The results of the Pentagon’s ten-month assessment of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell have now been released. Here’s the money quote:
“Based on all we saw and heard, our assessment is that, when coupled with the prompt implementation of the recommendations we offer below, the risk of repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell to overall military effectiveness is low. We conclude that, while a repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell will likely, in the short term, bring about some limited and isolated disruption to unit cohesion and retention, we do not believe this disruption will be widespread or long-lasting, and can be adequately addressed by the recommendations we offer below. Longer term, with a continued and sustained commitment to core values of leadership, professionalism, and respect for all, we are convinced that the U.S. military can adjust and accommodate this change, just as it has others in history.”
In remarks today, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates endorsed the report’s findings and strongly urged “the Senate to pass this legislation and send it to the president for signature before the end of this year.”
“Given the present circumstances, those that choose not to act legislatively are rolling the dice that this policy will not be abruptly overturned by the courts,” Gates said, warning that a court-imposed change would be “by far the most disruptive and damaging scenario I can imagine, and the one most hazardous to military morale, readiness and battlefield performance.”
The country is ready. The military is ready. The time for waiting has passed; the time for acting has finally come.
“For years now I have heard the word ‘Wait!’” an impatient Martin Luther King Jr. wrote from the Birmingham jail. “It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This ‘Wait’ has almost always meant ‘Never.’ We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that ‘justice too long delayed is justice denied’.”
No more waiting. No more excuses.
545 comments Add your comment
j$
November 30th, 2010
8:21 pm
Gee, this one hasn’t been covered before…how about some palin or evolution or bush done lied or abortion?
scrub a dub
ain’t nuthin’ here a little soap and sock can’t handle.
Moderate Line
November 30th, 2010
8:22 pm
Jay
November 30th, 2010
8:20 pm
Moderate, if you reread that post, you’ll see that I was quoting a Wikipedia article, the same one that TGT had selectively quoted earlier.
+++
Sorry my bad!
RW-(the original)
November 30th, 2010
8:23 pm
RW, if you’re out there, is this the same Honu that used to frequent your blog?
@@,
I don’t know. The first part sounded like her, but that rude comment on the end seems out of character.
jewcowboy,
What do you mean you hit a TV?
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
8:25 pm
@@
I’ll have to save that one for later…it is of great interest to me. The Ukraine is the wild card in the whole mix in my opinion and I’m looking forward to his take on it…
Doggone
I say that because you put (presumed) in parenthesis…
@@
November 30th, 2010
8:26 pm
Honu:
Didn’t wanna drag RW into this, but you weren’t responding. Since when did you start calling me AtAt? It was always @@ at the other location. Anyhoo…
I’ll ask again — your reason for linking to a photo of a guy in a thong when the blog subject is repealing DADT?
DADT is relative to the gay community in which there exist all different kinds of gays? Some more flamboyant than others?
Tell me, Honu….are you thinking I may be homophobic?
Mick
November 30th, 2010
8:26 pm
dave r
**WOW! Getting kudos on multiple fronts tonight!**
Yeah, sometimes you’re down rite respectable….
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
8:27 pm
@@
Are you homophobic? Seems I recall a certain shirt you were told not to wear in public…ISH
RW-(the original)
November 30th, 2010
8:27 pm
Oops! I guess it was.
Note to self: Save your comment and refresh the page before hitting Submit Comment.
Honu,
Are you feeling alright?
Moderate Line
November 30th, 2010
8:28 pm
As a general rule the pentagon is going to recommend whatever the president says to recommend so I don’t think that what it recommends matters or has much credibility. All that being said I have no problem with gays in the military.
However, it is interesting to note what percentage of the population is affected by Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. What is the percentage of people who are gay and want to be in military openly vs the percentage of people who are unemployed or underemployed.
We need to get people back to work and that will decide the next election.
Southern Comfort
November 30th, 2010
8:28 pm
HD
I’ve always wondered what it was like then. I remember coming across a story about a Black servicemember who was lynched in his uniform after coming home from WWI. I can’t remember the whole story, but that’s an image I haven’t been able to shake for more than 20 years. I’m just glad that there hasn’t been nearly the violence targeted at homosexual members of the military as was targeted at the previous “outsiders”. Hopefully when we’re all dead and gone, the younger generations will do away with discrimination altogether.
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
8:28 pm
Honu,
“your reason for linking to a photo of a guy in a thong when the blog subject is repealing DADT?”
I agree with @@ that there will most likely be unintended consequences in repealing DADT…anytime you change policy there is…but I’m curious as well as to what point men in thongs have to do with the military.
It seems just as illogical as linking these two:
http://www.mygtv.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mg_anne_dunwoody2.jpg
http://www.dvdcorral.com/dvd/images/max/655587424321.jpg
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
8:29 pm
jewcowboy
“What do you mean you hit a TV?”
Yeah, I was wondering about that, too…
Southern Comfort
November 30th, 2010
8:29 pm
Dave
Respect is seldom given, and it is almost always earned. You earned yours tonight with your 7:01 post. Enough Said!!
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
8:33 pm
Dave
SoCo’s @ 8:29
I second that…
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
8:33 pm
RW-(the original),
“What do you mean you hit a TV?”
I was coming back from the grocery store…it’s raining like crazy…I turn a corner and WHAM! A freaking old tube style 27″ tv sitting in the street. It broke my headlight and tore up my bumper.
I mean who freakin leaves a tv in the middle of the road?
Southern Comfort
November 30th, 2010
8:34 pm
Meant to say respect is seldom given freely…
md
November 30th, 2010
8:35 pm
“I mean who freakin leaves a tv in the middle of the road?”
The guy that thought he could carry it after ripping it off………………
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2010
8:36 pm
“I say that because you put (presumed) in parenthesis”
I put that because I agree with whoever said it’s not PROVEN that Jefferson had a relationship with her. I think he did, and that he fathered her children…but no, I can’t prove it. The evidence seems pretty strong, but it’s not strong enough to reach the level of absolute certainty.
And in any such relationship, unless we are one of the partners we can ONLY presume an affection existed. But we don’t really know. Women, in particular, have been pretty good at faking affection when it suited them. And even other women can be fooled.
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
8:36 pm
Dave R.,
And I give it a rousing 3rd…
RW-(the original)
November 30th, 2010
8:36 pm
jewcowboy,
Maybe it came from that twister in Buford.
I used to work on TV’s in my younger days. Those old picture tubes are deadly weapons. I tossed one of a ravine once and when I went down to see what the implosion had done I found a chunk of glass imbedded in the trunk of an oak far enough that I couldn’t move it.
TGT
November 30th, 2010
8:37 pm
Jay: You should know better than to presume. My (main) source: http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=99
@@
November 30th, 2010
8:37 pm
RW:
Since you’re here, I’ve been wondering…..do you ever hear from Devil Doll? Can you imagine her and josef here at jay’s? She was a hoot, not to mention very talented in her written presentations.
cowboy:
Would Mr. Thong be eligible to serve? Does wearing a leather thong in public denote a sense of integrity or gayness? Which would take precedent with Mr. Thong?
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
8:38 pm
Another point…we are transporting ourselves back in time and passing judgment on those long gone to their eternal one…do you ever wonder what Sally and Tommy’s pillow talk was…? Reckon maybe, just maybe, they talked about all this…?
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
8:39 pm
md,
“The guy that thought he could carry it after ripping it off…”
Probably…but what dumbass tries to steal a 27″ tube tv? How much can that even be worth when 42″ flatscreens go for $400?
All I know is it’s going to be another $500 deductible for me.
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
8:40 pm
Doggone
The DNA is in…and, yes, he was…that question has now been laid to rest…
the original and still the best John Galt
November 30th, 2010
8:41 pm
Allowing openly homosexual people to serve in the military won’t hurt the military much, because conditions are already pretty poor, so another “protected minority” isn’t going to make much difference.
Some units within the Air Force, Army, and Navy are in essence already just welfare groups. There are double standards and quotas thoughout; a black female can almost get away with murder. The Marines, Army Special Forces, and Navy SEALs are the exceptions.
It’s just a matter of time before some military schools, such as flight school, have to graduate a certain number of homosexuals just like they today have to graduate a certain number of women and minorities.
All that is just another result of promotion witnin the officer corps being based on the officer’s contribution to maintaining the military-industrial-congressional complex rather than being based on leadership and warfare competence.
And yes I served for 26 years.
RW-(the original)
November 30th, 2010
8:41 pm
do you ever hear from Devil Doll
Lord do I miss Double D. She was indeed a hoot and a fine person to boot.
I even found her weak spot that might let her switch teams for a night. (ISH)
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
8:41 pm
RW-(the original),
“glass imbedded in the trunk of an oak far enough that I couldn’t move it.”
Plus all the good ole mercury in them…
TGT
November 30th, 2010
8:41 pm
Just to clarify, on this thread, I never once quoted from Wikipedia.
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2010
8:41 pm
“we are transporting ourselves back in time and passing judgment on those long gone to their eternal one…do you ever wonder what Sally and Tommy’s pillow talk was”
Actually, I’m trying hard not to judge the people involved…only the situation in which they found themselves. But your question brings up one I’ve had for a long time…and that is the education level of Sally Hemings.
Dusty
November 30th, 2010
8:42 pm
What amazes me is the obvious lack of a word that is never mentioned. That word is MORALS. I know is has been subjugated, revised, excused, dismissed, explained, all in absentia. But it still hangs around.
Nobody could believe that Washington t’hought it wrong to own slaves. Or that Jefferson might NOT have been the father of Sally Hemmings children. It is beyond the present imagination to even think that someone might have strong MORALS. That they might resist doing what they wanted to do because it was wrong. That being human is all the excuse we need to do exactly as we please.
Then we tie morals with discrimination. If everyone can’t perform as they wish in any old way in any old place, then they are discriminated against. Young people learned quickly as they accepted drugs, cheating,alcohol and sex at your pleasure.
The sad fact is that morals came about to keep the human being out of trouble as much as possible. Few seem to realize that as they gaily do their “thing”. As Christians, we love them anyway. But the sad part is watching the deterioration that slowly ruins the body and soul when there was so much in the beginning..
md
November 30th, 2010
8:42 pm
“do you ever wonder what Sally and Tommy’s pillow talk was…?”
I’m a simple kind of guy……more like wonder if they even had pillows.
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2010
8:43 pm
“The DNA is in…and, yes, he was…that question has now been laid to rest…”
I haven’t heard about that. The last time I heard anything about the DNA – admittedly quite a few years ago…they could only say that it could have been Jefferson or a close relative, like a blood uncle.
Southern Comfort
November 30th, 2010
8:44 pm
In relation to the thong, if this soldier can serve his country proud, I don’t forsee any issues with thongs. At the same time, I don’t forsee thongs ever becoming standard issue uniform.
@@
November 30th, 2010
8:44 pm
Well, RW….it may surprise you to know that Devil Doll and I frequently talked about Bush.
schnirt.
Dave R.
November 30th, 2010
8:45 pm
I’m just feelin’ the LOVE tonight . . . !
Seriously, though, as you might have gleaned from earlier discussions on this blog about gay rights and equality, I take my belief in “What part of equal do you not understand?” very much to heart. That some members of our military can profess in one sentence their full and complete allegiance to our Constitution, and then claim that DADT is an acceptable policy is just a scalding indictment of our inability to get the simple concepts of that very simple document through some very thick heads.
John McCain included.
md
November 30th, 2010
8:45 pm
“but what dumbass tries to steal a 27″ tube tv?”
I think steal is the operative word……………..that should answer the dumbass part of the question.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 30th, 2010
8:46 pm
I mean who freakin leaves a tv in the middle of the road?
Reckon it fell off a truck?
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
8:48 pm
Doggone
Sally Hemmings was well educated according to what I’ve read…one of those little tidbits from history we tend to gloss over was the level and degree of learning of the elite in the slave community…it is intriguing to look over some of the photograph/portraits from the slavery period and see in just how many there are books open…
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2010
8:48 pm
“Reckon it fell off a truck?”
that was my first thought
Dave R.
November 30th, 2010
8:50 pm
And josef, the DNA is in, and it was concluded that SOME Jefferson was the father, but not necessarily Thomas Jefferson. There were other male Jeffersons frequenting Monticello, although Thomas is the likely suspect.
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2010
8:50 pm
“Sally Hemmings was well educated according to what I’ve read”
Thanks, that’s something I’ve long wondered about. If I remember correctly, her children were as well, especially one of the boys who traveled to France with Jefferson and was given some additional schooling while he was there. I think I’m remembering that correctly.
Dave R.
November 30th, 2010
8:51 pm
Gonna call it an early night tonight, folks.
Enjoyed it, as usual.
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
8:51 pm
@@,
“Would Mr. Thong be eligible to serve?”
I would imagine so as long as thong remained in the closet on days when he wasn’t on leave. But, I don’t know Mr. Thong personally, so I couldn’t really say.
“Does wearing a leather thong in public denote a sense of integrity or gayness?”
I would saying a wearing a leather thong in public denotes poor taste in fashion or a particular BDSM fetish…but I don’t think it denotes either integrity or gayness. And you should be careful how you word things…it could seem that you are saying one is either gay or has integrity. I don’t think that is what you are writing..but…
“Which would take precedent with Mr. Thong?”
Again I don’t know Mr. Thong personally. Do the women I posted at 8.28 have anything in common other than than anatomy?
Mick
November 30th, 2010
8:52 pm
hd@8:46
From jersey, my guess..
RW-(the original)
November 30th, 2010
8:53 pm
That s in schnirt doesn’t stand for (s)tupid does it?
@@,
Geena Davis had some pictures taken of her at an awards show that turned out to be extremely revealing. Somebody asked her about it later and she said it appeared she must be a bush supporter after all.
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
8:53 pm
Southern Comfort @ 8.44.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 30th, 2010
8:54 pm
Dave R’s 8:50, goes along with my understanding of things. Admittedly, I’m no expert.
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
8:55 pm
Doggone
I’ll have to go looking for it…I think (not sure) it was a PBS documentary…
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
8:56 pm
Dave R.,
“Gonna call it an early night tonight, folks.”
G’night.
TGT
November 30th, 2010
8:56 pm
“I just don’t think it’s legitimate to try to justify our own prejudices by citing theirs.”
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.
Southern Comfort
November 30th, 2010
8:57 pm
I don’t need a history book to tell me that TJ hit dat!!
josef
If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t it more common for people in Jefferson’s class in society to have some in-house educated slaves? Especially if they were like the personal servants that traveled with the owner…
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2010
8:58 pm
“I think (not sure) it was a PBS documentary…”
Actually, I think I’m remembering it from a documentary as well. I wasn’t completely happy with the one I saw because they represented Sally Hemings as a dark woman and I already knew that she wasn’t. I put it down to a reluctance to represent a (essentially) Caucasian woman as a slave, when the popular image is that of a dark slave.
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2010
8:59 pm
Time for me to go too…nite all.
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
9:00 pm
Y’all are right on the “possibility” of another Jefferson…it’s the “circumstantial” evidence combined with the scientific that, pretty much, seals it and one faction of the Jefferson descendents have accepted it as “fact…” The Monticello web site has an interesting read on it with some good links…
Del
November 30th, 2010
9:00 pm
There is no relationship with race, religion and sexual preference. It’s a stupid argument that just doesn’t hold up…
the original and still the best John Galt
November 30th, 2010
9:00 pm
All the DNA studies on the Hemings and the Jefferson descendants have proven is that the Hemings and the Jefferson descendants have a common male ancestor. All of the acknowledged Jefferson descendants are in the female line because Jefferson had no sons.
The President’s brother was known in their time for liking to hang around the slave quarters, so he seems the most likely candidate, unless the Marxist agenda to denigrate all the U.S. “Founding Fathers” as hypocrites is taken into account. Then the mania to connect Jefferson with Hemings is easily understood.
To this day the Hemings are not allowed to be buried in the Jefferson cemetary at Monticello.
See the “Thomas Jefferson Heritage Society” for further facts about the agenda that keeps hammering away at the memory of the greatest President we ever had.
TGT
November 30th, 2010
9:01 pm
Ravi Zacharias on homosexuality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIw6ngIqaD0
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
9:02 pm
I have to go as well…but I’ll leave this for @@ who seems to think gay men love thongs…
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_O6xLvXpZlOU/S3gdZoCn02I/AAAAAAAAFJQ/q8LZnChUsdY/s400/john-mayer-borat-thong.jpg
Southern Comfort
November 30th, 2010
9:02 pm
so he seems the most likely candidate, unless the Marxist agenda to denigrate all the U.S. “Founding Fathers” as hypocrites is taken into account.
I think that was my cue to exit stage left… Everything always has to be an agenda. Good grief!!
Later y’all…
Honu
November 30th, 2010
9:03 pm
Jewcowboy — you know, and I know, and everyone else here knows why that picture was linked on a DADT discussion blog.
RW — I can’t apologize for my rudeness, if that’s what you think it was. I’ve absolutely had it with the gay bashing.
AtAt — seriously, why post that picture on this blog? Whatever were you trying to say? Nothing pisses me off more than to see someone who normally has a logical argument come up with that crap. Yes, I do now believe you’re homophobic. Otherwise, why the link to that photo? Enough already.
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
9:03 pm
Galt
He may have liked “to hang around the slave quarters,” but Ms Hemmings didn’t live there and most probably did not even visit very often…the gulf between the big house and the lighter skinned and the slave quarters and darker skinned was wide…
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
9:04 pm
josef nix,
Before I go…since you brought up Israel, I wondered if you had ever read this:
http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Others-Arms-Making-Israeli/dp/1560233656/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
If not, I highly suggest it.
@@
November 30th, 2010
9:05 pm
cowboy:
A lot of I don’t knows in there, thus, proving my point…which, by the by, you agreed with. We don’t know what unintended consequences will result. The likes of Mr. Thong could be one of them.
I don’t think that is what you are writing..but…
I’ve quit concerning myself with how my posts are worded. If someone is determined to find sinister, they will….regardless of how I word it. What’s important is that I know what’s in my heart.
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
9:09 pm
SoCo
I have seen figures that upward of 20% of the slave population was literate…mostly, of course, the domestics and those involved in the industrial/artisan sectors…I may have shared with you elsewhere the story of the distillery…and that was not as unusual as we might think…and in the French South, the literacy rate was much higher than the English South…
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
9:11 pm
jewcowboy
Yes. At your suggestion…great read!
RW-(the original)
November 30th, 2010
9:11 pm
RW — I can’t apologize for my rudeness, if that’s what you think it was. I’ve absolutely had it with the gay bashing.
Honu,
I can’t agree with your assertion that @@ was gay bashing. Every time this discussion has come up there’s been a lingering question over “serving openly” that nobody seems to have a definition for. I took her link to show that there are some extremes (and her link wasn’t nearly as extreme as some that are readily available out there) that have to be taken into consideration for code of conduct type considerations that go along with the meaning of serving openly.
And for the record I didn’t say a word about whether you should or shouldn’t apologize. That isn’t my style and you well know that.
josef nix
November 30th, 2010
9:13 pm
As lively as it’s been…gotta check out myself…tomorrow’s predicted to be a rough one at work…g’night…
@@
November 30th, 2010
9:14 pm
Honu:
Yes, I do now believe you’re homophobic.
And you, Honu, couldn’t be more wrong in your belief.
I’ll answer to gays I consider dear friends know before I’ll answer to you.
Take your self-righteous indignation elsewhere, Honu. I’m not impressed.
the original and still the best John Galt
November 30th, 2010
9:15 pm
I believe if you check you will find that the slave quarters at Monticello are right next to the house; some were attached to the house, and that Sally Hemings did occupy rooms there. I believe which were her rooms are well known. They would have been easy for either Thomas or his brother to get to, and of course Ms. Hemings herself did work in the house.
A recently published report on the agenda to impune Jefferson’s integrity, as well as the factual errors made by those promoting that agenda can be found here:
http://www.tjheritage.org/WorksJefferson-HemingsArticle.pdf
Honu
November 30th, 2010
9:16 pm
RW — I totally disagree with the reason for that link (or any like it.) But you are correct about not asking me to apologize — just wanted you to know I wasn’t going to HAHAHAHAHAH
The end. . .
jewcowboy
November 30th, 2010
9:16 pm
@@,
“A lot of I don’t knows in there, thus, proving my point…which, by the by, you agreed with. We don’t know what unintended consequences will result. The likes of Mr. Thong could be one of them.”
I agree with your point about unintended consequences..b/c as I said before anytime you change policy that will happen. But you weaken your argument by posting a guy in thong, intimating that this is what the military could turn into. One has nothing to do with the other…it was gratuitous and doesn’t have anything to do with your central premise. It was just juvenile…
And on that I bid you a bonne nuit.
Dusty
November 30th, 2010
9:21 pm
Hey @@, good for you. You know what is in your heart. That is why it is always interesting to read what you have to say. No pretension…just thoughtful honesty… ..very nice….
@@
November 30th, 2010
9:21 pm
cowboy:
Oftentimes, everyone here refers to the extremes. The extreme right, the extreme left. There are extremes within the gay community that…one way or another….cannot be denied.
Like I said…people will see sinister where none exists. So be it.
Honu
November 30th, 2010
9:24 pm
I agree, you shouldn’t be impressed. You should be embarrassed.
Here’s to a better day of compassion and understanding tomorrow. . .
rae
November 30th, 2010
9:27 pm
the world would be a better place if everyone was bisexual…
@@
November 30th, 2010
9:28 pm
Honu:
Sorry to disappoint, but I have no reason to be embarrassed. Try again tomorrow, why don’tcha?
Winning Progressive
November 30th, 2010
10:48 pm
Now would be a good time to call your Senators to demand that they repeal DADT during the lame duck session. Contact info and key Senators to call are collected here:
http://www.winningprogressive.org/last-call-for-now-for-progressive-legislation-in-congress
Normal
December 1st, 2010
7:07 am
Definition of GAY. 1. a: happily excited : merry b: keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits.
Yep, I’m gay…
USinUK
December 1st, 2010
7:35 am
definition of irony: reading Normal’s definition of gay while watching Judy Garland sing “somewhere over the rainbow”
Jimmy62
December 1st, 2010
7:42 am
GOP leaders are one thing, but I’ll bet the average Tea Party influenced voter would be happy to end this ridiculous rule. I know I support repealing DADT, as do all my many conservative friends, none of whom hate gays. It’s possible to be conservative yet not religious in the gay is evil kind of way.
TaxPayer
December 1st, 2010
8:02 am
The Federal Reserve, under orders from Congress, plans today to identify recipients of $3.3 trillion in emergency aid the central bank provided as it fought the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.
The Fed intends to post the data on its website at midday in Washington to comply with a provision in July’s Dodd-Frank law overhauling financial regulation. The information spans six loan programs as well as currency swaps with other central banks, purchases of mortgage-backed securities and the rescues of Bear Stearns Cos. and American International Group Inc.
Oh NO! Shouldn’t WikiLeaks be given the opportunity to post their information prior to the government leaking all of it.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 1st, 2010
8:02 am
Normal@7:07 am
Definition of GAY. 1. a: happily excited : merry b: keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits.
Yep, I’m gay…
——————————–
You may be gay but you’re certainly not Normal
But then again most of us here aren’t
Mick
December 1st, 2010
8:07 am
Allright, took the shudders down, another hurricane season over without a hit. Still my insurance premiums are on the rise, where it will stop – nobody knows.
TaxPayer
December 1st, 2010
8:09 am
RICHMOND, Va. — A federal judge on Tuesday dismissed Liberty University’s lawsuit challenging the Obama administration’s new federal health care law, declaring that a provision requiring most individuals to obtain insurance is constitutional.
The ruling by U.S. District Judge Norman K. Moon in Lynchburg is the second court decision upholding the law, following one in Michigan in October. University law school dean Mathew Staver said in a telephone interview that he will promptly appeal the ruling to the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond.
Awwww! I guess the girls going wild at Liberty U. still get to have their insurance pay for their birth control pills.
Normal
December 1st, 2010
8:15 am
Common Sense isn’t very Common
December 1st, 2010
8:02 am
It would be a happier world if more people were like me….
AmVet
December 1st, 2010
8:18 am
Winning Progressive, oh yeah, baby. I can just imagine the canned non-response I’d get from that gutless SOB Saxby, that supposedly represents me. What a consummate embarrassment, even by Georgia’s standards. And now we have a sleazy governor to add to the list of Republican “accomplishments” in the past eight years.
Morning, gay Normal!.
That is my one complaint with the heterosexual crowd. They hijacked that lovely word. We need a referendum to get it back, dammit! And ditto on Common Sense’s last sentence. (Thank gawd!)
Mick, good news that you had no calamities down there this year. We just got pounded in Atlanta last night with some serious damage in the burbs. (Possible EF-2 tornado.)
AmVet
December 1st, 2010
8:19 am
Oops, make that homosexual crowd. (A Freudian slip?!)
Normal
December 1st, 2010
8:25 am
Good morning AmVet…What color is that slip?
USinUK
December 1st, 2010
8:28 am
dammit, Normal, now I’m picturing AmVet to look something like this …
http://drx.typepad.com/psychotherapyblog/images/2007/06/03/elizabeth_taylor_cat_on_a_hot_tin_r.jpg
tscali
December 1st, 2010
8:29 am
planned job cuts at eight-month high. two million lose jobless benefits as holidays loom. will the feds claim the two million among the employed now? smoke & mirrors.
Normal
December 1st, 2010
8:30 am
USinUK,
If AmVet looks like that, then I’m defifitely gay!!!
Be Still my beating heart!
Doggone/GA
December 1st, 2010
8:32 am
“They hijacked that lovely word. We need a referendum to get it back, dammit!”
When “gay” started becoming used for homosexual, I heard a speech by a LGBT activist that said we could now have the word “queer” back!
Normal
December 1st, 2010
8:32 am
tscali
December 1st, 2010
8:29 am
I haven’t seen if job gains are purely holiday seasonal or not, have you seen anything?
AmVet
December 1st, 2010
8:33 am
Great, let’s all dogpile on AmVet this morning!
ex-pat, I would have loved to have gotten into that slip! (Too bad she had to eat 7,000 lbs. of mashed potatoes and turned into a human blimp…)
A cold, windy one here in Doraville this morning…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-IZTZkTY8
USinUK
December 1st, 2010
8:33 am
tscali – I don’t know if you’ve noticed this, but we’re at the end of the year – when companies traditionally make cuts … while the announcement was up on the month, it was down on the year
Southern Comfort
December 1st, 2010
8:33 am
Definition of GAY. 1. a: happily excited : merry b: keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits.
Yep, I’m gay…
Next, you’ll say you lived in the Gay 90’s…
Normal
December 1st, 2010
8:34 am
Says here that “gay” was used in an immoral context as far back as the 1600…who knew?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
Mick
December 1st, 2010
8:35 am
amvet
Nature knows no bounds, all you can do is collect on that insurance policy and rebuild.
USinUK
December 1st, 2010
8:35 am
amvet – “A cold, windy one here in Doraville this morning…”
cry me a flippin river
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11883714
(knee-high at my house)