The narcissism of the neo-cons, Egypt edition

“It seems that a democratic revolution is sweeping the Middle East — spurred, I am sure, by American and allied actions in Iraq. (Our chattering classes will never admit this.)
– Jay Nordlinger, National Review

At last count, at least 50 Egyptians have been killed, more than a thousand injured and probably thousands arrested and imprisoned under what must be extremely frightening conditions. They have made those sacrifices and taken those risks for reasons that are very much their own, reasons born out of decades, centuries, even millenia of cruel repression and corruption.

To claim that they are instead taking such risks because they were inspired by the U.S. invasion of Iraq nine years ago is to attempt to rob them of credit for their own bravery. It is an act of theft by people who sit thousands of miles away in perfect safety, trying to boost their own self-regard by wrapping themselves in the courage of others.

– Jay Bookman

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Kim Chong Bong

January 30th, 2011
9:39 pm

The average drives logs in about 10,000 miles a year and if that driver gets about 25 mpg which is pretty low by today’s standards then that person would need about 400 gallons of gas a year and if they drove about the same amount of miles every week then that would mean they would use about eight gallons a week and if gas went up from 3 to 4 dollars a gallon then that person would need an extra 8 dollars a week and that’s enough to cause a housing collapse and a recession and just wait til you see what I can do after I use the bong.

Hillbilly Deluxe

January 30th, 2011
9:42 pm

Did the AFC have one luau too many this week???

I don’t know but when’s the last time you saw an 11-10 hockey game?

Soothsayer

January 30th, 2011
9:43 pm

“BTW,Sooth, I think the ultimate solution is in solar, hydrogen, and nuclear power, but until those sources are viable, we need to do the best we can to manage our current BEST solution.

Most of you need to go back and see how much of the housing bubble crash was actually caused by $4/gallon gas. There was no magical “all loans are now going up” date on these ARM loans. They all go up X days/years from inception. $4/gallon gas put people living on the edge over the edge. Faced with getting to work and buying groceries vs paying the bank, the bank lost. And it will happen again if gas goes to $4/gallon.

I just can’t wait to see all you liberals whine about Obama’s big oil buddies like you did Bush.”

You know, RB we’re finally getting somewhere. Except nuclear–and not because of the waste–because nuclear is facing “peak uranium” just the World is facing “peak oil.”

If you study a graph of the housing market and a graph of the oil spike you will find they follow the same parabolic shape. After the spike there is a retrenchment below the previous (before the spike) trend line and then a return to the trend line. The two are not related.

RB: it’s late and probably just you and me are here. What if I told you that every single thought in your head was placed there by some Right-Wing think tank? That what you believe has been carefully crafted by Corporate America? Nah! you wouldn’t believe something like that. Goodnight.

Michael H. Smith

January 30th, 2011
9:45 pm

Actually Soothsayer, multi fuel vehicles would be the wiser choice. However, in the case of hydrogen, while it can be used-burned as a fuel in the standard combustion engine, it is best used as an energy carrier employing a fuel cell to power electric motors where the energy efficiency is around 80% instead of the very wasteful 20% or so energy efficiency of the standard combustion engine.

Other countries like Brazil have multi-fuel cars but not us. Why? Well, as Ronald Reagan said the nine most terrifying words in the English language are, I’m from the government and I’m here to help. Thanks to our helpful government things like electric cars and multi-fuel cars will remain years away from our roads.

RW-(the original)

January 30th, 2011
9:47 pm

I don’t know but when’s the last time you saw an 11-10 hockey game?

Pretty much any NHL All Star game lately. The last one before this year was 2009 and it ended 12-11.

Soothsayer

January 30th, 2011
9:50 pm

“So the mostly sand covered middle east was once so lush with plant life and aglea it produced all this oil?”

In fact, this area was once a lush rainforest. Either because the Earth shifted on it’s axis or the Continents shifted, most of the areas with oil today were rainforests at one time.

Soothsayer

January 30th, 2011
9:54 pm

“Actually Soothsayer, multi fuel vehicles would be the wiser choice. However, in the case of hydrogen, while it can be used-burned as a fuel in the standard combustion engine, it is best used as an energy carrier employing a fuel cell to power electric motors where the energy efficiency is around 80% instead of the very wasteful 20% or so energy efficiency of the standard combustion engine.”

Agreed. The only problem is that fuel cells require noble metals–platinum, palladium, gold–to work and require 99%+ pure hydrogen to prevent fouling (read ruining the fuel cells) to work.Here again, there simply is not enough of these noble metals to furnish everyone with a fuel-cell vehicle.

Linda

January 30th, 2011
10:08 pm

I’m just dropping in here on this this blog for the first time in a week. I read a comment from Sat. afternoon at 3:28 that claimed that the wars have cost us $4 T dollars. That is a downright lie. They have cost us $1.1 T, according to:

http://costofwar.com/en/

The commenter exaggerated the cost almost 3 times. Was he a liar or just plain stupid?

Not one person, even those who engaged with him (?) afterward, challenged or corrected him. That is unsettling. Is this blog enlightening or just an exchange of ignorance?

I’m deeply concerned about out natl. debt & how it is affecting our economy & our natl. security. Until the American people, including those of you on this blog, understand that we:
are borrowing 40% of every nickel, dime, quarter & dollar we spend,
are spending $4 B per DAY in interest,
need to eliminate 40% of the fed. govt. just to BREAK EVEN,
need to eliminate another 10% of the fed. govt. to begin to pay down the debt of $14+T,
need to eliminate HALF of the fed. govt. to survive,
understand the wars are not nearly as costly as domestic spending,
understand that we are burning our food (ethanol)(wheat) in our gas tanks, causing inflation in both the grocery stores & at the gas pumps for no apparent reason, since we have plenty of our own oil & natural gas,
we are printing money out of thin air, causing additional inflation, &
we are in denial & our country is doomed.
May God have mercy on our souls.

Hillbilly Deluxe

January 30th, 2011
10:13 pm

RW @ 9:47

Good point.

getalife

January 30th, 2011
10:21 pm

“The commenter exaggerated the cost almost 3 times. Was he a liar or just plain stupid? ”

He is correct Linda:

“The true cost of the Iraq war: $3 trillion and beyond.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/03/AR2010090302200.html

Kamchak

January 30th, 2011
10:24 pm

getalife

January 30th, 2011
10:28 pm

I wonder if Linda knows the cost of the w economic collapse?

RB from Gwinnett

January 30th, 2011
10:28 pm

“In fact, this area was once a lush rainforest. Either because the Earth shifted on it’s axis or the Continents shifted, most of the areas with oil today were rainforests at one time.”

Where is the evidence Sooth? Have they dug down in the sand and found trees? Fossils? anything resembling a forest? Surely the forest housed an abundance of animal life. Where are the skeletal remains?

You do realize your position on this matter is counter to all liberal talking points that all climate change has been caused by George Bush’s bad environmental policies don’t you? Surely he didn’t cause it to change from cooling to heating in the 70’s AND turn middle east rain forests into deserts.

You know, I haven’t heard any of those points about middle east rain forests on talk radio. Have you? Maybe, Sooth, just maybe, talk radio is voicing what the people think and not the other way around.

Scout

January 30th, 2011
10:30 pm

Soothsayer :

A couple of points:

1) A “Black Flag” up the eastern coast by the Confederate Army would have caused the North to sue for peace as they didn’t want all their cities burned to the ground (as Sherman did). There was no effective Union Army to stop them.

2) The South would have also gained their independence if they had won at Gettysburg. The Union Army would have retreated to Washington with the Confederate Army hot on their heels.

3) Keep in mind that a huge portion of the North was sick of the war. By that time they just wanted to let the South go their way rather than lose any more sons, fathers and husbands.

As a matter of fact, any Northern newspaper that printed anything suggesting that was closed down by Liincoln and the editor put in jail. He did that by the dozens.

4) One final thing you may not be aware of that is very interesting.

In 1864, Lincoln sent Frances Blair (the Blair house now used in Washington, D.C. for Foreign Heads of State visits) to Richmond to meet with Jefferson Davis (a former friend). The purpose? Lincoln proposed that hostilities stop, that the Southern States return to the Union (slavery would have continued as provided for in the Emancipation Proclamation) and ……………. that the Union and Southern Armies combine to go to Mexico to throw the French (in violation of the Monroe Doctine) out. Mexico would then be claimed as U.S. territory.

Alas, this did not come to fruition for variious reasons and the rest is history.

Scout

January 30th, 2011
10:32 pm

Well, well, it looks as though the freedom loving demonstrators have released all of the terrorists held in Cairo jails.

That’s just wonderful.

Kamchak

January 30th, 2011
10:32 pm

I wonder if Linda knows the cost of the w economic collapse?

I’m thinking no.

Besides, it was all the fault of Fannie, Freddie,and the CRA.

Linda

January 30th, 2011
10:32 pm

getalife @ 10:21, I quoted costofwar.com. You quoted the Washington Post. Get a life.

Scout

January 30th, 2011
10:34 pm

………….. and another one:

“Egyptian looters destroy 2,000-year-old mummies in bid to steal King Tut’s treasures…”

That’s just wonderful.

getalife

January 30th, 2011
10:36 pm

Linda,

You should apologize for calling others “stupid” and “liar”.

We enjoy civility on this blog.

Linda

January 30th, 2011
10:37 pm

getalife @ 10:28, “the cost of the w economic collapse?” Are you yet on even keel?

The Dude

January 30th, 2011
10:39 pm

Dr Benny Peiser and Dr David Whitehouse, of the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), have written to John Hirst, chief executive of the beleaguered Met Office, asking for an explanation of a press release issued by his organisation on January 20 and headed “2010 – a near record year”. This won headlines by claiming that last year was hotter than any other in the past decade.

When the two men examined the original data from which this claim was derived – compiled by the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit and the Met Office’s Hadley Centre – it clearly showed 2010 as having been cooler than 2005 (and 1998) and equal to 2003. It emerged that, for the purposes of the press release, the data had been significantly adjusted.

Comparing the actual data for each year, from 2001 to 2010, with that given in the press release shows that for four years the original figure has been adjusted downwards. Only for 2010 was the data revised upwards, by the largest adjustment of all, allowing the Met Office to claim that 2010 was the hottest year of the decade.

Scout

January 30th, 2011
10:43 pm

Some of you guys had better wake up ………………..

“TEL AVIV – Islamists, in particular the anti-Western Muslim Brotherhood, seem poised to take power throughout the Middle East as a result of riots that have already toppled one Arab regime and are threatening others, in what some are calling only the latest wave of an Islamic “tsunami” sweeping the globe.”

RW-(the original)

January 30th, 2011
10:44 pm

The Dude,

Want to see some seriously adjusted “data” on warming?

I especially love the living graph that shows what they used to present as data back before it became agenda driven.

Linda

January 30th, 2011
10:46 pm

getalife @ 10:36, I have been called every horrible name on this blog. All it has done is encourage me to stand for my principles. I will not apologize to someone who flat out lies. If you did not lie, if you were just stupid, I apologize for your stupidity. The only civility on this blog is from conservatives when we try very hard.

getalife

January 30th, 2011
10:52 pm

That is hilarious Linda.

The author of my proof is one of the economists that actually predicted the w economic collapse.

Just admit you are wrong and apologize.

Get on even keel.

Scout

January 30th, 2011
10:56 pm

Hummmmm …………….

“Trump: Obama Has Turned U.S. Into China ‘Whipping Post’ ”

“Trump Slams Obama Mid-East Policies, U.S. Now ‘Laughing Stock of World’ ”

“Trump: I Would Take Down OPEC”

The Donald

January 30th, 2011
11:00 pm

“Trump: I will declare bankruptcy again and again”

Linda

January 30th, 2011
11:04 pm

getalife @ 10:52, I don’t think this is funny.
What is “the w economic collapse?”
The New York Times predicted the economic collapse in 1999!!!!!!!!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=prin

Wasn’t that 2 or 3 years before Bush came into office?

Get over yourself! I’m gone. May God bless you & yours.

Kamchak

January 30th, 2011
11:06 pm

“Trump: I will continue to marry and divorce big-breasted blonds.”

Scout

January 30th, 2011
11:09 pm

The Donald & Kammy:

That’s why I said, “Hummmmm …………”

getalife

January 30th, 2011
11:10 pm

Glad to help you out Linda.

You are at the right place to get informed with the truth and we can work on that civility problem.

Scout

January 30th, 2011
11:13 pm

Scout

January 30th, 2011
11:13 pm

Scout

January 30th, 2011
11:14 pm

Scout

January 30th, 2011
11:16 pm

AmVet

January 30th, 2011
11:30 pm

…if you were just stupid, I apologize for your stupidity. The only civility on this blog is from conservatives when we try very hard.

You have to laugh at the unintended irony.

So who apologizes for Linda’s lie and bald faced hypocrisy?

mystified

January 31st, 2011
6:48 am

Better late than never….It may be a bit much to say America did anything to inspire what is going on in Egypt; but it has to be a conservative movement. Everyone knows liberals don’t believe in anything enough to take that kind of a stand. They would be having sit ins and asking someone else to come fight their battle for them.

TaxPayer

January 31st, 2011
6:50 am

Linda

January 30th, 2011
10:46 pm
getalife @ 10:36, I have been called every horrible name on this blog. All it has done is encourage me to stand for my principles. I will not apologize to someone who flat out lies. If you did not lie, if you were just stupid, I apologize for your stupidity. The only civility on this blog is from conservatives when we try very hard

If only every blogger on here could raise themselves to Linda’s standard of civility, what a beautiful world we would have. Then again, perhaps you could try harder.

TaxPayer

January 31st, 2011
6:54 am

If conservatives would pay to fight their wars instead of passing the buck off on others, that would be a good start. Of course I’d be mystified if I ever saw that happen. They think that their wars can be funded by cutting taxes. What a laffer.

jt

January 31st, 2011
6:59 am

The narcissism of the neo-cons is no worse than the Hypocricy of Obama.

“Government shouldn’t be coercive”.

I know that we don’t HAVE to buy health insurance. But if we don’t, we will just work a certain amount of time and the government will take the money from that labor.

No coerscion here.

Bill Orvis White

January 31st, 2011
7:15 am

Ever since Saddam Hussein bombed the U.S. on September 11, the Honorable President George W. Bush instituted a commitment to the War on Terror. What’s going on now is a result of these bold moves as Mr. Bush states in his excellent memoir. If you haven’t read it, Jay, you very much need to. GW Bush stood up to the terrorists and stared them down just like the Honorable President Ronald Wilson Reagan stared down Mikhail Gorbachev in the late days of the Cold War which Mr. Reagan ended. It’s just like that, Jay.

Here’s the problem: Hussein Obama has no spine so now the jihadists are going to come in and take the country over just like they did in Iran with Jimmah Carter. Mark my words today: Egypt will have its own Islamic Revolution.

So, what should smart patriotic Americans do? Pull your money from the stock market and buy gold. Oil’s going up, folks! The markets are going way down because of that! BUY GOLD!

After y’all buy gold, stock up on your weapons cache and canned goods, buy a generator and place these items in a locked fortified building. It’s a matter of when these jihadists come to our shores.

Hussein Obama will fall to his jihadists brothers instead of empowering his good brothers.

Amen,
Bill

@@

January 31st, 2011
7:26 am

For all the Jimmy Carter fans…you’d best get behind Suleiman then, ’cause Carter thinks he’s the man, who can pull Egypt thru. Maybe he DID learn from his mistakes albeit too late for Iran.

Carter said Mubarak has become corrupt over his 30 years in power, but praised Mubarak’s newly appointed vice president, Omar Suleiman: “He’s an intelligent man whom I like very much.”

Never thought I’d see the day Carter and I agree, but ^^^ there you have it.

TaxPayer

January 31st, 2011
7:30 am

Ever since Saddam Hussein bombed the U.S. on September 11

Which plane did he die in. I think I missed that little detail. And I thought Reagan only supplied Saddam with biological warfare agents and chemical weapons and such. Thanks for the update on Reagan providing Saddam with bombs as well.

Mick

January 31st, 2011
7:34 am

orvis

What did the honorable president reagan do when we lost over 250 marines in lebanon?

A. Bomb them back to the stone age
B. Use CIA in covert operations
C. Diplomacy
D. Leave lebanon and let them sort out their own mess

jt

January 31st, 2011
7:42 am

What did the honorable president reagan do when we lost over 250 marines in lebanon?

The Honorable Sir Ronald Reagan kept American lives living.

Unlike despicable Neo-con Republican war-hawks and Democrat anti-war jellyfish.

There are principled people and then there is the R&D party.(and the MSM quislings).

AmVet

January 31st, 2011
7:45 am

Ever since Saddam Hussein bombed the U.S. on September 11…

Bill, you need some serous help. And/or serious medication. But the laughable and childish delusions you proffer here are mildly entertaining.

The good news is that after those 10 absurd words, there was no need to even try and wade through the rest of your dreck….

stands for decibels

January 31st, 2011
7:52 am

No coerscion here.

jt, why don’t you ever complain about this particular type of coercion? Just curious.

TaxPayer

January 31st, 2011
7:55 am

The Honorable Sir Paul McCartney said that Ronnie just refused to give peace a chance. Ronnie was a war monger.

Normal

January 31st, 2011
8:03 am

jt

January 31st, 2011
8:09 am

stands for decibels

“jt, why don’t you ever complain about this particular type of coercion? ”

My PRIVATE complaint is Because there is a human life concerned, IMHO.
Be that as it may, you will not hear me complain because it is none of my business. Nor the government ’s.

I cannot stand in front of every young innocent kid to block a bullet from our war on terror or drugs nor can I throw myself upon every pair of scissors.

It is all up to the individual. Government need not be involved.

Paul

January 31st, 2011
8:10 am

g’morning, Normal

From the link:

“There are certain things you do not do when our nation is at war,”

I am getting so tired of hearing that line whenever anything related to a DoD cut is mentioned. We’re going to have a presence in Afg or Iraq for years and years and years. So that excuse will never go away.

What it means is, “a portion of our military is engaged in hostile actions. Because of that, no cuts to Defense can be considered because…. we’re at war!!!”

jt

January 31st, 2011
8:14 am

The Honorable Sir Paul McCartney is an Obama supporter, henceforth a war-monger.

Henceforth, a dummy. There are many that believed the community organizer/politician from Chicago.

(he is just too proud to admit that he was fooled).

Peadawg

January 31st, 2011
8:19 am

Sounds like Jay woke up on the wrong side of the bed Saturday. Yikes.

“To claim that they are instead taking such risks because they were inspired by the U.S. invasion of Iraq nine years ago” – And YOU know otherwise? Really? How?

AmVet

January 31st, 2011
8:19 am

Good morning, Normal and Paul.

The line that jumped out at me from that article?

“The day this nation can’t afford to take care of her veterans is the day this nation should quit creating them.”

And to your point, jt, I’m not sure who are the biggest fools – those who believed BHO was NOT going to be GWB-lite, or the GWB drunks themselves, who nearly swooned after weeks of spewing on end, “But, but, but… he’s the biggest liberal in the history of the universe!!!”

Jokers to the left of me, clowns to the right…

jt

January 31st, 2011
8:20 am

TaxPayer

January 31st, 2011
8:21 am

I see jt did not post any disclaimer about war monger Ronnie. He merely says, “Obama is too.” Since jt thinks turnabout is fair play and has labeled the Honorable Sir Paul McCartney as a dummy, I suppose I should use his logic and say Ronnie is a dummy… and a proud fool. Too bad Ronnie could not add community organizer to his list of accomplishments as Obama did. At least Ronnie had “supplier of weapons of mass destruction to Saddam,” on his list of accomplishments to make up for it though.

Peadawg

January 31st, 2011
8:22 am

Sounds like someone doesn’t want to the US credit for trying to spread Democracy…..

independent thinker

January 31st, 2011
8:22 am

Sounds like it is time for the community organizer to go to Cairo with his Nobel peace prize buddy El Baredei and give another speech since the last one worked so well- unsuccessful uprising in Iran , Hezbollah peacefully takes over government in Lebanon with not a word from the US and now chaos in Egypt
with the Muslim Brotherhood on the verge of control. On the other hand the neo cons spent nearly 700 billion in Iraq only to get a country tilting towards Iran more and more. They also foced elections on the West Bank and Gaza bringing Hamas to power. And then there are those fanatic mujhadeen we brought to power in Afghanistan ie the Taliban.This was after Jimmy praised the ayatollahs that threw out the Shah. Yeah the US has a great track record with Arab countries-betting on the wrong horse every time.

TaxPayer

January 31st, 2011
8:24 am

I have not heard a single protester from Egypt proclaim that they were inspired by the US’s activities in Iraq. However, I did note some animosity from them when they saw those tear gas canisters used against them were made in the USA.

AmVet

January 31st, 2011
8:27 am

Peadawg, to that point that immediately follows yours, it is an utterly failed concept from the 18th century, particularly when the goal is to “spread” it to countries that have no earthly intention of implementing it.

Oh, and there is that nasty little bit about all those American lives needlessly wasted in the process…

TaxPayer

January 31st, 2011
8:29 am

I heard the protesters in Egypt were calling for a liberal democratic government. I guess that blows any chances of them getting Republican support.

stands for decibels

January 31st, 2011
8:29 am

Too bad Ronnie could not add community organizer to his list of accomplishments as Obama did.

A corporate community organizer, perhaps?

Normal

January 31st, 2011
8:29 am

Paul,
I’m all for for DoD cuts when it comes to Tanks, planes, and ships. I am NOT for cuts when it comes to our vererans and their health or any other bebefit for any reason.

jt

January 31st, 2011
8:30 am

TaxPayer

compare body counts.

There are leaders and there are “defense” industry quislings.

Normal

January 31st, 2011
8:32 am

The US trying to spread democracy is like Babtists trying to spread religion…both gets doors stut in their face…just sayin’

Paul

January 31st, 2011
8:32 am

AmVet

To clarify: wounded vets is one thing. But to use that line anything related to Defense comes up – as it usually is – is something else.

On a more to the point level, I do like that line you referenced. We can sure do a lot more to reduce the number of injured vets we produce.

independent thinker

“And then there are those fanatic mujhadeen we brought to power in Afghanistan ie the Taliban.”

You may want to take another look at that. Many would say they emerged from the Soviet occupation and took power independent of the US. We did give arms to resistance groups – the one most often cited as successful because of our antiair supplies was al Qaeda. Taliban became the government and was inward-looking while AQ continued its jihadist philosophy against area regimes and the West and was given sanctuary in Afg by the Taliban.

Paul

January 31st, 2011
8:36 am

Normal

I rather think vets are going to end up paying more for their health insurance – SecDef Gates said it’s eating their lunch. Just read where premiums for vet families on Tricare may rise to one or two thousand a year. That’s probably reasonable – I understand premiums have been constant since the 90s. But vet retired groups have launched a full-fledged campaign against any increases. Rather reminds me of NRA tactics – treat everything as pivotal and compromise on nothing. I think that’ll work against them.

buck@gon

January 31st, 2011
8:36 am

“To claim that they are instead taking such risks because they were inspired by the U.S. invasion of Iraq nine years ago is to attempt to rob them of credit for their own bravery. It is an act of theft by people who sit thousands of miles away in perfect safety, trying to boost their own self-regard by wrapping themselves in the courage of others.”

Oh BROTHER! Jay, you have some sort of conservative derangement syndrome. You have Jay Nordlinger for the right, and yet we have Chris Matthews on the left saying that essentially (to paraphrase), “the Iraqi War and the lies about weapons of mass destruction was not necessary because this revolution would have happened anyway.” Of course, J B is going to knock the reasonable conservative point of view and not mention the bilious kooky liberal one. (nothing to see here folks)

Wait just a minute Chris, Jay and Jay! We don’t know the final outcome of this revolution yet. If Egypt turns out to be a Muslim Brotherhood (ie., Islamic fundamentalist (iie., “bad guys”)) then yes, Matthews may have a point. Iraq may have been taken over by Iranian types of mullahs. If however, Egypt develops freedom, then it is much more likely that Nordlinger will be proven right–that freedom encourages courage for freedom.

Well, credit goes to you JB for not mentioning wmd or your once looney PNAC rant–now in the ash-heep of columns. You need to work on that derangement though. I recommend therapy.

TaxPayer

January 31st, 2011
8:36 am

compare body counts.

I heard GW’s body count in Iraq was pretty hefty for both the US and Iraq. Then again, you know how those people on websites are. They’ll post anything. I mean, how could anyone possibly know how many people died from just one of those bunker busters, for example. I have seen pictures and I could not distinquish between pulverized brick and powdered bone myself. How about you.

Mick

January 31st, 2011
8:45 am

Place a tax on all the war profiteers such as haliburton and friends for our courageous veterans long term care.

jt

January 31st, 2011
8:48 am

stands for decibels

Ronnie was right about Government’s involvement in our medical system.

You know it deep down inside,
Sir Ronald Reagan was the last decent good guy to inhabit the Whitehouse.

I understand that progressives everywhere believe that a strong centralized authoritarian government can be a force for positive achievements. In short, you believe in “good government”, as you ignore ALL history. In order to realize this impossible goal , you MUST tear down the man that uttered “government is not the answer to our problems,
government
IS,
the problem.

The first step to solving your problem is to admit that you have the problem.

The same logic/history used in Lincoln being the great Emancipator while enslaving us all is being used to tear down Sir Ronald Reagan as he tried to warn America about Washington.

You are better and smarter than that.

Make three Hail Ronnies,
and a Ron Paul contribution.

You’ll be alright.

Paul

January 31st, 2011
8:49 am

Mick

So medical supply companies provide drugs, operating room equipment, physical therapy and rehab equipment, etc. They’re profiting – tax them, too?

Lots of small businesses provide food for the dining halls, equipment for the morale and welfare activities – tax them, too?

Normal

January 31st, 2011
8:51 am

Paul,
Tricare doesn’t want to pay for Post Stress Syndrone or for brain damage rehab. That is the real reason they are trying to raise premiums. I see no reason why the money for one less f-35, or CVN
couldn’t help pay for that.

stands for decibels

January 31st, 2011
8:54 am

You know it deep down inside,
Sir Ronald Reagan was the last decent good guy to inhabit the Whitehouse.

What have I ever posted here that would lead you to believe such a thing about me?

Frankly, I find your unalloyed love for this former President to be somewhat comical.

Left wing management

January 31st, 2011
8:55 am

Here’s neo-con John Bolton a couple of days ago on the demonstrations in Egypt:

I don’t think we have evidence yet that these demonstrations are necessarily about democracy. You know the old saying, “one person, one vote, one time.” The Muslim Brotherhood doesn’t care about democracy, if they get into power you’re not going to have free and fair elections either.

I don’t know about you but it sounds like the neo-cons are talking out of both sides of their mouths.

Bolton criticizes the Obama administration, saying: “Those statements have been mush. I mean this is a case where we are far better advised to remain silent, try to understand better what’s going on, what the stakes are, rather than making statements that other people are parsing to say, “oh, they are supporting the demonstrators,” “oh, they are supporting the government.” I think there is confusion inside the administration.”

But Bolton is being disingenuous here. Surely he realizes that silence from the US administration would be even more deafening than the timid murmurings we’ve heard from them thus far.

But here’s where Bolton shows his (and the neo-cons) real colors:

I think there is a lot of opposition to the regime and a lot of opposition by the Muslim Brotherhood that is determined to bring down this secular military government, and install one of very harsh Sharia law, which would have enormous implications for the United States, for Israel, for other Arab governments in the region.

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January 31st, 2011
8:58 am

The call by so called ‘April 6 Shabab Movement’ came as an indefinite countrywide strike gripped the nation paralysing all essential services, including government offices, banks and trading centres.

As the oust Mubarak campaign gained strength, American and other world leaders ramped up pressure calling for an-orderly transition in the violence rocked country.

The ‘Shabab’ movement which has been formed of all opposition groups and the leaders declared that the march would start from Tahrir or Liberation Square and was aimed at forcing Mubarak to step down by Friday.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/egypt-protesters-serve-ultimatum-to-mubarak/142015-2.html

I know “shabab” means youth, but Geez….Shabab? Should’ve contemplated a bit longer before adopting that one.

Paul

January 31st, 2011
8:59 am

Normal

I think Tricare’s dropped the ball on a number of the direct-battle injuries you cited. My point was more to the vast bulk of retirees who have nothing combat or service-connected – just the normal costs associated with an aging population. I believe costs associated with that pool are quite a bit higher – given that they comprise about 9 million people.