CNN poll finds — surprise!! — a divided country
CNN released a new poll last week with some interesting numbers. For example, pollsters asked whether it would be good or bad for the country that Republicans will control the U.S. House of Representatives: 51 percent said it will be good, 42 percent said it will be bad.
That would seem to be pretty good news for the GOP. However, CNN also asked a similar question in 2006, when Democrats took over the House. Four years ago, 67 percent said the Democratic takeover would be good for the country, and only 24 percent said it would be bad. So voters are a lot less optimistic about the impact of GOP control.
But that’s just liberal CNN, right? Well, not quite. It turns out that CNN also asked that question after the 1994 takeover of the House by Newt Gingrich and the Republicans. In that poll, 50 percent of Americans said the GOP takeover would be good for the country, while just 26 percent said it would be bad.
So it seems that House Republicans in 2011 face an unusual amount of public skepticism about their leadership.
The latest CNN poll also asked voters whether they hoped President Obama’s policies would succeed or fail. Overall, 61 percent said they hoped his policies would succeed; 27 percent admitted they hoped his policies failed. The breakdown by party affiliation was stark:
Republicans are rooting against Obama’s success (27/61 percent) while the country as a whole is rooting for him by an identical margin (61/27 percent). (The breakdown by region was also interesting. The percentage hoping that Obama’s policies would work was by far lowest in the South (52 percent).)
That raises an obvious question: How do Republican hopes for an Obama failure compare to Democratic hopes for a failure by President Bush? I dug around a bit, and discovered that in August 2006, Fox News pollsters had asked that very question.
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Paul
December 30th, 2010
4:55 pm
Jay
When I read this “It turns out that CNN also asked that question after the 1994 takeover of the House by Newt Gingrich and the Republicans” I thought of last night’s roundtable discussion on Special Report with Brett Baier. Hosted by Chris Wallace, the question was, given there are many programs that do good for people, that aren’t riddled with waste, and given the magnitude of the cuts necessary absent tax increases, will Republicans go after those programs? Here’s part of Krauthammer’s answer:
““I think Republicans learned a lesson with what happened with the Gingrich revolution in ’94. The Republicans were so heady in those days they thought you could govern from Congress. And they had control of the House and the Senate and they could not. They were defeated. The President faced them down and he won reelection and essentially drove them out of town. I think the others need to understand that with controlling only one house the most they can do is containment.”
I understand your description of the Guard situation as much a condemnation of the system as anything, Your line “People just didn’t walk in off the street and join the Guard. MOST people, anyway.” is pretty much spot on. But just so those with faded memories or those with no memories understand, from my perspective the reality during Vietnam was
- if you had any way at all to stay in college to avoid the draft, you did it. Even if it meant studying overseas like another president just before Bush.
- if you couldn’t maintain some kind of a deferment, you tried to get in the Air Force or Navy so you wouldn’t see combat.
- if you had connections you got in the Guard. Those guys were generally envied. Guard units hardly ever got deployed.
- if you were a poor schmuck with no options you got drafted and went to ‘Nam.
- if you were absolutely nuts you got into the Navy, then volunteered for some of the most hazardous duty around, like Sen Kerry did.
As was said in the last thread, it was a different time. Standards of today of honoring the troops, welcoming them home, saying ‘thank you for your service’ were unknown. What was known was shouts of “babykiller!”, getting spat upon or ignored.
Which is why I have no patience for the “Bush avoided combat by…” No duh. As did hundreds of thousands of his countryment.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
4:56 pm
Some municipalities require that city employees live within the city limits.
That may be one reason that NYC salaries are higher than most would expect.
But hedge fund managers can live outside the city and only pay the work-in-city tax.
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
4:57 pm
It’s been a crazy year!
Hint: control plus sign to enlarge. control minus sign to shrink.
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 30th, 2010
4:59 pm
bjork
Proof positive there are more decent Americans then cynical ones…. Oprah 7.5 mill/Beck 2+ mill
—————
Proof positive there are 7.5 mill loser parasites in America.
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
4:59 pm
Southern Comfort – Barry is fair game for ridicule just like you guys dump on Bush. Which, BTW, Bush has more class in his little finger than Barry will in a life time. In case you don’t get it, it is mocking. Obama thought he had the answer to everyone’s prayer – the messiah. He has found out he does not, and he ain’t seen nothing yet.
Dusty
December 30th, 2010
5:00 pm
Ah Big Jim,
You asked: Why would anyone admit going to Burger King? Well…why would one NOT admit going to Burger King? Are you too proud or something?
I happen to like Burger KIng. A light thrifty lunch suits me fine. The service is good and prompt. The place is clean as a whistle. The customers mind their own business. I get a change from my usual environment.
Any more questions? OH yeah! My chicken burger had lettuce & tomatoes. As I mentioned before…very good!!
Doggone/GA
December 30th, 2010
5:01 pm
“how much money one has or makes has nothing to do with how much tax he “should” pay. “Should pay,” meaning you make much more than me and therefore you should pay more taxes than I, is a liberal/progressive ideology. Disagreeing with that is not side stepping anything.”
So, are we to take it then that you are in favor of a TRUE “flat tax” where each and every tax payer pays the exact same amount? What do you set that flat rate at? And don’t give a percentage, because a percentage…even a FLAT percentage…means the more you are worth THE MORE YOU HAVE TO PAY.
BADA BING
December 30th, 2010
5:01 pm
Why free wi-fi? It is not a right, nor a priviledge. It is a product and should be paid for. It is not free at Micky Ds or the airport. Someone is paying for it . It is built into the cost you pay. Frisco is a place that you can buy drugs, engage in risky behavior, and tried but was forbidden to distribute condoms to middle school kids. But, Lord have mercy, don’t let the kids get a toy in a Happy Meal ! Why don’t they compromise and put condoms in the Happy Meals?
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
5:02 pm
TaxPayer@4:44 pm
I have a business plan to sell water to Alabama and it involves BEER
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:02 pm
Dusty, concern not. People too lofty to go to Burger King don’t talk about it.
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
Oops! That was part 2. Here is Part 1.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
5:06 pm
Southern Comfort@4:53 pm
Maybe regressives see him that way. He saved their party from taking the entire blame for the fiasco that Bush got us into.
although with the miracles that Obama has worked I will reserve judgement
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:06 pm
Doggone – I don’t have a firm position on the tax system other than it stinks. Everyone who makes a wage should pay something, but we have about 47 percent or so who end up each year having paid no fed tax. And, I am completely against the theory that just because you have money you should give some of it to those who don’t. I’m not rich, but I am comfortable. I got it the American way, I worked for it. There is nothing stopping ANY American from doing the same.
Dusty
December 30th, 2010
5:06 pm
Go for it, PAUL. Bush wacking gets so tiresome. I do believe you have reached your saturation point. And haven’t we all! Well, most of us.
TaxPayer
December 30th, 2010
5:07 pm
I have a business plan to sell water to Alabama and it involves BEER
I had some thoughts along the lines of a Coors for Republicans. It would start with the finest Rocky Mountain yellow snow. After all, they do love their trickle down.
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:08 pm
TaxPayer, you a funny guy!
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
All this partisan bickering has to stop! Surely we can work together. Right?
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
“miracles that Obama has worked” – impressionable youth.
Southern Comfort
December 30th, 2010
5:11 pm
JReb
You may do it in mocking. As a Christian, I find it distasteful and downright disgusting. I don’t dump on Bush, nor do I dump on Obama. I have served in the Fed Gov’t under both of them, and I’m one of the ones who say they are two peas in the pod. From my vantage point, I haven’t seen much to distinguish the two of them. Frankly, Bush was somewhat better for fed employees in comparison to Obama.
As far as class, I don’t think either one of them has much class as they have both repeatedly lied to the American public. Liars have NO class in my book.
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:11 pm
Soothsayer – is that like saying, surely you Conservatives know the error of your ways.
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:11 pm
Dusty
I don’t mind honest criticism, but I do get a bit tired of people applying current standards to situations that took place decades (or hundreds of years) ago.
And I too enjoy the occasional Burger King or Jack in the Box. Usually order the value menu burger – it’s plenty for me for lunch – with no cheese or mayonnaise. Little adjustments like that make a huge difference in the calorie/fat gram department after a week or so.
BADA BING
December 30th, 2010
5:12 pm
Dusty, eat where you want. These people here won’t be happy unless you tell them you went to Whole Foods and bought free range beaver nuggets and organic, multi grain, fat free, vitamin enriched, sea salted, natural grass shoots.
Doggone/GA
December 30th, 2010
5:12 pm
“Everyone who makes a wage should pay something, but we have about 47 percent or so who end up each year having paid no fed tax.”
Your lack of compassion is duly noted: “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
John Kenneth Galbraith
“And, I am completely against the theory that just because you have money you should give some of it to those who don’t.”
Since no one is doing that, you can take you indignation and shove it.
“I’m not rich, but I am comfortable. I got it the American way, I worked for it. There is nothing stopping ANY American from doing the same.”
There is, but you are too “morally superior” to acknowledge, or worse, evey TRY to understand it. I too am comfortable, and I too worked for it. And I didn’t even have a husband to help ease the process. But I come to VERY different conclusions than do “modern conservatives” about those who were not able to do as well as I.
TaxPayer
December 30th, 2010
5:12 pm
Just trying to make a living the dog eat dog way so I don’t stand out in a Republican dominated crowd.
Pogo
December 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
It is hillarious to hear the whining progressives say that all that conservatives want is for Obama to fail. Of course we want him to fail. To follow the un-ending/progressive money spending orgy that he, Reid and Pelosi have been involved in in the last 2 years means certain failure for our country. When the shoe was on the other foot 3 years ago all one could hear from the left was how much they hoped Bush failed. Well, he did and how much better off are you for it? You voted in a Keynesian who basically stands for nothing and who is driving this country into the dirt.
Southern Comfort
December 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
NoCom @ 5:06
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
Hey TaxPayer
“Just trying to make a living the dog eat dog way”
eat dog? You may wanna try Dusty’s Burger King…..
TaxPayer
December 30th, 2010
5:14 pm
JohnnyReb,
I think your “idiot messiah” and “you ain’t seen nothin’ yet” talk is funny too.
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
5:15 pm
Now here’s how to get things done
TaxPayer
December 30th, 2010
5:16 pm
You may wanna try Dusty’s Burger King…..
I always wondered what that Angus beef really was.
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:16 pm
Southern Comfort – there you go getting all serious. The truth is, I think Obama is a well meaning person. I just profoundly disagree with his beliefs.
I don’t agree Bush lied. I trusted Bush, but not Obama. You can’t believe what Obama says, you must watch what he does. I do sincerely believe Bush has more class than Obama and represented the Office of President much better than has Obama.
TaxPayer
December 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
Perhaps Pogo will vote to get those roads paved.
josef nix
December 30th, 2010
5:19 pm
What’s wrong with Burger King? I like Dusty. I don’t buy everything on the menu at Burger King and I don’t buy everything on the menu at Dusty’s either.
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:21 pm
Doggone – you are correct. I have zero compassion for someone who sets on their butt but can get up for a handout. I don’t want or need the government taking my money to give to others. Instead, I will give it to that guy who tried, who continues to try, but for some reason can’t quite make it. I deplore Progressive ideology in this regard.
khc
December 30th, 2010
5:23 pm
what a world, folks on left want to give it away, folks on right are somewhat greedy…..wish someone from the middle would prevail without having to kiss arse for the two ends of the bell curve…..i wonder how successful a baseball or football team would be if top1% of team (1 or 2 players) make 23% of the team payroll? especially if they make a lot of big bad plays ie guys on wall st
TaxPayer
December 30th, 2010
5:24 pm
JohnnyReb,
Do you have a questionnaire for the people with their hands out. How else will you know if they tried hard enough to meet your minimum requirement for charitable giving. Then again, perhaps you trust Jim and Tammy Faye to make that determination for you.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
5:24 pm
TaxPayer@5:07 pm
Alabama is closer. Need to get HD involved for the beer delivery. And SoCo has the water rights to the Hooch.
I think I heard BK is adding nutria to the menu very high in protein
josef nix
December 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
SoCo
@ 5:11
Don’t you know you can’t say that, It’s right there on your birth certificate.
Seriously, though, I’m with you in the peas in a pod…
Doggone/GA
December 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
“I don’t want or need the government taking my money to give to others”
Then I take it you are against all forms of government subsidies for any and all businesses, farms, emerging technologies, health research, etc, etc, etc.
Gee, just THINK how much money we could save if the government stopped doing all that. I’ve already said your lack of compassion is noted, you don’t have to keep proving it.
AmVet
December 30th, 2010
5:26 pm
I never faulted George.
Lots of guys were trying to play any angle they could to get out of going.
I just found it a little ironic that the cons made him out to be the war hero while their (supposedly non-connected) goons smeared the real guys. I always admired how the GOP perfected some of those Nixon lessons.
And even without hamburgers, I am forever Dusty’s Dr. Pavlov…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfjU3_XOaA
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:27 pm
TaxPayer – I might not end up with a good batting average picking the right people to help, but I know I would do better than the government record.
It continues to amaze me that Progressives think they have the right to take from one to give to another. That’s immoral, unethical, and downright wrong.
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
Doggone – there you go trying to justify handouts/welfare by turning to government programs that control the economy.
And, stating my political positions does not show lack of compassion. You don’t know what I give or who I give it to.
Dusty
December 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
Well, dang, I was just getting ready to start a Burger King Bistro Club when PAUL shot the whole idea to pieces!! EAT DOG? Try Burger King?? Now what kind of talk is that for the kingly burgers?? Repent, Paul or I will say something mean about Texas (and that speeding ticket I got there)! Yes.
BADA BING–you have cured me of ever wanting to go to Whole Foods. Your list had dollar marks written all over it. My Scottish ancestry arose in distress. BEWARE! And thanks for your support in freedom of choice to eat, drink & be merry…just as I enjoy the lovely Burger King!! Happiness is a Whopper!!
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:33 pm
AmVet
“I just found it a little ironic that the cons made him out to be the war hero”
I’d venture to guess most of those types were the ones with faded memories or no memories.
“while their (supposedly non-connected) goons smeared the real guys.”
No kidding. They served, they got hit, they lost limbs, but if you disagreed with their current politics, suddenly they were secretly working for Ho Chi Minh.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
5:33 pm
JohnnyReb@5:21 pm
So how do you tell them apart?
Is the 20 year old guy out there working at BK 20 hours a week making minimum wage a better person in your book or the 55 yo father of 2 who has worked his whole career, gone to college, paid taxes just to have his job get shipped offshore he draws UI while looking for a job on the internet.
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:34 pm
Bada – great post on Whole Foods. I thank the good lord there are no whole foods on the south side of town. Otherwise, my challenge would be more than trying to convince my boss its a waste of money to buy Organic.
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
AmVet
Thanks for the CCR -
Uh, Dusty, Taxpayer was talking about ‘dog eat dog’ so I suggested he get outta that and move over to your Burger King for a proper burger……
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
5:37 pm
Alright! Alright! I can’t keep it in any longer! I’m voting for Sarah in 2012! Don’t hate me!
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:38 pm
Common Sense – there are multple levels of people needing help. Both of the two you describe probably need help of some type and it may not be money. As for those not to help, I would start with second generation and more welfare. Oh, but they will starve. You are cruel. No I’m not, and no they won’t. If faced with death or work, they will chose work.
Southern Comfort
December 30th, 2010
5:38 pm
JReb
You want to know how to tell if a politician is lying? Their lips are moving. I don’t trust any politician any farther than I can throw them. Also, I don’t wear my religious beliefs on my sleeves like some others do here, but I do take my beliefs seriously.
Both, Bush and Obama may mean well by their actions and policies, but they have both done a disservice to many Americans by their actions. I won’t stand in judgement of them, as it is my obligation to respect them as CIC. I just pray that this country heals from the division created by the two of them. I don’t think they’re solely responsible for the division, but they are mutually responsible for the recent amplification of those divisions.
Dusty
December 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
MAN IN COAT OF MANY COLORS KNOWN AS JOSEF,
Whatcha mean “I don’t buy anything on Dusty’s menu”? Huh? What menu? You aren’t going political on me, are you? On this blog? I bet you even shop at Whole Foods. Watch it or get thrown into the well AGAIN!!
Doggone/GA
December 30th, 2010
5:43 pm
“You don’t know what I give or who I give it to”
and I don’t care either
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
5:44 pm
JohnnyReb@5:38 pm
So bad choices by a generation condemn the future generations to poverty.
How do you feel about the EITC?
Food Stamps?
Workfirst program?
Free school lunches?
These are programs designed to assist children out of poverty but some here are totally against them as they require tax money to fund
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:44 pm
Southern Comfort – for what it’s worth, I’m not a blind supporter of Bush. There were several of his objectives on which I disagreed. I think his biggest mistake was not making Congress fund the war after having gotten support from everyone of them but Barry. Doing so would have forced some hard choices and our current situation possibly would be different.
As to religion, I have deep convictions but when I do go to church, I set in the back pew.
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
5:45 pm
If only we can elect a Republican in 2012, we can get back to this.
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:48 pm
Soothsayer 5:45
Do ya’ think a guy writing for “Centre for Research on Globalization” just might have an agenda?
josef nix
December 30th, 2010
5:50 pm
DUSTY
There you go again, misquoting me to serve your own nefarious ends…I never said I don’t buy ANYthing off your menu, I said I don’t buy EVERYTHING…d*mn, Girl, anybody who can quote Ecclesiaticus, Shakespeare, et al. from memory can’t be ALL bad,,,
And, no, I don’t shop at Whole Foods…they don’t carry possum and armadillo…
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:51 pm
Soothsayer
Well, on the same website the good professor also offered this:
“The Obama Enigma: Imperial Interventionism and Militarism”
So there ya’ have it -
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
5:51 pm
“Do ya’ think a guy writing for “Centre for Research on Globalization” just might have an agenda?”
Well, it’s not Conservative. I can tell you that much.
Dusty
December 30th, 2010
5:52 pm
AmVet @ 5:20 who said “I never faulted George.” (Bush that is)
Congratulations!! You have been elected President of the National Liars Club by unanimous consent. Just came over the wire. They couldn’t have found a more experienced man.
Keep up the good work, AmVet.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
5:52 pm
Soothsayer@5:45 pm
No wonder China loves us and our money
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:53 pm
Soothsayer
Like this line from the perfesser?
“And the Obama team is what can be called a soft neoconservative team, all devoted to maintaining the military-industrial complex, and all sold out with the ideology of permanent wars rather than permanent human progress.”
Golly, Bush is starting to look not so bad, eh?
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
5:53 pm
Common Sense – no, bad choices don’t necessarily condem future generations. But just giving money to bad actors contributes to generational failure. The bad actor needs to be dumped to make it on his own. His offspring needs help/education so as not to repeat the bad behaviour.
ETIC – I am not culturally neutral. People live in tribes, have from the beginning. All the government social engineering in the world won’t change that.
Food Stamps – should not be permanent. If they are constantly needed, another approach is in order. I have a problem with food stamp recipients who have a cell phone, big screen TV, designer jeans, and bling.
Free School lunches – the recent AJC report on the ATL schools included the percentages of students on the free meal program. Someone is lieing.
I am all for programs that lift people out of poverty. Problem is, most of those administered by the Feds don’t work. A handout is not lifting someone from poverty.
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:53 pm
Soothsayer 5:51
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
5:54 pm
josef nix @5:50 pm
And, no, I don’t shop at Whole Foods…they don’t carry possum and armadillo…
Do they carry nutria
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
5:55 pm
“The Obama Enigma: Imperial Interventionism and Militarism”
What? I don’t have that on mine. Those are Google ads at the bottom of the page. Global Research has no control over them.
USMC dawg
December 30th, 2010
5:55 pm
NYC Snow job: Slow clean up was Union protest…
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sanit_filthy_snow_slow_mo_qH57MZwC53QKOJlekSSDJK
BADA BING
December 30th, 2010
5:56 pm
Dusty you are on fire tonite. When did Burger King start serving a ‘Sassy Burger’? You want fries wid dat?
USMC dawg
December 30th, 2010
5:56 pm
$5 Gas Predicted Under Obama — What, No Pitchforks?
http://townhall.com/columnists/LarryElder/2010/12/30/$5_gas_predicted_under_obama_–_what,_no_pitchforks
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
5:57 pm
Paul: Obama is simply a continuation of Bush. I keep trying to tell everyone that who we elect or which party they come from makes absolutely no difference. They are nothing more than puppets controlled by corporations.
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:58 pm
Soothsayer
Here ya’ go
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13959
A Canadian professor of economics who’s been around a while who’s part of the ‘yeah I’m Canadian but I’m really French” contingent… you can almost place a sure bet he’d make Sprk Pelosi look like a neocon -
Paul
December 30th, 2010
5:59 pm
Soothsayer
I won’t go that far, but I do think the money emphasis to maintain the power base has a compromising influence.
Southern Comfort
December 30th, 2010
5:59 pm
$5 Gas Predicted Under Obama — What, No Pitchforks?
There’s a slight difference in predicting $5 gas and actually having to pay for $5 gas. I’m sure there will be a whole lot of protesting if gas does indeed go that high.
JReb
Come off the back pew.
The Church is within you. If you don’t completely agree with what you hear in that building, as long as you are true to your convictions and beliefs and God is with you, you’ll be ok.
USMC dawg
December 30th, 2010
5:59 pm
More Global Warming: NOW IT’S SNOWING — IN PHOENIX…
http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/2010/12/30/20101230phoenix-area-residents-report-snow-falling-valley.html
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
6:00 pm
USMC dawg: I would be looking for much higher than $5.00 a gallon within the next five years. 2006 is commonly accepted as the peak of World oil production. Now that China and India are coming on line, look for gas to go way up.
josef nix
December 30th, 2010
6:01 pm
common
You know what eludes me? How can so many of those talking about the cycle of poverty and the next generation be opposed to anything aimed at ending it by addressing the NEEDS of that next generation to get out of it…pull yourself up by your own bootstraps? By all means, but if you don’t have any boots from jump street, that’s pretty hard to do…folks go begruding the little b*ggers that measly USDA breakfast and lunch…a fr*kken box of milk and slap of grits or measly half an orange…ssshhhesh…food stamps? That’s more of a subsidy to the farmer, trucker, chain food store, etc and the workers there as it is to the welfare mother at the check out line…
And know what else is funny? I’ve made mention here before in the lighthearted good eats exchanges of the best macaroni and cheese being made from commodity cheese…amazing how many of those most opposed to government hand outs shared some pretty good recipes using it!
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
6:02 pm
Freak snowfall = no global warming. Got it! I certainly won’t worry about it any more.
Dusty
December 30th, 2010
6:02 pm
JOSEF..But but THE MENU! What menu?
Ah ha, “quote from memory”!! Yes, indeed. Now what did I do with that book?
You HAVE helped finish off Whole Foods. No possum or armadillo there. Those snobs! I bet they don’t even have chitlins..
USMC dawg
December 30th, 2010
6:02 pm
Obama Team Dysfunction Hurt Economic Policy, Book Excerpt Says:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/30/alters-the-promise-epilog_n_802866.html
josef nix
December 30th, 2010
6:03 pm
Common
Don’t know about nutria…we’ll have to ask Barry when he gets back from his trip abroad…
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
6:04 pm
Coal suppliers in China are bitching because the gov’t has placed the price too low for them to make a profit.
Guess the Chinese gov’t needs to take a few of them out and shoot them
Paul
December 30th, 2010
6:05 pm
josef
“How can so many of those talking about the cycle of poverty and the next generation be opposed to anything aimed at ending it by addressing the NEEDS of that next generation to get out of it…”
Quote of the day, IMHO -
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
6:07 pm
You’ll wonder where the yellow went!
Remember when life was simple?
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
6:08 pm
Josef, I’m not opposed to the free lunch program for those who truly qualify. My comment that someone was lieing was based on so many schools listed where the percentage of students on the program was near or at 100. If poverty is that wide spread in the ATL school system, problems are bigger than I think.
Even back in the 50’s when I was in grammar school, the lunch room had fed commodities including the cheese. Later, my mother would be the lunch room supervisor at a grammar school in Newnan. I remember well her telling me of the fed commodites she received to help with the lunch program.
Paul
December 30th, 2010
6:10 pm
Soothsayer
Just bought a couple tubes of Pepsodent yesterday. Wife prefers it -
Southern Comfort
December 30th, 2010
6:11 pm
josef @ 6:01
Standing Ovation!!!!!
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
6:11 pm
Southern Comfort – thanks for the kind words. It’s too deep and personal for here, so let me just say I can’t fill my father’s shoes as to which pew I belong.
josef nix
December 30th, 2010
6:12 pm
DUSTY
Bet they won’t have no hog jowls either…
Unmentionable came back from Publix with this one…he was at the New Year’s Day display of the traditional goodies and said that an illegal immigrant of the imperialist infidel horde was turning her nose up and says “do people REALLY eat this?” He says there was an old school blue-haired Buckhead doyenne turns to her and says ever so ladylike, “Yes ma’am, Miss Priss, we REALLY do. You’re a newcomer, aren’t you?” He says he whispered to her, “to the South AND to Buckhead..”
Dusty
December 30th, 2010
6:14 pm
BADA BING A Sassy burger? Hey, I like that. I will order one next time with spicy oo’la’la fries (but no french candy kisses!) Gotta be good!
Now off to my kitchen for momentous homecooked concoctions. (That gives you a clue as to why we eat out so happily.) Cheers!!
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
6:17 pm
Here’s to hog jowls and blackeyed peas. American by birth, Southern by the grace of God!
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
6:17 pm
JohnnyReb@6:08 pm
Even back in the 50’s when I was in grammar school, the lunch room had fed commodities including the cheese. Later, my mother would be the lunch room supervisor at a grammar school in Newnan. I remember well her telling me of the fed commodites she received to help with the lunch program.
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And that was when tax rates were higher and we had a higher percentage of employed people
And because many programs are based on INCOME the maximum UI benefits will not allow participation in these programs. Even if your ENTIRE UI check is used for rent, utilities and basic living expenses.
Yes the problem is larger than you think it is. (and thats just Atlanta). Look at some of the counties off the beaten track where unemployment is over 20% and funds have run out. It’s not a pretty sight.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
6:19 pm
josef nix@6:01 pm
you librul you
USMC dawg
December 30th, 2010
6:19 pm
OBAMA’s Car Czar, Steve Rattner, agrees to pay $10 MILLION to settle two lawsuits in which he is accused of PAYING KICKBACKS in order to win investment business:
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/rattner-settles-with-cuomo/?hp
Soothsayer
December 30th, 2010
6:20 pm
Good night everyone. Here’s a little something to tide you over until tomorrow night.
JohnnyReb
December 30th, 2010
6:20 pm
My boss will be home soon. Gotta run. Regards to all, even the misguided Progressives, bless their heart.
Dusty
December 30th, 2010
6:21 pm
JOSEF, good story!!
Here’s to SOUTHERN hog jowl and SOUTHERN back eyed peas!! Yayyy! Happy New Year!! And to all, a good night!
Paul
December 30th, 2010
6:21 pm
josef nix
That was great!
My favorite Publix memory was when I was in line behind an elderly couple. They had only a couple items, the cashier put them in a bag and asked, “Sir, would you like help out with your bag?” He said, “No thanks, she walks just fine all by herself.” The women grinned and whacked his shoulder and he walked away chuckling.
I bet it was like that for the previous 50 years -
Paul
December 30th, 2010
6:22 pm
g’night Soothsayer – have a good one -
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 30th, 2010
6:22 pm
I hope you mean the Progressive republicans too
josef nix
December 30th, 2010
6:22 pm
Johnny…
Free and Reduced lunch eligibility is determined by number of persons in the household and household income. Yes, there are many schools where virtually all are eligible. You say the problems are bigger…yes, they are.
Now, my own commodity cheese story. One of my neighbors came by one day with a gift…it was a nice sized chunk of commodity cheese. His sister in Texas had UPS’d a big block of it she got during a handout following a flood in her area. I almost forgave him for belonging to the Piedmont Driving Club!