Voters unhappy with Obama; white voters would take Palin over him
“President Barack Obama does not deserve a second term, American voters say 49 – 43 percent, and he is in a statistical dead heat with possible Republican challengers Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. President Obama leads Sarah Palin 48-40 percent….
In a mythical Republican primary Ms. Palin gets 19 percent, including 25 percent of GOP women, followed by Romney with 18 percent, Huckabee at 17 percent, Gingrich at 15 percent, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty at 6 percent and Daniels, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and Sen. John Thune of South Dakota at 2 percent each.”
Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, points out that although Palin is leading the Republican field, “she is very unpopular among independents and although she recently said she thought she could defeat Obama, the data does not now necessarily support that assertion.” Palin is viewed unfavorably by 51 percent of voters overall and 54 percent of independents.
The problem, however, is that 74 percent of Republicans view Palin favorably, the highest favorability of any GOP candidates tested. Only 17 percent of Republicans view her unfavorably, suggesting that the nomination may be within her reach even if the presidency is not.
The details of the poll are also revealing:
Palin outpolls Obama among white voters by 47-41 percent. Among male voters, the two candidates would be tied 44-44. Among voters aged 35-54, Palin would lose by only 1 percentage point, and she would win by 2 percentage points among voters with incomes of more than $100,000.
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Bye Bye Empire
November 22nd, 2010
2:12 pm
Fine. But judging by that 91% in the ‘Black’ column who are for Obama, he can do anything he wants and he will still have the black vote.
And just think. All you have to do is hang a “Republican” or “Conservative” ID on him and then you’ll have 91% of white southerners who’ll vote for that black candidate just as faithfully.
Matti
November 22nd, 2010
2:12 pm
jewcowboy (and everyone else!)
“WAR EAGLE” neither reflects nor speaks for all graduates of that fine (boodawg trouncing) university. Thank you.
Paulo977
November 22nd, 2010
2:15 pm
Sharon @12:18pm
It’s interesting that you posted your disgust in the event of a Palin take-overbecause my friend , a doctor , who was once a PeaceCo and now working for the American Embassy in many parts of the planet e-mailed me with the same intentions of leaving the US!!!
Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 22nd, 2010
2:15 pm
Nontaxpayers happy with Obama; black voters would take him over Palin.
BuiltToLast
November 22nd, 2010
2:15 pm
Like I stated before; if the people of Georgia could vote in someone like Nathan Deal for governor, Sarah Palin has a 99% chance for President.
The people in this country have lost their ability to think clearly; if the ability ever existed in the first place.
HDB
November 22nd, 2010
2:16 pm
WAR EAGLE
November 22nd, 2010
2:00 pm
“If these idiots had any brains at all, they’d have SBA money set aside for those wanting to start a business and hire people.”
Lest you forget…many of the loans of the SBA are TIED into the BANKING industry….and the BANKS aren’t lending!! The SBA guarantees the bank loans…but the BANKS do the lending!! Blame the BANKS!!
“They’d also have tax credits for companies that can create new energy sources cheaper than oil and hire people.” What do you think the Green Initiative will do once Republicans quit being myopic and short-sighted!!
“Allow drilling anywhere and everywhere.” Drilling has opened up….but the environmental concerns ARE there to be dealt with. Don’t believe that a reoccurrance of the Gulf couldn’t happen again!!!
” no one is going on vacation-they have no moeny. So let’s make gas less expensive.” Why aren’t you railing againt Corporate America…who’s sitting on TRILLIONS…but aren’t expanding??
” And where is obama’s birth certificate from Kenya where he really was born?” The President was born in HAWAI’I…which at last I knew, IS the 50th STATE!! His birth certificate has been released by the State of Hawai’i…enough said!!!
“The first president to declare that the US is a muslim nation.” Actually, the first President that began that idea was George W. Bush…by placing a Quran IN the White House!!!
According to Garavi Gujarat News (GG2.NetNews dated 19/10/2005), US President George W. Bush placed the Koran in the library with this statement to visiting Muslims seated before him: “All of us gathered tonight share a conviction that America must remain a welcoming and tolerant land. . .”
Was Mr. Bush speaking from naivete when he said those words or were they planted there to be politically savvy with the Muslim sleeper cells populating this country?”
Opinion????
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
2:17 pm
Matti,
“all graduates of that fine (boodawg trouncing) university.”
I dunno…I’ve been in the Bucketshop on a Saturday before
Adam
November 22nd, 2010
2:18 pm
Nice Guy – In such a matchup? You mean, will black people largely NOT vote for Palin? If so, then your answer is correct.
I actually meant in general.
Excessive spending, more entitlements, higher taxes, weak leadership, and a forced takeover of health care
I call BS and shenanigans on at least half of what you said there. Excessive spending? Higher taxes? Takeover of healthcare? Please do explain, because the facts do not back this up. Of course one poster is right in subjectiveness. Excessive spending could mean beyond a certain amount, but when you compare it to Bush you will not find the same margin. Higher taxes didn’t happen, that’s for sure, unless you’re trying to say he didn’t CUT them as much as his predecessor. And takeover of healthcare… unless you see placing certain regulations as a “takeover” that makes no sense.
HDB
November 22nd, 2010
2:18 pm
Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 22nd, 2010
2:15 pm
Are you intimating that black voters are not knowledgable of the issues? Are you intimating that black voters and those residents of the inner cities do NOT pay taxes??
PLEASE don’t go there!! Too many people have voted AGAINST their own self-interest to ensure that the poor stay that way…and the preponderance of those voted GOP!!
Chris
November 22nd, 2010
2:19 pm
My God, the fact that anyone would vote for an idiot like Palin is indicative of the problems we are having in the American educational system. She has to be the most ignorant politician ever. I mean reality shows? If they ever elect her, America will be in serious crap. I mean it’s like these people have a death wish or something. Imagine Palin dealing with foreign policy, negotiating with the likes of N. Korea and China. They will declare WWIII on this country.
Chris
November 22nd, 2010
2:22 pm
Hell no Black people won’t vote for Palin! We know an idiot when we see one. Apparently White folks have not learned that lesson yet. You would think they would have learned after GW Bush.
Steve
November 22nd, 2010
2:22 pm
91% of Blacks would vote for Obama and 1% for Palin. And they say racism isn’t alive and well these days. The only difference seems to be the ‘host’.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
2:25 pm
I say she should run…if we have to endure 23 months of campaigning, it should at least provide us with numerous SNL skits.
AmVet
November 22nd, 2010
2:26 pm
Hell no
Black peopleAmerican Jews won’t vote for Palin! We know an idiot when we see one.Just tagging along for the ride, Chris!
Adam
November 22nd, 2010
2:26 pm
Steve: It’s less of an issue of white vs black but more about smart vs dumb, for black people. They understand that the politicians they elect should be smarter, and more capable of dealing with issues of both domestic AND foreign policy. I won’t say it’s “because they’re black,” but you really should look at how closely these numbers match up with previous Dem vs Republican presidents.
jm
November 22nd, 2010
2:27 pm
I love innovation
http://www.popsci.com/bown/2010/product/aquapro-holland-groasis-waterboxx
Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 22nd, 2010
2:28 pm
Dear HDB @ 2:18, apologies for getting your panties in a wad. I was insulted by the vapid topic and its inherent racial pandering, and was mocking the lack of thought therein by using a simple mirror technique.
Nice Guy
November 22nd, 2010
2:31 pm
Kamchak – “There’s your sign”
There’s YOUR sign.
Chris
November 22nd, 2010
2:32 pm
For anyone who votes for her, if she wins, you deserve what you get. Good luck with that, because I will be getting the hell out of this country. The dumbing down of America will be complete.
HDB
November 22nd, 2010
2:35 pm
Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 22nd, 2010
2:28 pm
By stooping to such levels, you perpetuate the myths….and the hostilities!! What was attempted to be shown WAS the racial pandering of the GOP…and it’s meglomaniacal support for someone so polarizing and void of political reality that to HONESTLY view Sarah Palin as a viable candidate for the Presidency speaks VOLUMES for the intellectual DISHONESTY and the political vacuum that this nation finds itself in!!
John K
November 22nd, 2010
2:35 pm
Adam – Blacks care about ’smart vs. dumb’? Good one. I would have posted this sooner but thanks to your comment I was busy wiping soda off my monitor.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
2:36 pm
jm @ 2.27,
Pretty sweet.
Adam
November 22nd, 2010
2:37 pm
I would have posted this sooner but thanks to your comment I was busy wiping … off my monitor.
You were busy wiping what off your monitor? I don’t swing that way dude.
HDB
November 22nd, 2010
2:37 pm
Steve
November 22nd, 2010
2:22 pm
Question: would you call it racist if 100% of white people voted for a white candidate?? Isn’t that what happened from 1776 – 2004??
jm
November 22nd, 2010
2:39 pm
jewcowboy – yeah. Amazing what an idea can do. Could make stopping the desertification of China and Africa a real possibility. Mitigating climate change. Improving the environment. Saving coral reefs (remember a lot of the Caribbean coral reef killing Jay likes to highlight comes from sedimentation from winds off Africa).
Amazing what one small idea might do. We’ll see. The guy deserves a Nobel one day if widely adopted. Not that I think a Nobel is worth anything. Maybe a big pat on the back and a billion dollars.
HDB
November 22nd, 2010
2:40 pm
John K November 22nd, 2010
2:35 pm
“Adam – Blacks care about ’smart vs. dumb’? Good one.”
Yes, we do…..we also care about employment, education, domestic spending, foreign affairs, taxation, representation, nuclear proliferation, the environment, energy policy………
Any other questions??
Steve
November 22nd, 2010
2:40 pm
Adam, you’re kidding, right? If intellect is any kind of factor, then explain to me the following:
Marion Barry
Andy Young
John Lewis (50 million freakin times)
Sidney Dorsey
Bill Campbell
Victor Hill
The entire Clayton County School Board
Vernon Jones
Cynthia McKinney
Virtually EVERY black person who has ever held office in DeKalb County
“Smart” is a factor in black voting? SERIOUSLY?????
jm
November 22nd, 2010
2:40 pm
HDB 2:37 – that’s a ridiculous analogy. No one had a choice before. How about another topic other than race?
LIbEralS
November 22nd, 2010
2:41 pm
Jay, the obvious point of your title is to insinuate that the white people who support Palin are racists. To support this insinuation, you state that Palin leads Obama 47-41 with respect to white voters. Thus, the liberal theory goes, 47% of white people are racists, while 41% are not. I therefore presume that the title of your next “column” will imply that black voters are racists because 95% of them favor Obama over Palin. Nevermind, I forgot that the only people genetically capable of racism are white.
Bill
November 22nd, 2010
2:43 pm
Two years is a long time. GHW Bush had a 91% approval rating 18 months before the election, and he lost. It all depends on what the economy and jobs look like in 2012
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
2:44 pm
“Palin was advised by those who admire her natural gifts to bone up on policy and devote herself to governing Alaska successfully. Instead, she quit her job as governor after two and a half years, published a book (another is due next week), and seemed to chase money and empty celebrity. ” ~ Mona Charen
Yep…that about sums it up.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 22nd, 2010
2:45 pm
Dear HDB @ 2:35, “By stooping to such levels…” What do you mean by stooping to (Bookman’s) level?
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
2:46 pm
“She should be presiding over meetings on oil and gas leases in the North Slope, or devising alternatives to Obamacare. Every public spat with Dave Letterman or Politico, or the “lamestream media,” or God help us, Levi Johnston, diminishes her.” ~ Mona Charen
But those infantile spats keep her name in the media spotlight…that counts for something right?
Adam
November 22nd, 2010
2:48 pm
Steve: I was speaking of presidential and other more major non-local elections. I don’t know any of those people and I don’t live in that county so I have no idea what you’re talking about there.
marky mark
November 22nd, 2010
2:48 pm
“Anybody here get in on the GM stock at last week’s IPO? All sold out from what I heard… thank God we have President Obama who helped to save the American automaking industry — they’re making PROFIT$ once again and paying us back the $$ we loaned them!”
Hey Goldie….its a little easier to recapitalize if you tell the original investors and stockholders to screw off…wonder how THEY feel about that little IPO?
HDB
November 22nd, 2010
2:48 pm
jm
November 22nd, 2010
2:40 pm
The analogy IS sound…..choices were available earlier…but not exercised!! Lest you forget Shirley Chisholm’s run for the Presidency; Frederick Douglass was also a VP candidate. Thwy weren’t selected in their political conventions…so the choice that the nation had has been primarily white people; therefore 100% of white people voted for a white candidate from 1776 – 2004….and no one decried racism! Is is because black people weren’t CONSIDERED as CITIZENS until 1964 (and still not considered as constituents by Republicans now!!)??
BTW…I didn’t bring this discussion up; I just countered the argument about the 91% black vote being viewed as a racist bent…….just remember: prior to 2008, 100% of the black vote ALSO went to a white candidate for the Presidency!!
Tosh.No
November 22nd, 2010
2:49 pm
Not this white guy. I’ll move to Canada if Palin is ever our President.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
2:49 pm
jm,
“Amazing what one small idea might do.”
It truly is…This is really where US can excel and the US government can supply a stimulus that can really help the economy as well as the environment.
Adam
November 22nd, 2010
2:51 pm
HDB: I think that point is not as useful as say, the Democratic vs Republican vote. I think it’s pretty similar for the past few decades when you consider the votes demographically along party lines. The interests of minorities have been better served by Democrats, and the interests of corporations have been better served by the GOP. It’s mostly economics, not racism.
Adam
November 22nd, 2010
2:52 pm
Tosh.No: I’ll move quite a bit further than Canada if that happens. Hopefully somewhere that is far away from both the US and any foreign “enemy” with nuke potential.
HDB
November 22nd, 2010
2:52 pm
Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 22nd, 2010
2:45 pm
Jay is supposed to invigorate thought….without animus! He does that more often than not; Republicans promote animus WITHOUT thought…and I know that you are better than that!! By grasping at the least common denominator…you perpetuate the animus and myths pertaining to the black electorate!!
Things have to change……
Tosh.No
November 22nd, 2010
2:52 pm
Course 4 more years of Obama’s flip flopping, and I’ll want to move there also.
AmVet
November 22nd, 2010
2:52 pm
Steve, the obvious fact remains that for every black example you list, I (and you too, if you had the intellectual honesty) could list 50 white examples.
Yet you don’t.
You seem exceedingly hung up on blacks and black voters.
Is there something you want to share?
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
2:53 pm
marky mark,
“wonder how THEY feel about that little IPO?”
I would say they would be probably be ambivalent since they would have lost their investment even if the US hadn’t stepped in. Capitalism at its finest. If they had been smart investor they would have sold before GM went bankrupt and taken their lumps.
jm
November 22nd, 2010
2:54 pm
Interesting
Powell, like other commentators, believes the new Republican ascendancy could end in the breaking of political gridlock because it spreads the responsibility to get things done between both parties, giving both a reason to compromise and achieve.
But, Powell said more than once, this is a period of uncertainty in a tempestuous political system. “It’s always been tough in political life,” Powell said. “The founding fathers did not create a system that was supposed to be smooth and easy. It was always supposed to be a clash of ideas — people believing in something and fighting for it.”
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/winds-battle-plan/
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
2:58 pm
jm,
It’s interesting to imagine what the world would be like if W had actually paid attention to Powell.
kjfdh
November 22nd, 2010
2:58 pm
you know the dems would vote for palin in a repub primary
jm
November 22nd, 2010
3:00 pm
jewcowboy 2:58 – true. Other than being burned by the intel thing, I haven’t seen what Powell thinks about the Iraq invasion ex-post-facto. I’d be curious to know….
HDB
November 22nd, 2010
3:01 pm
Adam November 22nd, 2010
2:51 pm
“HDB: I think that point is not as useful as say, the Democratic vs Republican vote. I think it’s pretty similar for the past few decades when you consider the votes demographically along party lines. The interests of minorities have been better served by Democrats, and the interests of corporations have been better served by the GOP. It’s mostly economics, not racism.”
Actually, Adam…it’s a bit of both…particularly since 1964!! Prior to then, the black vote primarily went to the GOP because of their being the “party of Lincoln” and the Democrats were the segregationists. When Goldwater’s conservatism merged with the Dixiecrats’ cpnversion to the GOP, the voting patterns changed! The “old Demrcrats” became Republicans….and the “liberal Republicans” became Democrats!! From that point forth, Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” along with Reagan’s support for segregation ensured the voting paradigm would consistently be tinged with racial animus…….
jm
November 22nd, 2010
3:02 pm
Toodooloo folks. I have to go subject myself to some government regulations. Annual emissions test.
williebkind
November 22nd, 2010
3:04 pm
Matti
November 22nd, 2010
1:34 pm
Women cant be too smart about their bodies. They cant figure out what is making them pregnant two, three, four, five, six…times
Solitude
November 22nd, 2010
3:04 pm
I am here to say a lot of us who are multiracial would prefer Palin as well, but why can’t we get a better candidate than those two?
It’s like saying you will quit banging on our feet with a crowbar if we let you jab us in the shoulder with an awl. Enough already.
And dump the two embalmed political parties. They’re decomposed already.
AmVet
November 22nd, 2010
3:05 pm
willie, lay off the Mormons, man…
HDB
November 22nd, 2010
3:06 pm
Arrivederci, all…..have to go pay homage to the IRS….
Joe
November 22nd, 2010
3:07 pm
Jewcowboy: Let’s start with healthcare. Health care in and of itself is a policy. Specifics could be forcing people to buy it or face fines imposed by the government. This is certainly a far left policy and gives the government more power over our everyday lives than ever before. When the government creates a law that forces you to do something it infringes on your livelihood. Of course someone who adores policies of government intrusion would look at this and say it is wonderful.
The automotive takeover: Taking over a private industry using tax payer dollars to prop it up is another easy example of a far left policy. It’s not the government’s job to waste tax money for the sole purpose of buying votes in support of unions. Anyone with a brain understands that this was a big payoff to keep those enormous pensions afloat for union members.
Cap & Trade: If you don’t believe this is not far left then you’re not worthy of an honest debate. This would force us all to pay more for energy whether it be heating your home or fueling you car for no apparent payoff. Unless forcing people to scrap up every dime just to be able to go to work would make a liberal feel good about themselves that is…
I could go on and on but arguing with a liberal is like arguing with a stop sign. It’s pointless….
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
3:07 pm
Nice Guy
I didn’t see that part in Jay’s column. I’ve seen 95% used most often by conservatives here when they want to point out Obama’s support in the Black community. Hell, Obama could have 100% support in the Black community and it wouldn’t get him elected. We make up 13%-16% of the population of the US. When you take into account the disproportionate amount of that population that has spent time in jail, you may be talking about less than 10% of eligible voters in the US. Obama could flip the Black population the middle finger and get elected. Previous presidents have done as such with no problem. Obama’s only 50% African, and that’s not of the African-American strain, so he only get’s a 50% discount on the “Hood Pass”.
WAR EAGLE’s post @ 2pm is proof that Auburn cares more about its athletics than it does it’s intellectual pursuits.
LMAO!!!!!
DawgDad
November 22nd, 2010
3:07 pm
2012 is a long way off. Whatever the polls say today is irrelevant.
If you believe what Bookman and the media have been spouting off the 26% of the Republican Party that DOESN’T like Palin must be the entire Party leadership! Nonsense! Jay or a poll saying independents don’t like Palin is just as much nonsense. This poll is NOT an election.
The Republicans might use Palin like the Democrats did Hillary; i.e., allow her to siphon off all the energy of the opposition and then slip in a charismatic newcomer to the scene. So many potential scenarios could play out, it’s just too soon for this nonsense.
stands for decibels
November 22nd, 2010
3:07 pm
you know the dems would vote for palin in a repub primary
I dunno. In the open primary states, there’d be pockets of crossover dems looking to start up trouble, but I doubt it would be enough to really make much of a difference.
Even when you had as prominent a guy as Rush openly soliciting Republicans to vote for Hillary, it really didn’t help her a whole lot, in ’08.
CrackerLand
November 22nd, 2010
3:08 pm
She better run. I need to vote for her so bad I can’t stand it.
williebkind
November 22nd, 2010
3:09 pm
“(and still not considered as constituents by Republicans now!!)??”
Ok HDB, points are taken but lying is offensive. I dont care if you are protecting a minority group.
williebkind
November 22nd, 2010
3:10 pm
AmVet: ditto
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
3:11 pm
91% of Blacks would vote for Obama and 1% for Palin. And they say racism isn’t alive and well these days. The only difference seems to be the ‘host’.
So, if Roy Barnes received 91% of the white vote in the Democratic primary, does that mean that Georgians are racist?
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
3:11 pm
jm,
“Annual emissions test.”
Is that part of the new health care law?
DICK
November 22nd, 2010
3:16 pm
PALIN THIS, PALIN THAT. GOD AM I TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT PALIN AND I AM A VOTING REPUBLICAN. IF SHE IS ALL THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO OFFER, WE REPUBLICANS DESERVE TO LOSE IN 2012.
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
3:16 pm
Getting caught up, but Steve, what in the hell does that list of people prove. For any ONE Black politician, history can show at least 3 White ones. That just means that we are more alike than different if anything.
killerj
November 22nd, 2010
3:20 pm
Your poll means nothing,how do you poll illegals? 26 BILLION DOLLARS TO MEXICO? and your pollsters say only 12 million mexicans live in this country,”excuse me” but that would mean they are all multi-millionaires? someone needs to find out where the money in this country is going because it sure as hell not to the “American public”. Go Tea Party.
cynthia who?
November 22nd, 2010
3:21 pm
To HDB. Nice try with the blacks vote for 100% white before Obama. Wrong. Whenever you have an available black candidate blacks will vote for that person. Obama received over 90% of the black vote over Hillary Clinton in the primaries. What about Jesse Jackson? In 1984 he received 77% of the black vote and then in 88 he received 92% of the vote and he’s an idiot. Face it your always going to vote black if there is a candidate. That’s why people like Rangel or John Lewis stay in office so long with no substance.
C'mon Man
November 22nd, 2010
3:25 pm
New poll says Ind voters would pick Obama over Palin 2012 by a healthy margin, 44-37 percent;
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
3:25 pm
Joe,
Let us take this piece by piece shall we?
Health care – or more specifically making it mandatory for everyone to buy a private insurance companies policy or face a fine….are you sure you want to say that forcing people to participate in capitalism is a left wing policy?
Auto bailouts – http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16740.html Bush was left wing…interesting concept…was Sen. Richard G. Lugar left wing as well when he helped write the legislation that bailed out Chrysler in 1979?
And finally Cap and Trade – you do realize that cap and trade is a market based approach to cutting pollution which, rather than providing penalties, provides economic incentives for cutting emissions? Essentially cap and trade is a capitalistic way of dealing with pollution rather than “command and control” regulation. I thought the “conservatives” were all for capitalism over regulation.
Goldie
November 22nd, 2010
3:27 pm
AMEN DICK @ 3:16pm.
idaslaptor
November 22nd, 2010
3:39 pm
Polls are just group-think propaganda.
mslider
November 22nd, 2010
3:39 pm
Trixie,
Well said – couldn’t agree with you more
Robert
November 22nd, 2010
3:40 pm
I hope the GOP nominates Sarah Palin and she selects Russ Limbaugh as her running mate and the home grown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” whose weapons of choice are hatred, fear and rage/mob mentality against minorities, women, gays & lesbians, Muslims and Jews. The whole world saw their hatred and rage on display during the 2010 midterm election. The whole world saw their lack of respect for President Obama by calling him names (Obozo, Barry, Obamacare, etc. ) and showing up at town hall meetings with loaded guns and wearing stuffed monkeys on their back. The whole world saw a new level of terrorism never before experienced by the American People when the “tea party” inspired many white Americans to vote for the entire republican ticket regardless of the canidates experience across this country. This “fear” tactic used by the “tea party” movement was designed to “take our country back” which was the battle cry used to recruit white Americans who felt disenfranchised due to the economy, lost of jobs and the election of President Obama. The whole world saw America take a giant step backwards regarding civil rights and human rights. Thank God for President Obama.
Goldie
November 22nd, 2010
3:43 pm
“Steve @ 2:40pm: you’re kidding, right? If intellect is any kind of factor, then explain to me the following:”
Strom Thurmond
Fred Thompson
Newt Gingrich
Michelle Bachman
Sharron Angle
Joe Barton
W.
Nathan Deal, Johnny Isakson and the newly elected State House
Joe Miller (see, I didn’t even include Sarah P., because that’s a given “dumb” vote!)
etc., etc., etc….
Got racism, do ya Steve???
Goldie
November 22nd, 2010
3:46 pm
“This “fear” tactic used by the “tea party” movement was designed to “take our country back” ”
Robert @ 3:40 — I second your emotion, and I would add that “take our country back” actually meant taking all of us back to 1864.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
3:46 pm
Goldie,
C’mon…get it right…it is Michele Bachmann…one ‘l’ and two “n”’s. And I love her! She provides hours of entertainment.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
3:47 pm
Goldie,
This is for you:
http://cdn.crooksandliars.com/files/uploads/2010/07/political-pictures-michele-bachmann-crazy1_43760.jpg
Fundad
November 22nd, 2010
3:52 pm
Its good to see the “Blame Bush” crowd is still alive and well on the left. Its amazing how he still gets blamed for everything. On another note, while I am no huge fan of Palin,would not vote for her in a primary, & am put off by her “golly shucks” euphamisms, I dont understand the vitriol she is recieving from the left. Let me point out that she has more experience and is more qualified than BHO @ running anything and she did a good job in Alaska. When she was guv, she pretty much broke up the good ole boy network in alaska, went after entrenched people in her own party, and renegotiated her states oil drilling & exploration policies with the big oil companies. She got balls thats for sure. Just saying.
Goldie
November 22nd, 2010
3:56 pm
uh-oh, jewcowboy @ 3:46 — I hate being spanked by the spelling police! And Bachmann may be entertaining, but don’t you agree that it took some “dumb” voters in MN to put her in Congress?
RB from Gwinnett
November 22nd, 2010
3:56 pm
The amazing statistic is there are still people supporting Obama. Are these people completely clueless or what?
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
3:57 pm
So, Blacks vote for the Black candidate? What happened to Monds? Blacks do tend to vote for Democrats who take that as a given…Here in the South and in a few urban Northern districts, the Black vote is significant. In a nationwide election, not so much so…the so-called White vote is still the determining factor…neither party can lay claim to that vote as a “bloc…”
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
3:58 pm
Goldie,
“I hate being spanked by the spelling police! ”
Kinky!
“don’t you agree that it took some “dumb” voters in MN to put her in Congress?”
Or just bored. Or permanently brain damaged…they do choose to live in MN, a place where a flat tire in the winter can be a death sentence.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:00 pm
josef nix,
Hiya! It’s been a while. I hope all is well.
Viper1
November 22nd, 2010
4:00 pm
Forget about healthcare: the statistical illiteracy of Americans is the real threat to National Security:
Here’s a guy who’s a pro:
Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute: Palin is leading the Republican field, “she is very unpopular among independents and although she recently said she thought she could defeat Obama, the data does not now necessarily support that assertion.” Palin is viewed unfavorably by 51 percent of voters overall and 54 percent of independents.”
But lets look inside the numbers: when ALL the demographics are added together, the president gets a thumbs up from 44% of indies and Palin 37%. That’s a difference of less than 1:10.
Sixteen months ago Obama had 56% of independents in his corner and Palin (atfer leaving office in Alaska)–well, actually only two months ago about 30-33%% of Palin as “arrogant” ,”inefficient” or “foolish”.
For those of you keeping score at home and I know you are, Obama has seen a 22% loss in the independent column while Palin has seen a 9% increase in support among independents: that’s a 31% swing in her favor.
The question begs asking “If Palin, while gaining traction with independents, has 37% looking at her favorably, and is considered “very unpopular among independents”, what words would you use to describe the president’s stature among independents who are abandoning him? Is he merely considered “quite unpopular” with the same group or “relatively only marginally less unpopular” since the difference in appeal is now only 1:10 favoring the president over Palin?
Be wary of these guys who tell you what the numbers mean.they’ll also tell you how long you can expect to live with cancer or your odds of having a heart attack because you dormed with a guy in college who smoked a pack a day.
It’s called “Probability Theory” for a reason.
Goldie
November 22nd, 2010
4:00 pm
“Let me point out that she has more experience and is more qualified than BHO @ running anything and she did a good job in Alaska.”
LOL, Fundad @ 3:52 — you’re making me spit Chardonnay all over my desk!
You may recall that Sarah QUIT her “good job in Alaska” after she spent a year on the public stage away from her own state, making a fool of herself for the world to see… how well do you think she’s liked in Alaska these days after doing that “good job”??? Bwaaaaaaaa!
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
Goldie,
“you’re making me spit Chardonnay all over my desk!”
I want to work with you!
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
So, Blacks vote for the Black candidate? What happened to Monds?
You know that one didn’t count. Monds isn’t really Black since he’s not a Democratic Party member who wants the 47% who don’t pay income tax to mooch off of Uncle Sam.
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
4:03 pm
The amazing statistic is there are still people supporting Obama. Are these people completely clueless or what?
Funny you say that, because I think the same thing about Palin supporters….
Pogo
November 22nd, 2010
4:04 pm
The Lib’s are on here shouting that polls are no good. I don’t know, they were pretty damned accurate 12 months out about the results of the recent November elections. I guess one has to use whatever salve (in this case it’s the old “polls are no good” thing) that soothes your ideological sore. I got a feeling the liberals need to stock up on “salve” for their wounds. 2012 won’t be pretty for them.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:05 pm
jewcowboy
Doing just fine, thank you! Thanksgiving break coming up…
Thank G-d for Minnesota…Al Franken and Michelle Bachman…makes Georgia look sane…
Fundad
November 22nd, 2010
4:06 pm
Jewcowboy while the government did bail out Chrysler in the late 70’s, early 80’s, it was a loan guarantee and not an entire takeover of the company. While Chrysler did pay off their loan early and with interest, the taxpayers should not have been put into that much risk. GM got itself into this pickle because its idiot managment negoiated inferior terms and benefits with the UAW over a long period of time coupled with the fact that they were much to top heavy in terms of their corporate structure and could’nt design and produce cars that people wanted. The govt should have let GM go to bankruptcy and work its problems out that way instead of screwing the bondholders & stockholders. Capitalism will work if they just let it.
See Forbes article:http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/09/general-motors-finance-bailout-opinions-columnists-warren-meyer.html
C'mon Man
November 22nd, 2010
4:07 pm
Fundad, Sarah is soo GREAT that she walked out on her GUV duties for cold cash, man.
Goldie
November 22nd, 2010
4:07 pm
jewcowboy @ 4:02 — 3 days before Thanksgiving and I’m practicing a little before the holiday arrives!
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:09 pm
josef nix,
“makes Georgia look sane…”
Well…I wouldn’t go so far as sane….
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:09 pm
SoCo…
Remember when the ole Fierce Advocate first came on the scene? He wasn’t “black enough” according to the pundits. So, he gets into office, shows us just how “white” he really is and now he’s “too black.” I’m so confused…
josef nix
November 22nd, 2010
4:11 pm
jewcowboy
“Well…I wouldn’t go so far as sane….”
Point taken…let me go with “mainstream!”
TaxPayer
November 22nd, 2010
4:13 pm
Given the people that the Repulicans are electing to public office, Sarah is a natural extension. She serves them right.
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:13 pm
Fundad,
“it was a loan guarantee and not an entire takeover of the company.”
“Mr. Hyde, a Wayne State University history professor, said many people forget that Chrysler was forced to come up with $2 billion in concessions from unions, white-collar employees, dealers, suppliers and banks as part of the deal. State and local governments connected to plants provided tax concessions, and Chrysler was required to adhere to tight government supervision after they received the loans. ”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/24/1979-chrysler-bailout-holds-lessons/
Seems it wasn’t quite so different.
“The govt should have let GM go to bankruptcy and work its problems out that way instead of screwing the bondholders & stockholders.”
And they still would have lost everything, except now in addition to investors losing their money, there would be more than 1M on unemployment:
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2010/11/17/gm-ipo-auto-bailout-saved-more-than-1-million-jobs-study-says/
jewcowboy
November 22nd, 2010
4:14 pm
josef nix,
“let me go with “mainstream!””
Southern Comfort
November 22nd, 2010
4:15 pm
josef
That’s the duopoly that is Obama.