In Congress, anti-Muslim bigotry gaining a strong foothold
According to U.S. Rep. Peter King, R-NY, more than 80 percent of the mosques in this country are headed by imams who espouse radical Islamic jihad.
Eighty percent. King has offered that estimate in the past, and did so again this week in a radio interview:
King did not claim to have a list of those subversive enemies of American freedom in his suit pocket, as Sen. Joe McCarthy did 60 years ago. But like McCarthy, King does have the chairmanship of a prominent congressional committee, in his case the House Homeland Security Committee. And next month, King’s committee is scheduled to hold public hearings into the alleged disloyalty of the Muslim-American community.
That ought to go so very well, don’t you think?
And then we’ve got U.S. Rep. Allen West, a newly elected Republican from Florida. In a recent interview with a cable TV program called “The Shalom Show,” West was asked a rather odd question about U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, a Minnesota Democrat and a Muslim, and he responded with an equally odd answer (The interchange begins at 1:47 in the video below):
Interviewer Richard Peritz: “Since you’re with a new crowd, people you haven’t really met before and will be very closely associated with in the future, including Keith Ellison, who supports Islam. How will you manage that, if I may ask? Because it’s not really easy to be that … polite, often, with individuals one totally disagrees with, which I believe may be the case.”
Rep. West: “I think it’s most important that I stand upon the principles that people elected me to go to Washington DC and represent them on Capitol Hill. So that when you run into someone that is counter or someone that really does represent the antithesis of the principles upon which this country was established, you got to be able to defeat them intellectually and in debate and discourse.”
It really is astounding. Is it possible to be polite to a Muslim-American? Does Ellison, by the mere fact of being a Muslim, “represent the antithesis of the principles upon which this country was established?”
Or is that all just vile, ugly bigotry spouted by men wearing nice suits?
– Jay Bookman
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Keep up the good fight!
January 25th, 2011
3:09 pm
And yes, I still have contacts in that organization that you don’t have or you would be telling the truth
Why that there is real proof? Law abiding FBI agents sharing information with someone who is not in the organization about infitrations, etc. The conspiracy goes all the way up I tell you. I want to know who is giving Scout this info and why? This is plain unamerican. Scout should be investigated. If he has confidential information, then really made it wise to blab that info on a blog like this for all to see.
Either Scout is lying or he is endangering law enforcement.
JohnnyReb
January 25th, 2011
3:09 pm
I received this from a friend. It has some history on Col. West, plus he nails it in the video. And, I’m glad some of you overly bleeding hearts are not in charge, else we might end up being house boys.
Col West, a Republican is from Southern Florida, a bastion of the Democratic Party. He won in a walk. This new Congressman was an extremely popular commander in Iraq. He was forced to retire because during an intense combat action a few of his men were captured. At the same time his men were captured, an Iraqis was captured by his team. Knowing that time was crucial and his interrogators were not getting anywhere with the prisoner, COL West took matters into his own hands. He burst into the room and demanded through an interpreter that the prisoner tell him where his men were being taken. The prisoner refused so COL West took out his pistol and placed it into the prisoner’s crotch and fired. Then the COL told the prisoner that the next shot would not miss. The prisoner showed where the captured American service members had been taken. The soldiers were rescued. Someone filed a report on incorrect handling of prisoners. COL West was forced to retire.
During the Florida election Col West was part of a panel discussing how to handle or how to relate to Muslims. His answer is at the link below. Here is a new congressman from Florida explaining very definitively in just over a minute the truth about Islam.
http://secure.afa.net/afa/activism/takeaction.asp?id=384
Scout
January 25th, 2011
3:09 pm
None of you libs have described the worldwide, clergy led, Christian terrorist network involving millions of followers and responsible for thousands and thousands of murders and carnage.
I’m waiting.
getalife
January 25th, 2011
3:10 pm
Scout,
I thought you cons are against dictators?
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:10 pm
Scout: Try again. It’d be nice if you actually addressed the point I was trying to make instead of making points to only a small segment of it.
jewcowboy: That is true!
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2011
3:11 pm
“See, Scout, and his kind, want the big bad government out of their lives, but not the lives of anybody they disagree with.”
Bingo!
Scout
January 25th, 2011
3:11 pm
Keep up the good fight!:
You obviously don’t know the difference between classified and unclassified information.
Check it out. Much of it has been released to the press and public by the FBI.
Do your own research.
Scout
January 25th, 2011
3:12 pm
jewcowboy:
Your putting words in my mouth. Not nice.
Read the 10th Amendment.
Jay
January 25th, 2011
3:12 pm
It wasn’t that long ago that we had the Irish Republican Army, Scout. And in Bosnia, we had the Christians committing mass murder of thousands of Bosnian Muslims. And in India, the anti-Muslim Hindu riots.
Scout
January 25th, 2011
3:13 pm
Adam:
You answer this one and we’ll see:
None of you libs have described the worldwide, clergy led, Christian terrorist network involving millions of followers and responsible for thousands and thousands of murders and carnage.
I’m waiting.
@@
January 25th, 2011
3:13 pm
stands:
Don’t know anything about the Gbagbo fella, but I do know leftists were in favor of leaving Saddam Hussein to oppress HIS people, so-o-o-oooo….
don’t know how you can criticize Lanny.
I was referring to Lanny’s political approach.
Keep up the good fight!
January 25th, 2011
3:14 pm
If it is unclassified, Scouty, and can be looked up then you claim to have information that others dont because of “contacts” is nonsensical. You have no idea whether or not anyone has looked up that info but you pretend to have special knowledge. Sorry, you fail.
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:14 pm
Also Scout, you can’t describe Al Qiada or Muslims that way. Muslims are clergy led and have millions of followers but are not responsible for thousands of murders and carnage in modern times (though if you want to go back to the middle ages, I can show you Christians doing far worse). Al Qiada is not clergy led and does not have millions of followers, but is responsible for murders and carnage.
I can only come to the conclusion that you are incorrectly equating the two. Good job not being prejudiced! *wink* Doncha know!
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2011
3:14 pm
Isn’t that Sharia Law just an offshoot of Southern Baptist Law.
Guy Incognito
January 25th, 2011
3:14 pm
Come-on Scout, you may as well ask them to find a “Home Security System” commercial that shows a minority breaking into a home
Dusty
January 25th, 2011
3:15 pm
Now Jay says that congressman King has NO evidence to support his statements. How does Jay know that? Does Bookman have access to security information sent to Congress? NO. Or the House Homeland Security Committee ? NO.
He is simply drumming his old dance against Republicans. And all his little buddies dance with him. Here’s the bait so JUMP he says.and they do.
Normal
January 25th, 2011
3:15 pm
There he is, in a closed dark room, lit only by the monitors glow. He types furiously hoping to get his message out before they find him. He must hurry. Suddenly he hears the a squeak, turns to see the door knob slowly turning. He reaches for his pistol and takes aim as the the door opens. He sees a turban. In a panic, he fires…only to find his wife with a towel wrapped around her head after a shower.
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:15 pm
Now it’s your turn to answer mine Scout. I will respond to your response to my last post only AFTER you have done so.
I’m waiting.
Scout
January 25th, 2011
3:17 pm
“It is delusional to regard as ‘moderate’ people whose designs are radical. If the threat to freedom is geometrically broader that the threat of mass-murder attacks, it is national suicide for a free, self-determining people to pretend that our problems are limited to Muslim terrorists.”
“For Islamists, democracy is a tool for acquiring power, not a culture of governance.”
“The central imperative of Islam is the propagation of its doctine and law.”
idaslaptor
January 25th, 2011
3:17 pm
Good!
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2011
3:17 pm
Scout,
“Your putting words in my mouth. Not nice”
You do a fine job of putting your own foot…er, words in your mouth.
“Read the 10th Amendment.”
I have thank you very much.
Peadawg
January 25th, 2011
3:18 pm
bigotry – another word for i don’t agree with you.
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:18 pm
Scout your quotes seem to be by non Muslims. What do they know about Islam?
Paul
January 25th, 2011
3:20 pm
SoCom
Well, it’s nice to know at least one person read the link on Kabbani’s expanded remarks. How he stated ‘extremism’ is not the same as ‘terrorist’ or ‘violent’ and how he defined ‘extremism’ as deviating from the middle way, from moderation, as rejecting others, as not assimilating into America.
But, I guess if a lot of bloggers actually read what he said and thought about it, they’d be less inclined to make a great leap of illogic and display ignorance.
Or not.
Scout
January 25th, 2011
3:20 pm
Jay:
We’re talking about this country !
Was the Irish Republican Army a religion? Where were their churches? I must have missed that.
Joe the paleo-neo-Plutocrat
January 25th, 2011
3:21 pm
somebody needs to tell Batman; oh wait, that was ADAM West. somebody needs to tell the FNG Rep from FL the oath he took upon being sworn in as a member of Congress requires him to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…” it doesn’t say anything about “stand(ing) in the principles of the people that elected me and sent me to Washington…” wanna know why? ’cause what if “the people that sent me to Washington…” are “domestic enemies” of the United States? see, the Constitution allows for Muslims to be elected, just as it allows ex-military xenophobes to be elected. but here’s my rhetorical chin rubber, could you imagine if the Muslim rep from Minnesota played THAT card? “…well, since my district is primarily Muslim, screw the Constitution, I’m gonna stand on the principles of Islam…” that’s all for now, folks…
Doggone/GA
January 25th, 2011
3:21 pm
“What do they know about Islam?”
Same as Scout: be afraid, be very afraid!
Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)
January 25th, 2011
3:21 pm
Y’all have fun with this one. So far off base, there’s no need to even try to correct any of it.
Later
Scout
January 25th, 2011
3:21 pm
Adam:
More than you know.
At least he prosecuted them.
You would probably have let them go under the guise of religious persecution.
Lord help us.
kayaker 71
January 25th, 2011
3:22 pm
Alan,
I’ll take on your 2:48. No we don’t trust this clown of a president and most everyone who agrees with him. I would not trust you if you were an elected official and supporting Bozo’s policies. He has given us no reason to trust him. He has lied, cajoled, berated and demonized the opposition at every turn, only to get soundly thumped in the last election. And he still doesn’t get it, as do most Democrats. We don’t like whats going, Adam, we don’t like it at all. And trust….. you can forget that, my friend.
USMC dawg
January 25th, 2011
3:22 pm
More Chicagoland Obama Style Politics:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/25/breaking-illinois-supreme-court-to-take-up-rahm-appeal/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
Lord Help Us
January 25th, 2011
3:22 pm
Scout,
Do you believe there is sufficient evidence against Muslims in this country to take action?
If so, what action do you think is needed?
Internment camps?
Raid Mosques?
Make the practice of Islam illegal?
Jimmy62
January 25th, 2011
3:22 pm
Adam: No one responded to your comment at 2:48 because it was an inane interpretation of conservative beliefs that show you don’t know a damn thing about how the other side thinks.
Dusty
January 25th, 2011
3:24 pm
All you folks jumping on Scout would do better to jump on Jay Bookman. He’s the one who can jump to a conclusion over two people and make a serious judgment without any particular facts to prove his point.
We do know that Scout worked in a government protection agency for many years. (He is truthful.) How long has Bookman worked in one? I’m talking about protection, not rabble rousing.
@@
January 25th, 2011
3:24 pm
Claims of bigotry. A liberal “journalist’s” only line of defense. His last hurrah. HIS allah akbar.
schnirt
I’m out! jay’s become too predictable.
jm
January 25th, 2011
3:24 pm
“I will respond to your response to my last post only AFTER you have done so.”
Scout. Don’t blink.
Scout
January 25th, 2011
3:24 pm
Time to go see my grandchildren.
Try to be nice to each other.
I’ll leave you liberal ostriches with this:
Multiple Choice Quiz:
Which of the following “religious” entities in the United States requires untold millions in taxpayer money and immense NSA, Military Intelligence, CIA, FBI (to name a few) assets to conduct investigations and physical surveillances of places of worship, community service establishments, places of education, etc. via undercover FBI agents, paid informants and sophisticated electronic means:
a) Roman Catholic Church
b) Methodist Church
c) Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons)
d) Church of God
e) Southern Baptist Church
f) Judaism (all forms)
g) Lutheran Church
h) Presbyterian Church
i) Episcopal Church
j) Mennonnite Church
k) Church of the Brethren
l) Nazarene Church
m) 7th Day Adventist Church
n) Quakers
o) Church of Christ
p) Islam
Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)
January 25th, 2011
3:24 pm
Paul
Stuff like that is kinda like required reading for the job. I don’t know nearly as much as some of the other guys I work with, but I do know enough to say that much of what’s said here on this blog is like trying to apply wings to the Titanic to keep it from sinking. People who are unaware of what they are doing are actually giving extremists the fuel they need to stoke their fires. All one has to remember is that we are a nation of laws, and the highest law of the land is the US Constitution.
gone now….
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:25 pm
kayaker: What about the part about trusting the guy who inspired this blog post in the first place? You know, that you trust him implicitly to tell us how much of a domestic terrorist threat we have because he’s in the government and obviously has more information than we do? Can you respond to that?
I already know you don’t trust government, and particularly you don’t trust the “Kenyan Marxist Usurper.” I don’t care about that. Tell me why your tune changes when we talk about someone ELSE in government.
jconservative
January 25th, 2011
3:25 pm
I liked one part of Allen West’s remarks – “…you got to be able to defeat them intellectually and in debate and discourse.”
This indicates he is not into third grade name calling, like the guy who asked the question, but has the idea that one can debate ues and maintain civility.
The interviewer said: “…Because it’s not really easy to be that … polite, often, with individuals one totally disagrees with…”
The interviewer is saying that he lacks the intellectual ability to debate issues without third grade name calling.
Fascinating. The interviewer made a fool of himself and does not have a clue…………..
Paul
January 25th, 2011
3:25 pm
JohnnyReb
That account, complete with the crotch shot and prisoners rescued, appears to be….. embellished.
http://www.webcitation.org/5uL7JlWF8
kayaker 71
January 25th, 2011
3:25 pm
Joe,
First time in a long time that I have read about an FNG. It’s been a long time.
Jimmy62
January 25th, 2011
3:26 pm
Jay: The IRA was killing other Christians, but even so, I’ll give it to you. And the Bosnians killed Muslims, yes. And Bill Clinton let them do it when he could have stopped it. But I’ll give you that one, too.
Thing is, none of those are happening anymore, and when they were, plenty of people were upset about it.
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2011
3:26 pm
If our compassionate conservative bloggers do not feel safe yet, then perhaps they should be pushing for fifty-round clips for their handguns. And just think of the bulge their concealed weapons will cause. The Republican men will swoon every time they see one of their heavily-armed womenfolk walk by.
jconservative
January 25th, 2011
3:26 pm
That is “debate issues”. Sorry re the typo.
Lord Help Us
January 25th, 2011
3:26 pm
‘Time to go see my grandchildren.’
Hope none of them are Muslim…
jm
January 25th, 2011
3:26 pm
Adam 3:18 – “Scout your quotes seem to be by non Muslims. What do they know about Islam?” Afraid that’s not a very persuasive argument.
What does Obama know about being a Georgian? He’s never lived here. So he shouldn’t have any insight into, or control over, how we should live our lives….. beautiful logic.
Southern Comfort (B.P.O.I.B.W.)
January 25th, 2011
3:26 pm
Dusty
Scout worked for the Secret Service. Check the mission of the SS versus the FBI, CIA, NSA, CBP, and other agencies. Scout probably knows people and knows a few things, but definitely not everything. If there was someone in the US that knew everything, we wouldn’t have a problem at all with extremists or extremism.
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:27 pm
Jimmy62 @ 3:22p If more of what your side thinks made more sense and wasn’t full of contradictions then maybe I would understand it better. I do welcome you to explain to me how you can distrust all government EXCEPT the guy who tells you 80 percent of mosques have jihadists, because, you know, his information gleaned from the government is clearly superior to the information we have.
Normal
January 25th, 2011
3:27 pm
He forgot one:
Multiple Choice Quiz:
Which of the following “religious” entities in the United States requires untold millions in taxpayer money and immense NSA, Military Intelligence, CIA, FBI (to name a few) assets to conduct investigations and physical surveillances of places of worship, community service establishments, places of education, etc. via undercover FBI agents, paid informants and sophisticated electronic means:
a) Roman Catholic Church
b) Methodist Church
c) Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons)
d) Church of God
e) Southern Baptist Church
f) Judaism (all forms)
g) Lutheran Church
h) Presbyterian Church
i) Episcopal Church
j) Mennonnite Church
k) Church of the Brethren
l) Nazarene Church
m) 7th Day Adventist Church
n) Quakers
o) Church of Christ
p) Islam
q) All of the above
Joe the paleo-neo-Plutocrat
January 25th, 2011
3:28 pm
Scout, enough with the drama. MILLIONS? try thousands. there are hundreds of millions of Muslims, but al Qeada is lucky if it claims 10,000 members. OH, and did you forget who initially “designed” trained and funded al Qaeda. of course back then (1980’s) they were our pals and we didn’t care about religion because they were the Mujhadeen (freedom fighters) against the Soviets in Afghanistan.
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:29 pm
jm: I know it’s not a persuasive argument. I was throwing it out there to see what kind of response Scout would give. I knew it wouldn’t be something as reasonable as pointing out the logical fallacy. Instead it was just silence.
kayaker 71
January 25th, 2011
3:29 pm
Normal,
Well said.
Tommy Maddox
January 25th, 2011
3:30 pm
“….that this is a propaganda war – this is an information war…”
Man is he right.
Paul
January 25th, 2011
3:31 pm
Adam
“I do welcome you to explain to me how you can distrust all government ”
Having been here a while, I’ll observe I don’t believe even some of our most conservative regulars have spoken in the absolutes that form the basis for your question(s).
Tommy Maddox
January 25th, 2011
3:31 pm
Sorry Jay – this fellow knows his stuff.
Bosch
January 25th, 2011
3:33 pm
Off topic and stop the presses:
http://www.accessatlanta.com/celebrities-tv/medical-marijuana-users-getting-813717.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:33 pm
Paul: Now it begins to make sense. They only distrust government when there are Democrats or liberals there. So if it was all conservative and there were no Kenyans or Muslims, would that be satisfactory?
Big D
January 25th, 2011
3:35 pm
The vast majority of Americans have finally found a place where our voices are heard, we tore you a new one and what is your answer …FAIRNESS DOCTRINE…and control of the internet. You cannot match wits with us so you are not going to be happy unless you dominate the forum. I have a question for all you liberal intellectuals….Guns have not changed much in 100 years and it is much harder to get guns now than it has been in the past 50 years. If guns are not anymore dangerous than they were 100 years ago and harder to get …why is there more violence here now. Sure I know the answer….do you.
Joe the paleo-neo-Plutocrat
January 25th, 2011
3:36 pm
kayaker71, I have no firsthand experience with the acronym, but I thought it appropriate for Rep West, given his military background, and if I am not mistaken, FNG is not a term of endearment – more like, you gotta earn the right to be called by name, until you do, you’re just a FNG. you’d think an experienced soldier would know when he walks into an ambush.
Jimmy62
January 25th, 2011
3:37 pm
Adam: I don’t distrust all government. When government sticks to what the Constitution says it should do, government tends to do a decent job. It’s only when a government official starts talking about how much better off we would all be if he could just make everyone buy certain things, eat certain ways, and espouse certain ideas that I find I don’t trust them.
Anyone who completely trusts their government and refuses to question authority is a fool. Whereas you seem to have a problem with Conservatives for not trusting everything government says. I’m not here to call people names, so I will let you connect the dots.
Lord Help Us
January 25th, 2011
3:37 pm
‘FAIRNESS DOCTRINE…and control of the internet.’
Oh. My. God.
The turdblossom parade never ends…
HDB
January 25th, 2011
3:37 pm
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2011
2:53 pm
“Gosh, wherever could one go to find millions of anti-government extremists?”
Try Idaho…and Eastern Washington state…by Spokane!!
Big D
January 25th, 2011
3:37 pm
Do you think Putin may have had enough of the Islamic terrorists in Russia ???
Paul
January 25th, 2011
3:39 pm
Adam
Seriously, what I’ve gleaned is many conservatives think private sector generally does things better than government; that government will consume whatever resources are made available and will still want more; that government is inefficient, altho they’ll grudgingly concede it is at times effective; they oftentimes adhere to federalism; they see bureaucracies, at times, pursuing their own agendas and more interested in perpetuating their power than in serving the publlic.
And yeah, they often direct that ire towards liberals or Democrats. But many seem to have the same view of the extra-Congressional bureaucracy regardless of the political affiliation of the current administration of of the majority party in the House or Senate.
They can go overboard with the mantras (review Jay’s column on ‘gov’t never created a job) but that seems to be an area where the farfarRight is in sync with the lalalandLeft.
Jimmy62
January 25th, 2011
3:39 pm
Adam: Once again you rise to the occasion, demonstrating for all your lack of, well, knowledge. Plenty of conservatives railed against Bush for things like Medicare Part D, and TARP I.
But I guess it would be hard to maintain your blinders if you actually bothered to remember anything that happened more than 5 minutes ago.
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:40 pm
Jimmy62: I have a problem with conservative double speak, and the ridiculous argument that we should trust this guy because he has more information than we do. It’s ridiculous for MANY reasons.
Big D
January 25th, 2011
3:40 pm
LHU, we didn’t bring it up when liberals dominated the air waves…it’s you whinee babies who keep throwing it out there and hoping it will stick somewhere.
Paul
January 25th, 2011
3:41 pm
Hey Bosch!
I think you just made getalife’s day -
LHU
I think Big D was trying to yank some chains -
At least… I hope that’s what it was….
kayaker 71
January 25th, 2011
3:42 pm
Joe,
My apologies for misinterpreting your meaning. In the context where I used the term, it was a term of endearment for a new guy that had just reported into a military unit serving in VN. It depicted a really fresh,inexperienced person who someone would have to look after for awhile until he got acclimated. It had just been a very long time since I had heard it mentioned.
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2011
3:42 pm
Bosch @ 3.33,
I wonder what would happen if you mixed one of those with a Redbull? And what would it be called?
Big D
January 25th, 2011
3:43 pm
Paul…BINGO.
Lord Help Us
January 25th, 2011
3:43 pm
‘it’s you whinee babies who keep throwing it out there and hoping it will stick somewhere.’
What is the name/number of the Legislation, who is sponsoring it, who has held any hearings? etc…
Why dont’cha gather those little bits of information and get back to me.
Thanks in advance…
jm
January 25th, 2011
3:43 pm
Sidebar. It’s raining today. You think they’ll shut the city down tomorrow? Has anyone alerted the state DOT?
Given that…. Atlantans seem to have difficulty driving in the rain.
Lord Help Us
January 25th, 2011
3:44 pm
‘At least… I hope that’s what it was…’
It appears Big D was serious…
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:45 pm
Johnny62: You can pull a couple of things out of the sky that I failed to mention, but I would have to write my own article that’s at least 4 times as long as Jay’s longest post in order to put enough background in for you to get that I actually DID know that conservatives were against those things. I’m talking about right here, right now. The current debate, which is we need to make the government smaller coming from the very people who seek to make it larger for their purposes and smaller for any purposes they don’t support (increase military, Patriot Act, outlaw abortions, decrease taxes, decrease anything that could be called “entitlement”).
If you’re going to invoke the past, you have to recognize how horrible of a job conservatives have done in the past if indeed they were trying to make government smaller.
But I guess it would be hard to maintain your blinders if you actually bothered to remember anything that happened more than 5 minutes ago.
Wait, what were we talking about again?
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2011
3:45 pm
“FAIRNESS DOCTRINE…and control of the internet. You cannot match wits with us so you are not going to be happy unless you dominate the forum.”
With one more brain, someone who makes comments such as this might constitute a half-wit.
Bosch
January 25th, 2011
3:46 pm
Hey Paul!
I’ve been working on a something today and have had complete writer’s block. I HATE that. Hell, forget getalife, I just made MY day. (j/k getalife)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Okay wingnuts, I’m waiting on the answer to the poster who asked what we were to do about Isam, ban it? Make it illegal? Concentration camps?
What?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LHU,
You forgot the word “freaking”
Monterey
January 25th, 2011
3:46 pm
Jay, Neville Chamberlain would be proud of you. You’re an appeaser to the bitter end. You and your PC brethren just provide cover for the Muslims when you attack the people who oppose their evil as “bigots”. Many of those imams that you’re kissing up to would lop off your infidel head in a second if they could.
Maybe you were hibernating on 9/11/2001.
Big D
January 25th, 2011
3:46 pm
My problem with liberals are they can never answer a question directly they dodge, bob, weave, throw down road blocks , insult everything about you well before an intelligent answer.
Paul
January 25th, 2011
3:47 pm
jewcowboy
If you asked my son when he was 10 what the Fairness Doctrine is, he’d have said “Life isn’t fair. Deal with it.”
Tommy Maddox
January 25th, 2011
3:47 pm
Jay: Rep. West is simply stating that Islam is the antithesis of the basis upon which the US was founded and that would be correct. If you prefer a stretch, however, there is however, that blurb in the Declaration of Independence relating to the Indians out West…
Bosch
January 25th, 2011
3:47 pm
jewcowboy,
“I wonder what would happen if you mixed one of those with a Redbull?”
Probably nothing — they’d cancel each other out!
Big D
January 25th, 2011
3:48 pm
LHU…I own your goat.
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2011
3:48 pm
“Clay Butler says he plans to supply medical marijuana dispensaries with his soda pot, which contains the psychoactive marijuana ingredient THC.”
Now…this has be intrigued. I am not quite that up on the medical benefits of marijuana, but it would seem to me the health benefits being touted are not derived from the psychoactive effects.
Lord Help Us
January 25th, 2011
3:48 pm
‘My problem with liberals are they can never answer a question directly they dodge, bob, weave, throw down road blocks , insult everything about you well before an intelligent answer.’
Methinks an intelligent answer would be a waste of time…
josef nix
January 25th, 2011
3:48 pm
Road Scholar
@ 2:24
“Del: Is that the same distrust shown to jews and catholics in the south in the past? How about Italians,Hispanics, etc.? Allright conserves, I know I’ll hear otherwise.”
The sixth post and already time for a history lesson. This is not the same distrust show in the South in the past. Number one, the South has a record of Jewish and Catholic firsts in American politics which would be astounding to those who like Road Scholar think that South equates such bigotry. The South also led the nation in electing Hispanics and Italian-Americans. That can be verified very easily from a simple search.
Anti-Semitism from the congressional body, which this anti-Muslim rhetoric smacks of, was not only prevalent in speeches of the 1860 period, but were totally absent from the Southern body. See Senator Wilson, Senator (later vice-president) Andrew Johnson for some of the more scurrilous utterances by elected officials. The federal congress refused to commission rabbis as chaplains and as late as the 1850s was refusing to commission Catholic priests, a practice brought to an end under pressure from the Texans and Louisianans. In the first election of the nation as a whole in which a Catholic ran for president, Al Smith, the only states to cast their electoral votes for him were from the South.
That’s history.
Rather than gratuitously smear the South out of prejudicial bigotry, it might better be held up as a positive model, And it is just this type of ignorance that permits such as these two Congressmen to come out of the woodwork spouting their venom.
Adam
January 25th, 2011
3:49 pm
Big D: Do you think Putin may have had enough of the Islamic terrorists in Russia ???
You mean that question? How’s this direct answer for you:
Yes.
Bosch
January 25th, 2011
3:49 pm
Big D,
We do answer your questions, y’all are just too stupid to realize it.
Lord Help Us
January 25th, 2011
3:49 pm
‘LHU…I own your goat’
He’s a virgin…please be gentle…
Joe the paleo-neo-Plutocrat
January 25th, 2011
3:49 pm
Normal, n – Quakers? just kidding, unless, of course you’re a native American, pre-1791. just kidding, ogf course, BUT you’re really showing your arse (exposed while you hide under the bed) with the use of the word “requires”. requires? according to whom? the DHS threat level color bar? but speaking of the George Bush monstrosity known as the Department of Homeland Security; you forgot to include the fundamentalist Christian Hectare sect, which seems to garner a fair amount of attention these days. OH, and Eric Rudolph, he sure turned the FBI, ATF and local law enforcement on their collective ear. And didn’t that other Christian soldier Tim McVeigh allude to some “Muslim terrorist” assistance or complcity (via his legal team) during his trial? the tail is wagging the dog, here. the DHS and the M-I complex has to have a boogeyman, now that the Rooskies are no longer Communists, and I ain’t saying bin Laden and his minions aren’t worthy of attention, it’s just the 100 million OTHER Muslims we’re (they’re) wasting their time “monitoring and observing” on our dime.
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2011
3:50 pm
Paul,
“If you asked my son when he was 10 what the Fairness Doctrine is, he’d have said “Life isn’t fair. Deal with it.””
Isn’t that true!
USMC dawg
January 25th, 2011
3:50 pm
Make Mine Freedom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6H63CD7uQA
jm
January 25th, 2011
3:50 pm
I wonder if Obama will us the SOTU to tell the judges that Rahm qualifies. And to thank the Eagles for taking Vick under their wing. And to thank the Boston Cop and Gates for getting together.
Maybe he’ll opine on snowmaggedon in Atlanta, or the volcano under Yellowstone. Maybe he’ll say that 5 of the 9 supreme court justices don’t know their legal precedents very well. Inquiring minds want to know. What stupid things might Obama say tonight? Or will he stick to empty promises?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1350123/Worlds-largest-volcano-Yellowstone-National-Park-wipe-thirds-US.html#ixzz1C3ZLrxbc
retired early
January 25th, 2011
3:51 pm
Wasn’t this country founded to escape ‘religious prosecution’ by England. Was England not ‘Christian’…isn’t the goal of The King James version of Christianity to ‘convert’ all of mankind to ‘believers’…did early Christian Kings fund massive crusades…invading whole countries of ‘heathens’…slaughtering every person in their way…Did English Protestant Kings burn Catholics at the stake…and Catholic kings do likewise to their Protestant citizens.
The similarities between Islam and Christianity are compelling…think it might be because both come from ancient origins… Maybe they are both grossly outdated for modern thinkers and modern science.
Both have caused much bloodshed from their overzealous ‘true believers’…so which one is worse…historically…
Paul
January 25th, 2011
3:51 pm
Big D
“My problem with liberals are they can never answer a question directly”
Some do
http://tinyurl.com/5rmoqpf
Lord Help Us
January 25th, 2011
3:52 pm
Big D,
You got that info on the Fairness Doctrine yet?
Should be simple, what’s the holdup?
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2011
3:53 pm
Bosch,
“Probably nothing — they’d cancel each other out!”
How about a shot of Jack dropped into a glass of Canna Cola…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aowSGxim_O8
jm
January 25th, 2011
3:54 pm
Think Obama will declare that Gore did create the internet tonight?
But now he needs the off switch…. has he asked Gore for permission?
Paul
January 25th, 2011
3:55 pm
retired early
“The similarities between Islam and Christianity are compelling”
Seems you’re equating the political entity of Christendom, not Christianity, of a thousand years ago with modern Islamic radicals.
“Maybe they are both grossly outdated for modern thinkers and modern science.”
Not if they know what and how they’re assessing -