In Congress, anti-Muslim bigotry gaining a strong foothold

According to U.S. Rep. Peter King, R-NY, more than 80 percent of the mosques in this country are headed by imams who espouse radical Islamic jihad.

Eighty percent. King has offered that estimate in the past, and did so again this week in a radio interview:

King did not claim to have a list of those subversive enemies of American freedom in his suit pocket, as Sen. Joe McCarthy did 60 years ago. But like McCarthy, King does have the chairmanship of a prominent congressional committee, in his case the House Homeland Security Committee. And next month, King’s committee is scheduled to hold public hearings into the alleged disloyalty of the Muslim-American community.

That ought to go so very well, don’t you think?

And then we’ve got U.S. Rep. Allen West, a newly elected Republican from Florida. In a recent interview with a cable TV program called “The Shalom Show,” West was asked a rather odd question about U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, a Minnesota Democrat and a Muslim, and he responded with an equally odd answer (The interchange begins at 1:47 in the video below):

Interviewer Richard Peritz: “Since you’re with a new crowd, people you haven’t really met before and will be very closely associated with in the future, including Keith Ellison, who supports Islam. How will you manage that, if I may ask? Because it’s not really easy to be that … polite, often, with individuals one totally disagrees with, which I believe may be the case.”

Rep. West: “I think it’s most important that I stand upon the principles that people elected me to go to Washington DC and represent them on Capitol Hill. So that when you run into someone that is counter or someone that really does represent the antithesis of the principles upon which this country was established, you got to be able to defeat them intellectually and in debate and discourse.”

It really is astounding. Is it possible to be polite to a Muslim-American? Does Ellison, by the mere fact of being a Muslim, “represent the antithesis of the principles upon which this country was established?”

Or is that all just vile, ugly bigotry spouted by men wearing nice suits?

– Jay Bookman

588 comments Add your comment

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2011
2:15 pm

Is this King fella related to Scout.

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 25th, 2011
2:17 pm

LOL @ TaxPayer!!!!!!!!

Del

January 25th, 2011
2:17 pm

Of course there’s a mistrust of the Muslim community. Why shouldn’t there be? I don’t know the accuracy of Peter King’s estimate but I do know that nobody has an accurate estimate as to the percentage of Muslims who disavow the acts of terror committed in the name of Islam.

Granny Godzilla

January 25th, 2011
2:17 pm

I would say that it is Allen West is “the antithesis of the principles upon which this country was established” AND that he appears be a
vile, ugly bigot wearing a nice suits.

And after checking the fabric I may have to change that to “cheap” suits.

jm

January 25th, 2011
2:22 pm

Asymmetrical information Jay.

I don’t know if he’s fear mongering or not. But I highly suspect he has information about said Mosques that you and I don’t have, courtesy of Homeland Security…

Road Scholar

January 25th, 2011
2:24 pm

Del: Is that the same distrust shown to jews and catholics in the south in the past? How about Italians,Hispanics, etc.? Allright conserves, I know I’ll hear otherwise.

jm

January 25th, 2011
2:25 pm

Jay, BTW, I read the Peritz question as off base. This seems out of context. Does he disagree with the guy solely because he’s muslim? I doubt it. Because he’s a Dem? Maybe. Who knows.

As someone said on the other page, I think this is a bit of tempest in JB’s teapot….. bee in the bonnet, whatever. Hard to assess what’s going on with the Peritz West interview

carlosgvv

January 25th, 2011
2:26 pm

Muslim extremists in this country and other countries have shown they will stop at nothing to kill and maim as many people as possible. The Muslim community worldwide, for the most part, has been extremely reluctant to comdemn these actions. This suggests the ugly possibility they quietly approve of this violence. We have to protect ourselves and being nice and politically correct doesn’t help much if you wind up dead. You have to see things as they really are and not as you might want them to be.

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 25th, 2011
2:26 pm

Del

I understand where you’re coming from. However, there’s been mistrust in this country as long as we’ve been here. The only thing that changes are the two groups involved.

*Did the Native Americans have an accurate estimate of those who disavowed acts of terror committed against them?

*Did the Western Settlers have an accurate estimate of the Natives who committed acts agains them?

*Did the Northerners have an accurate estimate of the Southerners who were against Seccession in 1861?

*Did Blacks have an accurate estimate of the number of people who committed acts of terror against them from 1865-1965?

There’s always going to be distrust when people don’t know each other. There are good Muslims and there are bad Muslims, just as there are good Christians and bad Christians, and so on…

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2011
2:26 pm

I was thinking about sending some CDs to our compassionate conservatives in congress. Something like this comes to mind.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 25th, 2011
2:27 pm

Jay, since we defeat you intellectually and in debate and in discourse here daily, are you saying we are not polite? I respectfully suggest you close with an unsubstantial logic.

Normal

January 25th, 2011
2:28 pm

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2011
2:15 pm

Tax,
I don’t know about that, but I do know I feel a whole lot safer now that I know Scout takes a gun to Church….

saywhat?

January 25th, 2011
2:28 pm

I’m still waiting for one of the 80-100,00 Muslims in Atlanta to try and blow me up, and hate me for my freedoms and such. Southern Muslims must be lazy, or just really bad at the terrorism thing.

Normal

January 25th, 2011
2:30 pm

And next month, King’s committee is scheduled to hold public hearings into the alleged disloyalty of the Muslim-American community.

Tailgunner Joe is alive and well it seems… :roll:

barking frog

January 25th, 2011
2:30 pm

Just like Iraq and Afghanistan will never be the same after
encountering thousands of GIs, We are experiencing change
from an influx of muslims and a realization that they have been
here as long as the rest of us. They will change just as their
former countrymen have changed and become more like us,
not necessarily a good thing. This guy too will go away.

Del

January 25th, 2011
2:31 pm

Road Scholar, perhaps you can point us to some events in your lifetime that should cause concern here in America about committed terrorist acts associated with the religious and ethnic groups you’ve identified.

Del

January 25th, 2011
2:32 pm

Check back later.

jm

January 25th, 2011
2:32 pm

saywhat? It’s the sweat tea.

jm

January 25th, 2011
2:33 pm

sweat tea? yuck. sweet tea.

Jay

January 25th, 2011
2:33 pm

That’s bull, jm.

What’s King gonna do, trot out this “secret” information in these public show trials he’s planning?

Nobody in law enforcement or national security has offered estimates that would come even close to that number. And we’d certainly have more home-grown terror incidents than the isolated, random cases we’ve seen so far.

As to context, you have the entire interview available to you.

barking frog

January 25th, 2011
2:33 pm

Normal

January 25th, 2011
2:28 pm
———————————————–
Hope the preacher doesn’t say…Shoot, Jesus….

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:34 pm

“A civilzation fights to preserve itself or it dies. Has ours become so hollow, such a pale imitation of its former self? Do we lack the capacity even to speak of the evils arrayed against us? Have we become so cowardly that our censure is reserved for our saviors, not our pillagers?”

Andrew C. McCarthy
Lead Federal Prosecutor
First World Trade Center Bombing
“The Grand Jihad”

Now, don’t you think he knows more about what is going on in this country regarding radical Islam than any of us on this thread including Jay ?

Bosch

January 25th, 2011
2:34 pm

” since we defeat you intellectually and in debate and in discourse here daily”

Some people are such champions in their own minds.

One Nation Under educated

January 25th, 2011
2:35 pm

“Jay, since we defeat you intellectually and in….blah…blah”

Dude. I know how to end the U.S. deficit. We could buy
you for what you’re worth, and sell you for what you
think you’re worth. Bam

Guy Incognito

January 25th, 2011
2:36 pm

Andrew McCarthy???? From, “Less Than Zero”?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 25th, 2011
2:37 pm

Well, when we get the Rev. Huckabee in the White House the towelheads will be finished. We’ll get back to holding prayer meetings in the guvmint offices and maybe bring Gonzalez back as AG to take out after these Muslim Traders. Right now they know they got a Kenyan Socialist Muslim there to protect them. What we need is a Southren Baptist President. Which ain’t quite as good as a Holiness President but will do.

Anyhow, I been thinking about downstairs and how Scout brings his gun to church. I figure people are well behaved in his church. There’s nothing like somebody that’s a little crazy and has a gun to make people think twice about what they say and do.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

jm

January 25th, 2011
2:37 pm

Jay – referring to context, I was talking about the second interview.

As far as King – the guy is a complete blowhard. So I discount what he says. But I’ve heard other gov’t officials say paranoid sounding things, and turns out they’re right…..

I’m ok with Obama having an “off switch” for the internet for this reason. As loopy and disgraceful as McKinney was, when she said something along the lines of “Bush knew about 9/11 beforehand”, she was about 50% or more correct….

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 25th, 2011
2:38 pm

Now, don’t you think he knows more about what is going on in this country regarding radical Islam than any of us on this thread including Jay ?

Considering one of us on this thread works in a capacity dealing with this very topic, I’d beg to differ somewhat.

Jay

January 25th, 2011
2:38 pm

Guy, you gave me a heart attack. I saw your comment and thought, OMG, did I write “Andrew McCarthy?”

Now i see it was Scout.

kayaker 71

January 25th, 2011
2:39 pm

Road Scholar,

I don’t recall Catholics and others blowing up buildings in this country or Jews as well. I don’t recall these same people vowing to kill the infidel and declaring jihad on anyone who disagreed with them. Apples and bananas, my friend.

jm

January 25th, 2011
2:39 pm

“(The interchange begins at 1:47 in the video below)”

Jay, the “video below” appears to be missing.

Guy Incognito

January 25th, 2011
2:39 pm

Jay, I was funnin off of Scout’s quote. You correctly put ’sconsin’s own, Joe Mc

Mick

January 25th, 2011
2:41 pm

Allen west is the rep from boca raton and is a certifiable loon. He will most definately be a one termer.

DWTOO

January 25th, 2011
2:41 pm

Nobody escapes the Spanish Inquisition. Perhaps there are still some of the internment camps used to house Japanese Americans available to house American Muslims.

At least illegal immigrants can breathe easier knowing we have a new bogeyman.

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 25th, 2011
2:43 pm

I think Road Scholar’s point is that at some point and time, there has been a group that was distrusted by others here in the US. All new immigrant groups go thru similar processes of assimilation.

Mick

January 25th, 2011
2:44 pm

yakker

Tim Mcvey was a catholic..

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:44 pm

Jay, et al:

You have your heads in the sand (no pun intended).

Why would you disrespect the opinion (and it’s more than that since he had acces to all the T/S information needed to prosecute) of a federal prosecutor who risked his life and the life of his family to prosecute that case?

Make fun or him ………… or debate his quotes. Your choice.

“The disposition that we must not critically examine Islam is both unneccessary and self-defeating. It is unneccessary because the Framers gave us a Constitution that guarantees freedom of conscience, not freedom from examination. You can believe whatever you wish to believe, but you do not foreclose your beliefs from inspection by labeling them ‘religion’ – even if the label is accurate.”

Andrew McCarthy

ByteMe

January 25th, 2011
2:46 pm

At least illegal immigrants can breathe easier knowing we have a new bogeyman.

Don’t bet on it. Call it a “co-bogeyman” and include gays in that list of bogeymen trotted out every time the Republicans need to incite a little fear to get their base to stick together.

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:46 pm

Mick:

So where is McVey’s terrorist network composed of million of followers. Did Catholic Bishops around the world laud him for his “martrydom”?

Wake up !

ByteMe

January 25th, 2011
2:47 pm

Scout thinks it’s important for someone to debate someone else’s book. Weird.

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 25th, 2011
2:47 pm

You have your heads in the sand (no pun intended).

Once again, I’ll say AHEM!! Without me and others like me, he wouldn’t get that info Scout. So, when you make broad swipes about who knows what, make sure your swipe is correct.

Suckers

January 25th, 2011
2:47 pm

If America is truly the promoter of tolerance and acceptance of others, than a religion that espouses a “with us, or against us” mentality is unlikely to be able to co-exist.

Adam

January 25th, 2011
2:48 pm

Conservative Commenters: Let me get this straight.

GOvernment cannot be trusted. No way, no how. It must be reduced and spending must be decreased and taxes must be decreased until we have a smaller government because we JUST CANNOT TRUST THEM GOSHDARNIT…

That is, unless one of them comes out and says that he estimates 80 percent of mosques house jihadists. That guy can be trusted, because he MUST know more about what’s going on, since he’s in the government.

Do I have that about right?

Jay

January 25th, 2011
2:48 pm

My apologies, jm. It should be up now.

And Scout, you now want government to be “examining beliefs”, huh?

ByteMe

January 25th, 2011
2:49 pm

Sshhhh, Adam. Don’t make their heads explode so early in the day.

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:49 pm

“Islam is not simply a religion. It is nothing more than an old way to oppress people.”

Author Unknown

Keep up the good fight!

January 25th, 2011
2:50 pm

Scout is back to recycle the same tired old quotes. Does not change the end result. I can tell you of many prosecutors and attorneys who have risked their lives for their clients. Scout would not care to listen to many of them unless they spout his particular religious inanity.

ByteMe

January 25th, 2011
2:50 pm

Now Scout quotes something that just as easily could have been said about Christians by Bill Maher, but he can’t attribute it.

ByteMe

January 25th, 2011
2:50 pm

When Ronald Reagan cut funding for mental health in this country, who knew that it would increase the number of conservative voters?

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:50 pm

Jay:

If those “beliefs” include terroristic acts, support, guidance and funding ……………… ABSOLUTELY !

Jay

January 25th, 2011
2:50 pm

You mean like that tolerant and accepting interviewer, Suckers?

Adam

January 25th, 2011
2:50 pm

“Christianity is not simply a religion. It is nothing more than an old way to oppress people.”

Fixed your typo. Actually my point is you could apply that to any religion

jm

January 25th, 2011
2:51 pm

jay 2:48 – no worries.

Keep up the good fight!

January 25th, 2011
2:51 pm

In 1775, John Adams wrote: “All sober inquirers after truth, ancient and modern, pagan and Christian, have declared that the happiness of man, as well as his dignity, consists in virtue. Confucius, Zoroaster, Socrates, Mahomet, not to mention authorities really sacred, have agreed in this.”

jewcowboy

January 25th, 2011
2:51 pm

I’m still in my 30’s, but I remember a time before the 24/7 cable television news cycle, when one only had to read about and be embarrassed by ones own shallow minded, moronic representatives.

Adam

January 25th, 2011
2:51 pm

ByteMe: I suspect someone somewhere on Reagan’s team knew that, and that’s why he did it (/conspiracy-theory)

Mick

January 25th, 2011
2:51 pm

scout

Mcvey and the turner diaries…I guess…doesn’t matter much innocents died that day…so what exactly are you proposing anyway? A litmus test for muslim clerics? Interment camps?

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 25th, 2011
2:52 pm

If those “beliefs” include terroristic acts, support, guidance and funding

And how do you go about proving that those “beliefs” indeed do as you think they do???

Bosch

January 25th, 2011
2:53 pm

Keep,

I love that Scout has so many “author unknown” quotes — all that tells me is that he likes to make up sh*t.

jt

January 25th, 2011
2:53 pm

I read somewhere,

that since 1980, more people have been kilt by DOLPHINS,

than radical Islamic extremists.

There is just no money involved in a War agin Sea Mammels.

stands for decibels

January 25th, 2011
2:53 pm

So where is McVey’s terrorist network composed of million of followers.

Gosh, wherever could one go to find millions of anti-government extremists?

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:53 pm

ByteMe:

I repeat:

So where is the Christian terrorist network composed of million of followers. Do Christian ministers around the world laud terrorists for their murders of thousands of innocent people? Are Christian churches hotbeds of terrorist networks ?

Your naivete’ is astounding.

Guy Incognito

January 25th, 2011
2:53 pm

Hey Mick,

How active was McV in church? Lib’s LOVE to tout McV as an example of a Christian terrorist, but it is a weak-minded link. If you can show that his priest told him to blow up the fed bldng in OK, than you would have a point

Paul

January 25th, 2011
2:56 pm

This shouldn’t take all that long to dispense with. The first part, anyhow. Rep King should call Sheik Kabbani to testify…. or…. he could just read into the record what Kabbani said, what King said formed the basis of his concern:

“Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani testified before a State Department Open Forum: “The most dangerous thing that is going on now in these mosques, that has been sent upon these mosques around the United States – like churches they were established by different organizations and that is ok – but the problem with our communities is the extremist ideology. Because they are very active they took over the mosques; and we can say that they took over more than 80% of the mosques that have been established in the US. And there are more than 3000 mosques in the US. So it means that the methodology or ideology of extremist has been spread to 80% of the Muslim population, but not all of them agree with it.”

Then he can read into the record follow-up questions and comments which sought to clarify those remarks:

http://www.meforum.org/61/muhammad-hisham-kabbani-the-muslim-experience-in

“”Extremist Ideology”

MEQ: You spoke last year, at a forum sponsored by the U.S. Department of State, of a “threat that will grow” if Americans do not “quickly stop the kind of extremist ideology that is filtering in.”4 What is that threat?

Kabbani: This is a delicate point, so allow me to make a couple of introductory comments. First, we should remember that the problem of extremism is not confined to the Muslim community. Extremists come out of a variety of traditions and focus on a variety of issues – paranoia about the growth of the federal government and obsession with abortion being two well-known issues that have led individuals to the kind of extremism I am talking about, sometimes with violence resulting.

Second, I used the word extremist in an ideological sense. I did not intend to imply that much of the leadership has engaged in acts of violence, or could be described as terrorists. In Arabic, my native language, extremism and terrorism have very different meanings and cannot be used interchangeably.

MEQ: How do you define extremism?

Kabbani: Extremism is an unwillingness to accept any viewpoint but one’s own. It is un-Islamic. In Arabic, ghulu means ideas that deviate from the center. The Prophet Muhammad specifically stated, “Do not go to the extreme in your religion.” Extreme ideas are not violent in themselves but they do on occasion lead to violent acts. That is the context in which I used the word “extremism” to describe ideas currently expressed in Islamic centers across America.

Ideological extremism can result in an act of violence when an individual pursues his ideas to such an extreme that he thinks only his ideas are correct and must therefore be enforced on everyone else.

MEQ: Is there a specifically Islamic quality to this extremism?

Kabbani: No, such extremism is found in every religion and ideology. In fact, in Islam it is specifically stated that “There is no compulsion in religion.”

Of course, the majority of Muslims are not extremists. Like any other group in America, Muslims as a whole are a peaceful people simply pursuing their lives and do not constitute a threat to anyone. But Islamic doctrine can be perverted by ideologues to justify harming others. The threat represented by those willing to use violence to pursue their goals—to terrorize people by throwing bombs and killing innocents—is a danger to all peace-loving people, Muslim and non-Muslim alike. Such acts, I should add, are expressly forbidden in Islam.

MEQ: What should Americans do to protect themselves from this threat?

Kabbani: The responsibility is on the American Muslim community to reject extremism and to condemn any act of violence. We must keep to a moderate line, as Prophet Muhammad said, “We are a moderate nation.”

Then Rep King might learn to instruct his staff on how to conduct research and he may want to think about stripping away his cultural biases when assessing remarks.

As to the second point, about Rep West: Rep King could invite him over for a drink and discuss his ‘lessons learned’. If that fails, well, 20 percent of any group will believe anything. Including Congress.

Guy Incognito

January 25th, 2011
2:56 pm

Sorry Scout, I seemed to have typed your thoughts

Misty Fyed

January 25th, 2011
2:56 pm

The person is smart but people are stupid. Whether or not 80% of mosques are radical isn’t really the issue and I doubt that number is based on any serious research. I mean what did they ask…Are you radical?

The problem is the most vile cowardly attacks in the world (today) consistently are committed by those claiming to be Muslim. Not Catholics, Baptists, Mormons, JWs, Buddhists, Hindu or whatever. It is difficult to convince the “people” how peace loving Islam is when all they have to do is turn the television on; regardless of how many non radical muslims there may be.

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:57 pm

stands for decibels :

“Gosh, wherever could one go to find millions of anti-government extremists?”

What you mean is millions of anti-big government. A legitimate political battle.

Now, concerning your “anti-government extremists” in this country how many thousands and thousands of innocent people have they murdered? Any heads cut off? Kidnappings? Stoning of women lately? Cutting off of hands and feet for petty crimes ?

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:57 pm

Misty Fyed :

Thank you.

stands for decibels

January 25th, 2011
2:57 pm

Jefferson

January 25th, 2011
2:58 pm

Sound like this chicken King should carry a gun with him everywhere as the big bad boogie islamist my jump up and get him.

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2011
2:58 pm

And Scout, you now want government to be “examining beliefs”, huh?

And it involves stirrups and… well, that’s our Scout. Always ready to get out in front and scope things out for us.

Christopher Logan

January 25th, 2011
2:58 pm

Enter your comments hereJay,

Here is a partial list of Mosques in America that are preaching for Sharia Law.

http://loganswarning.com/islamsharia-101sharia-mosques-in-america/

Now show me just one Mosque that is condemning Sharia. Do you know that Ellison has given speeches at Sharia conferences? Do you have any actual knowledge on the threat of Islam at all? Why do you stand up for a religion that condones rape and slavery?

Keep up the good fight!

January 25th, 2011
2:58 pm

Bosch — easier to edit. Of course it is amazing how many false quotes are attributed or truncated to make them appear to intend something they did not. Too bad that there are no real standards in blogs like courts. Blogs have all of the worse in breaches of real rules of evidence.

jm

January 25th, 2011
2:59 pm

Ok, bad idea for West to do the interview with Peritz. He should probably wack his staffers over the head a time or two. Second, West seemed to respond that one has to debate “these people” and defeat them intellectually. I’d say its a step up from what some of the nuttier folks have said.

I couldn’t watch the rest of the interview. The pandering made me to ill to watch the rest of the absurdities sure to follow.

If I had to assign “quack levels” to the two of them, Peritz gets an 8 or 9 (although I think some of his views might be common at AIPAC), and West only scores a 5 or 6.

@@

January 25th, 2011
2:59 pm

So it’s just King and Allen, jay?

Maybe you should talk to the F.B.I. ’cause they’re infiltrating mosques for SOME “unknown” reason. Unknown to you maybe, but not those with a higher security clearance. You’re the low man on the totem pole.

They’re using informants to infiltrate mosques throughout the U.S.

Who monitors or oversees the FBI?

The FBI’s activities are closely and regularly scrutinized by a variety of entities. Congress—through several oversight committees in the Senate and House—reviews the FBI’s budget appropriations, programs, and selected investigations. The results of FBI investigations are often reviewed by the judicial system during court proceedings. Within the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI is responsible to the attorney general, and it reports its findings to U.S. Attorneys across the country. The FBI’s intelligence activities are overseen by the Director of National Intelligence.

Just following orders from the higher ups, they are.

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:59 pm

“There are many moderate Muslims, but Islam is not moderate.”

Me

Scout

January 25th, 2011
2:59 pm

@@:

Thank you.

Jimmy62

January 25th, 2011
3:00 pm

Here’s the thing…. If he’s just making that up, then yeah, he’s got an irrational issue with Muslims. But what if he’s right? That’s the thing. You just assume he’s wrong and present no evidence to the contrary.

If 80% of US Mosques are led by Imams who espouse jihad (which, may I remind you, is a part of their religion), then that’s a problem. If you dispute what he calls a fact, then show us your evidence, don’t just say “He’s a bigot.”

And Keith Ellison is actually a pretty scummy guy, but that’s got nothing to do with his religion.

I’d also like to point out that Peter King has been in office since 2003, was not up for election in November, and there’s a decent chance the Tea Party woulda voted him out. No matter how much you like to repeat it, most folks who identify with the Tea Party are not bigots and do not like bigotry.

jewcowboy

January 25th, 2011
3:00 pm

The life cycle of an extremist…from birth to death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wZPYhgZ4RY

kayaker 71

January 25th, 2011
3:00 pm

Granny,

Is Alan West another Uncle Tom for his views? “A certifiable loon”, as Mick states? This man retired as a LTC, Infantry and served in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was airborne qualified and a commander of troops. He is the 1st conservative black congressman to serve since JC Watts, probably another Uncle Tom, in your opinion. For Christ’s sake, he even joined the Congressional Black Caucus with a little arm twisting and cajoling.
He might be remembered for having the balls to save American lives while interrogating an Iraqi when he encouraged the prisoner to talk by firing a pistol near the prisoner’s head, thereby avoiding an ambush planned for the unit in question. For that, he was given the thanks of his country and forced to retire from the Army. His men would have jumped off a bridge for him. He is a decorated, tell it like it is, hardcore infantry officer who is the first black person to win his Congressional district since 1876, and by a wide margin, I might add. All of you brothers and sisters cheered when Bozo took the Presidency but this guy is just not black enough for you and never will be.

stands for decibels

January 25th, 2011
3:00 pm

Then Rep King might learn to instruct his staff on how to conduct research and he may want to think about stripping away his cultural biases when assessing remarks.

heh. I’m trying to picture that Lawn Guyland wad-o-jerk setting about “stripping away cultural biases…”

Dusty

January 25th, 2011
3:01 pm

Soooo.. TWO congressmen speak out about the possibility of a problem with Muslims and that is a strong “anti-Muslim bigotry” movement with our legislators in Washington? Think what it would be if there were THREE who spoke out about a possible danger? Wow!

Oh, oh, Jay, the jaunty juggler of facts when he can jiggle political parties. Two Republican congressmen who would shake hands with anybody in congress at any time but they are BIGOTS! BooHoo Bigots ’cause they keep an eye on American security. Those naughty boys!!! They act like they have not forgotten 9/11 !! How awful!!!! Don’t they know they are suppsoed to forget??

Jay

January 25th, 2011
3:01 pm

Scout writes:

“If those “beliefs” include terroristic acts, support, guidance and funding ……………… ABSOLUTELY !”

And I absolutely agree. But that little two-letter word, “if”, does an awful lot of work in that sentence. If King has evidence that 80 percent or 8 percent or .08 percent of American mosques are preaching radical jihadist Islam, he ought to turn that evidence over to authorities, who will act.

But without such evidence — and King has none — a responsible person wouldn’t spout such nonsense likely to turn innocent people in their houses of worship into targets of hate and violence.

ByteMe

January 25th, 2011
3:02 pm

Scout: Your paranoia is astounding as well. So where is the “Islamic network with millions of followers” in this country? How big is the Christian kiddie-diddlers network? You going after them with the same gusto or do they look too much like you?

Tariq

January 25th, 2011
3:03 pm

As a Muslim, I feel that at least 80% of the mosques in this country are apolitical and shun any type of political involvement. In fact that was part of the problem, Muslims are now waking up to the fact that we have to get involved politically in our towns and cities, no matter how dirty one’s hands get when playing the game of politics- at the very least to save us from the bigotry and vile mis-information campaign going around.

Rep. King’s statement is laughable at best, never have I heard any Imam espouse these beliefs at any khutba (Friday sermon) that I’ve been to. Sure, they’re may be some nuts out there, but those are few and far between.

Scout

January 25th, 2011
3:03 pm

Jay:

You must be kidding.

The FBI is up to it’s neck in this matter including infiltrating mosques all over this country.

How naive can you be …………………

And yes, I still have contacts in that organization that you don’t have or you would be telling the truth.

Scout

January 25th, 2011
3:03 pm

Jay:

What if the figure is 80% or 50% or 30 % (all huge numbers).

What is your course of action ?

getalife

January 25th, 2011
3:04 pm

Perhaps they should encourage the people protesting for freedom in Tunisia and Egypt instead.

Scout

January 25th, 2011
3:04 pm

Tarig:

Thank you “stands for decibels”.

@@

January 25th, 2011
3:04 pm

Oh, and jay? I’ve always admired Lanny Davis as a Democrat I could admire. He wrote a fond farewell to Sen. Lieberman.

Take a good look at how a gentlemen behaves.

You could learn a thing or two from Lanny although I doubt you’re interested.

@@

January 25th, 2011
3:05 pm

Oops! Too many “admires” in there, but when I admire, I admire.

Adam

January 25th, 2011
3:05 pm

I have yet to see a conservative commenter respond AT ALL to my 2:48p, much less reasonably.

This says a lot doncha think?

Scout

January 25th, 2011
3:05 pm

getalife:

No, they want to install Islamic states.

In addition, Islam uses democracy to further its goals of domination.

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 25th, 2011
3:06 pm

Of course, the majority of Muslims are not extremists. Like any other group in America, Muslims as a whole are a peaceful people simply pursuing their lives and do not constitute a threat to anyone. But Islamic doctrine can be perverted by ideologues to justify harming others. The threat represented by those willing to use violence to pursue their goals—to terrorize people by throwing bombs and killing innocents—is a danger to all peace-loving people, Muslim and non-Muslim alike. Such acts, I should add, are expressly forbidden in Islam.

Paul

I highlighted that for you. People like Rep. King are more of the problem than they are the solution. I can’t go into detail here, because this is not the proper venue. This country really needs to educate itself on the true beliefs of Islam. Not the soft, cuddly version, not the radicalized version, but the true un-abridged version. Islam is as varied in it’s beliefs as Christianity is. There are some who eat, sleep, and breath each and every written word of the Holy Book as if it is life itself, while there are others who live the principles but not down to the very last letter.

If people would just step back from the Islam bashing for a while and open their eyes, the true nature of the problem can be seen. Once the true nature is known, then the true solution will be easy to find.

Mick

January 25th, 2011
3:06 pm

guy

All I was stating is that mcvey was catholic…but by the same token do you believe every muslim cleric is ordering bombings? Tis a slippery slope and trust me, I have no great love for radical islam or
radical __________(fill in blank).

stands for decibels

January 25th, 2011
3:06 pm

I’ve always admired Lanny Davis as a Democrat

oh, yeah, he’s such a mensch, that Lanny.

Scout

January 25th, 2011
3:08 pm

Adam:

Go back and read the 10th Amendment.

And no, I do not trust Obama.

Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)

January 25th, 2011
3:09 pm

(which, may I remind you, is a part of their religion)

Do you even know what jihad is or how many different versions of jihad there are?

jewcowboy

January 25th, 2011
3:09 pm

Adam,

“This says a lot doncha think?”

I suppose it’s kind of the same way election results mean nothing when Democrats wins, but if Republicans win it is a mandate from the people.

Northern Songs LTD

January 25th, 2011
3:09 pm

See, Scout, and his kind, want the big bad government out of their lives, but not the lives of anybody they disagree with.