Keeping things legal at state Capitol

In January, in an otherwise austere budget, Gov. Sonny Perdue requested $300 million in bonds to fund statewide transportation projects, with most of the money earmarked for projects to ease freight movement.

The biggest priority on the list — and at $121 million, the most expensive — was completion of the Jimmy DeLoach Parkway linking I-95 to the Port of Savannah. Trucking companies have complained for years about the delay caused by traffic jams into and out of the port. Perdue also requested $68 million to dredge the Savannah River to let deep-water vessels access the port.

However, few Georgians knew that in the months just before the governor’s announcement, representatives of his private trucking and grain businesses had been meeting repeatedly with port officials about how to increase the amount of business the Perdue companies do with Georgia ports.

As AJC reporter Dan Chapman documented in a story Sunday, one of those meetings included Perdue himself. According to Perdue’s spokesman, the governor got the same level of attention from port employees in those meetings as any other person seeking to do business with the port.

Somehow, I doubt that.

As one state employee explained in an internal e-mail last summer, Perdue and his employees “are laying the groundwork so that when the Governor leaves office they will be in a position to start up an operation.”

In effect, Perdue publicly pushed the expenditure of hundreds of millions of dollars in state money to improve infrastructure that would be a direct benefit to his private, post-politics business career.

I doubt Perdue saw it that way, of course. But it sure is remarkable how often the public interest — in this case, investments to boost the flow of trucks in and out of Georgia ports — happen to coincide with a politician’s self-interest.

State Rep. Earl Ehrhart, a Cobb County Republican, can also tell you a thing or two about that phenomenon.

Ehrhart, acting as a private consultant, accepted a $40,000 fee from a group interested in boosting taxpayer funding of the arts. As Jim Walls reported in Monday’s AJC, Friends of Arts & Culture hired Ehrhart in 2009 for advice on how to advance their cause at the Capitol.

The arts group and Ehrhart insist there was nothing unethical in that arrangement. The legislator was paid for advice, not for his influence, both parties stress. But at the very least, that’s a tough line to police.

It requires you to believe that Ehrhart, who at the time chaired the powerful House Rules Committee, would have felt no obligation to advance a cause that he had been paid $40,000 to help guide.
It would also require you to believe that the Friends group harbored no secret hope that its $40,000 would make Ehrhart a little friendlier to their proposal.

As anybody who knows Ehrhart will testify, increased public funding of the arts is the kind of program that he would ordinarily dismiss with scorn and a scowl.

Ehrhart now serves as vice chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, a powerful post that gives him great influence over how the state spends billions of dollars. You have to wonder who else might be paying him substantial fees — purely as a consultant, of course — for advice on winning state funding for their cause.

I mean that literally, of course. You have to wonder, because you have no way of actually knowing. Like other members of the Legislature, Ehrhart is not required to disclose the arts group payment or any similar payment because they are deemed fees paid to him in private business that have nothing to do with his role as legislator.

You see, that makes it legal.

UPDATE:

I’ve also been reminded of this Fox 5 report, by Dale Russell, which documents a $100 million DOT project to widen a state highway that just happens to link property owned by Perdue and his trucking company to Interstate 75. The report also documents intense involvement on Perdue’s part in setting the project alignment and its scope.

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USinUK

November 16th, 2010
7:11 am

“Ehrhart, acting as a private consultant, accepted a $40,000 fee from a group interested in boosting taxpayer funding of the arts.”

in other words, he’s actively lobbying while he’s serving as a legislator.

un. flipping. believable.

(and how extraordinarily stupid of the group to hire him!)

Doggone/GA

November 16th, 2010
7:14 am

We need to send him a T-Shirt: “Have bribes? Will Vote”

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
7:17 am

Doggone – I would shorten it to “got cash?”

Doggone/GA

November 16th, 2010
7:20 am

USinUK – yeah, that one too. Your’s can be the T-shirt, mine can be his bumber sticker

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
7:21 am

oh … and I said this downstairs, but it bears repeating …

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11765422

huzzah!

Real Scooter

November 16th, 2010
7:22 am

Politics as usual. Georgia on their mind. NOT!

Good morn USinUK, congrats on first! :grin:

mystified

November 16th, 2010
7:22 am

You can’t trust any of them….

The one thing you will never see is a poor politician. Or even middle class for matter.

TaxPayer

November 16th, 2010
7:23 am

Why am I not surprised. By the way, some of our politician’s links to Georgia banks and real estate, amongst other things, would have also fit right in with this line up. It would make quite the comprehensive who’s who. But this is the type of government that Georgia voters apparently want. I wonder what sort of new excuses they’ll be making up to defend them. Or perhaps they’ll throw Perdue under the back of the bus, now that he’s done his civic duty, just to try and present themselves as a pack with some semblance of decency. Nah. Why bother. After all, they have a mandate.

Mary Elizabeth

November 16th, 2010
7:41 am

From Governor Sonny Perdue’s State of the State address to Georgia’s Legislature, January, 2010:

“We cannot vote ourselves ease and comfort at the expense of our children and grandchildren.”

“There is honor in sacrifice.”

“We have to call upon every Georgian to build rather than consume, . . .to give rather than take.”

Seven billion dollars was cut from public education funds in the eight years that Gov. Perdue held office. I guess who are the “takers” – like who has beauty – is in the eye of the beholder.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 16th, 2010
7:41 am

Well, it’s come to a sorry pass when a godly Republican guvner can’t help his own company out a little while he’s in office. I mean, you can’t count on the legislature to give you a special tax break every year so you can get by. What’s the good of taking a job that don’t pay that good if you can’t push a little money to help your own co. out? And the last thing we need is a former guvner that goes on welfare. I remember about 30 years ago reading about this former guvner in another state that was found driving a taxi in Pittsburgh to make ends meet.

I see this prince over in England is finally doing right by the girl he’s been living with for the past year or so. I was kind of worried they’d start making babys before being married and the public would be stuck with the bills, like we do with Those People here in GA. I wonder if it will be a Holiness or Baptist wedding.

Have a good day everybody. Or at least have sense enough to stay out of the rain.

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
7:45 am

Normal

November 16th, 2010
7:47 am

Keeping things legal at state Capitol? You have a better chance of winning Power Ball…

Good Tuesday morning to all y’all!

Normal

November 16th, 2010
7:48 am

BTW,
Check out Luckovich…lest we really do forget.

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
7:49 am

g’morning Normal :-)

Independent

November 16th, 2010
7:51 am

While you’re bashing, don’t forget King Roy’s amphitheatre in Mableton, you know, the one slated to be closed because it has always run a deficit.

Normal

November 16th, 2010
7:53 am

G’morning USinUK,

Do you think the Prince’s marriage will be the affair Diana’s was?

Normal

November 16th, 2010
7:54 am

Independent,
That was then, this is now… :)

Paul

November 16th, 2010
7:56 am

You cite all this and I’ll bet there are people who defend that behavior, yet say that Olbermann donating a couple grand to candidates outside his district caused him to lose credibility.

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
7:57 am

Normal – considering the fiscal austerity we’re currently experiencing, I don’t know. I’m sure the Palace will be in talks with the Con/Lib government to discuss security expenses and all that.

It’ll definitely be a do – and I’ll bet that most of the country gets the day off – but, given William’s status as the 2nd in line, I don’t know how it could be too modest.

#1 Foxy Lady

November 16th, 2010
7:59 am

They just keeping it real.

You know what I’m saying. Keeping it real for they homies just like at the air port and my homies there. Know what I’m saying.

jewcowboy

November 16th, 2010
8:00 am

Since his track record on ethics has been flawless so far, I’m quite sure Nathan Deal will prove to be above this type of behavior…

(yes, that is a heavy dose of sarcasm for 8am)

jewcowboy

November 16th, 2010
8:03 am

Paul,

“You cite all this and I’ll bet there are people who defend that behavior, yet say that Olbermann donating a couple grand to candidates outside his district caused him to lose credibility.”

Good morning!

“The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity.” ~ Voltaire

Doggone/GA

November 16th, 2010
8:04 am

“Olbermann donating a couple grand to candidates outside his district caused him to lose credibility”

and then in the next breath they’ll turn around and say he has no credibility because he’s a comedian, not a jouralist

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
8:05 am

jcb – I’ll see your Voltaire and raise you an Einstein

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.

jewcowboy

November 16th, 2010
8:05 am

Mary Elizabeth @ 7.41,

:) Sometimes I wonder if politicians realize there are things called recording devices…or more likely they just have no shame.

Doggone/GA

November 16th, 2010
8:05 am

“contemplate the extent of human stupidity.”

I like this one: the difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it’s limits

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
8:06 am

Doggone – comedian?

sportscaster, I can see …

… but comedian?

I must have missed his years doing stand-up.

ROBOCOP

November 16th, 2010
8:06 am

Aren’t some of you blogging also some of the same ones who stood so mightily in support of voting in another thief, Nathan Deal as our next Governor? How absolutely naive do you have to be to dismiss all the warning signs which have been issued by the Perdue group since 2002? He’s spent almost all of his time as Governor being sure that, not only are his business interests protected, but they should flourish — at our expense. And that so-called pimp for a spokesperson, Mr. Brantley, can look you straight in the eye and tell you the Governor has a right to be treated just like any other citizen would be treated if he/she wanted to meet with high-ranking staff at the Georgia Department of Economic Development and the Ports Authority. He actually has the cajones to look you straight in the eye and say that. You see he’ll say that because he knows there’s not a thing anyone can do about it. Do we have an Attorney General who would investigate this? No, because Thurbert Baker’s afraid of his own shadow and probably already has his office packed up to move out. And does anybody believe the new Attorney General, Sam Olens, will take this group on? Of course not.

Yeah, OPerdue has some real nerve — we know he has no ethics — to look Georgia citizens in the face and say,”You are going to continue to pay to help me expand my buisness interests because you are suckers and deserve to be fleeced. Keep voting Republican.” That’s what he really thinks, fools.

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
8:07 am

Doggone – 8:05 – polite golf clap.

Doggone/GA

November 16th, 2010
8:07 am

“I must have missed his years doing stand-up.”

and I wouldn’t know. I don’t actually know him from Adam and have never seen any show he’s been on, except a couple of interviews. Just going by what I’ve seen on other discussion pages.

jewcowboy

November 16th, 2010
8:08 am

Howdy USinUK,

I originally had that quote down, but I decided to go more elitist ;)

What’s for lunch?

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
8:11 am

jcb – funny you should ask … leftovers of my homemade chicken and vegetable soup

http://redskitchendiaries.wordpress.com/2010/11/14/chicken-and-vegetable-soup/

ROBOCOP

November 16th, 2010
8:12 am

Jewcowboy @ 8:05am

They have no shame…no ethcs…no moral… compass. But they do have a perspective on the voters of this state and know them to be fools and suckers. They prepare them for the fleecing by ditracting them with concerns about Obama, or socialism, or Godlessness, etc., etc., etc.

Paul

November 16th, 2010
8:15 am

jewcowboy

Good morning to you, too!

How’s life? Good deals on cars this holiday season…..(vicarious joy and all that, you see – )

jewcowboy

November 16th, 2010
8:16 am

ROBOCOP,

“They prepare them for the fleecing by ditracting them with concerns about Obama, or socialism, or Godlessness, etc., etc., etc.”

Republicans seem to excel at fear mongering.

jewcowboy

November 16th, 2010
8:17 am

USinUK,

Sounds yummy…I just made an asparagus bisque last night…tasty, but it will be better tomorrow.

barking frog

November 16th, 2010
8:18 am

Business as usual.

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
8:19 am

jcb – asparagus? in November?

jewcowboy

November 16th, 2010
8:19 am

Paul,

“How’s life? Good deals on cars this holiday season…..”

Life is good but a little hectic…I think I’ve decided to keep the Audi for a while…though I did take it in for service and watched a video about the new A8…pretty sweet.

The sacrosanct N word.

November 16th, 2010
8:19 am

Bookman describes business as usual: snafu in washington.

jewcowboy

November 16th, 2010
8:21 am

USinUK,

“asparagus? in November?”

Haven’t you heard…we live in a global market…screw that eat local stuff…I want asparagus in November.

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
8:23 am

jcb – :lol: – carbon footprint be damned!

I dunno – I really like seasonal eating – it makes you appreciate when something is fresh

kitty

November 16th, 2010
8:29 am

I expect Deal after Perdue’s example to make Blogo look like a dang angel. That man is going to be sure to feather his nest BIG TIME. Wanna bet we hear nothing about it from the right wing nuts in this idiot state? How stupid can people be? THAT is rhetorical…answer is mighty stupid.

Paul

November 16th, 2010
8:30 am

jewcowboy

I can understand that -

____________________________________________________________________

off topic

Yea! Obama Administration finally decided how and where and when to try the 9-11 conspirators!

Well, okay…. not how….. or where…. but when. After the 2012 elections! Let’s applaud courage! Foresight!! Political will!!! Yeaaaaaa!

“I think this is an example and there are a number of others that the fact that this was a president who for all his talent and all his charm didn’t know enough to know what he didn’t know.” (attribution withheld so people concentrate on the idea, not the author). Same applies to his advisors, too.

JDW

November 16th, 2010
8:31 am

The real question is why is anyone surprised? Purdue has spent his entire term enriching himself and apparently is planning to squeeze every dollar before turning the cash making machine that is a Repugnican in the Georgia Governors Office over to Raw Deal.

Mary Elizabeth

November 16th, 2010
8:32 am

jewcowboy 8:05 a.m.

From Jim Galloway’s Political Insider Column at the AJC, 1/13/10:

“Sonny Perdue has always had a different approach to the annual State of the State address delivered by the governor to the Legislature. But this one is more different than most. It was part sermon and part history lesson, and contained very little budget information.”

I urge readers to “google” Gov. Perdue’s State of the State address in January of this year. The irony of his words is almost unbearable. I think the Republican ideology is so imbedded in this state (because those at the top of the political system benefit financially as they preach “sacrifice” to the general public) that the only way to change what is happening is to enlighten the public. The ones who have, in truth, been forced to make a personal sacrifice – with the future of their very lives – are the school children in Georgia.
Remember, this is the state that has a history of looking after the financial interests of the political and financial elite – at the expense of the underclass – from plantation days to the present. Class structure has been rigid in the Bible Belt for generations. Working class people of all colors and creeds need to see the light and vote – well let’s just say, NOT Republican – until those values are changed within the Republican Party. Exposure is essential to enlightenment.

barking frog

November 16th, 2010
8:40 am

Not defending but,…. If a Governator is a farmer, can
he do nothing for farmers? a trucker, no highways built?
a contractor, no construction rule changes? However,
direct negotiations for a business should not be allowed
while in office. Seems Deal did the same.

TaxPayer

November 16th, 2010
8:48 am

Georgia’s majority voting class apparently enjoys peonage. It’s a simple life. A life void of mental strife. A life of blissful faith that all will be well and as it was meant to be.

AmVet

November 16th, 2010
8:51 am

After 130 years Pray for Rain was the best the Georgia conned could do???

Oh my goodmess.

A laughable joke. Except that he too was dirty. One of the many, many major problem with most elected Republicons – whether in Atlanta or Washington – is that they’ve never served in the US military. But they sure do enjoy playing toy soldier!

They have virtually NO concept of service before self or a code of honor. They are entrenched intellectual lightweights who are imperious and arrogant to a disastrous level. They appeal to the base in their base and they are the very definition of the lowest common denominator.

And their primary motivation is revenge, i.e., the Dems, the Yankees and THOSE PEOPLE! got theirs and now were gonna double down and get double ours.

And now they’ve quadrupled down by electing one of the dirtiest politicians in the entire United States Congress. The man absolutely reeks of corruption and self before service.

A consummate disappointment and it is only going to get much worse for the families of the Uncle Sam-loathing mooches and secessionist wannabes here in the Peach State…

barking frog

November 16th, 2010
8:51 am

TaxPayer

November 16th, 2010
8:48 am
Georgia’s majority voting class apparently enjoys peonage.
—————————————————
I have always said they really would like a King.

Jack

November 16th, 2010
8:52 am

You show me a person that won’t line their pockets when the opportunity presents itself and I’ll show you a saint. And no saints have been elected to public office lately.

jconservative

November 16th, 2010
8:53 am

“Have Influence – Will Sell”

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
8:53 am

“You show me a person that won’t line their pockets when the opportunity presents itself ”

which is why we have ethics rules … you can’t always count on people’s “better angels”

barking frog

November 16th, 2010
8:58 am

You show me a person that won’t line their pockets when the opportunity presents itself and I’ll show you a saint.
———————————————————-
Not necessarily a saint but someone who cannot get elected,
and if elected will only last one term.

carlosgvv

November 16th, 2010
9:02 am

It seems that none of you Democrats or Republicans are the least bit supprised at the latest antics of Gov. Perdue. No doubt this same kind of behavior can be found in all other 49 states. The real question is how much longer the American People will tolerate politics as usual? If this Country ever does have a Socialist or Libertarian Govt. the Democrats and Republicans will have only themselves to blame.

Joey

November 16th, 2010
9:03 am

This makes one long for the days when Democrats were in power. Back then there were no lobbiest at the Capital, no elected person ever received a “consulting” fee for wielding influence, no one ever left a state elected office to start a business that contracted with the state or just went to work for a company that contracted with the state. And certainly no bills were written in smoke-filled back rooms.

Songs that made the Hit Parade. Those were the days?

Mary Elizabeth

November 16th, 2010
9:03 am

barking frog 8:40 a.m.

One has to have followed Gov. Perdue’s history over the years to see a pattern of financial self interest. Citizens have to wonder why he did run for public office. Was it more to serve the common good – to serve the public interest – or to have the power to enrich his own self-interests? Maybe he ran for both reasons. One can never know the deepest motives in the heart of another, in full. But I would hope that our public servants would run for office primarily to serve the public’s interests.

And I do see irony in the Republican ideology of turning public institutions to private enterprise. Government, according to the Preamble in the U.S. Constitution, should “promote the general welfare” of its citizens. One has to question the extreme Republican ideology in Georgia which wants state government – which should be made up of public servants to serve all of Georgia’s citizens – to be smaller and smaller, while politicians who espouse this ideology so strongly enrich their own self-interests so fully.

President Hussein

November 16th, 2010
9:05 am

Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Ben Nelson

Same ole, same ole…..some with “D”, others with “R”

pat

November 16th, 2010
9:08 am

Ugh, I hate perdue. My dog would have been a better governer. Even Barnes was a better governer.

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
9:10 am

Joey – considering the GOP said that they were better than all that (just ask ‘em, they’ll tell you! those Dems are godless, after all), then shouldn’t they, you know, BE better than all that?

Left wing management

November 16th, 2010
9:10 am

I don’t think it’s possible to be named “Earl” in 2010 Georgia (or any other Georgia for that matter) and be anything other than someone who would dismiss public funding for the arts ‘with scorn and scowl’.

Bosch

November 16th, 2010
9:11 am

One of the real problems is that no one takes ethics violations seriously. I mean, really, there are no consequences — look at Rangel yesterday. Look at Deal. If someone on their “team” gets slapped with ethics violations, they scream “Oh, they are just trying to screw with me politically” — and then the go away.

I mean, hell, folks, we just elected as our GOVERNOR one of the most corrupt politicians in Washington.

Paul

November 16th, 2010
9:12 am

2nd off topic

Regarding all the talk about the ‘no compromise’ and ‘just say no’ incoming Republican leadership:

The Bowles/Simpson recommendations for the Deficit Reduction Commission were pronounced dead on arrival by Spkr Pelosi. “Simply Unacceptable” she said. Not “elements we can work with.” Not “it’s a starting point.” Nope. “Simply unacceptable.”

Looks like that ‘no compromise’ position is not limited to Republicans -

barking frog

November 16th, 2010
9:13 am

Mary Elizabeth

November 16th, 2010
9:03 am
——————————————————————
I think you would find the same if you follow the
careers of most politicians. Try a candidacy with
high ideals, if you make it we will all be the better
for it.

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
9:15 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/15/AR2010111505173.html

my favorite read from today … after years of demonizing Islam, Gerson is shocked (SHOCKED!) that Oklahoma “taunt(ed) a religious minority”

echoes of “will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?”

Bosch

November 16th, 2010
9:15 am

Oh, and damn — Michael Vick is a rock star.

Joey

November 16th, 2010
9:16 am

USINUK;
Was I defending someone, anyone?
No.
However, you seem to be of the opinion that Democrats would never stoop to the level of accepting consulting fees or jobs.

Normal

November 16th, 2010
9:17 am

USinUK,

“will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?”

Henry II and Thomas Beckett, correct?

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
9:18 am

Joey – I never said you were defending anyone. Nor did I say that Dems were better than that.

what I DID say was that, if you’re going to run on “we’re so much more ethical / Christian / whatever than they are”, then they should BE those things.

@@

November 16th, 2010
9:20 am

May no government rep ever delve into the business of predatory lending since they, themselves, are in the business.

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
9:21 am

Normal – well done, sir!

(I went to Canterbury back in the Spring and saw where he was a assassinated … gives me the same chills I got when I went to Pevensey castle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pevensey_Castle)

TaxPayer

November 16th, 2010
9:21 am

Looks like that ‘no compromise’ position is not limited to Republicans -

There’s words and there’s actions. Which one speaks the louder to you. Republicans did not just say no — they did nothing (beneficial to we the people) whereas the Democrats actually spent their time working on legislation and reworking it until they got something that they were able to implement. Like their work or not, at least the Dems spent their time in Washington doing something other than campaigning and impeding and whining…

jm

November 16th, 2010
9:21 am

Whaaaaat??????!!!! was the first thing that entered my mind vis-a-vis

“Ehrhart, acting as a private consultant, accepted a $40,000 fee from a group interested in boosting taxpayer funding of the arts.”

Then I concluded, I should somehow not be surprised. Folks vote Libertarian. Or maybe for the “Gomer Pile” party. People too dumb to figure out how to loot government and the taxpayer are less likely to cause damage.

There are days that I wonder if we should just dispense with the state government with the exception of judicial operations and policing.

Bosch

November 16th, 2010
9:24 am

“I went to Canterbury back in the Spring and saw where he was a assassinated …”

I’ve been there too — it’s creepy — isn’t there some tomb of a Black Knight there as well? It’s all a little fuzzy to me as I had visited a pub nearby before going…..

:-)

Mary Elizabeth

November 16th, 2010
9:24 am

barking frog @9:13

One must always examine individual politicians individually before passing judgments.

However, I will say that the Republican ideology has traditionally looked after the interests of the financially elite – i.e. the Bush tax cuts primarily helped the top 2% in our nation. That might have been ok if the middle class had grown, but the middle class has, in fact, shrunken – which has hurt all.

BTW, if that was a compliment to me personally, thanks – but my talents are elsewhere. :-)

Oh, c'mon People

November 16th, 2010
9:24 am

Seriously, if it wasn’t for some government official’s self-interest, NOTHING would ever get done for anyone. Those of you who think that elected or appointed humans will do things out of the goodness of their heart or (ha-ha!) “duty” to the oath they swore have spent too much time dreaming this is Wonderland.

stands for decibels

November 16th, 2010
9:24 am

Paul @ 9.12, Simpson and Bowels are supposed to be part of a commission; they’re not freelancers, and they need to be told to take their little pre-minority-report trial balloons and shove them.

Early and often, and if it takes Pelosi to do it, fine.

jed

November 16th, 2010
9:25 am

Well, this must be what the narrow minded conservative Georgian wants. Enjoy!

retired early

November 16th, 2010
9:25 am

More evidence that total power corrupts. Bush had 6 years of total Republican control, Sonny had 8 years and you enjoyed it so much you voted for another 4 in Ga and counting….and the new GOP Governor came in with a reputation for corruption. Add to that a total Republican sweep of statewide offices including…..keep up here people….Attorney General.
This is a recipe for corruption….but they all had that “R” by their name… right.
So, there was not one Dem in these races who was the better candidate?
I will make a bet that if you were a “fly on the wall” in any of the white protestant churches in the most of Georgia, you would not find a single white church member praising or even defending Obama.
Even if they think he is good president, they would not challenge the other members for fear of being ostracized. This marriage between the GOP and the so called “Moral Majority” has changed politics forever. Now the GOP has an entrenched lobbying effort ongoing through these WASP churches each sunday.
As a result, the old saying “you believe what you want to believe” is surely the best way to describe the GOP these days.
This my friends is just the most CURRENT form of racism in this country. Carefully camouflaged underneath the guise of morality.
As ‘W” said time and time again…”it’s about family values”. No, it is not George, and the rest of you hopelessly GOP’ers, it’s about OUR AMERICA and OUR GEORGIA.
WAKE UP!!!

stands for decibels

November 16th, 2010
9:25 am

Seriously, if it wasn’t for some government official’s self-interest, NOTHING would ever get done for anyone.

True enough, but what Jay’s described is a tad more blatant than I’d prefer.

Call me old fashioned, but I expect dinner before putting out…

jm

November 16th, 2010
9:26 am

Sidebar – Obama is starting to look pretty weak. Domestically and on foreign policy. The Carter path is becoming clearer. Obama, nice guy, not the right guy for President.

md

November 16th, 2010
9:26 am

Politicians have had links to projects for years, and the letter behind the name makes no difference. Go back in history and see who owned tons of land bought out for projects. These guys have inside knowledge…………and use it. Why else do you think they spend millions on a job that pays a fraction thereof??

As for the underlying project, you best be thankful of what he is doing for himself, as the port business is cutthroat. With Charleston to the north and Jacksonville to the south, that is big bucks there in Savannah……..best do all you can to keep from losing it.

williebkind

November 16th, 2010
9:27 am

Mary Elizabeth

November 16th, 2010
9:24 am
“However, I will say that the Republican ideology has traditionally looked after the interests of the financially elite ”

So what is your take on Soros? He is a good guy huh?

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
9:27 am

Bosch – There’s Edward the Black Prince – is that who you mean?

I would have loved to have seen it before the Reformation – I’ll bet it was stunning.

Left wing management

November 16th, 2010
9:27 am

Say, isn’t Sonny Perdue’s middle name ‘Earl’ ?

USinUK

November 16th, 2010
9:29 am

ugh … meetings the rest of the afternoon … have fun, all!

williebkind

November 16th, 2010
9:29 am

If you want to bring down the elite, then vote in a maximum wage salary. You have a minimum why not a maximum. Every ying has a yang.

Scout

November 16th, 2010
9:29 am

jewcowboy from last night !

“Scout,
“Refudiate that remark !”
The ways people choose to “debase” the English language baffle me.”

jewcowboy :

REFUDIATE !!!

HA ! I was fishing and guess who took the bait ?

“But in a release today, the New Oxford American Dictionary defended Palin’s use of the word. “From a strictly lexical interpretation of the different contexts in which Palin has used ‘refudiate,’ we have concluded that neither ‘refute’ nor ‘repudiate’ seems consistently precise, and that ‘refudiate’ more or less stands on its own, suggesting a general sense of ‘reject,’ ” the New Oxford American Dictionary said in a press release.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20101115/pl_yblog_theticket/almost-5-million-people-watched-sarah-palins-alaska

barking frog

November 16th, 2010
9:30 am

Mary Elizabeth

November 16th, 2010
9:24 am
BTW, if that was a compliment to me personally, thanks – but my talents are elsewhere.
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Unfortunately, the answer I got from most worthy prospects
when I was involved in party politics.

Normal

November 16th, 2010
9:30 am

USinUK,
When I was a kid, I saw the movie with Peter Otoole and Richard Burton. LOVED IT!! It peaked my interest in English history.

Bosch

November 16th, 2010
9:30 am

USinUK,

I’m sure that’s who I meant — it’s been about 18 years since I was there and I just remember there being some Black gallant figure buried there. It was all very creepy to me.

But, I did appreciate the fact that I’d been there after reading Pillars of Earth and even though it was fictional, it was cool thinking….”yeah, I’ve been there”

williebkind

November 16th, 2010
9:31 am

stands for decibels

November 16th, 2010
9:25 am
QUID PRO QUO eh?

ATF

November 16th, 2010
9:32 am

Is there anything underhanded Purdue has done that Deal hasn’t also done?

USinUK – you have it exactly right. Evidently, here in Georgia, it is okay for someone to be a paid lobbyist and a serving member of the legislature.

md

November 16th, 2010
9:32 am

“The Bowles/Simpson recommendations for the Deficit Reduction Commission”

From the looks of it, they spent zero time looking at the consequences of their ideas.

For instance, killing the home mortgage credit……..maybe down the road in a good economy, but no way right now. The housing industry took the biggest hit……and may go down even further…..and they want to kick it while it is down……

There will be no economic recovery until we get housing on it’s feet…..so says the historical data.

Paul

November 16th, 2010
9:32 am

USinUK 9:15

Okay, I’ll bite.

Gershon looks at it all thru the prism of ‘taunting a religious minority.’ He sees it all in terms of willful harassment, of mocking, of a display of contempt.

I don’t think the voters saw it that way.

Gershon’s willingness to default to the worst possible explanation is revealed in “So is sharia law compatible with democracy? In the totalitarian version of the Taliban, it cannot be reconciled with pluralism. But if sharia is interpreted ”

A couple of possibilities, he states “well, IF this” then goes on with that premise to ascribe to the voters motives I’m not sure are supported by any data.

But if fits the Washinton Post’s mindset -

jm

November 16th, 2010
9:34 am

Someone help me on this. WHERE IS THE FBI? Asleep at the switch? WTF

md

November 16th, 2010
9:34 am

“whereas the Democrats actually spent their time working on legislation and reworking it until they got something that they were able to implement.”

Uh…..yeh…..and the last election said the folks didn’t much care for it either………..

A bit like Charles Manson working up another plan…………….

Bosch

November 16th, 2010
9:35 am

All cathedrals are kind of creepy though if you really think about it.

And damn, did anyone besides me watch Monday Night Football last night? Michael Vick was awesome.

williebkind

November 16th, 2010
9:36 am

It is going to be a fun two years. I hope my English improves so I can understand the whining of the progressive liberals. Just think, my vocabulary will increase as the whinning increases. Gotta love it.

LizBeth

November 16th, 2010
9:36 am

Republicans LOVE Georgia! I wonder why?!?