Voters unhappy with Obama; white voters would take Palin over him
“President Barack Obama does not deserve a second term, American voters say 49 – 43 percent, and he is in a statistical dead heat with possible Republican challengers Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. President Obama leads Sarah Palin 48-40 percent….
In a mythical Republican primary Ms. Palin gets 19 percent, including 25 percent of GOP women, followed by Romney with 18 percent, Huckabee at 17 percent, Gingrich at 15 percent, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty at 6 percent and Daniels, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and Sen. John Thune of South Dakota at 2 percent each.”
Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, points out that although Palin is leading the Republican field, “she is very unpopular among independents and although she recently said she thought she could defeat Obama, the data does not now necessarily support that assertion.” Palin is viewed unfavorably by 51 percent of voters overall and 54 percent of independents.
The problem, however, is that 74 percent of Republicans view Palin favorably, the highest favorability of any GOP candidates tested. Only 17 percent of Republicans view her unfavorably, suggesting that the nomination may be within her reach even if the presidency is not.
The details of the poll are also revealing:
Palin outpolls Obama among white voters by 47-41 percent. Among male voters, the two candidates would be tied 44-44. Among voters aged 35-54, Palin would lose by only 1 percentage point, and she would win by 2 percentage points among voters with incomes of more than $100,000.
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Goldie
November 22nd, 2010
4:16 pm
RB @ 3:56pm — thank God we have President Obama today… I shudder to imagine how the whole world would be today if Grandpa and his extremist pals got elected to the White House — the Second Great Depression and neverending war, invasions and occupations all over the world as a result.
popeye
November 22nd, 2010
4:16 pm
Mike Malloy takes on the right wing.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385×528178
Suck it up repugs and tell me what the republicans have ever done to help the middle class.
Matti
November 22nd, 2010
4:17 pm
Pogo @ 4:04,
This is not a football game or a horse race. Do you really think saying, “Oh noes! How could you stupid libs DO this to us?” one year, and “Nyah nyah we’re better than you!” two years later, actually means something? A house divided falls, and we’ve already fallen — right into the hands of the corporate plutocracy. Meanwhile, we bicker amongst ourselves like in-laws sharing a two-bedroom house (something more and more Americans are having to do, bless their hearts) while the economy for most of us tanks and a small percentage of the population absconds with all the money. What exactly have YOU won? Just curious.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:20 pm
jewcowboy
Somebody asked Unmentionable what he thought of the elections. His comment: “The wh*rehouse in under new management?”
SoCo
Yeah! Somebody said I didn’t like him because he was too black. Nope. I don’t like him because he’s too white! On those issues where I disagree so strongly with him, his is the traditional, conservative white view every time…
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2010
4:22 pm
Palin, Cheney, Tea Party, Fox News.
That ought to be good for another thousand posts.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:23 pm
josef nix,
“The wh*rehouse in under new management?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlB-VXskMv8
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:23 pm
Goldie
Not a GOP myself, but Obama is pretty much Bush Lite…still in Afghanistan, no repeal of DADT, repeal of DOMA not even on the agenda, habeas corpus still MIA. death warrents on American citizens, already gearing up for an incursion into Yemen…
TaxPayer
November 22nd, 2010
4:25 pm
The healthcare law requires large group health plans to allocate at least 85 cents per premium dollar to medical care, not administrative costs or profit. Plans for individuals or small groups must spend 80 cents per dollar.
If plans do not spend that much on care, policyholders get a rebate. HHS said on Monday up to 9 million Americans could be eligible for up to $1.4 billion in rebates starting in 2012.
Wow! No wonder Republicans have vowed to bring down that healthcare legislation that Obama and the Democrats passed into law. I mean, how’s a Republican supposed to make money under those conditions. It’s awful. They may as well just line up the Republicans in front of Democrat death panels and read off the verdict — death to your greed. It’s horrible, I tell you. What’s a health insurance executive to do! How can they possibly return a 25+% yoy return to their investors under such conditions. I see futures in fainting couches going through the roof. I’m getting in on the ground floor.
A private sector employee
November 22nd, 2010
4:26 pm
I’d take Palin over Obama. But I would take Mitt Romney or Bobby Jindal or just about any other Republican over Palin.
Why the obsession with Sarah Palin, Bookman? Much like the right wanted Pelosi to be minority leader…. the left wants Sarah Palin to be the Presidential nominee. The right realizes that people hate Pelosi so much that they will deliver Republican huge gains in the house to make sure that it doesn’t happen. The election of NP as minority leader guarantees Republican rule until the Dems elect a different leader. Similarly, the left wants Sarah Palin to run, knowing that she is a polarizing figure both for the centrist middle and for the Republican party. Here’s news for you Jay: IT ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN. The right is far to smart to nominate a non-starter like Sarah Palin. Anyone… such as YOU and Cynthia Tucker and the MSM… who harps on her shows their true colors. It’s your own wishful thinking for her to run. She’s the “Howard Dean” of the right… YEEEEEOOOOWWWWW! She will make headlines, but she is unelectable. The Deanie Babies and Mama Grizzlies can console each other.
But for you to harp on it, Jay, just tells me you are an idiot.
marky mark
November 22nd, 2010
4:27 pm
@jewcowboy….sorry, I couldnt respond sooner, work called. Regarding your 2:53, I disagree. If GM had gone thru a normal bankruptcy, the investors would have had a claim to the assets and would have gotten a percentage of their losses back. The way the government did it, they had no claims on anything. Sorry, but the process of bankruptcy is in part to help creditors recover assets……so if GM owed me a million or two, and I was treated like that, I would be furious at an IPO where I had no preferred standing.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:28 pm
Hillbilly
Yeah! At least. Did you happen to catch Whoopi Goldberg on Huckabee last p.m.?
Jewcowboy
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm
On those issues where I disagree so strongly with him, his is the traditional, conservative white view every time
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm
josef nix @ 4.23,
Which is what cracks me up when you have people like Joe ranting about his “far left wing policies”….left wing…really?
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:32 pm
marky mark,
“If GM had gone thru a normal bankruptcy, the investors would have had a claim to the assets and would have gotten a percentage of their losses back. ”
From what I understand they still can as there are actually 2 GM’s…the one now known as General Motors which just did the IPO, and the Motors Liquidation Company, which once old properties are cleaned up and sold off will reimburse investors with the proceeds.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2010
4:32 pm
Josef
I did happen to see a couple minutes of that. Didn’t exactly read from the playbook, did she?
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:39 pm
marky mark,
If you have questions about a claim, they even have a website.
https://www.motorsliquidation.com/ClaimsInformation.aspx
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:40 pm
Hillbilly
And neither did he. I found it refreshing. I’m a big Whoopi fan and I’ve grown to respect Huckabee as a gentleman…but when the ranh-ranh crowd takes off on Fox, I still can’t help remember that First Lady Michelle Obama chose his show to announce her “cause” of childhood obeisity and now here comes Whoopi doing the book tour shmooze…and him giving a copy to each member of the audience!
marky mark
November 22nd, 2010
4:40 pm
The problem with that theory is that the GM that did the IPO owns all the capital assets – plants, dies, etc. Dont get me wrong; we could not let a million workers be unemployed….nor we could allow a heavy machinery industry die that we may need in wartime……..but the Chrysler model didn’t (to the best of my memory) recapitalize by wiping out the old debt and telling the former investors/owners “tough”. And by the way, if old “properties” were a deal (not the capital equipment) everybody would be lining up to buy the old Doraville plant, along with the environmental issues that come with it…
Real American
November 22nd, 2010
4:41 pm
Poor President Obama, he should have let this country continue to slide and do nothing, he should have put these selfish Americans back to 1929 depression.
Please Mr. President do no run these idiots in this country to not deserve a classy, great President like you, history will show that this country was in the toilet but with your tough decisions things are qetting better.
When you have bigots like Hannity, Rush L. hoping that you fail, shows what a sick country we have. Mr. President these idiots dont realize when you fail America fails. Thank you Mr. President for saving millions of jobs.
George Bush destroyed this country and these idiots expected you to clean it up in 19 mos, this shows why we have two Americans.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:45 pm
marky mark,
And quite frankly,. I’m not sure how they would have squeezed blood from a turnip. At the time of their filing GM $82.29B in assets and $172.81B in debt…not alot to fit over.
http://d38e0yhv9tix0p.cloudfront.net/pdflib/pleading_1.pdf
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:46 pm
“not alot to fit over.”
Apologies…not a lot to fight over.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:46 pm
Real American
Let’s see…”these idiots expect you to clean it up in 19 mos.” True enough. Yet you have no problem in declaring him “great” based on the same 19 mos? I think you’re allowing your crush to cloud your judgment.
It’s way too early to be drawing any conclusions on his admistration.
Pogo
November 22nd, 2010
4:50 pm
And yes, about 95% of blacks will vote for a black if given the choice unless of course the candidate is one of those “tom” type republicans. You know, the Rice and Thomas “kind” of blacks( neither who were elected but were appointed by Republicans) but you know the “type”. The numbers to prove it are there as revealed in the the 2008 election. 95% of blacks voted for Obama in that election and 95% still support him to this day even though he has proven he is not an effective American leader for anyone of any skin color and blacks aren’t doing any better than anyone else under his leadership. Are blacks racist because they only vote for blacks if given the choice? Does voting for a person only because of their skin color make them racist? If so, then there, we have the answer. If this is the case then blacks are racist or at the very least they are “bigoted” (which in reality is an inter-changeable term for racist). If not, then what can be the explanation? Is it racial pride? I think a few well known dictators and tinpot leaders have used that old one to their advantage quite nicely in the past haven’t they and we know how that turned out. We all know how much white racial pride groups are hated and laughed at (as they should be)don’t we? But shouldn’t black racial pride be just as abhored? If not, then why? Are whites more “mongrel” than blacks therefore they have no right to racial pride? There are no races of people upon this earth that have not endured terrible hardships and downright slavery throughout their histories. At one time or another, every group of people have suffered because of who they were and most importantly what they were. We have a strange way of handling race in this country because in todays world certain groups are singled out as being victims to be coddled meanwhile other groups that have suffered just as much or more have no moral grounds at all for expecting special treatment. The cruel reality of todays and tommorows world is going to change all of that. In American today, the harm that is being done to the black community is being done by the black community itself. Black on black crime is rampant. Most (70%) of the black children are born to one parent households. These things cannot be blamed on white people and these things are terribly destructive.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:51 pm
marky mark,
I have to run, but a last thought. In Chapter 11 procedures stockholders are the last to be paid out, and in the case of GM, with about of $90B of debt more than assets, there is no way they would ever have been paid back.
That is risk in the stock market…and that is capitalism.
Don't Forget
November 22nd, 2010
4:51 pm
It’s way to early to draw conclusions about his adminitration and that’s even more true about comparisons to potential candidates.
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
4:52 pm
It’s way too early to be drawing any conclusions on his admistration
Not if you’re an ADHD-typed, bumper sticker feeding, sound bite drinking, instant gratification expecting citizen of the Instant States of America.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:55 pm
Southern Comfort,
“ADHD-typed, bumper sticker feeding, sound bite drinking, instant gratification expecting citizen of the Instant States of America.”
What’s wrong with instant gratification…oh wait…you wrote instant..not self. Never mind.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:55 pm
Don’t Forget…
I agree. Who knows what will “come out of the woodwork” between now and then?
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:56 pm
SoCo
Yep. There is that.
marky mark
November 22nd, 2010
4:59 pm
jewcowboy….I was not referring to stockholders only….suppliers and debt holders of all types got screwed by this approach….talk to ya later, have a good night…
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
November 22nd, 2010
4:59 pm
None of the above would be my choice. Of course ANYBODY including you Jay (just kidding, as you seen as liberal) over NObama.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2010
4:59 pm
josef
I seldom watch those types of shows but Huckabee stands out because I’ve never heard a shouting match on there. Maybe they have when I wasn’t watching, but not that I’ve seen.
SoCo
Saw your comment, a day or so ago, that private contractors would have to follow the same protocol as TSA people do now. I haven’t set foot in an airport in 15 years but I’m sure that’s right. Being a cynical and suspicious sort, I’d guess that the talk about privatizing it, probably comes from some well-connected muckity-muck, who just happens to own a private security firm of some sort.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2010
5:01 pm
Not if you’re an ADHD-typed, bumper sticker feeding, sound bite drinking, instant gratification expecting ……………
Sorry, I drifted off before I got to the end of the sentence.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
5:04 pm
Hillbilly
Not a regular watcher myself…was just channel surfing…same thing when I saw the First Lady…but like you, I’ve never seen him in a shouting match and, what really does impress me with him, is that he defers to his guests even when you know his own politics are in opposition…
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
5:05 pm
Pogo et. al…
Why worry about what 95% of Black voters think or do? What you should be thinking is “How do I reach out to that 95%” instead. It’s not like almost all Blacks agree with Obama simply because of race. That’s just as logical as all people hated the healthcare bill because they thought it was socialist. Neither statement or conclusion is factually correct.
People try to explain things in black and white context that can not be explained that way. It was partially a symbol of pride for American Blacks to finally see one who would be considered us to get elected POTUS. Not because we did it, but because there were Whites who believed in him as well. How do you think the Italians felt when the first Italian-American was elected to a high office? How about the Jewish Americans? People need to quit harping on the Black issue. The Black community has voted 100% in previous elections for White candidates and almost 95% for Democratic candidates. Was that based on race? Did anyone make a racial issue out of that?
At one time or another, every group of people have suffered because of who they were and most importantly what they were. We have a strange way of handling race in this country because in todays world certain groups are singled out as being victims to be coddled meanwhile other groups that have suffered just as much or more have no moral grounds at all for expecting special treatment.
Questions for you… How long were Anglo-Americans prosecuted on this soil? Native Americans? African-Americans? Do you know the origins of the word picnic? When was the last Black person lynched in the US?
If we were living in some racially harmonious society, you might have a damned good point. However, look up the names Michael Donald and James Byrd Jr. Those two were lynched in 1981 and 1998 respectively. If you didn’t already know, I just answered the last question for you. Care to try any of the others?
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
5:09 pm
What’s wrong with instant gratification…oh wait…you wrote instant..not self.
Being a cynical and suspicious sort, I’d guess that the talk about privatizing it, probably comes from some well-connected muckity-muck, who just happens to own a private security firm of some sort.
Ding, ding, ding, ding….. We have a winner!!!
But Rep. John Mica, R-Fla., a longtime critic of the TSA, counts among his campaign contributors some of the companies that might take the TSA’s place. In the past 13 years, he has received almost $81,000 in campaign donations from political action committees and executives connected to some of the private contractors already at 16 U.S. airports.
Mica’s spokesman says those contributions have never influenced his decision-making. As the ranking Republican on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, Mica is expected to lead the panel once the new Congress convenes in January.
lovelyliz
November 22nd, 2010
5:11 pm
The number of Americans viewing Sarah Palin unfavorably has hit the highest point since she burst onto the national stage over two years ago, according to a poll out Friday.
The Gallup survey conducted in the days after the Nov. 2 election found more than half of Americans — 52 percent — hold a negative opinion of the former Alaska governor. Only 40 percent viewed her favorably, which ties her lowest score from about a year ago.
Palin, the GOP’s vice presidential candidate in 2008, is among Republican names being floated as a possible presidential pick in two years time. The poll found she might have a good chance of capturing the nomination: fully 80 percent of Republicans have a positive opinion of her.
She might have a harder time in the general election. Gallup found 81 percent of Democrats and 53 percent of independents viewed her unfavorably — while fewer than four in 10 view her favorably.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/144491/Palin-Unfavorable-Score-Hits-New-High.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Government+-+Politics+-+USA
Dusty
November 22nd, 2010
5:16 pm
Sorry, Can’t get interested in this one. Too much repetition of repetition of repetition. Is there nothing new under the sun for Bookman?
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
5:18 pm
DUSTY
From your post last p.m. The event Saturday is our own shindig, unconnected to anybody else…
Rck Patel
November 22nd, 2010
5:34 pm
Pretty populist princess Sarah Palin is prestigious, persuasive, and powerful. A Palin presidency is predicted by perceptive pundits & political prognosticators.
Dusty
November 22nd, 2010
5:40 pm
Josef,
Just a school thing? Sounds wonderful. Do you think many schools would have that much diversity?
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
5:43 pm
In relation to casting the vote for “one of ours.” Of course that factors into it. A Jew, Southerner, American Indian, or Gay does get some extra points in my evaluation when considering a candidate. I’d like to say “no” but I would be lying if I did. It’s not my deciding factor, but it’s there. And it’s just as likely to operate the opposite way…I wouldn’t vote for Lieberman for dog catcher because of something he did which, looking at it from the Jewish perspective, I found highly offensive and “not speaking well for our people.”
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
5:44 pm
DUSTY
Not very many would have the diversity. Most urban districts do have at least one or two which do, though.
John Galt Jr.
November 22nd, 2010
5:46 pm
Sharon’s post November 22nd, 2010 12:23 pm was correct. People don’t care who they put in the White House. Look at the current BOZO. He has made W look like a million. Palin is no dummy, even if she is portrayed as one. The left is stomping up and down like a spoiled child, Atlas is shrugging and I am laughing my ass off.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
5:49 pm
“Look at the current Bozo…”
And the Bozo before him, and the Bozo before him, and the Bozo before him…
I’d posit that the one “qualification” befitting just about all of them is that he be a Bozo…
Mr_B
November 22nd, 2010
5:54 pm
SoCo@5:05 One of the most eloquently stated explanations I have seen here. Wait for the attacks….
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 22nd, 2010
5:57 pm
Sharon: I have only heard [Palin] speak once and she is a racial hate
mongering bitter woman.
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Go ahead and give us that racist quote from Palin.
DIdn’t think so, liar.
And that makes YOU the racist.
Sharon: Racist.
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
5:58 pm
Mr_B
They can attack all they want, but it needs to be said. I don’t want or expect any “special” treatment because I’m Black or my ancestors came across the Atlantic in shackles. I just want to have the same opportunities as everyone else. Don’t try to cheat me or shortchange me. I think that goes for most Americans of African descent.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 22nd, 2010
5:58 pm
It was partially a symbol of pride for American Blacks to finally see one who would be considered us to get elected POTUS. Not because we did it, but because there were Whites who believed in him as well. How do you think the Italians felt when the first Italian-American was elected to a high office? How about the Jewish Americans?
Well, we ain’t had a good Redneck President since Andy Jackson. Back when he was elected, all the rednecks showed up for the swearing in and tore up the fancy hedges and furniture and all that fancy stuff. It’s our turn, so get behind Sarah and not in the way some of you filthy-minded folks think.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
November 22nd, 2010
6:00 pm
Palin is just a smokescreen. Keep moving, nothing to see here, keep moving….
Has anybody noticed Ireland, probably Spain and Portugal, needing bailouts?
What’s gonna happen over there when the meltdown happens?
Sarah Palin hopes her daughter wins on DWTS !! You betcha.
Keep moving, nothing to see here….
Chris Christie for POTUS in 2012 !!
Dusty
November 22nd, 2010
6:03 pm
Mr Patel 5:34
You predicate the possibility of a potenitally purposeful politician. Mrs. Palin presents a presence of power and personality. The portent of the pusilanimous public are perilous and perfidious to the partient Mrs. Palin. Prejudice poisons purposes of people. Mrs. Palin ,in particular, is poisoned by publicists, professors and people of poor perception. Pity these “professionals”!
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 22nd, 2010
6:06 pm
I like the idea about not flying because of the TSA – yep just tell the boss I need a couple of weeks to get to Australia on business (drive to CA, cruise to Australia)
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2010
6:06 pm
What this column really needed was a graph.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
6:08 pm
Hillbilly
D*mn! You got a chart! Some folks just can’t be satisfied!
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
6:09 pm
Has anybody heard anything more about jt winning the Jay lottery…?
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
November 22nd, 2010
6:10 pm
CAGE MATCH — Sarah Palin versus Rachel Maddow
Who wins?
Paulo977
November 22nd, 2010
6:11 pm
SoCo @5:05
Oh very well said ..you certainly were on a roll. Well thought out and articulated
JDW
November 22nd, 2010
6:11 pm
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
2:58 pm
jm,
“It’s interesting to imagine what the world would be like if W had actually paid attention to Powell.”
Even more interesting to wonder what might have been had he run in 2000. He was by far the most qualified and best candidate from either side and his decision not to put up with the BS involved is a damn shame. Can’t blame him nor others that have made the same choice…say Sam Nunn.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
6:14 pm
Information
As long as it’s a match of wits…Maddow…
Dusty
November 22nd, 2010
6:15 pm
Well, HillBilly,
I myself was wishing Bookman would add a snack bar. Would keep me from running off to the kitchen every night. Just call me Paul Dean.
Disgusted
November 22nd, 2010
6:15 pm
CAGE MATCH — Sarah Palin versus Rachel Maddow
Who wins?
Easy. Maddow is 6′ 1″ and athletic enough to qualify for a Rhodes Scholarship (got to be “athletic and vigorous” to qualify, you know, and I was amused to see her towering over some US officers during her Afghanistan visit.) Palin’s high school basketball guard experience is no match.
Gordon Gecko's Lawyer
November 22nd, 2010
6:15 pm
Three big hedge funds get raided by the feds today for insider trading but all america wants to do is talk about Sarah Palin and other beaten horses.
Sad.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
6:16 pm
PAULO
Ole Missus has announced she’s leaving the Big House down to Pryor Street…any thoughts about what’s next?
Dusty
November 22nd, 2010
6:17 pm
aww PAULA Dean. Off to the kitchen.
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
6:21 pm
Appreciated Paulo.
Don't Forget
November 22nd, 2010
6:21 pm
Three big hedge funds get raided by the feds today for insider trading but all america wants to do is talk about Sarah Palin and other beaten horses.
That’s because they don’t understand wall street and prefer to focus on sound bites and slogans.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 22nd, 2010
6:24 pm
Ole Missus has announced she’s leaving the Big House down to Pryor Street…any thoughts about what’s next?
Well, they’ll search the whole country for the best school chief, and when it’s all said and done, the best three people will all be Those People. It’s just amazing that all the colledge presidents ain’t Those People, because Atlanta finds them to be the very best for school chief. colledge presidents, and mayors. I just don’t understand why they ain’t running the whole country and all the states. This from a old redneck that has watched this happen for nigh on 40 years.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 22nd, 2010
6:25 pm
Southern Comfort@5:05 pm
Pogo et. al…
It was partially a symbol of pride for American Blacks to finally see one who would be considered us to get elected POTUS. Not because we did it, but because there were Whites who believed in him as well. How do you think the Italians felt when the first Italian-American was elected to a high office? How about the Jewish Americans?
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You forgot Harry Callahan’s favorite President John F Kennedy, the first Catholic president (R.I.P.) Nov 22, 1963
Mr_B
November 22nd, 2010
6:28 pm
SoCo: It seems your attitude is shared by the vast majority of African-descended teens that it is my priveledge to teach. AA kids are pretty much like white kids, some great, some slackers, most (white and black) decent people who don’t see nearly as much color as us old farts. What I don’t often see is the sense of entitlement that many of the “Real Americans” ascribe to them.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
6:29 pm
Redneck
You can bet your last Judah P that whoever it is, they won’t be from Atlanta, though…kinda funny when you think you can’t produce a product you’d buy yourself…
My middle name is David
November 22nd, 2010
6:32 pm
People are pissed. Their minds are made up..
Don’t y’all regular bloggists get tired of pissing on each other everyday?
Sarah Palin this… Obama that…
Have you noticed that groceries are more expensive? Why?
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
6:32 pm
Mr B
Having been my priviledge to teach as well, I can say that we will begin to see progress once this hide-bound lot (us old f*rts) are out of the way…
lynnie gal
November 22nd, 2010
6:36 pm
That these polls are even this close is evidence of the dumbing down of America and the glorification of stupidity. I wonder if it’s these “chemical balancing” drugs that the drug companies are pedaling is what’s causing this insanity. There’s no scientific evidence that these drugs even work for depression or anxiety. I think drug companies have colluded to alter people’s minds to confuse them and allow themselves to be led by idiots. That’s the only logical explanation I can think of to explain why anyone would vote for Sarah Palin. They’re on drugs–
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
6:40 pm
lynnie
Okay, I’ll buy that…but if that’s the case, then these same dumbed downs would be the ones voting for, say, Obama…after all, that broad brush you swing at your fellow Americans catches them, as well as you and me, in that sweep…
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
6:41 pm
Common Sense
How could I have left him out… especially today?
Mr_B & josef
I’ve long thought that once my generation (70’s children) dies out, the only vestiges of bigotry and/or racism that will still be alive wouldn’t be enough to blow your nose with. The younger generations are more and more integrated. Even when the older generations try to segregate them, you have things like facebook and online gaming that brings multitudes of different people together. I think the 2008 election was but a glimpse into the future.
Mr_B
November 22nd, 2010
6:42 pm
Shalom Josef
Kamchak
November 22nd, 2010
6:51 pm
CAGE MATCH — Sarah Palin versus Rachel Maddow
Who wins?
Who cares?
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
6:54 pm
Mr B
Shalom!
SoCo…
When I stop and forget my own particular “issues” and my own nyah-nyah and look at just how far we have come in just my lifetime…I come away with a great deal of hope for the future…
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 22nd, 2010
6:55 pm
Southern Comfort @6:41 pm
Mr_B & josef
I’ve long thought that once my generation (70’s children) dies out, the only vestiges of bigotry and/or racism that will still be alive wouldn’t be enough to blow your nose with. The younger generations are more and more integrated. Even when the older generations try to segregate them, you have things like facebook and online gaming that brings multitudes of different people together. I think the 2008 election was but a glimpse into the future.
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I agree that we are getting much better as us old f&rts fade away (remember we never die LOL)
I always see hope in my grandkids. Totally blind to race, but they call an A’hole an A’hole when they meet one LOL.
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
7:08 pm
I always see hope in my grandkids. Totally blind to race, but they call an A’hole an A’hole when they meet one LOL.
I won’t call any of y’all old f@rts since I’m climbing that hill myself, but as josef said, I’ve seen a lot of change in the short time I’ve been walking the earth. I try to avoid falling into the thinking that allows one to use race as a scapegoat for any and all perceived injustices.
josef
Those “issues” will soon be a thing of the past as well. I think there will soon just be an “American” race. We’ll all be so well blended, it will be hard to tell who’s who.
Dave R.
November 22nd, 2010
7:13 pm
Anytime Jay has nothing of consequence to write about (a daily occurrence for him, usually), he brings out the Palin card.
What a waste of a column.
Bill Campbell
November 22nd, 2010
7:14 pm
If all white voters voted like black voters…there would be no minorities in any public office!
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2010
7:17 pm
I don’t know a thing about the Atlanta School System but you’d think in a system that size, they probably already have somebody, plenty capable of running it.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 22nd, 2010
7:20 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe@7:17 pm
I don’t know a thing about the Atlanta School System but you’d think in a system that size, they probably already have somebody, plenty capable of running it.
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Sadly Superman or Superwoman isn’t real
On Vacation
November 22nd, 2010
7:21 pm
That guy who’s running the TSA reminds me of Michael Brown.
I have to fly tomorrow afternoon. I hope I get picked for the naked scan thing. I’m gonna make ‘em fondle my junk just to create a messpool.
Opt-Out !!
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
7:24 pm
HD
That’s probably the case. The problem is that they will never recognize that person for the talent and skills they possess.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
7:25 pm
SoCo
I’ve been intrigued by the Ibero-American concept of the raza cosmica and its promotion as the national norm in several societies…Brazil being notable…the number of individuals now choosing that as their racial denominator is approaching half overall and in some regions has surpassed that halfway point…we’ll get there…we had already begun in the Lower South back before the Wah-uh, but it got put on hold during the occupation…
Dusty
November 22nd, 2010
7:30 pm
Too much talk here about diversity. I think when you have to talk about it so much you are still working on acceptance.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
7:31 pm
This choice for superintendent is one of the more blatant examples of what is in reality the Carpetbag-Scalawag imperialist occupation mentality…the locals are just too backward to make decisions without their “guidance.” It’s colonialism in it’s purest form and is a continuation of that “missionary complex.” Sadly, too many of us buy into it. But, it does keep the natives from getting TOO restless…
Dirty Dawg
November 22nd, 2010
7:33 pm
the thought of that makes me realize that those folks that say we might have to resort to our ‘Second Amendment Rights’ may just have something.
Bottom line is that it would appear that the time for the white population to actually become a minority can’t get here fast enough…we’ve managed to FUBAR this place so bad that we may, indeed, never recover.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 22nd, 2010
7:34 pm
I have to fly tomorrow afternoon. I hope I get picked for the naked scan thing. I’m gonna make ‘em fondle my junk just to create a messpool.
Opt-Out !!
Well, I don’t fly, tho I had a chance once that was ruint when @@ said she’d go indoors if she was buck-nekkid by her pool and heard a plane. But if I ever do fly, I’m holding out for a
feeling uppat-down by Big Sis at the TSA. She’s a little on the skinny side, but she looks alot like the missus.TaxPayer
November 22nd, 2010
7:35 pm
Just as curious as Session’s non-response to the suit are some of those Republicans who have jumped on board. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) was a co-sponsor of the Wyden-Bennett bill. During a June 2009 appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” moreover, he was asked what, exactly, was wrong with the individual mandate.
“There isn’t anything wrong with it,” he replied, “except some people look at it as an infringement upon individual freedom. But when it comes to states requiring it for automobile insurance, the principle then ought to lie the same way for health insurance, because everybody has some health insurance costs, and if you aren’t insured, there’s no free lunch. Somebody else is paying for it.”
But it was Republicans that says it is not at all like car insurance and now it is Republicans that says it is like car insurance. Republicans can be so contradictory.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
7:39 pm
Now as far as this pat down-feel up stuff is concerned, what goes on between consenting adults is none of my business…
On Vacation
November 22nd, 2010
7:39 pm
Netflix is changing my plan. Oh no !
BTW
47 years ago JFK was assassinated in Dallas.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2010
7:42 pm
josef @ 7:31
One of the neighboring counties up here, finally hired a local (going back generations) to be the County Manager, a couple years back. He’s been a breath of fresh air. He pinches pennies, he understands the people, what they want and what they need. More places should give it a try.
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
7:43 pm
Now as far as this pat down-feel up stuff is concerned, what goes on between consenting adults is none of my business
And on that note, I’m signing off to go get ready for Monday Night Football…
Later Y’all!!!
Jay
November 22nd, 2010
7:43 pm
Stirring defense of the locals, there, Josef.
Where you from again?
Don't Forget
November 22nd, 2010
7:43 pm
Republicans can be so contradictory.
Ya think? lol I guess the old senile vote doesn’t remember those things.
TaxPayer
November 22nd, 2010
7:48 pm
Insider trading! Isn’t that against the law. So that’s how some of those hedge fund managers got rich while enriching their clientele. I wonder how many of them cheated on their taxes too.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
7:48 pm
JAY
Ah, how well you know me! I was just about to post that I would not put myself up for such a post simply because I am not FROM here. For all of having lived in Atlanta longer than anywhere else in my life, there is just too much I DON’T know to qualify me over a born-bred-and raised Atlantan…