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BuiltToLast
November 19th, 2010
1:51 pm
If Nathan Deal can become the Governor of Georgia; the Right will find away to make Sarah Palin the next Republican/Tea Party President of the United States.
Gandalph, the Fun
November 19th, 2010
1:58 pm
JOE BIDEN is a fool…
Fred
November 19th, 2010
1:59 pm
We builttolast said. I would have never believed a crook like Deal would have been nominated much less elected. Nothing would surprise me now…….
Joe the Plutocrat (the artist formerly known as paleo-neo-Carlinist)
November 19th, 2010
2:04 pm
BuiltToLast, the “Right” does not make Presidents, the plutocracy does. as I said a few days back, in the words of the immortal Bruce Sprinsteen (via Bo Diddley), if the plutocrats think she’s the one, then “….whaoooooooooo, she’s the one…”. personally, as I noted yesterday, she’s a staking horse, and her “value” to the right is as a fundraiser and tomato lobber. she’ll get “15 minutes” of convention fame, but she’s not POTUS material and everybody knows it (maybe even Sarah Palin).
Kamchak
November 19th, 2010
2:05 pm
Sarah “Cut and Run” Palin couldn’t withstand a primary much less a general election.
Joe the Plutocrat (the artist formerly known as paleo-neo-Carlinist)
November 19th, 2010
2:06 pm
STALKING horse (I almost typed Stalin)
Karl Marx
November 19th, 2010
2:08 pm
I wonder where Biden plagiarized that from. You know he just borrowed it, he didn’t actually write it.
Jefferson
November 19th, 2010
2:12 pm
You betcha !! Nothing like a gold digger.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 19th, 2010
2:18 pm
Amazing, Neil Kinnock says the same thing.
Bye Bye Empire
November 19th, 2010
2:20 pm
The Big Question that’s looming on the political horizon:
Is Grover Norquist right that REPUBLICANS can win a government shutdown this time around because unlike ‘95 they have an extremely powerful propaganda organ at its disposal in FOX News?
According to Norquist, the ‘95 shutdown was spun by a liberal media as a “Republican shutdown”. This time, he thinks, it will be different.
Scout
November 19th, 2010
2:20 pm
Well kiss my grits !
Granny Godzilla
November 19th, 2010
2:23 pm
It’s lucky Vice President Biden hadn’t
just taken a sip of hot coffee…
Union
November 19th, 2010
2:23 pm
just because palin has a better record at getting people elected than obama does.. well for that matter.. having obama try to help you run for office is like having your teams picture on the cover of sports illustrated.. i dont think she has a chance for president..
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
November 19th, 2010
2:27 pm
Well, its lucky that he didn’t say she was “clean and hygenic.” Not that I have anything against persons who are my equal that the VP has, in the past, infered were less than “clean and hygenic.”
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 19th, 2010
2:27 pm
I think she will run. During the primaries she will be the targeted one (cannon fodder). Like Quayle
While the dems waste money running against her.
Then Daniels to the rescue.
scrappy
November 19th, 2010
2:28 pm
Just following the old adage… When you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
Wish more people would live by this with respect for Palin, she simply isn’t worth even mentioning.
TaxPayer
November 19th, 2010
2:35 pm
Sounds like Biden went a lot easier on Sarah than her “Friends at FOX” did when they were off air.
Jackie
November 19th, 2010
2:43 pm
Run, Sarah, run!!!!
Bubba Bob
November 19th, 2010
2:43 pm
I won’t be voting for her but I’ll say this. I love it when people accuse me of being a bigamist when I discuss my dislike for Pelosi and then I get to ask them about Palin. Swings both ways baby!
carlosgvv
November 19th, 2010
2:44 pm
If anyone ever doubted the dumbing down of America, look no further than the possibility of Sarah Palin for president in 2012. Any candidate of her caliber running for this office many years ago would have been a next to impossible event. If any further proof of this dumbing down is needed, just look at the Tea Party lug nuts supporting her.
Gandalph, the Fun
November 19th, 2010
2:44 pm
VPOTUS IS A MAROON (AS A FUNNY BUNNY WOULD HAVE PUT IT!)
Gandalph, the Fun
November 19th, 2010
2:45 pm
As for Biden running for President…America isn’t that gullible, his only chance of being the President is for Barry to be impeached, which isn’t goin’ to happen.
Adam
November 19th, 2010
2:45 pm
Sarah Palin running would be like handing the election to Obama. I welcome it. Frankly, I encourage it. We know that in national elections, she can’t win. She dragged McCain down, she trails in current polls behind Obama in popularity (I know right!), and she is clearly not intelligent enough to handle the office.
Bosch
November 19th, 2010
2:45 pm
Hi Gandalph! Glad your back (snicker) — now…..shut up.
Gandalph, the Fun
November 19th, 2010
2:46 pm
Carlos, proof of the dumbing down is Barry and Joe! Never have two less qualifed canidates reached these two offices.
TaxPayer
November 19th, 2010
2:46 pm
Shame on all y’all — accusing Bubba of bigamy. Just shame! What would his wives say.
Adam
November 19th, 2010
2:47 pm
Never have two less qualifed canidates reached these two offices.
Bush Jr. and Cheney
’nuff said.
Gandalph, the Fun
November 19th, 2010
2:48 pm
Bosch, I will just shut up then!
Damn Skippy!
NOT
Bubba Bob
November 19th, 2010
2:48 pm
Being more conservative I don’t agree with a lot of Biden’s policies but I find him one of the more likable politicians out there. He CANNOT hide what he’s thinking and I like that. Wish more of there were like that.
He also seems to be a serious family man. I respect that.
Gandalph, the Fun
November 19th, 2010
2:48 pm
Bush and Cheney were extremely qualified, Adam! Are you kidding me?
Bubba Bob
November 19th, 2010
2:49 pm
Tax,
You got me! There I go showing off my government education again.
Adam
November 19th, 2010
2:49 pm
Bush and Cheney were extremely qualified, Adam! Are you kidding me?
Hahahahaahahahahaha
….
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I’m laughing too hard at this comment. Someone else take over, PLEASE!
Gandalph, the Fun
November 19th, 2010
2:51 pm
Bubba, Joe is a vacuous moron, he looks serious as he has never had a job or an original idea. My goodness man! He’s a borderline moron!
stands for decibels
November 19th, 2010
2:51 pm
Just following the old adage… When you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
Which is how Joe played it when he debated Sarah in 2008.
Wonder if she will receive that same bit of benefit in primary debates? I.e., will guys like Romney and Pawlenty and such treat her with a bit more care than they would their male rivals, just so’s not to appear especially nasty on TV?
md
November 19th, 2010
2:51 pm
Well, depends on who the other dancers are………..
Bubba Bob
November 19th, 2010
2:52 pm
Gandalph,
He may be all of that but he still seems like a likable person. I’ve got plenty of friends who are morons but I still like them.
Gandalph, the Fun
November 19th, 2010
2:53 pm
All about Joe above seems to equally apply to Adam…vacuous…never had a job…never had an original idea. Please don’t reply to me anymore, I only respond intelligent life forms
Gandalph, the Fun
November 19th, 2010
2:53 pm
Bubba, good point…thank you!
TaxPayer
November 19th, 2010
2:53 pm
Bush Jr. and Cheney were extremely qualified, that much is true. It’s the what that got us all screwed.
md
November 19th, 2010
2:54 pm
“Wonder if she will receive that same bit of benefit in primary debates? I.e., will guys like Romney and Pawlenty and such treat her with a bit more care than they would their male rivals, just so’s not to appear especially nasty on TV?”
Let’s hope not……………….
moonbat betty
November 19th, 2010
2:57 pm
Since Michelle is not going to allow Obama to run in ‘012:
Biden/Pelosi 2012.
The Face of the democratic party.
TaxPayer
November 19th, 2010
2:57 pm
Bubba Bob
November 19th, 2010
2:49 pm
Tax,
You got me! There I go showing off my government education again.
Dang it! I was hoping to get to defend you and your wives’ right to live life as consenting adults wish.
AmVet
November 19th, 2010
2:58 pm
Adam, I’ll help ya out!
George was MAYBE qualified to be the Commissioner of MLB.
All of his previous failures, notwithstanding.
Granted he would have made the current boob, Bud Selig, look magnificent in comparison. But all he could have done in that role was to further screw up the National Pastime.
At least Dover AFB would have had a lot less activity. (If you catch my drift, chickenhawks…)
The worst ever. By a million miles…
Jimmy62
November 19th, 2010
2:59 pm
Biden has said at least twice as many completely ignorant, moronic comments than Palin has. His intelligence is not a bit higher than hers, and probably a good bit lower. But he’s also got a D by his name, so few people seem to care. He said JOBS is a three letter word, he said FDR got on TV to talk about the stock market crash (before FDR was elected and any President had appeared on TV), and innumerable others.
Mr. Snarky
November 19th, 2010
2:59 pm
If there’s ever a time for her to run, this is it…she’s not going to get more famous. And just watch the independents skitter over to the Obama side if she’s the nominee. The only way she would win would be if there were a third party candidate…God help us if that comes to be.
stands for decibels
November 19th, 2010
2:59 pm
Being more conservative I don’t agree with a lot of Biden’s policies but I find him one of the more likable politicians out there. He CANNOT hide what he’s thinking and I like that.
I agree—he seems remarkably BS-free most of the time.
Funny, my criticism of Biden has, generally, been from the left. As a senator he backed some pretty crummy, anti-consumer legislation. But I warmed up to him when he was running for president last time around, myself; and I share your personal fondness for his overall demeanor.
And I think the world owes him a debt of gratitude for his classic wisecrack at Rudy Giuliani’s expense (that being how every sentence out of rudy’s mouth can be summarized as “a noun, a verb, and 9/11.”) in doing so, Biden made it OK to poke fun at those who attempt to make 9/11 the all-purpose conversation stopper.
TaxPayer
November 19th, 2010
3:00 pm
I’d like to hear more from Sarah about her conclusions regarding Michele Obama and how she got her wrong impressions about whites from listening to rants from racists all her life. Just for that alone, I would vote for her in the primary. Inquiring minds need to know how that gray matter between her ears got wired that way. Multiple drops. Wolf attacks. What…
Bosch
November 19th, 2010
3:03 pm
I took an on-line quiz once and although I am perfectly aware at the stupid of those things….Biden was my “who I should vote for based on what I believed”
I’ve always liked the fact that he just says what’s on his brain. I mean, we all have those dumb ass moments, no?
Bosch
November 19th, 2010
3:05 pm
Taxpayer,
” and how she got her wrong impressions about whites from listening to rants from racists all her life.”
It could be argued that Palin got the wrong impressions about almost everything from listening to dumb asses all her life? Maybe?
scrappy
November 19th, 2010
3:08 pm
Stands…
You bet she will… It would be political suicide to go on tv and appear to be rude to good looking woman.
moonbat betty
November 19th, 2010
3:08 pm
You ever choked on a pretzel?
AmVet
November 19th, 2010
3:10 pm
Interesting that the benchmark for clueless, in WAY over their head politicians is no longer George, but Sarah.
And the bottom line is that not only is she not on the same level as the VP, she’s not even in the same building…
moonbat betty
November 19th, 2010
3:11 pm
Sarah is punking the left.
Showing their true colors…
False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)
November 19th, 2010
3:11 pm
I’m no body language expert but when asked if she could beat President Obama, Sarah actually “flinched, looked down, and closed her eyes briefly” as she answered during the interview. She doesn’t even believe her own hype and is simply riding the gravy train for as long as she can stay in the public eye. Nonetheless, I would LOVE to see her run.
Palin/Bachmann 2012….pass the popcorn.
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
3:11 pm
Taxpayer, who got who screwed? Methinks you are confusing Obama with previous presidents. He is the epitome of budget busters. I bet he’s never even balanced a checkbook in his life.
He seems to believe that money grows on trees riight there in Washington DC. . That kind of money tree does not grow in Washington, . Just in Chicago..
pat
November 19th, 2010
3:12 pm
She has no chance…She’ll be defeated in the primaries.
Lord Help Us
November 19th, 2010
3:12 pm
two words…
death. panels.
She’s toast.
Granny Godzilla
November 19th, 2010
3:13 pm
MSNBC just suspended Joe Scarborough for 2 days for political donations…..
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:14 pm
Union
Yep, she sure can get people elected to office, but not in her home state. Seems like she’s got he Gore touch. :0
As long as Sarah is 35 years old and a US citizen, she is just as qualified as anyone else to run for POTUS.
Doggone/GA
November 19th, 2010
3:14 pm
“She has no chance…She’ll be defeated in the primaries.”
I said it yesterday, and I’ll say it again: IF she runs, it won’t be to win the nomination. It will be to syphon off enough supporters to make her a “king maker” by wheeling and dealing who she will “instruct” her supporters to actually vote for.
Del
November 19th, 2010
3:15 pm
I think she could at least beat Joe Biden.
Lord Help Us
November 19th, 2010
3:15 pm
Palin/Newt 2012
Newt would make a great first lady…
Bosch
November 19th, 2010
3:16 pm
SoCo,
And she better be showing us ALL that long form birth certificate.
Adam
November 19th, 2010
3:16 pm
All about Joe above seems to equally apply to Adam…vacuous…never had a job…never had an original idea. Please don’t reply to me anymore, I only respond intelligent life forms
You’re assuming a hell of a lot. You are not very intelligent if all you have are accusations and assumptions to spout. Vacuous… talk about pot calling the kettle black…
md
November 19th, 2010
3:17 pm
“But China’s clampdown on Liu’s relatives means the Nobel medal and diploma likely won’t be handed out for the first time since 1936, when Adolf Hitler prevented German pacifist Carl von Ossietzky from accepting the prize.”
Such a lovely country………………
Adam
November 19th, 2010
3:18 pm
AmVet: Thank you. But seriously, Bush and Cheney qualified? It’s still making me laugh!
Granny Godzilla
November 19th, 2010
3:19 pm
Bosch
make that 6 birth certificates…..
scrappy
November 19th, 2010
3:20 pm
Southern Comfort – there is a big difference between qualified and eligible!
Being eligible does not make one qualified.
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:20 pm
Bosch
It’s block #23 right?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 19th, 2010
3:20 pm
I love it when people accuse me of being a bigamist . . .
Dang, Bubba, some of us down here like to keep our Other Little Woman secret.
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:21 pm
scrappy
You have to be eligible to qualify. I said she’s qualified to run. That’s the honest truth. Whether I think she’s qualified to actually become POTUS is a different story.
Lord Help Us
November 19th, 2010
3:21 pm
Has the ‘First Dude’ ever denounced his membership in that Alaska independence party…sounds like a real ‘patriotic’ family…
Bosch
November 19th, 2010
3:21 pm
SoCo,
Yeap! That’s the one!
Hi Mrs. G!
Matti
November 19th, 2010
3:21 pm
Bosch,
Re, Mrs. Palin’s [alleged] birth certificate, I haven’t seen it, have you? Furthermore, when speaking about her childhood awhile back, she slipped and said too much. She said that they lived near the Canadian border, and that her mom would sometimes take the kids across the border to see the doctor. If getting the babies a shot for an ear infection is cheaper in Canada, I’m thinking so is childbirth. She might actually be a *gasp* CANADIAN posing as an American. We can’t let this happen!
eddy
November 19th, 2010
3:23 pm
Biden does his finest impression of Curley (The 3 Stooges). I wouldn’t trust Biden to tell the time of the day when he staring at his watch. Sarah might not be presidential material but Biden has confirmed, for certain, that he is not. What a doofus!!!!
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
3:23 pm
If Sarah Palin doesn’t have a chance at being president of the USA, please tell me why Bookman who is mouthpiece for Democrats, keeps using her as subject for his blogs???
And would someone tell AmVet that Bush is no longer president so he doesn’t have to spread hate propaganda anymore. Gets a little tiresome to hear from some twerp who couldn’t even be elected dogcatcher trying to insult a man electecd twice as President. .
Granny Godzilla
November 19th, 2010
3:23 pm
Hi B.
md
November 19th, 2010
3:24 pm
For those not aware, it is acceptable to post an opinion without including all the “noise”………..
Character isn’t just in cartoons………..
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:26 pm
If Sarah Palin doesn’t have a chance at being president of the USA, please tell me why Bookman who is mouthpiece for Democrats, keeps using her as subject for his blogs???
Maybe it’s because Palin keeps putting herself out there. If she wishes to be a public figure, I see no problem with Bookman opinionating on her. If it bothers you so much, why log on and respond to it?
Doggone/GA
November 19th, 2010
3:28 pm
“If it bothers you so much, why log on and respond to it?”
Think she’ll get mad enough to take a shotgun to her computer…like that guy did to his TV over Bristol on DWTS?
AmVet
November 19th, 2010
3:29 pm
Actually I think Sarah serves a very useful purpose. The same way that George did.
And we MOTs have a saying that describes it perfectly, Never Again.
For Deranged Dusty…
http://tinyurl.com/27mpt5
Bosch
November 19th, 2010
3:29 pm
Hey Dusty!
“Gets a little tiresome to hear from some twerp who couldn’t even be elected dogcatcher trying to insult a man electecd twice as President. .”
I know Obama hasn’t been elected twice yet, but could you please do your Dusty thing to those who continually mock Obama? Thanks!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 19th, 2010
3:29 pm
And would someone tell AmVet that Bush is no longer president so he doesn’t have to spread hate propaganda anymore. Gets a little tiresome to hear from some twerp who couldn’t even be elected dogcatcher trying to insult a man electecd twice as President. .
Testify, Sister Dusty! I wouldn’t vote for this AmVet if I was on Death Row and he was the only one that could pardon me.
Joey
November 19th, 2010
3:29 pm
Palin’s chances today are better that Biden’s chances 4 years ago, but he ran for the nomination anyway.
Joe the Plutocrat (the artist formerly known as paleo-neo-Carlinist)
November 19th, 2010
3:31 pm
Del, see my 2:04. it is not Palin’s job to beat Biden or Obama (as in, emerge from a contest victorious). it is her role to “beat” Obama and Biden (as in buffet, assault, drum). it’s not about winning/losing for people like Palin, it’s about the attention.
Bosch
November 19th, 2010
3:31 pm
“Maybe it’s because Palin keeps putting herself out there”
Again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again……
Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to never see her on my TV or computer again.
josef nix
November 19th, 2010
3:32 pm
G-d forbid she run and be elected. It would send the left into a dither from which it might never recover. However, the pooh-pooh and jokes making the rounds now sound an awful lot like what was being said at the wake for the GOP just a few weeks ago, and we see what happened. Best take the woman seriously and be ready to present something other than tacky comments to challenge her. Failure to do that cost the Democrats the House. There’s no need for them to repeat the same mistake.
BuiltToLast
November 19th, 2010
3:32 pm
I’ll say it again; If Nathan Deal can be the governor of Georgia, ANYTHING AND I MEAN ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
It’s just like Dancing With the Stars……..
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:32 pm
Think she’ll get mad enough to take a shotgun to her computer…like that guy did to his TV over Bristol on DWTS?
I’d pay good money to see that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkiM1AOfpec
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB7iz1HTh9U&feature=related
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:33 pm
Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to never see her on my TV or computer again.
And that’s why you’re my hero!! Amen Brother!!
md
November 19th, 2010
3:34 pm
My take on Jay and Sarah………..he actually helps her……….like feeding the trolls…………
People go away when they are ignored……………..
Adam
November 19th, 2010
3:35 pm
And would someone tell AmVet that Bush is no longer president so he doesn’t have to spread hate propaganda anymore.
Wait, so we can’t talk about people who used to be in office? Ok, no more talk of Clinton, Gore, Reagan, OR Bush.
If someone says “Obama is the worst president EVER” or something similar, and I can’t compare him to previous presidents in order to make an assessment as to whether or not this is correct, how fair is that?
Vinny
November 19th, 2010
3:36 pm
It’s all Obama’s fault
md
November 19th, 2010
3:36 pm
“Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to never see her on my TV or computer again.”
Both have off buttons……….your wish is at your disposal……..
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
3:37 pm
There’s a lot of people out there “in public”. Bookman puts Palin out
front because he knows you dedicated liberals will follow with the usual insults. And lo and behold, you have proved that point already.
Then you suggest I leave a blog than is not yours!! Even Bookman has not done that yet!! Your egos surpass your knowledge of debate.
stands for decibels
November 19th, 2010
3:37 pm
The only way she would win would be if there were a third party candidate…God help us if that comes to be.
Bloomberg’s probably going to give it the old college try as an independent.
Disgusted
November 19th, 2010
3:40 pm
It would send the left into a dither from which it might never recover. However, the pooh-pooh and jokes making the rounds now sound an awful lot like what was being said at the wake for the GOP just a few weeks ago, and we see what happened.
I’m old enough to remember all the quips making the rounds when a B-list former actor from California was making noises about a possible run for the presidency. The “Bedtime for Bonzo” jokes abounded. It wasn’t funny to those folks a couple of years later. I think it’s wise to take a Palin run seriously. The most recent election proved that there is an abundance of people who will vote for a candidate expressing extreme conservative values and that a candidate’s ignorance and even possible criminality is no bar to that.
TaxPayer
November 19th, 2010
3:40 pm
He seems to believe that money grows on trees riight there in Washington DC. .
Actually, only part of the money trees are in D.C. The rest are in Texas. Fort Worth, I believe. I think Bernanke just recently shook the money trees and gathered up another 600 or 700 billion. Isn’t it great.
AmVet
November 19th, 2010
3:41 pm
Adam, I have not the foggiest, but that poor old woman is absolutely tormented by my writings. This has gone on for years on end.
She has a sweet side, but her bitter old hag personae is much more dominant.
Vinny, now you’re playing the devil’s advocate! Well done.
My (canned?) response?
Nothing is Obama’s fault!
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
3:41 pm
No, ADAM. You can talk about Bush all you want but the truth is preferable to hate productions based on lies.. Therein lies the fault..
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:42 pm
“I” never suggested you “leave” the blog. What I said was if it bothers you so much why log on and respond. I usually surf Jay’s, CT’s, and Kyle’s. If it’s a topic I don’t like and/or don’t want to respond to, I just keep moving. It’s really simple, and it has nothing to do with ego. Ego starts to come into play when you go into a debate, knowing you’re not going to change anyone’s mind, and chastising them for upholding their own beliefs.
If I’m not mistaken, there were also things said about Joe, but I don’t see you defending him? So what gives?
Palin fan
November 19th, 2010
3:42 pm
Thank God she will be running and getting taking this country black from the socialists!!!!
She has the kind of common since intelligence that this country needs!
RUN SARAH RUN!!!
Lord Help Us
November 19th, 2010
3:42 pm
‘Bloomberg’s probably going to give it the old college try as an independent.’
He would get my vote and blow away Obama and any of the R candidates…
josef nix
November 19th, 2010
3:43 pm
SoCo
@ 3:32
second link
I don’t think I’d much care to engage her in a debate in the 2nd Amendment!
Del
November 19th, 2010
3:43 pm
“like that guy did to his TV over Bristol on DWTS?”
He must shoot from the left side.
Lord Help Us
November 19th, 2010
3:43 pm
‘common since intelligence ‘
Lord Help Us…
josef nix
November 19th, 2010
3:45 pm
“Thank God she will be running and getting taking this country black from the socialists!!!!”
Is it just me. or is there a Freudian slip showing?
AmVet
November 19th, 2010
3:45 pm
josef @3:43, you may be right.
It’s the other 26 that would likely give her fits!
Adam
November 19th, 2010
3:45 pm
Dusty: Well I try to stick to things that aren’t lies. I may not always have much more than an opinion to express but I swear at least 95% of my opinion of Bush has to do with facts. I didn’t like his policies, I thought he was a nice man but not qualified to be POTUS. Obama, who was a senator and has a long running political history, was far more qualified. This was my entire point. I try not to bring up Bush at all but when it comes to POTUS qualifications, he is an easy target as an example of someone who got in but was not qualified.
stands for decibels
November 19th, 2010
3:45 pm
You bet she will… It would be political suicide to go on tv and appear to be rude to good looking woman.
True that. However, what’s stopping a primary candidate who knows he doesn’t have much of a shot at winning the nomination, but sees trashing Sarah as a way to get in the news?
If you’re looking for some publicity, and want to be known as a renegade…
electrician
November 19th, 2010
3:45 pm
Josef@ 3:32…the voice of reason…dems have already forgotten that
Matti
November 19th, 2010
3:45 pm
Palin Fan made a Freudian slip.
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
3:45 pm
Oh my, now AmVet has reduced me to an old hag. Strange, I don’t hang out at the VA hospital like he does or any other hospital except to work. . But that’s OK. He was in the military about sixty or seventy years ago. Needs all the help he can get.
md
November 19th, 2010
3:45 pm
“She has a sweet side, but her bitter old hag personae is much more dominant.”
Best be careful Am, but me thinks several here look at you the same way………….
Matti
November 19th, 2010
3:46 pm
Oops, jo nix saw it first.
@@
November 19th, 2010
3:46 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I like Joe, but Joe doesn’t think.
Are his plugs thinning?
jay’s columns certainly are.
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:47 pm
josef
I wouldn’t engage grandma at all!!!
TaxPayer
November 19th, 2010
3:47 pm
Has Dusty every chided another blogger for posting something false or hateful or mean, etc., about Obama. I cannot recall. Perhaps Dusty could provide a link.
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:49 pm
TaxPayer
November 19th, 2010
3:47 pm
md
November 19th, 2010
3:50 pm
‘Bloomberg’s probably going to give it the old college try as an independent.’
“He would get my vote and blow away Obama and any of the R candidates…”
I’d hazard a guess that he would split the vote on the right and boost the left…..
md
November 19th, 2010
3:51 pm
“I may not always have much more than an opinion to express but I swear at least 95% of my opinion of Bush has to do with facts. I didn’t like his policies, I thought he was a nice man but not qualified to be POTUS.”
Well there you go…………now you know how the other 50% of the country feels………..
There are 2 sides to every story………..
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
3:52 pm
ADAM.
I know I am wasting my time BUT…BUSH had an advanced education including an MBA,. He served as governor of Texas, one of our largest states. He was in the National Guard as a pilot. And you think he was not qualified? What more do you want? That he should be a community organizer??
Palin fan
November 19th, 2010
3:52 pm
Actually Matti, that was a Jungian sip.
AmVet
November 19th, 2010
3:53 pm
Dusters, I can see that you would mistake me as one of the Greatest Generation! But alas, as almost always you’d be wrong.
Now scurry along and insult somebody else personally for no good reason.It’s what you do best…
josef nix
November 19th, 2010
3:54 pm
SoCo
I think taking the handicapped parking space would be ill advised be she about!
@@
November 19th, 2010
3:55 pm
Too funny!
Don’t touch my junk, you airport security goon — my package belongs to no one but me, and do you really think I’m a Nigerian nut job preparing for my 72-virgin orgy by blowing my johnson to kingdom come?–Charles Krauthammer
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
3:55 pm
josef
Not to mention, I don’t think anyone going to put their hands on her Medicare!!
Del
November 19th, 2010
3:59 pm
I don’t believe Bloomberg could win a national election or for that matter come close. I think he could siphon off at least as many Democratic votes as he might from Republicans should disenchantment with Obama among moderate Dem’s continue.
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
3:59 pm
SoCo,
I like Joe Biden. He seems honest. I thought the way he dodged insulting Palin in the subject video was rather charming. He said nothing ugly or untruthful. Just let people think what he MIGHT have thought. Good idea. No insults. Just pleasant suggestions.
Joe the Plutocrat (the artist formerly known as paleo-neo-Carlinist)
November 19th, 2010
3:59 pm
Dusty, Bush was “qualified” because his last name is BUSH. he was “vetted” by the plutocracy and tabbed to be POTUS. John Kerry is a Yale grad, decorated combat vet, effective, respected Senator, and very good at marrying wealthy women. Bush married a teacher – advantage, Kerry!
jm
November 19th, 2010
4:01 pm
Dusty – I agree. Pretty funny.
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
4:03 pm
Thank you AMVET but I will “scurry along” when I feel like it. When you get a blog, I promise never to even look at it. Agreed?
PS,, You truly are not THE GREATEST GENERATION? They really do wonders down at the VA hospital, I tell you.. You haven’t aged a bit.
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
4:05 pm
Is anyone who has had a porn named after them really considered electable?
DannyX
November 19th, 2010
4:05 pm
Congrats Sarah Palin!
Top 10 …Current Reality Stars…
10 Heidi
9 Sarah’s House Husband
8 Ru Paul
7 The Situation
6 Kate
5 Spencer
4 Kim
3 Bristol
2 Snookie
1 Sarah
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
4:06 pm
Dusty
I concur with your statement on Joe. I think he handled that situation well.
@@
I read that op-ed piece this morning. I didn’t see it quite as funny as you did. It was more of an insult to the people who do that job. In case you don’t remember, right after that Dec 25th incident, people wanted to drag DHS thru the mud over “security failures”. Now it’s supposed to be some kind of joke? Those people on that flight might not have a clue as to how close they came to meeting their maker that day.
DHS was castigated long and hard, and I even remember a former blogger here trying to poke fun at me about that situation by saying that TSA didn’t do their job. In all actuality, TSA had nothing to do with that guy’s screening, but they still got tarred and feathered anyway. I’d like to see Krauthammer, or anyone else who has a problem with TSA, perform that job for a few weeks and see how they really feel about it.
jm
November 19th, 2010
4:07 pm
Has anyone determined Sarah’s IQ? I mean, we don’t need 200. But somewhere North of 50 should be a pre-requisite.
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
4:08 pm
DannyX @ 4.05,
That is funny
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
4:11 pm
Southern Comfort,
“I’d like to see Krauthammer, or anyone else who has a problem with TSA, perform that job for a few weeks and see how they really feel about it.”
How about the Director of DHS do her job and not have TSA do ridiculous window dressing security screening processes that do nothing to increase security?
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
4:13 pm
Joe O’Paleo,
Kerry had the same chance as Bush to become president but the country did not want him. That’s a big difference. Bush pulled us out of the dire catastrophe of 9/11 like a true president.
If you want my qulifications for president, here they are:: As strong as Churchill. As forceful as Truman. As honest and patriotic as Bush. That combination would give us another George Washington.
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
4:14 pm
<.iHow about the Director of DHS do her job and not have TSA do ridiculous window dressing security screening processes that do nothing to increase security?
Sometimes, when things don’t appear to make sense to the public, there’s a rhyme and reason to it. I don’t agree with everything that TSA does. If I were the head of TSA, I’d probably be burned in effigy for what “I” think really needs to be done.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 19th, 2010
4:18 pm
I don’t agree with everything that TSA does. If I were the head of TSA, I’d probably be burned in effigy for what “I” think really needs to be done.
Well, like I always say, strip them and make them fly buck-nekkid. Think about it for awhile. It’ll grow on you. And it’ll save somebody needing to put their hands on Sister Dusty before boarding.
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
4:22 pm
Redneck
Oh Hell Naw!!! I could not go to work knowing I would have to see folks buck-nekkid. If you saw many of the people coming thru the airport, you’d understand. If we had to do that, you would have to park your truck at the airport at the end of our shift everyday.
Dusty
November 19th, 2010
4:24 pm
Thank you, RedNeck. But everybody does not look like your wife. I don’t either. Let us count our blessings!!
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
4:31 pm
Southern Comfort
All someone would have to do is hide something in their bum to defeat a pat down. So all of this is window dressing unless raw is going to start doing anal cavity searches om everyone. You up for that?
Jay
November 19th, 2010
4:31 pm
That’s a great point, SoCo. Passengers are complaining about what the TSA folks are putting them through, but nobody’s pointed out the horror that passengers are inflicting on TSA.
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
4:36 pm
Jay,
Then perhaps they should consider another line of work. All jobs have up sides and down sides.
jm
November 19th, 2010
4:50 pm
Wow. Well dems clearly got the message.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45362.html
Or apparently not. Let’s see. We can’t afford $700 Billion in “tax cuts”, but we can afford $4 Trillion in tax cuts. Huh? Frickin Pelosi….
Obama better wake up. He has to deal with Boehner, not Pelosi…
jm
November 19th, 2010
4:54 pm
Is Pelosi this daft? The Dems are completely disorganized. Obama is not leading them and the he’s the POTUS, in title only. I know Congress holds a lot of power, but Obama is just putzing around. This is ridiculous. The biggest economic uncertainty around, and they’re still playing footsie over the issue instead of fixing it.
Un-frickin-believable. Thank heavens for Thanksgiving turkey and football. Can’t wait to wake up in January with the beginnings of some more intelligent business management starting to make some inroads.
jm
November 19th, 2010
4:55 pm
“Senate Democrats agreed that they, too, want to vote first on a middle-class only bill, even though it is unlikely to pass. Democrats are hoping to force Republicans to go on record voting against the bill, which is at odds with the GOP position that the tax cuts should continue for all Americans.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45362.html#ixzz15lepqM5b
Just frickin vote on a bill that will pass so everyone can know what’s going to happen with their taxes next year. This is why people fired the Dems and will do so again in 2012, unless 2 years is too long term a memory for voters…
jm
November 19th, 2010
5:00 pm
This is why Steny should be Minority Leader. Not Pelosi.
House Majority Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) was one of the few to make a concrete offer of direct action, telling the gathering he’d push for an up-or-down vote on only extending the middle class tax cuts, a move favored by party liberals – who want Obama to make a stand on the issue.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45362.html#ixzz15lfSiHSB
And what is this?
Obama, sitting in a chair in front of his desk, facing the legislative leaders arrayed on couches in front of him, opened by emphasizing the need for Democrats to act quickly in the lame duck on a wide array of unresolved issues — the tax cuts, the START treaty, and especially the stalled nomination of Office of Management and Budget Director appointee Jack Lew.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45362.html#ixzz15lfd5HIO
Obama is using his power and ability with the strength of a shrew. The guy is a wimp. I’m sorry. He’s a wimp.
Here’s what I would’ve said. Pelosi, I need the tax issue (and others) fixed. Now. In the next 3 days. If not, I’m going to make life very unpleasant for politicians’ life in CA. Here’s my proposal. Vote on it. If it loses, fine. Put it to a vote. If it loses, propose something else that will pass. Otherwise, no high speed rail in CA, no this that and everything else people in San Fran want. Got it?
When did Obama get neutered?
False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)
November 19th, 2010
5:00 pm
“As honest and patriotic as Bush.”
Please, put down the pipe.
@@
November 19th, 2010
5:03 pm
SoCo:
@@
I read that op-ed piece this morning. I didn’t see it quite as funny as you did. It was more of an insult to the people who do that job.
Nothing personal, but you’re a bit too sensitive.
As I’ve said before, I’ve got no problem with pat downs or body scans. Profiling would be less of an inconvenience for the vast majority of passengers, but we know how the left wingers feel about that.
Can’t make everyone happy.
I can appreciate humor even when it’s directed at me. You weren’t around years ago…I wouldn’t begin to tell you the insults my students endured from left-wingers. They basically said the kids would never contribute anything positive to society.
That pithed me off.
My job? Nothing more than wiping snotty noses, dirty butts and teaching kids how to tie their shoes and eat without drooling, according to left-wingers.
I took no offense at THOSE comments. The work is hard, the rewards are immeasurable.
jm
November 19th, 2010
5:03 pm
quit playing games. this is the economy we’re talking about. Reid and Pelosi don’t get it. Never will until Obama loses. He will be at fault for his own fate. But Reid and Pelosi will have done him no favors.
“We want an opportunity … to vote once, twice, whatever it takes to show the American people we support the middle class,” Reid said.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45362.html#ixzz15lgvrJAL
jm
November 19th, 2010
5:04 pm
Not to mention, there’s still not a damn budget passed other than continuing resolutions. Wheeeeeeeeee. Monopoly money!
SockPuppy
November 19th, 2010
5:07 pm
Adam@2:47 pm
Never have two less qualifed canidates reached these two offices.
Bush Jr. and Cheney
’nuff said.
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And you couldn’t even see Cheney’s hand up his arse or his lips move
Bush the Elder and Dan Quayle were special
jm
November 19th, 2010
5:08 pm
Spend spend spend liberals are in for a rude awakening. The debt ceiling is the red hot poker to get the spending cut ass moving.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45422.html
md
November 19th, 2010
5:08 pm
“Sometimes, when things don’t appear to make sense to the public, there’s a rhyme and reason to it.”
You talking about the same gov’t we all know??
They usually appear to make no sense because they don’t make sense…………..
jm
November 19th, 2010
5:08 pm
“I can’t wait for the bloodbath in April,” Simpson said, relishing the prospect of political turmoil. “When debt limit time comes, they’re going to look around and say, ‘What in the hell do we do now? We’ve got guys who will not approve the debt limit extension unless we give ‘em a piece of meat, real meat” in the form of spending cuts.
“And boy, the bloodbath will be extraordinary,” he said.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45422.html#ixzz15liRGX42
jm
November 19th, 2010
5:11 pm
hoooooooooooheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Just read this. Carville and I agree. Love the guy.
After James Carville said Thursday that “If Hillary gave up one of her balls and gave it to Obama, he’d have two,” the Democratic strategist is sticking by the harsh assessment.
http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1011/carville_stands_by_obama_comment_.html
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
5:18 pm
Jay
Been there, and had the nightmares to prove it.
jcb
There’s been one attempt at detonating a bomb like that already. It would take too much explosives for someone to get thru without being detected to achieve that. They guy that tried it had, I think, a pound of explosives. When he detonated, he was the only one killed. I think there were some injured. His body absorbed most of the blast, and the rest of the blast was directed away from the intended target.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/28/eveningnews/main5347847.shtml
As I’ve explained to others, TSA didn’t start doing rectal probes after that incident. There’s more to the screening process other than body scanners, metal detectors, and x-ray machines. I would love nothing more than to explain exactly how things work and what I think could be improved. However, for obvious reasons, I can’t go into detail on any processes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahidka
And, you also have to watch the women as well…
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
5:21 pm
They usually appear to make no sense because they don’t make sense
To the untrained eye. Some things might be overkill or unnecessary, but then again, seemingly unconnected incidents can be linked by the smallest of details. It’s just a matter of gleaning the information needed.
BADA BING
November 19th, 2010
5:28 pm
Let airlines make the choice to profile or body search. Conservatives will fly with any airline that profiles. The libs can get strip searched. Your choice, PC or non PC.
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
5:33 pm
@@
I may be too sensitive, but that’s because it’s my job to protect you and everyone else. I get to be sensitive about security issues. I wouldn’t be good at my job if I were non-chalant about it. It’s just like the way you feel about the children you work with.
The whole blowup over scanners and pat-downs is completely unnecessary. I’d estimate maybe 1 in 20 passengers going thru the main checkpoint in Hartsfield would be subjected to the body scanner. I could be off, but you’re talking about a checkpoint that has, on average, thousands and thousands of people coming thru and a handful of those machines. The media is doing nothing more than fanning the flames of hysteria. I’m sure if you actually talked to screeners, they’d let you know that they don’t want to touch anyone if they don’t have to.
CommonSenseisn'tveryCommon
November 19th, 2010
5:37 pm
jm@5:11 pm
hoooooooooooheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Just read this. Carville and I agree. Love the guy.
After James Carville said Thursday that “If Hillary gave up one of her balls and gave it to Obama, he’d have two,” the Democratic strategist is sticking by the harsh assessment
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I ain’t asking how he knows about Hillary
But ya gotta love that guy
Adam
November 19th, 2010
6:13 pm
Dusty: Of your earlier comment re: MBA and National Guard. Fair point. I did find these to be actual truths about Bush that I was not aware of. So I retract the not qualified part. I still believe, however, that Obama and Biden are NOT the least qualified to ever be in office.
Bush spent all his time and energy on pro-business leanings, as well as a business MBA, and still came out believing tax cuts for the wealthy stimulates job growth. Seems he didn’t really learn economics very well. Qualification goes beyond an earned degree and military service.
In addition, an MBA is every bit as much a claim to success as a law degree. Based on that, I’m finding very little credibility to the idea that Obama is the least qualified president of all time.
All that said, please note that I agree on the fair point.
@@
November 19th, 2010
6:16 pm
SoCo:
Believe it or not, you’ve got some conservative pundits who are on your side. It’s a mixed bag of conservatives….some opting for profiling….others saying it’s much ado about nothing. Those opposed are the same ones who were opposed to wiretapping.
Alabama Communist
November 19th, 2010
7:09 pm
Joe also said off the record that 1/2 Governor Sara Palin could be President If the following things happen!……
1. Jesus comes back as a kick butt Republican and marrys Palin, than makes her President, after He becomes King of the Planet as a Republican Paradise..
2. The Chinese and Russians nuke each other over who has tuft rights to the USA after it’s failing as a State and 1/2 Governor Sara Palin is the only citizen left in a Bunker who votes for herself as President
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
7:09 pm
Southern Comfort,
This thread is probably dead, but anyway:
“Some things might be overkill or unnecessary, but then again, seemingly unconnected incidents can be linked by the smallest of details. ”
Like doing full body scans and/or pat downs on the pilots who fly the planes? Oh wait…all of sudden that is now not necessary. Yesterday it was vital and today it is not…what happened? Did all of sudden the threat change or a new technology come into existence?
Of course not, pressure by pilots and airlines saying this was a waste and ineffective over ruled a silly and useless directive. What happens when the pressure to end it for passengers becomes to much? TSA will back off as well.
If these procedures are so effective why doesn’t Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion International Airport have even one full body scanner?
http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/Full+body+scanners+waste+money+Israeli+expert+says/2941610/story.html
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
7:14 pm
Southern Comfort,
“I’d estimate maybe 1 in 20 passengers going thru the main checkpoint in Hartsfield would be subjected to the body scanner.”
And they are random people, who are now subjected to the most intimate of searches that even law enforcement cannot do without suspicion of carrying a weapon. Not based on the threat level they may pose, but simply b/c they bought a plane ticket.
Sid Farcas
November 19th, 2010
7:37 pm
Let me get this straight Book Man, now you are turning to Biden for quotes? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH…….HEY, HERE’S AN IDEA, NEXT TIME GET MAXINE WATERS THOUGHTS ON AN ISSUE..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! you are sooo pathetic.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
November 19th, 2010
7:46 pm
Jeeze, what did you think Biden would say. Jay, can you not find a REAL news story to discuss?
How about Black farmers, Indians could get $4.6B – Like the senate is really trying to stop spending.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 19th, 2010
8:03 pm
carlosgvv: If anyone ever doubted the dumbing down of America, look no further than the possibility of Sarah Palin for president in 2012.
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Yes, apparently it takes a real genius to spend $800 billion turning 7% unemployment into 10% unemployment.
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
8:17 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout,
“Yes, apparently it takes a real genius to spend $800 billion turning 7% unemployment into 10% unemployment.”
Which is better…to have 150k jobs a month gained under Obama, or rather the 700k jobs a month lost under Bush?
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 19th, 2010
8:22 pm
“Gaining” 150k jobs a month means nothing if you’re destroying 150k jobs in the same month.
I’ll take our President Bush’s 5-6% unemployment over the Idiot Messiah’s 10%.
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
8:28 pm
“I’ll take our President Bush’s 5-6% unemployment over the Idiot Messiah’s 10%.”
I bet those 700k people a month that lost their jobs during Bush’s term would rather have a shot at the 150k job openings each month under Obama…
http://politicalirony.com/2010/02/06/jobs-lost-bush-v-obama/
And before you dismiss it…yes it was prepared by Pelosi’s office…but based on actual numbers by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 19th, 2010
8:34 pm
Too bad the Idiot Messiah is creating all these jobs you keep talking about but can’t get his unemployment rate down below 9.6%. Very strange indeed.
What’s worse, 10% unemployment or 6% unemployment?
jewcowboy
November 19th, 2010
8:55 pm
“What’s worse, 10% unemployment or 6% unemployment?”
Gee…I would say losing 700k jobs a month in worse than creating 150k jobs a month, regardless of the percentage.
CommonSenseisn'tveryCommon
November 19th, 2010
10:02 pm
Underemployment isn’t unemployed, but if you only made half of what you did before it SUCKS
Southern Comfort
November 19th, 2010
11:05 pm
jcb
My take on the pilots is to screen them like everyone else. I think they’re trying to come up with some kind of verification system to authenticate their employment. Many people don’t remember the pilot who attacked his co-workers with a spear gun and ax in the cockpit. I think it was a FedEx crew or something like that.
If I were the one making the decisions, there would be a lot of people mad at me, because I’d screen everybody. The Ft. Hood incident, along with catching blond-haired and blue eyed terror suspects should let everyone know that profiling would be a moot point. AQ is trying to recruit Westerners for the fact that they would not be profiled. You have to remember, metal detectors only detect metal and not liquids or powders. If I could show you all pictures of some of the things I see, you’d understand the need for various searches.
Geraldo
November 20th, 2010
1:12 am
@ “moonbat betty” If thats the face of the Democratic party I’d hate to see the ass.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
6:02 am
jewcowboy: Gee…I would say losing 700k jobs a month in worse than creating 150k jobs a month.
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Of course you would, since you’re on the losing end of this argument.
Even the publicly educated should understand that 10% is more than 6%.
Adam
November 20th, 2010
10:04 am
Lil’ Barry Bailout: Yeah, more people are on UI, since the benefits were extended. Notice, first of all, that it’s not 10% but 9.6% and that it has stayed steady for quite some time, as opposed to going up for two years before it leveled out. And yes, negative -700k jobs is worse than +150K jobs. So no, he’s not on the losing end of the argument. If all you do, Lil’ Barry, is look at only one figure that doesn’t indicate what you’re actually trying to prove, you will ALWAYS be on the losing end of an argument. It might be better for you to avoid scientific arguments entirely since you don’t seem to get that.
Jay
November 20th, 2010
10:33 am
L’il Barry tries to win arguments by pretending to be stupid, which is a rather unique strategy.
Kevin
November 20th, 2010
10:37 am
Palin has narcissistic personality disorder. Google it, look at the symptom list, and you will see what I mean. As an independent, I voted against the GOP because she was on the ticket. I held my nose and voted for Obama, and I usually vote for GOP. Will do the same if she is on the ticket again. I hope the GOP gives me a hard choice to make in 2012. They did not in 2008. Us independents tend to look at candidates closely. Nothing has changed with palin she is hopelessly in over her head.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
11:01 am
We can’t all be as smart as you, Jay. It takes a lot of mental horsepower to defend 10% unemployment for going on two years.
Jay
November 20th, 2010
11:05 am
No, l’il Barry, all it takes is an honest glance at one little chart:
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/10/19/if-you-want-to-blame-obama-for-job-loss-take-a-look/
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
11:07 am
Adam, I’m just looking at the percentage of folks who don’t have jobs. Under the Idiot Messiah, that number has been near 10% for an excruciatingly long time. Under our President Bush it was much lower. You can keep citing the job creation number all you like, but for all your flailing, the unemployment rate stays the same. I guess the problem with your job-creation arm-waving is that you’re only looking at the jobs created, and ignoring the jobs destroyed.
Idiot Messiah: 10% unemployment.
President Bush: Lower than that for eight years.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
11:07 am
Jay–10%. Deal with it.
Jay
November 20th, 2010
11:10 am
Back to pretending to be stupid, I see.
Jay
November 20th, 2010
11:11 am
Really though, if the only way you can defend your position is to pretend to be stupid, maybe, just maybe, you ought to think about changing your position.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
11:11 am
Yeah, I just can’t get past that one little number.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
11:16 am
Believe me, I would LOVE to see this economy turn around, and that’s why I am so strongly opposed to most everything Obama is doing. Growing the government, increasing regulation, expanding entitlements, and debasing the currency are most definitely NOT the route to increasing the living standards of anyone save government employees.
Jay
November 20th, 2010
11:21 am
That’s a legitimate argument, l’il Barry. But when you stoop to defending it with illegitimate statistics, you weaken it significantly.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
11:24 am
You’re going to have to explain why the unemployment rate is not a legitimate statistic. That’s the headline number for a reason. I already get that Obama has single-handedly created zillions of jobs, so there’s no need to repeat that. The fact remains that more people are unemployed on Obama’s watch than there ever were on Bush’s.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
11:28 am
Furthermore, if you blame President Bush for today’s unemployment rate, shouldn’t you also be crediting him for the jobs created to this point? Seems like your side has a little problem with consistency.
Adam
November 20th, 2010
2:52 pm
Adam, I’m just looking at the percentage of folks who don’t have jobs.
That’s not what the number actually represents. It represents the number of people receiving unemployment insurance. The number of people underemployed, or unemployed but not receiving UI, or retiring, etc is not figured in. All that stuff except for maybe the retirees is important.
Aside from that, that “one little number” you have is also incorrect (it’s actually 9.6%), and hasn’t been going on for two years. It DID go above 10% earlier, and has dropped from that. You should also pay attention to actual jobs being created. These jobs aren’t just jobs that have appeared without any takers. They are FILLED jobs. And they are increasing now, as opposed to decreasing consistently under the last administration.
Perhaps people didn’t apply for UI before because they thought under Bush they would surely be denied for trying to “get a handout?”
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
3:29 pm
For those of you questioning the legitimacy of the headline unemployment rate, suck on this, from the BLS:
Category 3 months ended
Mar. June Sept. Dec. Mar.
2009 2009 2009 2009 2010
Levels (in thousands)
Gross job gains 5,783 6,421 6,341 6,662 6,110
Gross job losses 8,524 8,025 7,241 6,890 6,421
Net employment change -2,741 -1,604 -900 -228 -311
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cewbd.nr0.htm
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 20th, 2010
8:21 pm
Why do leftard wingnuts feel so threatened by the Palin women?
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White powder sent to `Dancing With the Stars’
The show has made headlines in recent days because of an outcry by some who believe that political supporters of Sarah Palin may be manipulating the voting system. Bristol Palin has remained on the show, despite consistently landing at the bottom of the judges’ leaderboard.
Adam
November 21st, 2010
12:23 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout: You are actually making the point we want to make for us by putting up actual data. Especially when you look at the progression of net employment change over time. It is the same kind of data in the chart Jay linked you back to.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 21st, 2010
2:28 pm
Yeah, I guess a net loss of “only” 311,000 jobs is an improvement! Hopefully you now understand why the Idiot Messiah’s 10% unemployment rate never gets any better–he’s destroying more jobs than he’s creating.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 21st, 2010
2:38 pm
LLB – I am far from an Obama supporter. But if you were to have been in the construction or service industries during 2001-2010 you would have seen the number of illegal immigrant workers taking the jobs once held by American citizens.
If you were in the IT industry you would have seen the number of H1b visa holders taking jobs once held by American citizens.
If you or the company you work for employ either of these category of workers you should look to yourselves for being part of the problem with these unemployment numbers.
The number of unemployed or underemployed degreed workers in this country is way too high. The corporations are offshoring the middleclass rapidly.
What is the solution? I don’t have an easy answer either, but it cannot be blamed totally on either Bush or Obama.
I do know tax revenues are down partially from the fact that a lot of 1099s NEVER PAID TAXES.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 21st, 2010
6:06 pm
Jay had a very interesting post a while back showing how over the last few decades, job growth has been slower to recover after a recession than in previous years, and it gets worse with each business cycle.
I blame the ever-expanding government. It takes more and more out of the productive part of the economy in taxes, it never stops adding new regulations, and it continues to sink its destructive tentacles into the education system. All this throws sand in the gears of innovation and entrepreneurship, which is where our growth comes from. Government also makes it easy for a large segment of our population to do nothing but collect entitlements paid for by people who work for a living.
The answer is to get government off the backs of our businesses and education system and kick the parasites in the ass.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 21st, 2010
6:20 pm
We will eventually come out of this recession, after all there has never been a recession that we haven’t recovered from. However, it looks like job growth will be even slower than in the past, continuing the trend Jay pointed out. And no wonder–look at what’s happened with regulation and the additional burden of Obamacare that the Idiot Messiah has foisted onto Americans despite their very vocal and clear opposition.
Adam
November 21st, 2010
10:42 pm
LBB, you’ve just made it very clear that your opinion is that government is to blame for all of the problems that have occurred related to the recession, including being the base cause. You are wrong about that so we’ll just have to disagree, apparently.
Innovation and entrepreneurship are stifled primarily by other companies that are already in power creating a market whereby they get to be the top dog. They either actively seek out and destroy competition with their strong arm tactics, or they simply are so big that no one else can get any business. That’s hardly a free market. As for regulation, plenty of regulations were DROPPED under the Bush administration and that has led to more trouble over the past decade than in the previous 5. Obama and congress both haven’t even done much to reverse dropped regulations, and have barely added new ones except for the health care bill. Those regulations have not caused health care costs to go up any more than they would have otherwise, and only a handful of companies opposed the bill or got themselves exempted. The public, believing that the health care bill would force them to pay for something they can’t afford and/or exempt Muslims (both are not true), then expressed in opinion polls a dislike of the bill. Meanwhile the bill passed, and then on September 24 the public’s opinion changed when they realized what the bill actually DOES. Misinformation was far too powerful, and again that misinformation was coming from corporate interests.
It’s not the government that’s causing problems for the people right now, it’s corporations. They don’t have to, but they CHOSE to.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 22nd, 2010
6:09 am
Greedy, profit-seeking corporations are holding down economic growth?
Does that make sense even to you?
Adam
November 22nd, 2010
11:00 am
LBB – Yes. Many are so greedy that they are deciding to NOT hire people even though they have plenty of money to do so. They are not producing as much as a result and if their bottom line is really to keep making profits, they need to both hire and produce. Otherwise where does the money go? You can’t survive, as a business, on “old money.” But many big businesses don’t seem to understand that and would rather “ride it out.” So much for taking risks, huh?
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 22nd, 2010
11:16 am
I don’t believe there are many companies who are forgoing sales. Companies are producing what they can sell. If they’re not hiring, it’s because they don’t need to. It ain’t charity, it’s business, and businesses are going to maximize their profits by increasing the revenue side and controlling the cost side.