Mere presence of a gay group enough to make some conservatives flee

Conservative opposition to gay rights is certainly nothing new. In the minds of many on the right, a call for equal rights for gay Americans gets translated into an appeal for “special rights” that ought to be rejected, and it’s been that way since the days of Anita Bryant and before.

But I’m honestly dismayed and surprised to learn just how deep that antipathy still runs.

Earlier this year, organizers of the annual Conservative Political Action Conference agreed to open its doors to GOProud,  a group of gay Republicans billing itself as a conservative alternative to the Log Cabin Republicans. The CPAC event is a highlight of the conservative political year, with thousands of activists from around the country traveling to Washington to meet and network.

GOProud is not exactly loud and proud. The group’s home page contains not a word about gay rights. Click on “About GOProud,” and there’s still no mention of a single gay-rights issue. Instead, you read that “GOProud is committed to a traditional conservative agenda that emphasizes limited government, individual liberty, free markets and a confident foreign policy. GOProud promotes our traditional conservative agenda by influencing politics and policy at the federal level.”

In other words, these are not people likely to be making out in the convention hall or waving rainbow flags.

Nonetheless, their mere presence at this year’s CPAC is causing a serious rift in conservative circles. Longtime stalwarts of the movement and the conference, including the Family Research Council, Jerry Falwall’s Liberty University and even the mainstream conservative Heritage Foundation are refusing to participate this year. Sen. Jim DeMint has also made it clear that he will not attend. As The New York Times reports, “Former Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska has not responded to an invitation to speak. Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor, has in the past criticized CPAC for being too “libertarian.” He declined to comment for this article but will also not attend.”

“Conservatives and homosexuals cannot coexist in a movement predicated on social values,” Family Research Council President Tony Perkins wrote last year in an e-mail to supporters. “Organizations whose whole reason for existence is to promote the forced public affirmation of homosexual conduct should not be welcomed at CPAC.”

To its credit, the American Conservative Union, which sponsors CPAC, is sticking by its decision despite the risk that attendees might be infected by gay cooties. Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, among others, still plan to attend. Mary Matalin is hosting a GOProud fundraiser at her Alexandria home.

209 comments Add your comment

Observer

January 28th, 2011
9:55 am

jm

January 28th, 2011
10:00 am

Dadgummit. We had One Hour and Seven Minutes to discuss a seriously important local issue. But now we’re back to distracting national stuff…..

Observer

January 28th, 2011
10:01 am

It just amazes me if you are Gay and Republican, maybe someone can explain it to me. Oh I know maybe it’s the Family Values, or small government, or, or , or………keep the blinders on and maybe one day you will be accepted by the “Conservatives” your party.

Adam

January 28th, 2011
10:02 am

I saw an interview of one of the GOProud guys who claims that liberal policies are ALL BAD for gay people and couples and that conservative policies are GOOD for gay people and couples.

On what planet does THAT make sense?

Adam

January 28th, 2011
10:06 am

Observer: I can get being gay and republican, or black and republican. The problem comes when you say that the policies are ALL good on the republican side for those groups, and saying anything non-Republican is ALL bad for those groups. I would think they would be all “everything is good, EXCEPT for these couple of small things that we plan to change their minds about.” But the whole argument within the party thing isn’t exactly in the GOP DNA.

barking frog

January 28th, 2011
10:08 am

If more were sexing instead of talking about it, this would be a happier world.

HDB

January 28th, 2011
10:08 am

“Conservative opposition to gay rights is certainly nothing new.”

…Add civil rights to it also; now gay people know how black people, Hispanics, Muslims, and other ethnic minorities feel!!!

Del

January 28th, 2011
10:09 am

Jay, I know that it’s difficult for you to understand but conservatives don’t go in lock step on every trivial issue. I know the lemming mentality is pretty much demanded on the left in order to be accepted but we don’t see it that way.

md

January 28th, 2011
10:11 am

No different than those on the left refusing to change the definition that allows the wee ones equal rights……..wrong is wrong…….but sure is nice to have a definition make one “right”.

Drive by/

Keep up the good fight!

January 28th, 2011
10:12 am

Lemmings on the left — nice unsupported claim without sensibility.

Libertarian

January 28th, 2011
10:12 am

“In other words, these are not people likely to be making out in the convention hall or waving rainbow flags.”

Um, do straight people make out in the convention hall?
Huckabee, Palin, and all those religious loons give conservatives a bad name. People always like to talk about “extreme” Muslims…well, Jerry Falwell, Tony Perkins, Huckabee, etc. are “extreme” Republicans. There are also some “extreme” dems. I’m not into extremes.

mike "hussein" smith

January 28th, 2011
10:12 am

The problem with conservatism is that it is being espoused by too many people who have absolutely no idea what conservatism is all about. They want to banish gays — i.e., destroy personal liberty — and cling to a one-size-fits all religiosity that should be no part of government policy. They believe in freedoms only for certain people, not all.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 28th, 2011
10:14 am

Adam – It makes sense to some regressives I guess, Normal people not so much

retired early

January 28th, 2011
10:14 am

Off topic…

During the state of the union speech, did anyone else think Obama’s reference to Boehner’s childhood and the America Dream being there for a young boy who…”swept the floor of his father’s store…” was an effort to get him to “tear up”…and he almost did. Anyone…I thought it was a hoot.

jm

January 28th, 2011
10:15 am

Libertarian 10:12 – I just had a flashback to the Al-Tipper kiss…. blah

Peadawg

January 28th, 2011
10:20 am

“despite the risk that attendees might be infected by gay cooties.” – LAMO! Love that line, Jay.

BTW, thanks Obama. My taxes went up $30 from last month!

jm

January 28th, 2011
10:20 am

On topic (previous blog page). Options for offering a check to mayoral authority.

1. Make the BOE powerless but keep them around to provide approval of the mayor’s choice for Supe.
2. Provide approval right of Mayor’s supe choice to the State Superintendent.
3. Approval rights with Governor’s office.
4. Approval rights vested with City Council.

A variety of ways to protect us against a Campbell administration exist. Which alternative is better, I don’t know. I do know we don’t need the BOE and their shenanigans.

Observer

January 28th, 2011
10:20 am

retired early,

He almost got him….lol.

Keep up the good fight!

January 28th, 2011
10:23 am

Observer and Adam…I dont always understand how someone can be gay and Republican if it is a single issue. But I do understand that politics is about a mix of issues, although many groups like to make elections seem a single issue. What confuses me is that if you are gay, you have a party whose stated official platform is to keep you from having equal non-religious rights. How that cannot be one of those issues at the top of your core principles to reject the Republicans is definitely confusing.

Patrick

January 28th, 2011
10:26 am

I am gay and have never understood how other gays could ever support the Republicans, even if they have fiscally conservative ideals. I guess maybe they disaprove of their own lifestyles and enjoy thinking of themselves as second-class citizens…

jm

January 28th, 2011
10:26 am

Darnit. Rahmbo’s back on the Chicago ballot….

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 28th, 2011
10:27 am

md@10:11 am

No different than those on the left refusing to change the definition that allows the wee ones equal rights…….
________________

The regressives talk about the progressives wanting to legalize the illegal immigrants to get their vote.

Now I guess the regressives want to get the vote of the infants (wee ones) I guess they need a new generation to offset the one that is dying of old age :-)

ty webb

January 28th, 2011
10:27 am

“It just amazes me if you are Gay and Republican, maybe someone can explain it to me.”

well said, and I struggle with the same question in relation to people with brains and who are democrats.

Observer

January 28th, 2011
10:28 am

keep up,

I understand the “mix of issues” but shouldn’t it comeback to….. do the group as a whole care about my core issues and if they are hostile to those issues??? Do we have any Gay Republicans on this thread that caould enlighten me??

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 28th, 2011
10:29 am

Good morning all. I suspect our homosexual friends have more reason than most to oppose government control of our lives. The few homosexuals I know seem to prefer freedom to rights.

Once did an economic research project, on employment discrimination and homosexuals. Never would have crossed my mind, but a homosexual friend urged me to explore whether homosexuals “benefit disproportionately” from homosexual relations. And indeed, the striking finding in the research was that almost all of the homosexuals interviewed identified specific instances where their homosexuality was a benefit in obtaining a job – sort of a “linked-in” with benefits I guess – and almost none identified an instance where they suffered an adverse job action due to sexual preference. Our ultimate finding – which admittedly had irreconcilable survey flaws – was that employment discrimination against homosexuals is a rare event. Seemingly, outside government, results matter more than “who you are.”

@@

January 28th, 2011
10:36 am

I don’t know how these things work, but how about everyone just show up with a name tag instead of a label.

Good on those who plan to attend.

jm

January 28th, 2011
10:37 am

“people with brains and who are democrats.”

I think I met one in 1995. I once saw the endangered snow leopard as well. Those suckers are hard to find.

Bosch

January 28th, 2011
10:37 am

“these are not people likely to be making out in the convention hall or waving rainbow flags.”

Because we all know that all gay people do that :roll:

Now….to read the rest.

thomas

January 28th, 2011
10:37 am

Patrick

January 28th, 2011
10:26 am
maybe because some gays and lesibians have decided to think for themselves and not be told who “likes them”. But instead who or what is better for their personal interest.

Actions sometimes speak louder than words.

http://www.red-alerts.com/comintern/goproud-the-democrats-health-care-bill-will-discriminate-against-gays/

“GOProud: The Democrats’ Health Care Bill Will Discriminate Against Gays”

let me guess though only because the republicans will make it do so.

ByteMe

January 28th, 2011
10:38 am

The FRC folks were worried that the GOProud folks were going to jump out of the closet at them yelling “Booga-booga-booga!!!”

Just wanted to give you that visual for Friday morning.

jm

January 28th, 2011
10:38 am

Ford’s earnings went over like a lead balloon….

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ig&q=NYSE:F

Bosch

January 28th, 2011
10:38 am

” might be infected by gay cooties”

Damn Jay, that was my last sip of coffee too.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 28th, 2011
10:39 am

“these are not people likely to be making out in the convention hall or waving rainbow flags.”

Then how are we supposed to tell them apart from the straight ones?

kayaker 71

January 28th, 2011
10:39 am

Where’s CT this morning?

jm

January 28th, 2011
10:41 am

Current Events…. Viva la Revolucion. In Egypt.

I don’t know if these folks are protesting for democracy or not, that doesn’t exactly seem to be the case… but if they are, I hope they win.

We should just send a memo saying, in effect, “Go Democracy! But if you elect islamists and engage in repression of your people and militant acts toward your neighbors, we will mess you up.”

Bosch

January 28th, 2011
10:41 am

” I know the lemming mentality is pretty much demanded on the left in order to be accepted ”

Yeah, Del, because as we’ve seen with issues such as health care reform, Democrats are all in agreement…. :roll:

Damn, man, do you THINK before you type?

ty webb

January 28th, 2011
10:43 am

Does penicillin cure “gay cooties” or does it simply mask the symptoms. And if one catches the “gay cooties” do they suddenly dress better?

jm

January 28th, 2011
10:44 am

Egypt.

“As in many other countries across the Middle East, Egyptians are frustrated over surging prices, unemployment and an authoritarian government that tolerates little dissent.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/27/us-egypt-protest-idUSTRE70O3UW20110127

In other words, they’re not fighting for self determination…. boooo

jm

January 28th, 2011
10:47 am

Of note for budding exporters. China loves da Chicken.

McDonald’s No Match for KFC in China as Colonel Rules Fast Food
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601010&sid=aYfUOqX9VUa0

ty webb

January 28th, 2011
10:47 am

and why do females who catch “gay cooties” suddenly have the urge to go out and buy a subaru?

HDB

January 28th, 2011
10:48 am

Bosch
January 28th, 2011
10:41 am

Bosch…what Del SHOULD’VE said is this:

” I know the lemming mentality is pretty much demanded on the RIGHT in order to be accepted: loyalty oaths, discrimination against gays…particularly marriage, Muslims, black people, and Hispanics. ”

There’s more proof of that, isn’t there??

Jefferson

January 28th, 2011
10:51 am

All one has to do is treat everybody the same and fair, black and yellow, red and white.

Peadawg

January 28th, 2011
10:52 am

““It just amazes me if you are Gay and Republican, maybe someone can explain it to me.””

Good question. I wouldn’t mind knowing how you can call yourself a Christian and be a liberal Democrat. Anyone?

T

January 28th, 2011
10:52 am

“The FRC folks were worried that the GOProud folks were going to jump out of the closet at them yelling “Booga-booga-booga!!!”

Now that was funny!!!!

smooveb

January 28th, 2011
10:52 am

“We’re being denied the same rights as heterosexuals. This is unconstitutional discrimination.”

There are two complaints here. First, homosexuals don’t have the same legal liberties heterosexuals have. Second, homosexual couples don’t have the same legal benefits as married couples.

The first charge is simply false. Any homosexual can marry in any state of the Union and receive every one of the privileges and benefits of state-sanctioned matrimony. He just cannot marry someone of the same sex. These are rights and restrictions all citizens share equally.

I realize that for homosexuals this is a profoundly unsatisfying response, but it is a legitimate one, nonetheless.

The second complaint is more substantial. It’s true that homosexual couples do not have the same legal benefits as married heterosexuals regarding taxation, family leave, health care, hospital visitation, inheritance, etc. However, no other non-marital relationships between individuals–non-gay brothers, a pair of spinsters, college roommates, fraternity brothers–share those benefits, either. Why should they?

If homosexual couples face “unequal protection” in this area, so does every other pair of unmarried citizens who have deep, loving commitments to each other. Why should gays get preferential treatment just because they are sexually involved?

The government gives special benefits to marriages and not to others for good reason. It’s not because they involve long-term, loving, committed relationships. Many others qualify there. It’s because they involve children. Inheritance rights flow naturally to progeny. Tax relief for families eases the financial burden children make on paychecks. Insurance policies reflect the unique relationship between a wage earner and his or her dependents (if Mom stays home to care for kids, she–and they–are still covered).

These circumstances, inherent to families, simply are not intrinsic to other relationships, as a rule, including homosexual ones. There is no obligation for government to give every human coupling the same entitlements simply to “stabilize” the relationship. The unique benefits of marriage fit its unique purpose. Marriage is not meant to be a shortcut to group insurance rates or tax relief. It’s meant to build families.

Bill Orvis White

January 28th, 2011
10:53 am

Everyone knows that I’m not politically correct, but I have to say my part here. It’s well known that the homosexual lifestyle is one of the many sins included in the Bible. With that written, we must move beyond that fact and accept these sinners with a whole heart. In the case of the GOProud folk, there about 75 percent there so those of us in the conservative movement have to find ways to work on that 25 percent. We failed for many years on that account because we have fallen into the incorrect mindset that the gay lifestyle is not a psychological problem wrought with scores of health concerns and unlimited debauchery. One needs to only look at 1970s New York City and 70s and 80s bathhouses in San Francisco.

OK, what do we in the conservative movement do? The answer is in the church. All churches need to have programs to help sexual sinners on all levels whether homosexual or heterosexual deviants.

I have no idea why you secular progressives on this board say that sexual deviancy and minorities are the same thing. What? WE THE PEOPLE in the Republican Party welcome minorities of all stripes. Look at Condy Rice, Alan Keyes and Herman Cain. I could go on and on.

It’s a fact that you liberals are misinformed beyond capacity. We do not hate homosexuals at all. We welcome them into our fold. It’s just their unhealthy lifestyle that we disagree with and it’s a fact that they can get help in the churches. We became such a spineless society that has given in to quacks like Dr. Spock, Dr. Sears and many others who spoon fed us progressive psychological rooted in emotion rather than cold hard logic. This why I praise Dr. Laura who isn’t afraid to tell the truth.

Amen,
Bill

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 28th, 2011
10:53 am

All one has to do is treat everybody the same and fair, black and yellow, red and white.
——–
Well that leaves out Boehner

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 28th, 2011
10:54 am

Well, the way gays can get in good with godly Republicans is . . . suprize!. . . stop being gay. I figure the gays that plan to go to this Republican shindig done it, so all the gays can do it. There ain’t nothing wrong with being gay, long as you stop being that way. I mean, all of us got to overcome a problem once in awhile.

Now that you got the solution to that problem, Bookman can go on with another topic. Have a good day everybody.

Disgusted

January 28th, 2011
10:56 am

This why I praise Dr. Laura who isn’t afraid to tell the truth.

Is this the same Dr. Laura whose nude, provocative pictures are plastered all over the Internet?

Gotcha!

ByteMe

January 28th, 2011
10:57 am

I wouldn’t mind knowing how you can call yourself a Christian and be a liberal Democrat

Peadawg doesn’t get that Jesus was a liberal.

stands for decibels

January 28th, 2011
10:58 am

these are not people likely to be making out in the convention hall or waving rainbow flags.

yebbut they’ve got Andy Breitbart on their advisory council, which is basically the same thing…

Harry Callahan

January 28th, 2011
10:59 am

We won’t make it to page 2 before someone blames this on Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, or the Bush tax cuts.

StJ

January 28th, 2011
11:01 am

“GOProud is committed to a traditional conservative agenda that emphasizes limited government, individual liberty, free markets and a confident foreign policy.”

Which is all fine and good, but part of the GOP is there because they’re socially conervative. That and other factors lead me to believe we are headed for a three-party system before too long.

Marietta

January 28th, 2011
11:01 am

The Democrat party relies on victims. They have dangled the carrots in front of the gay community (and many other groups) for years, and the gay community follows right along with only the promise of a better day. And nothing ever happens. Shoot, even Barney Frank was apprehensive about repealing DADT! Meanwhile, our country is going down the tubes with debt, taxes, unemployment, unchecked illegal immigration and more intrusive regulations. If you want to march off that cliff with your single-issue view, then enjoy the trip. I rather have a prosperous safe, secure country FIRST with less intrusion into my life and my bank account, then I’ll worry whether or not my relationship is validated by the government. I won’t be a single issue victim; my country is more important.

It is unfortunate that “conservative” implies “socially conservative” or “Christian conservative”. Being fiscally conservative or Constitutionally conservative is much more important. It is also unfortunate that “liberal” implies “Socialist”, because socialism is unAmerican.

kitty

January 28th, 2011
11:02 am

Bill Orvis, Dr Laura tells the truth but she doesn’t have any problem with gays. I listen to her often. BTW she isn’t christian….she is jewish…you aware of that?

Doggone/GA

January 28th, 2011
11:04 am

“The Democrat party”

There’s no such thing.

Matti

January 28th, 2011
11:05 am

stands for decibels @ 10:58,

Hahahaha! :-D

I hate to see these Nice Gay Men make fools of themselves this way, compromising themselves in a desperate feeble attempt to be liked by the people who reject them, thinking maybe if they just…try… a litte bit harder… and agree with the meanies, it will be enough; they’ll finally be accepted by those who scorned them. I understand this desire, but it never works, and they’re only creating more heartache for themselves. Gentlemen: Not everyone is going to like you. It’s OKAY. Let it go. **hugs!**

Joe Cool

January 28th, 2011
11:06 am

Im curious, what have the Rep. done for gay rights in the last 5 years? 10 years? And please list source.
tks

thomas

January 28th, 2011
11:07 am

Doggone/GA

January 28th, 2011
11:04 am

yes there is has been an accepted epithet used against members of the democratic party since around 1940.

It may not be the correct term, but there is such a thing.

Tommy Maddox

January 28th, 2011
11:08 am

ByteMe @ 10:57 – Jesus was a liberal?

I suppose the publisher left that abortion business out of the New International Version.

HDB

January 28th, 2011
11:08 am

smooveb
January 28th, 2011
10:52 am
“Any homosexual can marry in any state of the Union and receive every one of the privileges and benefits of state-sanctioned matrimony. He just cannot marry someone of the same sex. These are rights and restrictions all citizens share equally.”

That’s FALSE; there are 5 states and the District of Columbia where same-sex marriage IS legal. Since it is legal in those states, by the US CONSTITUTION, those marriages must be recognized in ALL 50 states!! The problem is that these committed couples are being DENIED their Constitutional protections due to the mindset of those who persist in discrimination!!

“It’s true that MARRIED homosexual couples do not have the same legal benefits as married heterosexuals regarding taxation, family leave, health care, hospital visitation, inheritance, etc. However, no other marital relationships between individuals are DENIED those benefits, either. Why shouldn’t they?”

There…fixed the question……

Joe Cool

January 28th, 2011
11:11 am

“It’s just their unhealthy lifestyle that we disagree with and it’s a fact that they can get help in the churches.”

WOW, Rep’s and their use of the word “fact”!
Secondly, them going to YOUR church will all of a sudden make them NOT gay?

Doggone/GA

January 28th, 2011
11:13 am

“t may not be the correct term, but there is such a thing”

Nope, there isn’t. I don’t refer to the Republicans as, for instance, the “Republic party” and I don’t read anything posted by anyone who says “Democrat party”

Jefferson

January 28th, 2011
11:14 am

Blaming Bush for the shape the US is in is caused by the fact that it is true. Look before and after — its like those meth teeth photos. To be fair to the ex President, his congresses went along with him.

jm

January 28th, 2011
11:14 am

HDB 11:08 – wow. I had no idea we had a constitutional law professor blogging away on this board….

Truly Amazing

January 28th, 2011
11:15 am

Ignorance and fear runs abound. Such a dangerous mix. Clearly religious conservatives are stirring this pot. Keep on repressing people and their freedoms and there will be another full scale civil rights movement.

Matti

January 28th, 2011
11:16 am

It’s funny how some people bitterly protest government intrustion into their lives, but have no problem with churches making the rules for everybody (via government), whether those people care about the church’s opinion or not. Okay, maybe it’s more sad than funny.

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 28th, 2011
11:16 am

Bosch

For your 10:41, all you needed to say was…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-OkHz2Lmy0&NR=1

kayaker 71

January 28th, 2011
11:18 am

When my pet goat and I talked it over, we decided waving a flag in a Republican convention wasn’t a very good idea. Somehow, we didn’t think that that would make him more accepted, especially by the Republicans. Since his retirement from the military, he has gotten a lot more aware of our future. He says that when he inherits my 401K, he wants to donate it to Sister Sarah’s campaign for President. I think that he might be straying a bit. He keeps watching Discovering Alaska over and over and I think that his obsession about our relationship is taking a back seat. Must be when Sister Sarah reveals her backside. That might make most anyone have second thoughts.

Bill Orvis White

January 28th, 2011
11:20 am

@kitty
Dr. Laura is against debauchery. For a great Hebrew perspective on the gays’ unhealthy lifestyle, look no further than columnist Don Feder’s catalog.

God Bless,
Bill

Dudley

January 28th, 2011
11:22 am

I will never understand why people can’t just live and let live, must be a self esteem issue, don’t want anyone to be happy in their own lives

Disgusted

January 28th, 2011
11:22 am

I don’t refer to the Republicans as, for instance, the “Republic party” and I don’t read anything posted by anyone who says “Democrat party”

Don’t worry about it, Doggone. “Democrat party” is a gift left by Newt & Co. They didn’t want to give Democrats credit for anything positive by using an adjective live Democratic, and their mindless followers are acting accordingly. It is quite literally a slur that’s self-perpetuating.

RAMBLE ON!!!

January 28th, 2011
11:22 am

“I couldn’t help but chuckle, though,”

That’s ironic Jay, I can’t help but chuckle every time you use the NYT’s as a resource (see Jayson Blair).

The National Enquire has more credibility (see John Edwards)

Deep Throat

January 28th, 2011
11:22 am

GOP bashing is nothing new to Jay.

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 28th, 2011
11:22 am

I see it didn’t take too long for this to fall down the rabbit hole.

What’s wrong with America is that we’re so damned focused on pointing out other people’s flaws, that you don’t recognize your own. Whether you believe in Jesus, Allah, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster (Bless his Noodly Appendages)… I don’t know of any single religion where you can die yourself and save someone else’s soul. There’s one guy who’s already done that, and unless you’re his return, you should worry more about your personal salvation than anyone else’s. I don’t think St. Peter or anyone else declares you guilty by association. I thought that in the afterlife, you’re judged on YOUR OWN deeds.

We’re all American. Whether we’re short or tall, black or white, male or female, straight or gay, or any other friggin’ label you want to put on yourself. People need to give up the judging lest ye are willing to be judged yourself. As far as I know, nobody here on Earth has presented themselves to be the “Ultimate Judge”, so let the sanctimonious BS go!! Please??

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 28th, 2011
11:23 am

UhOh Kayakker has been watching Nailin Palin again (with his pet goat) LOL

Dudley

January 28th, 2011
11:23 am

Dr Laura, the adulteress with the neckid pics taken by a man not her husband? That’s a great moral leader ther bo

straight not narrow

January 28th, 2011
11:23 am

Bill Orvis White, don’t be an ignorant boob. Genetics means there is no “gay lifestyle”, it’s not learned behavior. Either you’re gay or you ain’t, end of story.

Robert

January 28th, 2011
11:23 am

The internet photo’s of Dr. Laura Schelessinger spread eagle is enough to make most conservative men bat for the other team. Nasty, nasty, nasty. She should be ashamed of herself.

Doggone/GA

January 28th, 2011
11:23 am

“It is quite literally a slur that’s self-perpetuating”

And actually…it’s quite useful. I know that when someone starts off using that term that they have nothing of value to say. So I don’t have to waste my time reading any further.

stands for decibels

January 28th, 2011
11:24 am

Ignorance and fear runs abound. Such a dangerous mix.

see also this:

http://www.livescience.com/culture/biology-teachers-avoid-evolution-stance-with-students-110127.html

(more of a topic for downstairs, but what the heck, it’s all related, really.)

HDB

January 28th, 2011
11:24 am

Marietta
January 28th, 2011
11:01 am

“I’ll worry whether or not my relationship is validated by the government. I won’t be a single issue victim; my country is more important.”

That singular attitude is what made segregation disappear; at points, a singular attitude MADE the nation better AND freer!! If ONE segment of the nation is being DENIED its rights….how important can that country be in the grander scheme of things!! Note what happens when ONE particular issue is corrected or addressed; ALL things are made better in its own way!!

jm

January 28th, 2011
11:24 am

I think Obama and Biden just threw “freedom” under the bus…..

Biden: Mubarak Should Not Step Down
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/28/biden-mubarak-step/

retired early

January 28th, 2011
11:24 am

Bill White

You just can’t help yourself…can you. Your post could almost be a “redneck Convert”, “Tongue in cheek”…but no….I think you believe what you say. Oh well…
It’s a free country…

ByteMe

January 28th, 2011
11:24 am

I suppose the publisher left that abortion business out of the New International Version.

Or perhaps Jesus, the one who hung out with prostitutes and the dregs of society, had nothing to say on the topic.

jm

January 28th, 2011
11:25 am

What a bunch of BS.

“I would not refer to him as a dictator,” Biden said on PBS’ NewsHour.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/28/biden-mubarak-step/#ixzz1CLdNmxao

Judge Wapner

January 28th, 2011
11:25 am

Who’s not the ultimate judge?

HDB

January 28th, 2011
11:26 am

jm

January 28th, 2011
11:14 am
“HDB 11:08 – wow. I had no idea we had a constitutional law professor blogging away on this board….”

Not quite….have studied law…..but I did stay at a Holiday Inn………

Peadawg

January 28th, 2011
11:27 am

“Genetics means there is no “gay lifestyle”, it’s not learned behavior. Either you’re gay or you ain’t, end of story.”

You got proof that there’s a “gay gene”? B/c I believe they’re still looking for it.

jm

January 28th, 2011
11:27 am

Mubarak is collecting on some of the “loans” he’s made…. peace with Israel, etc., now time to pay me back. Back me up, even though I’m a dictator…. realpolitik yuck

ByteMe

January 28th, 2011
11:27 am

HDB: What he was trying to say was “Don’t confuse how I feel with facts!”

ty webb

January 28th, 2011
11:28 am

“Who’s not the ultimate judge?”

Simon Cowell…he left american idol.

Native Atlantan

January 28th, 2011
11:28 am

@Peadog….and my paycheck went up $200….thanks Obama…

Bevis

January 28th, 2011
11:28 am

If you are a closet dwelling, self hating gay person……..you just might be a Republican.

ByteMe

January 28th, 2011
11:29 am

You got proof that there’s a “gay gene”?

You think it’s just one, huh? How limiting to think that way.

JohnnyReb

January 28th, 2011
11:29 am

CPAC made a mistake. There is enough disagreement between Conservative elites and Tea Party supporters without forcing a gay rights issue. The result of CPAC’s stupidity is evident in that they are separating Conservative supporters and given the Left an issue on which to howl. If I was involved with CPAC, I would be looking for the Democratic plant.

GodisanAtheist

January 28th, 2011
11:29 am

Jesus was gay, and black and an alcoholic.

Real American

January 28th, 2011
11:29 am

Thank you President Obama, eliminating dont ask dont tell, George W wouldnot even adress the issue:
Dick hypocrite Chaney has a gay daughter but was silent, President Obama had the guts to stand by his promise in the campaign.
Greatest President of our life time.

Peadawg

January 28th, 2011
11:30 am

“You think it’s just one, huh?”

Nope. I don’t think there’s any at all. Until science proves otherwise…which I doubt they ever will.

ByteMe

January 28th, 2011
11:30 am

There is enough disagreement between Conservative elites and Tea Party supporters without forcing a gay rights issue.

You mean like the issue was forced on the electorate to help the Republicans in 2002 and 2004?