Voters unhappy with Obama; white voters would take Palin over him

From the new Quinnipiac poll:

“President Barack Obama does not deserve a second term, American voters say 49 – 43 percent, and he is in a statistical dead heat with possible Republican challengers Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. President Obama leads Sarah Palin 48-40 percent….

In a mythical Republican primary Ms. Palin gets 19 percent, including 25 percent of GOP women, followed by Romney with 18 percent, Huckabee at 17 percent, Gingrich at 15 percent, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty at 6 percent and Daniels, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and Sen. John Thune of South Dakota at 2 percent each.”

Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, points out that although Palin is leading the Republican field, “she is very unpopular among independents and although she recently said she thought she could defeat Obama, the data does not now necessarily support that assertion.” Palin is viewed unfavorably by 51 percent of voters overall and 54 percent of independents.

The problem, however, is that 74 percent of Republicans view Palin favorably, the highest favorability of any GOP candidates tested. Only 17 percent of Republicans view her unfavorably, suggesting that the nomination may be within her reach even if the presidency is not.

The details of the poll are also revealing:

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Palin outpolls Obama among white voters by 47-41 percent. Among male voters, the two candidates would be tied 44-44. Among voters aged 35-54, Palin would lose by only 1 percentage point, and she would win by 2 percentage points among voters with incomes of more than $100,000.

Really.

622 comments Add your comment

Union

November 22nd, 2010
11:41 am

i dont think that skin color.. gender.. should be an issue in the election process, but it will always be i am sure. it would be kind of nice if you could keep your candidate sealed in a box with a generic speaker for all.. only to know whom youve elected after you open the box.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
11:43 am

The more I hear about Palin the more I appreciate Barbara Bush.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
11:44 am

“it would be kind of nice if you could keep your candidate sealed in a box”

With no air holes. The one that can go the longest without oxygen wins…oh wait…that’s what happens now.

Matti

November 22nd, 2010
11:44 am

A lot can happen in two years. For example, Obama might wake up to the fact that attempting to compromise with Congressional Republicans after the first six months of “NO EFFIN WAY, we want you to FAIL!!!! ” was just plain stupid. If he keeps up this BS corporate-enabling, traitor-appeasing centrist garbage, I won’t vote for him either.

stands for decibels

November 22nd, 2010
11:48 am

Were they running these “what if” polls when Ronnie Reagan’s approvals were heading toward the 30s, at this point in his first term?

If so, did anyone care?

jm

November 22nd, 2010
11:48 am

Polls this far out mean nothing…

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
11:49 am

jm,

“Polls this far out mean nothing…”

So true.

jm

November 22nd, 2010
11:51 am

Another completely bullsh-t Obama move.

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aMW13wr3hxm8&pos=9

Yes, there are abuses at “for profit” colleges. But there are lots of abuses at “non-profit” colleges also. SCAD being a prominent one among them. Default rates at a lot of non-profit colleges are as high or higher than for “for profit”. So what’s the difference? Well, in Obamaland, profit is bad.

If the rules were applied to both equally, I’d say fine. But not in Obamaland. Profit bad. Losses good.

Jesus he’s dumb. Anyone want to know how SCAD gets their money out of their “non-profit” school?

NPR Listener

November 22nd, 2010
11:52 am

I think this NYT column goes a long way toward explaining Palin’s popularity among white people: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/20/opinion/20blow.html. After all, she spent half of the 2008 presidential campaign telling white rural crowds that they represent “The Real America.”

stands for decibels

November 22nd, 2010
11:54 am

not in Obamaland. Profit bad. Losses good.

Jesus he’s dumb.

jm, are you still claiming to have voted for Obama?

if so, can you tell us who it was that held a gun to your head and forced you to do so, so that we can file a complaint with the FEC on your behalf?

Matti

November 22nd, 2010
11:56 am

NPR Listener,

Too bad Palin didn’t tell that to [the as yet uncaptured] Osama Bin Laden, who had his minions attack New York and Washington, using people who boarded a planes in cities, including Boston headed for LA. D’OH! His bad! He meant to attack “Real Americans” and wound up getting city folks instead. Dang.

jm

November 22nd, 2010
11:58 am

sfd – yes. I thought he was a pretty smart guy, and appeared more “calm / presidential” during the financial crisis. I bought the story as crafted by the media reporting on events at the time, because it seemed reasonable.

I got completely blind-sided by his utter ignorance of how the real world works. Whether its economics, actual politics, or foreign policy. He spent so much time in law school and academia, I should have realized it. But my fault. Lesson learned….

stands for decibels

November 22nd, 2010
11:58 am

she spent half of the 2008 presidential campaign telling white rural crowds that they represent “The Real America.”

and in her latest book she’s telling lies about how Trinity United Church of Christ preached hatred against white people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/sarah-palin-michelle-obama-book-america-by-heart_b_785784.html

JDW

November 22nd, 2010
11:58 am

While I agree that polls this far out mean nothing, the fact that 40% of the electorate would even consider voting for Sarah Palin in a presidential election simply serves to reinforce my belief that as a nation we have lost the ability to make a rational voting decision.

I mean really folks, if you thought Bush and/or Obama was a bad choice just try Sarah on for size. Some of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E

stands for decibels

November 22nd, 2010
11:59 am

But my fault. Lesson learned….

so the Gramps/BibleSpice ticket would’ve been an improvement. got it.

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:00 pm

Portugal Risk Rises After Irish Rescue on ‘Who’s Next?’ Concern

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aTNhcLQu_wmY&pos=3

Like I said the other day, after Ireland, Portugal. Next stop for the deficit vigilantes: Spain. After that, US.

Get it folks? Apparently not.

Kamchak

November 22nd, 2010
12:01 pm

if so, can you tell us who it was that held a gun to your head and forced you to do so…

ACORN.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:01 pm

stands for decibels,

“Gramps/BibleSpice ticket”

Oh my…that just made my day :)

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:02 pm

sfd 11:59 – probably not. But short of a Palin 2012 ticket, I’ll vote R. There are probably exceptions in addition to Palin, but not sure who they are. Huckabee would be one. All the rest seem ok…. so far.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:02 pm

JDW,

“fact that 40% of the electorate would even consider voting for Sarah Palin in a presidential election simply serves to reinforce my belief that as a nation we have lost the ability to make a rational voting decision. ”

Maybe they are just caught up in the Dancing with the Stars frenzy…

S Miller

November 22nd, 2010
12:03 pm

Deep Throat

November 22nd, 2010
12:04 pm

It will be interesting to see how many people will be stupid enough to vote for the Liar in Chief for a second term.

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:04 pm

The cost of insuring against losses on Portuguese government bonds climbed the most in almost two months as traders look past the bailout of Ireland to which country will be next to require assistance.

Credit-default swaps tied to Portuguese debt jumped 29.5 basis points to a one-week high of 447 basis points, the biggest increase since Sept. 27, according to data provider CMA. The contracts, which reached a record close of 478 basis points on Nov. 11, have widened about 148 basis points in the past month.

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Wheeeeeee. Can’t wait until this happens to us. Our only hope is that we’re too big to mess with. But we’re probably not. Gotta get some more money to Canada, as much as it annoys them.

Del

November 22nd, 2010
12:04 pm

“Mythical Republican primary” yep. It’s far too early to glean anything meaningful from an opinion poll.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:05 pm

jm,

You seem rather ADHD today with all of the random posts…

abby

November 22nd, 2010
12:05 pm

I would vote for a mongrel mutt over Palin any day. And, yes, I am a white voter.

carlosgvv

November 22nd, 2010
12:07 pm

I have said many times America has been consistently dumbing down since the 60’s. A majority favoring Sarah Palin over Obama is proof positive.
Our only hope, and it is a good one, is that the Tea Party Republicans show utter incompetence over the next two years and allow Obama to be easily re-elected.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:08 pm

I wonder if Palin know that if she ran for President she would have to talk to more than just Fox News…

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:09 pm

jewcowboy – :D multitasking….

too many important things going on to just sit around and debate Obama’s lack of business talent in his administration.

trixie

November 22nd, 2010
12:10 pm

How do you come up with such nonsense? What short memories the Rep public have. They’ve forgotten it was GW that got us in this mess in the first place. I would like to see the congress do what is best for the country once instead of looking out only for their respective parties. Who knows what Obama could do if we all could work toward his objectives. If the plan doesn’t work, amend it. We will never know what will work because no one is willing to try anything a little unorthodox. Shame on you.

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:12 pm

Democrats playing crass politics with Monetary Independence. So are Republicans. Wow, breaking news.

Frank Defends Bernanke, ‘Appalled’ By Republican Criticism
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By Steve Matthews and Margaret Brennan

Nov. 22 (Bloomberg) — Barney Frank, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said he’s “appalled” by Republicans who he said have sided with foreign central banks in criticizing Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke.

“I was appalled to see a group of Republican economists from the Bush and Reagan administration” arguing against the Fed’s asset-purchase program. “Republicans are joining the central bank of China in attacking Bernanke. This is really distressing to me.”

Frank, who spoke in an interview today on Bloomberg Television’s “In Business with Margaret Brennan,” called the Fed program to purchase $600 billion in assets through June “a very reasonable thing” that isn’t fueling inflation, as Republican critics contend.

A group of 23 people including former Republican government officials and economists published a letter to Bernanke urging him to halt the expansion of monetary stimulus because it risks an inflation surge. Separately, John Boehner, nominated to be the next House speaker, and three other Republicans leaders last week sent Bernanke a letter expressing “deep concerns” about a policy they said risked weakening the dollar and fueling asset bubbles.

“I wish we had some more fiscal stimulus,” Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, said. “In the absence of that, given unemployment, given the complete absence of inflation, he is doing a very reasonable thing.”

The Fed on Nov. 3 said it was expanding record stimulus to try to reduce 9.6 percent unemployment and keep the inflation rate from dropping further. China, Brazil, South Africa and Germany have said the injection of cash into the system may weaken the U.S. dollar.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:13 pm

jm,

I tend to go with the Urban Disctionary’s definition of multi-tasking:

Multitasking: A nice way to say that you’re doing many different things at the same time. And since no one can divide by zero, that means you’re doing many different things half-assed.

or –

Multitasking: A polite way of telling someone you haven’t heard a word they said.

Steve Hanes

November 22nd, 2010
12:13 pm

Imagine that! Whites would rather vote for inexperienced Alaskan Sarah Palin instead of an intelligent, educated black man? Obviously the intolerance, stupidity and racism of the American voter has been greatly underestimated. We should not really be surprised because these are the same people who believed in the tooth fairy WMDs and voted for Bush TWICE! If you thought Dubya’s ineptitude destroyed our economy and foreign policy quickly, just wait until Palin’s brand of anti-government, pro-business corruption takes control. It will not pay to be any color other than white! Which is what the conservatives want in the first place.

Del

November 22nd, 2010
12:13 pm

It looks like the rest of this afternoon and maybe the evening as well will be spent once again wallowing around in Sarah Palin derangement syndrome. Later…I’m out

Hillbilly Deluxe

November 22nd, 2010
12:13 pm

None of this matters, one way or the other. The election is 2 years away and may very well hinge on something that hasn’t even happened yet.

Eric

November 22nd, 2010
12:14 pm

I’d vote for her.

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:15 pm

jewcowboy 12:13 – whatever dude. There are too many liberal misconceptions bandied about this board to stick to one thing. Just trying to point out the facts that you guys seem to prefer to ignore.

Deep Throat

November 22nd, 2010
12:15 pm

Trixie are you stupid, Oblunder had 18 months with a Democrat controlled House and Senate, he did NOTHING to help the economy, he only pushed his own ideology that the majority of America has objected

TaxPayer

November 22nd, 2010
12:16 pm

It will be interesting to see how many people will be stupid enough to vote for the Liar in Chief for a second term.

Bush cannot run again so let it go.

Sharon

November 22nd, 2010
12:16 pm

I don’t believe this at all. There is no way Sarah Palin can even
come close to being as educated as President Obama. She is dumber than
dirt. I have only heard her speak once and she is a racial hate
mongering bitter woman. The is best left in Alaska. She is nothing
but a liar and attention Whore!

stands for decibels

November 22nd, 2010
12:16 pm

On the plus side, this ought to lay to rest forever the notion that white Americans are somehow intellectually superior to other races.

BOB

November 22nd, 2010
12:17 pm

The first ‘girly boy’ in the oval office. How does that feel now all you independents who voted for him?

Sharon

November 22nd, 2010
12:18 pm

If she does get in then America has really lost it’s mind.
I’m moving to another country, there is no way I would want
to live in America with this dumb bot.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:19 pm

stands for decibels,

“this ought to lay to rest forever the notion that white Americans are somehow intellectually superior to other races.”

You are on a roll today.

Sandi

November 22nd, 2010
12:19 pm

Not this voter!

Deep Throat

November 22nd, 2010
12:19 pm

Steve please explain inexperienced and intellegent educated back man. You’re a smart one.

Bye Bye Empire

November 22nd, 2010
12:19 pm

“The problem, however, is that 74 percent of Republicans view Palin favorably, the highest favorability of any GOP candidates tested. Only 17 percent of Republicans view her unfavorably, suggesting that the nomination may be within her reach even if the presidency is not.”

Now, the question is, what happens if – as to me, sounds entirely plausible at this point – you have an independent candidacy by someone like Michael Bloomberg, or even Donald Trump?

This thought ought to stop people in their tracks.

Anybody who thinks Palin can’t win hasn’t been paying attention to politics over the past decade.

TaxPayer

November 22nd, 2010
12:21 pm

If Sarah became president, one of the many laws she would pass would be one to make FOX the only public broadcast “news”. Fully funded by the taxpayer, naturally. And, of course, she would create a department of lies to keep a check on what people say about her. Finally, she would increase the number of cabinets posted in the white house in order to hold her massive collection of moose-hunting weaponry.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:22 pm

Coming in 2013:

“Nailin Palin II: The Oval Orifice”

Sharon

November 22nd, 2010
12:23 pm

Look America voted for Bush the second time the first time he cheated
and lied his way in. So Palin could get in. America is not the
America I grew up in. People don’t care who they put into the White
House. Last eight years nearly destroyed us and with Palin might
as well kiss all our as– goodbye.

Deep Throat

November 22nd, 2010
12:24 pm

Tax payer I am talking about your HOPE and CHANGE Idiot in Chief, but you knew this, you just did not want to admit you voted for such lunacy.

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:24 pm

ByeBye – If Palin wins the R nomination, Bloomberg may consider running. But he will split the vote and Obama will be the likely winner. Although it would be a nail biter….

Fred

November 22nd, 2010
12:25 pm

jm:

Do you work in higher education? I didn’t think so.

I am intimately familiar with both for and non profit “higher education.” Withholding funds from these for profit scammsters is not unreasonable.

The for profit “colleges” are completely out of control and in many instances committing out right fraud. This has nothing to do with “for profit” or “non-profit.” Scamsters found a new venue and some legal ways to bilk taxpayers out of money pure and simple. Are ALL “for profit” institutions slimy? heck no, but a large majority are.

You need a better example my friend to rail about the President on. trust me on this one……….

TaxPayer

November 22nd, 2010
12:25 pm

“this ought to lay to rest forever the notion that white Americans are somehow intellectually superior to other races.”

I heard talk that Sarah might be half eskimo and they’re not white. This could ruin her if it ever gets out to the Republicans and especially the Tea Partying ones.. That would make her related to Obama cause he’s half white too, dontcha know.

retired early

November 22nd, 2010
12:25 pm

Sarah Palin……..The rest of the civilized world will think American is Disneyland.
Please don’t embarrass us anymore. Bush was enough, I thought we were good for another 100 years.

Vinny

November 22nd, 2010
12:26 pm

““I was appalled to see a group of Republican economists from the Bush and Reagan administration” arguing against the Fed’s asset-purchase program. “Republicans are joining the central bank of China in attacking Bernanke. This is really distressing to me.”

Hey Bawney – The Bush and Reagan administration are no longer in existence. Why do you continue to live in the past?

You know whats distressing to me Bawney? It’s guys like you who think that all people are entitled to own a home, so you rig the system to the point that it destroys our economy while your boyfriend is on the Fanny/Freddie Mac payroll.

Jimmy62

November 22nd, 2010
12:28 pm

Palin isn’t going to win, most of the right won’t really vote for her. But it’s in the interests of the left to pump her up as much as possible so as to drive the haters to the polls and reelect your guy. It wouldn’t make sense for you to admit she’s got no chance of winning, because that won’t drive up enthusiasm in left-wing lockstep voters like a Palin candidacy would.

Vinny

November 22nd, 2010
12:28 pm

Good one Taxpayer – You’re a real hoot.

Union

November 22nd, 2010
12:28 pm

sometimes i feel like i am in the movie the wizard of oz.. all the liberal bloggers, etc. are the ones screaming dont look behind the curtain..

Bye Bye Empire

November 22nd, 2010
12:28 pm

jm:

Good point. A nail-biter indeed.

Fred

November 22nd, 2010
12:29 pm

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:00 pm

Like I said the other day, after Ireland, Portugal. Next stop for the deficit vigilantes: Spain. After that, US.

Get it folks? Apparently not.
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No. Idon’t get it. Ireland is the poster child for Boortz and the other talk show hosts because of their low or non existent taxation of corporation. A model they claim WE should follow……

You mean the right wing house of cards over their has fallen? What blew it down? A newborn babe?

TaxPayer

November 22nd, 2010
12:29 pm

Tax payer I am talking about your HOPE and CHANGE Idiot in Chief, but you knew this, you just did not want to admit you voted for such lunacy.

Actually I have admitted on more than one occassion that I did vote for Bush and it is a mistake that I will have to live with for the rest of our lives. I know I have apologized for my ignorance but I also know that my apology will never be enough. So, I have vowed to do what little I can to help recify my past mistake and trying to inform others of the evil that is Republican is one of those things that I feel I must do.

Normal

November 22nd, 2010
12:29 pm

Voters unhappy with Obama; white voters would take Palin over him
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Not this white voter…I’d vote for Mike Tyson before I’d vote for Sarah Palin.

Bye Bye Empire

November 22nd, 2010
12:29 pm

“Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies” – Nietzsche

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:29 pm

Fred 12:25 – sorry bubbo. I’ve read the research and seen the data. I’m not going to pull the data for you. Do it yourself.

I agree the for profit schools should be stopped from scams. So should the non-profits that are engaged in the same thing. But not during Obama. Non-profits skate off free while for profits get nailed. Stupid.

Sharon

November 22nd, 2010
12:30 pm

What is the Right’s Obsession with Stupidity??
That anyone in their right mind would even think
that this woman could run anything. She couldn’t
even run a state. Her husband and her wanted to take
Alaska out of the United States. She went to a witch doctor for
advice. America would be looked upon as a bunch of Nasty Dumb
Trashy people. They would judge us all by her.

Vinny

November 22nd, 2010
12:30 pm

The fact that the percentages are so close just highlights how weak and incompetent Obama is.

anne

November 22nd, 2010
12:30 pm

Just shows how much Republicans care about America to even consider Palin in any capacity. And it’s too bad that white voters can’t see past their bias in considering a candidate who is half black. I feel Obama has more character than our past 2 Presidents and definitely cares more about the overall good of the US.

Deep Throat

November 22nd, 2010
12:31 pm

Sharon, do you not recall all the racist remarks your precious Olunder has made, and talk about someone who can’t talk Oblamer has to have someone write and give him the words to say he is not smart enough to speak on his own. Maybe this will help get your brain awakened, the police acted stupidly.

Vinny

November 22nd, 2010
12:31 pm

Sharon,

I would rather be judged in comparison to Palin than that miserable, incompetent, worthless, terrorist appeasing “President” that we have in office not.

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:32 pm

Jay, dems should be nervous about this. If Palin can potentially outpoll Obama, then a real candidate could reasonably crush him. Not that I believe in polls this far out. Just pointing out the fact people are sick of Obama.

Matti

November 22nd, 2010
12:33 pm

Google launders money through Ireland to avoid US taxes. Boortz likes this idea because, doncha know, people who TRULY LOVE AMERICA want to de-fund it completely. :roll:

Matti

November 22nd, 2010
12:34 pm

Vinny,

You’re a hoot and a half!

Roger Dodger

November 22nd, 2010
12:34 pm

Hey Jay -

That’s real good – You can’t defend the incompetence of Obama, so you decide to stir the puddin using race-baiting. (Typical liberal tactic)

You must be taking lessons from Cynthia

MJ

November 22nd, 2010
12:34 pm

I would vote for Mickey Mouse before I would either one of them.

AmVet

November 22nd, 2010
12:35 pm

It will be interesting to see how many people will be stupid enough to vote for the Liar in Chief for a second term.

After 2004, ANYTHING is apparently possible…

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

November 22nd, 2010
12:35 pm

Here is the breakdown, no Democrat can run against Obama in the primary and be successful in the general election. It is simple, the negro vote is too imprtant for the Democrats and Obama is their man. If someone beats Obama in the primary the negroes won’t urn out in large numbers in the general election and that would seal doom for the Democrat. (Author’s note: I admire the negroes and consider them to be my absolute equal. In fact, I have a very close friends who are negroe women in Brasil.)

Now that said, we must consider the Bloomberg factor. If he runs, that opens the door for Governor Palin. If Bloomberg and and Hillary run Governor, Governor Palin is a shoe-in given her monolithic support within the GOP.

The interesting part is Governor Palin’s shrewd rehabilitation of her image through the books, reality show, and, yes, Bristol successful turn on DWTS. She may well be able to take Obama on head to head in two years, we’ll just have to wait and see.

Personally, I side with th negroes in that it would be unconscionable if the Democrats do not renominate President Obama, even though I believe Governor palin would be a more effective President. Then again, Ol’ Wyld Byll has always had an ample softside for the pretty girls.

TaxPayer

November 22nd, 2010
12:35 pm

Palin isn’t going to win, most of the right won’t really vote for her. But it’s in the interests of the left to pump her up as much as possible so as to drive the haters to the polls and reelect your guy. It wouldn’t make sense for you to admit she’s got no chance of winning, because that won’t drive up enthusiasm in left-wing lockstep voters like a Palin candidacy would.

I guess McCain didn’t get that memo when he picked her.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:36 pm

jm,

“Just pointing out the fact people are sick of Obama.”

I would say an equal number are quite sick of Ms. Palin as well.

Jack

November 22nd, 2010
12:36 pm

I don’t particularly think Palin would be the person we need in the White House, but if she’s the GOP candidate, I’ll vote for her. If she gets the nod, she’ll have a tough fight with Clinton, but she will prevail.

Vinny

November 22nd, 2010
12:36 pm

Matti – Just because Obama is an incompetent buffoon, don’t take it out on me.

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:36 pm

Fred 12:29 – like I said. You don’t get it.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:37 pm

“race-baiting.”

Evidently to those on the right, even the mere mention of the word “race” is race-baiting…

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:37 pm

jewcowboy 12:36 – quite true. I’m in the camp. That said, I think some people furious with Obama are happy to embrace the devil the don’t know instead of the one they do know.

Hopefully neither of them are sitting in the white house in 2012.

Deep Throat

November 22nd, 2010
12:38 pm

Amvet we know your liberals roots only bleed blue puke

Matti

November 22nd, 2010
12:40 pm

Vinny,

My apologies. I thought it was a compliment when you used it earlier.

Fred

November 22nd, 2010
12:41 pm

jm

November 22nd, 2010
12:29 pm

sorry bubbo. I’ve read the research and seen the data. I’m not going to pull the data for you. Do it yourself
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Me too. My families main income comes through Higher Education. We were involved in starting AIU here in Atlanta and got first hand experience of the scam it became.

How are the graduates of Le Cordon Bleu fairing after graduating 80-90,000 in debts? How are they making payments with their $10 an hour kitchen jobs? Those are just 2 examples on an endless list. The “traditional” (lol) non traditional institutes like phoenix and Devry are successful becasue they DON’T perpetuate fraud. They are exceptions though, not the rule.

But you “read research and data.” I’ll continue to live it and experience it first hand.

mm

November 22nd, 2010
12:41 pm

Deep Throat

“Trixie are you stupid, Oblunder had 18 months with a Democrat controlled House and Senate, he did NOTHING to help the economy, he only pushed his own ideology that the majority of America has objected”

Pull your head our of your @ss, man. After the stimulus passed, the GOP blocked every single bill attempting to help the eceonomy. They then sold this behavior to fools like you claiming the deficit was too high.

AmVet

November 22nd, 2010
12:42 pm

Deep, by we do you mean you AND your pet gerbil?

Or, as you apparently mean other people here, please at least have the courtesy to let me know them by name, so I can determine who exactly that it is that you speak for. And rather than inquire of them, I’ll come straight to you, OK?

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:42 pm

jm,

“That said, I think some people furious with Obama are happy to embrace the devil the don’t know instead of the one they do know.”

I’m reminded of a quote by Camus, “Stupidity has a knack of getting its way.”

Instead of going for one of the worst potential candidate b/c they have name recognition, why not go for the best possible candidate who may be less well known. The Republicans seem to think this is 2008 with the same lame candidates that the American public rejected.

They would be better served coming in with new blood.

Fred

November 22nd, 2010
12:44 pm

TaxPayer

November 22nd, 2010
12:29 pm

Actually I have admitted on more than one occassion that I did vote for Bush and it is a mistake that I will have to live with for the rest of our lives. I know I have apologized for my ignorance but I also know that my apology will never be enough.
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You too eh? I was scared of how bad John sKerry would be so I actually voted for Bush for re-election (voted for Harry Brown his first time), as ‘the lesser of two evils.” Like you, I learned my lesson which is why I couldn’t vote for either Barnes OR Deal. Voting for a scumbag is voting for a scumbag and I won’t go down THAT path ever again……….

Deep Throat

November 22nd, 2010
12:46 pm

mm tell me one piece of legislation that Obozo proposed that would have helped the economy that was blocked.

Deep Throat

November 22nd, 2010
12:47 pm

Amvet are you denying your liberal roots ?

AmVet

November 22nd, 2010
12:48 pm

Deep, are you denying voting for the worst ever twice?

Deep Throat

November 22nd, 2010
12:52 pm

Amvet first, let me say you are using worst president a little to quick, just look at the idiot in office now, and if your referring to Clinton ? The answer is no, I voted for Bush one and that other guy the second time.

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November 22nd, 2010
12:54 pm

On domestic issues, I’d vote for Palin over Huckabee.

Huckabee seems like a nice man, but DANG!!!! he’s a liberal when it comes to spending. He is, however, an advocate of the Fair Tax.

Decisions, decisions….there’s plenty of time between now and 2012.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:55 pm

Deep Throat,

“let me say you are using worst president a little to quick, just look at the idiot in office now, and if your referring to Clinton ”

Yeah, 115 straight months of economic prosperity sucks…better to destroy the economy then leave it for someone else to clean up.

jewcowboy

November 22nd, 2010
12:56 pm

@@,

“Decisions, decisions….there’s plenty of time between now and 2012.”

And unfortunately 23 months of campaigning between now and 2012.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 22nd, 2010
12:58 pm

If Obama decides not to run again.

Who would you vote for Sarah Palin or a box of rocks. Hmmmmm?

Tough decision

Gale

November 22nd, 2010
12:59 pm

If the choice was Palin or Obama, I would write in Clinton again.