Gingrich, Palin have no shot at being GOP presidential nominee
She can kiss dreams of the White House goodbye.
Bill Kristol, the Fox News analyst and Weekly Standard editor, made a couple of predictions on Fox News Sunday about the GOP presidential race:
“Can I go out on a limb, since everyone else is scared to say — actually make any predictions. I predict Palin will not run. I have no knowledge at all; I just have the hunch that she ultimately will not run.
I think Newt Gingrich is underestimated. Newt is going to run and Newt will be formidable. People can talk about the baggage, but lots of candidates have had lots of baggage, and people think they’re the right guy for the job, he could do better — and I do think — than people expect.”
Kristol has been an advocate for Palin in the past, so his prediction about her candidacy is interesting in that light. I also think he’s correct. Palin has peaked politically, and will be taken less and less seriously from here on out. A year from now, she’ll be considered little more than a curiosity. Public Policy Polling — admittedly, a Democratic-leaning polling firm — says that even in Alaska, her popularity has plummeted. Only 33 percent of her home-state voters now see her favorably, while 58 percent have an unfavorable impression of their former half-term governor. Among Alaska independents, 65 percent rate her unfavorably, and only 25 percent have a favorable opinion. In fact, of the 10 states surveyed by PPP, only Massachusetts gave Palin a lower favorability rating than Alaska.
Been there, done that, next joke please.
Sorry, no nomination for you, either.
On Gingrich, however, I think Kristol’s dead wrong. Like Kristol, I now believe that Gingrich will probably run, and his glib tongue will ensure he gets media coverage. But in general, people don’t like Newt and people don’t trust him, and people want to like and trust their president. And in Newt’s case, the more exposure he gets on the campaign trail, the less he’ll be liked and trusted. He is not a person who wears well over time.
I wouldn’t care to guess at this point who the GOP nominee will be. It just won’t be either of these two, and for that fact the country and the Republican Party ought to be thankful.
– Jay Bookman
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Adam
December 28th, 2010
7:34 pm
Fred: That is an excellent way of looking at the issue of “mandate.” I think the Republicans make a mountain out of a molehill every time they have a majority vote, even if that majority is slim.
Fred
December 28th, 2010
7:35 pm
Del: I’m still a staunch supporter of Obama. The last (and only other) President I was a staunch supporter of was President Bush, the elder. I think both of the two I mentioned were concerned with AMERICA and AMERICANS, not political party affiliation.
I think zig zag Zell was another one. I may be wrong on him though. He seemed to exhibit that in the Senate, but he never had a chance to be President……..
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
7:36 pm
So many Americans have been jobless for so long that the government is changing how it records long-term unemployment.
Citing what it calls “an unprecedented rise” in long-term unemployment, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), beginning Saturday, will raise from two years to five years the upper limit on how long someone can be listed as having been jobless.
They’re all sitting around collecting unemployment, dammit!
Adam
December 28th, 2010
7:36 pm
Kamchak: and there’s the rub. The Republicans really do expect to be given over complete control without any opposition to their policies because “we won fair and square,” neglecting or ignoring the fact that they only have a majority. But when the Democrats win a majority, you don’t hear them getting up and talking about how the American people have spoken and they said DEMOCRATS RULE. Instead you hear stuff like “We will honor our promises to those who voted for us.” It’s much more tame, and doesn’t fit as well on a bumper sticker.
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
7:37 pm
I think AmVet has to be at LEAST 90.
Nobody that cranky all the time is under 70, that’s for sure!
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
7:39 pm
“The Republicans really do expect to be given over complete control without any opposition to their policies because “we won fair and square,” neglecting or ignoring the fact that they only have a majority.”
How many Republicans in Congress have you actually talked with to make such a claim?
Fred
December 28th, 2010
7:39 pm
Kamchak
December 28th, 2010
7:28 pm
I think that you are laboring under the misapprehension that anyone will sit down and STFU.
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LOL. What I am really laboring under is the misapprehension that anyone will admit their hypocrisy. That somehow politicians will wake up one day and do what is best for our Country instead of what will gain them more power.
It only hurts when I laugh, yet I laugh all the time…………
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
7:40 pm
Corporate profits are up. Stock prices are up. So why isn’t anyone hiring?
Actually, many American companies are — just maybe not in your town. They’re hiring overseas, where sales are surging and the pipeline of orders is fat.
More than half of the 15,000 people that Caterpillar has hired this year were outside the U.S. UPS (UPS) is also hiring at a faster clip overseas. For both companies, sales in international markets are growing at least twice as fast as domestically.
The trend helps explain why unemployment remains high in the United States, edging up to 9.8% last month, even though companies are performing well: All but 4% of the top 500 U.S. corporations reported profits this year, and the stock market is close to its highest point since the 2008 financial meltdown.
But the jobs are going elsewhere. The Economic Policy Institute, a Washington think tank, says American companies have created 1.4 million jobs overseas this year, compared with less than 1 million in the U.S. The additional 1.4 million jobs would have lowered the U.S. unemployment rate to 8.9%, says Robert Scott, the institute’s senior international economist.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
7:41 pm
Mick 7:29 my brain may be lethargic, i had assumed it
was contemplative but lethargism may have been
masquerading as contemplativity….
Mick
December 28th, 2010
7:43 pm
fred
Bush the elder is definately more likable than his son. I didn’t agree with him attacking panama and noriega because of sovereignty. However, the gulf war was done correctly. A hugh coalition and most importantly, it was paid for…..Saddam was exposed as a stooge by having his men in positions on the open desert. Iranian bluster – they fought against saddam for 8 years and lost 500k which ended in a stalemate.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
7:43 pm
Dave R: How many Republicans in Congress have you actually talked with to make such a claim?
When they speak to the American public on TV, repeatedly calling every win a mandate, I consider that as having spoken to them. Because I’m part of the American public. It’s a one way conversation, but at least I know where they stand. They said so!
Mick
December 28th, 2010
7:44 pm
dave r
I’ve got you pegged at 76…
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
7:46 pm
The year 2011 will bring Americans a larger and more intrusive police state, more unemployment and home foreclosures, no economic recovery, more disregard by the US government of US law, international law, the Constitution, and truth, more suspicion and distrust from allies, more hostility from the rest of the world, and new heights of media sycophancy.
2011 is shaping up as the terminal year for American democracy. The Republican Party has degenerated into a party of Brownshirts, and voter frustrations with the worsening economic crisis and military occupations gone awry are likely to bring Republicans to power in 2012. With them would come their doctrines of executive primacy over Congress, the judiciary, law, and the Constitution and America’s rightful hegemony over the world.
”Dissent is what rescues democracy from a quiet death behind closed doors.”
—Lewis H. Lapham
Article by Paul Craig Roberts, Assistant Treasury Secretary under Ronald Reagan
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
7:46 pm
More than a score of years too high, Mick. Sorry!
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
7:46 pm
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
7:40 pm
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…and LCD TV prices are dropping because the
warehouses are full and no one is buying..either
they can’t or won’t..
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
7:47 pm
PAUL
That blood quantum-citizenship thingie is a big issue in Indian country…less so among the Five “Civilized Tribes” than others, but even there it can get just downright mean…the Mississippi Choctaw require 1/2 and the (I think) the NC Cherokee require 1/8–in Oklahoma it depends on the Dawes roll and while the CDIB card is issued, it doesn’t determine citizenship…an interesting set to came up there over HR 2824 which threatened abrogation of treaties with the US government if the Cherokee Nation did not accept the federal government’s dictates on who is and who is not a citizen accusing the Cherokee of “racism” in not recognizing the descendents of Freedmen who were NOT Dawes Roll signators to the Dawes Roll…said nothing about the several hundred thousand Cherokee, some of whom are full bloods, denied Cherokee citizenship from the fact they are not Dawes Roll signator descendents…again, racism is a black victim thing…
Mick
December 28th, 2010
7:47 pm
dave r
Enlighten me, just how many years is a score anyway?
TnGelding
December 28th, 2010
7:48 pm
Newt should have challenged Bush in 2004. He has a lot of good ideas, but is intellectually dishonest. He says a lot of things he knows aren’t true. Romney should be the nominee, but it will probably be one of the young governors.
Jack
December 28th, 2010
7:49 pm
I’m thinking about running in 2012. All I have to do to win is promise a chicken in every pot.
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
7:51 pm
Remember your Gettysburg Address? Four-score and . . .
A score is 20 years, Mick. I’m only 54 years young. Only halfway to my hoped for life expectancy.
Which means I’ll be bugging the crap out of the libs on this blog for years to come!
Scout
December 28th, 2010
7:52 pm
Mick:
That was good ! 63 !
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
7:52 pm
The two greatest visions of a future dystopia were George Orwell’s “1984” and Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World.” The debate, between those who watched our descent towards corporate totalitarianism, was who was right. Would we be, as Orwell wrote, dominated by a repressive surveillance and security state that used crude and violent forms of control? Or would we be, as Huxley envisioned, entranced by entertainment and spectacle, captivated by technology and seduced by profligate consumption to embrace our own oppression? It turns out Orwell and Huxley were both right. Huxley saw the first stage of our enslavement. Orwell saw the second.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
7:52 pm
Mick
Score–20 years
And AmVet…he’s about my age…just a cr*tchety curmudgeon prodigy…
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
7:53 pm
Just think of how many times Adam can be wrong in 50 years.
It boggles the mind. . . .
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
7:53 pm
Jack
December 28th, 2010
7:49 pm
I’m thinking about running in 2012. All I have to do to win is promise a chicken in every pot
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I’m thinking about running in 2012. All I have to do is promise pot.
Might work better.
Scout
December 28th, 2010
7:53 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight ! :
Uh ………….. o.k. ……………. how about my hamster can whip your hamster then?
By the way, if you are so anti-violence why does your handling represent “fighting” ?
Adam
December 28th, 2010
7:55 pm
Dave R: You’re the only one who seems to think I’m wrong as often as you say. I admit to being wrong on occasion, but most of what you call wrong you are either incorrect about, or assessing an opinion as differing from your own, and therefore wrong.
Fred
December 28th, 2010
7:55 pm
Mick
December 28th, 2010
7:43 pm
Bush the elder is definately more likable than his son. I didn’t agree with him attacking panama and noriega because of sovereignty.
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I would think he was trying to “right’ a “wrong” we committed by keeping him in power in the first place (the communist scare thing) so I give him a pass on that one.
You are right about Desert Storm. He did what he said he would do, protect Saudi and remove Saddam from Kuwait. HE at least was smart enough to NOT topple Saddam as he knew what a quagmire that would embroil us in. His son was too stupid to call him and ask his advise before getting us into this debacle.
i never was a big Ronnie Reagan guy and although he DID outspend the USSR into bankruptcy. Nixon was………. well we know what Nixon was. I’m too young to comment on any President before that without consulting history books, but it seems Johnson had a pair. It cost him a second term, but he had the nuts to push the Civil Rights act through. Although he DID expand Viet Nam…….
Mick
December 28th, 2010
7:56 pm
dave r
**I’m only 54 years young.**
I like you take on that. We grew up in the same basic time warp, how is it that your views are so close minded?
Kamchak
December 28th, 2010
7:57 pm
Adam
I don’t believe the Democrats to be more noble than their Republican counter parts. I do believe that Democrats are well aware that a href=”http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/30/us/politics/30purity.html?_r=1″>a purity pledge, like the one proposed by James Bopp Jr., wouldn’t really fly for Dems.
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Fred
Maybe I’m just too jaded, but anyone who votes for a candidate thinking that the job comes first is well—just a naif. Getting money to get re-elected is job 1.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
7:57 pm
Scout 7:53 I take it you have no experience with the
rooster industry…
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
7:57 pm
“You’re the only one who seems to think I’m wrong as often as you say.”
Don’t read the dissenting comments much, do ya?
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
7:57 pm
Soothsayer@7:36 pm
Citing what it calls “an unprecedented rise” in long-term unemployment, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), beginning Saturday, will raise from two years to five years the upper limit on how long someone can be listed as having been jobless.
They’re all sitting around collecting unemployment, dammit!
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Sooth
Unless someone devises a way to count the people that DON’T report to the unemployment office the numbers don’t mean shyt.
Fred
December 28th, 2010
7:57 pm
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
7:52 pm
And AmVet…he’s about my age…just a cr*tchety curmudgeon prodigy…
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Naw, he’s a far left wing fanatic.
Jay
December 28th, 2010
7:58 pm
well damn, josef (and del). I just checked, and you’re right. Who knew (not me!)
Kamchak
December 28th, 2010
7:59 pm
Which means I’ll be
buggingboring the crap out of the libs on this blog for years to come!Fixed your typo
Mick
December 28th, 2010
8:01 pm
fred
Even cheney knew there would be a quagmire but that took second place to this little piece of propaganda, *we’re fighting them over there, so we don’t have to fight them over here”. Unfortunately, we have created thousands more who want to bring it over here including some homegrown elements, the dye has been cast for the future because of present day actions…
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
8:02 pm
JAY
Now maybe we can get to the Late Misunderstanding… Just kidding, just kidding, don’t throw me in the Briar Patch…
FRED
L-rd! If AmVet is far left wing (I won’t argue fanatic
) what does that make ME???
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
8:02 pm
“We grew up in the same basic time warp, how is it that your views are so close minded?”
I’m one of the more open-minded people you’ll ever meet, Mick. There are just some things (like government) that I am not open-minded about. I’ve lived it, studied it, avoided it, served it and fought it for about 35 years. I know what it can do, can’t do, should do and shouldn’t do based on real-life experiences both good and bad.
And I despair when people subject themselves to it, prostrate themselves to it, rely on it and darn near almost worship it.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
8:02 pm
Common Sense isn’t very Common
December 28th, 2010
7:57 pm
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check the bureau of labor statistics. unemployment numbers
are based on telephone polls to randomly selected households.
Fred
December 28th, 2010
8:03 pm
Jay
December 28th, 2010
7:58 pm
well damn, josef (and del). I just checked, and you’re right. Who knew (not me!)
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Don’t you just HATE when you have to concede a point? I know I do. I’d rather snatch one of my eyes out.
but a real man admits a mistake rather than snatching an eye out…………. as you just did.
AmVet
December 28th, 2010
8:04 pm
Gee, Fred, betwixt you and Harry, I’m gonna get my feelings hurt. (grin)
Dave R, takes a nonagenarian to know one, huh?!
Actually………………………………………
DING! DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!
Mick was correct. 1955. Wichita, Kansas. On Kansas Day, no less.
Lots of Eisenhower era babies here. (When babies were real babies!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaC_cChs6hA
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
8:04 pm
JAY
Incidentally, that particular math one is on the CRCT! Chile, you’ve just been left behind…!
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 28th, 2010
8:05 pm
Soothsayer: But the jobs are going elsewhere.
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Why do you think that is, Sooth?
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
8:05 pm
Dave R.@7:51 pm
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Damn Dave, you and Jay are the same age. Twins separated at birth LOL
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
8:05 pm
Kamchak, I may be many things, but boring ain’t one of them.
But then, I don’t rely on drive-by comments to get me through the day.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
8:06 pm
FRED
Jay’s nothing if he’s not a mensch…
Mick
December 28th, 2010
8:07 pm
dave r@8:02
Good analysis of gov’t on your part. However, many just want good gov’t with promises made, promises kept.
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
8:08 pm
Common @ 8:05: Crap! How does a guy my age have a head of hair like that?
It’s gotta be Photo-shopped . . .
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
8:08 pm
barking frog@7:53 pm
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You bought my vote fair and square
Fred
December 28th, 2010
8:10 pm
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
8:02 pm
L-rd! If AmVet is far left wing (I won’t argue fanatic
) what does that make ME???
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A queen. But we all know that.
But seriously. You lean to the right, but you aren’t a fanatic from what I have seen you post. I have yet to see you “defending” an illogical point because it’s the party line. I may not agree with you, but I can always see where you are coming from (well except one crucial time) from a logical stand point. What are you?
You are a free thinking American not bound by party line.
Am i wrong?
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
8:10 pm
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
8:06 pm
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does a bruin poking cause menschopause?
Adam
December 28th, 2010
8:10 pm
Dave R: If I didn’t read dissenting comments I wouldn’t read YOURS.
Kamchak: I didn’t say Democrats were more noble, but definitely more tame. Certainly they don’t have the same kind of UMPH behind their policies and wins. And I was quite disappointed with the malaise all the Democrats in office fell into having lost the House. It was… well.. emo. I’m glad Obama and Reid pulled them out of it.
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
8:10 pm
“Why do you think that is, Sooth?”
Because the wages are lower? Oh no, wait! It’s because our corporate taxes are too high. No, wait! It’s because of all the regulation on business. No, wait! It’s because of environmental regulations.
Did I leave out any talking points?
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
8:12 pm
“However, many just want good gov’t with promises made, promises kept.”
The only promise I want from government is to stay out of my business, Mick, as long as I don’t take anyone’s life, liberty or property through the use of force or fraud.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
8:12 pm
Also Fred in case it wasn’t clear before, I posed that question before to really ask in a bad way (sorry) if that’s what you were actually saying. I still have a respect for you as a commenter here.
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
8:12 pm
What a bunch of mindless idots on this blog incessantly spouting your “opinions.” Like they really mean squat.
lynnie gal
December 28th, 2010
8:13 pm
The only GOP candidate who has a chance against Obama is Mitt Romney. But he won’t be the GOP candidate because republicans as a whole don’t like him. He’s not southern, he was governor of an intellectually viable state, (Mass.) and he helped that state secure healthcare for their citizens. So, he’s hated by most of the GOP.
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
8:13 pm
Sooth…you left out the best….The Rent is Too Damn High!
Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:13 pm
josef nix
Most interesting reading on the citizenship thing. Lots of people with stuck paradigms won’t have a clue –
Just finishing Ken Follett’s World Without End followup to Pillars of the Earth. You really, really need to read them.
Mick
“I like you take on that. We grew up in the same basic time warp, how is it that your views are so close minded?”
That was a great line!
Hi AmVet
Thanks for the Christmas wishes much earlier. Same to you, too. And… I did so enjoy the Air Force future flyboys smackdown of the Georgia Tech (future whats?) team the other night. ’twas a thing of beauty.
As to my 3:17… I’ve heard of turning the other cheek, but you seem to have had about 12 that you turned. I kept expecting Harry to announce he was leaving for his $12 steak lunch at Golden Corral or whereever…. next time he announces that I’m gonna have to ask what a rich guy tips a $2.35 an hour worker -
James
December 28th, 2010
8:14 pm
You libs are just afraid of a smart conservative!
TGT
December 28th, 2010
8:14 pm
Hot off the presses for you Kamchak (and the rest of the Warmers): Much global warming alarm centers upon concerns that melting glaciers will cause a disastrous sea level rise. A globally viewed December 2005 BBC feature alarmingly reported that two massive glaciers in eastern Greenland, Kangderlugssuaq and Helheim, were melting, with water “racing to the sea.” Commentators urgently warned that continued recession would be catastrophic.
Helheim’s “erratic” behavior reported then was recently recounted again in a dramatic Nov. 13 New York Times article titled “As Glaciers Melt, Science Seeks Data on Rising Seas.” Reporters somehow failed to notice that only 18 months later, and despite slightly warmer temperatures, the melting rate of both glaciers not only slowed down and stopped, but actually reversed. Satellite images revealed that by August 2006 Helheim had advanced beyond its 1933 boundary.
According to two separate NASA studies, one conducted by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and the other by the Langley Research Center, the oceans now appear to be heading into another natural periodic cooling phase within a typical 55- to 70-year dipolar warm/cool pattern. Although Greenland has recently been experiencing a slight warming trend, satellite measurements show that the ice cap has been accumulating snow growth at a rate of about 2.1 inches per year. Temperatures only recently began to exceed those of the 1930s and 1940s when many glaciers were probably smaller than now. (We can’t be certain, because satellites didn’t exist to measure them.)
A recent study conducted by U.S. and Dutch scientists that appeared in the journal Nature Geoscience concluded that previous estimates of Greenland and West Antarctica ice melt rate losses may have been exaggerated by double. Earlier projections apparently failed to account for rebounding changes in the Earth’s crust following the last Ice Age (referred to as “glacial isostatic adjustment”).
Nils-Axel Morner, head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University in Sweden, argues that any concerns regarding rising sea levels are unfounded. “So all this talk that sea level rising, this comes from the computer modeling, not from observations. … The new level, which has been stable, has not changed in the last 35 years. … But they [IPCC] need a rise, because if there is no rise, there is no death threat … if you want a grant for a research project in climatology, it is written into the document that there ‘must’ be a focus on global warming. … That is really bad, because you start asking for the answer you want to get.”
Studies by the International Union for Quaternary Research conclude that some ocean levels have even fallen in recent decades. The Indian Ocean, for example, was higher between 1900 and 1970 than it has been since.
Other world climate alarm bells chimed when it was reported in the media that September 2007 satellite images revealed that the Northwest Passage–a sea route between the U.K. and Asia across the top of the Arctic Circle–had opened up for the first time in recorded history. (This “recorded history” dates back only to 1979 when satellite monitoring first began, and it should also be noted that the sea route froze again just a few months later (winter 2007-2008).
The Northwest Passage has certainly opened up before. Diary entries of a sailor named Roald Amundson confirm clear passage in 1903, as do those of a Royal Canadian Mounted Police Arctic patrol crew that made regular trips through there in the early 1940s. And in February 2009 it was discovered that scientists had previously been underestimating the re-growth of Arctic sea ice by an area larger than the state of California (twice as large as New Zealand). The errors were attributed to faulty sensors on the ice.
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Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:15 pm
Fred
“Don’t you just HATE when you have to concede a point? I know I do. I’d rather snatch one of my eyes out. ”
Why on earth would that be? Seems to me it indicates there isn’t more to learn……
Adam
December 28th, 2010
8:15 pm
For the love of God TGT, would you please only post the link if you want the entire article to be read, instead of copy/paste.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
8:16 pm
Paul: The short answer is human nature. No one likes to be wrong.
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
8:16 pm
“And… I did so enjoy the Air Force future flyboys smackdown of the Georgia Tech (future whats?) team the other night.”
As a former flyboy myself, I too enjoyed the win, Paul. But let’s not rub it in too much; after all, some of those engineers might be designing the next generation airplanes those future flyboys will be strapped to . . .
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
8:16 pm
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
8:12 pm
as long as I don’t take anyone’s life, liberty or property through the use of force or fraud.
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Unfortunately, this puts government square in the middle of
your business and everyone else’s.
Fred
December 28th, 2010
8:17 pm
AmVet
December 28th, 2010
8:04 pm
Gee, Fred, betwixt you and Harry, I’m gonna get my feelings hurt. (grin)
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No you won’t. I love that about you. you are a far right wing fanatic AND YOU ADMIT IT.
You are what you are and you don’t lie about it. Too many of the right wing fanatics lie about, (too many of the left wing fanatics as well for that matter). I wish you were a bit more open minded at times, but I respect you for who you ARE, not who I wish you were.
Del
December 28th, 2010
8:17 pm
Fred,
It’s certainly alright at least with me that you’re an Obama supporter. I’m not, and of course that’s probably well known on here. I wouldn’t want this country to ever become one of singular political thought as we would then turn into what our founding fathers would never have wanted us to become and what god men have given their lives to prevent.
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
8:18 pm
There’s Dave R. who still has his job so he’s against anything that might help someone less fortunate than he. That is until he loses his job. Then he’ll be all in favor of extending unemployment.
Then there’s Little Barry Bailout. who can’t sleep nights and whose life is absolute torture because a Democrat–especially a nagger–won the White House. Whose life revolves around somehow returning to the “good old days” under King Dumb Ass.
Or how about Scout and Del who, since serving in the armed forces imagine that they are near deities who are somehow blessed with near prophesorial insight.
Let me think a little more.
Del
December 28th, 2010
8:18 pm
correction on my last…good men have given their lives to prevent.
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 28th, 2010
8:19 pm
Some people want government to make fewer promises. Fewer promises made by government equates to fewer taxpayer dollars thrown down various black holes and fewer losses of our freedoms.
Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:20 pm
Adam
“Paul: The short answer is human nature. No one likes to be wrong.”
Seems to me that’s more of an ego problem. If all people are concerned with is being ‘right’ then how on earth is new knowledge obtained?
Mick
December 28th, 2010
8:20 pm
dave r
What I want out of gov’t is to protect american interests home and abroad. Trade policy that helps american workers, helps america produce goods again – I believe in mercantilism. I want gov’t to strengthen social security and medicare. High speed rail, let’s get in the game and innovate with interstate connections. Those are a few..
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
8:21 pm
“Unfortunately, this puts government square in the middle of
your business and everyone else’s.”
Frog, IF I do such as I mentioned above, then it is certainly government’s prerogative and mission to intervene on the aggrieved party’s behalf.
But if I do NOT do the above mentioned things, it should be my right to have no government interference whatsoever in my life.
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 28th, 2010
8:21 pm
Sooth, you should be ashamed of yourself for using the “N” word.
Racist.
Del
December 28th, 2010
8:21 pm
Soothsayer, I most certainly agree, you should think a little more.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
8:22 pm
Paul: New knowledge is obtained through the knowledge that you don’t know everything, and you have to set your ego aside for that sometimes. Of course sometimes your ego gets slapped down HARD and then you either have to admit you don’t know everything and change your mind about something, or you’ll remain bitter about it instead. The former takes much less energy.
Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:23 pm
Dave R
“But let’s not rub it in too much; after all, some of those engineers might be designing the next generation airplanes those future flyboys will be strapped to . ”
Okay, I can accept the AF Academy football players can go on to fly jets and do all sorts of whiz-bang stuff.
But are you really making the point the Georgia Tech football players are going for engineering degrees to design future-generation weapons systems?
‘xcuse me while I duck to avoid the incoming fire….
TGT
December 28th, 2010
8:23 pm
Adam: Yeah, my bad, a little more than I meant to paste.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
8:23 pm
barking frog@8:02 pm
check the bureau of labor statistics. unemployment numbers
are based on telephone polls to randomly selected households.
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Yep, random calling is such a sure way to count the number of unemployed. Glad we don’t do elections that way (except Fl. that is ) LOL
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
8:24 pm
barking
Has he been having premenschtral stress today?
Fred…
Nanh, I don’t lean right…not politically anyway…my politics are left…my philosophy is liberal…it’s just that sometimes the right is more liberal than it wants to admit…
PAUL
Few people are aware that the Indigenous Americans are the only “race” in the country who have to “prove it.” A Black, an Asian, a Latino can get the “goodies” that go with it simply by saying that’s what they are…the Indigenous have to present the CDIB or enrollment card…if that’s not racism, I’d like to know what it is…
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
8:24 pm
Fred, If AmVet is a far right wing fanatic then my left
foot needs to wear my right shoe and that would be wrong.
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
8:25 pm
All you Righties on this blog are nothing more than a bunch of self-serving hypocrites, who, faced with any real adversity in life would run crying to your Mothers. You are secure in your little jobs (at least for now) so your only real worry is keeping everyone away from your tax dollars except the military. You make me sick to my stomach! Rather than spew your pompous, self-righteous drivel, you should pray that God doesn’t find it time to humble you.
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 28th, 2010
8:25 pm
Why not answer the question, Sooth? Why do you think American companies are creating more jobs overseas than at home?
Is it because of our awesome business environment? Low taxes? Highly educated populace? Friendly labor unions? Predictable regulatory environment? Stable federal government? Absence of litigation abuse? Shortage of lawyers?
Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:25 pm
Adam
“Of course sometimes your ego gets slapped down HARD and then you either have to admit you don’t know everything and change your mind about something,”
Well, all I’ll say to that is, I was wrong, once. It was the time I thought I’d made a mistake…
Fred
December 28th, 2010
8:25 pm
Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:13 pm
Just finishing Ken Follett’s World Without End
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thank you. Pillars of the earth is one of my top 100 books. I didn’t know there was a follow up. now I do and I’ll have to read it. Maybe it will be as good as Leon Uris’s follow up to Trinity, Redemption.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
8:27 pm
barking frog: yeah I kind of thought AmVet was more left leaning…. Either that or I really agree with the far right more than I thought.
Fred
December 28th, 2010
8:27 pm
Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:15 pm
Fred
“Don’t you just HATE when you have to concede a point? I know I do. I’d rather snatch one of my eyes out. ”
Why on earth would that be? Seems to me it indicates there isn’t more to learn……
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Nice selective quoting. With editing, one can make another say ANYTHING right?
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
8:27 pm
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
8:21 pm
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But Dave the Government has to be sure you are not
doing any of those things and thus the door is opened….
Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:27 pm
josef nix 8:24
That is one of those “WOW” posts.
Mind-boggling, too.
Everyone can say “this is what I am” and whoever challenges them is slapped down.
But when it comes to being an Indian, it’s ‘prove it’!
Just… wow….
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2010
8:28 pm
“Because the wages are lower? ” Dumbasses can’t read.
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 28th, 2010
8:28 pm
Sooth, I have to admit that I am having trouble managing my money lately. It just keeps piling up and I don’t know what to do with it.
Dave R.
December 28th, 2010
8:28 pm
“There’s Dave R. who still has his job so he’s against anything that might help someone less fortunate than he. That is until he loses his job. Then he’ll be all in favor of extending unemployment.”
You know, Sooth, every now and then you come up with the most ill-conceived comments on this blog. The above is one of them.
For your information, Sooth, I have been unemployed more than once in my lifetime. On the rare occasions that I was unable to secure multiple part-time jobs in order to bring in money, I never once even considered applying for unemployment benefits. I have never taken welfare. I never took advantage of the V.A. loan I was entitled to use from serving in the military, because I felt that only those who served in combat deserved that hand up.
In short, Sooth, I’ve never taken a dime of money from the government that I didn’t earn in salary or benefits when I served government.
Now, do you have any more stoopid things to write about me?
Adam
December 28th, 2010
8:29 pm
LBB: Why do you think American companies are creating more jobs overseas than at home?
I’ll answer this one. It is because, above all other considerations, it is much cheaper to hire a labor force in certain other countries. It really has very little to do with taxes, especially since the same company that can actually afford to ship the jobs overseas are more than capable of minimizing their U.S. tax output.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
8:29 pm
PAUL
I’m with you on that shown to be in error thing and still learning…why just tonight I found out I was wrong on Jay voting for Reagan and was happy, happy, happy…I was holding that against him all this time…
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
8:30 pm
Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:25 pm
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You too?
Kamchak
December 28th, 2010
8:30 pm
I didn’t say Democrats were more noble, but definitely more tame.
Yeah I got that , but I don’t necessarily believe “tame” is the right word as I believe Dems to be just as feral as their counter parts. It’s the not walking in lock step that a purity pledge would accomplish that is lacking in the Dems. I don’t vote Dem because I think it’s the “right” thing to do, I vote my self interest—just like everyone else. I’ve been working in the construction biz since the Carter administration, and despite the pearl-clutching and couch-fainting over the interest rates during the Carter years, it’s only been during Republican administrations that I had layoffs and lost work. The old timers back in the 70s and 80s liked to reminiscence about how bad it was in 72-73. Funny how that little tid-bit gets lost in this cycle of construction down turn
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 28th, 2010
8:30 pm
I guess Sooth doesn’t know what the purpose of a business is.
Yet another victim of public schooling.
Paul
December 28th, 2010
8:32 pm
Fred 8:25
You’re welcome.
8:27 – I was using part of your post to illustrate a larger concept – wasn’t meant as a personal observation. That part of your post seems to be a Rule to Live By for many bloggers.