no compromising with that kind of philosophy – whether you’re talking taxes or tithing …

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
7:35 am

ooooo … firsties …

Mick

February 15th, 2011
7:39 am

I don’t believe obama getting re-elected is a done deal. Higher gas prices at the pump, lagging unemployment at the time could spell doom. Even though the birthers have been dismissed, the ratcheting up of their claims could strip independent voters from obama. As long as we can break the bush/clinton cycle (No Jeb/Hillary!!) we will be better off. At least mitch daniels took on el rushbo and doesn’t seem to have backpedalled. No matter who is president, it has become a thankless job full of complex problems with no simple solutions. This seems to be beyond the grasp of the american electorate. It’s going to be a rough decade, no matter what…

Jimmy62

February 15th, 2011
7:40 am

If only Obama had shown such restraint, but no one can look at the health care bill and tell me that was a sign of a mature group of politicians. Not when even Pelosi was saying she didn’t really know what was in it and wouldn’t till it was passed.

It’s up to the GOP to be the grownups. It’s pretty obvious now that Obama isn’t going to jack for the economy, he’s just going to wait for the GOP to do it and then paint them as evil and uncaring for not wanting to spend money that we don’t have.

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 15th, 2011
7:41 am

The question is whether “serious” and “mature” are attributes that GOP primary voters will find appealing, or whether they’re looking for something else this time around.

I’ll say no. The primary candidates will not project “serious” and “mature”, therefore that’s not what the voters will find appealing. The primary candiates will try to out “conservative” each other and try to out “anti-Obama” each other. The purpose of the primary is to cater to the base to get the nomination. “Serious” and “mature” are not attributes that are well suited for primary campaign themes for either party. They may work well in general elections, but not for primaries.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
7:42 am

“Not when even Pelosi was saying she didn’t really know what was in it and wouldn’t till it was passed.”

She didn’t say that. That’s gone beyond a “misunderstanding” and has approached the level of being a flat out lie. It’s been debunked here many, many, many, many times and the truth about what she said it easy to find.

I suggest you do some self-education and FIND OUT what she really said.

USMC dawg

February 15th, 2011
7:42 am

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
7:43 am

“that Obama isn’t going to jack for the economy”

which leads to the musical question:

do people just not read the news?

GDP is in growth, private businesses are hiring …

sorry, bub, but the economy is heading in the right direction whether you like it or not

Chaps

February 15th, 2011
7:43 am

In 2008, the media built uo John McCain as the best Republican candidate. That didn’t work out so well. I wonder if Bookman expects us to believe that he really wants the GOP to nominate someone who has a chance to win.

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
7:44 am

dude. seriously? the Moonie Times???

Real Scooter

February 15th, 2011
7:45 am

If the GOP manages to trot out someone to beat Obama in 2012 it will really surprize me.
Good morn all!!!

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 15th, 2011
7:45 am

Doggone & USinner

You two know that facts don’t stand up to rhetoric in today’s political climate. People don’t believe facts that don’t match their perceptions and/or biases. :)

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
7:46 am

Hi SoCo – I believe that’s called the Law of “Lalalalalalalalalalala, I can’t hear you”

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
7:46 am

Hi Scooter-puss!

Mick

February 15th, 2011
7:47 am

usmc

Where were you during the last admin? How come all of a sudden the deficit is issue number 1? Why was the sky the limit for the last pres and now that’s all we hear deficit? It’s just so transparent that this issue only applies when the dems are in the white house..

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
7:48 am

“You two know that facts don’t stand up to rhetoric in today’s political climate”

Yeah, no doubt…but to harp back to a point on the previous blog…it’s what we NEED to do. Counter those lies and not be AFRAID to call them what they are.

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 15th, 2011
7:49 am

LOL!!! I couldn’t remember the name of that law at the time, but yeah, that’s the one.

MiltonMan

February 15th, 2011
7:49 am

Bookman was convinced that the Democrats would not be slapped around as bad as they were last November. Democrats and their “Hope” and “Change” still being preached. Blue states have lost electoral votes; Obama will be lucky to win the same states he won in ‘08 like Virginia, Ohio, etc.

kitty

February 15th, 2011
7:51 am

Sounds like Daniels actually thinks. I read somewhere that he said the GOP had to put the social baloney….baloney is my word….aside and concentrate on jobs and the economy. THAT was refreshing. Too bad the GOP didn’t listen as HR 3 attested.

SpaceyG

February 15th, 2011
7:51 am

Should Sarah Palin be in, for example, the NH primary those words might start sounding better’n better.

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 15th, 2011
7:51 am

Doggone

True. I’m up for that. My favorite one is the 47% that pay no fed income taxes. Anytime somebody argues that, I take it as my job to remind them that Bush pushed that number up, and it would have gone down had people argued that letting his temporary tax cut expire should have happened as designed.

kitty

February 15th, 2011
7:51 am

I should add that critical thinking is rare commodity for the GOP. They are too stuck in their ideology which gets us nowhere.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
7:52 am

“Anytime somebody argues that, I take it as my job to remind them that Bush pushed that number up”

Exactly!

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
7:52 am

“Bush pushed that number up”

effing socialist

Real Scooter

February 15th, 2011
7:54 am

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
7:43 am

A little off topic,but I have to agree with you on the economy. I let my portfolio stay as it was before the crash on your advice(thanks).It is now only a few thousand away from being back where it was.
Things are getting better,at least for me anyway.

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 15th, 2011
7:56 am

RS

Didn’t you get the memo that Obama’s anti-business and anti-capitalism? I think that explains why the markets are up and GDP is creeping up. He’s trying to destroy the economy. :)

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
7:56 am

Scooter – well, fercryingoutloud, don’t TELL anyone! they need to wallow in doom and gloom in order to feel good about themselves

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
7:57 am

There’s an amusing poll on CNN today (and yes, I already know they aren’t scientific) – that asks:

“Which party do you trust more in the battle over the U.S. federal budget”

As of right this minute it stands at:
Neither 46% 17042
Democratic 31% 11419
Republican 22% 8026
Both 1% 313
Total votes: 36800

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 15th, 2011
7:58 am

I should add that critical thinking is rare commodity for the GOP. They are too stuck in their ideology which gets us nowhere.

Kinda like the no vote on adding language to the extension of the Patriot Act that said:
The motion would have added language to the measure stating that investigations of U.S. citizens under an extended authority “shall be conducted in a manner that complies with the Constitution of the United States,” including the Bill of Rights, and would have expedited any federal court proceedings involving investigations of U.S. citizens related to the Patriot Act.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/02/patriot-act-extension-passes-h.html

Granted, it was an attempt by house Democratic members to derail the vote, but it seems like adding language like that would protect citizens and uphold the Constitution. I thought that’s what the GOP was all about.

Joel Edge

February 15th, 2011
7:59 am

What a speech. Hope and Change- Republican style. If more liberals like Jay endorse him, it’s the kiss of death.
I agree with you on Romney, Jay. But I’ll pick my own candidate, thank you.

Mick

February 15th, 2011
7:59 am

usinuk

I thought I’d be first today but you’re just too quick on the draw…

JohnnyReb

February 15th, 2011
7:59 am

It’s not surprsing Jay that a Liberal such as yourself would go for someone who would compromise to your ideology. Daniels hasn’t a prayer.

It’s also very revealing that all the Leftist media, and now you, are pushing the thought that Obama is a shoe-in. This after the biggest political beating in modern history. Keep hanging on to that thought the mid-terms were the result of unemployment.

Real Scooter

February 15th, 2011
8:00 am

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
7:57 am

Add me to 46% crowd!

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:01 am

“Add me to 46% crowd!”

Me too, actually

Mick

February 15th, 2011
8:05 am

jreb

I’m in that camp, obama can be beat…there’s enough money out there to do the job and if the economy and unemployment don’t improve – all bets are off…

JohnnyReb

February 15th, 2011
8:07 am

Us true Southerners, you know the ones born and raised here by the grace of God, say where there is smoke, there is fire. There is too much smoke around Barry’s birth certificate. Considering the opposition to him over the issue, please pray tell bleeding hearts, why he just doesn’t make it public?

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:08 am

“why he just doesn’t make it public?”

He did

Paul

February 15th, 2011
8:08 am

““Purity in martyrdom is for suicide bombers.”

I’d have loved to have seen a sweep of the audience when he said that. “Cheer! Clap clap! Wait…. what…. huh?!!?”

It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out vs the Romney “I just gotta get thru this” approach. If Daniels has no interest in running it answers the ‘why’ question.

Gotta say, isn’t it nice to have a politician so transparent that even when he reads the lines on the script you can still say “he doesn’t really believe this…..”

BlahBlahBlah

February 15th, 2011
8:10 am

Frankly, the Democratic field in 2016 is just as barren as the Republicans in 2012. No serious Republican candidate will run in 2012 vs. Obama when they can run for an “open” Oval Office seat in 2016.

Jindal, Christie, Daniels etc. are all MUCH better off, and are young enough, to wait an additional 4 years.

Real Scooter

February 15th, 2011
8:12 am

JohnnyReb

February 15th, 2011
8:07 am

I think you may have opened a can of worms here. Again! :lol:

Mick

February 15th, 2011
8:12 am

Here’s one prediction from a former jersey boy, christie will not be re-elected..

Paul

February 15th, 2011
8:13 am

JohnnyReb

February 15th, 2011
8:13 am

Doggone, a certificate of live birth is not the same as a birth certificate. A certificate of live birth is granted when a woman produces a baby, says it’s her’s and there is no birth certificate for the child.

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
8:13 am

“There is too much smoke around Barry’s birth certificate.”

:lol:

only to those of you stupid enough to smoke the wacky baccy …

How Big was It?

February 15th, 2011
8:13 am

True. I’m up for that. My favorite one is the 47% that pay no fed income taxes.

I propose that one way to counter the stoopid is with a bigger lie. For example, one might respond to the 47% pay no income taxes by saying, “…and the data clearly shows that 46 of the 47 percent are Republicans that identified themselves as white Christian males between the ages of 45 and 105.” Then again, that might not even be a stretch, come to think of it.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:14 am

“a certificate of live birth is not the same as a birth certificate”

yes, it is actually – but you’re not interested in the truth anyway

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
8:15 am

Paul – 8:13 – :lol:

brilliant!

Real Scooter

February 15th, 2011
8:15 am

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:08 am

We still haven’t seen the long form yet! :grin:

JohnnyReb

February 15th, 2011
8:15 am

Real Scotter – my apologies. The Republican nominee will be Chris Christy or possibly, dare I write it, Newt Gingrich. They are the only two who have demonstrated a true belief to work for Conservative principles.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:18 am

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
8:21 am

““a certificate of live birth is not the same as a birth certificate””

:lol:

Orly Taitz just got lady wood.

Paul

February 15th, 2011
8:22 am

I suppose the flip question is, could a Democrat win the nomination by hammering entitlement reform? Or large domestic cuts?

I suppose Pres Obama can win the nomination even though he’s advocated both. But he’s an exception. With his just released budget, we have an example of actions contrasting with words.

:-)

Keep up the good fight!

February 15th, 2011
8:22 am

Wingnut Birther now claim: if we create enough smoke screen, why given our perception there must be a fire!

Paul

February 15th, 2011
8:22 am

USinUK

Firsties twice! Bosch is gonna be so jealous -

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 15th, 2011
8:23 am

We still haven’t seen the long form yet!

Hell, I haven’t seen MY long form birth certificate yet, and I’ll be 38 this year. Nobody’s ever asked for it either. Until the birth of my daughter, I had never seen anybody’s long form birth certificate. So, why in the hell is it so damn important to see Obama’s?

Mick

February 15th, 2011
8:24 am

The birthers will have an effect on the next election. Chris christie is nothing more than a fat bully wearing an empty suit, an apt face for the modern reublican party.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:24 am

“With his just released budget, we have an example of actions contrasting with words”

Never believe that a presented budget reflects anything except bargaining points. It’s like contract negotiations with a union, both sides put in things they KNOW are going to be taken out or changed during the discussions. This really IS a case of “not knowing what’s in it until it’s passed”!

Paul

February 15th, 2011
8:24 am

Doggone/GA – SoCom

and on that other topic, answer from 2008 but still applicable

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/do_40_percent_of_americans_pay_no.html

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
8:25 am

Paul – “Firsties twice! Bosch is gonna be so jealous -”

well SOMEone has to maintain standards here … (they’re low, but we’ve got ‘em!)

;-)

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
8:26 am

“So, why in the hell is it so damn important to see Obama’s?”

because he’s a pinko-commie-socialist-muslim-brotherhood-sympathizer-Kenyan, that’s why … (NOT because he’s dusky)

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:26 am

“and on that other topic, answer from 2008 but still applicable”

And how many people will STILL come here and pretend that 47% pay NO TAXES?

Jim Warren

February 15th, 2011
8:26 am

As long as well buy into the media blue vs. red mindset, our country is doomed to national cognitive dissonance.

Bubba

February 15th, 2011
8:27 am

Bobby Jindal is certainly presidential. But probably not electable.

Mick

February 15th, 2011
8:28 am

sc

It’s the perfect non-issue, wedge issue, the birthers won’t go away even if the long form were to be produced (it’s fraudulent). See what I mean?

straitroad

February 15th, 2011
8:28 am

Since when has a politician ever said what they believed? Welcome to the real world Jay. I don’t listen to anything a politician says, rather I assess what they have done in the past. Romney isn’t a perfect candidate by any stretch but he has governed and has experience in running business and non-profit organizations. Unlike Soetero, Romney doesn’t need low level training. Jay, tell me you didn’t vote for a guy with zero experience based solely on what he told you he would do. Tell me you didn’t pin your hopes on what a politician told you in campaign sound bites. Only children use that type of logic.

Paul

February 15th, 2011
8:29 am

Doggone/GA

I know his budget director used that argument, but I see it frankly, given the current environment, as a disappointing failure of leadership. After all the talk, the commission, etc, I think people were expecting more than a miniscule percentage and bargaining chips. It just reinforces the perception of politics as usual.

Remember those past threads about how the incoming president (Obama) was stuck with the outgoing president’s budget? The budget was passed by the Democratic Congress without talk of ‘bargaining chips’ or ‘going-in position.’ Pres Bush put together a budget and the Congress took it as a serious statement of intent.

Now, it’s not.

Sigh……

Darwin

February 15th, 2011
8:30 am

An intelligent Republican. Now that’s an oxymoron.

JohnnyReb

February 15th, 2011
8:31 am

Doggone, if the certified birth certificate was available for public display, Hawaii would make it a tourist attraction and MSNBC would have a shot of it in each and every program introduction. Matthews would be selling T-Shirts.

Paul

February 15th, 2011
8:32 am

Doggone/GA

I believe many say ‘pay no federal INCOME taxes’ and the counter is ‘yeah, but they pay OTHER federal taxes.’

So it’s true many pay no income tax but do pay other federal tax. And the effect of those other taxes is still way more onerous on low to middle income households than it is on the top couple percent.

Marie

February 15th, 2011
8:34 am

Jay,

Obama won in part because he was able to win VA and NC and I’m not so sure he’ll be able to repeat that feat in 2012. In addition, he appeared as a charming moderate with a silver tongue. He was also a novelty and was young, fresh, and handsome looking. Well in the words of that old blues song “The Thrill is Gone”. While anything can happen between now and Nov., 2012 including Obama being challenged by another Democrat or a strong independent candidate running; don’t expect him simply waltzing back into the WH as he just doesn’t have the ability to moderate like Clinton.

Real Scooter

February 15th, 2011
8:34 am

Real Scotter – my apologies

No apology necessary JReb.I can’t agree with you on Chris and Newt though.It is going to be interesting to see what happens.IMHO,it really doesn’t matter because the middle class will take a beating as usual.

Joel Edge

February 15th, 2011
8:34 am

Go Hillary!!
“deserve to have the same rights that they saw being played out in Egypt and are part of their own birthright.”

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/15/iranian-lawmakers-execute-opposition-leaders/

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:35 am

“Hawaii would make it a tourist attraction”

No, they wouldn’t. They have a law on the books that only those with authority are authorized to see it. That means on Obama or his family members can request to see it. It’s not public record and you can’t just walk up and demand a copy.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:36 am

Mr. Holmes

February 15th, 2011
8:37 am

From the little I’ve seen of him, Tim Pawlenty also strikes me as a Republican under whose administration I would not fear for the future of the Republic.

What’s depressing is that, up through the 1996 election, most GOP contenders were like this (the occasional Pat Robertson notwithstanding). Now it’s like the loonier the candidate, the more fervor from the right-wing base and the greater the national profile.

But I have faith in the moderate middle. If some whackjob like Palin or Bachmann or Newt gets the nomination, I’m pretty confident Obama will win comfortably.

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
8:37 am

Joel – the BBC had a funny take on that quote last night – they talked about the highwire act the US had to play with Egypt, with whom we’ve had a 30-year relationship. “with Iran, they’ve had a 40-year divorce”

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:37 am

“So it’s true many pay no income tax but do pay other federal tax. And the effect of those other taxes is still way more onerous on low to middle income households than it is on the top couple percent”

Certainly…YOU know that, and *I* know that…but that doesn’t stop those committed to perpetuating the lies.

You Distort/We Deride

February 15th, 2011
8:37 am

Finally, the Republicans take control over the House and our economy is on an uptick.

The elections of 2010 have born fruit! Just moments after the swearing in of the new Congressmen and the business climate couldn’t be peachier!

larry

February 15th, 2011
8:38 am

I dont have a long form birth certificate , just a certificate of live birth as stated by the state of Georgia.
I am 46 and was born at Kennestone Hospital.

Looks like to me they would try something else besides this birth certificate mess to get him out of office.

StJ

February 15th, 2011
8:38 am

“He doesn’t believe half the stuff he says, he doesn’t say half the stuff he believes. I guess that makes him dishonest…”

The same could be said for Obama. But, this is a liberal blog, so he can do no wrong here.

JohnnyReb

February 15th, 2011
8:39 am

Doggone – so how did FactCheck get their hands on it to make photos?

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:40 am

“But, this is a liberal blog, so he can do no wrong here.”

Keep ON repeating that lie

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:41 am

“so how did FactCheck get their hands on it to make photos?”

Try actually READING what they wrote

Paul

February 15th, 2011
8:41 am

I’m off for the gym.

Later -

Real Scooter

February 15th, 2011
8:42 am

Southern Comfort (E.O.I.)

February 15th, 2011
8:23 am

I am old enough to be your dad and have only one birth certificate.It’s rather short too!
I hope you don’t have to kick me out of the country because of that. LMAO

Joel Edge

February 15th, 2011
8:42 am

“with Iran, they’ve had a 40-year divorce”
And a divorce means you can just quit faking it. Never cared for this woman when she was first lady. Over the years she has gone up in my estimation. She seems to have more spine than a lot politicians. Maybe it comes from being married to Bill.

Jay

February 15th, 2011
8:43 am

According to a new Fox News poll, Obama would defeat every Republican in the field pretty handily if the election were held today. He would be up 48-41 over Romney, 49-41 over Huckabee, and nobody else would even come within 20 points.

The poll also throws another shovel-full of dirt on Palin’s presidential chances. It runs through the entire field of GOP possibilities, asking whether each candidate would make a good president.

Fifty-six percent believe that Palin would not make a good president. That’s 56 percent of Republicans. Overall, 72 percent said she wouldn’t make a good president. The only person who did worse was Donald Trump.

JohnnyReb

February 15th, 2011
8:43 am

Doggone, you’re so easy.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:44 am

Real Scooter…what’s so truly funny about the whole “birth certificate” thing is IT DOESN’T MATTER. He could have been born in Kenya, on the moon, or in Panama. IT DOESN’T MATTER. His Mother was an American citizen and therefore HE is an American citizen, regardless of where he was born.

You Distort/We Deride

February 15th, 2011
8:46 am

There goes Jay again, hating on Palin.

Oh. Wait a minute. That poll showed 56% of REPUBLICANS believe that Palin isn’t presidential material.

Hmmmm.

Jay hates Palin. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:48 am

“Doggone, you’re so easy.”

translation: I’m too ennamored of the lies to do the research that will prove the truth.

USinUK

February 15th, 2011
8:48 am

Joel – unfortunately, if she were elected to the WH, all we’d get would be a rerun of all the Clinton-hating we got in the 1990s … (particularly all the people they were responsible for killing)

birthers are silly

February 15th, 2011
8:49 am

if your #1 qualification for president is where he’s born, you have screwed up priorities.

I’d vote for a president from mars, siberia, or mogadishu if he or she could deliver solutions to these massive problems our congress and presidents have created in the past 40 years.

can we quit spending time on birth certificates, sexual preferences, affairs, not asking, not telling, immigrating, age, hair, sex, etc. nothing matters but leadership and policy.

hooray for mitch daniels – great, moderate, pragmatic thoughts

Real Scooter

February 15th, 2011
8:49 am

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:44 am

Another valid point there Doggone! I must agree.

Mick

February 15th, 2011
8:49 am

Jay@8:43

You probably would have the same results about jimmy carter at the same point in his administration, then the hostage crisis and along came reagan. I voted for carter in 76, then reagan in 80. I was a reagan democrat.

Joel Edge

February 15th, 2011
8:51 am

“According to a new Fox News poll”
If if it’s a Fox poll then it must be wrong. :)
I don’t see the economy coming back in a meaningful way. There’s plenty of time for Egypt and various other places to go to pot. Americans aren’t even paying attention to the next election. Yet. Give it time.

larry

February 15th, 2011
8:51 am

And i’ve never heard of such a thing like a long form birth certificate until he became president. Perhaps its another thing thats been made up.

@@

February 15th, 2011
8:51 am

Unlike Newt Gingrich, for example, Romney can’t bring himself to really believe all the things he thinks he has to say.

Funny! I see Gingrich the same way. And Daniels?

I’m good to go with any/all of the above.

So tell us, jay….did Obama’s supporters believe him when he said he’d address The Patriot Act? Torture? Guantanamo? Immediate end to the war in Iraq? A short war in Afghanistan? Earmarks? Lobbyists? J-O-B-S?

Will they vote for him again in spite of…

N-GA

February 15th, 2011
8:52 am

Get ready for higher interest rates and inflation like you haven’t seen in quite a while….

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2011
8:53 am

“Perhaps its another thing thats been made up.”

No, it’s not made up. It’s for real, but it’s the state’s record of the birth and is not public property. The “certificate” of live birth is what Hawaii issues (can’t speak for other states) when a “copy” of the birth certificate is requested. The “short form” is accepted by elections officials and passport officials (for example) as a legal birth certificate.