Baptist leader withdraws in face of anti-Muslim bigotry

From the Associated Press:

“NASHVILLE — A leader of the Southern Baptist Convention has withdrawn from a coalition that supports the rights of Muslims to build mosques in their communities.

Richard Land, the head of the SBC’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, said he heard from many Southern Baptists who felt the work of the Interfaith Coalition on Mosques crossed the line from defending religious freedom to promoting Islam.

“I don’t agree with that perception but it’s widespread and I have to respect it,” he told The Associated Press.

The Coalition was formed last year as an initiative of the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish group that fights discrimination. Its first action was to file a friend of the court brief opposing a lawsuit that sought to stop a planned mosque in Murfreesboro, about 30 miles southeast of Nashville.”

In his resignation letter to the ADL, Land wrote that “while many Southern Baptists share my deep commitment to religious freedom and the right of Muslims to have places of worship, they also feel that a Southern Baptist denominational leader filing suit to allow individual mosques to be built is ‘a bridge too far.’’

In other words, defending the theoretical right to religious liberty is fine. But defending it in actual practice is “a bridge too far.” The sad part is, Land knows better. In his heart and in his head, he clearly knows better, and in the Baptist tradition the individual conscience is given great authority. But rather than defend what he knows to be right, Land has chosen to surrender and by doing so legitimizes religious bigotry.

Here’s one example of the “widespread perception” that drove Land out of the coalition. The author is Buster Wilson of the American Family Association, who finds great fault with Land for daring to join “an initiative that is fighting FOR the rights of Muslims to build mosques in America”:

“… along with joining this group who has the sole purpose of making the way clear for Muslims to advance their religion in America with the building of mosques without harassment, he has also taken a stance in FAVOR OF the building of the larger mosque by the Muslim community in Murphreesboro, TN…. Yes, we too uphold the religious freedoms for all Americans. BUT, we do not JOIN up with an organization to encourage the building of Mosques, Free Thinker’s Societies, Mormon Temples, etc, etc, etc. just because they had that RIGHT as Americans. … I will not get involved in helping make the way more readily open for them to advance the cause of their false gospels.

“And that’s the line that (I) feel Richard Land has crossed. He has joined a group is now filing court briefs to HELP Muslims get mosques built in this country. Fight for their RIGHT, but don’t help them advance a “gospel” that is no gospel at all and will send people to hell.”

The Baptists have a long, proud tradition of defending the boundary between church and state. The famous letter in which Thomas Jefferson described “a wall of separation between Church & State” was written to a group of Baptists in Connecticut fearful that their religious freedom might be compromised by that state’s majority Congregationalist church. To this day, Georgia’s state constitution contains a provision barring the diversion of government funds to religious groups, a legacy that can be traced back to 18th century Baptists insistent on drawing a stark line between church and state.

It is only in the past 30 or 40 years, as Southern Baptists have found themselves in a position of political power rather than weakness, that they have taken such a 180-degree turn from the traditions of their creed. Even Billy Graham, a man I’ve long admired for honestly trying to live the faith that he preached, recently acknowledged that the seductive appeal of power had at times led him astray.

“I also would have steered clear of politics,” the 92-year-old Graham said in an interview with Christianity Today. “I’m grateful for the opportunities God gave me to minister to people in high places; people in power have spiritual and personal needs like everyone else, and often they have no one to talk to. But looking back I know I sometimes crossed the line, and I wouldn’t do that now.”

These days, even acknowledging the line exists is refreshingly old school.

– Jay Bookman

281 comments Add your comment

kitty

January 26th, 2011
1:09 pm

Yes, we too uphold the religious freedoms for all Americans. BUT, we do not JOIN up with an organization to encourage the building of Mosques,

above from the article….

If that isn’t saying people this Wilson agrees with should have freedom of religion….absolutely unbelievable.

kitty

January 26th, 2011
1:10 pm

that is ONLY people this Wilson agrees with…

FIRST :)

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 26th, 2011
1:12 pm

Four words….

Oh
My
Freaking
God….

Bob

January 26th, 2011
1:14 pm

What a back stabber, and after all these years of muslims defending Christians.

Mick

January 26th, 2011
1:16 pm

Jay, in all honesty I’d have to admit that I’m for religious rights and freedoms but I wouldn’t like to have a mosque in my neighborhood. I also would prefer that followers of islam choose another country or stay where they are comfortable practicing a religion that is so controlling of their lives.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:20 pm

Why wouldn’t you want a mosque, Mick?

(I appreciate the honesty, BTW).

@@

January 26th, 2011
1:21 pm

Late in responding to SoCo’s comment regarding public service employees. Someone (maybe not SoCo) asked where USAToday’s figures came from. Answer? The Bureau of Labor Statistics (the article said as much) and the Congressional Research Service. If you question the figures, take it up with them.

As to the topic? My church contributes generously to causes that support African Americans. Since many African Americans have aligned themselves with Islam, could be I’m indirectly supporting Islam. No problem with Americans who want to convert.

Mosques? As long as their imams aren’t sent over from Saudi Arabia with Wahabbist edicts in tow. If that’s the case, then there’s reason to pause.

Keep up the good fight!

January 26th, 2011
1:23 pm

So we can talk about the great Constitution and the rights, but when it comes time to protect those rights, well not so much. Christianity again goes silent.

Great article Jay.

ty webb

January 26th, 2011
1:23 pm

Is this proposed mosque going to have a Stoning complex? How about a beheading hall?

Lil' Barry Bailout

January 26th, 2011
1:24 pm

Jay’s got a little hardon going lately for this subject of alleged anti-Muslim bigotry.

I guess CT got first pick and took “racism”.

jm

January 26th, 2011
1:27 pm

Jay, by the way. To give credit where due and for what its worth, good job providing a critique of someone from your own end of the political spectrum (re Obama and SS). Need more of that around the world.

Mick

January 26th, 2011
1:27 pm

Jay, I pride myself on being open minded but I was in the UK when the tube and a bus were bombed. I was also staying at a hotel in a predominantly muslim area. I felt uncomfortable and suspicious, I don’t want that feeling near my home. Before people of the islamic faith can move to denmark, they show them a film about their open culture. If they are bothered by what they see, then they are told that denmark may not be for them..

Keep up the good fight!

January 26th, 2011
1:28 pm

ty — does your church have an inquisition hall? What sect is scheduled for killing on Friday the 13th?

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2011
1:28 pm

Keep Up – the only “rights” some want to protect is the “Right To Bear Arms”. All others fall waaayyy in the back of the line. I bet if the Gun Lobby wanted to build a “Guns Are Fun!!” Funland, they wouldn’t have had as much problems as an American citizen who is muslim is having trying to build a place for him to worship.

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
1:28 pm

Jay – “Why wouldn’t you want a mosque, Mick?”

I cannot speak for Mick, but I know from personal experience that a mosque brings many, many people to an area that they wouldn’t otherwise be. We are seeing neighborhoods being taken over by those that attend the mosque several times a day. Due to cultural differences (I guess) those neighborhoods are in decline; the yards are not taken care of, cars (nice cars) are parked in the stree/drive way instead of the garage, neighbors aren’t as friendly as they once were, etc.

jm

January 26th, 2011
1:29 pm

Back on topic – Baptists…. what does one expect…. sad

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:31 pm

Where would that be, Nice Guy?

@@

January 26th, 2011
1:31 pm

And jay, you never responded to the findings I posted from Freedom Works last night. You wanted only to paint a Republican as bigoted. 80 proof. Drink up.

jm

January 26th, 2011
1:32 pm

“Why wouldn’t you want a mosque, Mick?”

I wouldn’t want one next door. Too much risk that a molotov cocktail throwing Baptist decides to blow it up and me and my house end up as collateral damage.

Not to mention my neighbor’s properties are zoned residential.

Aside from that, mosque’s are protected in the constitution. On the odds that they were preaching hate and violence, I’d hope the FBI had a few guys attending services there…..

Otherwise, Allah away all day.

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2011
1:33 pm

I’m going to take your comment Mick and change it around a bit. Let’s take your words and zap them back to 1920 America…..

Jay, I pride myself on being open minded but I was in the UK South when the tube and a bus were bombed lynching happened. I was also staying at a hotel in a predominantly muslim colored area. I felt uncomfortable and suspicious, I don’t want that feeling near my home. Before people of the islamic faith black complexion can move to denmark the south, they show them a film about their open culture. If they are bothered by what they see, then they are told that denmark the south may not be for them..

AmVet

January 26th, 2011
1:33 pm

The Muslims have their Wahhabi types. And we have our evangelicals.

It all boils down to “false gospels” and jihads.

And as long as these Abrahamic cousins and zealots have the power, they will kill in his name and heaven knows what else.

The biggest difference is that we have finally emasculated our centuries long, murderous puritanical “reformists”, while they have yet to do so…

Kamchak

January 26th, 2011
1:33 pm

SHARIA LAW CREEP!

Just thought I’d get that out of the way early.

Mick

January 26th, 2011
1:35 pm

jm@1:32

On that front, you’re a better man than I.

@@

January 26th, 2011
1:35 pm

AmVet:

YOU haven’t emasculated squat. Christians have seen the light.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:35 pm

@@, that’s because I thought it was silly to try to compare criticism of CAIR to outright bigotry.

Keep up the good fight!

January 26th, 2011
1:36 pm

Mick, what you would do if the Westboro Baptist Church were to come to your community? Would you tell them to move to another country?

As much as I hate the message so put out (God Hates…), Freedom of Religion means just that. In any community. Good or bad.

As for claims that neighborhoods are in decline (Fear I tell YOU!) and neighbors are not as nice, perhaps that is a reflection of the hate being directed at them. Of course the “personal experience” is right up there with “I saw this hated ___ group, doing this ___.”

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
1:36 pm

“Where would that be, Nice Guy?”

Let’s call it Alpharetta.

jm

January 26th, 2011
1:37 pm

Mick – I’d be a tid bit inclined to attend services myself, just to see what was going on. Although I guess I wouldn’t understand a darn thing. Although body language says a lot… I’m sure infidel translates pretty easily. Might be inclined to take my wife too. Wonder how that would go over.

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2011
1:37 pm

That should be – as many problems as an American citizen, who is muslim, is having trying to build a place to worship.

@@

January 26th, 2011
1:37 pm

jay, I’ve come to realize that you think anything that sheds light on your bigotry is silly.

Have a nice day.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:37 pm

And to Lil Barry, all I’m doing here is defending the US Constitution.

Don’t you LIKE the Constitution, Lil Barry?

AmVet

January 26th, 2011
1:37 pm

Speaking of living next door to a house of worship, I did. For a very brief period of time as a boy in Kansas.

And let me tell you, on a hot summer’s day with the windows open, one can easily confirm that those Baptists couldn’t carry a tune in a bucket! (grin)

Mick

January 26th, 2011
1:37 pm

debbie

Well, nice job of twisting what I said.

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
1:38 pm

Debbie at 1:33pm.

Good effort, but not even close in comparison.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:38 pm

I will, @@. I almost always do. But thanks for the thought nonetheless.

jm

January 26th, 2011
1:39 pm

Jay 1:37 – I love the constitution. Let them worship at will. And let any bad guys get picked up by the FBI.

ty webb

January 26th, 2011
1:41 pm

keep up…
I don’t attend church. I find it moronically ironic that you hold the SBC’s actions as indicative of all of “Christianity”, and yet you take offense at me holding the mosque in TN to the same standards in relation to the entire “peaceful” religion of Islam.

Mick

January 26th, 2011
1:42 pm

Jay – I can almost guarantee you that even the most vocal supporters of islam hit a brick wall if the mosque were to be built in their back yard. How about you?

Keep up the good fight!

January 26th, 2011
1:43 pm

Nice Guy….call it Alpharetta if you want but frankly your Alpharetta experience differs from mine in Alpharetta including the Islamic center on Rucker Rd. The neighborhoods surrounding it may be aging but they are generally well-kept and not declining. Even some new construction in the area.

Perhaps you are bearing false witness?

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
1:43 pm

“what you would do if the Westboro Baptist Church were to come to your community?”

I wouldn’t be happy, that’s for sure. And for the record, Keep Up, protesting events is a lot different than suicide bombings or honor killings.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:44 pm

Ty, who has argued that the SBC move is indicative of all Christianity?

I’d really like to know.

Stone

January 26th, 2011
1:44 pm

…….My church contributes generously to causes that support African Americans. @@…I am curious as to why African Americans would need such generous support from you church.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2011
1:45 pm

Richard Land, the head of the SBC’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, said he heard from many Southern Baptists who felt the work of the Interfaith Coalition on Mosques crossed the line from defending religious freedom to promoting Islam.

“I don’t agree with that perception but it’s widespread and I have to respect it,” he told The Associated Press.

So sad. Presumably Mr. Land’s bible includes the Gospel of Luke, specifically 10:25-37.

And Mr. Land probably understands that Jesus could easily substitute “Muslim” for “Samaritan” if He were here in person to re-tell the tale.

/drive-by

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
1:45 pm

“Perhaps you are bearing false witness?”

Not at all.

“The neighborhoods surrounding it may be aging but they are generally well-kept and not declining.”

The keyword is “generally.”

Paul

January 26th, 2011
1:46 pm

Nearly every time I go past some private school with the name “Christian Prep Academy” or a bookstore with the name “Christian Bookstore” I wonder what the reaction would be if people read “Muslim Prep Academy” or “Muslim Bookstore.” I take that back… I know what the reaction would be.

“Yes, we too uphold the religious freedoms for all Americans. BUT, we do not JOIN up with an organization to encourage the building of Mosques, Free Thinker’s Societies, Mormon Temples, etc, etc, etc. just because they had that RIGHT as Americans. … I will not get involved in helping make the way more readily open for them to advance the cause of their false gospels. ”

Muslims and Thinkers and Mormons, oh my…. The mistake this guy is making, I think, is that he thinks it’s his duty to prevent the spread of what he considers ‘false gospels’ and to do it under government intervention or by utilizing the political process. What he misses is what the Constitution guarantees about the freedom of religion. By so actively opposing others, he’s really opposing constitutional protections for all.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:46 pm

And Mick, mosque, church, synagogue, etc., it honestly wouldn’t make a difference.

Depending on the size, any such facility could prove to be a pain, as could a sufficiently large, traffic and noise-generating commercial development. But there’s absolutely nothing about a mosque that would make me think of it any differently.

ty webb

January 26th, 2011
1:47 pm

Jay,
“keep up the good fight”’s comment at 1:23. That’s who my comment was directed at.

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
1:48 pm

“I take that back… I know what the reaction would be”

And you should know what the reaction would be, Paul. But, please, let’s be honest, the reaction would not be completley unfounded.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:48 pm

Nice Guy, when was the last suicide bombing in this country?

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
1:49 pm

“Nice Guy, when was the last suicide bombing in this country?”

It matters not, Jay.

Please remove your blinders.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:51 pm

It matters not?

Well, it sure seemed to matter a few minutes ago, when you were suggesting that living next to a mosque might make you a victim of suicide bombings. It sure mattered THEN!

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 26th, 2011
1:51 pm

The kerfuffle reminds me of the good old days, when government did not interfere with our lives and churches did.

AmVet

January 26th, 2011
1:52 pm

@@, you make it personal, but don’t worry. We don’t do female circumcisions in this country. (smirk, snort and schnirt)

And for gawdssakes, crack a history book once in a blue moon and edumacate yourself about past and ongoing Christian-based hatred and extremism in this country.

Pay particular attention to the Army of God, Christian Patriots, the Lambs of Christ, the Concerned Christians, Scott Roeder, Fred Phelps and of course that conveniently…..ahem, forgotten Christian gang, the Ku Klux Klan.

Or don’t.

But there are plenty of us who are not going to allow fanatics and zealots, of ANY deity, to turn this country back into a killing ground…

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:52 pm

Thanks Ty, got it.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2011
1:54 pm

Southern Baptist’s bigoted?! I think may faint from the shock…goodness, someone get me an iced tea and cool cloth.

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
1:54 pm

“might make you a victim of suicide bombings”

Never said that. I was simply contrasting what the Westboro Church and Islam (not all of Islam, to be clear) was about. If anything, I specifically mentioned my fear of declining neighborhoods.

Mick

January 26th, 2011
1:54 pm

ragnar@1:51

That’s funny….

@@

January 26th, 2011
1:55 pm

jay:

I almost always do.

As do I jay….as do I. Even on those day when your sole intent is to inflame with the same vitriol that you claim to be above. Doesn’t matter whether your accusations are true, just that the hits keep on coming.

I’ve encountered countless people who think you’re a pr*ck. Based on what I’ve seen, I tend to agree.

Stone:

It lies within our Social Creed. 20% of the membership within United Methodism are African Americans. Their brothers and sisters are our brothers and sisters. We are one in the same family.

We contribute to other ethnic groups as well. Where there’s a need there’s a will within The United Methodist Church.

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
1:56 pm

“Pay particular attention to the Army of God, Christian Patriots, the Lambs of Christ, the Concerned Christians, Scott Roeder, Fred Phelps and of course that conveniently…..ahem, forgotten Christian gang, the Ku Klux Klan”

That’s right @@ (shaking finger), you go do your research. And then once you’ve done it, just remember that all of those groups combined do not pose a threat equal to that of Islam.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
1:57 pm

You talk about me with countless people, @@?

Gee, you really need better things to talk about.

@@

January 26th, 2011
1:57 pm

AmVet:

Nothing you may believe or want to believe pertains to my person.

Get over your bad self.

jm

January 26th, 2011
1:57 pm

off topic – there goes any likely energy portfolio changes….

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/48186.html

SOTU lipservice…. wonder if we’ll still be importing $600 Billion in oil every year a decade from now. Probably more….

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2011
1:58 pm

Can Southern Baptist’s go to Disney World yet, or have they put it out of business?

@@

January 26th, 2011
1:59 pm

jay:

I talk about your blog. I refer to it as jay bookman’s blog. One individual even came back with “Don’t you mean jay bookman’s fog?”

Found that one rather amusing.

I’m off to the market.

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:01 pm

Well, Republicans sure know how to make executive decisions and clean house when necessary.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/davidcatanese/0111/Priebus_fires_RNC_political_staffers_.html

Nice Guy

January 26th, 2011
2:01 pm

“Don’t you mean jay bookman’s fog?”

Haven’t heard that one. Amusing. Kind of like Bark Madley, I mean Mark Bradley.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2011
2:02 pm

Can Southern Baptists drink Pepsi products yet, or have they put them out of business?

Lil' Barry Bailout

January 26th, 2011
2:02 pm

Jay’s “defending the Constitution”?

Where in the Constitution are Baptist leaders required to ignore their flock and to associate with leaders of other religious groups?

Nice try though, Jay.

ty webb

January 26th, 2011
2:02 pm

Jay
It seems you’ve used the word “bigotry” a lot recently in blogs relating to Islam. Do you know if openly gay men and women will be allowed to worship in the proposed mosque? Thanks in advance.

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:03 pm

jewcowboy – all smiles here.

They BOTH suck

January 26th, 2011
2:04 pm

@jewcowboy

Not sure if they can go to Disney World yet, but I still think that they believe the TelliTubbies are trying to indoctrinate kids into being gay……….

hahahahah

Remember that one?

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:04 pm

ty webb 2:02 – now that’s funny….

AmVet

January 26th, 2011
2:05 pm

@@, again, no worries.

But perhaps you could actually learn the definition of the word vitriol. (Hint, there is NONE in Jay’s 1:02.)

But that little fact will sail over your head like an F-22 screaming out of Dobbins…

(The dictionary is your friend.)

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 26th, 2011
2:06 pm

Well, I don’t care much for Towelheads but they can build a mosque in somebody else’s neighborhood, far as I’m concerned.

Matter of fact, I don’t like big churches in general. The reason is because the people that go to them will kill you dead as 4 o’clock in the morning. I don’t mind being out on the road with drunks and potheads late night and early morning. But you won’t catch me out on the roads on late Sunday morning or noon. The people that come out of those big places are bored and hungry. They’ll smash you flatter than a possum if you hold them up from getting to their dinner. Speed limits and right of ways mean nothing to them. They don’t listen too close when their preacher tells them about loving other people, etc.

That’s just my two cents worth. All I got to say is if the mosques are as big as some of those mega-churches, they’re as deadly to a neighborhood as a crankhead with a loaded pistol.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

Normal

January 26th, 2011
2:08 pm

Late to this dance, but SoCo said it best at 1:12.

This is the trouble with religions. It is quite natural to believe in a higher power and if you want to believe in any “Sons of God”, that’s ok too, but it should be a natural “one on one” thing between you and your higher power. The trouble is “religions” are man made and run by men and they screw it up. This “my God is better’n your God” thing is so wrong on so many levels and deep inside y’all know it.
The Creator made us all different for a reason. To learn and understand tolerance, understanding, and acceptance for all. Organized religion teaches none of those.

A Penance for your Thoughts

January 26th, 2011
2:08 pm

I think what actually happened here is that folks in these southern states where these Mosques are proposed to be built found out that they will not actually benefit economically since, first of all, most folks that go to these Mosques don’t eat pork rinds or BBQ of the most notable southern variety. And on top of that, these folks building these Mosques and making the charitable contributions and such would get the same property tax benefits and tax deductions as all the other religions. And then there’s the liquor. One group is all “Do as I say not as I do,” while the other group is, “Do as I say and as I do,” (and we all know which is which, right Redneck) and that will ultimately lead to some nasty battles especially once there’s enough of those people settled here to get themselves elected to public offices. It’s just downhill from there.

AmVet

January 26th, 2011
2:09 pm

Bark Madley! Love that.

This town’s talking sports heads has always been a real mixed bag.

And we have some of the worst of the worst!

The great news was that the awful John Sterling left town.

The tragic news? He became the voice of the New York Yankees! Between him and George, I always laughed at how we NYY fans were in some way, on some level of Dante’s circles…

Stone

January 26th, 2011
2:10 pm

@@……We contribute to other ethnic groups as well. Where there’s a need there’s a will within The United Methodist Church.

No problem it’s just that you were so quick to point out that your church contributes to African Americans as if they were a group as a whole in need.

Normal

January 26th, 2011
2:10 pm

It lies within our Social Creed. 20% of the membership within United Methodism are African Americans. Their brothers and sisters are our brothers and sisters. We are one in the same family.

I wonder if they ever come to supper…

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:11 pm

The whole continent of Africa appears to be blowing up. Simultaneously.

Tunisia, Egypt, Sudan, Gabon. Who’s next?

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:13 pm

Obama: Mubarak! Tear down these pyramids!

Wait. Wrong teleprompter.

Jay

January 26th, 2011
2:13 pm

In other words, Amvet, there is a God?

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:14 pm

“Starve the beast” does not work when the beast has access to the credit card. I think the credit card will be maxed out shortly.

Lord Help Us

January 26th, 2011
2:16 pm

‘“Starve the beast” does not work when the beast has access to the credit card.’

Leave my wife out of this…

Lord Help Us

January 26th, 2011
2:18 pm

Whatever happened to Russ Minshew (sp?)…

They BOTH suck

January 26th, 2011
2:18 pm

@ jm

Nice jab about the teleprompter……… You do know conservative icon Ronald Reagan perfected it, right?

BADA BING

January 26th, 2011
2:18 pm

I would not want a church or mosque next to me. The same way I would not want a Micky Ds, or a muffler shop, or any business. Privacy is a concern, as is extra traffic, noise, litter, etc.That is what zoning laws are for.

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:18 pm

Jay – when will the Lebanese and Israelis start lobbing shells at each other again?
A – February
B- March
C – April
D – May
E – June
?

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:19 pm

BOTH – one would assume so, since he had Alzheimers….

BADA BING

January 26th, 2011
2:19 pm

jm…..All of the above.

They BOTH suck

January 26th, 2011
2:24 pm

JM- Soon on the bombings I think………. Maybe few months would be my guess

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:24 pm

Pedestrian hit on I-285
http://www.ajc.com/news/clayton/pedestrian-struck-by-vehicle-816172.html

I don’t think someone walking across 285 is a pedestrian. Jay walker at minimum. Someone committing suicide, more likely.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2011
2:24 pm

They BOTH suck,

“Remember that one?”

Oh yes..and here are few more gems:

“Grown men should not be having sex with prostitutes unless they are married to them.”

“Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan in America.”

“I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won’t have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!”

And the most pertinent…

“You’ve got to kill the terrorists before the killing stops. And I’m for the president to chase them all over the world. If it takes 10 years, blow them all away in the name of the Lord.”

Del

January 26th, 2011
2:26 pm

Land was going too far. I think his intentions were good but as a leader in the SBC getting involved legally to assist in supporting a specific mosque building effort was going over the line. I read Wilson’s comment and he was correct in criticizing Richard Land as Land was correct in resigning from the ADL. Wilson, is also entitled to his opinion as to the make up of radical Islam, however, neither he nor anyone really knows the percentage of peaceful Muslims to those who would provide either tacit or active support to radical elements. The worldwide Muslim community and the growing Muslim community here in the United States should understand the concerns along with the lack of trust toward them by non-Muslims. They could and should be doing far more in condemning the jihadists then they have been both here and abroad.

Jefferson

January 26th, 2011
2:27 pm

These replies show who are real Americans and who are posers.

Doggone/GA

January 26th, 2011
2:27 pm

“just remember that all of those groups combined do not pose a threat equal to that of Islam”

Quite right, they are a GREATER risk that that of Islam. Islam is not, and never was, our “enemy” – EXTREMISTS OF ANY KIND are.

AmVet

January 26th, 2011
2:28 pm

Oh nice, JB.

Pick on the sole Yankee fan in these parts!

Just wait til my Cornhuskers get the chance to get stomped by the Nittany Lions next year and for years to come! (Then I’m really gonna want a piece of you!)

But the bigger news for Nittany Nation was the establishment of an annual cross-division rivalry game for each Big Ten team. Penn State drew Nebraska, creating a matchup of two of the most iconic names in college football.

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:28 pm

The US is about to become a third rate power, having already become a third rate country in many respects.

jm

January 26th, 2011
2:30 pm

Jay, given the scale of what’s going on, you may want to comment on the Africa melee.

carlosgvv

January 26th, 2011
2:30 pm

Looking at Muslim practices in other countries, like not allowing any other religions, not letting women drive cars, stoning women, honor killings, etc. shows this reilgion is still in the middle ages. So, no, based on that, I don’t want a religion with the mentality of the Spanish Inquisition in my neighborhood either.