After an $182 billion taxpayer bailout, Atlas shrugs

I continue to be amazed at the smug arrogance displayed by Wall Street types who came close to bringing down civilization as we have known it and now bitch and complain that they aren’t being appreciated enough.

Poor babies. Even the biggest bonuses ever paid apparently aren’t enough to soothe their hurt feelings.

Until now, my favorite example of the phenomenon was one Anthony Scaramucci, the hedge fund manager who complained publicly to President Obama that he and his fellow Wall Streeters were tired of being “whacked with a stick.” This, after news had broken that Wall Street’s top 25 hedge fund managers had an average income of $1 billion each in 2009, and that total bonuses on the Street this year were likely to set a record.

For comparison’s sake, Facebook made news recently when it announced that its total revenues this year may hit $2 billion. That’s right. Facebook’s total revenues — not profits, revenues — may equal the average income of just two of the top 25 hedge fund managers.

However, I would now like to nominate a new champion of grandiose self-pity in the person of one Robert Benmosche, CEO of AIG. You may recall AIG as Ground Zero of the financial meltdown, the beneficiary of an estimated $182 billion federal bailout.

Benmosche was brought in to lead the company after the meltdown and bailout, and to his credit has helped lead AIG to recovery. As he says in today’s Wall Street Journal:

“I was wondering if I might get a call from someone saying maybe ‘you were right,’ because we look better than we did last May and we can see the finish line from here, and it comes with a profit for the taxpayers. But as I learned in [Ayn Rand's book] ‘Atlas Shrugged,’ find your Thank Yous from within.”

Ayn Rand…? Really?

An investment of $180 billion in federal money helps rescue the company, and this guy sees himself as the hero in an Ayn Rand novel, a testament to the virtue of the independent businessman making it on his own? And he wants people to call him and thank him for it?

Personally, I think the guy ought to grab a telephone and start calling the hundreds of millions of American taxpayers who made his company’s success possible. But since that’s not likely to happen, I guess we’ll all just have to shrug our shoulders and find our thank yous from within.

– Jay Bookman

577 comments Add your comment

Normal

December 29th, 2010
2:11 pm

Maybe if we just quit feeding them, they will go away…

LeAnne

December 29th, 2010
2:13 pm

Excellent Jay. I’m thanking myself as I type…

Dudley

December 29th, 2010
2:19 pm

It’s amazing that people can make that kind of money

carlosgvv

December 29th, 2010
2:31 pm

Some people born into wealthy families go to the best prep schools, the best universities and the best law and business schools. They form a privilidged “good ole boy” network and assume that the world exists for them and must always cater to their needs. Understanding this helps to understand that they will always put themselves first and will always think their wants, their needs, and their wishes take priroity.

Paul

December 29th, 2010
2:32 pm

Ego, ego, ego. It’s incredible.

I’ll predict the hedge fund managers’ income will go even higher. Why? Petroleum futures. The talk from the Shell Oil guy about $5 a gallon gasoline? Hedge funds and speculators will make sure it happens. Profits will soar.

And the managers will have ‘earned’ their bonuses.

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
2:32 pm

He might want to take his mentor’s advice…

“It is not advisable, James, to venture unsolicited opinions. You should spare yourself the embarrassing discovery of their exact value to your listener. ” –Atlas Shrugged

BULLSEYE

December 29th, 2010
2:34 pm

We the people just gave Benmosche a nice tax cut exemption. Now let’s see him pass through the eye of a needle.

Mary Elizabeth

December 29th, 2010
2:39 pm

Josef -

I left you a message on the “transition from general to arms salesman post” at 2:19 p.m. today.
I was gone yesterday afternoon and this a.m.

Adam and Paulo977 -

I, also, left you both a message on that same post to Josef.

Granny Godzilla

December 29th, 2010
2:42 pm

ahh…Ayn Rand and “the Collective”…..

I think he ought to grab a telephone and frankly….stick it where the sun don’t shine – sideways.

and make it one of those big old fashioned pay telephones

in fact the whole booth!

Soothsayer

December 29th, 2010
2:42 pm

Boy, Jay! You’re just crankin’ these blogs out like a sausage factory on steroids. Don’t worry, I won’t spoil this one. I have very important studying I have to do.

Dave

December 29th, 2010
2:44 pm

If I remember correctly, there were a lot of people who didn’t buy into the whole “too big to fail” concept being used as an excuse to bail them out with our money and would have preferred to see them fail. I just find it ironic that the Dems, in particular, endorsed the bailout with one side of their mouth while continuing to demonize them (class warefare) out the other side of their mouth. Of course, bailing them out is just another way to regulate them.

TaxPayer

December 29th, 2010
2:46 pm

Do I detect a case of Atlas envy!

AmVet

December 29th, 2010
2:49 pm

What?

No wry observations by the fiscally irresponsible conservatives regarding the evil government?

Who, with the blessings of the all powerful Barney Frank, created the economic meltdown, thus causing these poor billionaires so much anguish and suffering.

It seems like I’m forgetting the other causation factor….

Oh yes! ACORN…

Dave

December 29th, 2010
2:50 pm

… and let’s not forget appointing Wall Street executives administration posts, etc. I guess they don’t hate them as much as they say they do…

Dusty

December 29th, 2010
2:52 pm

Sigh…more wealth envy. I wish Bookman would get a raise. Too much here about poor folks telling rich folks how to reduce their riches.

Jimmy62

December 29th, 2010
2:53 pm

That guy is a tool.

What is ridiculous to me is how Goldman Sachs was as much or more involved in all this junk than any other group. And what happened to the Goldman Sachs leadership? Now they run Treasury and are embedded in Obama’s cabinet. Hank Paulson should be in jail. And Goldman Sachs should be a bankrupt relic of history.

What most people fail to understand is that the bailouts and TARP did not solve any of the problems. All they did was transfer the risk from the financial companies to the taxpayer. All those bad debts are a time bomb that will destroy our economy and the dollar. Watch what the big guys are doing. They deny upcoming failure while moving all their own money to foreign currencies.

It’s coming, and it’s gonna be worse than you ever could have imagined. Within 2 years max, the US will face a crisis that dwarfs anything seen before. Your worst nightmares come true. And all because our political leadership (both parties) was too in bed with the financial sector to let them take the haircut. Instead our 234 year old country is going to take the haircut, and it may never recover.

Just remember this in two years. I know most of you are poo-pooing my doomsday scenario. So two years from now when you realize how right I was, learn the lesson. Conventional wisdom is almost always wrong. If the masses are saying one thing, go the other way. If the big guys are going out of their way to deny something, you can be sure it’s going to happen, And most of all, whatever Paul Krugman says is bound to be wrong. Look at his history, he sure ain’t been right about much.

stands for decibels

December 29th, 2010
3:01 pm

When he met recently with a group of CEOs at Blair House, there was no representative from any of the six biggest banks in America.

So, he wanted to meet with individuals whose companies actually produce something of value, instead?

Dusty

December 29th, 2010
3:04 pm

Jimmy62,

Buck up, man. The sky is not falling yet. You are absolutely correct to be worried but nobody wants this country to go bankrupt. Ever hear about the last depressison of 1929? You know who was jumping out of windowns on the 29th floor? It was the rich guys. They lost everything too, you know.

The last thing we need is everybody giving up and crying. You still hve the best opportunites in the world. Moaning a& groaning is not the best way to improve things.

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
3:05 pm

Wall street brokers should market the shares of
companies that want to sell part of the ownership.
Nothing more.

Granny Godzilla

December 29th, 2010
3:07 pm

Dusty

I don’t see it as wealth envy.

We don’t envy the wealthy. We have all we need and more than we ever thought we’d have. Mr.G and I and our family worked hard enough to get ahead, but managed to have a boatload of fun along the way.

We were always married to each other and the kids and critters – never our business. Turns out that it was worth more than his billions.

I believe the appropriate cliche is…

He’s looking a gift horse in the mouth.

Paul

December 29th, 2010
3:07 pm

This is gonna get bloody – the next debate over federal bailouts – for states.

“Secret GOP plan: Push states to declare bankruptcy and smash unions”

http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 29th, 2010
3:08 pm

Make money the old fashioned way: Become a robber baron

MJ Murray

December 29th, 2010
3:09 pm

I agree with you, Jay, but I’m despairing of anything changing. Oh, there’s that ‘c’ word again. Haven’t seen much of it, and have to agree with Jimmy62. If the currency would be worth anything, I’d be stuffing my mattress. May in yuans?

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
3:11 pm

Mary Elizabeth
Left you a message downstairs and another at your “about ME” page on your blog…thanks…

Southern Comfort

December 29th, 2010
3:14 pm

Paul

Interesting read. It’s thosed darned Unions!!!!

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
3:16 pm

DUSTY

This is not a case of wealth envy. There is a point that it becomes obscene. This pack has long since passed it. Don’t even try and defend this and claim you have a moral compass at the same time. I know that’s strong language to someone I respect and like, but seriously…

Dusty

December 29th, 2010
3:22 pm

Ohh strong language, dear JOSEF…I respect and like you too but but but…there are so many things, people , etc to blame for the USA financial problems, it is hardly fair to single out men in the stocks & bonds and banking business. Have YOU sold all your stocks & bonds to show these money/blood suckers how much you despise them? Has Bookman done the same?

For some reason, I doubt it. Does that mean that justice has not been served? Well, has it? If one must preach about the evils of others, at least stop doing business with them.

Southern Comfort

December 29th, 2010
3:22 pm

josef @ 3:16

No disrespect to Dusty intended, but you just wasted energy posting that. People who see what Jay posted as wealth envy will see that no matter what you or anyone else says. It doesn’t matter that this “Christian nation” was almost permanently crippled by the greed of a few arrogant pricks such as the one Jay mentions. Those people dont’ give a sh*t about America. All they care about is how much money they can make.

As one poster said, I want to see him pass thru the eye of a needle.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 29th, 2010
3:24 pm

Robert Benmosche, CEO of AIG.

A perfect example of the “entitlement mentality”. It’s just the one that we don’t hear about, so much.

Del

December 29th, 2010
3:25 pm

The money these guys make is indeed obscene but it explains how they’re able to give so much money to Obama and the DNC.

stands for decibels

December 29th, 2010
3:27 pm

Interesting read. It’s thosed darned Unions!!!!

I suspect the GOP is going to learn that the average American voter thinks rather more of organized labor than your average 2010 mid-term voter.

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
3:30 pm

DUSTY
I am not opposed to the good life. Our portfolio reflects our principles in this household. So, yes, I put my money where my mouth is. There’s comfort, there’s wealth, and there’s obscenity. The ones we are talking about here are obscene and worse still, proud of it. There are plenty of uberrich who do NOT fall into this category.

SoCo
That is why I used the term moral compass. It’s much like those who, when you criticise or disagree with the President, jerk and call you a racist. Criticise the likes of Benmosche and it must be wealth envy.

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
3:31 pm

Hillbilly

Been missing you hereabouts…good Christmas? I hope…

Southern Comfort

December 29th, 2010
3:31 pm

dB

Especially when you note the decline in organized labor in relation to the stagnation and lowering of wages in the US.

Paul

December 29th, 2010
3:32 pm

SoCom

My thought it’s local politicians who buy votes and defer pain ’cause they know they won’t be in office. It worked well for both sides, until the day of reckoning.

I’d posted here a couple articles from Ft Worth – lavish pensions for police and firefighters, moreso than other gov’t employees. City wanted to readdress, response was “sorry, we have a contract.” Then city leaders began speculating in public about what would happen if the city went bankrupt. Surprise, surprise… the police and firefighters said “maybe we could readdress a few things…”

Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised if Reps did force the issue – and if Democrats lambasted them in public but in private said “thank heavens we don’t have to do that.”

jconservative

December 29th, 2010
3:33 pm

Robert Benmosche needs to stop complaining, we let him keep his tax cuts when the Senate & House passed the extension of the Bush tax cuts.
What’s his beef?

Southern Comfort

December 29th, 2010
3:34 pm

josef

I still say it’s a lost cause. Those who see your criticism as wealth envy will continue to do so, regardless. It’s the same as those who claim racism or sexism at the drop of a hat without regard for the context of the critique.

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
3:34 pm

What do these high earners do with their salaries?
Invest it? Bank it? Wall safe? Mattress? Spend it?
Like a dog chasing it’s tail I bet they invest it and
don’t do any better than the rest of the public. Big
houses, big boats, big cars probably not so much.
Part of why we have no jobs for the unemployed.

Fred

December 29th, 2010
3:38 pm

Dusty

December 29th, 2010
2:52 pm

Sigh…more wealth envy. I wish Bookman would get a raise. Too much here about poor folks telling rich folks how to reduce their riches.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

That was particularly insipid Dusty. Wealth Envy? Please explain that.

The guy gets 184 BILLION TAX DOLLARS and he wants US to be grateful to HIM? He shouyld be sharing a cell with Nathan Deal.

I’ll tell you one thing, give ME 184 billion and i won’t be complaining about a damn thing.

Southern Comfort

December 29th, 2010
3:38 pm

Paul

At some point, politicians will have to quit using public employees as their scapegoats. I understand what you’re saying, especially with the example you posted. However, the start and end of the problem is the elected officials whom we elect to make those decisions in the first place.

I wish there was a way to make the elected officials do the work of the public employees while they’re in office. Make the mayor run into a burning building to save someone. Make the city councilman pull someone over at 3am on a dark road by themselves. Make that county commissioner sit behind that glass at the DMV and get cussed out for 8 hrs a day. Then, maybe they would make good decisions in the first place instead of kicking the problems down the road for someone else.

Paul

December 29th, 2010
3:39 pm

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
3:39 pm

SoCo…
That is true, but as you know, I’m the eternal optimist!

frog
Back when the meltdown started, I was talking to my brother the broker and asked him what he thought we ought to do with the money..his response “you’ve still got some? Put it in the mattress!”

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 29th, 2010
3:40 pm

josef

Thanks, it was a good one. I don’t care for snow, though. :lol: Just been pretty busy with the real world.

Paul

December 29th, 2010
3:41 pm

SoCom

Yeah, plenty of blame to go around.

Take out public sector unions and we’d still have a huge problem. Too many gov’t officials have a measure of success of “nice things we do for ourselves.”

All with someone else’s money.

Fred

December 29th, 2010
3:41 pm

Southern Comfort

December 29th, 2010
3:22 pm

As one poster said, I want to see him pass thru the eye of a needle.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I’d rather see him through the crosshairs of a scope……….

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
3:42 pm

FRED
Give ME $184B and you won’t hear a peep out of me…shoot, give me $184.00 today and I’ll be happy, time to pay off the Ghost of Christmas Past!

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
3:43 pm

Hillbilly
The real world? Ignore it, it’ll go away…

Southern Comfort

December 29th, 2010
3:45 pm

Exactly, Paul… Everybody will have to make sacrifices and adjustments. Not just one group of people are responsible for this mess.

Fred

That would let him off too easy.

Kamchak

December 29th, 2010
3:45 pm

“But as I learned in [Ayn Rand's book] ‘Atlas Shrugged,’ find your Thank Yous from within.”

God—what an asshat.

Pleaseopleaseoplease go Galt.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 29th, 2010
3:45 pm

Think we’ll be hearing about the right of former state retirees to received their contractual pensions obligations with the same fevor as the protecting the salaries of CEOs?

Fletch

December 29th, 2010
3:45 pm

Oh man, enough with the wealth envy crap! My partners and I can be considered to be wealthy and comfortable. We took the risks along with the rewards, and hopefully through fair treatment of our employees and our giving back to the community, we will be considered to be good stewards of our fortune. However, NO ONE is worth 1 billion dollars in pay. I don’t care if you cure cancer and invent a machine that makes gold out of poop.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 29th, 2010
3:45 pm

Make the city councilman pull someone over at 3am on a dark road by themselves.

Who knows, he might be pulling over one of his inebriated colleagues, if past history is any guide. ;-)

Fred

December 29th, 2010
3:46 pm

I’m with you josef. Last time I worked for someone else, they gave out bonuses for Christmas. They ranged from 50-$100. People were actually complaining about it. i was like,”Cool!!!!!!!!! Free money.”

Fred

December 29th, 2010
3:47 pm

Fletch

December 29th, 2010
3:45 pm

………………….and invent a machine that makes gold out of poop……………………

With a machine like that, I’d be a billionaire in half a day……….

Southern Comfort

December 29th, 2010
3:48 pm

Keep @ 3:45

Hell NO!!!

Fletch

December 29th, 2010
3:49 pm

Fred – With a machine like that, I’d be a billionaire in half a day……….

Thats fine, just act like a decent human being rather than an elite assbag, and you’ll have my full support.

Fred

December 29th, 2010
3:50 pm

Trust me Fletch, I’d have more than enough to pass around……………

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 29th, 2010
3:50 pm

Fletch…Beck sells gold in exchange for listening to his poop, so you are suggesting cutting out the middleman and going direct I guess.

Fletch

December 29th, 2010
3:50 pm

Fred – Trust me Fletch, I’d have more than enough to pass around……………

LOL my friend!

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
3:51 pm

Paul, the grinch came back,08,09,10 I hope next year
we won’t see him again.

Fletch

December 29th, 2010
3:54 pm

Keep – so you are suggesting cutting out the middleman and going direct I guess.

LOL! I just use that as an example. It completely amazes me that there would be anyone that would defend the type of behaviour outlined above. It’s not about wealth envy, it’s not even about envy in general. It’s more like pure disgust and loathing.

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
3:56 pm

josef, the broker’s question ‘you still have some?’ indicates
my point. just like many casino employees gamble away
their earnings.

Del

December 29th, 2010
4:00 pm

Jay, this afternoon thread doesn’t have much fire going either. You may want to consider something on global warming since the snow and arctic air is gone at least for now. Palin and Gingrich got worked over pretty much yesterday, maybe Romney or Mike Huckabee.

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
4:00 pm

What chaps my tuchus with Benmosche is not even the $1B, but that he would have the chutzpah to kvetch!

frog…
Brother…gone to his eternal reward now…had three passions in life, making money, bridge, and gambling…he said that they were all three one and the same and a matter of the luck of the draw and knowing how to quit when you’re ahead…

RW-(the original)

December 29th, 2010
4:00 pm

I’m sorry but this is absolutely wealth envy because we all know the dividing line for where the left thinks you become part of the evil rich is 200K a year. What better way to promote the hatred of people at that level than to pick out the top 25 hedge fund managers and stir the masses with them.

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 29th, 2010
4:01 pm

AmVet@2:49 pm

Who, with the blessings of the all powerful Barney Frank, created the economic meltdown, thus causing these poor billionaires so much anguish and suffering.
—————————-

Cynicism doesn’t become you.

Me yes, you no LOL

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
4:01 pm

Del

Well, there’s still abortion and evolution. I vote for evolution and with a nice graph and some charts!

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
4:03 pm

Del,

If Romney is the GOP candidate, will his platform
be ‘I”m gonna take my healthcare program back.’

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
4:03 pm

RW
Normally I would agree with you, but in this case, I can’t…it’s precisely this lot that give those with a moral compass a bad name….like Barney Frank, they don’t speak well for their people… :-)

Real Scooter

December 29th, 2010
4:04 pm

Well,y’all can dislike Robert Benmosche all you want but as for me,I wish he was my daddy! :grin:

RW-(the original)

December 29th, 2010
4:04 pm

I vote for evolution and with a nice graph and some charts!

I vote for abortion with charts and graphs.

Paul

December 29th, 2010
4:04 pm

RW-(the original)

As I understand it, hedge funds invest in all sorts of stuff – commodities, bets on lawsuits, you name it, they bet on it. Some get some pretty high returns, so instead of a management fee of a percent or so some charge around 20 percent. Hence their compensation.

My problem is what I see as market manipulation – like the last runup in petroleum prices. Frankly, I’d be happy to see some products off limits for speculators. The other problem I have is for all their billions, they pay absolutely no income tax. And both parties let them get away with it.

Bribes in the form of campaign contributions have a mighty persuasive effect.

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
4:04 pm

josef 4:00 I agree with brother..better to be lucky than smart..

Jimmy62

December 29th, 2010
4:05 pm

To the responses to my earlier post: I don’t want the United States to fail. I want us to get back to being the most powerful economy on Earth, the one all other countries envy. But when it comes down to it, I gotta look after myself before I look after the country, and our politicians have done everything they can to devalue our currency. Actions have consequences, and their refusal to let failures fail is going to put the US in far worse position than any part of the Great Depression. They deny, deny, deny, but just wait. It doesn’t matter who is elected, who is running Congress. It’s too late. We took on too much debt of our own, and then took on the financial sector’s debt as well. And the solution the politicians came up with? Print more money.

You can delay the reckoning for a while, but you can’t make all those debts disappear. When the country falls apart, I’m going to be ok because I have a diversified portfolio that almost completely eschews the dollar. But the average investor will lose all their savings and have nothing left, and probably no job either. It sucks, and I’m not happy about it. But if even one person out of 1,000 heeds my warning, maybe a few people will be ok.

Kamchak

December 29th, 2010
4:05 pm

…because we all know…

Can a day go by without someone assuming authority that they don’t have?

Del

December 29th, 2010
4:05 pm

josef,

There you go… I missed on those. I did a few jobs around the house and came back hoping for a little fire and brimstone but those topics would get things going.

Paul

December 29th, 2010
4:06 pm

barking frog

It ought to be “I served the people of Massachusetts and brought forth programs they wanted. I’ll do the same for all citizens as President.”

IF the ideologues who control the primaries can figure that out, I’ll be amazed.

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 29th, 2010
4:08 pm

The problem is hedge fund managers never evolve from whale shyt

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 29th, 2010
4:11 pm

My problem is what I see as market manipulation – like the last runup in petroleum prices.

I’m guessing we’re fixing to see that again, shortly.

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
4:11 pm

Paul

December 29th, 2010
4:06 pm
—————————-
I believe he will be the man. Huckabee #2.

Paul

December 29th, 2010
4:13 pm

Benmosche is the guy on the left. Problem is, he really doesn’t get it. But some of us do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsyS0oHLNFA

Del

December 29th, 2010
4:13 pm

Barking frog,
He can try saying that his successors messed it up. Many politicians use that excuse. One in particular uses it profusely.

Southern Comfort

December 29th, 2010
4:14 pm

The problem is hedge fund managers never evolve from whale shyt

If that sh*t comes from a sperm whale, it could be pretty valuable. Ambergris is secreted by the sperm whale, either thru vomit or sh*t. Just sayin….

Paul

December 29th, 2010
4:15 pm

barking frog

Wonder how all those Baptists will feel about their minister playing second fiddle to the Mormon. But, y’know, Huckabee supporting him may just overcome the prejudice of many fundamentalists and evangelicals and ignorant people.

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
4:18 pm

Paul, that is exactly the reason he will be #2 No one
else will help the ticket as much.

Del

December 29th, 2010
4:19 pm

Paul,

Guess you don’t know too many Baptists. Many of us felt that Romney would have been the best nominee.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 29th, 2010
4:19 pm

Leave the whales out of it…hedge fund managers evolve from much lower down the slime scale….about the same place as those who use religion to pray on little old ladies. More likely the stuff a dung beetle leaves behind because even dung beetles have standards

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
4:19 pm

Del

December 29th, 2010
4:13 pm
——————————–
Yep, he’ll take it back and fix it.

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
4:21 pm

PAUL
@ 4:13
That’s a good one!

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
4:21 pm

Keep, geez hedge fund managers hire lawyers too, ya know..

Paul

December 29th, 2010
4:23 pm

Del

I know a number. Some in my own family, and from what they told me the last election, well, it was pretty disappointing.

I trust those who have a better understanding of the misrepresentations take the time to correct those who make ignorant comments. Heck, I’ve done it in the Episcopal Church.

Del

December 29th, 2010
4:25 pm

barking frog, I don’t think it will be Romney. The GOP needs a fresh face with a youthful appearance and charisma. Rubio comes to mind, however, he doesn’t have the political track record. Of course Obama didn’t either.

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
4:26 pm

Just so long as they don’t choose a Jew…we got enough problems already! :-)

RW-(the original)

December 29th, 2010
4:26 pm

Not saying there haven’t been some odd tickets before, but after watching the 2008 primaries I just don’t see Romney and Huckabee running together. A steel cage match maybe.

TaxPayer

December 29th, 2010
4:27 pm

Is Dusty the original stepford wife. That regurgitation of her’s is flawless.

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 29th, 2010
4:28 pm

The funny thing about some hedge funds. They have computer generated models to follow.

But you never hear about the guys doing the work in the trenches getting huge bonuses. Just the guys at the top who acted on the information provided. I guess the figure that they earned the large bonuses, kind of like the CEOs raking in the big bucks while delegating all the work to others.

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
4:29 pm

josef nix

December 29th, 2010
4:26 pm
——————————————
Leberman may show up again…

barking frog

December 29th, 2010
4:31 pm

Romney bit the bullet for McCain, he will be rewarded as
McCain was for helping GW. GOP is an elephant they
never forget..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 29th, 2010
4:32 pm

Gnatbreath (Frog)….yes, lots of slime hire lawyers. They can get their day in court. You dont have to love them to take their money. Just because something may be legal does not necessarily equate it to smart business.

Del

December 29th, 2010
4:35 pm

TaxPayer, your timing may be good with your 4:27 post. I don’t think Dusty’s on the thread. She’s pretty good with the come back, so look out for possible incoming.