Corporate profits hit record high; still no hiring
“The nation’s workers may be struggling, but American companies just had their best quarter ever.
American businesses earned profits at an annual rate of $1.66 trillion in the third quarter, according to a Commerce Department report released Tuesday. That is the highest figure recorded since the government began keeping track over 60 years ago, at least in nominal or non-inflation-adjusted terms.
Corporate profits have been going gangbusters for a while. Since their cyclical low in the fourth quarter of 2008, profits have grown for seven consecutive quarters, at some of the fastest rates in history.”
I know what you’re thinking: You want to see a chart.
OK, here.
I still know what you’re thinking: If only President Obama and the Democrats weren’t so darned anti-business. If only corporate America was making enough money to pump back into the economy. If only we could free up business and make it possible to earn a profit again.
If only ….
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Fred
November 23rd, 2010
7:48 pm
Adam
November 23rd, 2010
6:16 pm
++++++++++++
Adam, Bless your heart. You are qa complete and utter brain washed moron. Here’s your sign:’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5ZkdHImCuQ
Mary Elizabeth
November 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm
Fred @ 7:38 p.m.
Daddy King: “No man has so much power over me that he can cause me to hate him.”
Hate destroys the hater more than the one he hates. A spiritual truth of the universe.
Find a way to release hate (the best way is to turn it to love) or your very life could be shortened from within. Best to you.
zeke
November 23rd, 2010
7:51 pm
If only Jay, or any frigging liberal socialist understood anything about real economics! Businesses are not in business to provide health insurance! They are not in business to just hire people for any reason other that the new customers they gain require additional products to be made, that requires they hire additional employees! Government however is in the business of forcefully confiscating taxes from successful working populations in order to redistribute it to non workers!! So, when Obama wises up, drops his socialist rape of the USA, permanently extend the current tax rates or indeed reduce them, businesses will continue to hold profits until further notice!!!
Del
November 23rd, 2010
7:51 pm
TnGelding,
The reason I don’t agree that the GOP doesn’t want a recovery until 2013 is that they’re now on the hot seat right along side the Democrats. If they aren’t perceived by the voters as having clear solutions they’ll be toast as well. I think we may be seeing a new era where voter apathy doesn’t always follow an election. I think we have a better informed and more involved electorate.
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
7:54 pm
Fred
Sois sage, mon ami! Pas tous les français ni tous les batistes sont mauvais!
JD
November 23rd, 2010
7:54 pm
Zeke — If a business holds cash — it gets taxed — If I hire or expand my capital expenditures — those are not taxed…
The argument makes no sense
And I have started 3 companies and managed 3 business units for a company traded on NASDAQ
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
7:56 pm
Mary Elizabeth
November 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm
++++++++++++
Until you love something, you can never hate it. Hate is earned not given.
I’ll take credit for that original quote. Feel free to use it any time you wish lol.
md
November 23rd, 2010
7:56 pm
“I think we have a better informed and more involved electorate.”
I’ll agree with the later……………..but not the former.
Too many know how to get on their computers but have no idea how to use google other than looking at maps.
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
7:59 pm
Mary Elizabeth…
Got those two film suggestions on my list…hope they’re better than “Babette’s Feast!”
Fred
Sorry about your in-laws…mine are a great lot…
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm
MD: I’m too lazy to google right now. Explain to me the ins and out of latter (you typed later but I think that was an inadvertant typo) vs former. For instance: In your statement you think we have a more involved electorate but not a better informed one? If that is a correct assessment then I have it right lol.
Del
November 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
md, when I said better informed I wasn’t saying all, I’m saying better. Information comes at us from multiple directions, discernment isn’t guaranteed for all.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
8:07 pm
jonix: Thanks. I think I had one beer too many and shared TMI. But it’s a stressful and painful time. I envy you your relationship. My inlaws have been total shts for 20 years. I don’t mind how they treat me, but I hate them for the way they treat their daughter (my wife) and their grand daughter. I have not the “moral fiber” if you want to call it that to forgive them for that. I hope I never grow it. Like I said, hate is earned.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
8:11 pm
Question: What’s the difference between In-laws and outlaws?
Answer: Outlaws are wanted………
Del
November 23rd, 2010
8:13 pm
“Outlaws are wanted” LOL, well have to go make the final preparation for my soon to be famous (just kidding) pasta sauce.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
8:16 pm
Dude, My “pasta sauce” (I assume you mean spaghetti sauce) is ALREADY famous. If you are nice one day I will give you some tips……….
LOL
md
November 23rd, 2010
8:18 pm
Well Fred, you are not alone, although I only despise half of the in-law couple. “Mom” is the sweetest thing on earth, while”buttthead” needed to take a dirt nap years ago…………….
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
8:19 pm
Fred
Not to worry…it takes a lot for me to reach the point of hate, but once I do, it’s full tilt boogie from that point on…and I feel no guilt therefor either…
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
8:21 pm
md
“a dirt nap” I like that one…!
why is the trickle down yellow?
November 23rd, 2010
8:23 pm
Fred@8:11 pm
Question: What’s the difference between In-laws and outlaws?
Answer: Outlaws are wanted………
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Now if we could just make in-laws wanted ……. at least by the police
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
8:27 pm
Well while I’m slightly (enormously, the girls are out lol) inebriated jonix, I thought I’d share a song that I think you would like. Someone turned me on to it, and her, the artist, Amanda Marshall, a few months ago. (She isn’t new but I hadn’t heard her.) If you haven’t heard it before perhaps you can surprise Unmentionable with it…..
I dunno, it just seems appropriate to me right now………..
Later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIXBJM6lDQ0
AmVet
November 23rd, 2010
8:27 pm
My oh my oh my!
Welcome to the dysfunctional family hour! Brought to you by almost every American family there is!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzGhc9XRv9Q
why is the trickle down yellow?
November 23rd, 2010
8:31 pm
Fred@8:27 pm
Well while I’m slightly (enormously, the girls are out lol) inebriated jonix
————————————————————
Step away from the keyboard. Keep your hands in sight. Spell inebriated. Damn he got it right, he’s not sloshed enough to take in. LOL. Night all
Charles
November 23rd, 2010
8:31 pm
It’s ObamaCare stupid!
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
8:31 pm
If you like it tell me on another one of Jay’s blogs Jonix. I won’t be back on this one.
md
November 23rd, 2010
8:32 pm
“Welcome to the dysfunctional family hour! Brought to you by almost every American family there is!”
Ain’t that the truth……..I thought my family had problems……….then I met hers. My family no longer has problems, just inconveniences……..compared to hers.
Really bears out the “grass is greener” saying………………
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
8:34 pm
AmVet
November 23rd, 2010
8:27 pm
+++++++++++
I was actually AT the concert at Cobo when Live Bullet was cut Amvet. That is one of my favorite song(s). I’ve probably played that in 30 bands………..
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
8:35 pm
Fred
Thanks! That was a nice tune…
md
November 23rd, 2010
8:36 pm
“UK imposes new permanent immigration quota”
And the grand experiment is collapsing………….
TnGelding
November 23rd, 2010
8:38 pm
We’re a conflicted lot. We don’t know what we want, but we wanted it yesterday! Patience, my friends, patience!
AmVet
November 23rd, 2010
8:45 pm
I’m glad we got to share it, Fred. And ditto on what jonix said about that Amanda Marshall.
As you may know, we just have one heckuva time here on Friday nights and the heretofore sweet stuff shared by Brother Bruno is sorely missed. But we bravely soldier on without him.
And think good thoughts about each other.
Put the hammer down…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBdCpzPgnQA
dcb
November 23rd, 2010
8:46 pm
It would be interesting to know how many of the bloggers here who are critical of corporations and “the rich” are making $50+k or more themselves. I know, I know, $50+k doesn’t go as far as it used to. But I bet cellphones, computers, and television reception of over 50 channels are simply but a way of life for them. So when I hear talk of how bad off the majority of legal American citizens are because of big business, and how bad it is that they don’t contribute more to the entitlements of the middle and lower class income earner, I have to wonder. Maybe real soup lines, a depression, and truly dire times is what a society like ours needs every hundred years to bring them back to reality.
EJ Moosa
November 23rd, 2010
8:47 pm
If only Bookman knew business….
Just as GM announced they would be paying no taxes for a future period of time, so too are many corporations doing the same thing. Last year’s losses carry forward, making it look like “record” profits.
And if Bookman had any business experience, he would know that businesses operate on an annual calendar, so one quarter does not alter the annual business strategy.
The facts are that most businesses have already determined what their budgets are for the 2011 time frame. You need to see improved earnings year over year to get companies to move back towards a growth strategy.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 23rd, 2010
8:49 pm
dcb
Next time I make 50K will be the first time.
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
8:53 pm
dcb
There’s a lot to what you say there…
RB from Gwinnett
November 23rd, 2010
8:53 pm
Hey Jay, just curious. How are things at the AJC? Are the profits up there and are you hiring? Surely your glass house doesn’t have any hairline cracks in it does it?
If you aren’t hiring, why? Do you dare call out YOUR masters for the same reasons you call out the others? Is there a mirror there at the AJC?
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
8:56 pm
Hillbilly
Just remember, there’s a first time for everything!
@@
November 23rd, 2010
8:57 pm
‘Tis a Mexican standoff.
Last I heard, Obama was schmoozing the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Then it’s off to a retreat with corporate CEOs.
Try to support an economy without big business.
Obama’s gonna cave.
Ding dong, the left is dead!!!
Mary Elizabeth
November 23rd, 2010
9:00 pm
Fred @ 7:56
“Hate is earned, not given.”
That is where forgiveness purifies the hate and allows the heart to open to love, once more. Forgiveness is probably the hardest spiritual truth to accomplish because we must lay down our pride and know that we all are human, and we all have sinned (i.e. damaged oursellves or others), in differing ways and to differing degrees. The larger the heart can open to forgive, the more one heals from the destructive force of hate.
Forgiveness is essential.
Jay
November 23rd, 2010
9:01 pm
RB, your concern is touching.
Yes, we are hiring. Yes, we are making a profit. So no worries, we will still be here for you.
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
9:03 pm
@@
“Ding dong the left is dead”
Careful there! That’s what the left was saying about the GOP just a few short weeks ago…just like that ‘dead horse,’ this one’s still got some kick in it! ISH
Del
November 23rd, 2010
9:03 pm
“maybe real soup lines, a depression and truly dire times”
dcb, I sure hope not but who can know besides the man upstairs.
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
9:05 pm
JAY
Since you’re here…thanks for the thread this a.m.
AmVet
November 23rd, 2010
9:06 pm
As long as we’re coming clean here tonight, I’ve made 50K exactly ………………………………….once.
Hey Hillbilly, that’s just another of the many things we have in common. Not defined by our income alone.
I remember channel stumbling onto Austin City Limits one Saturday night some years ago and was instantly captivated by this performance. A few weeks later, I was with a buddy and he had some of her CDs on his boat, and after that I was hooked on Lucinda…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5cL9tc2WL4
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
9:07 pm
Mary Elizabeth
I understand what you are saying about forgiveness, but I can’t buy that in its entirety…there are some things that simply cannot be forgiven in my book in earthly terms…I try to leave that in the hands of G-d, but I’m not always that charitable…
Jay
November 23rd, 2010
9:08 pm
you posted a great counterpoint, Josef.
One would almost think that a load had been lifted….
almost, of course.
Mary Elizabeth
November 23rd, 2010
9:09 pm
Josef -
I didn’t see “Babette’s Feast.” I can almost guarantee you that you will love “Big Night.”
I am not so sure if you will like “I am Love” with Tilda Swinton. It is an exquisitel, Italian movie but it plays out almost like an opera. May be a little dark, though piercingly romantic, for your tastes.
Check it out on “google’ or Netflix before you get that one.
I’m going to watch “Dancing with the Stars” to see who wins. Jennifer Grey, of the “Dirty Dancing” movie with Patrick Swazey, is an outstanding dancer. Perfect scores in last four dances. Her father, Joel Grey, played the master of ceremonies in “Cabaret” with Liza Minnelli, and the same role on Broadway, I think. His daughter is amazing.
Del
November 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm
AmVet, you certainly know your music.
Mary Elizabeth
November 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm
I would like to wish Jay and his family, and all the bloggers a very happy Thanksgiving Day before I retire this evening. I hope it is one of your best!
AmVet
November 23rd, 2010
9:16 pm
Enter your comments here
AmVet
November 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm
Thanks, Del.
You ain’t bad either!
Del
November 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm
Best message I heard on forgiveness was to not do so, keeps you captive in that memory of whatever wrong that was done to you. Forgiveness, doesn’t mean that to do so, means you have to put yourself into the same condition that brought you hurt. Forgiveness benefits the forgiver and that’s why it’s one of God’s gifts.
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm
JAY
Almost. There’s a mess left to clean up and goodwill is in short supply. I wish I could be optimistic about what is coming in, but in this arena, optimism is also in short supply. Meanwhile, though, the kids are wonderful and that’s what those of us still in the classroom are there for anyway. Thanks for the compliment…
DawgDad
November 23rd, 2010
9:26 pm
md has it right, small business is in a pinch and that is pinching job creation.
The big corporations generally don’t want to balloon their staffs with educated Americans, they want cheap labor and productivity gains within the existing staffing levels. During the tech boom years a lot of educated Americans found jobs in the Tech sector; the vast, vast majority in small businesses and start-ups. Big corporations generally don’t innovate, they ingest the innovators or drive them out of business, and they aren’t going to create the mass numbers of good jobs this nation needs. Globalization has structurally changed the labor and financial markets and made it much more difficult to drive private job creation via Fed policy, because much of the money flows out of the country or gets devalued. We need to stimulate innovation and growth from the private sector grass roots upward, attract investment back into this country, and stem the bleeding trade deficits without bankrupting the Treasury or starting WWIII. Tall order for self-serving politicians who seem bent on personally profiting from bankrupting the Treasury, nation building in China and the third world, and funding never-ending wars.
Del
November 23rd, 2010
9:27 pm
Mary Elizabeth, Happy Thanks Giving to you as well.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
9:33 pm
I’m such a liar. I haven’t left this one yet.
why is the trickle down yellow? : Back when I wrote, my editor got kind of urinated when I quit drinking. He said I wrote best when I was drunk.
jonix and amvet: Thanks. I thought it was a good tune. Amvet. I usually forget on friday’s but last friday I spent hours listening to the tunes. That’s why I didn’t hesitate to post one
Hillbilly Deluxe: 50 grand or even 150 grand ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. You find the expenses STILL find a way to out strip the income and you are still living paycheck to paycheck.
dcb: I’m an odd duck. Boortz says that anyone under 30 who isn’t a liberal has no heart and anyone over 30 who isn’t a conservative has no brain. I’m over 30. My family earns far more than 50K. I have a heart AND a brain and while I was “conservative” for nearly 40 years, I find myself more and more “liberal.” I still think of myself as an independent and the truth be told NEITHER party represents my interests (and never will), but the Republican party has not only lost touch with me, but I think with the public in general. They use scare tactics now just as they righteously accused the left of using in the past. I was going somewhere with this but I don’t remember where……..
Mary Elizabeth: Bless your heart. But I have EARNED the right to my hatred towards my in laws and I have come to cherish it. I think I’ll keep it with me. They DESERVE it. I’m not Jesus. He got strung up rather painfully as I remember it and I’m not willing to out like that for those pieces of dung. I’d rather be on the other end of the cross.
I have more to say, but I think I’ll save it for another post. It at least has to deal with the topic………
budman
November 23rd, 2010
9:37 pm
Oh I love this country, and the people that compose it. This is what I fought for in Vietnam. The government and the people. Freedom of speech will probable be the last right that will be placed in jeopardy, I really hope not. The most interesting thing about the American people is their ability to rally for a cause. The people who support the TSA blatant disregard for the 4th amendment is composed of people who never fly. Comments made by bloggers on ones regard, or lack there of, of support of the current administration are usually made by people who never vote and do not have any experience in supporting this country. I have medals from combat, pay my taxes and show up for jury duty. I support your opinion, but if I disagree or make light of the current administration that does not make me BAD. besides it really lite up the responses, isn’t that what we want.
md
November 23rd, 2010
9:40 pm
Watch “Amish Grace” for a lesson on forgiveness…..and get a box of tissue….even the guys.
@@
November 23rd, 2010
9:41 pm
josef:
I wasn’t talking about the Democratic party…..I was talking about the left-wing loons who think they OWN the party. The MoveOns will be moving on.
There’s been speculation that Dennis Kucinich may offer an alternative to an Obama presidency in 2012. He’d never win, but there IS talk.
Dennis is the left’s Ron Paul.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
9:42 pm
Concerning this current “crisis” and what the right wing (God I hate to have to go there) are saying, I just remember a verse from an old Jefferson Airplane song, “White Rabbit.”
When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen’s “off with her head!”
Remember what the dormouse said;
“Keep YOUR HEAD”
While I have always loved the original, here is one that’s even better, Grace Potter and the Nocturnals. ( The bass player isn’t a band regular, but she is as hot as the fires of hell lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vy1OoBAL-E
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
9:42 pm
Fred
Good! You’re still here. You had asked earlier this p.m. for further thoughts on the a.m. thread…there’s the one above. As you can imagine, it was the topic of conversation all around today. The parents were in in droves, it being the day before break and all the little ones putting on their Thanksgiving performances. We staff members got an earful from them and did a lot of venting in the lounge. The general consensus was “don’t let the door hit you where the G-od L-rd split you.” It was not so much anger as it was resignation.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 23rd, 2010
9:43 pm
Fred @ 9:33
I’ve always spent less than I made. That’s how I’ve managed to hold on to my independence, which is far more important to me, than money.
And by the way, Boortz took the “anyone under 30″ quote from Winston Churchill.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
9:47 pm
Budman? I’m missing your fornicating point. The republicans were the ones who “who support the TSA blatant disregard for the 4th amendment.” THEY are the ones who started the TSA. THEY are the ones who pushed for the so called “Patriot Act.”
What the hell are you trying to say?
Oh and suck on a fat babies pacifier with that tired old Viet Nam crap. That crap worked when we hadn’t had an official war for years, but that ship sailed long ago. I probably have more time in combat than you have in a military latrine and I was just too young for Viet Nam. Cry me a river of tears over that one will you……….
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
9:50 pm
Jonix (do you mind me calling you that? It seems to roll more easily off my two typing fingers than josef or josef nix), I read your interaction with Jay here on that education thread with interest. I know you didn’t write it for me but thanks anyway. It’s what i wondered about.
Del
November 23rd, 2010
9:50 pm
Time for Taps, if I miss y’all tomorrow have a very safe and happy Thanks Giving holiday.
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
9:56 pm
Fred
Jo’s fine…so’s SOB, Jacka33 or whatever else moves you at the moment! Liked that cover of “White Rabbit…”
@@
Kucinich is definitely an intriguing one! He’s the thorn in the side of he left, and that’s a good thing…
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
9:56 pm
LOL Del, Taps is actually Dan Butterfields regimental tune from the civil war.
md
November 23rd, 2010
9:59 pm
I like ole Dennis…..he’s a straight shooter.
Don’t agree with a lot of what he offers, but that’s ok.
josef nix
November 23rd, 2010
10:11 pm
Time to call it a night…
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
10:12 pm
Well if you are still here Jonix, check this one out. You can play the whole thing if you want, but if you just want the tune skip to 2:22 where the real take gets made. I’m really leaving now at this………
And the night rolls on………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyA075eiz28
Adam
November 23rd, 2010
10:14 pm
F Sinkwich: Then how about Marxist, European socialist, unionist, and collectivist? Obama is all of those.
All work for me.
None of those are titles of nobility, and not all of them are correct. He’s not Marxist since a key form of Marxism is government control of ALL private property for the benefit of the people. He’s not a European Socialist, since you have to be elected to that position and be a European citizen (see Party of European Socialists). He might be a unionist, but I say so what? Unions are off topic and I won’t discuss them here, except to say that until at-will is abolished, I support unions existing. Finally, he is not a collectivist because he DOES support individual rights.
So maybe you should just stick with unionist. If you think it fits, by all means make every attempt to use that and make it a term of slander. But none of the others apply.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
7:48 pm
Complete and utter brainwashed moron? I think those that have been watching Fox, listening to Beck/Rush, or otherwise have been subjected the propaganda put forth by them originally are the ones truly brainwashed. I put out a good, long, thoughtful piece on how I consider Obama to actually fit the role of a leader, and refute the idea that he HASN’T said all of the things described as a leader would say, and I’m brainwashed?
It’s almost verbatim what he said when he was elected. Most striking is this: A leader who will say I will work with congress and WE will move this great country forward. As though Obama didn’t say that. He did! As though he didn’t say any of those things. He did! You must not have been paying attention, or you buy into the idea that when he says that stuff he must be lying.
Of course, by saying “follow him,” perhaps I should clarify. I am not saying he’s the Messiah or anything, but I am saying he is a leader and he is LEADING. The phrase I used, “follow him,” was not meant as an instruction but as a phrase to indicate people who agree with what he is doing at least some of the time. I’m not saying I agree with everything he does, but when it comes to most policies he has put forth, I agree with them. Yes, still. I actually pay attention to what he does and what he says, like most of the other politicians I pay attention to.
Bye Bye Empire
November 23rd, 2010
10:15 pm
Somebody named Ragnar above uttered the following: “I fear our leftist friends do not understand, so I will try to make it simple. One does not hire bodies just because one has the cash available to do so. One hire workers when the prospects for growth and future profitability are strong, when the “need” is there.”
Meanwhile, I read that “Americans have their best quarter ever.”
Now listen here, my friend:
Don’t you think it would be nice if we found a way to foment anger and rage among the populace at this outrage?
Because, I think that if the American corporations are having their best quarter ever while we have unemployment rates at outrageous levels, then that means we need a slight rejiggering of our perspectives here. Maybe if crowds of people were to start gathering outside said corporations’ facilities reminding them of their presence. What’s that you say? The police would chase them away? Very well then. Perhaps other and more effective means of expressing their ‘disapproval’ would be in order. Point is. We have a so-called Tea Party movement that is based on the rage of the stock floor trader at the slacker overextended mortgage holders. What we need therefore is simple. While granting the aggrieved floor trader his right to be enraged, he need to proceed to doubling his rage and returning it back to him, in such a way that it makes the good floor trader shudder. So you can lecture all you want about ‘how it works’, but all the while people like me are busy working on ways to blow the hat off our proverbial floor trader with our answer to his rage.
budman
November 23rd, 2010
10:26 pm
Fred it may come as a surprise to ya but Vietnam is taught as a history class in many colleges, I should know I have taught it for the last 6 years. The Y generation wants to know. My point is; people who scream the loudest are usually the most guilty. You know kinda the Bishop Eddie Long syndrome. I make light of many situations and people take stuff SO serious when it’s not really applicable. Kinda the rich are getting off by not paying taxes ergo we are paying for them. The present day administration, is a by product of the apathetic American voter, republican,democrat what ever. they have more in-common with each other than any American voter, but people are convinced one or the other will pull us through. No!! they caused the situation, it is up to the voter. While on the subject only 6% of the American people have ever served in the military. Of that 6% only a fraction ever saw combat, but Fred I am sure you and John Wayne are a gift to the American fighting man and women. What was the term? oh yea! a PX hero,sure what ever. .
Mary Elizabeth
November 23rd, 2010
10:30 pm
Del@ 9:27
Thank you, Del, and may you and yours enjoy the day, fully. I’m certainly going to with my family. Best to you.:-)
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
10:33 pm
Adam
November 23rd, 2010
10:14 pm
+++++++++++
my friend. I didn’t mean to get your boxers in a bunch. I probably should have phrased that better but………
You obviously missed the whole point and you are STILL missing the point. I like my current President. I voted for him. I sent money (only 100 bucks lol but it’s the first time in my life I sent money to a campaign). But so far he has not yet LED.
You identify with him so you can’t see what I’m saying. He needs to take the reins (even the reigns as it were) yet he hasn’t. He bowed to an inferior to another LEADER of a foreign Country instead of standing up like the leader of the most powerful Country this world has ever known.
If he wants America and the rest of the world to buy into his dream, he needs to be a LEADER not a namby pamby. I can’t explain it to you bro, but everyone but you and him gets it. What else can I say? I support my President, but he needs to man up and become the LEADER I know he can become. If he doesn’t, we are in a world of hurt. The pubs will take over and then we are screwed.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
10:43 pm
Budman: Bite me. Where were YOUR drops? Oh there weren’t any. You are that sacred cow just like the “single mom” who whine incessantly and it is now politically incorrect to challenge. You weren’t with me in combat. You were statistically a draftee who had no choice who did 364 and a wake up. Don’t talk to me about PX rangers you piece of washed up sht. YOU were probably a cook at Fort Hood during the police action in Vietnam who gets off on your “service” now that it is so “cool” to cry, “I’m a nam vet.”
That tired mantra is old and worn out. It’s more worn out than the “single mom” crap. Everyone else may give you a pass on that sht but I won’t. I’m tired of it. There are VOLUNTEERS in the military right now that are on their third and fourth tours of duty in the middle east. You whining bastiches from Nam aren’t a pimple on their asses. You aren’t a pimple on the ass of vets from Korea or WWII. You are nothing more than whining little SOB’s who’s time of whining is DONE.
budman
November 23rd, 2010
10:45 pm
BTW Fred I voted for President Obama also. couldn’t vote for Gramps and the prom queen.
budman
November 23rd, 2010
10:48 pm
Fred please refer the section on people take this so serious. Man take your meds before you stroke out!
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
10:53 pm
Oh, and while we are on the subject Buttman, the Vietnam era soldiers are some of the worse examples of American soldiers in the history of our Country. You rat bastiches committed more atrocities than at any time other than in the old west where the Army raped the Indians and the stripes of the enlisted men were turned upside down (the way they are to this day) in shame.
Don’t talk to ME about how cool you are, I know better. That draft dodger Sylvester Stalone may have made it seem like things were cool but I know better. You were a rag tag unprofessional rabble who smoked dope and killed each other as often as you killed the enemy. I for one am tired of your whining.
Had you DONE your duty in an honorable fashion, you wouldn’t be whining to me right now. Suck it up and drive on airborne. Oh wait, you WEREN’T Airborne. You were a dirty nasty leg REMF.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
10:55 pm
Sorry Budman, I have a tendency to be “fiery.”
AmVet
November 23rd, 2010
10:58 pm
As I’ve noted we all, to some degree or another, like to b*tch about things. Its the American way. And likely why most of us are here.
But I remained convinced that the things that unite us still far outweigh the things that divide us.
As I start this holiday weekend I am reminded of the countless things that we can all be thankful for.
Hang tough, Bookmaniacs. And keep up the good fight.
Til we meet again…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyV41-tFPcQ
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
10:58 pm
Here’s a good video for you Buttman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9lUG4gBjSE
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
11:00 pm
AmVet
November 23rd, 2010
10:58 pm
++++++
I stand chastised………
Adam
November 23rd, 2010
11:04 pm
Fred you’re right, I don’t get what you want out of him, not really. I mean the only example you gave was of him bowing. It’s a sign of respect not deference. Why give a crap about that unless the belief is that he’s making himself, and therefore all of us, subjects to a king of another nation. That’s not the modern world, and no one REALLY thinks that except for maybe some egomaniac king. That particular king, I think, understood it the way it was intended. What is the big deal?
oldguy
November 23rd, 2010
11:09 pm
hey fred,
Cramit!! from a Vietnam vet. I had much rather been shooting in Haight Ashby than in Siagon. I was drafted and sent there, only to be rediculed when we came back. I got over it by hating every liberal I meet. (BTW I still have a box of rifle targets with Jane Fonda’s picture on them….Makes target shooting all the more fun).
BTW2 Have almost finished converting my investments to gold….then to Canada to drop it off with relatives where Uncle can’t touch it…unlike the TSA who can apparently touch anything they want.
Soames
November 23rd, 2010
11:30 pm
Jay,
Which coporations were used as the reference for these numbers? Which sector of the economy made these outlandish profits? Also, since all of these bailouts/TARP funds are being payed back in record time, why isn’t the deficit shrinking? Curious minds want to know…
Regarding unemployment – how many net jobs were created/saved over the past two years? How many NET jobs are required to be created on a monthly basis to offset population growth etc? Have we broken that threshold yet? If we have, how many months have exceeded that threshold? LOL yeah we’re in bad shape and the folks we bailed out are the ones reaping the rewards.
China’s economy grew at 9 point something percent over the past 3rd quarter and ours grew at a revised 2.5%. Do you think that has anything to do with their exports being subsidized by their currency? It’s a shame that we are handcuffed by WTO rules/regulations while our trading partners get to abuse the system…and Germany didn’t even back us up at the G20…tis a sad day. Take a look at some of the trade cases that have been brought against China from various countries regarding dumping. The global community is waking up to this problem but we’re all too late. Politics.
BTW – I already know the answers to these questions, but I think other readers may ask themselves these same questions.
Plutocrats ARE holding the economy hostage and they reside on both sides of the aisle.
BADA BING
November 23rd, 2010
11:35 pm
off topic…..If you want to fly safe this holiday, carry a bomb with you.The chances that 2 bombs will be on the same plane are astronomical.
budman
November 23rd, 2010
11:54 pm
Fred as I am sure you do not know, more combat hours were flown in Vietnam than all of WWII Allied and Axis combined. The pilots of WW II were only in jeopardy for 30-45 minutes on their whole 14 hour mission. The American aviator in Vietnam was in jeopardy every mission he flew for usually the whole mission.
No I didn’t get drafted, I joined so I could get what I wanted, aviation. Sorry not a REMF, but as I am sure you don’t know a lot of REMFs were blown up at base camp by rockets and artillery. A cook, well to me that is an important position, keep me going.
As I told my avionics crew chief, at a funeral this past summer, yes we are still recovering human remains from that war and bringing them home, crew chiefs were very important to us pilots for we were just like NASCAR or NHRA all we got to do was drive the car or fly the Cobra. Fort Hood sorry again. You could not get me in a tank, or get me to jump out of a perfectly good aircraft.
Fred in closing my book will be out early next year. The “freedom of information act” has allowed me to support every statement I make. That’s a 180 foot notes in a 400 page book. I could not of written this book 5 years ago, almost all of the information was secret or classified. It only took me 1 1/2 years to research it, and sorry I’m not Sarah Palin I can’t write a book in 4 months, about 1 year to write it.
The book is for people who think they know what went on, but have seen too many Rambo movies to know the truth.
The truth is we never lost the war in Vietnam. We lost the war in the US big time. If you correlate the VC tactics in Vietnam to the loss of life in places like Kent state you will discover they are the same. Dead is dead..whether in Kent state or the Ia Drang valley it doesn’t matter. When Viet Cong arms were discovered in South East Asia why did they have “Students for a Democratic Society” printed on the boxes. The answer is we were up to our keestors with communist sympathizers in this country. One of the dumbest explanation for the war in the middle east is so we don’t have to fight them here. Well they are already here!! As Mark Twain said ” History doesn’t repeat its self, the best it can do is rhyme.”
Burroughston Broch
November 24th, 2010
12:01 am
Mr. Bookman, you don’t understand that more profit doesn’t automatically result in more hiring. We are in uncertain times for businesses, and uncertainty is risk. Let’s assume that I now employ 100 people and make a profit of $100,000/year. Now, suppose that I invest my money in hiring an additional 50 people; am I going to be able to increase my profit to $150,000/year? Am I going to be able to make a profit on my additional investment? In today’s uncertain climate, the odds against me are long so my answer is no; I am going to keep my 100 employees and be happy to make $100,000/year. If times were good and the economy were on the upswing, my answer would be yes.
In a perfect business, the number of employees is 1 – me. Each additional employee beyond the ones I absolutely need increases my risk.
Mrs. Norris
November 24th, 2010
12:10 am
Let’s give these businesses a bailout, subsidy and tax break. WooHoo! I begin to see how the likes of Fidel Castro come to power.
TnGelding
November 24th, 2010
12:58 am
Why hire more employees when they haven’t gotten every ounce of blood and every drop of sweat from the current workforce? Not to mention a tear or two.
It seems no matter how much we make we manage to spend more.
Obama has had more meetings with our top business executives than any president in history. Basically, they’ve rolled him under cover from the petty carping of the GOP. But he should have put pressure on the spineless Congress to resolve the tax issue a year ago.
TnGelding
November 24th, 2010
1:01 am
Even Fidel couldn’t practice pure communism. I was as disappointed in him as I have been in Obama up to this point. But I still have hope.
America Lost
November 24th, 2010
3:03 am
Blame it on Bush, you blamed all the other wrongs in the world on him, why not lay this on him as well?
TnGelding
November 24th, 2010
4:26 am
Let’s lay Bush to rest. His record speaks for itself.
Jay, how could record profits be being made during this “recession?” Oh, I see, TARP, the stimulus and investment in the auto industry ended that 17 months ago.
To backup an earlier claim:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/01/26/obama-meets-with-business-leaders/
stands for decibels
November 24th, 2010
5:50 am
mornin’.
Some People are Stupid@3:05 – No, No, and I won’t. But, my guess is there are millions like us.
So our JohnnyReb is one of that 47% we’re always hearing about who “pay no taxes.” explains a bit.
stands for decibels
November 24th, 2010
5:57 am
Not exactly a surprise, but when you take away the first-timers, Palin’s TLC show draws like your typical Fox “News” night-time food fight.
Sarah Palin’s Alaska which was ranked 10th last week, fell out of the top 25 and was ranked 68th by viewers with 3.04 million.
Joel Edge
November 24th, 2010
5:59 am
“If only we could free up business and make it possible to earn a profit again.”
We did. Everybody remember free trade, high tech jobs, it takes a village, etc. Thanks to our political leadership, business is now free to make a profit without us.
Just waiting on all them high tech jobs.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 24th, 2010
6:26 am
Bye Bye Empire
Maybe if crowds of people were to start gathering outside said corporations’ facilities reminding them of their presence….all the while people like me are busy working on ways to blow the hat off our proverbial floor trader with our answer to his rage.
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Why don’t you get off your lazy, entitlement-obsessed arse and go hire some people?
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 24th, 2010
6:34 am
I think it’s hilarious. Your Iddiot Messiah incentivized corporations to find ways to make more money with fewer employees, and now his acolytes are mad at…the corporations?
Unemployment was never as high under our President Bush as it has been during all of the Iddiot Messiah regime.
More regulation, higher taxes on the horizon, fewer jobs. It ain’t rocket science.
skydog
November 24th, 2010
6:52 am
Lil dick barry,
You talk too much. Get a job or a woman. Your amount of BS is not normal.
Normal
November 24th, 2010
6:55 am
Good Turkey Eve Day, y’all…
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USinUK,
A funny for you…
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2010/11/23/political-pictures-sunset-badass/