Gingrich, Palin have no shot at being GOP presidential nominee
She can kiss dreams of the White House goodbye.
Bill Kristol, the Fox News analyst and Weekly Standard editor, made a couple of predictions on Fox News Sunday about the GOP presidential race:
“Can I go out on a limb, since everyone else is scared to say — actually make any predictions. I predict Palin will not run. I have no knowledge at all; I just have the hunch that she ultimately will not run.
I think Newt Gingrich is underestimated. Newt is going to run and Newt will be formidable. People can talk about the baggage, but lots of candidates have had lots of baggage, and people think they’re the right guy for the job, he could do better — and I do think — than people expect.”
Kristol has been an advocate for Palin in the past, so his prediction about her candidacy is interesting in that light. I also think he’s correct. Palin has peaked politically, and will be taken less and less seriously from here on out. A year from now, she’ll be considered little more than a curiosity. Public Policy Polling — admittedly, a Democratic-leaning polling firm — says that even in Alaska, her popularity has plummeted. Only 33 percent of her home-state voters now see her favorably, while 58 percent have an unfavorable impression of their former half-term governor. Among Alaska independents, 65 percent rate her unfavorably, and only 25 percent have a favorable opinion. In fact, of the 10 states surveyed by PPP, only Massachusetts gave Palin a lower favorability rating than Alaska.
Been there, done that, next joke please.
Sorry, no nomination for you, either.
On Gingrich, however, I think Kristol’s dead wrong. Like Kristol, I now believe that Gingrich will probably run, and his glib tongue will ensure he gets media coverage. But in general, people don’t like Newt and people don’t trust him, and people want to like and trust their president. And in Newt’s case, the more exposure he gets on the campaign trail, the less he’ll be liked and trusted. He is not a person who wears well over time.
I wouldn’t care to guess at this point who the GOP nominee will be. It just won’t be either of these two, and for that fact the country and the Republican Party ought to be thankful.
– Jay Bookman
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Adam
December 28th, 2010
4:52 pm
Why not indeeeeeeed?
Because it’s pointless. Birthers will not be satisfied with ANY evidence that comes from any source they deem to be untrustworthy (which is basically anyone in any government office anywhere). Proof:
“Taitz said she would only be satisfied if she and a private detective she works with were granted access to all the original paper work and allowed to carry out tests.”
You can read more on my take on this here
sharecropper
December 28th, 2010
4:52 pm
Ah, too bad. Palin would have made an excellent punching bag for Obama and for the comics, and ol’ Newt could have explained his many marriages, how he dumped ‘em, his disgrace in Congress and the shady funneling of tax dollars to the course he himself taught at that obscure junior college, and many other Newtisms. But Palin, who once quit immediately after saying she doesn’t quit, is making a bunch more money than she could as president — or really, having hubby Todd as president — and ideally for her intellectual capacity, absolutely no accountability. Too bad. Now Obama will have to work for his re-election. Although take all the time you want to pick an opponent from that group of GOP dweebs.
Harry Callahan
December 28th, 2010
4:52 pm
“Chris Matthews, the anchor of MSNBC’s “Hardball” program, is now calling for Barack Obama to release his original, long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate to put to rest any doubts about the president’s constitutional eligibility to hold office.
On last night’s edition of his show, Matthews stated: “I am not a birther. I am an enemy of the birthers.” But he continued with the questions, “Why doesn’t the president just say, ‘Send me a copy right now?’ Why doesn’t Gibbs and Axelrod say, ‘Let’s just get this crappy story dead?’ Why not do it? … If it exists, why not put it out?”
OMG, don’t tell AmVet and josef…no doubt the notion that their most respected news source, MSNBC, is now on the “birther” train will cause heads to explode all over…
dw
December 28th, 2010
4:52 pm
as long as socialist bho goes. it doesn’t matter. it’s all good then.
gahanson
December 28th, 2010
4:52 pm
“A year from now, she’ll be considered little more than a curiosity” seems to me that many said the exact same thing in July 2009, how that turn out?
Once Palin starts campaigning full time in spring or summer 2009, she’ll become unstoppable. She’ll steamroll Gingrich, Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, etc., making them only speedbumps on her road to the White House.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
4:53 pm
Harry Callahan@4:35 pm
I see the English Language is not your strong suit. It says minimum. And Bush Sr. was in ONLY during WWII.
Jimmy Carter went into the Naval Academy in 1943 and left the service in 1953. By my count 10 years. Let’s see if MATH is your strong suit. SInce Reading isn’t.
Maroon
AmVet
December 28th, 2010
4:53 pm
“He could swim much better than his brother.”
frog, now that’s funny and awful at the same time!
Chip
December 28th, 2010
4:54 pm
I would vote for Charlie Brown over Obama.
Granny Godzilla
December 28th, 2010
4:54 pm
Harry
Pops is a hero.
Get that straight.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
4:54 pm
It’s one thing to ask for evidence. It’s another thing to only ask for evidence so that any evidence presented can be rejected in favor of moving the goal posts, asking for MORE evidence, until finally you realize you were wrong but never admit it. See John McCain for an example of how to act this way.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
4:55 pm
K’chak
“I’m just waiting for TuEsDaY VaNdY GiRl to make an appearance.”
Me, too, especially now that Andy’s gone…
10 Most Dangerous Jobs
1.Fisherman
2.Logger
3.Airline (not fighter) pilot
4.Farmers
5. Roofers
6.Ironworkers
7. Sanitation workers
8. Industrial machinist
9. Truckers driver/delivery
10. Construction workers
Tommy Maddox
December 28th, 2010
4:55 pm
I like Newt. We all have baggage [yes, each and ever one of you] but it wasn’t a hindrance to his performance. I was in DC one day and dropped by the Speaker’s office in DC only to find he wasn’t there. The next day, he walked right into me at the North Roswell Rotary Club and I asked him why he wasn’t at his office…found out he had two.
Harry Callahan
December 28th, 2010
4:58 pm
Common Sense…Bush enlisted (was not drafted) which means he had to serve a longer tour than a draftee. My understanding is that this was done so that guys wouldn’t “cherry pick” and enlist in branches they viewed as less dangerous in order to avoid the draft. AmVet can no doubt clarify.
But since enlisting, and serving a longer tour, is no doubt more than the minimum, I can only conclude that neither math NOR English Language is your strong suit.
Hopefully, you have something else to fall back on, else I foresee a long unhappy future of government dependency for you.
Dont believe in the Change
December 28th, 2010
4:58 pm
Whoever runs they had better be tough and to the point. They had better be for law and order. They had better be for the American people and America itself. They had better get rid of the 1st welfare system and the 2nd welfare system called unemployment. They had better start drilling for our own oil and gas, and they had better start watching countries like China. They had better set up a CIA that deals with nothing else other then treason and start taking care of our boarders. If they dont, the US of A will be the US of Corrution and a muslim territory if its not already. GOD help America.
Dusty
December 28th, 2010
4:59 pm
HARRY CALLAHAN,
Please stay with us every day. What a pleasure to see actual reasoning and the downgrade of the usual liberal litanies that haunt this blog.
You even got the Croix de Guerre from Bookman. That proves you are indeed a general in the battle of the blog. Salute!!
Harry Callahan
December 28th, 2010
4:59 pm
“Pops is a hero.”
That’s not what I asked you. I asked you if he was a liberal. Why else would he throw a fellow combat vet under the bus?
paleo-neo-Carlinist aka Joe the Plutocrat
December 28th, 2010
5:00 pm
Harry, all things considered, I think Reagan’s reputation as a conservative icon is so much (what was the word you used?) revisionist “spin”. but since you asked; there was the amnesty for illegals (what part of illegal did he not understand?), the invasion of Grenada to “rescue” a handful of American students too stupid to get into a decent Medical School in the USA (some suggest the Grenada crusade was divert attention from the bombing of the USMC barracks in Lebanon, but I won’t pile on). but perhaps the biggest beef I have with Reagan was his introduction of debt-fueled spending (”…deficits don’t matter…” as observed by Darth Cheney). and again, I never said Clinton was a beacon of character, but his moral flaws didn’t get people killed (except for those killed by the cruise missiles he sent into Afghanistan and the Sudan after the Embassy bombings, and we know the dead ones were all bad guys). so, you can dismiss the arms for hostages (and getting in bed with cocaine smugglers, while ramping up the war on drugs), but since I am not married to Bill Clinton, and Monica Lewinsky was an adult, what happens between two consenting adults does not concern me.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
5:00 pm
Frog
You just bad!
Real Scooter…
Let’s do come back to that…I’m interested…BTW I’ m no JFK groupie…
Tommy Maddox
December 28th, 2010
5:03 pm
Oh Granny:
George Bush’s TBD was SHOT DOWN over Chichi Jima. He stayed at the controls skidding his aircraft to the left until his other 2 crew members could slip out the back door…and there is a back door on those things. Then, he leaped out of his dying aircraft and got picked up by the Skipjack before the Japanese long boat could get him.
Nice try at history. No; pitiful attempt at history.
Harry Callahan
December 28th, 2010
5:03 pm
paleo…nice rant…more than a little fact-challenged, but too wordy to bother refuting. You win…Reagan was a closet liberal. Leaves me wondering why you libs don’t adore him though.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
5:03 pm
Dont believe in the Change
December 28th, 2010
4:58 pm
————————
No Hope.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
5:04 pm
HARRY
You don’t pay a lot of attention before you shoot, do you? I don’t presuppose to speak for AmVet, but I hold MSNBC in lower regard than Fox when it comes to the talking heads…and that’s pretty d*mned low…
Doggone/GA
December 28th, 2010
5:04 pm
“Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/25/us/25hawaii.html
Harry Callahan
December 28th, 2010
5:05 pm
Tommy Maddox…don’t bother reasoning with Granny. I don’t know why I bothered…its pointless. She is immune to facts.
Harry Callahan
December 28th, 2010
5:07 pm
Dusty, thanks. One does what one can. Unlike the libbies, though, I have a job. Usually one afternoon per week of enlightenment for the liberal masses is all I can spare.
David
December 28th, 2010
5:07 pm
Ladies and Gentelmen the ever deep and always thoughtful Jay Bookman! It’s just a shame that Mr. Bookman doesn’t wear well over time.
Harry Callahan
December 28th, 2010
5:08 pm
“Because it’s pointless. Birthers will not be satisfied with ANY evidence that comes from any source they deem to be untrustworthy ”
…a position that affords one a nice dodge if/when one does not, in fact, have the necessary documents…
Real Scooter
December 28th, 2010
5:08 pm
Real Scooter…
Let’s do come back to that…I’m interested…BTW I’ m no JFK groupie
Maybe we could get Jay to do a JFK thread instead of a Palin thread,it would certainly be more interesting.
Hootinanny Yum Yum
December 28th, 2010
5:09 pm
Speaking of “shot”.
Have you noticed how many murders and shootings are occurring in metro Atlanta?
Are these people not animals that should be put down?
The thrill is Gone
December 28th, 2010
5:11 pm
Adam
In your article, you mention 22% are birthers.
Chris Mathews mentions 48% of Americans are not sure or believe that Obama is illegal. (NYT poll).
Do you not think that 48% of Americans deserve an answer.?
Chris Mathews, that weirdo from Mother Jones, and Clarence Page seem to think so.
Also I asked you a question on your South-bashing blog entry.
What is IMMORAL about seccession?
Harry Callahan
December 28th, 2010
5:11 pm
Granny Godzilla
December 28th, 2010
4:37 pm
“Bush 41′ and his flight record drives my pop nuts.
Pop says only a coward wouldn’t go back and attempt to save his crew.
He let those boys die.”
The more I think about this, the more it ticks me off. What does “Pops” think Mr. Bush should have done that he didn’t do?
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
5:14 pm
Harry Callahan@4:58 pm
Harry – I hope you do a better job at work checking facts than you do here. George H. W. Bush was commissioned June 9, 1943 and left the service Sept 1945. Just a little over 2 years. Also a draftee during WWII was drafted for the duration plus 6 months so possibly longer than Bush Sr. Get your facts straight.
Tommy Maddox
December 28th, 2010
5:14 pm
If anybody could pick up their still floating-by-parachute crewman from the air while their aircraft was plunging in flames toward the Pacific and deliver them safely to the US Navy prior to impact with the sea surface, then that might qualify as a HERO in the eyes of a liberal. I guess all those others who bought the sea were losers.
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 28th, 2010
5:14 pm
Gingrich and Palin have a couple of things going for them that Obama does not–they aren’t hoping “America’s chickens come home to roost” and they don’t have domestic terrorist friends who wipe their feet on the American flag and regret they didn’t set more bombs against their fellow citizens.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
5:15 pm
Tommy Maddox
December 28th, 2010
5:03 pm
———————————————-
I also read that he was picked up in a raft, the only
survivor. His own published accounts differ. However
this proves nothing other than combat related memories
often change over time. None varied significantly from
the log entries of the rescue vessel.
carlosgvv
December 28th, 2010
5:15 pm
Political ambition does strange things to people. Look at all the candidates we had in the Governor’s primary. I expect Palin and Gingrich will do everything they possibly can to get the nomination and, considering how looney the Tea Party GOP has become, they just might get it. Let’s just hope the American people still have some common sense left and not elect these losers.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
5:15 pm
Scooter
I ain’t out to rile the Bruin myself by bringing up JFK in an unflattering light…he’s already deemed me a heretic once today! I’m telling you, that rabbi of AmVet’s done put him in a mood!
paleo-neo-Carlinist aka Joe the Plutocrat
December 28th, 2010
5:19 pm
Harry, we agree. reagan was very much a ‘closet liberal’. not that I don’t understand why the neo-cons have re-packaged him (and more importantly, his predecesor from Plains, GA). I will not respond to your “fact challenged” comment. I’m off the grid for the next 18 hours.
Dusty
December 28th, 2010
5:19 pm
Well, just a little thinking here about Sarah Palin. The thing about Sarah is the fact that she comes across as the “real American”, the kind you want to remember and wish for again.
She is the staunch mother who does not turn on her children when they make a mistake or come with disabilities. She makes no claims to the elite and enjoys being from Alaska and it’s wild environment. If you met her at the supermarket she would smile and speak. She had the advantages of fine parents, a college degree, a supportive husband and successful experience in government at the local and state level. She is bright in mind, personality and experience. For all that, she bears up well under vitriolic political “persecution”.
If Sarah Palin comes as a normal, welecomed sight to many Americans, I find it no surprise. She is superbly like them and they know it.
Abrazos
December 28th, 2010
5:20 pm
Oldtimer @ 4:52 “I think that if the media ignored Palin, she would disappear quickly.”
Right you are. I think the same could be said for “Harry Callahan” and some other Tourette’s Syndrome posters here. Deprive a cyber-narcissist of attention and it’s like taking away his air supply. ¿Están de acuerdos?
Tommy Maddox
December 28th, 2010
5:20 pm
Go read James Bradley’s “Flyboys”. The Japanese guard that was standing post on a mountain top watching Bush’s parachute land in the water did not think he stuck around too long bobbing about in the sea.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
5:21 pm
…a position that affords one a nice dodge if/when one does not, in fact, have the necessary documents…
Well hey, maybe he doesn’t. I sure don’t have my original BC. I only have a copy issued from my state of birth. It was plenty enough for me to get other documents and employment. I really don’t see why one should be responsible for having the original when copies, issued and certified by the state in question, are available.
Also Thrill I answered your question on my article. As for the 48%, They’ve been given evidence that normally would convince everyone but the most diehard believers in the opposite. Some of them haven’t seen or don’t know about it. Those articles that help prove it are all cited in my other article on the subject and I have followed this one for a while now. The evidence is actually much more than I would have expected to get out of any candidate for office undergoing the same scrutiny prior to 2008. I haven’t seen this much evidence of innocence offered up in anything else but late night cop/court shows.
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 28th, 2010
5:21 pm
Reagan may have been a classical liberal, you know, the kind that believe in liberty. But as he once said, the Democrat party left HIM. It’s been a long time since Democrats were for freedom, except of course the freedom to kill your unborn child.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
5:24 pm
Also I should mention that everyon I know in person who believes Obama wasn’t born in the U.S., that’s 100% of anyone I know mind you…. as soon as I say I can prove Obama was born here, the conversation stops. They don’t want to see the evidence, they just want to believe what they believe. Maybe it’s my in person presentation but it’s hard for me to understand.
Real Scooter
December 28th, 2010
5:25 pm
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
5:15 pm
ROFLMAO josef!!!!
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
5:28 pm
DUSTY
“She is superbly like them and they know it.”
Or as Faulkner’s Gavin Stevens would say…
“… who are the only people on earth who brag publicly of being second rate, i.e. lowbrows… ”
I agree, though, that the reason so many don’t like her is she’s too much like them. I like Sister Sarah well enough, but I don’t think she belongs in the White House…I don’t think I do either…
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
5:32 pm
josef, I liked her best in the photoshopped picture
wrapped in the flag with an assault rifle. had they
used that as a campaign poster, they might have
done better….
The thrill is Gone
December 28th, 2010
5:35 pm
Adam
Yes, it is hard to understand.
Call me a stickler, but the fact that Obama admitted taking cocaine should have barred him from the Presidency or CNC . Along with GW. No military person could EVER have a top secret clearance if they joined with a drug waiver. Until the laws are changed, the president shouldn’t either.
I know that actually obeying the law is old-fashioned among the political elites.
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
5:38 pm
Harry, I have got to hand it to you. No matter what the subject you can get it wrong. Mathews was asking the question why not turn it over. As pointed out by one of his commentators, what has been made public is sufficient for a passport or even working for the CIA. All 3 pointed that even if hte “long form” was posted 20% would still claim it was faked. Chris also stated he “is an enemy of the birthers” (his words)…but I guess that fact did not fit your dishonest spin.
Now next time you watch MSNBC, here is the plan….watch, listen, try to comprehend.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
5:39 pm
I didn’t realize we were talking about Obama’s drug use.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
5:39 pm
Enter your comments hereThe thrill is Gone
December 28th, 2010
5:35 pm
—————————————————-
Unfortunately, the American people get to elect
who they want. Except in Florida.
Adam
December 28th, 2010
5:40 pm
All 3 pointed that even if hte “long form” was posted 20% would still claim it was faked.
This was one of my original points.
cause
December 28th, 2010
5:44 pm
a republican will win in 2012 because people are just that stupid. gas prices will shoot up. still can’t figure out especially in this economy why middle class people think they can afford that. ceo’s will get richer and the american worker will get poorer. and less will have jobs. but look on the bright side there will be another war and you can still get a job away from your family where you’ll have the opportunity and good fortune to be patriotic enough to get shot in the head in some little bs country somewhere in some back water of the world that our people are too stupid and ignorant to know where it is or even how to pronounce it’s name correctly. the drug companies, defense contractors, the oil companies, the energy companies, healthcare companies, wall street, etc. will all be making tons of money even if they go bankrupt. but at least it won’t be one of those green toothed horned devil liberals as president. cause you know how bad that might be, i mean a president having oral sex instead of starting a war to kill our boys in. death is patriotic and a bj is just horrible.
Joel
December 28th, 2010
5:45 pm
HERMAN CAIN IS RUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 28th, 2010
5:45 pm
Well, y’all quit picking on Harry or he’s going to go and have a stroke. You know his heart is Right, even if he’s a little light upstairs.
Have a good night everybody.
Joe
December 28th, 2010
5:46 pm
You could be right Jay about Palin not running but dead wrong about Newt not winning. He certainly has the intellect to win and will be far more gifted than any other candidate while speaking on the issues. As Juan Williams said about Palin the same could be said about Obama. He couldn’t possibly stand on the same intellectual stage as Gingrich. It will be interesting though. Whoever the Republicans nominate Obama is sure to lose anyway. He has certainly lacked in the leadership category and been the most inept President in my lifetime. By the way, I was around during the Carter debacle….
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
5:47 pm
cause
Is your boy one of those? Mine is and was sent to Afghanistan by the Democrat president CinC…
and, really, do you hold your fellow Americans in such low regard? You, I assume, are e pluriborum unus…
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
5:48 pm
Adam….absolutely right. The best Scout could do last night was to claim that there could be some fraudulent activity that possible could have worked through the statutory language. That was after he first made a claim about the statutory language which I proved was not enacted until 18 years after Obama’s 1961 birth. So the best they have is a “feeling” that something is not right. If they had any thing else, they could have gotten any one of the mulitple legal cases to trial.
Its pure nonsense and anyone who believes it has to admit they have absolutely nothing but a hunch or they might as well be telling us the moon is made of green cheese.
So 20% of Americans are really proven idiots.
Paul
December 28th, 2010
5:51 pm
“All 3 pointed that even if the “long form” was posted 20% would still claim it was faked.”
Rule of Thumb: 20-25 percent of the population will believe anything.
Fang1944
December 28th, 2010
5:51 pm
Well, we can hope the GOP won’t be stupid enough to run either one of these Fox News employees.
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
5:53 pm
I bet Clinton would love to see Newt run…..Newt, payback will be hell!
Adam
December 28th, 2010
5:53 pm
Keep up the good fight: So the best they have is a “feeling” that something is not right
yeah, that’s called racism.
Joel
December 28th, 2010
5:54 pm
If you dont support Cain, you are a racist!
Dusty
December 28th, 2010
5:54 pm
Well, mark me as one who does not worry one minute about when & where the President was born. He’s got a birth certificate. That’s good enough. What worries me is what kind of president he may finally be.
The president is a nice guy. No doubt about that. But I can’t help but believe he is overpowered in the WhiteHouse. His decisions seem to be more a compilation of his asociates decisions than any principle of his own. He seems more concerned with minutia than the momentous.
Yes, I am referring to police squabbles with a college professor, the choices of a football star Vick. Why does he bother? Then there seems to be a definite desire to stay OUT of the Oval office and travel. Whether for fun or government business, he seems to be in the air much of the time. No feet on the ground for Obama. He’s out of “there”.
His successes seem more those of a Democratic led congress than those of the President. He proudly signs papers like a good president should. It almost seems like a game. I am afraid it IS just a poltical game and dream he had, a dream of being a leader but not able to perform the reality.
We shall see. Perhaps Democrats should worry about their own candidate in the next election instead of buzzing around conservatives. They might find they need to look around themselves.
Kamchak
December 28th, 2010
5:55 pm
By the way, I was around during the Carter debacle….
So?
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
5:56 pm
Adam
“yeah, that’s called racism”
You’re too intelligent to make a comment like that…
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
6:01 pm
Adam, I have to agree with Nix. I think the best we can say is that some of them are racists, some are just too gullible to check what they read and to do research, some don’t care about the truth and repeat it for political points. I actaully suspect Harry is in the 3d category but he can “refudiate”
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
6:02 pm
John Mccain was born in Panama, his ‘natural born’
status should have been questioned more than Obama’s
status.
Scout
December 28th, 2010
6:03 pm
So …………… while all of us were warm and snuggly a Georgia Trooper (and father of two sons) was murdered by a perp. that GBI Vernon Keenan described as having a “lengthy criminal record”.
Therefore, the question I propose is not “why” this sociopath did what he did but why he was “free” to to it ?
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
6:03 pm
good fight
And some otherwise reasonable people can get caught up in a conspiracy theory and go plumb off the deep end…as we saw last p.m.
Scout
December 28th, 2010
6:04 pm
No takers on this earlier one? Jay?
Jay:
I had an early morning appointment and didn’t get to post anything on your previous thread regarding the Constitution. Allow me to do so now ……………..
A) The individuals you quoted were pretty much on target regarding the intent of the Constitution regarding federal projects.
B) Obviously, they couldn’t have imagined some or all of the original intent that needed to be modified to accommodate our modern country and viewpoints.
The question is how do you get from A) to B) without cheapening/prostituting the Constitution?
You have two choices:
#1 Submit to rule by judicial oligarchy (usurpation) forcing the Constitution mean what you want it to mean at any given time.
#2 Amend it based on the will of the people and evolving events/viewpoints.
Obviously, #1 is much faster while #2 passes Constitutional muster.
Washington spoke of this very principle that we have so flippantly disregarded:
“If in the opinion of the People, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.” George Washington
We were warned.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
6:05 pm
If 9/11 had not occurred how many think Bush would have been re-elected?
Do you think he would have gone the way of his father (one term) or found another excuse to get in a war with Iraq?
Dawg '88
December 28th, 2010
6:06 pm
The country wants someone the like and trust?
Then that eliminates Obama running in 2012 as well.
He is a liar…and the nation’s most vulnerable can’t trust him to allow them to live…the unborn cry out for a remedy and at least the awful Gingrinch (sarcasm) would at least try to save their lives.
I would rather have Newt with his new found faith and principles than a man who calls a baby a “mistake”….or one who votes against a bill saving the life of an baby who survives an abortion. Anyone with such ideas is dangerous to the American public.
Make fun of Palin and Newt Boredman all you like…you don’t have a clue what a candidate of character was if it bit you in the butt. You’re a liberal who likely voted for Clinton, Obama and possibly John Edwards. I’m used to hearing liberals bash other people because they disagree with them.
Obama bashed common citizens whom he claims to be fighting for. He is a far left wing liberal who supports immoral behavior and the killing (murder) of the unborn. Yeah….he’s a much better choice than Newt and Palin.
Scout
December 28th, 2010
6:06 pm
Excuse me: “GBI Director Vernon Keenan”
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
6:07 pm
Frog
Did the Canal Zone have a long form, though?
Chris Matthews
December 28th, 2010
6:07 pm
Boy…you sure are dumb! Just don’t get ..do you!
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
6:08 pm
Agreed Nix….but that is not to equate the truther with the birther positions. There is clear evidence on the birther. There are many questions about what happened for the truthers. I dont agree with the truthers but I understand the issues and the questions. Understanding the nuances of the engineering and structure of the WTC towers and the collapse and questions about the reaction of materials under stress can have reasonable professional disagreement. I think it falls into the same category of FDR knew about Pearl Harbor in advance…..there was smoke but no fire.
Birthers have not even got smoke..they only have complete fabrication.
Real Scooter
December 28th, 2010
6:08 pm
Dang,it’s getting kinda boring here.Must be cause Harry didn’t make it to page 6.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
6:09 pm
Peadawg
The only candidate I’ve seen Jay “admit” to voting for was Reagan…
Kamchak
December 28th, 2010
6:10 pm
You’re a liberal who likely voted for Clinton, Obama and possibly John Edwards.
No, no and no.
Thank you for playing though. Vanna has some lovely parting gifts—including a lifetime supply of Rice-A-Roni, The San Francisco Treat!
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
6:11 pm
Scout@6:03 pm
I asked myself the same question.
Sad and disgusting.
Scout
December 28th, 2010
6:11 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight ! :
My dad can whip your dad !
Scout
December 28th, 2010
6:13 pm
Common Sense isn’t very Common:
………. and no one in the judcial system will be held accountable for the blood on their hands. How do they look themselves in the mirror?
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
6:13 pm
Scout…. do we have to review the perps records and the convictions, time served and other facts. Sorry if I dont jump on the “any criminal must be locked up forever for any crime” bandwagon. As for his family, nice emotional play but there are unfortunately plenty of families losing loved ones because of crimes including texting while driving. I am sorry that any state trooper or anyone loses their lives to any criminal or stupid act. Generic statements and rants are just not useful in any way.
RW-(the original)
December 28th, 2010
6:14 pm
conspiracy theory and go plumb off the deep end…as we saw last p.m.
josef,
Was that the Sootherism conspiracy theory or our Reptilian one?
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
6:15 pm
good fight…
In my opinion both truthers and birthers have gotten bitten by the conspiracy bug…
Scout
December 28th, 2010
6:15 pm
Keep up the good fight ! :
………. add yourself to the mirror analogy.
Del
December 28th, 2010
6:15 pm
Most recent polls continue to show that a majority disapprove of President Obama. I think that the majority of those who disapprove are not so much concerned with his birth certificate as they are his failure to focus on the priorities of this country instead of his own ideological agenda. His arrogance, narcissism and disregard for the peoples will have been his trade mark.
Keep up the good fight!
December 28th, 2010
6:15 pm
Scout, why is it that your response to a point/counter-point with words is violence? The last resort when you have clearly lost?
Adam
December 28th, 2010
6:17 pm
The “feeling” that something is wrong with President Obama, that he doesn’t deserve to be president, and finding any excuse to make that a practical possibility despite evidence… it really is all about racism. Now I’m nto saying everyone is racist who is now against the president. I’m only saying those that believe that Obama wasn’t born in the U.S. fervently, despite ANY evidence ever presented, are redirecting there because they have a deep seated hatred of the man, and that is motivated by a visceral racism that few will admit to and it’s doubtful they even know themselves well enough to know that’s what’s happening. My mom claims she’s not a racist, but she does and says things all the time that show she still believes black people are inferior in some way. The same is true of MANY people in the south. Not all, but many. It’s fairly obvious when you pay attention to what people say and do when they think they’re not being watched.
I’m not saying all this to “pull the race card,” I’m just calling it like I see it. I am, btw, a white, straight male. I don’t have to be black or gay to have the stance on the issues that I do.
So I stand by my statement. The “feeling” that something is wrong (with relation to Obama’s birth) is motivated by racism.
Jay
December 28th, 2010
6:17 pm
Not quite Josef. I voted for Gerald Ford over Carter (and proudly so.)
But Reagan took the Republican Party — what I viewed at the time as my natural party — where I could not go. “Supply-side economics,” for example, seemed to me an insult to voters’ intelligence, and I also could not accept the party’s increasing alliance with social conservatives. So at the presidential level, it’s been Democrats ever since.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
6:17 pm
RW
The Sootherian, of course. There’s evidence to back up the reptilian one. Bada told me in confidence…
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
6:18 pm
RW-(the original)
Was that the Sootherism conspiracy theory or our Reptilian one?
——————
I liked the reptilian one the best
Bulldawg
December 28th, 2010
6:19 pm
Palin won’t run, she has to much fun keeping the main stream media running for cover. Newt has to much baggage. George Washington is about to announce, The Republican nominee is Herman Cain. America is tired of the Kings and Queens who think it’s their turn to run the country and then came the store clerk and look where that got us, it’s time for a real American, one who listens to the People so get to know him before you say no because it’s time to raise a little Cain……..
http://www.weeklyrepublic.com
Kamchak
December 28th, 2010
6:19 pm
So I stand by my statement.
Good for you. Don’t be shamed or guilt-ed into retractions.
barking frog
December 28th, 2010
6:20 pm
Common Sense isn’t very Common
December 28th, 2010
6:05 pm
————————————————
GW Bush may not be an intellectual but he is smart.
While Karl Rove is given credit for GW’s success,
you must remember who employed who. He beat
an incumbent VP in a very unconvential way. His
use of the Clinton Surplus to reduce taxes was
brilliant from a political standpoint but disastrous
for the US debt situation. I saw no opponent that
could have beaten him for the second term.
Cunning beats intellect in the Political jungle.
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
6:20 pm
Sorry Jay and thanks for the correction…I knew it was a GOP’er…somehow I just don’t have you fixed in mind as old enough to have voted for Ford! Again, my apologies and whew! I’m relieved to hear that! I didn’t vote for Ford myself, but of all the presidents in my lifetime, he’s the one I respect the most…
Del
December 28th, 2010
6:21 pm
Adam, if you’re saying that the opposition to Obama is really all about racism, you’re branding a lot of Americans as racists.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 28th, 2010
6:24 pm
Jay how did you vote for Pres. in ‘72?
josef nix
December 28th, 2010
6:24 pm
And Adam I would posit that your determination that this is somehow Southern puts you in the same visceral category only with a different target group…