Motorhead takes King of the Dittoheads to school
As you may have heard, Motor Trend magazine has named the Chevy Volt its “Car of the Year:”
“some of the most advanced engineering ever seen in a mainstream American automobile … Attention to detail is impressive … The front end graphic is outstanding — strong, confident, and tastefully upscale … Just counting the gas, the Volt returned 126.7 mpg. Converting the gas used to energy used (79.5 kW-hr) and adding that figure to the electrical energy used gave us a notional 72.9 mpg. … Moonshot. Game-changer. A car of the future that you can drive today, and every day.”
But Rush Limbaugh wasn’t impressed with the latest offering from the much-despised “Government Motors”:
“Folks, of all the cars, no offense, General Motors, please, but of all the cars in the world, the Chevrolet Volt is the Car of the Year? Motor Trend magazine, that’s the end of them. How in the world do they have any credibility? Not one has been sold. The Volt is the Car of the Year.”
Todd Lassa of Motor Trend then responded to Rush’s attack on his magazine’s credibility with a rebuttal that is, shall we say, a little pointed.
“Our credibility, Mr. Limbaugh, comes from actually driving and testing the car, and understanding its advanced technology. It comes from driving and testing virtually every new car sold, and from doing this once a year with all the all-new or significantly improved models all at the same time. We test, make judgments and write about things we understand….
“If you can stop shilling for your favorite political party long enough to go for a drive, you might really enjoy the Chevy Volt. I’m sure GM would be happy to lend you one for the weekend. Just remember: driving and Oxycontin don’t mix.”
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Pennsylvanian
November 24th, 2010
2:25 pm
“I love progress in technology and and conservation!”
I’ll agree the Volt is progress in terms of technology. It is questionable whether it represents progress in conservation. We really won’t know until the carbon payback analysis is published. If it turns out the Volt has negative net carbon payback, it will be detrimental to the environment.
Where's My Party?
November 24th, 2010
2:27 pm
“Just remember: driving and Oxycontin don’t mix”
That’s funny right there. The Chevy Volt is an excellent marvel of technology for sure but at a list of just over $40,000………not sure it is Car of the Year material. The Chevy Cruze would be a better choice and with the savings you could by over 4600 gallons of gas at $3 a gallon. The Buick Regal or new Hyundai Sonata Turbo would also make good choices.
My Car of the Year however….The Ferrari 458 Italia.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 24th, 2010
2:28 pm
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You’re all over it. The number one thing they look for in a vehicle is one that is easy to get in and out of. That’s why they don’t like small cars.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
November 24th, 2010
2:28 pm
Hmmm, it’s still a Government Motors product and I WILL NEVER buy another, PERIOD!
BADA BING
November 24th, 2010
2:30 pm
There are not a lot of electric/hybrids on the road. I cannot give you a chart like Jay, but this should help……If you lined up all the alternative energy cars up, they might reach across a small state. If you lined up all the gas powered cars up, they would reach across the US many, many times, at which point a BMW will pull out to pass.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
November 24th, 2010
2:30 pm
Pennsylvanian
– I’d like to shove my carbon footprint up your…..You green people make me SICK! Go hug a tree!
Pennsylvanian
November 24th, 2010
2:30 pm
My Car of the Year however….
2011 Ford Mustang GT. 400+ hp, and decent fuel mileage.
joe
November 24th, 2010
2:31 pm
You can make fun of Limbaugh all you want about the oxycontin but that guy has more knowledge in his left pinky about economics than our President does. Obama has never had a private sector job so what does he know about meeting payroll or better yet putting his money at risk like many of us do.
On the Volt thing, was government money used for that? I would love to have that luxury. BTW, what are these people going to use to charge this car? Oh that’s right we can’t build nuclear or electrical power plants.
MT Historian
November 24th, 2010
2:32 pm
No real surprise in the Volt being MT Car of the Year – MT goes for new-fangled.
Just look at some previous award winners: The list includes the 1960 Chevy Covair (unsafe at any speed), the ‘80 Chevy Citation (front-wheel drive – what an innovation), the Chevy Vega (what, no Ford Pinto?), the Chrysler K-Cars, and the ‘97 Chevy Malibu.
The Corvair’s rear-mounted air-cooled engine – cool. It may have been hard to keep these cars in the showroom, but, alas, harder to keep them on the road – handling problems put them in the ditch.
The Vega was likely named because of its revolutionary 2-year design/market cycle. Of course, if ended up being one of the worst reliable cars made by GM.
The K-Cars – so, Chrysler can manufacture no-frills automobiles that the government will buy by the fleet to ensure that we have 3 major car companies in the US.
The ‘97 Mailibu – still can’t figure that one out (neither could Car & Driver, who said in ‘99 that, in hindsight, the car was not award-worthy).
Personally, I wish the Volt success – but being MTCOTY does not really make it a special car.
Fred
November 24th, 2010
2:33 pm
I dunno Pennsylvanian. I like the new Camaro. I haven’t ridden in one nor do i know it’s specs, but it has that old “muscle car” look that I grew up with. Although I just googled the ‘Stang. It looks nice too.
JohnnyReb
November 24th, 2010
2:34 pm
Adam – how can a car not yet on the market, that won’t be sold in 44 states, requires a taxpayer funded rebate to put it near 40K, and at best is a tree huggers wet dream, be crowned car of the year? Answer – there is someone, somewhere pushing an agenda. Who and where? The same folks who are pushing carbon caps, wind mills, batteries, and other pie-in-the-sky alternative energy sources that without government social engineering have no chance. And, you ask how can one wonder if Motor Trend is becoming a mouthpiece for the Left?
Pennsylvanian
November 24th, 2010
2:34 pm
“Pennsylvanian
– I’d like to shove my carbon footprint up your…..You green people make me SICK! Go hug a tree!”
You apparently have me confused with someone else. I drive a F150 SuperCrew 4×4 and a Cadillac STS. I don’t think that qualifies me as ‘green’. Go back and read for comprehension. You missed something the first time.
williebkind
November 24th, 2010
2:35 pm
I will never buy a GM-union-bailedout product. Going green is not a priority in my life–even if the liberals demand it.
Fred
November 24th, 2010
2:36 pm
joe
November 24th, 2010
2:31 pm
You can make fun of Limbaugh all you want about the oxycontin but that guy has more knowledge in his left pinky about economics than our President does. Obama has never had a private sector job so what does he know about meeting payroll or better yet putting his money at risk like many of us do.
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Really? Please enlighten me with the businesses Mr. Pill Popping reclassified to 4F college drop out Rush Limbaugh has started or even run? He’s an EMPLOYEE not an EMPLOYER.
Cadawg
November 24th, 2010
2:36 pm
LOL Motor Trend, how silly, the same magazine that named the biodegradeable Chevrolet Vega the car of the year! lol If you believe Motor Trend, your IQ is probably less than room temperature.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
November 24th, 2010
2:39 pm
Pennsylvanian
My apology but this sounds pretty green to me….If it turns out the Volt has negative net carbon payback, it will be detrimental to the environment
emo
November 24th, 2010
2:39 pm
“Gee did you read the whole thread looking for someone to state they spoke English as well?”
Brilliant comment. I read the whole thread and all the reponses that mentioned it called it an electric car and asked what to do when the battery ran out. They are obviously not as smart as you, but then, who is?
BADA BING
November 24th, 2010
2:40 pm
Ah yes, the MTCOTY Chevy Vega, a car whose resale value fluctuated from day to day depending on how full the gas tank was.
Fred
November 24th, 2010
2:40 pm
emo
November 24th, 2010
2:39 pm
They are obviously not as smart as you, but then, who is?
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A very select few. Thank you for noticing.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 24th, 2010
2:41 pm
The Vega was a head gasket saleman’s dream.
williebkind
November 24th, 2010
2:42 pm
I am very concerned about any data coming from the left. It always seems to be tainted one way or another. The problem with Rush from the left is that he does not have a PHD from some liberal university and is making more than 60 million a year. The liberals kept him from being part owner of a NFL team with conservative hate filled standards they can not live upto. Hey but they are a dying political threat and that is the good news.
techengineer
November 24th, 2010
2:43 pm
Is Obama a “natural born” citizen? I think not. What say you?
I hope I heard wrong
November 24th, 2010
2:43 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe@2:28 pm
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You’re all over it. The number one thing they look for in a vehicle is one that is easy to get in and out of. That’s why they don’t like small cars.
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Nope,If I was looking for a hybrid, I would want one that plugged itself in LOL.
How many forget to plug their cellphone in until it dies?
JohnnyReb
November 24th, 2010
2:43 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe, I’m not sure most who post here even come close to knownig what a head gasket is. They may think it’s something to do with sex!
Pennsylvanian
November 24th, 2010
2:44 pm
mmm mmm mmm – If the carbon payback is negative, or the payback period is longer than life of the car, the whole concept is a scam. Got it now?
joe
November 24th, 2010
2:44 pm
Limbaugh is his own corporation and if you don’t realize that don’t respond to my post.
You tools can keep talking pill popping references but do you even realize that his had made it to the top of his profession & he is deaf. I thought you liberals were the sensitive lot.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 24th, 2010
2:45 pm
Johnny Reb
Well, it’s the gasket which serves as a seal between the engine block and the cylinder head, for a quick simple explanation.
emo
November 24th, 2010
2:45 pm
Just look at some previous award winners: The list includes the 1960 Chevy Covair (unsafe at any speed), the ‘80 Chevy Citation (front-wheel drive – what an innovation), the Chevy Vega (what, no Ford Pinto?), the Chrysler K-Cars, and the ‘97 Chevy Malibu.
Link, please
BRW
November 24th, 2010
2:46 pm
“to the top of his profession & he is deaf”
Not deaf, he just never listens, except to his replays…
MT Historian
November 24th, 2010
2:47 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Trend_Car_of_the_Year
Ah, Wikipedia – the source of all knowledge.
I hope I heard wrong
November 24th, 2010
2:49 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe@2:41 pm
The Vega was a head gasket saleman’s dream.
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More like an engine rebuilders dream, too dam much aluminum for me. After I rebuilt the first one LOL.
Fred
November 24th, 2010
2:51 pm
williebkind: I dislike Rush because he is a lout, a druggie AND a hypocrite. His politics have nothing to do with it. I was an avid Boortz listener for probably 20 years or so until he sold out to the Republicans and started toting the mail for them. He’s lost his creativity and isn’t allowed to express his thinking any more. As to Rush? The first time I listened to him was right after the Republicans took control of Congress for the first time in 50 years. They were holding up some of Clinton’s appointments. Not because there was any reason for them to do so, but just because they COULD. How do I know this? It was the topic on Rush’s show that day and he was laughing gleefully about it. I was disgusted and never really paid him much mind after that.
I don’t watch Fox news either. Why you might ask because it’s not left wing? No I would have to reply, because they aren’t trustworthy or credible (never watch 60 minutes for the same reason). You see at the beginning of their existence, FOX news rushed to “report” something that just was true. I couldn’t trust them to give me the truth. They may have changed, I don’t know. they screwed me in the front end so I don’t trust them now.
Pennsylvanian
November 24th, 2010
2:52 pm
MT Historian – The evil handling of the Corvair was corrected in 1963 model with new half shafts articulated at both ends. ‘63 and later models actually handled better than average. But ‘Unsafe At Any Speed’ was already out, and the Corvair was doomed.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 24th, 2010
2:52 pm
Well, I can’t hardly wait till my buddy Jim Earl gets ahold of this idea and goes to work on one of the golf carts up at Countryland Golf Club. You won’t see real Progress on electric cars till he’s finished. He’ll soup it up to go 80 mpg and travel 400 miles before a refill. We don’t have a real electric car now because nobody’s invited Rednecks to join the team. The nice part will be we can drive it to the course and right onto the cart paths.
And I agree with the guy that says some of these warning labels just keep dumb people alive. Why do we need to have “Do Not Drink” on all the anti-freeze containers? Seems to me we’d be alot better off if the dumb people just drunk the stuff to their heart’s content. In a few years there’d be nothing but smart people on this earth.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving everybody.
MT Historian
November 24th, 2010
2:53 pm
Pennsylvanian – you are correct sir. But, it was the 1960 Corvair that was named MTCOTY.
Adam
November 24th, 2010
2:56 pm
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama – BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE! – Hmmm, it’s still a Government Motors product and I WILL NEVER buy another, PERIOD!
Yeah, talk to me in 10 years. When you’ve either become senile or you’ve realized that car companies are not ACTUALLY run by the government.
joe – You can make fun of Limbaugh all you want about the oxycontin but that guy has more knowledge in his left pinky about economics than our President does
That’s BS. First of all, private sector job doesn’t mean you know crap about payroll anyway. Private sector business owner or manager maybe. And he has plenty of people in his cabinet who do have that knowledge. At least you didn’t stoop to the falsehood of saying his cabinet doesn’t know anything either. Plus, running a business at all doesn’t mean you’re actually good at it, or that you work the numbers yourself at all. All Rush has to do is sit in a chair and speak. The rest of the work is done FOR him. He doesn’t know economics any more than a McDonald’s worker who just takes orders does.
JohnnyReb: how can a car not yet on the market, that won’t be sold in 44 states, requires a taxpayer funded rebate to put it near 40K, and at best is a tree huggers wet dream, be crowned car of the year?
Answer – they do this all the time, every year, before the cars are released. They have since before the fantasy world of conservatives believes that the government took over the ENTIRE car industry. If you need further answers to your questions you need only read the response quoted in the main blog post here.
Pennski
November 24th, 2010
2:57 pm
Awesome journalism, copy and paste…
Rush is right, the car doesn’t compare to the Nissan leaf at any demonstrable point. Did Motor Trend get a government bailout too?
Fred
November 24th, 2010
2:57 pm
joe
November 24th, 2010
2:44 pm
Limbaugh is his own corporation and if you don’t realize that don’t respond to my post.
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So? Who does he EMPLOY? He is syndicated or EMPLOYED on a sub contract basis by Premiere Radio Networks. I know this is all a bit much for you too understand so I’m typing as slowly as I can so you can keep up.
Incorporation is done for tax reasons. Many “sole proprietorship’s” are “corporations.” It is quite clear from your comments that you really have zero understanding of the subject you are addressing. I would suggest you educate yourself a little.
For now? Go back to the kids table, finish drinking your milk out of your sippy cup and let the adults talk.
Patty
November 24th, 2010
2:58 pm
Good for you, Todd Lassa of Motor Trend! Way to put old Lips Limp-bough in his place (yes, Limp-bough). However, it is so typical of old Lips to spew facts from his empty head; most of the time he has NO CLUE. Great idea to suggest he actually drive the car, minus his meds! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Corey
November 24th, 2010
2:58 pm
“Or Hope & Change opining about the Constitution.”
Dave R, do you think before you post? A constitutional scholar, Harvard Law graduate, president of the Harvard Law Review and constitutional law professor at a major university and you post such mindless ignorance. You may wipe the egg off your face now.
AngryRedMarsWoman
November 24th, 2010
2:59 pm
Can you really trust Motor Trend when it took them until 1968 to name the GTO COTY? mmmmmmmm…..1964 GTO convertible….sigh…my heart is aflutter now
Fred
November 24th, 2010
3:00 pm
AngryRedMarsWoman
November 24th, 2010
2:59 pm
1964 GTO convertible….sigh…my heart is aflutter now
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That’s just your pace maker acting up because you are standing too near the microwave.
BADA BING
November 24th, 2010
3:01 pm
Talk about re-educating the driving public. One day we may pull into a full service gas and alternate fuel center. Gas, electric plug ins, Hydrogen, natural gas, etc. all available in one place. Can you imagine pulling into a place and watching an inexperienced teen driver filling up a vehicle using a hose under several hundred pounds of pressure filled with flammable, explosive natural gas? Coming up next, at eleven!
MT Historian
November 24th, 2010
3:02 pm
Y’all realize that Mr. Lassa did exactly what Mr. Limbaugh wanted. RL is an entertainer that thrives on controversy. Mr. Lassa kept this controversy alive. If MT had ignored the comments, then RL would have moved onto the next thing – likely Jennifer Grey’s shocking upset of Bristol Palin in DWTS thanks to a liberal voting block.
AngryRedMarsWoman
November 24th, 2010
3:05 pm
@Fred – does my pacemaker mean I will be strip-searched when I fly out of Hartsfield on Friday? oohhhh la la…pack a lunch
ricardus
November 24th, 2010
3:06 pm
Todd Lassa of Motor Trend just removed any credibility his magazine ever had when he exposed his hostility toward the Republican Party and his LDS (Limbaugh Derangement Syndrome). The Volt is a product of the Government Motors that took stolen funds in the billions from the American taxpayers. Will not buy or own a GM car. Ford is the only reliable AMERICAN car and I will replace my present GM car with a Ford next week.
And thanks Rush for being a great American! I’m a Rpublican (the AMERICAN party) and Motor Trend has offended me this American.
BRW
November 24th, 2010
3:07 pm
” likely Jennifer Grey’s shocking upset of Bristol Palin in DWTS thanks to a liberal voting block”
The most shocking thing is that Sarah didn’t demand a recount to refudiate the results or complains that the Russians that reside just off her back porch didn’t get to vote……
josef nix
November 24th, 2010
3:07 pm
I’m not making fun of Limbaugh. G-d made the fun. I’m just laughing.
Fred
November 24th, 2010
3:08 pm
@ AngryRedMarsWoman: LOL one can always dream…………..
Also, your about about what older Americans want in a car stopped THAT person cold didn’t it? I laughed but was too late reading it to respond………
Fred
November 24th, 2010
3:10 pm
I’m with you on that one Josef. I laugh at limbaugh, not with him.
When ever I wonder HOW Deal could get elected as Governor, I only have to remember how many people think Rush is the guardian of the truth……….
BRW
November 24th, 2010
3:11 pm
“Ford is the only reliable AMERICAN car…”
Dumb A$$. Check how many parts of a Ford, or any other manf. for that matter, are actually MADE in the USA this day and time. Bite that nose off, your face doesn’t really care…..
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 24th, 2010
3:13 pm
The list from Motor Trend themselves.
http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/car/car_of_the_year_winners/index.html
iTiSi
November 24th, 2010
3:13 pm
How many middle class people can afford a $35,000 car period? That is who really needs this vehicle. When it first surfaced they said it would be about $25,000. Guess the other $10,000 goes to pay for the union employees healthcare and retirement. So they want the taxpayers to help pay for their benefits in order to drive an unproven electric car? I will gladly wait until the bugs are worked out and the price comes down, if then. You folks can be the “guinea pigs”. Not a fan of Limbaugh’s, so no dog in the fight. Would bet Motor Trend got some big bucks through the back door.
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Hillbilly Deluxe
November 24th, 2010
3:14 pm
Fred @ 3:08
I answered the question at 2:28.
BADA BING
November 24th, 2010
3:14 pm
I foresee fueling centers that have a waiting area for drivers who have to recharge their electric cars. TV, internet access, games for the kids while you wait for recharging. Also, restaurants and stores will have charging areas available while you eat and shop, with a small fee for electricity used. They could put the recharging area right next to the Handicapped Parking, because that is what they will be, handicapped by the cost, the limited range, and the inconvienence of electric cars.
ricardus
November 24th, 2010
3:15 pm
Cory: Get your face wipes out. There is no evidence that Hussein Obama is a graduate of Harvard Law School, no evidence that he was president or editor of the Harvard Law Review, and he was never a “constitutional law professor at a major university” not even a minor university. Hussein never studied Constitutional Law and he doesn’t even believe in the US Constitution as his reign in Washington attests.
Hussein is a fraud, phoney, charlatan and is not even an American citizen.
So Corey, go wash your face and go find some truth before you speak.
AngryRedMarsWoman
November 24th, 2010
3:17 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe ” I answered the question at 2:28.”
I still like my answer better…..sex is what everyone is looking for, isn’t it? I know that the older I get the more I am looking for it. In the car, in the kitchen, on the floor….heck, even when the TSA is searching me on Friday…bring your cameras.
POW
November 24th, 2010
3:18 pm
I just subscribed – 36 issues for $26.00!
http://www.motortrend.com
Fred
November 24th, 2010
3:18 pm
@ Hillbilly Deluxe: You did? LOL I figured you were just shaking your head and left it alone. (I didn’t remember who posed the question, just the answer she gave)
BC
November 24th, 2010
3:19 pm
As much as I agree that Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot, yes I know he lost weight, but he is still a big fat idiot, the guys at Motor Trend have been idiots even longer, fat or skinny!!
It’s a GM product, It’s a piece of JUNK!!!
williebkind
November 24th, 2010
3:21 pm
Now listen how you bloggers are personally attacking Rush. You are making fun of his disability! You can not forgive him for taking legal drugs gotten possibly and controversially illegally but is now clean. But it is ok to be here illegal. Rush’s program is not a news program but a commentary. He announces out loud that he is a republican and only republicans can save the day IF they stick to republican values. Rush’s opinion is just a sound as anybody’s opinion and Rush’s opinion is formed from real fact based research. There liberals is where you are left behind.
emo
November 24th, 2010
3:21 pm
Thanks for that link, MT Historian. There were actually a good number of great cars on that list, too. In any case, the first year of a car won’t tell you how it will wear over the years, just what it promises in the way of technology and innovation. Some don’t deliver.
I had a ‘64 Corvair and it handles satisfactorily. However, in common with may cars of the era, it was a piece of junk. The only saving grace was that when it broke down, I could work on it, and I’m no gearhead. Traded it in in ‘71 for $50.00.
Sid Farcas
November 24th, 2010
3:23 pm
Car of the Year, Pulitzer, what else can this great man accomplish beforew he is booted out in 2012 by Hildabeast? Maybe getting the economy going and cut spending and worry about the little freak in North korea and start taxing China imports and….you know, important stuff.
Just Saying...
November 24th, 2010
3:30 pm
But does the Chevy Volt have the new Seat & a half size?
Hey Ricardus
November 24th, 2010
3:30 pm
Dontcha think the former head of the CIA, and the former POTUS (Clinton) would’ve vetted out PRESIDENT Obama as a candidate?
I mean really, what do you think Panetta and Hillary weren’t digging for every scrap of evidence they could get to beat him in the elections? your conspiracy theories are therefore ridiculous
williebkind
November 24th, 2010
3:31 pm
I hope my gonads fall off if I ever buy a GM product.
Hey Ricardus
November 24th, 2010
3:31 pm
what about Rove and Bush (also former head of the CIA)? these boys can get dirt on anybody on the planet!
Dave
November 24th, 2010
3:32 pm
“Really? Please enlighten me with the businesses Mr. Pill Popping reclassified to 4F college drop out Rush Limbaugh has started or even run? He’s an EMPLOYEE not an EMPLOYER”
Yes, he is syndicated by Premier Radio, but he owns EIB (Excellence in Broadcasting) and hires and pays his own radio staff…. so he’s also an employer.
Hey BC
November 24th, 2010
3:32 pm
I’ve been driving my GMC truck for over 200,000 miles. It’s still running strong my friend. Buy American
Fred
November 24th, 2010
3:34 pm
williebkind
November 24th, 2010
3:31 pm
I hope my gonads fall off if I ever buy a GM product.
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You mean you HAVE some?
Just kidding lol. You left that teed up and I just HAD to drive it down range
capitalism and war
November 24th, 2010
3:38 pm
The problem with electric cars is that the driver is enveloped in a strong electromagnetic field. No, that’s not gonna cause a rise in the rate of cancer. There’s no evidence that electromagnetism is dangerous to humans. Why, it’s good for them, or else how could you explain Frankenstein and the way he was brought to life with electricity?
Only a Dolt don’t like the Volt.
Dave
November 24th, 2010
3:39 pm
The gov’t buying cars from itself…. slick…
Obama Bolsters U.S. Hybrid Automobile Sales in Waning Consumer Market
“President Barack Obama’s administration has bought almost a fourth of the Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. hybrid vehicles sold since he took office, accelerating federal purchases as consumer demand wanes.
The U.S. General Services Administration, which runs the government fleet, bought at least 14,584 hybrid vehicles in the past two fiscal years, or about 10 percent of 145,473 vehicles the agency purchased in that period, according to sales data obtained by Bloomberg under a Freedom of Information Act request. In fiscal 2008, hybrids accounted for less than 1 percent of government purchases, the data showed.
[snip]
About 3,100 of the hybrids purchased by GSA were paid for out of $300 million that the agency received from the 2009 economic stimulus package, said Sara Merriam, a spokeswoman for the agency, in an interview. Another 5,600 were bought with proceeds from selling older cars in the government fleet, she said. A majority of fiscal 2009 hybrid sales came after Obama took office in January 2009.
[snip]
The government purchased about 64 percent of GM’s Chevy Malibu hybrid models and 29 percent of all Ford Fusion hybrids manufactured since Obama took office in 2009, the data show. GM stopped making the Malibu hybrid in 2009 after lack of consumer demand. ”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-23/obama-bolsters-u-s-hybrid-auto-sales-in-waning-consumer-market.html
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Fred
November 24th, 2010
3:43 pm
Dave
November 24th, 2010
3:32 pm
Yes, he is syndicated by Premier Radio, but he owns EIB (Excellence in Broadcasting)
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Dave Dave Dave, you poor little mis guided fool. I see why he is your hero. you can’t think for yourself or do any research. Limbaugh frequently mentions the EIB (Excellence In Broadcasting) network, but this is a mythic construction, as he told the New York Times in 1990. I mean come on now, that’s 20 YEARS ago……… It’s just something he calls his show you knuckle head.
Straight Talk
November 24th, 2010
3:52 pm
Once again, Rush gets the last laugh. As many of the comments above show, he is a past master at enticing liberals to foam at the mouth. I heard his comments on the radio. His main point was that the Obama administration in buying a lion’s share of the Volt’s thus insuring the success of this alleged advance in automobiles from Government Motors. Where I come from this is called robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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November 24th, 2010
3:53 pm
Hillbilly:
The number one thing they look for in a vehicle is one that is easy to get in and out of. That’s why they don’t like small cars.
My car is small, but the seats go wa-a-a-y back and the head room is exceptional . It’s a Subaru Outback, so the trunk is REALLY big.
My husband is about 2 inches taller than me, but his legs aren’t as long. When he had his ‘58 Corvette, I literally had to fall out of the thing. I can sympathize with the older crowd.
I’m a bit claustrophobic so I refuse to ride in the backseat of anyone’s car. The only time I had no other option, it was summertime…there were three people in the backseat…got stuck in a traffic jam for two hours. I began shedding clothes because I couldn’t breathe.
Never again!
When Hell Freezes Over
November 24th, 2010
3:58 pm
joe
November 24th, 2010
2:44 pm
Limbaugh is his own corporation and if you don’t realize that don’t respond to my post.
You tools can keep talking pill popping references but do you even realize that his had made it to the top of his profession & he is deaf. I thought you liberals were the sensitive lot.
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Liberals are only sensitive about themselves, other liberals and leftist issues.
Fred
November 24th, 2010
4:02 pm
But I’m not a liberal Hellboy. I despise fanatical mindless left wingers as much as I despise radical right wingers. I’m someone who actually HAS a brain and doesn’t need a Rush Limbaugh or a Michael Moore to tell me what I think.
Nice try tool. Keep rolling off the catch phrases you learned form your “betters.” What sad is that your “betters are dumber than dog squeeze, so what does that make you?
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 24th, 2010
4:03 pm
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I had a Ranger that was extremely comfortable, once you were in it. It was hell to get in and out of, with my legs and feet and all. When the motor finally blew up, at 240,000+ miles, I moved up to an F150, extended cab. Greatest thing since sliced bread.
Eric
November 24th, 2010
4:06 pm
So Dave R could go on…..I truly wish he would.
Travis McGee
November 24th, 2010
4:08 pm
Mr. Limbaugh is PO’ed because a Bentley wasn’t the Car of the Year. From my limited experience with Mr. Limbaugh, he’s very negative about science and scientific advances and observations. He sort of reminds me of the mindset of the Catholic church in the 15th and 16th centuries. The Church felt it had all the answers — absolute power over the masses — and rejected scietific discoveries that made them look really stupid in the end.
But, in the end it’s hard to take Limbaugh seriously, he’s such a joke!
Eric
November 24th, 2010
4:11 pm
ricardas appears to be a complete idiot…there’s plenty of evidence to prove it right here on this page.
TGT
November 24th, 2010
4:11 pm
“The Chevy Volt is a disaster. It is extremely expensive…The only people who are going to buy it are going to be very rich people who are going to park it outside their townhouse for ostentatious show of how virtuous they are while they drive around in their Cadillac Escalade.”
“This is a classic example of what happens when the political and ideological desires of an administration are imposed on a private company…It’s not how many jobs you create or even save, it’s can you sell a product in the market that will make a profit? Otherwise, it’s a farce.”
TGT
November 24th, 2010
4:14 pm
Advertised as an all-electric car that could drive 50 miles on its lithium battery, GM addressed concerns about where you plug the thing in en route to grandma’s house by adding a small gasoline engine to help maintain the charge on the battery as it starts to run down. It was still an electric car, we were told, and not a hybrid on steroids.
That’s not quite true. The gasoline engine has been found to be more than a range-extender for the battery. Volt engineers are now admitting that when the vehicle’s lithium-ion battery pack runs down and at speeds near or above 70 mph, the Volt’s gasoline engine will directly drive the front wheels along with the electric motors. That’s not charging the battery — that’s driving the car.
So it’s not an all-electric car, but rather a pricey $41,000 hybrid that requires a taxpayer-funded $7,500 subsidy to get car shoppers to look at it. But gee, even despite the false advertising about the powertrain, isn’t a car that gets 230 miles per gallon of gas worth it?
We heard GM’s then-CEO Fritz Henderson claim the Volt would get 230 miles per gallon in city conditions. Popular Mechanics found the Volt to get about 37.5 mpg in city driving, and Motor Trend reports: “Without any plugging in, (a weeklong trip to Grandma’s house) should return fuel economy in the high 30s to low 40s.”
Car and Driver reported that “getting on the nearest highway and commuting with the 80-mph flow of traffic — basically the worst-case scenario — yielded 26 miles; a fairly spirited backroad loop netted 31; and a carefully modulated cruise below 60 mph pushed the figure into the upper 30s.”
AtlMike
November 24th, 2010
4:19 pm
I thought Limbaugh promised to move to another country if Obama won. Limbaugh has no credibility when it comes to grading cars and their performance. Maybe he should stick to drugs.
Fred
November 24th, 2010
4:22 pm
I thought several lefties promised to move on if Bush got re-elected. I didn’t see that they moved either. Same idiot mentality, only the party has changed……..
Logical Dude
November 24th, 2010
4:31 pm
1) Limbaugh slamming the car before he has driven it = stupid
2) response from Motor Trend = very wiity
3) Motor Trend voting a car that hardly anyone can buy based on availability = we don’t understand their criteria very well
4) People on this Blog slamming the car because it’s too “Liberal” = about as clueless as I’ve seen anyone be. (which I guess would include Rush)
5) People on this blog saying the Volt is the next best thing to sliced bread = not nearly as clueless, but you need to drive it to make this determination
6) The Volt doesn’t sell well because it’s too expensive compared to the Leaf or Prius = reality that wil soon come to pass.
For me, I’ll be in line for a 2012 hybrid of some sort unless there is an electric that has a range greater than 200 miles. (I’m looking at you TESLA MOTORS) Gas prices will continue to rise if we do not take major steps as a country to reduce our demand. Having an electric car that uses much more cheaply supplied plug-in power (and likely mostly free solar power), is what the future holds. There will be several steps until we get there. Just the same way there were several steps to move from horse & buggy to motorcar.
Prepare for it people, it’s coming!
. . . and it’s the 21st century, where the bleep are the flying cars????
YourConscience~
November 24th, 2010
4:32 pm
THE PRESIDENT IS BLACK : GET OVER IT !
Lugnut
November 24th, 2010
4:37 pm
First person to mention Oxycontin in this debate loses. No-really. The shills are all on the side of the electric crap. Just let a Volt or a Leaf shut down in the second from the right lane on 285 and receive an overdose of 18-wheeler tracks, and the federal subsidy to get people to buy these environmental nightmares will have to be 100%. As for Motor Trend, who gives a rat’s rear what they name as car of the year. I am sure it too is populated by candy-arses that keep a rag soaked in kerosene in their back pocket to keep the flies off their lilly white arses. Meanwhile, just what damage is done to ye old mother earth to manufacture all those batteries?
Fred
November 24th, 2010
4:38 pm
Logical Dude
November 24th, 2010
4:31 pm
“Gas prices will continue to rise if we do not take major steps as a country to reduce our demand.”
Our demand is barely a factor in the equation. The “problem’ is that China has finally joined the modern World and industrialized. They are taking all the oil that we used to get.
“. . . and it’s the 21st century, where the bleep are the flying cars????”
I think we need to ask Tom Swift.
Ramguy
November 24th, 2010
4:40 pm
What the dittoheads never fail to realize is that it’s not we don’t have compassion towards someone who finds themselves addicted to drugs, it’s that we have no patience or understanding for Limpaugh’s hypocisy. According to his own words he should be in prison. After all he stated that’s were people who use drugs should be. You can say all the “but but but but it was legal drugs he was addicted to” all you want. What you are saying he’s your drug addict so it must be ok.
Taxpayer30189
November 24th, 2010
4:42 pm
From GM’s website:
Range 25 to 50 miles, then you have to fire up a gas powered generator to go farther.
Charge time, 10 Hours. TEN HOURS.
After the initial 40 miles of battery power, the car gets 35 to 40 MPG. Like a Honda.
How much does the Volt cost? $48500.00.
GM has chosen LG Chem of Korea to supply the lithium-ion cells. Why?
I think I’ll just buy a Honda and use the left over money to buy 400,000 miles of GAS!
It looks to me like Rush is right again.
Adam
November 24th, 2010
4:48 pm
Todd Lassa of Motor Trend just removed any credibility his magazine ever had when he exposed his hostility toward the Republican Party and his LDS (Limbaugh Derangement Syndrome).
This is exactly the kind of BS that needs to stop. Someone loses credibility because they think unfavorably of the Republican Party or one of its operatives? So I have to follow all GOP things unquestioningly in order to be credible. No, STFU. Go crawl back into your made up land where everyone has the same exact thoughts, emotions, etc as everyone else. Go back to your “utopia” known as Fox News.
ricardus: There is no evidence that Hussein Obama is a graduate of Harvard Law School, no evidence that he was president or editor of the Harvard Law Review, and he was never a “constitutional law professor at a major university” not even a minor university
Uh, there’s plenty of evidence. Obviously by “evidence” you mean “things Fox News/Rush/Beck says,” since the world of FACTS disagrees with you there.
Hey BC – I’ve been driving my GMC truck for over 200,000 miles. It’s still running strong my friend. Buy American
Thank you for being a new sane voice in the crowd. Goodness knows we need more.
Logical Dude
November 24th, 2010
4:58 pm
Fred says: “The “problem’ is that China has finally joined the modern World and industrialized.”
Plus add India to that, and there’s another billion people wanting to drive. (but they get the TaTa)
Taxpayer30189 says: “How much does the Volt cost? $48500.00.”
See my #6 above. Like I said, the Volt (~50K) is a good step, the same way the Tesla Roadster ~$110K) is a good step. But for mass-market, we’ll need the Leaf (~30K), the Prius(~25K), and the 2012 Tesla S-Type (their upcoming mid-size car ~ 60K) (and 2015-2018 Tesla small car -hopefully <40K).
Martin Williams
November 24th, 2010
5:00 pm
What a big big shame when people that say they love America and even wear a rist band American flag like Sarah Palin still DON’T trust American products. We love America but we want the president policies to fail. When the president fails we all fail. George W. Bush failed badly and look what is happening to us…..big fools.
Logical Dude
November 24th, 2010
5:01 pm
My 2000 Saturn (when Saturn was “independent” of GM) is now at 200,000 miles. GM killed Saturn when it made Saturn just another GM brand and diluted the quality.
GM also killed the electric car when it had the chance to become the world leader of the future automotive revolution. But electric cars have so little maintenance that they don’t get much residual income that the usual clunkers give them.
capitalism and war
November 24th, 2010
5:08 pm
the problem with electric cars is this: where will we get a secure supply of dilithium crystals? The Klingons are hoarding their supply and the Ferengi shoot prospectors on sight.
Electrical warp drive was a tremendous advance in the horseless carriage. And I applaud the Chinese for inventing it. But answer me this: why is it that a half hour after you charge the battery, you want to charge it again?
FYI
November 24th, 2010
5:13 pm
Aside from you Jay, who gives a @3$% what Limbaugh says? Jeez, this is pathetic. Same old crap, day after, day. Screw Limbaugh, Olberman, Hannity, Beck, Madow, etc. Who cares what any of them think or say? It’s nearly Thanksgiving, and rather than bitch and moan about who said this, or who said that, how about a little thanks for the things that are good in your life.
El Jefe
November 24th, 2010
5:23 pm
Actually, Rush likes his Maybach over the Bently