Gingrich, Palin have no shot at being GOP presidential nominee
She can kiss dreams of the White House goodbye.
Bill Kristol, the Fox News analyst and Weekly Standard editor, made a couple of predictions on Fox News Sunday about the GOP presidential race:
“Can I go out on a limb, since everyone else is scared to say — actually make any predictions. I predict Palin will not run. I have no knowledge at all; I just have the hunch that she ultimately will not run.
I think Newt Gingrich is underestimated. Newt is going to run and Newt will be formidable. People can talk about the baggage, but lots of candidates have had lots of baggage, and people think they’re the right guy for the job, he could do better — and I do think — than people expect.”
Kristol has been an advocate for Palin in the past, so his prediction about her candidacy is interesting in that light. I also think he’s correct. Palin has peaked politically, and will be taken less and less seriously from here on out. A year from now, she’ll be considered little more than a curiosity. Public Policy Polling — admittedly, a Democratic-leaning polling firm — says that even in Alaska, her popularity has plummeted. Only 33 percent of her home-state voters now see her favorably, while 58 percent have an unfavorable impression of their former half-term governor. Among Alaska independents, 65 percent rate her unfavorably, and only 25 percent have a favorable opinion. In fact, of the 10 states surveyed by PPP, only Massachusetts gave Palin a lower favorability rating than Alaska.
Been there, done that, next joke please.
Sorry, no nomination for you, either.
On Gingrich, however, I think Kristol’s dead wrong. Like Kristol, I now believe that Gingrich will probably run, and his glib tongue will ensure he gets media coverage. But in general, people don’t like Newt and people don’t trust him, and people want to like and trust their president. And in Newt’s case, the more exposure he gets on the campaign trail, the less he’ll be liked and trusted. He is not a person who wears well over time.
I wouldn’t care to guess at this point who the GOP nominee will be. It just won’t be either of these two, and for that fact the country and the Republican Party ought to be thankful.
– Jay Bookman
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Scout
December 28th, 2010
9:41 pm
Some of you may remember the last time someone from the same party tried to unseat a first term president. It was way back when Ted Kennedy tried to unseat Carter.
I wish I could post the political cartoon that “Oliphant” (Washington Post) drew concerning the subject.
Basically it showed Ted Kennedy driving a big black limo with Carter in the back seat (and a very worried look on his face). However, he (Carter) was wearing his aqua-lung and diving mask ……………………. He was ready in case they went off the bridge ……………………….
Scout
December 28th, 2010
9:43 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight ! :
Listen carefully (I’m whispering now ……… softly, verrrrry softly) ……….. there is something on there he doesn’t want known.
Mick
December 28th, 2010
9:45 pm
scout
Carter and kennedy, they made reagan into a contender…
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
9:47 pm
Damn Dawg ‘88@9:10 pm
Hit the picket line and give your job to someone not so focused on one issue.
I’m not saying it’s not important but there are a few other issues facing the US.
Mick
December 28th, 2010
9:48 pm
scout
I’ll play along….list some of the things on a long form that one would not want known..for example, was it a club foot?
Scout
December 28th, 2010
9:53 pm
Mick:
Nope. If you can’t figure it out I’m not gonna say it. Just think. You’ll come up with it.
Scout
December 28th, 2010
9:54 pm
This still makes me cry ………… sniff, sniff :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw4v9wMvTwA
RW-(the original)
December 28th, 2010
9:54 pm
Technically speaking GHWB had a Republican primary opponent in 1992. Pat Buchanan picked up over 20% of the primary vote. There were also the regular cast of fringe candidates that show up on both sides every time out.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
9:54 pm
His father was Osama Bin Laden?
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
9:54 pm
Scout…listen carefully… your part of the 20%…that makes you a complete Orly. No matter what he provides it wont be enough for you crazies. You have no evidence and yet you keep dancing with new claims any time the last claim is disproven. Again…the challenge is not to lie any more and to make claims you can’t prove. Provide a single piece of reliable credible evidence.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
9:55 pm
josef: I think, Clinton knew that Romulus and Remus were mythological…
Silly, Romulus and Remus are the core planets of the ROmulan Empire. DUUUUH!
LBB: Somehow, the libbtard-anointed genius that is Obama is consistently wrong.
And yet consistently successful. Sounds like how you move up the ranks in business! And you call this guy anti-business…. scoff.
Dave R: How many actual pro-growth ideas were brought to a vote, Mick?
Actually quite a few. Although some of them were blocked by the shadow filibuster manuever. I can’t wait until the Senate overturns that nonsense.
They got the message sent on Nov. 2nd. Everything must be paid for. No more expansion of programs unless there are revenue streams or cuts to pay for them.
Then I assume by the fact you have included revenue streams you support… GASP… raising taxes?
@@: Not sure what it is about Gingrich that irritates you so, jay.
Oh I can think of something….
As for Dawg ’88’s post… that actually makes me support him more. I am Pro Choice and not ashamed of that.
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
9:55 pm
Common….let’s get real…his father was Darth Vader.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
9:55 pm
Keep up: You have no evidence and yet you keep dancing with new claims any time the last claim is disproven.
Moving the goalposts!
WillieRae
December 28th, 2010
9:57 pm
Palin does make the libs uniquely craaaaazy. I sort of wonder what it is that so gets under their skin. One thing for sure, the more the libs go foaming-at-the-mouth-bat-crap-nuts, the more the rest of the country sees them as a little unhinged. No wonder.
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
9:58 pm
Adam…we aren’t even in the stadium anymore. The bus is pulling away and Scout is in the shower crying that he can find a goalpost, if only…..
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
9:59 pm
“Actually quite a few.”
Nice answer. Lacking specifics to back up the claim, however, Adam.
And yes, I do support raising taxes, but only AFTER providing significant cuts in spending FIRST to show you’re serious. Trust, but verify works with government as well, but they don’t get another dime from me until they do some serious cutting.
Kamchak
December 28th, 2010
10:01 pm
PalinSnowbilly Snooki does make the libsuniquely craaaaazyuproariously amused.Fixed your typos.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
10:02 pm
Keep, not joining the fray but as you know the absence
of evidence of guilt is not evidence of the absence of guilt..
Adam
December 28th, 2010
10:04 pm
Dave R: That’s somewhat fair, but like I said I don’t exactly trust that spending cuts FIRST, then tax increases would actually happen, since tax raising is something the GOP NEVER goes for willingly. EVER.
Putting that aside for the moment, lets say it would work and each side would hold up their end of the bargain. What spending cuts would you make, and then how much would you raise taxes?
As for specifics on the pro-growth measures, it is again not my responsibility to give you all the specifics of well documented stuff.
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
10:04 pm
Oh, and Adam? The Senate will never overturn the filibuster rule. Their role is that of a saucer cooling the overflow of the partisan House, and they know their role well.
And personally, I don’t think it is used enough. Gridlock is America’s friend when Congress is in session.
Mick
December 28th, 2010
10:05 pm
Sorry scout not familiar with long form birth certificates….
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
10:05 pm
Frog….there is lots of evidence to support Obama’s birth in Hawaii…NOT a single piece of credible evidence to suggest otherwise. This is not an absence of evidence. This is an effort to counter the substantial proof on Obama’s side. The absence of evidence to contradict what has been proven does not call into question what has been proven.
Dudley
December 28th, 2010
10:05 pm
Keep
Dick Cheney is darth vaders illegitimate child
TheTruthHurts
December 28th, 2010
10:05 pm
Whomever runs it will be easy to beat Dumb and Dumber…The worst president and the Dumbest VP in History…It will be a breeze for whomever the GOP nominates…just like the wipe out this past election…LOL LOVE IT!!!!!!! Obama is the gift that keeps on giving to the republicans..LOL
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:07 pm
common sense
“Jay doesn’t allow language like that on a family blog LMAO”
You talking about A-li-so-qua-lv-di?
That
ga-lo-nu-he-s-gi di-gv-tsu-gi!!!
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
10:08 pm
No…dont tell me….Dick Cheney had an incestuous relationship with Darth Vader and they gave birth to Obama in any place other than Hawaii…
Dudley
December 28th, 2010
10:10 pm
Keep
Lol
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
10:11 pm
Dave R. – don’t let the friendly IRS agent hear you say that. LOL
Even though I can agree with the sympathies
Scout
December 28th, 2010
10:14 pm
Keep Up the Good Part ! :
1) Obama was born in Hawaii, period, end of discussion.
2) In any case, I don’t care where he was born.
3) He is president.
4) That ain’t going to change.
5) I want to see the long form.
Now what part of that don’t you understand ?
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:14 pm
ADAM
@ 9:55
You’re right. I’m wrong.
Horse
Just because they’re dumb as sh*t lunatics doesn’t make them white nationalists…
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
10:15 pm
Truth…yep Obama is a gift..That “gift” beat your 2008 candidate and swept in a lot of Dems and you are still trying to recover….a few more “gifts’ like that and we’ll get a lot of the mess clean up that was left over by the republicans.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
10:15 pm
Oedipus Cheney?
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
10:15 pm
keep, I have no quarrel with the credentials shown,
pennsylvania has similar laws and procedures,
however since the easiest thing to do is simply
release the documents which i assume can only
be released by President Obama. Being in Hawaii
a personal visit to the document repository, not
working Hardship ,would be smart, Unless there
is a problem. and after this length of time it does
begin to wear, as evidenced by Chris Mathews…
If he waits and then releases with no problems
appearing he will just look silly.. and silly doesn.t
sit well on Presidents..
Dudley
December 28th, 2010
10:16 pm
TheTruthHurts
Have you forgotten Ronnie (I can’t recall) Reagan and George (I was out of the loop) Bush
Scout
December 28th, 2010
10:16 pm
Mick:
Surely (and don’t call me Shirley) you have your own ? Go over it carefully and you will probably figure out what this may all be about.
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
10:16 pm
Scout…okay a good start. Now the simple fact. The laws of Hawaii do NOT give you the right to see the long form. Since you concede Obama is born is Hawaii, there is no reason you need to even look at it.
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
10:18 pm
“As for specifics on the pro-growth measures, it is again not my responsibility to give you all the specifics of well documented stuff.”
Adam-speak for “I don’t have a clue”.
As to what I’d cut, I’d start by bring all our troops home, and that includes Iraq, Afghanistan, and NATO bases in Europe as well. Reagan and Bush ended the Cold War 20 years ago.
Extend the age in which you can start taking benefits from Social Security, or take a lower payout if you want to collect at the original age.
Cut the Medicare prescription drug program in half.
End the War on Drugs and use 1/3 of the money to fund local Drug Courts that provide treatment, not incarceration.
Ban all government employee unions and end civil service until wages more reflect the private sector.
Defund every agency on Jan. 1st of each year until they can show why they are in existence.
End all foreign aid.
Enact the FairTax and reduce the IRS to 10% of it’s current size.
Do that last thing, and the economy will grow so fast you won’t need a tax increase.
And again, I’m not willing to raise taxes anywhere until they show me some cuts in spending.
TheTruthHurts
December 28th, 2010
10:20 pm
Dudley, Of course not….we all miss Bush now and Reagan saved the Economy from another brain dead liberal Jimmy Carter. Now we have a Community Organizer who doesn’t have a clue what he is doing except for destroying the economy and destroying families…so yes Obama is the Dumbest brain dead socialist president in our History with Jimmy Carter close behind.
Kamchak
December 28th, 2010
10:21 pm
Enact the FairTax…
There’s your sign.
Mick
December 28th, 2010
10:22 pm
scout
Pulling out birth certificate……name of child, sex, place of birth, date of birth, date of issue, registrar of vital statistics, seal….that’s it
You are saying that obama is a…………female?
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
10:23 pm
Frog…Presidents typically dont address the demands of crazies…the long form will not settle it for the crazies. Its time we call them for what they are. What next…”Mr. President, prove the moon is not made of green cheese, cause we have a hunch it is.”
So far, not a single birther has any credible evidence that there is any evidence that Obama was not born in Hawaii. Every single court case has been won. NOT one lost. NOT one has gone to trial.
So any time you see a birther claim, you know a crazy is trying to make create wings out of thin air.
Dudley
December 28th, 2010
10:24 pm
I seem to recall the Reagan era as 8 of the worst years on record Union busting, Iran contra, etc
RW-(the original)
December 28th, 2010
10:25 pm
So has the topic moved to Presidential memory problems?
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:26 pm
Truth Hurts
Ima Gonna Fierce Advocate a socialist? Would that he were!!
Scout
December 28th, 2010
10:28 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight ! :
1) The laws of Hawaii do NOT give you the right to see the long form. TRUE
2) Since you concede Obama is (I think you meant was) born is (in) Hawaii, there is no reason you need to even look at it. TRUE
3) I want him to be nice and let the American people see it anyway.
Mick
December 28th, 2010
10:28 pm
scout
Why so cryptic? Just spell it out man or forever hold your peace…
Scout
December 28th, 2010
10:29 pm
Mick:
Nope. You still haven’t caught on.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
10:29 pm
Dudley@10:24 pm
I seem to recall the Reagan era as 8 of the worst years on record Union busting, Iran contra, etc
————————–
Tax increases on the middle class, interest rates going up, unemployment
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
10:29 pm
“NOT one has gone to trial. ”
Keep, understand, I’m not at all in the birther camp, and I think Scout is a bit too cagey with his non-answers on this issue, but the reason none of these suits have gone to trial are due to lack of standing by those bringing the suits, not lack of evidence.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:30 pm
RW
@ 10:25
Too good!
and Dudley
@ 10:24
Seems I remember the same 8 years you do…
Scout
December 28th, 2010
10:31 pm
Outta here …………. early bugle in the morning. Be nice to each other ………………..
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
Reagan’s 8 years…
Excuse me for bringing it up, but, uh, AIDS?
Mick
December 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
Well, I guess you are saying that he won’t release the long form because there isn’t one to release.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
Dave R: Regarding filibuster reform, I said “overturn that nonsense.” That’s actually my fault, I should have known that would be ambiguous. What I meant was overturning the ability to have a filibuster without the senator filibustering being present the whole time he or she wants to filibuster, talking, and taking up floor time. The idea of a shadow filibuster, where a senator can object and then go home having successfully stalled the Senate and deciding to leave for the day is just nonsense. Most jobs don’t let you get away with tricks to go home early and the Senate should be no different.
Ban all government employee unions and end civil service until wages more reflect the private sector.
Enact the FairTax and reduce the IRS to 10% of it’s current size.
I disagree with those two. The others seem good EXCEPT:
Defund every agency on Jan. 1st of each year until they can show why they are in existence.
You’re going to have to be a little more specific on what you mean. I assume by needing them to show why, you mean they could provide some solid evidence of their usefulness. And that begs the question what would satisfy you as being a valid reason for being in existence? Second to that would be, do you consider the military funding to be part of this initiative?
Hootinanny Yum Yum
December 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
Keep up the good fight!, a lot of americans are racists. They may not be Black Panther members, they may not be gang-bangers but they still believe that the black race is superior or they base reactions on sterotypes and prejudice. To some extend studies have shown that a great number of “black people” may have hidden stereotypes and prejudices. That should be acknowledged.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
10:34 pm
Mick: I’m willing to bet Obama doesn’t have an original long form to produce. The state of Hawaii does, and I bet when he was just running for president i.e. not yet elected) they probably wouldn’t give it to him. As long as he considers the thing over, he has no reason to take time out of his day to go hunt down the darn long form.
Mick
December 28th, 2010
10:35 pm
josef
Don’t you remember? The religious right said that aids was a scourge brought on by god against homosexuality and his will be done…aids infected people need not apply..
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
10:35 pm
Anyone remember the SNL skit with Phil Hartman as “The real Ronald Reagan”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skQuhoG7fFM
Funny stuff!
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:39 pm
Adam–
I’m with you on the filibuster requiring the Senator to be there and keep talking…
Hootenany
And it’s not just Americans…it’s human and to a greater or lesser degree it infects us all…the mere fact we define/categorize a person by race terminologies makes us racist…
Yahoo Alert
December 28th, 2010
10:39 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101229/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate
RW-(the original)
December 28th, 2010
10:40 pm
The state of Hawaii does, and I bet when he was just running for president i.e. not yet elected) they probably wouldn’t give it to him.
Adam,
I wouldn’t go down that road if I were you. The only reasons for the State of Hawaii to deny citizen Obama a copy of his birth certificate would be that it didn’t exist or he couldn’t prove he was him and that would move you to the position of King of the Birthers.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
10:40 pm
Didn’t someone in the Reagan WH say that heteros couldn’t get AIDS?
AmVet
December 28th, 2010
10:40 pm
This place is a real corker.
Including concurrent conspiracy theories and Kenyan obsessions. Global cooling and new age non-science (post Darwinian, of course). Flair tax vs. Fat tax? Impending embarrassing meltdowns in the realm of the righteously enraged.
And the Alice in Wonderland cons constantly wonder why Sister Sarah (irritates/scares/bothers/whatevers) the non-Republicans.
Do tell.
This is irritation?
Kristol has been an advocate for Palin in the past, so his prediction about her candidacy is interesting in that light. I also think he’s correct.
And if you armchair psychiatrists and “masters of misrepresentation” think that laughing at the silly things the woman says and does, along with dozens of other such notable political figures, is really fear, well…stick to your day jobs.
Assuming of course they haven’t been outsourced to China…
Associated Press Release
December 28th, 2010
10:41 pm
“Hawaii’s governor wants to reveal Obama birth info.”
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
10:41 pm
“I assume by needing them to show why, you mean they could provide some solid evidence of their usefulness.”
Yes.
And I knew you’d balk on nay real changes to make us competitive and make government more easy to fund and simpler to understand.
As to the military, they are Constitutionally provided with great specificity. All other agencies in existence today are not, so no, they just have to show why they need to be anywhere else but here.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
10:45 pm
AmVet@10:40 pm
Best post of the day LOL
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
10:45 pm
Now it’s off to bed for me after a very long day.
Enjoy the SNL skit posted above, and have a good night, all.
Mick
December 28th, 2010
10:45 pm
dave r
That was funny…never saw it before…can’t get through ten minutes of snl these days..
Adam
December 28th, 2010
10:46 pm
Dave R: But you didn’t answer my question as to what would be a satisfying argument for existence…
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:46 pm
Mick
It wasn’t just the religious right…I remember TOO well what the reactions were back then and, yes, I remember my own, too, the fear of the unknown gripped us all. Getting beyond that was not easy. The lack of leadership and allocation of funds to find out answers is, in my opinion, unforgiveable…and that leadership came from the most unlikely sources sometimes…remember when C Everett Koop said, in essence, “forget the moral posturing, this is an epidemic we’ve got to deal with…?”
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
10:46 pm
well now…we finally have it. No real birther issue for Scout….he just wants to look so some reason even though its not about the place of birth. Yes and I wanted the Bush government to be nice and tell us the truth about Cheney, war crimes, oil deals and more but it did not happen.
Dave R…not true. Donofrio denied by US Supremes without comment. Keyes denied because he was not entitle to the records sought not because of a lack of standing. Ankeny was not dismissed on lack of standing it was a motion to dismiss on the merits. Kerchner was standing.
Barnett (Orly) was based on technical grounds and dismissed it on summary judgment. Hollister dismissed as harassment and improper purpose. We can keep going on.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
10:47 pm
RW: They gave him a copy. They didn’t give him a copy of the long form. Either they wouldn’t give him that copy OR he thought like every agency and private company thinks, that the short form they gave him was good enough to prove citizenship.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
10:48 pm
Keep 10:23 Presidents address crazies all the time,
especially when it can gain votes or cost votes, mathews
is ably making the point that further non release appears
to be concealment and if there is no harm release will be
helpful. Presidents don’t have to release wills either but
if it would get him votes it would be politically expedient.
Mick
December 28th, 2010
10:50 pm
josef
A lot of disinformation at the time, but most disturbingly sheer denial that it could happen to me. Got to hit the hay….roger out…
Tommy Maddox
December 28th, 2010
10:51 pm
Oddowl @ 9:32PM:
HAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA! Oh man I’m gonna blow a vein BUHUUWAAAAHHHH!
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:51 pm
barking frog…
Isn’t the President required to address the crazies at least once a year?
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
10:51 pm
Frog…we’ll have to disagre but here is a few lines from Wikipedia on the issue:
A common claim among those arguing that President Obama was not born in Hawaii is that all doubt would be settled if Obama released his “long form” birth certificate. However, commentators noted that doing so would be disadvantageous to Obama. First, it would encourage speculation as to why it took so long to release the document. Second, caving in to his political adversaries’ demands would embolden them by giving them a victory. Finally, it would open the door to demands for other personal records unrelated to his birth certificate.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
10:52 pm
Maybe he’s trying to hide the fact that his mother isn’t from Kansas
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
10:52 pm
She must be from Alabama and therefore not a US citizen LMAO
Adam
December 28th, 2010
10:53 pm
Keep up: all good points.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:59 pm
I have it from a reliable source that he was born on a kibbutz in Israel and his real name is Irving ben David and he IS the Messiah…
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
11:02 pm
common sense
Not to poke the Bruin, but, uh on his mother’s side his Confederate citizenship is beyond question…and most of them went to the great beyond never having regained US citizenship…hmmm
And you know he DOES send that wreath on Confederate Memorial Day
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
11:03 pm
There is no disadvantage in being truthful with the public.
Speculation is already rampant about non release.
The birthers would win nothing and would look sillier,
UNLESS there is a problem. There should be no other
personal records that he would have a problem revealing.
Remember the ‘caesar’s wife must be above suspicion’ thing.
And this is a controversy easily settled.
AmVet
December 28th, 2010
11:06 pm
Common, thanks.
And nice combo observation/reference about Cheech & Chong’s Lets Make a Dope Deal and my fellow Jayhawker. Who is apparently sliced liver, and who almost never gets mentioned.
And for josef and Jesus lovers everywhere…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQVvtecOhGg
dave
December 28th, 2010
11:09 pm
As a conservative myself, surprisingly, I agree with Jay on this one. Gingrich has been out of the loop too long (and, as others have mentioned, has a lot of baggage; I could see him in a cabinet post or something), and Palin, well, I just don’t see it. She may be smart, but she does not show well in public (lots of intelligent people don’t, as a matter of fact). Her cheerleading has probably hurt her in the public spectrum, in that she is portrayed as a ditz, and she does seem to be somewhat shallow (she reminds me sort of Dan Quayle; a smart guy, but someone who, in public, always manages to do something that makes him look stupid). For me, I’d rather have someone with more substance, like Mike Huckabee, Herman Cain, Mitt Romney, or somebody like that (even Alan Keyes or Steve Forbes, for that matter). I don’t know enough about Haley Barbour or Tim Pawlenty to have an opinion about them, but I really don’t think either Palin or Gingrich would make it very far through the primaries, if they did decide to run. Sorry for the long post.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
11:10 pm
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
10:59 pm
————————————
I believe his name would have to be Immanuel, wouldn’t it?
over the hill
December 28th, 2010
11:10 pm
the only serious candidates the republicans can put up are gingrich with a lot a personal baggage and palin, a flake? Amazing! No wonder they lost the election—with either of these 2, they will lose big again.
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
11:12 pm
Frog, you can argue all you want. Its not a controversy. It is crazy talk. It has been proven. You keep ignoring facts. That some want to keep arguing because they are “dumbaszes” in the words of Ken Buck is not Obama’s problem (and included in that group of DAs in Nathan Deal, the first congress to officially request to see Obama’s birth certificate and perhaps the holder of Gov DumbA). It is a private matter and the statements and certifications of the state of Hawaii should suffice.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
11:18 pm
Keep, the man is a masterful politician, He signed the
tax extension because there are no political demerits
for not raising taxes. You keep ignoring the fact that he
will need every vote available in 2012. To allow this to
cost him even one vote makes even his liberal following
question his actions. Not a good move.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
11:18 pm
Common
That’s the name they gave him at the brit milah….sssshhhh
El Jefe
December 28th, 2010
11:18 pm
I concur, they could do more good in the Senate. Come 2012, we will be replacing a lot of Senators – 1/3 of them are coming up on re-election.
Their records will tell the tale.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
11:19 pm
Josef – I can’t help it if my mama’s family settled in Alabama, just cause I was borned there don’t make me furrin
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
11:23 pm
Common Sense, without Alabama, North Georgia would
slide into the Gulf of Mexico…
El Jefe
December 28th, 2010
11:23 pm
Keep up the good fight!,
At worse (or best – depend which side your on) Obama has dual citizenship – American and UK (Kenya was a part of the British empire at that time).
There is a controversy, if dual citizenship disqualifies him or not.
He is either stubborn (arrogant, above it all, etc.) for not releasing his long form birth certificate or he is hiding something.
Who knows.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
11:25 pm
why doesn’t florida float away. South Alabama sux LOL,
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
11:25 pm
Frog…my last on this issue. Here is the link to the official Hawaiian FAQ on the matter which includes the links to the official statement of the Health Director who has examined the records. You are entitled to your believes and so are the pundits. Pundits have been wrong and can disagree. The one theing they all agree so far on is that making the long form availble will NOT make this issue go away and will not satisfy the crazies. Their arguments are simply not rational and not based on any evidence….it is simply as Scout finally conceded when you push away the silliness “I wanna see it just because.” And seeing it is not going to change the irrational crazy DAs to finally say…ok. It’s just going to cause a new round of demands and challenges.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
11:28 pm
see you all tomorrow
Don
December 28th, 2010
11:30 pm
You mean he got impeached and disbarred after carrying on a sexual affair with a big-haired fat chick in the oval office?
So it’s worse because it was in the oval office? Situational morality? Gingrich was having an affair while trying to impeach Clinton. Hypocrisy is a republican plank.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
11:30 pm
Keep, Unfortunately he is probably past the point where
revelation would help so the birthers win this one by keeping
on keeping on….
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
11:32 pm
El Jefe..your so-called argument does not require the release of any additional birth certificate information. You may want to review Donofrio which made that claim and the US Supreme court (Clarence Thomas) declined to hear without comment. So you lost.